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The global VPN market is estimated to be worth 23.6 billion in 2019 according to: https://www.statista.com/statistics/542817/worldwide-virtual-private-network-market/

However, using a commercial VPN has one key disadvantage: You have to trust the company to not keep any logs or spy on you in any other way.

There are currently several projects in crpyo trying to tackle this problem with dVPNs, the idea is very simple, you can rent out or buy bandwidth/IP addresses.

These are the three main players at the moment:

Mysterium: already has a working testnet for windows, mac and android. I routinely use it on windows and android and it works well. They were the first player in the market. Based on Ethereum.

Sentinel: They have a working version on testnet for windows, linux, mac and android. Also works really well. They also offer nodes connecting to tor for outgoing connections and are currently testing multihopping. Based on Cosmos.

Privatix: They are an existing VPN company (privatix.com is their page for their "normal" VPN) and they plan to bring over all their vpn users to their dVPN. Also working testnet on windows and linux. Also based on ethereum.

All three of them claim to be the first dVPN, however I think they are on the same level, all have working testnets, so the one that releases to mainnet first is not necessarily farther than the others.

Also all three can tap the market for residental IPs, which are currently very expensive (https://luminati.io/ is one of the leading providers and a residental IP costs 12.5 Dollar per GB with at least a 500 dollar per month commitment)

dVPNs will be able to beat both commercial VPN providers on price (because of more efficient market) and residental IP providers on price by a far margin. Also Netflix, Hulu,... lock most commercial VPNs because they come from datacenter IPs, they will not be able to do this with dVPNs, as some of them will be just normal residental IP addresses.

tl;dr: decentraliced VPNs good

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nice

>> No.13412984

>>13412923
>however I think they are on the same level,

Lies

Sentinel is the only motherfucker in this market

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Sentinel has recently released sneak peak of relay network, not even biggest mainstream players have that in place yet. It is also building on tenderimin. Cosmos, binance and now sentinel which has 2m cap. 2/3 Already pumped the third you can get a nice bag of for cheap so my question is
>why are you still poor anon?

>> No.13412994

I've also been looking into this lately.
Privatix already has millions of clients of their centralized VPN services that potentially could move to their decentralized network so I believe they will be the ones to win the race.

>> No.13413004

i tried sentinel dvpn its working nicely, im also pretty hyped about their relay net

>> No.13413034

>>13412986
>>13413004
whats a relay network you are talking about?
I bought sub once but sold all at heavy loss after it got delisted from binance

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13413046

Money money money

>> No.13413051

>>13412923
Thx for sharing

>> No.13413066

>>13413034
Basically it passes your data through multiple servers which should completely hide your original IP even from nodes themselves.
You can read full explanation on their medium article
https://medium.com/sentinel/sentinel-project-update-exchange-of-50-tb-android-app-update-sneak-peek-of-the-sentinel-c1e92c1dc9a3

>> No.13413079

>>13413066
Thanks, I checked on the website and see that its currently free to use, will give it a try

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At 2 million market cap this puppy will pump so bad my grankids wont even need to think about work

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I own approx. the same amount in dollar in all three of them, dunno which is best of one will make it for sure.

>> No.13413144

>>13413132
Sentinel is the best tech wise as it has been building on tendermint and already has relay network prototype which isnt even planned by other competitors, the rest is up to community and marketing

>> No.13413210

>>13413132
that's a smart approach, hedging into all of them might not be the most profitable solution but certainly the best

>> No.13413303

>>13412923
Mysterium did their ico during the last bull run, so if they didn't leave it in eth, they have a decent sized warchest. Their codebase is good and I like the emphasis in VPN as a service; they could more easily partner with other dapps.

However, their volume is for shit. It also looks like they are the target of some baseless fud.

>> No.13413311

>>13413132
sent is the best positioned they have been building on cosmos and have a working product that is slowly getting adoption as you can see by this page https://stats.sentinel.co/

>> No.13413312

I knew nothing about these projects but now Im super interested!
Once in a while biz is useful

>> No.13413334

>>13413311
Privatix already has millions of clients, you can't beat that with promises.

>> No.13413344

>>13413303
>fud??

>> No.13413350

>>13413303
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugbRyZSPfYE&feature=youtu.be&t=3h25m20s
I held that fuckiing shitcoin mys their tech is shit and their dude got rekt live on stage at devcon, such incompetent team made me loose a fuckload of money i ragret holding it sooo much

>> No.13413356

>>13413334

Still no good tech and still all of them on centralized VPN

>> No.13413369

>>13413350
wow that mysterium team member got owned on stage, must be so embarassing at some point it looks like he is about to cry

>> No.13413398

>>13413356
When mainnet comes in June, all those millions of clients will have access to the decentralized one. Those are already Privatix clients. What do you think will happen then.

