U.S. about to enter hyper deflation

[Anonymous No.16383650]

M2 Velocity

[Anonymous No.16383656]

M1 Velocity

[Anonymous No.16383687]

Explain for brainlet.

I thought we just entered QE4. Are the boomers taking their free FedBux and sitting on it?

[Anonymous No.16383693]

>>16383656
>>16383650
How can this be when the fed injects so much money?

[Anonymous No.16383733]

>implying I hold USD

[Anonymous No.16383734]

>>16383693
"If a hyperdeflation were to occur, it would have severe economic consequences as people would forgo making a purchase today when they know it will be much cheaper to buy it tomorrow, or the day after, or the day after—and so spending and investment will grind to a halt."

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hyperdeflation.asp

This is exactly what is happening. That is why the velocity is down....way down....

There was a good reason why they said Bitcoin was deflationary. It wasn't so much the crypto space itself it was the mindset it instilled among the people.

The Federal Reserve is injecting the money only so that the banks can GTFO before they revamp the system.

Universal Basic Income won't even save an unproductive lazy society at this point. Consider this the top transitioning over to the ride down.

The body printing machine is running on fumes.

[Anonymous No.16383739]

Post the equations. RUN THE NUMBERS YOU AUTIST

[Anonymous No.16383740]

>>16383734
They have a ways to ramp it up tho—look at japan

[Anonymous No.16383751]

>>16383650
You think central banks will allow it?

[Anonymous No.16383760]

>>16383734
>TFW OP is a LARPing Schizo

[Anonymous No.16383781]

>>16383740
Padding boomers retirement plans is not exactly "ramping it up". That is merely illusion management.

[Anonymous No.16383809]

>>16383734
What do you mean by "revamp the system"?

[Anonymous No.16383821]

>>16383751
They have reached the point where they will realize that they never really had control of this. Very similar to when you use a toxin on some insect population you are trying to exterminate for too long. Some become resistant.

Remember that more often than not an institution's strongest trait according to the masses is actually it's greatest weakness. Why do you think there is such a strong propaganda campaign to make them appear as the all mighty elite puppeting your life? You think that was orchestrated by an opposing side?

[Anonymous No.16383841]

Forgive a brainlet post, but if the purchasing power of the dollar increases exponentially overnight, would that also translate to an increase in bitcoins price? Or would bitcoin crash as one dollar could purchase significantly more bitcoin than the day before?

[Anonymous No.16383843]

Post M3

[Anonymous No.16383852]

>>16383809
Find the bubbles. Watch them pop. All things after will be an attempt to undo what caused them. In this case we are going back to a much earlier time. A homecoming if you will.

[Anonymous No.16383867]

>>16383841
Bitcoin has a problem of it's own completely independent of fiat valuation. Once the recession hits the trip downtown will be inescapable.

[Anonymous No.16383901]

>>16383843
Per the Fed
>M3 is no longer tracked by the Federal Reserve

Here is MZM Velocity. Looks to be following the same trend.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MZMV

[Anonymous No.16383921]

>>16383841
>Or would bitcoin crash
DotCom Bubble =Mortgage Bubble = Cryptocurrency Bubble

One in the same to the Fed. All patsies brewed up by common greed.

[Anonymous No.16383967]

>>16383650
Velocity is up because
>>16383693
>the fed injects so much money

Velocity of money stock is down because the FED pulling $1 trillion out by selling assets over the last 2 years.
And since 2008 the FED started robbing Americans in a totally new way by paying banks interest on excess reserves, nuts that it's barely mentioned. They won't slow down the $ printing soon.

[Anonymous No.16383993]

>>16383967
So what does this mean in the grand scheme of things, how bad will things get?

[Anonymous No.16384003]

So should I buy a starter house or wait?

[Anonymous No.16384029]

>>16383734
>hyperdeflation were to occur
The FED could just stop paying interest on excess reserves or even lower the rate closer to the "fed rate". The only way we hit hyper deflation is if the FED wants us to have it.

