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What went wrong?

>> No.15597573

You're meant to write the whitepaper, then the software
They stopped after step 1

>> No.15597584
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>>15597569
Stupid FUD.
Nothing went wrong, shelley coming EOY.
We moon to 1$ soon.

>> No.15597738

>>15597569
100x in usd and 20x in btc by november 2021 all US big money will buy this smart contract solution and not Eth for geopolitical reasons. Understand what formal verification mean and how a megacorp think.

>> No.15597747

Cardano is good but slow, like BBQ ribs

>> No.15597835

>>15597569
Not enough COOM

>> No.15597840
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>>15597569

>> No.15597865

>>15597840
What the actual fuck?
I was super fucking bullish thinking Cardano is legitimate Japanese project researched by hard working Japanese programmers.
And now this? Are they fucking retarded hiring mentally retarded imbecilels.

>> No.15597866

>>15597840
Egh.. that thing is probably smart enough to be beneficiary to the project. Haskell attracts some weird people.

>> No.15597871 [DELETED] 

>>15597866
Looks like the guy moved on https://twitter.com/beka_valentine

>> No.15597917

>>15597871
It actually blocked me apparently. I think I called it out on the "especially if you're not a man" thing awhile back

>> No.15597975

>>15597840
kek that would explain why cardano has the ANUS logo

>> No.15598075

>>15597865
they did bot hire that thing. he used to look like a normal neckbearf dude before he went wierd. the part of the project he works on is ahead of schedule so, cry more dumbass

>> No.15598102
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>>15598075

This is him before he lost the plot.

>> No.15598126

Tezos has already done everything Cardano said they were gonna do

>> No.15598127

>>15598102
so that's what cardano does to you
cardano, not even once

>> No.15598140

Cardano has never hit a development mile stone yet Charles acts like he is a god while he really is a faggot

No reason to buy until they actually deliver and stop postponing

>> No.15598662

>>15598126
>>15598140
Is it true that Charles and Arthur got into an argument at a party and Charles eventually fucked his wife in the elevator?

>> No.15598671

>>15597865
Most of their programmers are anglos living in Japan, I personally know one and tried to stir him to another project.

I would say Cardano is the most legit project behind Ethereum in terms of tech (now that Tezos lost half of its devs to Dune) but it has the same structural issue (it has no clue wtf it's supposed to do) and as >>15598140 said Hoskinson is a cringey manchild with absolutely no leadership skills.

>> No.15598686

>>15598671
Does the Tezos structural issue has anything to do with the Charles having sex with other peoples woman or is it all a rumor and not related to each other?

>> No.15598741

>>15598662
haha what the fuck
is it an actual rumor or is it a larp? it's oddly specific
any other source?

>> No.15598751

>>15598671
>it has the same structural issue (it has no clue wtf it's supposed to do)
ETH is running blind into the future with no clue wtf it is supposed to do, true. evidenced by the fact that ETH has changed destinations MULTIPLE times because the dev path they were blindly cutting did not pan out. Cardano is the exact opposite. they put in the time and research at the beginning to figure out EXACTLY where they are going and exactly how to get there. now they are executing. Phase 2 of Cardano POS (networked) testnet launches this month, phase 3 of the testnet (incentivized) thereafter with full POS (Shelly) launching Q4. they know where they are going and they are on track. Q1 2020 is smart contract integration which is developing in parallel by a seperate team and is thus very far along. Q1/Q2 2020 also sees the final version of Ouroboros-- Ouroboros Hydra (Sharding) which is VERY well understood, you can read the scientific paper on it if you are doubtful. Saying that Cardano does not know wtf it is supposed to do is ignorant

>> No.15598896

>>15598686
No clue what you're babbling about Charles, Tezos is fucked because they lost most their Ocaml devs who are forking:
>https://www.theblockcrypto.com/linked/27613/fallout-between-tezos-foundation-and-ocamlpro-may-lead-to-tezos-hard-fork

Ocaml devs are a handful and mostly come from the INRIA so it's a big loss in terms of manpower for them.

>>15598751
I'm not questioning their technical expertise but the usecase and strategy.
The time of quirky science experiments is over now and most people are only slowly realizing they are in businesses now, not academia.
It's not enough to shit new norms and papers, you have to set a concrete target in terms of fuctionalities and products for companies and consumers to use.

I have serious reserves that IOHK will be successful with a guy like Hoskinson behind it, for now they haven't done shit and you see this guy parading around like he is some big shot Jobs/Gates type CEO, it's terrible.

>> No.15599041

>>15598896
>usecase and strategy
>in businesses now
>concrete target in terms of fuctionalities and products for companies and consumers to use
>see this guy parading around like he is some big shot Jobs/Gates type CEO
The reason that charles has been traveling all over the world talking to institutions, govt officials and prime ministers is specifically to assess concretely what the requirements and needs are for govts & related institutions to be able to incorporate blockchain solutions into their systems. It really sounds like you've taken the charles traveling FUD at face value rather than understanding what it is he was doing and why. This is all very clearly explained in his AMAs. Cardano has been doing the leg work that nobody else is doing in crypto to understand what the technical requirements for govts and developing and collobrating with said govts in tandem to develop prototype solutions for particular targeted use cases that will result in the onboarding of hundreds of thousands of people. A particular system developed in one locality can be reapplied in locality after locality.
>for now they haven't done shit
where do you get this idea? your name wouldn't happen to be Eugene would it? anyway here is a counterpoint to the 'haven't done shit' idea. start at 19:15 min mark:
https://youtu.be/bmkQDlhsNGc?t=1155

>> No.15599081

>>15598751
>ETH is running
while cardano isn't, which is why it's worthless.
It's almost 2020 now, any platform that doesn't have a running mainnet with external developers has no chance at anything.

