/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>57267328
Matt Levine answered this already

I thought there was no internet while on a flight

I’m calling it now. We’ve had terms like “mostly peaceful” protests, “safe and effective” shots, and “transitory” inflation. This year the lie they repeat until it memes itself into oblivion will be “minor economic slowdown” or “minor recession.”

I'd say no. Insider is not somebody with knowledge of a thing because he appears to be at a specific place that yields him information that could be used on the stockmarket, but somebody who has a specific role in a company, organisation or government and uses that position to gain knowledge prior to everybody else and then uses that knowledge to acquire financial gains out of it.

So, the pilot maybe would be an insider or the airport tower that is being told the door flew off or the CEO of Boeing etc., but not a passenger that has no obligations or duties.

Exceptions might be if you gain knowledge by somebody who is in such a position of power/knowledge and LEAKS the information to the public. But this is not a leak in that sense, but just a "happening" an occurence, no exploitation of a position of power/knowledge of a person that is trusted to not leak information.

>>57267358
>no internet while on a flight
They did stop flying.

>>57267360
>transitory
>just jumped to 4% in April 2021 and took over a year for hikes to start with 25 bps hikes to counter +100% inflation of goaltarget.

>>57267328
The answer to the question is no. Not by any definition of insider trading. Passenger in a plane is a customer of the business. Customer has a bad experience they are absolutely within their right to use that experience as thesis for bearish bets against the company.
>>57267358
can you not do some satellite thing they charge extra for or is not that how that works? I don't know I haven't been on a plane in 12 years and I will never set foot on a plane ever again.

>>57267360
I was conflicted between posting the picture that was to prove my point or picrel that would assist proving your assumption.

>>57267378
Didn't they also change the measurement a couple times during that time frame?

>>57267360
Close your eyes, everything will be fine.

So if I buy SPY during a major bear market how bad do I lose money? This chart can’t just keep going up forever, right?

>>57267360
>minor economic slowdown
>technical recession

>>57267394
Don't know. I heard it was changed once. And even now for this year something is being changed in CPI in regards to used cars:

>With the release of January 2024 data, the CPI program plans to update the mileage adjustment applied
to each sampled used vehicle in the used cars and trucks index. Historically, a single, stable mileage
amount estimated for a given make and model was applied to each sampled vehicle and was unchanged
throughout the year. The assigned mileage amount will now be replaced with a monthly average mileage
amount based on the age of the sampled used vehicle, and not the make and model. Each estimated price
for a sampled used vehicle will still be adjusted for depreciation.

In addition, seasonally adjusted indexes as well as calculated seasonal adjustment factors will take
the new methodology into account beginning in 2024. Revised seasonal factors are available at
www.bls.gov/cpi/seasonal-adjustment/home.htm.

Source: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/cpi_12122023.htm

The FBI is performing targeted political assassinations of Americans by poisoning them with carcinogenics. What stocks do I buy to profit from this?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mdslA08uc_4
Yo, now ain't that the pot callin' the kettle black?
I used to peddle PUTS, you never sold CALLS so stop frontin'
I pushed the BUY button, you cold panicked
Use tools to fix ya LONGS & SHORTS like a mechanic
Dramatic, dynamic, and underhanded
You BUY the shit that I SHORT, for so long I can't stand it
The MARGIN bandit, erupt like volcano
Shittin' lava, right on they armor, you blood farmer
What Wha? Khazer, gato, nuto cuatro
Imbalance the scales of slaughter, BOBO discipline
Open ya SHORTS, spit on the JANNY, pour the Henny in
Sweetpea, fuck with Popeye, get smoked properly
It ain't even got to be, handled on record
Just me and you, one on one, I'm only one

>>57267412
If you DCA'd every monthly bottom of the dotcom crash it'd take a bit over 2 years to break even. Unless we go full Nikkei DCA'ing the index will always be a viable strat.

>>57267442
I stack gold and guns as well; feels good investing on either side of the future.

>>57267440
Peddle is such a stupid word.

>>57267442
>>57267453
Wait oops it was 4 years. The GFC was 2 years. Dotcom was not a good time..

>>57267328
It would be so based if someone on the plane done that

>>57267480
I’m fearful of the fate that boomers have pumped the market just enough to cash out, die, and leave us the bags. Is it truly a safe bet to DCA into SPY and VOO right now or should I just stick to gold?

>>57267534
If you're unsure short term about a possible market crash just buy some SGOV, it's pretty much the optimal time given interest rates.

i have a few PINS puts, 1/19 exp. at $36 strike, should i just chill out and stop worrying?
(not looking for advice, just someone call me a paper-hand bitch)

>>57267534
The suicide increases across the globe should be more than enough to tell you what's happening.

>>57267412
i wouldn't think of it as "how bad do i lose". more like: "what are the odds that if i buy now, i will be able to sell for a profit afterward?" just look at the current level and compare to the previous high of 2022. it might re-test that high and break above it. it might test it and fall lower. what exactly would propel it higher, just the expectation that money is rapidly losing value so you might as well park it in the world's biggest companies?

i don't get this FOMO urge to buy *after* shit has been on such a tear, or the opposite of fearing to buy when something has flat-lined at a bottom.

buying SPY at the start of 2023 was clearly the smart move. buying it now in mid Jan of 2024? i personally wouldn't take that chance. risk vs reward.