They do seem to like a strong dollar lately but hawks have lost in the fed since Greenspan was appointed by Reagan? I think.

[Anonymous No.16384065]

This is where people hoarding gold and silver will come out on top.

[Anonymous No.16384109]

>>16383993
It's too complicated to predict off one indicator. Will the FED lower rates? yeah, seems likely, might go negative. That's a plus for BTC, real estate and stocks. Sucks for bonds, 401k's and pensions.

Every other country is treating fiat like trade war weapon #1 by devaluing them. Trump wants a weaker dollar, the dems want to pump social programs, Bernie loves MMT economists. Fiat is hot potato and everyone has figured it out because of Japan, Singapore and China.

I think stocks are going to be the hardest hit the next downturn in the US, which will be the last country to turn south.

Companies like JP morgan keep buying back their own stock, that's why repo markets are dry. Banks don't want to lend to each other to buy a rivals stock.

Real estate should be protected if unemployment doesn't get real low. Millenials didn't get to buy the last dip because the banks got bailed out. They got lucky and got to keep the best real estate.

>>16384003
Where is a better question

[Anonymous No.16384124]

>>16384065
>hoarding gold and silver
not a bad option. JP morgan has the short term markets fucked on metals but holding the real stuff is smart at a lower % for most of us.

BTC takes a lot of metals do but improves in transport, storage, fungibility, accessibility, excitement, and is still in price discovery

[Anonymous No.16384143]

So ... people aren't buying shit.

How do a country makes them buy shit in the age of everyone having unlimited entertainment and knowledge acquiring capacity for pennies.

[Anonymous No.16384160]

>>16384109
I'm looking to buy my first residence. Under 200K, is it worth it to wait and see what the real estate market does as the FED self destructs or buy now to beat inflation? I know RE is a good hedge against inflation, but I can't see 200k homes being worth 500k... I actually think some homes will lose 30% value as credit dries up. What's your take?

[Anonymous No.16384161]

>>16383967
Velocity has been going down long before they started selling off assets.

M1 - since Mortgage (2008)
M2 - since DotCom (2001)
MZM - since Feds monetary policy (1980)

[Anonymous No.16384169]

>>16384143
>So ... people aren't buying shit.
>>16383650
>M2 Velocity
This says that the speed that money changes hands is getting slower

[Anonymous No.16384263]

>>16384065
literal fucking brainlet

[Anonymous No.16384266]

>>16384160
>I actually think some homes will lose 30% value as credit dries up. What's your take?
Yeah could play out. I think the last bailout saved real estate for a little because the banks picked the best defaults to keep. Then they packaged all the bad ones and sold them to the FED as MBS'. Millenials didn't get to buy much so they should give a floor. I do expect a dip, even BTC should if we crash in equities. Time it right but I think locality will be more important.Like if Amazon builds a huge shipment center and tesla a factory in Reno or some shit, values may climb despite a nation wide dip
>>16384161
>M1 - since Mortgage (2008)
checking accounts only
>M2 - since DotCom (2001)
mostly checking, and cash, bonds may be included
of course velocity is going down no one wants a checking account at 0.25 % interest and a monthly fee below $1,000 balances
Cash they're taking out too. They wan't it all on visa ledgers

You're pointing out the fucked up part of the feds and us govts policies, they give the banks the best rates and the money first to stay ahead of and pump thestock market. Fuck bonds, even though Social security is forced to hold them with excess funds, and boomers are retiring at record numbers. Give QE to the banks and CEO's for bonuses and buybacks

[Anonymous No.16384399]

>>16384109
>FIAT is a hot potato
Don't forget Germany in all this. They've been using and abusing the Euro, made it's entire worth dependent on America's ability to protect their own continent, and then let its own banking system fail buy making them bank honestly. I feel like all of Europe has had a hand in the steering wheel slowly pulling us off road and then playing stupid when we ask them.

