/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>56644147
the REALEAST HFTboiz trade on DREAMS

>>56644147
What’s the best low cost/free trading bot I should use for swing trading shitcoins?

>>56644147
waste of time, will vastly underperform brainlets who just DCA and shit their bags on the top

>>56644147
What are the 3-5 most important features to use in a model? Is there money to be made for non-whale individuals?

>>56644186
>for free
You should definitely try jannybot

>>56644202
>randomly skeptic nigger
ok nigger

>>56644235
Yes, there's money to be made

Low effort shill thread

>>56644314
This thread is not about algorand or other shitcoins, imbecile

>>56644258
if I'm a nigger, you're a doublenigger, nigger

>>56644348
you have to be 81 to post here

>>56644147
Glad to find this thread, we opened a tg to discuss this shit
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>>56644258
So you can't answer? The features anon?

What's your risk management and entry signal like

>>56644147
What's the best (free) place to get started with the basic algorithms e.g. MA, bull/bear detection, etc. I guess they'll all be pretty shit compared to what is hoarded by the jews, but there will probably be some fundamental principles that these are based on, or are widely used as a starting point.

>>56644688
mql5.com forum?

>>56644147
1. What does a Russian electronics diagram have to do with this?
2. Why didn't you answer the question about "the most useful features in a model"?
3. What tool do you use?

P.S. for all the anons attracted to this, ask yourself if you only think it's a good idea because it sounds like cool words to you like "derivatives" and you think there is some magic in it, and it's not another failed strategy taught to every first year finance student. (Well, actually it's not, because the term "algorithmic trading" is hopelessly generic).

>>56644353
Whats your strategy

>>56644722
Sorry, here I am.
>1. What does a Russian electronics diagram have to do with this?
Oh c'mon
>2. Why didn't you answer the question about "the most useful features in a model"?
The question isn't very clear, I would say "reliability" anyway.
>3. What tool do you use?
Do you mean: what language do I use to code my trading systems? I use mostly Mql and Easylanguage.
However, there are many ways to automate your strategies

>>56644787
> I use mostly Mql and Easylanguage.
What the hell is that shit? Why don't you use a real language? Serious question.

> However, there are many ways to automate your strategies
Right, and even more ways to burn money on fees.

Anyway, say something useful / interesting.

>>56644807
Define a real language, lol.

>Right, and even more ways to burn money on fees.
It's clear obvious that you don't know what you're talking about and you probably never traded

>Anyway, say something useful / interesting.
Everything in algotrading is interesting, just ask.

>>56644829
> Define a real language, lol.
C#, Java, or at least Python.

>It's clear obvious that you don't know what you're talking about and you probably never traded
To the contrary, it's obvious that *you* never traded, since you are trying to hide behind abstractions because most people don't understand the combination of programming 101 and technical indicators (none of which work) 101.

I will do you one better - I did HFT back when triangle arbitrage was possible across exchanges before crypto was an efficient market. It fell down on fees for transferring crypto between different exchanges and API processing times were inconsistent.

Now you tell a real story.

>>56644871
based. Anyone who has developed a functional algo wouldn't be making threads to "discuss" it and potentially reveal what little edge it has. This is so far a thinly veiled midwit "intellectual superiority" thread, although I've seen very little effort put forth to "prove" the case.

>>56644871
>C#, Java, or at least Python.
And how are these languages going to be more real and better than the ones I named, which are widely used by traders worldwide?

>and technical indicators (none of which work) 101.
It's blatant obvious that you don't know what you're talking about, typical passive aggressive plebbitor fuck

>I will do you one better - I did HFT back when triangle arbitrage was possible
Who the fuck cares about HFT, lmao

>Now you tell a real story.
My strategies are up 58% this year, if you can't figure out why or how, you're just a nigger.

>based. Anyone who has developed a functional algo wouldn't be making threads to "discuss" it and potentially reveal what little edge it has.
I don't need to prove you anything, you underage plebbitor #2, if you "don't belieb me" I simply DGAF, there are no downvotes here, no "opinions" to be made or influence and above all, no mods.
Israel is not a legitimate state and by posting here you already denounced the talmud.

>>56644997
>there are no downvotes here, no "opinions" to be made or influence and above all, no mods.