>> No.15599120

>>15599081
that's some serious COPE fren.
>Cardano has a running mainnet.
>Cardano has external developers working on systems already that will launch when gougen hits the mainnet.
https://cardanoroadmap.com/en/goguen/
Yours is the most COPE fueled post in this thread aside from the tranny pasta and the tired 'I don't like charles, waaahhh' pasta

>> No.15599131

>>15599120
>that's some serious COPE fren.
about what, exactly? even harmony is a more likely contender than cardano
>Cardano has a running mainnet.
PoA with nothing but transfers.

>> No.15599171

>>15599131
>what cope?
everything you wrote was factually incorrect. do you have a very personal deeply held definition of what counts as a mainnet? sure looks like it.
>it's 2020, anything that doesn't have a scalable mainnet has no chance of anything
awwww, sorry ETH. Let's hope you get your ETH 2.0 mainnet completed sometime in 2021-22. won't matter though because I just wrote that your scalable mainnet must be live by 2020.
you are COPING hard

>> No.15599232

>>15599171
mainnet without smart contracts means no external developers can develop anything.
>you are COPING hard
you are seriously delusional if you think anyone considers cardano to be a potential competitor at this point.

>> No.15599322

>>15599232
>mainnet without smart contracts means no external developers can develop anything.
When you assume you make an ASS of u and me, or in this case you just look ignorant. The smart contract language is very rich and functional and nearly complete and external developers are already developing on it.
>you are seriously delusional if you think anyone considers cardano to be a potential competitor at this point.
COPE more fren, it sustains me

>> No.15599432
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15599432

>won't matter though because I just wrote that your scalable mainnet must be live by 2020.

Vitalik saw you post and shuted down eth because he missed you deadline based poster

>> No.15599477

>>15599041
>The reason that charles has been traveling all over the world talking to institutions, govt officials and prime ministers is specifically to assess concretely what the requirements and needs are for govts & related institutions to be able to incorporate blockchain solutions into their systems.

He is supposed to already know this stuff before doing the ICO and launching the project.

>> No.15599528

>>15597840
Tranny got fired but they do have women on the team unfortunately.


The good things about cardano, they had a very long 60mil ico in Bitcoin, which if they didn't sell initially has ballooned up to like 600mil assuming they sold 3k on avg per Btc.

Besides that ETH is a fucking mess and cardano have solutions.


The problem price wise is this is a much more convoluted value proposition than Bitcoin, and there is a lot of sell pressure from people that bought the top, as soon as it moves people want to sell their 1.30$ bags.


I have a bag I bought at like 4c but I do think it'll be more profitable to just leverage trade btc.

>> No.15599537

>>15599477
Eth legit had an ico before they had anything. Just some 20 year old high iq autist with an idea and a grant.

>> No.15599543

>>15597569
That kike Charles fleecing you faggots for years

>> No.15599584

Charles already admitted that Tezos is superior

buy tezos instead retards

>> No.15599658

Bad leadership. Charles is a man child twat.

>> No.15599784

>>15598662
Big of true

>> No.15599904

>>15599041
All you wrote is just talk just like Hoskinson is producing a lot of talk (and is obviously enjoying listening to himself) about how they are doing their homework and how it's hard and complicated, etc...
The same thing we heard since 2015 and we have yet to see a single Dapp work on the protocol,

He compares his shit to the internet but the truth is that the internet wasn't built like he's leading Cardano at all, it was in large part built chaotically and empirically. Some concepts had to be ironed but you have to "try your luck" at one point.

Bezos didn't tell his investors in 94 he will build a website which will become the biggest marketplace and logistical empire in the world, maybe he thought about it, but he told them he would sell books online first and he did and it worked and then he began to sell other shits, etc...

Also Charles is sounding more and more deluded with his 1000 years protocol and comparing his fucking Github repo to Apollo, I mean the fucking ego you must have to compare yourself to Von Braun kek.
It's a comfy position though to say "tomorrow it will be great you'll see", in the meantime others are actually trying their luck with crowd and some of them will ultimately stick, while the truth is noone is waiting for Cardano and its supposed perfection.

>> No.15600830

>>15599904
>have yet to see a single Dapp work on the protocol
>that functionality is not live yet
>hur durr why no dapps yet -
Checkmate athiests
>built chaotically and empirically. Some concepts had to be ironed but you have to "try your luck" at one point.
let me spell this out for you clearly because you're clearly mentally challenged. FINANCIAL OPERATING SYSTEM. With billions of dollars on the line you can "try your luck" and slapdash some shit together like ETH and after the 2nd hack and nearly breaking smart contracts due to an update (only to have outside groups catch the error hours before ETH destroyed itself) you might come to the realization that it is wholly irresponsible to develop a financial operating platform the same way you develop an email client at google HQ. you fuck up ETH and you cost people millions (this HAS happened and WILL happen again with the slapdash way that they're developing the platform). There is a reason that banks use Cardano's dev processes for critical banking structure.
>deluded with his 1000 years protocol
never said that dumbass. you know fud works better when it's actually true.
>comparing what Cardano is doing to Apollo
the comparison seems apt. developing a provably secure financial operating system for countries / the world and an enterprise level secure DAPP platform that will be around for decades is a big fucking deal.
>or you can just go with whatever vitalik tells you is best and roll the fucking dice.
yes govts are going to trust that approach.
>>15599432
reading comprehension would benefit you greatly anon

>> No.15601233

>>15599584
Is that perhaps the reason why he fucked his wife?
Can someone confirm if it is true or it is just some Telegram bullshit talk that Charles fucked Arthurs wife.