>>57267597
>i don't get this FOMO urge to buy *after* shit has been on such a tear
what's the alternative when the "tear" has been going on for longer than four decades already?

>>57267386
Thanks grocery bills are still about $400. thanks biden!

>>57267613
If you're looking for deflation you gotta go to CHYNA. In America deflation is BAD.

>>57267605
Do you like the companies on the SPY even if they all went to zero?

>>57267438
Anon, people in their 50's die. It happens.

>>57267605
That’s what I’m struggling with. What’s the point of these classic investment strategies if we’re just buying the tops. Are bonds and guaranteed 4-5% the only truly safe option?

>>57267605
buy dips

>>57267605
picking individual stocks with more upside potential instead of sp500 broad SPY etf which is composed of companies everyone already knows about. these individual ones don't have to be completely unknown and ultra small co. either, they can be just overly sold ones, or ones that are still in the middle of expansion. let me give you two examples:

1. lyft - decent competitor to uber, lyft could be a buyout target and speculation that it would get bought out by ford had previously spiked its value. had i stuck to my own gut instinct and simply longed the stock i would be up around 30-50% by now. both uber and lyft dipped a little after some laws regarding worker pay but it wasn't as huge a drop that was made out to be by press.

2. RDFN, provides a much better UI than zillow, clean info display, if i had followed through and kept track of it i would've made 100% on it last year.

>>57267597
Anon, you're a rare smart anon.
I sometimes do believe the line that we sometimes hear on this general, that the mumoids are just malevolent little cunts who are trying to rope in to buy the top.
There's no logic in buying at these numbers, that is rational.

>>57267605
>commit to spending some time finding and looking at good companies that people are afraid of but have good growth potential (actual amount of time depends on your schedule, life, responsibilities)

just look at btc, everyone won't shut the fuck up about it when it's hitting higher and higher prices, but when it was flat-lining at $3000 it was considered dead. same goes when it was at $15K more recently and then now you see how it came back. when sentiment is overly positive about something, and you look at the chart and it's been on an uptrend for 6-12 months, you probably missed out, or you're buying at a bad entry. if the masses treat something like it's a pariah it's probably a good time to buy but you will still need patience to wait it out. most people (including me) suck at investing because they lack patience, they want easy answers (just buy the hot trendy thing now!!!), and they were too slow to get in on the trend early.

>UK Industrial Production (M/M) Nov: 0.3% (exp 0.3%; R prev -1.3%)
>- Industrial Production (Y/Y) Nov: -0.1% (exp 0.7%; R prev -0.5%)

What is that comical bullshit? MOM comes as expected but YOY is way below? How?

BUDDY LOOK AT SHANGAI FREIGHT INDEX

>>57267605
Was the global birthrate trending up for those 4 decades?
Did the US have 34T of debt for those 4 decades?
Did the 10y3m yield curve invert for 2 years straight in those 4 decades (actually that one may be true lol)?
Did everything that happened for those 4 decades also happen in the preceding 4 decades?
As far as I remember we had 2 world wars and the introduction of a neokeynesian monetary system for the first fucking time in history in those 4 preceding decades. And these cycles even when using a fiat currency which has some form of gold backing don't ever last forever.
I'm not saying the dollar is about to collapse, I know it probably has room to run. I'm not that much of a doomer.
But I'm also tired of the "it didn't rain yesterday, it won't rain today" logic of you brainlets.

>>57267661
yeah, it's especially hard because there are so many users, all who you don't know. they might be genuine, they might be malevolent. they might be malevolent *and* right that the uptrend will continue. it's hard to say. that's why you always gotta do your own DD, zoom out the charts, look closely, really think hard. it's not rocket science, but you are doing battle with yourself, there is a lot of psychology going on, and a need to make money so you can have nice things faster. i get it.

just look at any chart around that 2021 top, you will see how if you were caught up in the hype it would be hard to see how the top was in or if it would keep going. so yes, bobos will have 20/20 hindsight bias now and say "holy shit everything was clearly overvalued" while mumus would say "there's no way you could have known that, at the time".

Have the Houthis killed anybody yet on those ships?
Cause the UK and US seem to be willing to kill for

>Rishi Sunak saying the UK will “always stand up for freedom of navigation and the free flow of trade”.

>>57267695
>malevolent
That putsrnotdawae retard was openly evil. There are tons like him. And then there are just the top-buying mouth breathers.
I'm at the point where I can tell who is who here even when they don't have a name on. I think many of us can.
That's not to say there aren't malevolent tourists.
With the regulars, even baggot being a kike generally isn't malevolent and I do watch that bastard like a hawk in case he tries shit.

But yeah you have the right mindset to make it, patience and a dose of cunning.

>>57267695
It's all emperors new clothes at this point. It doesn't matter if everything looks massively overvalued and expensive. If the driving forces say they aren't then they aren't. Until that swap happens we're all forced to play along or lose out bigly. At least, until the music stops and we realize we weren't the first ones out.

I denounce the market

>>57267722
good goiym merchant

It's funny how the only thing they can say is defending theit GDP lol

WBD is in such a fascinating state right now, like a BPD girl off her meds
Unironically considering going long on it and buying some LEAPs for next year

>>57267741
>It's all emperors new clothes at this point.
Very well said

>>57267728
yep i try not to get entangled with any particular anon or namefag. i just post stuff to test the waters. i posted about PINS and SNAP early in Dec 2023 to see what others thought about those hitting new 52wk highs. had i bought puts i would've probably lost since they kept inching up higher. now they finally pulled back on Jan 3rd but are still inching up.