1. Mad.
2. Know a lot about reddit. Anything else you want to tell us our underage b& friend?

>>56644997
>My strategies are up 58% this year
so less than simply buying and holding BTC? noted

>>56645046
Cope

>>56645055
Mm and please tell me how buying and holding BTC worked in 2022

Thoughts on power perps / everlasting options?

https://www.paradigm.xyz/2021/08/power-perpetuals#eth3-power-perp

To all anons who want to dabble into algo trading, get one a couple of python courses and udemy algo trading courses.
Write your bot with several strategies, it is fairly easy in python. See it fail spectacularly and start learning finance/stock market theory, statistics, and even more strategies.

It's simple, but you will have to put in some work. You can write a simple bot using SMA+Bollinger in ~100 lines in python.

Take the coding pill tradesisters

>>56645136
>You can write a simple bot using SMA+Bollinger in ~100 lines in python
it takes maybe 8 lines to write this bot in easylanguage, lol

Instead of building one, I did my research and found a company that builds algos you run yourself on your own platform. No sketchy crypto shit, you hold your money in a real brokerage account. Pic related, made $7k on Thursday.

>>56645155
Of course you can buy algos, but you never know for sure about their performances

>>56645136
Do you just use coinbase/binance apis to make trades? Seems like it would be fairly difficult to integrate DEXes. Also taxes seem nightmarish if you don’t do think about how to log trades well before hand.

>>56645172
I'm posting it right here bro. It only trades futures. I've done annoyingly exhaustive research to find this shit and make sure it was real.

>>56645204
I prefer to make my own algos.
If you found a good one, good for you

>>56645151
Kek, im not using some bs proprietary language not knowing what the fuck is going under the hood. It does not even seem to have any sort of statistical analysis functions.

Most HFT traders use python for prototyping and c++ for actual implementation.

>>56645221
Yes, check the assembly part too, you never know what could hide under a fucking bollinger bands indicator, lol

>>56645179
I mostly trade forex and options.
Taxes are not that bad because my bots records every trade and corresponding data. I just send the csv with that data to my accountant and that's it.

>>56645221
You only use C++ over C# if you are working for a major bank which is actually moving billions and paid for a server building that's directly wired to an exchange. Otherwise, the performance doesn't matter, even with dogshit Python.

>>56645239
From what I've seen C++ is fairly common even in small firms. Heck, my colleague writes compute-heavy libs in FORTRAN for calculations and ML parts of bots.

>>56645282
I can't imagine that to be true - C++ USED to be used for "real" HFT when you needed performance, but now if you need ML libraries, you use Python, as much of a worthless piece of shit language as it is.

>>56645237
how do you validate your bots?

>>56645239
Stop jerking about code, monkey, no one cares, and no, you never coded any bot

>>56645393
Still mad about being outed?

>>56645417
You're just trying to derail the thread because you're a seething fuck, there's nothing valuable you can give and probably nothing valuable you can ask.
Consider kys

>>56645429
We are still eagerly awaiting your valuable revelations.

>>56645451
>We
Always when I meet a plebbitor he hides in some "we" because he's too much of a pussy to hold a conversation on herself and just say "I'm waiting for your valuable revelations"

>>56645474
Right. Say something useful.

>>56645499
Say please, nigger

>>56644871
>programming 101 and technical indicators (none of which work) 101
The combination of 2 moving averages can help identify ranging markets, in those specific moments you can execture strategies that profit from crabbing, such as buying the lows and selling the highs.
Now it's clear obvious you never coded any fucking bot and you don't know how to use even just a fucking moving average, you larping c++ fortran cobol visual basic javascript tranny.

>>56644147
Picrel
>level sensor
>temperature sensor
>blocker
>water intake valve
Anon, what are you bulding again lmao?

has anyone tried HFT on hydranet DEX yet?

>>56645758
here's why I love biz

>>56644871
>technical indicators (none of which work) 101.
Lmao do you know how much money I’ve made just from randomly buying bullish divergences with same basic dynamic support levels? There’s something to this shit you just have to not be a fucking retard and call the flukes/fakeouts. Something you don’t seem able to do.

>>56644147
What is your annualized PnL for the past three years?

>>56644147

What an edgy slavnigger we have got here lmao.

So, Ivan, you did some scripting on tradestation and came here to brag?

Just fucking fuck off back to your fucking ghetto, you fucking low iq russian scum lmao.

>>56647343
Lol, thank you for your contribution, anyway I wasn't bragging about anything, just btfo'd some plebbitor for the sake of

>>56646210
3 years ago I was still testing my systems, I've put them live 1 year and half ago.

