/smg/ - Stock Market General Thread

[Anonymous No.16811853]

Dick's Pizza edition

List of popular brokers:
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List of basic stock market terminology:
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ

Risk management:
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp

Real-time market news:
https://thefly.com/index.php

Live Bloomberg stream:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html

Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

Free charting tools:
http://www.tradingview.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.finscreener.com/

Stock screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener

Pre-Market Data and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

Pump and Dump Advertising:
https://stocktwits.com

Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) calculator:
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

Basic rundown on lean hogs:
http://www.theoptionsguide.com/lean-hogs-futures-buying.aspx

List of hedge fund holdings:
https://fintel.io/

>>16807229

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16811895]

Reposting here:
I put together this new economic model that predicts recessions. We're in for a rough 2020.

For those interested in how it works: https://bunkermundo.wordpress.com/2020/01/07/practical-econophysics-predicting-the-next-recession/

[Anonymous No.16811912]

>>16811853
>GOLDMAN SACHS WOULD NEVER TELL US ONE THING WHILE KNOWING/DOING ANOTHER. RIGHT GUYS? THEY'RE A GREAT AMERICAN FINANCIAL INSTITUTION THAT WE CAN TRUST. RIGHT GUYS?

My finger is on the trigger. The target? Bearish ETFs, Gold, and Bitcoin just in case.

[Anonymous No.16811921]

#pizzagateisreal

[Anonymous No.16811936]

>>16811921
Came here to post this

[Anonymous No.16811961]

>>16811895
This is interesting mate. Will read this tonight. 2020 is going to wake a lot of people up. I love the euphoria of the markets at current time, but I'm usually the first one to leave a party once I sense that things are getting too degenerate for my liking.

Let's just say that the hostess is on top of a table showing her lady bits whilst dancing and is about get naked and do keg stands in front on the guests.

[Anonymous No.16811969]

>The Western industry has diverted the ancient traditions of the other Cultures. The streams of economic life move towards the seats of King Coal and the great regions of raw material. Nature becomes exhausted, the globe
sacrificed to Faustian thinking in energies. The working earth is the Faustian aspect of her, the aspect contemplated by the Faust of Part II, the supreme transfiguration of enterprising work — and contemplating, he dies. Nothing is so utterly antipodal to the motionless satiate being of the Classical Empire. It is the engineer who is remotest from the Classical law-thought, and he will see to it that his economy has its own law, wherein forces and efficiencies will take the place of Person and Thing. But titanic, too, is the onslaught of money upon this intellectual force. Industry, too, is earth-bound like the yeoman. It has its station, and its materials stream up out of the earth. Only high finance is wholly free, wholly intangible. Since 1789 the banks, and with them the bourses, have developed themselves on the credit-needs of an industry growing ever more enormous, as a power on their own account, and they will (as money wills in every Civilization) to be the only power. The ancient wrestle between the productive and the acquisitive economies intensifies now into a silent gigantomachy of intellects, fought out in the lists of the world-cities. This battle is the despairing struggle of technical thought to maintain its liberty against money-thought.

What did Spergler mean by this?

[Anonymous No.16811976]

>The Western industry has diverted the ancient traditions of the other Cultures. The streams of economic life move towards the seats of King Coal and the great regions of raw material. Nature becomes exhausted, the globe sacrificed to Faustian thinking in energies. The working earth is the Faustian aspect of her, the aspect contemplated by the Faust of Part II, the supreme transfiguration of enterprising work — and contemplating, he dies. Nothing is so utterly antipodal to the motionless satiate being of the Classical Empire. It is the engineer who is remotest from the Classical law-thought, and he will see to it that his economy has its own law, wherein forces and efficiencies will take the place of Person and Thing. But titanic, too, is the onslaught of money upon this intellectual force. Industry, too, is earth-bound like the yeoman. It has its station, and its materials stream up out of the earth. Only high finance is wholly free, wholly intangible. Since 1789 the banks, and with them the bourses, have developed themselves on the credit-needs of an industry growing ever more enormous, as a power on their own account, and they will (as money wills in every Civilization) to be the only power. The ancient wrestle between the productive and the acquisitive economies intensifies now into a silent gigantomachy of intellects, fought out in the lists of the world-cities. This battle is the despairing struggle of technical thought to maintain its liberty against money-thought.

What did Spergler mean by this?

[Anonymous No.16811978]

>>16811895
gommie is back! Yaya!
I still haven't read Louis "choke me daddy" Althusser yet, but I will one day!

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16811993]

>>16811978
eyy, it's good to be back.

And you should! he's the best.

[Anonymous No.16812019]

>>16811976
Mephistopholes essentially invents usury in Faust, the alchemical process is inseparable from banking and flows of capital :O
Spengle got proved wrong again and again about the 20th century, maybe he'll be right about this one kekkies

[Anonymous No.16812034]

Will tomorrow be the day? Will the shackles of SNSS, GALT, AMRN, ONTX be lifted?