>> No.13413411

>>13413350
It always makes me regret not doing an ico back then seeing poor management by mysterium guys

>> No.13413432

>>13413398

The network breaks because the tech is not good for dVPN

>> No.13413438

Guys, I know each of this project and I am also developer "unfortunately" )))

My friends and I, look at all the decentralized VPN projects closely for more than a year.

The only one which is worth to look at is Privatix Network. All the rest is bullshit.

They are using a lot of centralization or using private/fake blockchains.

Only Privatix has right now, fully working Exit node soft on Win, Mac,Linux . Which is 100% working on smart contracts and open-source. No servers, total autonomy.

Take their github and play with this https://github.com/Privatix/privatix

They are professionals.

Yes, they are slow and low-funded , but they will succeed for sure. Study their past year work and you will see.

>> No.13413453

>>13413438
>They are using a lot of centralization or using private/fake blockchains.

Are you high? Thats completly bullshit for SENT

>> No.13413463

>>13413438
Trust me im a developer
Lol ive heard that before totally not a shill

>> No.13413507

>>13413438
have you looked into sent too?

>> No.13413574

>>13413507
He hasnt looked into any of them, he has just a heavy privatix bag, proof is he wont be able to post any actual non generic criticism of other dvpns

>> No.13413576

>>13413350
>>13413369
He didn't get rekt imo. He got asked a series of questions that were basically 'why isn't it tor?' and was a little too consiliatory with his responses.

>> No.13413614

>>13413411

I have not invested in their ICO, I invested much later, so that's why I probably do not have such a negative opinion of them.

Their dVPN works really well, both hosting a node and using a client is easy and well documented. Their windows and Android VPN ist easy to use and they already have payment running in beta, so in terms of technology I think they are on par with their competitors.

It's probably going to be marketing/partnerships that will determine who emerges the victor.

>> No.13413655

>>13413576
true, didn't seem weird to me.

>> No.13413663

>>13413614
they have no relay network with multiple hops like sentinel and no tor exit nodes also being built on eth makes them expensive and slow as fuck and you need to own both the token and eth to pay which is totally bullshit and non user friendly, while sent being built on tendermint will be able to accept any crypto for payement and has very fast confirmation times cause it has its own dpos chain

>> No.13413671

I hope one of these things takes off. Perhaps greed and shilling can be more of a motivation for normies than, like, *not living in a surveillance state*.

>> No.13413713

>>13413671
shilling gives more incentives for adoption of good tech its a win win scenario

>> No.13413763

>>13413671
But which one?
It's impossibile to answer this question right now

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I think Brave has mentioned in the past that they'd like to provide a service where you can use BAT to purchase VPN usage. Would be pretty neat if they partnered with some dVPN service to do this in the future.

Personally I've never even used a VPN. Why do people use them?

>> No.13413812

Oh ok so they took the TOR network code and commercialized it. Got it.

>> No.13413859

>>13413763
Several can make it. It's a business with no overheads if bandwidth is provided by someone else. Competition is good.

>> No.13413872

>>13413812
Tor (TOR) is too slow for many use cases and many many sites block Tor exit nodes.

There is a reason why VPNs are such a big market. And no, commercial VPN providers also do not use the Tor network code.

>> No.13413882

>>13413812
Tor doesn't have enough nodes and isn't fast enough for torrents.

>> No.13413887

>>13413872
I meant Tor (not TOR) as it's not a fucking abbreviation.

>> No.13414037

>>13413810
Football streams and torrents for me. Also, the UK is introducing a nationwide porn block soon and I don't intend to get my loicence.

>> No.13414070

>>13413810
just use to minimalize my digital footprint for all those data mining faggot services and websites we got nowadays. i don't even do anything illegal at all, it just gives me a little bit of freedom back to not being tracked the whole time.

>> No.13414098 [DELETED] 

>>13412923
you rent your connection for others to commit fraud, authorities gonna blame you first

>> No.13414113

>>13414098
with sentinel relay nodes and exit into tor you are secure cause all the data passing through your node will be encrypted. like that you are just a relay node not an entry or exit

>> No.13414141

>>13414098
>You're safer when you're watched

>> No.13414187

>>13414037
>Oy mate, wheres your wank license
I personally use them just for additional layer of privacy, not a fan of corporations collecting my data

>> No.13414190

>>13412923
nah, accumulate.
I have identified the right one long time ago and once it explodes I am gonna retire.

>> No.13414197

>decentraliced

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>>13413438
Love the paragraph formatting. I can tell you contribute to this Egyptian snowmobile maintenance forum often.

>> No.13414259

>>13412923
All three of these are utility tokens. Tokens are worthless so I'll pass

>> No.13414286

>>13414259
no sentinel will be a staking token for its own DPOS chain when main net launches, testnet its already launched and fully working

>> No.13414287

dVPN is a business outside of crypto, so you don't actually need kids buying into it to get the price up. The more there is usage, the better the price will get.