[Anonymous No.16384433]

>>16383734
>This is exactly what is happening. That is why the velocity is down....way down....
Or maybe people are just holding onto cash because they expect a recession to happen.

[Anonymous No.16384446]

how i can blame trumpf for this???

[Anonymous No.16384488]

>>16383852
What does Spider-man have to do with this anon?

[Anonymous No.16384502]

>>16384446
"Trumpf did not nuke us, so now our economy sucks"

That works

[Anonymous No.16384598]

>>16383867
Delete this immediately

[Anonymous No.16384652]

>>16383734
Schizo doomposting is getting old. I used to believe this shit, but really it's all so tiresome now.

[Anonymous No.16384996]

>>16383734
took met like 2 sentences before I understood that you are a literal insane shitposter.
Please never talk to me or my board again

[Anonymous No.16385190]

So I'm guessing now is a bad time to be buying a house

[Anonymous No.16386058]

>>16384996
Begone NPC

[Anonymous No.16386088]

it must be hard being you.

[Anonymous No.16386113]

>>16384266
>You're pointing out the fucked up part of the feds and us govts policies

And don't think for a second that crypto is immune from this. One could easily argue that crypto itself was born from the 08 recession literally. All that zero percent easy money going into all things crypto. The 2019/2020 recession will be the fall out of the digital monetary world as it is now clearly running on fumes.

Bitcoin velocity following suit as price went up but velocity went down. Can't wait to hear the "store of value" arguments.

https://charts.woobull.com/bitcoin-velocity/

[Anonymous No.16386153]

>>16385190
>basing your investment choice on a shizo boyo on an anonymous mongolian horse trading card board.
You sir, you really deserve to stay poor.

[Anonymous No.16386202]

>>16386153
The data is all there. You can choose to ignore it but that won't make it go away. While it is possible that they may inflate the housing market "again" it would be wise to pay attention to the numbers. The fallout from a digital reality check will be widespread. Waiting to buy a house until the dust settles may yield the best prices for those with a little patience.

[Anonymous No.16386246]

>>16384598
That chart should be a wakeup call to anyone still balls deep in crypto. When the hardware disappears the software will cease to exist.

Being out of phase only means your not in lockstep with reality.

[Anonymous No.16386276]

>>16383734
Wow sounds like wow just sounds as if the kikes are going to die along the usury which is forbiden by any major religion except theirs. Based reality BTFOing the banking jews once again.

[Anonymous No.16386308]

https://www.schwab.com/resource-center/insights/content/does-market-timing-work

this is about stocks, but real estate isn't far off from that. Obviously shit like rent (opportunity costs), loan, interest rates etc. have to be taken in account too

Everyone has to make his own decision, but when it comes to investments /biz/ is the worst one. When it comes to the majority here, ppl talked you out since 2015, because meh bubble is popping.

I totally agree with you on your PV on cryptos >>16386246

[Anonymous No.16386335]

state of schizo doomposters lmao

go outside and stop reading zerohedge 24/7

[Anonymous No.16386385]

>>16386246
>When the hardware disappears
https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/47717/two-firms-merge-to-open-100-acre-bitcoin-mining-farm-in-texas-with-a-capacity-of-one-gigawatt

iirc a new one was announced in siberia as well recently. people are pouring money into mining. it's not going anywhere you coping nocoiner.

[Anonymous No.16386506]

>>16386385
people saying that shit are fucking redtarded

inefficient miners get absolutely fucking JUST'D is how the system works

[Anonymous No.16386512]

>>16386506
peter thiel is building a mining operation in west texas where energy costs sometimes go negative

[Anonymous No.16386546]

>>16383734
UBI would save it because money velocity increases by measures of magnitude when retail spenders have money. If you notice your chart has low velocity near WW2 when wealth inequality was at a similar level.