>>57267741
everything looks and feels overvalued but yeah like you said they can just keep pumping the bubble higher since it's a fake and gay market driven entirely by fed actions and company buybacks. in previous thread i mentioned that META is now about to re-test it's 2022 high. the company has not made any new progress since 2022, in fact it tried to launch something (threads.net) that utterly failed. we hear about FB and instagram losing market share to tiktok, how tiktok is the hip young platform, so why is META stock still near all-time highs? nothing makes sense anymore and trying to be rational in an irrational market has not worked out well for me.

>>57267789
Old kike media is dying, let it die quietly, and ideally put a few bullets in it's skull kek

>>57267789
>25bn mkt cap
>not a single hit movie or show

What do you guys think of the housing market in 5-10 years when boomers start croaking?

The naive consensus is that the supply will increase and answer the prayers for affordable housing.

But reasons housing market will get worse include: boomers will sell to retire into overpriced retirement homes, (then demolished into apartments) first time buyers don't like places where the boomer house sits (retirement communities), and interest rates will not drop.

Im a brainlet but it seems America is poised to become a generation of rentoids.

>>57267799
Just so you know anon, I've been calling for the real crash to start playing out in March this year. I've been calling that month for a while, go and check the archives for Merch 2024 if you want. I should have said the ides of March just to be a meme lord kek.
But I think it's March for various reasons, mainly to do with how the real recessionary impulse began 2 years prior to that (look at the 10y2y curve and when it began sliding down).

>>57267823
Apparently 61% institutional ownership too, so they're gonna keep this zombie company alive for a good few years
Only reason it dumped in December is because Zaslav the Retard mentioned potentially merging with Paramount, another massively in debt company
But this is America, debt is just a number these days

>>57267826
You're right to hypothesize a crash is coming.
Buddy look at global birthrates computer. Look at China computer.

>>57267839
I didn't hypothesize shit. I'm erring on the side of no crash.

Birthrates don't matter anymore because we can just infinitely import Pacos and Juans.

>>57267839
>>57267832
not disagreeing with you but why do you think it will be march *again*?
it was march in 2020, and i believe it was march back in 2009-2010 as well. can it really just be march all the time, due to earnings cycle?

if i recall, in 2023 the pullback started after 1st week of Feb, that was the local top. then it dipped even more in May. i don't remember what happened around March, but SVB, silvergate and regional bank crisis definitely happened sometime around March-May, would have to check dates again.

bros...rate hiking again?

>>57267852
Not because of earnings specifically, no but because of how long a recessionary cycle takes to play out. Historically it's been between 12-18 months. Also because I was looking at the rate the reverse repo facility is being drained. Also looked at how oil can't get out of a slump for months now.
I actually said March to be conservative. I thought it might start a lot earlier and get really underway in March.
I'm talking about the yield curve sliding down in March 2021 btw. But there are a ton of other factors which make Q1 2024 a good bet.

Yields...

How do people with more than 10k in school debt just not move out of the country?

>>57267869
just checked and looks like MRO is up in AH. oil might actually start pumping higher from here due to perceived risks in mideast/iran/gulf. nothing like a little war to get us out of a "slump".

>>57267904
Anon not trying to bash you as I can see you're a bit new but you want to look at WTI price rather than anything else.

>>57267907
no prob. MRO just popped in my mind when you mentioned oil. but yeah WTI looks like it's been crabbing but now about to breakout higher, that's what it looks like to me.
https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/future/cl.1

i'm not new or old, definitely right in the middle intermediate. i would like to be at the level of paul tudor jones by my 50s. but yeah i don't trade commodities or forex.

Anyone here still holding MONI? Big news next week.

>>57267921
thoughts on paul tudor jones' musical daughter?
https://youtu.be/VqlwKBrrMXk

>>57267856
>rate hiking again?
that's not what the article says
is this irony or are you really that stupid that you'd misunderstand something that simple?

>>57267933
Moon mission?

>>57267358
>>57267365
>>57267380
Every fucking air line has wifi on board yes sometimes you pay extra for it sometimes it's free.

>Argentina inflation surpassing Venezuela

Happy new year

>>57267960
No doubt. It's up 80% so far this week in anticipation.I think it's gonna hit $1.00 shortly after next weeks news so that's a 50X. Do you consider 50X a moon mission desu? Get some today at the open.

t. penny jesus

>>57267921
This is the 1M chart for WTI, that's a downward slide, not a crab.
But yeah I don't trade commodities at all, not until we see oil really break. I made a nice stack on it a couple years back but until it breaks under 65 it's not really worth it.

>>57267947
She seems nice and homely, would plap. She can't sing for shit though.

I want to sell everything and give up. I can’t active trade, done nothing but lose and sell early or not selling soon enough consistently. It’s over

Every trade is "insider" trading, that's why it's a dumb law

I sold all my Oil

>>57267991
i see. upon quick glance it looks like "resistance becomes support" to me, but i'm not a pro at technical analysis. that was just a mantra i picked up while trying to learn it. looks like it's coiled and ready to pump, now with "houthi" and potential iran war news as the catalyst. anyway glad we had this discussion as i would like to focus more on energy, and less on frivolous bs like social, travel, casinos.