Privatix wins competition. As mentioned, they are the only 100% decentralized platform that will run on Ethereum virtually forever should Ethereum exist. If there is a centralized server in a service it will get taken down or there is a possibility of missuse of users data and this in privacy business is exactly what you want to avoid.

But, more than that, let's talk about the business. You'll soon want Privatix as it makes 1000x your money if you buy it right now. I don't like shillers myself and this is why I talk this way because I seriously want to give you guys a chance in here. Believe me or not, I don't care. Just please don't hit your heads to the wall as you see it go past 1 billion in marketcap.

Why would it, though? Easy. Know Bitcoin? Yeah? Know that it has max 21 million supply? Yeah. Thats good. Well, Privatix has 1,2 million total supply. Talk about that Bitcoin scarcity effect at play. It is so small that for the network to function properly you need high price to get enough liquidity to properly even use the dVPN. Also, team only made 100k tokens for themselves: do you really think that they are that stupid that they only do 100k of tokens for themselves if they didn't know that they have a chance of making every token worth 1500$/token. Otherwise you would do like the rest of the competition and print millions just incase. They're a real company btw, not just another ICO sh*t.

After comes their .com users. Millions of users are transferred to dVPN. Top 10 coins on coinmarketcap, how many of them can say million users. That's right. This is how you'll make it to top 20. Millions of paying customers and Bitcoin effect 20x harder. As it starts to rise by mainnet launch in June it will gain a lot of attention as it makes big gains daily. Then suddenly the gains will suprise you.

>> No.13414317

>>13412923
so what coin am I supposed to buy to earn profit from these vpnhs

>> No.13414334

>>13414317
Mysterium (MYST), Sentinel (SENT) and/or Privatix (PRIX).

Do your own research.

>> No.13414346

>>13414286
Seven delegates? Trash

>> No.13414350

>>13412923
Ooooh, myysteeriuuum

>> No.13414376

>>13414346
Why seven? If tendermint trash binance wouldnt have launched its dex on it. Sentinel has been building vpn on for over a year and now with relay network its the most advanced crypto vpn on the market

>> No.13414383

>>13414346
where did you read seven delegates? it will have around 100 at start then it will scale out to 400-1000 and it will scale orizonatally too so spawning a new blockchain if needed

>> No.13414401

>>13414383
so it will be a centralized solution and therefore no improvement with respect to a regular VPN?

>> No.13414466

>>13414401
1 the number of nodes will be unlimited
2 sentinel dvpn has a version deploted also on ethereum
3 it can scale orizonatally so the numbers of validators is not limited think of it as sharding
4 sentinel switched away from ethereum cause the chain is becoming bloated as fuck and ethereum is needed to use it, normies will never learn how to use 2 coins (gas etc...) and wait long confirmation times.
also other dvpns running on ethereum rely on infura nodes or have to run their own nodes thus making them way more centralized
5 switching away from eth allows sentinel to accept any crypto as payement for the dvpn service included btc

>> No.13414519

>>13414376
Binance isn't running an actual DEX though.
>>13414383
Sentinels delegated by the Uppsala Foundation.

>> No.13414524

>>13414466
You didn't answer my question. Yes, with a centralized network you can have tons of advantages, that's why Privatix already has a successful centralized VPN with millions of clients. But in the de-centralized department, there are just no competitors.

>> No.13414548

>>13414524
i explained to you that the number of validators will be infinite through orizontal scaling and that an ethreum version is also available but guess you don't understand this or have no actual criticism other then dialectics and generalization

>> No.13414608

>>13412978
>pic related
Nice

>> No.13414645

>>13414519
>Uppsala Foundation.
you have wrong sentinel in mind stupid kike
sentinel.co is the right one $SENT

>> No.13414998

Good idea, thanks

>> No.13415426

My fave is Privatix for many of the aforementioned reasons. Can't imagine what millions of users with daily payments do to a coin with such a low supply. Yummy!

We all should get some though, this is one of the big coming trends of cypto.

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I've never had a reason to use a VPN, other than margin trading crypto, and I have yet to stoop to that level of desperation to gambling my BTC away

So why is everyone using VPNs?

>> No.13415701

>>13415683
nevermind.. this has already been answered since I left this browser tab open. Sorry goys

>> No.13415932

Sooo... What prevents an evil exit node from sniffing outgoing traffic or injecting shit into plaintext streams? I mean, if anyone can become an exit node, then you're just trading a large centralized trust (traditional VPN) for a bunch of different smaller ones (dVPN). The relays should help hide the source, but the exit can still fuck with the traffic.

>> No.13416438

>>13415932
but exit node doesn't know whose traffic it is... if you manage to fuck up streams going through your node you end up losing your node.

>> No.13416958

bump.

>> No.13417556

fuck you biz, the thread dies whenever I reply

>> No.13417755

>>13417556
I have that too

Have a bump for this