Not a socialist and also don't think that money velocity matters very much outside of int. companies conducting int. business but that is the common remedy to the "issue" that you presented.

[Anonymous No.16386554]

>>16386385
>he likes cybertrucks too

Software bag holders chase price
Hardware bag holders chase mining

Both in for the upcoming global recession.

If you prefer feel good propaganda over factual statistics then I wish you good luck.

[Anonymous No.16386564]

>>16383734
I can't tell if you know how to interpret the graph.
>>16383734
Judging from what you said here, I think what you're really meaning to say is this:
"There's going to be a recession"
People are going to be spending less and people will need to lower prices in order to entice buyers, this may also have an effect on manufacturing costs in China if they really want to keep cash flow coming in. Because they might be willing to reduce manufacturing costs.

Also
>The body printing machine is running on fumes.
Yes, naturally 1st world countries should have declining populations which would also create a deflationary economic environment. Although we're all aware that the bankers wanted more people so there would be spending in more competition to keep housing prices and property values up. Big money landlords is the reason why it's a priority for 1st world countries to have steady population growth, otherwise rents would lower over time.

[Anonymous No.16386582]

>>16386546
UBI is a patch to capitalism that allows for automation. It is the opposite of communism.

[Anonymous No.16386589]

>>16383967
>Waves
I see you are a man of culture as well.

[Anonymous No.16386596]

>>16384109
>Banks don't want to lend to each other to buy a rivals stock.
What about the possible insolvency issue

[Anonymous No.16386604]

>>16386546
>Premined crypto with 100x pumps

Basically selective UBI. 10 years going and velocity smiled and laughed. I hope you wake up soon.

Even BTC velocity mimicking the deflationary spiral. There is no escaping the drain.

[Anonymous No.16386622]

>>16386113
The thing that made me sell was realizing that Jan 2018 was a top for the stock market, and Dec 2018 was a bottom for it.

Guess what else was?

[Anonymous No.16386626]

>>16386582
I didn't say that it was, I was just pointing out to OP that he doesn't understand that corporations and banks hold most of the money right now and don't spend it where as retail spenders quickly spend their money in relative terms so something like UBI or a tax rebate is helpful.

[Anonymous No.16386628]

>>16383650
So money is worthless, stocks and bitcoin are fucked. What would you invest in? The only reasonable answer is BSV. Miners paid for txs.

[Anonymous No.16386639]

During inflation is your money safer in stocks or in a savings account?
Or gold?

[Anonymous No.16386645]

>>16386604
There is more traded BTC monthly than active BTC so your assessment is too rudimentary. Derivatives and actively moving already released supply are factors.

Also, BTC has a high inflation rate currently so you are talking about pricing in something that is well outside of any personal or corporate planning.

[Anonymous No.16386649]

>>16383650
"HURRY HIRAM, PRINT MORE GOOD GOY POINTS BEFORE JESUS COMES BA--AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH"

[Anonymous No.16386669]

>>16386645
Obviously referencing other posts by you here too. I'm at work or I would cite, sorry.

I do think that you are right about most of this, there are just other layers to be considered in secondary markets like crypto or stocks outside of the dominant trading pairs status.

[Anonymous No.16386697]

>>16386649
would Jesus kill the jews if he came back today?

[Anonymous No.16386877]

>>16386512
anon made that post in march 2018 about 'people compianing about energy use will have more cheap energy than they know what to do with" and that really changed my perspective

POW is a gift to mankind. It is the most direct way to transition humans into efficient energy production as a matter of economic certainty.

[Anonymous No.16387037]

>>16384065
You mean LINK anon, precious metals holders will be 2nd.

[Anonymous No.16387123]

>>16386697
He won't have to, that's why the antichrist will be a thing. To do the job and get blamed for the dirty work.

[Anonymous No.16387144]

>>16386877
But what if energy is free? What happens to POW then?