>>57267998
You have just been saved and blessed fren. Buy MONI at the open tomorrow. Hold it for 30 days. God loves you.

>>57267534
We're no where near the retardation of the dot com bubble

>lower CPI bullish
>higher CPI bullish
Yeah, this will end in a crash

>>57267998
I had the same problem as you. the secret to wining is killing greed. use a stop loss moved quickly at break even, take partial profits to get like 100 euros/day, and let a runner run

>>57267826
Corps will buy up supply, the future is large corporate landlords

>>57268024
Listen the stock market is a big party, but their aren't any clocks on the wall. Slowly but surely people slowly go home. You don't want to leave early and miss out on Cindy flashing her tits, but stay too late and the sun is coming up and your stuck babysitting John as he pukes and crys about his ex wife

>>57268024
Euros are just retarded and can be safely ignored. They bought the top and are now trying to buy the crash.

>>57268066
you are the retard for talking about a crash, look at the chart nigger, you are just a miserable permabobo faggot

>>57268074
I literally bought the pump before CPI retard. How much have you made on that? I have 40% profit in hand so far.

>A thread with the OP picture a reddit post
We've all said in the past that /smg/ has hit all time lows, but I can officially say, it's hit an all time low.

>>57268083
I probably made as much as you but I'm not selling for a hot (fake) CPI report that's all services (greedflation). Because the next cpi report will not be hot. Simple as.

Also I was told LLAP would print for me and I bought and am immediately down 14%. I expect a full refund from the pajeet that shilled it here.

>>57268095
>(fake)
Lmao. Have fun bitching and crying on the way down. Thanks for money. Your only bulltard cope left is Powell cucks out and America dies by Weimar as Jap stocks take over.

>oil pumping
>bitcoin miners dumping
Feels good

>>57268135
Damn it's been awhile since I've seen a
Boris Grishenko post.

>Got a new gaming PC with a 4090 and 4k 165hz monitor

>Forgot to buy a new controller, preferrably playstation
>Go on Amazon
>PS5 controller black in stock
>Only $70
>There's a fucking payment plan with Affirm

Bros how shit is our economy that retards are taking out BNPL bullshit on fuckin game controllers?

>>57268066
How could you tell he is a euro?

>>57268083
>40%
of what?

>>57268153
Because mutts cry about the premarket while europeons trade at these hours.

>>57268163
Of my investment in turbo certs.

>>57268164
??? You faggots pumped this shit after CPI yourself. It's not the EU that slurped the dip in US trading yesterday

>>57268151
>he doesn't know that Dominoes does monthly payments for pizza now

>>57268164
Im european and I solely trade in the US market, aside from a handful of companies there is no way i would leave my money with these babbling retards

>>57268086
We hit an all-time low when we stopped banning avatarfags too

>>57268178
Don't get fucking cute with me chud.

on firefox i get tcaptcha is not defined wtf

>>57268175
>Im european and I solely trade in the US market,
Same. My country is a banana republic with joke for a stock market.

>>57268172
are you fuckin serious? no way...

>>57268372
Kek yeah he's speaking the truth.

>tech sector valuation depends on this diarrhea
Can't wait to slurp tech in 2025.

>>57268378
one of those is how much in the US? I could buy one fpr an average of 8 euros, assuming it must be something like 10-20 dollars then it would be a decent deal if you ate one each week

>>57268341
pt?

don't forget to buy calls on China for KMT victory in Taiwan (good for Chink-Taiwanese relations) and the impending stimmy Xi will unleash

sharing my list of top/bottom signals:
MGM
SQ
PYPL
LYFT
SPOT
META

make of that what you will

>>57268135
oil is starting to pump. you can see it with your eyes now or tomorrow. your choice. again i am not here to argue with anyone. i am here to make money. why? because money buys pussy and food. the two things that keep me going.

>>57268401
The average dominos pizza will run you $8 US. It's for broke white trash and niggers that want to finance a pizza because they are deadbeats and will literally ruin their credit score because they never intend to pay it back because the average American can't plan beyond tomorrow

>>57268403
xpeng has been tanking for weeks. it's due to correct upward. chinks love a fireworks show.

>>57268386
you might as well ask it to do the needful. Ai bullrun is coming to a close. just a feeling.

>>57268151
why are you so angry? unnecessary and wasteful emotion.
in Dec i financed a $20 cotton-only sweater from Macys using Klarna just to test it out. it was comfy. paid it off in 2 payments plus one lump sum at the end. 5+5+10. play the game. it's just points. who cares. you think other people are inferior for financing a pizza? fine. don't interact with them.

>>57268415
what a shit deal, i figured it could be for when you are at a weekend and dont feel like cooking and that you wouldnt need the energy from the food, paying 70 bucks for an 8 dollar pizza means you would have to eat it more regularly than that.

>>57268405
God I hope youre right
>Captcha: twgay

>>57268151
>government hyperinflates
>can’t afford it cuz foreigners taking err jawbs!!
>oy vey bnpl
>>apocalypto never ended

>>57268401
Worse. PL. We can't even grow bananas in this climate.

take gains order placed for my OIL
We're eating good tonight, oilbros!!!

>>57268086
>r*ddit in the OP
I didn't even see that up until reading your post. It's so fucking over...