>>56645233
For me, its coding bots in machine language for open source computational devices.

>>56648946
yes, go install doom on that electronic nutcracker, linux tranny

>>56644997
Calling him a redditor instead of addressing the question of "why post this and risk losing what little functional edge it may have" only confirms you have no idea what you're talking about and are just here to stroke an underdeveloped ego.
He wasn't downvoting you, he was pointing out one of the many examples of cognitive dissonance in your thread and posts. You are transparent. You are a midwit.

>>56644787
>I use mostly Mql and Easylanguage.
This did give me a hearty kek tho - so thanks for that, at least.

>>56645136
Do you know if there platforms with APIs is there (if any) for trading stocks? Or like everyone is trading shitcoints?

>>56645136
>SMA+Bollinger
So Bollinger is this one: https://taapi.io/indicators/bollinger-bands/ - right?
What is SMA?

>>56649064
Can't imagine being so brainwashed that I'd run a literal botnet for a 2 trillion dollar company.

why do you fags act like HFT is a thing for some hobbyist?

>>56644997
>>based. Anyone who has developed a functional algo wouldn't be making threads to "discuss" it and potentially reveal what little edge it has.
>I don't need to prove you anything, you underage plebbitor #2, if you "don't belieb me" I simply DGAF, there are no downvotes here, no "opinions" to be made or influence and above all, no mods.
Soooo like if there is no downvotes, why you even made this thread?

>>56649821
If you're autistic enough anything can be a hobby

>>56644202
/thread

>>56649717
>Issuing an articolate defense of another plebbitor using the same plebbitor techniques
>insisting on alleged psychological problems of the interlocutor because you are a fat neckbeard and you can't even see your dick when you piss
Ok plebbitor

>This did give me a hearty kek tho - so thanks for that, at least.
>Huuurrrrr durrrr you have to use NECESSARILY top notch kind of languages (aka the coolest one according to r/coding) to code a simple fucking bot executing market ordeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrs

God, coding threads work like a magnet

>>56649825
Just wanted to discuss algotrading and share useful stuff, IF neckbeards didn't takeover the thread with their useless opinions

>>56649923
>share useful stuff
you didn't share any tho

>>56649950
declare neckbeards;
IF neckbeards =\= take over the thread with their useless opinions THEN
OUTPUT share useful stuff
ELSE
OUTPUT troll the neckbeards and BTFO them

>>56649923
I didn't say anything about top notch languages; I was laughing at "EasyLanguage".
You haven't posted anything worth discussing, you're just in here masturbating in front of everybody and nobody's impressed or interested. We're mostly here to laugh at you.

>>56650022
Lol, you keep r/kwetching so hard plebbitor, this is a fucking anon msgboard, there's NO COMMUNITY. It's just you and me you pussy, there's no one else.
Thinking that you can impress me or someone else by putting this "US VS YOU" argument makes me kek hard.
You must be a miserable midwit without a fucking personality to even think you can sound bolder by saying that.

>>56649997
>ELSE
else should be "close tab" tho

>>56650166
touchè

>>56645136
ofc some tranny trying to rope more people in their hopeless schemes

>>56648661
>3 years ago I was still testing my systems, I've put them live 1 year and half ago.
but that's not what he asked retard

>>56651079
I can't answer "for the past 3 years" if my system is working since 1 year and a half, you mullet

I’ll give it a go, if only because I need something not proprietary to put on my portfolio.

What’s the best exchange with the least costly data? I tried to build a historical trend analysis bot for stocks only to find Nasdaq anally rapes you on the data feed prices, and that pretty much killed my enthusiasm.

>>56649821
It’s absolutely for hobbyists, the amount of renaissance wannabe style tech nerds with no actual understanding of financial concepts I’ve seen come and go from this board would make your nuts tighten.

>>56651192
try dukascopy, thank me later by coming back here and saying that coding monkey neckbeards are useless pieces of shit, belong to plebbit and should at least be sterilized for the sake of society

>>56651212
That looks useless to me as I would still have to report beneficial ownership. I’m looking more for crypto with cheap data and low KYC.

>>56644147
how do you choose your in sample data to train your model and your out of sample to validate it?

>>56644147
algorithmitc trading is just a fancy way of saying stoch rsi trading

Where I can write algos in python and paper trade them? Crypto or stocks

>>56651343
look better

>>56651368
Finally someone who speaks my language, TY
I use the same pair at different timeframes and then I check similar pairs