[Anonymous No.16387196]

>>16383921
so we are gonna be fucking rich
just look at tech stocks and house prices

[Anonymous No.16387208]

>>16387144
Hardware and software will continue to improve.

[Anonymous No.16387210]

>>16383867
the peak is where you will fix your rope
see you in 2021

[Anonymous No.16387219]

>>16387208
Why would they have that incentive?

[Anonymous No.16387244]

>>16387219
You get more hashs per unit of space you have , not to mention the temperatures will be easier to manage.

[Anonymous No.16387260]

>>16387244
Fair enough. What happens when all btc is mined? Hpw often will devs have to update the protocol for everyone to stay incentivized?

[Anonymous No.16387302]

>>16383650
It needs to turn upwards first. Then the hyperinflation train can leave the station.

[Anonymous No.16387357]

>>16387144
>energy is free
there will never be such a thing as "too much energy". We may have times where our energy production dwarfs our usage (if the US Navy released their fusion tech we'd be having this now but it's not profitable for them to do so), but our usage will always grow to match our production, which will include cryptomining

[Anonymous No.16387362]

>>16387357
Well of course as long as (((they))) are in control then it won't. They will not be in control forever.

[Anonymous No.16387404]

>>16387362
There are assholes abusing the system right now but certain laws of economics that are very real

[Anonymous No.16387480]

>>16387260
Miners then get paid the transaction fees.

[Anonymous No.16387584]

>>16387260
Minig shifts to transactions and fees. It's a change on how to operate using the very same model that it always was.

[Anonymous No.16387675]

>>16383867
>>16383921
Let me guess. You're a boomer holding shiny rocks.

[Anonymous No.16387688]

>>16383650
Nothing has changed in policy since the days of helicopter Ben. They will fucking drop cash on wall street and then on main street before they allow deflation.

[Anonymous No.16387779]

>>16383650
>>16383656
Sounds like there's a lot of money waiting to be spent

[Anonymous No.16387795]

>>16386669
I was going to make a similar comment but you did it for me, so thanks. OP clearly has a solid understanding of real economics but for some reason has a blind spot to BTC. The counterarguments to his bearish stance on BTC have already been made and are based on strong, unchallenged logic but his responses to them seem to be ego-defensive. It just seems for some undetermined reason he has already decided against crypto and wont self-challenge his views on it.

[Anonymous No.16387802]

>>16387688
>allow deflation
Again you are granting them power they don't have. Deflation is already here and they know it. The Fed's own charts state as much.

What happens when you add a drop of pure concentrated food coloring to a small glass of water? You dilute the color. Now what happens when you add that same amount of concentrated food coloring to lets say a lake? Not a damn thing. The printing continues to have less and less of an effect on the economy. Selective UBI crypto basically proved the top is in. Hence the stock indices going parabolic right now. You can't create when you are no longer based. Never worked in the past and won't work now. Only one way back home now.

[Anonymous No.16387834]

>>16387675
>Let me guess. You're a boomer holding shiny rocks.
This seems like a possibility for the reason I alluded to >>16387795 here. OP understands the issue with inflationary govt manipulation but is very resistant to the strengths of crypto for one reason or another. Glad to see at least some others recognize the reality of both.

[Anonymous No.16387867]

>>16387802
Hello OP, I agree with most of your view on the broader economy but why are you so unable to directly address the logically made counterarguments to your bearish BTC stance? Honest question, is it because you are a boomer who doesn't understand the tech? Heavily committed to precious metals? Or did your stocks go up a lot and now you can't challenge your ego because of the S&P growth?

[Anonymous No.16387885]

>>16387802
If printing does not have an effect on the value of your currency, deflation will not be your problem.

[Anonymous No.16388233]

>>16387834
>>16387867
Why have none of you mentioned tether and its relation to the current price of btc? Honestly, I'd expect to see sub 100 dollar btc during a financial crises before we see $100k btc.