For me, it's feembraps delivered straight into my mouth and nose holes

Bros. Am I retarded for still holding Bitcoin Miner stocks such as BITF, WULF, and HUT?

>>57268513
You're retarded for buying corn miners in the first place.

>>57268450
The biggest problem the US faces today as far as the labor market goes is, there are a lot of good jobs out there that pay pretty well and offer insurance, but you are basically expected to give your life to them. It's not that they'll treat you poorly or be bad employers, it's that a lot of people these days value their free time more than money. Nothing wrong with that, but it's created a sort of productivity vacuum where a lot of shit needs to be done but people are resistant to volunteer. This is a fucking employees market. I look back on 2008 and compare it to today and can't believe people aren't securing good jobs right now before the bottom falls out. Im by no means wealthy, but I have enough money now where I buy whatever I want and don't really bother checking my bank account because I'm that comfortable. The average young laborer is so unspeakably retarded that you can enter a job as a grunt and be invaluable in 3 months of you have a good work ethic and aren't soft as baby skin. Don't waste this opportunity because chinks, pajeets, and wetbacks are coming to seize these opportunities at ludacris speed.

>>57268522
ludicrous

>>57268528
No I meant what I said

>>57268005
I dun goofed

>>57268500
If you ever make it, go to Madeira, it´s kind of a tax haven, the closest you have to an all white european caraibean island, and you can grow small yet sweet bananas with which you can make Poncha. I cracked my head open there yet i have found memories of it.

Keep going houthis. Capture dem oil barrels

>>57268005
>>57268545
I bough all your oil.

>see capitulation on shit n piss
>look again
>completely random bounce above the support
What? Is this just bots fighting bots?

oil stop order triggered, got 10% in a few days, I should do this more often and with more money

>>57267438
>>57267629
Especially those that took the Clot shot.
>Turbo Cancers
Paul and his vids will be greatly missed.

>>57268005
AHHAHAAHAHAA

>>57268005
me too, clearly a local top
I'll buy again in -10%

>>57268586
line make boing

Pump on PPI, cause it will be low.

CPI was high, but because of shelter/rent + some insurances. Probably the reason why it didn't really dump as the market thinks these are just some TRANSITORY price increases

>>57268634
The inflation is trans and valid.

>>57268613
I didn't have much left anyway, I'm missing out on like $100 extra bucks. I have made $1808.31 from swinging Feb 2024 contracts.

Does anyone in the world care about jeet stock market or fucking Nigeria pulling an ATH? Why is tradingview shoving turdworlder news in my face?

>Jobs - strong.
>Inflation - hot.
>Interest - down.
Bond baggies are still buying thinking there's going to be 6 gorillion cuts this year, starting in march.

>>57268741
>jeet stock market or fucking Nigeria pulling an ATH?
Jeet market is a bubble and Nigeria is at an ATH because the Naira is weak as shit.

>>57268747
They really think PPI will save them, meanwhile it will likely take away any possible lube they'd get for a night with Powell.

>>57268761
The fiscal discipline is so abysmal, I'd be surprised if the 10-30y yields don't go above the FED funds.

I say shitcoin, you say stockmarket.

SHITCOIN

oof even the US futures are going down

That's a big shakeout. Are you ok mumu?

>>57268005
good move. saudis prepping to do a pricing war again.
>>57268613
>>57268557
>>57268545
enjoy bagholding oil for another 10 years.

>>57268834
I can laugh at people even without having any money in that game. Currently only into indices. And picrel

>>57268842
>indices
what a idiot.

>>57268834
>enjoy bagholding oil for another 10 years.
Peak oil is in the year 3000.

>>57267328
I had a few bullish broken wing butterflies for TSLA that *were* doing really well but now obviously have completely went to shit with TSLA stock suddenly crashing.

Do I cut out completely, wait until expiration to decide (end of Feb), or start to play the roll game in the hopes TSLA eventually recovers and I can recover what was lost?

>>57268865
TSLA is going back to 80. There is no more growth and competitors are catching up. Nothing but downside.

>>57268856
*an

>>57268880
>*an

>>57268889

>some euroid daytrader scum actually bought that plummet
Literal mental illness. PPI will be funny.

>>57268933
I legit can't tell if the US is trading with EU or not. This is because certain stocks like Apple and Tesla etc can be traded during EU hours (10 am german time). But 10 am german time is also 9am UK, so it also could be just the brits. It is pretty obvious that 10 am german time things change in the market. I'm not sure if that is just the UK or if also some prepremarket US.

Kek at LLAP bagholders

>>57268969
Im loading up today

>>57267442
You can’t DCA monthly bottoms you fucking retard. You might as well say that if you HFT 1 minut bottoms and sell 1 minute tops you make 4,371% PA

>currently able up to save 15k a year
>Including a salary bump and stonks, i will enter 6 figure hell at 28-29
What then? What's the point of all this? It doesn't fucking matter, I'll have to Wageslave for the rest of my life

>>57267869
>oil can’t get out of a slump
You bottom ticked it

>>57268005
>bottom ticked it

>>57269027
Welcome to reality, this is life for most. Most people cant even put aside 15k a year. Those who do, do so through mortgage payments. You will own nothing and be happy. But really, I am saving up to 100k and then just going down to working a part-time job 3 days a week and taking it easy. There is nothing you can do at this point it seems.

>>57269035
I sold here, could have been worse

>>57269059
Buy Ropa

>>57269027
if most people had enough money to the point that they thought they didn't have to work there are 2 outcomes:
1) nothing would be produced
2) money would be worthless

>>57268953
the british market opens at 8am london time

Bobros did you short TSLA yesterday?

>>57268403
>KMT win, semis and index dump because of fear of CCP actions (see: Xi election earlier in 2022)
>DDP win, semis and index dump after Xi's comment about warning Taiwan's decisions with western companies

In both case it's a dump m8

Minute trading daytraders are probably the most deranged goombling addicted fiends. No wonder majority of them go fucking broke if they can't zoom out.

>>57269124
True. Lost 700 bucks yesterday and I'm down 500 now all time. I started trading in November and am mentally in the boglehead stage now

Wow this is a good thread full of advice. But that will not stop me from loading up on more tupperware calls.

>>57268634
Can't wait for the price gouging to happen again, which will fire up inflation. Companies's greed has no bound

>>57269095
Oh, ok. So they open early to be at the same time as the rest of the EU?

>>57269137
take profits all the time, it's really all you can do

>>57269159
yeah i think so, 10am is really pure american pre-market

>>57269171
>take profits all the time, it's really all you can do
How

>>57269180
I mean sometimes it is really obvious how at 10am the game changes, like yesterday when DAX started dumping hard.

>>57269086
>1) nothing would be produced
>2) money would be worthless
Both of these things are already true

>>57268969
> muh 2.4 billion contract

Pretty blatant pump and dump. Some shill started spamming it here after it had already run up 10x on news of a "contract". Five minutes of research and it was obvious the whole company is a promotion scheme. Kek BAGGIES

What war stocks are we buying for ww3

>>57269171
When I take profits its always way too early, which feels worse for me than losing money holding bearish stocks.

>>57269182
well you divide the volume of your position by 3.
2/3 of this volume will be used to achieve some decent daily goal like 100 euros/day tops, and 1/3 will be used for pure greed by letting a runner run with a trailing stop.

Once the tiny goal of 100 euro.day is reached, you stop trading. That's the hard part.
If you want to keep trading for the day, switch to a demo account to see how you would end up losing all the morning gain in the afternoon lol.

Can’t stop won’t stop

>>57267378
Almost like fed policy doesn’t affect inflation directly at all, wow

MARAbros....it was supposed to go up

>>57269237
this is the way. Leave runners to sate that greedy urge.

>>57267661
The contracts for all the construction and mining companies I handle have doubled in volume over the past year.

Can't find BTC etf on degiro
Can't find BTC etf on etoro
lel

>>57269237
>well you divide the volume of your position by 3.
>2/3 of this volume will be used to achieve some decent daily goal like 100 euros/day tops, and 1/3 will be used for pure greed by letting a runner run with a trailing stop.
>Once the tiny goal of 100 euro.day is reached, you stop trading. That's the hard part.
>If you want to keep trading for the day, switch to a demo account to see how you would end up losing all the morning gain in the afternoon lol.
All of this only works if you actually make good trades. I'm a gambloor who didn't even manage to make profit on long term stuff

>>57269241
Especially not when you hint at cuts 2-3 months after reaching your "peak".

>>57269241
Yup, they have absolutely no effect on m2.

>>57269269
If you are entering bad trades then you:

Need to stop. Reassess your shit. You also need to fail fast. You can have a 90% loss rate and still make bank if you:
> fail fast, save that capital and move on to the next one like a non nigger.

Where do you guys find information about companies that arent known to mainstream investors?

>>57269297
>>57269279
m2 is m1 + other shit you absolute midwit fucknigger.

>>57268879
Rip my 200$ then

>>57269269
well you need a system which gives you an entry signal and exit signal. EMAs, bollinger bands and the usual oscillators are fine for this.
for instance you can watch this
https://youtu.be/7Df_5xepCcw
https://youtu.be/D6VtLlacVN4
I like Oscar Carboni because he sticks to daily and weekly chart.

this stuff is super basic and works well as long as you accept that you have to target tiny profits.

Sorry bobos we're just not gonna dip today. Yeah i know cpi, ww3, trannies, etc. We gottta pump.

>>57269308
>midwit
>states obvious

>>57269171
This really is the answer

>>57269182
Sell portions of your stock or sell options to lock in profits. All my best successes have been just incrementally selling deep itm options against my position. If the stock goes up the next day the max I can make is the premium I sold the calls for- but that’s fine because that’s GREEN MONEY baby. I then just ROLL the call again to lock in that profit and allow myself to collect even MORE

>>57269297
you can't, insider trading is done at the high level only
There's a PBS documentary on some jew who unfortunately got caught. Turns out he managed to avoid prison lol and keeps trading...
https://youtu.be/1szayJV505M


Cohen was implicated in an alleged insider trading scandal involving an ex-SAC manager, Mathew Martoma. The SEC brought charges against many other S.A.C. employees from 2010 to 2013 with various outcomes. Martoma was convicted in 2014, in what federal prosecutors billed as the most profitable insider-trading conspiracy in history. The SEC later brought a civil lawsuit against Cohen, alleging his failure to supervise Martoma and Michael Steinberg, who was a senior employee and confidant of Cohen's. Cohen settled his civil case with regulators in January 2016; the agreement with the SEC prohibited Cohen from managing outside money until 2018.