[Anonymous No.16388266]

>>16386697
Would jesus kill his own people? No

[Anonymous No.16388288]

>>16387144
Then hardqare gets better and mining power increases exponentially. But energy will always have a cost. Everything has a limited supply.

[Anonymous No.16388326]

>>16383650


>>16383650
People are too dependent on sugar to ever stop consuming

[Anonymous No.16388347]

>>16388233
Btc already fell 87% from the top and alt coins have started mooning. The biggest crash btc ever had was a 94% fall during the most volotile time in history. Everyone is bearish on btc even though the market cycles chart says we are in disbelief. How much farther can a market which has already crashed fall? The weakest hands have already left the space. Only the crypto believers are left.

[Anonymous No.16388534]

>>16388347
I'd disagree. We've barely capitulated.

[Anonymous No.16388559]

>>16383867
can't make sense of boomer wizdum

[Anonymous No.16388603]

>Born too late to explore the earth
>Born too early to explore the stars
>Born just in time to fight in World War III, which will decide the global hierarchy for centuries to come
See you cunts on the frontlines

[Anonymous No.16389058]

>>16388534
Then you weren't here in december 2017 or 2015. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Most biz posts are btc fud and fyd about other coins. I have seen posts about suicide hotlines on crypto reddit multiple times already. If 3.1k really wasn't the bottom then why are certain alts multiplying in value instead of crashing

[Anonymous No.16389130]

>>16386113
When usd collapses we will be forced to trade in btcs

[Anonymous No.16389140]

>>16386246
>Being out of phase only means your not in lockstep with reality.

why do schizos always use colorful phrases like this

[Anonymous No.16389880]

Bump, kikes trying to slide.

[Anonymous No.16390056]

Bamp

[Anonymous No.16390175]

>>16383687
The boomers are terrified of the chad crypto milenials go check when the monetary base peaked.

Protip it also was the best week for crypto.

[Anonymous No.16390515]

>>16386639
funs n grub

[Anonymous No.16390549]

>>16387404
And thermodynamics that translates into real world events

[Anonymous No.16390750]

>>16383734
>>16384433
this is much more likely

[Anonymous No.16390779]

>>16383867
The hashrate has always been dynamic with ups and downs

[Anonymous No.16391322]

>>16388603
lol no

[Anonymous No.16391585]

>>16383733
Checked, USD is a scam

[Anonymous No.16391605]

>>16383650
B-b-butmuh hyperinflation

[Anonymous No.16391619]

>>16383693
Debt repayment destroys money

[Anonymous No.16391665]

>>16383650
>>16383656
>>16383734
>>16383751
>>16383901
>>16383967
>>16384109
>>16384161
>>16384266
>>16386113
>>16386308
>>16391585
>>16391605
SATOSHI TERRIFIED THE BOG IN DECEMBER 2017!!!!!

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/BOGMBASE

[Anonymous No.16391668]

>>16391585
It's not that it's a scam
It's more like it's just Monopoly money. It's not real.
Your green papers are literally just debt. Read them.

[Schiff Will Win !!L6zziHG8/KZ No.16391690]

>>16383734
high IQ
shills will say not to buy PM's and that the banks are hoarding PM's for no reason
)))we((( know what true money is

[Schiff Will Win !!L6zziHG8/KZ No.16391726]

>>16390175
kek this is the average late adopting retard that thinks he'll become a millionaire off pixels.
crypto will dump first in a financial collapse
NSA made bitcoin for the easiest pump and dump ever

[Anonymous No.16391757]

oh look more btc fud. casually buys more and hodls. fuck off kikes. crypto is going to out perform all stocks and indexes by 100x by 2025.

[Anonymous No.16391799]

>>16386335
DER DOOMER COOMER GANG
FUCK YOU, FREN
WE GONNA CRASH THIS MARKET - WITH NO SURVIVORS

[Anonymous No.16391809]

>>16386697
What is WWII?