S.A.C. Capital Advisors "pleaded guilty to insider trading charges in 2013 and paid $1.8 billion in penalties" and was required to stop handling investments for outsiders.[12] Cohen "escaped criminal indictment himself despite being the living, breathing heart of S.A.C. Capital."[12]

In 2014, Cohen founded Point72 Ventures, "a venture capital fund that makes early-stage investments".[26]
GameStop short squeeze

In January 2021, Cohen's hedge fund Point72 joined Ken Griffin's Citadel in putting $2.75 billion into Melvin Capital, the hedge fund of former Cohen protege Gabe Plotkin, as a result of the GameStop short squeeze. Cohen denied that his involvement with the short squeeze would affect his willingness to spend money on the New York Mets. Cohen deactivated his Twitter account on January 29, 2021, due to an influx of threats against him and his family.

Cohen is portrayed by Vincent D'Onofrio in the 2023 film Dumb Money, a biographical drama covering the short squeeze.

>>57269336
You suggesting the fed has nothing to do with our money supply is the most jewish thing I've ever heard.

>>57269338
That doesn't make sense at all if you only trade stocks. For options sure, but options have an expiration date anyway

>>57269357
...thats the fucking joke.

>>57269317
Dont take it from me, youll probably be fine.

>>57269027
gonna swing for the fences anon

>>57267328
if youre in a crashing airplane, put all your money into puts before it crashes
suddenly my fear of flying is completely gone

Im buying on open

>>57269237
>daytrading
Anon...

>pick a position
>go all in
>tight stop loss
>if it goes up let it ride
this is the next level after daytrading

>>57269435
Lol thats not a bad coping mechanism for people with fear of flying

>>57269459
>tight stop loss
How tight?

>>57267365
Kek

>>57267613
This. As I checked out of costco the other day the cashier said
>this was the first cart under $100 all day

>>57269469
just enough to not end up like bagholders in GME general

>>57269486
I gotta go to COST today.

>>57269027
yup, thats what I plan to do, hell my dad retired with good money but he's back at it being a substitute teacher.

I plan on either dealing blackjack at a casino, setting up a woodshop selling modest furniture, or getting me own semi and me and the wifey traveling the country while making money.

stop being a wimp who only wants to sit around a play vidya, life is for LIVING and ACHIEVING. and all you're achieving with vidya is altering the position of pixels on a screen. fuk off with ya "it doesn't matter boo hoo, I have to work" work can be fun if ya find the right job around the right people. and with a bit of saving and smart long holds, you could easily have enough to only have to work 10 or 20 hours a week then tell everyone to fuk off.

IT'S COOMING
MY PPI

BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG

Pump on no data?

>>57269501
WTFWT?!

>>57269508
>no data
kys retard

>it's in negatives
What the fuck?

PPI lower lol>>57268634

financials will be the story of the day

> already up 7% in pre market

where are my fellow Zim chads ? this is our month you have not sold , right ?

>>57269516
It really took some time to be released. The twitterfags needed almost a full minute, some even more.

Dont sleep on ASTK

>was right on cpi and my puts printed
>maybe right on ppi and maybe calls going to print

>>57269027
>What's the point of all this
to enjoy your 6 figure portfolio. it feels good. really good.

>>57269530
theyre not even up in my list yet...

today is gonna be a bloodbath, aint it

>>57269558
probably nothing, not enough bobos left to do anything.

here we go

>>57269558
Retard, PPI literally did a surprise meaning Powell will pivot. He legitimately might cut rates now and I was 100% convinced PPI print will be dogshit.

lol with the PPI this low, have the corpo finally gave up on price gouging?
Are we finally gonna see, forbid me for the expression and the explicit content, MARGIN REDUCTION?
It doesn't sound very bright for our big corpo, should this scenario play out.
I would expect quick price adjustment from the big lads desu.

>March implied cut probability up to 84% after misses on PPI vs 72% before

>160bps of cuts prices across 2024 vs 152bps before

>>57269578
>He legitimately might cut rates now
lol no

>>57269578
PPI has no reason to be high. Actually CPI also not, which is why I was amazed it was @3,4%yesterday. But we know how it is

>>57269590
>dumbfuck permabobo now ignoring stupidly good PPI print
Dumb nigger, kys. There is legitimately no reason not to cut them now.

>>57269578
im sure he is more concerned that (((the banks))) aren't making money with interest rates where they are and (((they))) will make him raise rates again so capital markets can flourish. Jay bends to (((them))), not wall street.

Are we living through the 1970s again? This might not be a timeloop but history often rhymes.
>High inflation
>Oil embargo incoming due to Israeli/US shenanigans
>Foreign wars with no clear objective(I expect they'll bring back the draft)
>Fiscal policy causing real world damage to the economy
Say its different this time bros

>>57269588
across the board, starting from the banks, its going to be more expensive for everyone to do business going forward
welcome to financial contraction

>>57269600
There actually is no reason to cut them. Why would you cut in a hot labour market, too high inflation (3,4% is still too high) and good gdp? Why?

yeah rate will be cuts when primary dealers will feel pain, before that, nothing will happens

>>57269605
Wait a minute...wall street isnt (((them)))?

>>57269613
same as it ever was

>>57269618
the primary dealers are the big boss of finance
https://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/primarydealers

>>57269617
>good GPD
>PPI (more important) is low
That's why you dumb nigger. Labor market is hot because the fucking economy is doing well despite the rates.

invest on oil companies or renewable energy?

>>57269613
>not interested in a girl 15 years younger
Thought no guy ever

>>57269650
>the fucking economy is doing well
I disagree, this is one of the worst economies we have seen since 2020.

>>57269650
You’re dumb and won’t be any rate cuts

>>57269674
Nobody cares what you think retard. You are not the economy.

What's going on?

>>57269674
Do you have any stats whatsoever to show this?

>>57269578
>>57269600
>>57269650
a sound, logical, economic assessment

>>57269687
I have my finger close to the pulse of this economy, while you have your head up your ass.

>>57269690
yes I do, no I won't share them.

>>57269435
A thread like that (literally posting in real time while plane is still operating) would be epic /smg/. Need to add that to my bucket list.

Tom Keene just said on fucking Bloomberg that he "loaded the boat" on bitcoin at 49 thousand looking for 50k lmao

>>57269690
stats are fake nigger

WHY DIDNT I BUY MORE SONY AND NINTENDO WHEN I HAD THE CHANCE
FUUUUUUUUUCK

S&P 500 ATH inbound bros
next month we correct and bobos come out of hiding

>>57269704
probably wouldnt be able to because the net would get knocked off most likely
but im thinkingb efore every flight you just set up orders and if you live to cancel them, cancel them

the quality commentary you get at stocktwits. just $350 a year for our edge subscription!

>>57269712
>SONY AND NINTENDO
Today is a Vidya day

>>57269650
Yes and that is why you don't need to lower them. What for?

Buy ASTK you fucking niggers.

>"$1 in january 2000 has the same buying power as $1.82 in december 2023"

>>57269729
>What for?
So the trend doesn't reverse into stagnation you dumb nigger. Japan's stock market is literally skyrocketing right now, their economy is recovering, should US suddenly take the backseat to fucking JAPAN of all places?

>>57269588
>Are we finally gonna see, forbid me for the expression and the explicit content, MARGIN REDUCTION?
for this to happen, financial conditions need to be tight enough that things start to go bankrupt and race to the bottom for survival begins

>>57269736
Honestly that's not too bad. Less than 100% inflation over quarter of a decade? That's babby tier

>>57269742
wtf has japan to do with all that?
Why would it when economy is good? Only risking inflation.

>>57269674
do not engage with tripfaggots retards

>>57269745
The whole of the 19th century was deflationary, including during the entirety of the Industrial Revolution

NatGas today!

>>57269736
Cool, I'm pretty sure I have a bunch of dollars from the 90s around here somewhere.

>>57269764
for me, it's female natural gas

>>57269763

BUDDY
CHECK TICKERS
NI
GGE
RS
COMPUTER

>>57269763
>The whole of the 19th century was deflationary, including during the entirety of the Industrial Revolution
Lmfao yeah go back even further to make your point KEK
Why not start with the 18th century?

>>57269745
what I don't get with capital gains tax is that inflation is not part of the calculation, even though it kind of has to be. If I make a 4% profit in one year and inflation is 2%, then I effectively only make a profit of 2% because the other 2% are just inflation compensation and therefor not a financial profit, yet 100% of my profit is taxed.

>>57269751
>wtf has japan to do with all that?
You are literally too stupid to talk about economy or inflation to. Goomble away on 0DTE robinshit options retard.

>>57269754

>>57269751
The guys a clown, trolling you, or a psyop.

>>57269783
Now you're getting the scam

>>57269783
This hurts the tribesmen more than it hurts you.

>>57269787
>
I accept your concession

>>57269792
>you should choke your economy with high rates at every opportunity until it calls you your cumslut because... it can take it!
Now I understand why the average IQ in your country is like fucking 94 and you have trillions of debt.

>>57269764
NAT
GAS
EVERY
DAY

>>57269783
Not to mention
>taxed on the income you use to invest
>taxed again if you make a profit
>if you use that profit to buy something you get taxed yet again
Nothing personnel, goy

>>57269706
So what are you basing your opinion off of?

>>57269613
>Say its different this time bros
It's even worse.

>>57269821
His schizophrenia.

It's de-inverting
Mumoids are toast even if they think this is the bottom.
These euphoric chucklefucks are finally going to be toasted.

BABA is so tempting

>>57269501
now this was a human doing a BANG BANG if I ever saw it

>>57269829
>BABA is so tempting
You know what's right.

next
>>57269840
>>57269840
>>57269840
>>57269840

>>57269838
Already have a small position that I want to add to but I dont know if I should wait until monday after the election in Taiwain or get in early today.

>they laughed at me for selling my Oil at the same price that it's at now

>>57269809
Love it when foreigners shit on america in an argument out of nowhere. I picture a guy in an apt with a space heater eating some form of boiled potato

>>57269613
no
tech will pump for another decade

>>57269459
How can I find good tickets to trade?

>>57267358
duckduckgo

>>57269829
Imagine buying baba after what the cccp did to jack ma. you are an idiot.

>>57269495
>just enough to not end up like bagholders in GME general
That's not a concrete answer at all. In percentage please. 10%? 30%? More?
Some options can make moves like -50% in a single day and bounce around back to +200%

>>57270003
i love china
bought tencent when they announced the game rule change
bought more when they threw out the guy who proposed the rule change

>BYND ATH of $234 after IPO to $7 now
Beyond Meat more like Beyond Dead