[Anonymous No.16391821]

>>16386697

[Anonymous No.16391853]

>>16383867
Hash collapse mean nothing dumbass. Difficulty goes down, clever miners buy cheap hardware that stupid miners liquidate and the competition for hash self-corrects

[Schiff Will Win !!L6zziHG8/KZ No.16391876]

>>16391757
nice try shill we know you NSA glownigger kikes created this vaporware ponzi

[Anonymous No.16391902]

>>16391726
The bogs fear satoshi

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/BOGMBASE

>>/biz/thread/S430845#p431216

[Anonymous No.16391914]

>>16387802
Hello, Q!
GLad youR baCk!!!! We needed this
So CLever n RouFGH AroUnd the EdgEs. JUst RIght!

-Sent from Ms. Betsy's unruly iPhone

[Anonymous No.16392468]

>>16391876
ugh...
dude, you actually seem sort of smart sometimes
you have to know security a isn't same as glows

[Anonymous No.16392484]

[Anonymous No.16392610]

>>16392484
harsh but fair

[Anonymous No.16392928]

>stonkmarket hits ath
>for the next 15 years

/biz cries dem salty af tears

[Anonymous No.16393141]

>>16383734
Deflation is a keynesian boogieman, it's the natural state of money

[Anonymous No.16393483]

>>16383760

What kind of name of is Max Resdefault? Must be a frenchie

[Anonymous No.16394208]

>>16388559
It will all become very clear when you finally realize that money isn't moving. This is an indicator of something much larger than you can accept. With crypto velocity following suit it is safe to say the top is in. Hope you fall on the right side of this. Data doesn't lie. Now is not the time to let investment ideology take over your rational brain.

Think about it:

-people hoarding since beginning of last recession
-selective UBI 100x crypto pumps
-All velocity charts showing a slow down
-Hashrate in a bubble
-Employment numbers all time high
-Stock indices all time high
-debt levels higher than 2008

Can you hear that sucking sound?

[Anonymous No.16394265]

>>16383650
OKAY CHICKEN LITTLE

https://blog.commonwealth.com/independent-market-observer/the-velocity-of-money-2019-edition

We will never see "hyper deflation". But you keep thinking you know what you're looking at here.

[Anonymous No.16394271]

>>16391726
terrified boomer who owns real estate on margin detected

[Anonymous No.16394274]

>>16394208
Based schizoboomerposter

[Anonymous No.16394279]

>>16394208
Economic crash with few survivors. >Interest rates will go back to norm 2022
>absolutely BTFO anyone with debt causing mass poverty and bankruptcy
>housing market collapses due to no buyers
>companies that are over leveraged fire most employees
>women and nogs fired because they just do service jobs
>food prices skyrocket as factory farms with high debt have to sell land and assets which cannot be purchased
>global recession and rioting in every major city
>cryptoanons and shiny rock stackers able to survive and purchase assets at all time low.

It’s crashing anons, and shit is going to be nuts. Good luck to all of you.

[Anonymous No.16394289]

>>16391821
that's cringe
>>16388266
based

[Anonymous No.16394300]

>>16383650
Have you seen prices come down from circa 1997 to today?
protip you haven't and velocity of money stock is a bullshit measure for inflation

[Anonymous No.16394324]

>>16383734
>"If a hyperdeflation were to occur, it would have severe economic consequences as people would forgo making a purchase today when they know it will be much cheaper to buy it tomorrow, or the day after, or the day after—and so spending and investment will grind to a halt."
the bullshittest of all assumption and more proof to the fact that economic theory is braintlet tier retarded
>if fridge goes kaput today, you need a replacement tomorrow regardless of price

[Anonymous No.16394341]

>>16394208
>Employment numbers all time high

I would love to hear the explanation as to why all things tech are not going to be affected when the employment bubble pops. Considering that all things industrial have fallen by the wayside in comparison it is going to be comical to hear how tech is immune from cyclical economic norms.

[Anonymous No.16394354]

>>16394208
>Stock indices all time high
Anything tied to digital bucks is going down with this and many others. RUNNING ON FUMES.

[Anonymous No.16394382]

>>16394208
>inb4 DOW 40k+

[Anonymous No.16394387]

>>16387675
They will never get it.
By USD-gold decoupling, not only dollar went down, but also the fucking gold.
It lost a major utility of its own.
Gold was valuable because it backed dollar. Now it's not much different than any other shiny rock. Yeah institution's accumulate, but only as a hedge.
The future is heading towards cashless and contactless currency, which apparently isn't gold.

[Anonymous No.16394403]

>>16388603
Sure thing shlomo. Just went to 100k frontlines

[Anonymous No.16394422]

>>16387867
>unable to directly address the logically made counterarguments to your bearish BTC stance

Hashrate and energy consumption

Energy consumption (macro)
Hashrate (micro)

Go ahead and explain to me how hashrate is not tied to electricity consumption. Then explain to me how electricity consumption is not tied to energy consumption. Then explain to me how energy consumption is not tied to the long term global population chart. Then explain to me how we are not in the everything bubble.

Bonus question: Explain the interesting relationship between crypto and the electricity producers.

AC = Meth

[Anonymous No.16394429]

>>16394387
>Gold was valuable because it backed dollar.

[Anonymous No.16394435]

>>16394382
DOW = 33K
S&P = 3.3K
Nasdaq = 10K

Then pop. All things weak in tech go belly up and everyone comes running back home.

[Anonymous No.16394444]

>>16394265
>We will never see "hyper deflation".
You really have no idea just how strong this thing is going to get do you?

[Anonymous No.16394469]

>>16394429
As I've said, you'll never get it. It's a pretty offbeat point of view, not fitting neither the mainstream or controlled goyposition narratives. Which is why you should consider it.
It's a triad of gold+ industrial complex+central bank (currency).
Gold being dropped from the equation is bearish for gold. Compare gold price with real estate or tech stocks, rather than usd.

[Anonymous No.16394528]

>>16394300
One could also argue that prices are a bullshit measure for inflation. Why?

-Stocks are manipulated
-Commodities are manipulated
-Basically all things digital manipulated by greed

So you can't have it both ways. Either markets are real and accurately depict supply and demand or they are manipulated. If you pick the former then yes inflation is real and someone is hiding it. If you pick the latter then inflation is man made and no one can really answer the question.

Therefore inflation and greed go hand in hand. Regardless, money velocity has slowed way down and BTC velocity chart follows suit which proves the Fed chart is most likely accurate.

[Anonymous No.16394590]

>>16394387
>Now it's not much different than any other shiny rock.

Note the production level increase after the decoupling. Now explain it to me.

[Anonymous No.16394731]

Le great habbening any day now

[Anonymous No.16394739]

>>16394528
>-Stocks are manipulated
>-Commodities are manipulated
>-Basically all things digital manipulated by greed
All of these points can be true and not true at the same time. It all depends of your individual definition of "manipulation."
I came to the conclusion that economic theories, finance and most everything on this planet is based on man-made doctrines of preferred human behaviour; made up by man himself; enforced by himself; inherited unquestioned through memetics and perpetuated unquestioned.
Everything's fucked so I actually couldn't care less about perceived "manipulation" anymore.

[Anonymous No.16394813]

>>16394435
Y at these numbers tho?

[Anonymous No.16395132]

>>16383867
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[Anonymous No.16395759]

>>16394590
Once again > just like any other rock
Steel after decoupling
Palladium, Platinum etc etc

[Anonymous No.16396169]

>>16383734
>the virgin keynesian fears the chad deflationary currency
let their shit system implode already my body is ready
dont know about crypto only time will tell but I do know about PM and my stack keeps growing with every passing day