[Anonymous No.16812083]

>>16812034
Tomorrow is saturday so probably not

[Anonymous No.16812129]

>>16811921

No one was going to take that faggot shit seriously from the start or ever with a name like “pizza gate”

[Anonymous No.16812148]

>>16812034
Yes, everything will enter golden bull-mode tomorrow without a doubt

[Anonymous No.16812206]

>>16812034

Ontx wasn’t a buy and hold and if you did you fucked all up. Same with amrn. You buy shit like that when it’s hot and get the fuck out with a bit of profit before you get burned.

[Anonymous No.16812368]

>>16811895
Remember the feet pics

[Anonymous No.16812428]

>after two weeks, Schwab FINALLY acknowledges that I'm a real human boy with a beating heart and cash and the ability to pick a penny stock without the world ending
>up 67 WHOLE cents from my first day with all my powers unlocked
Do I just quit my job now?

[Anonymous No.16812522]

>>16812428
Then where would you get the money to add to your stock collection?

[Anonymous No.16812650]

>>16812034
Pray for a Monday miracle.
>On Monday, the annual JP Morgan healthcare conference kicks off in San Francisco. It is widely viewed as the sector's most important investor event. JP Morgan said it expects more than 400 companies to present at this year's gathering, with Merck, Johnson & Johnson and Biogen among the companies due to present on Monday.
>The conference, which historically has provided heavy news flow, could be an opportunity for the sector to start 2020 with momentum, after it gained 18.7% in 2019, lagging the S&P 500's nearly 29% increase.

Umbasa.

[Anonymous No.16812657]

>>16812129
It wasn't "faggot shit" though you stupid bastard

[Anonymous No.16812671]

CNBC was putting in serious effort all Friday to cool the market. Anyone have any idea why?

[Anonymous No.16812686]

>people are still here after market close
losers

[Anonymous No.16812705]

ONTX has upcoming good news that will drive the stock higher. Another similar bio company, ADXS got good news just like ONTX and it's stock price shot up to 1.3. Armistice capital owns 30% of ontx stock. So someone there must see good things ahead.

[Anonymous No.16812718]

>>16812671
Biz media is trash and you will be less stressed out and trade better if you pay no attention to it. Only worthwhile news is material information from the companies and policy based stuff from the government.

[Anonymous No.16812730]

>>16812718
I don't trade on it at all.

[Anonymous No.16812741]

>>16812730
Even so. That noise will worm its way in to your brain if you continue to expose yourself to it.

[Anonymous No.16812793]

>>16811895
Well, remember that the yield curve inverted last year for a while. So even though Wall Street has short memories, there's reason to think there will be a recession completely independent of the model.

[Anonymous No.16812798]

>>16812705
the 52w high of ontx is 4.82. I daresay when the good news hits it won't have any problem hitting that mark again. At 4 a share I'd have over 48,000. I'd take 48,000 in a heartbeat. No tax issues to fuck with either till 2021.

[Anonymous No.16812817]

>>16811921

Remember that dude who walked into comet ping pong with a gun and got arrested because he believed the memes.

[Anonymous No.16812837]

>>16812741
I trade on nothing.

- Index, Index Futures values
- Stock Value
- Nearest Stock to it's valuation
- Quarterly reports / all news

I might glance at PE or something like that. rest is extrapolation and CNBC allows for a lot of automatic extrapolation. It's just a datapoint stream, esp CNBC world

My shit is uber simple.

[Anonymous No.16812840]

>>16812817
It wasn't just memes
It's well known throughout history what the kikes get up to, beyond just pedos

[Anonymous No.16812888]

>>16812837
>not trading based on the ticker symbols you like most

[Anonymous No.16812921]

So next week: I anticipate mostly green. China might blow up the trade deal but will probably do so on the backside with internal corruption and just not buying shit if they do. Also them being at the table means things are looking worse than they let on internally.

next week ER is financials which should be okay-ish given they are probably all insider trading off their asses and the stocks are up

Can remain risky bullish through next week with better than even odds of success

[Anonymous No.16812927]

>Iran: yes we murdered a plane full of civilian on that commercial, non military airplane. Everyone makes mistakes.

>>16812671
>The worst thing that clients and investors can do, with the market at present levels, is pull the plug and go underweight equities.

Phones being shit, but it’s one of the most recent videos posted on CNBC

[Anonymous No.16812932]

Iran admits to ‘unintentionally’ shooting down Ukrainian airliner, blames ‘human error’

[Anonymous No.16813004]

>>16812932
Ah yes the ol "my twitter account was hacked" excuse

[Anonymous No.16813006]

>>16811853
just gonna leave this here. Some Penny Stocks with nice charts for people to take a look and maybe do some swings next week.

[Anonymous No.16813014]

>>16812932

Can't wait until they have nukes

[Anonymous No.16813017]

>>16812932
Iran:
>everybody make mistake
Canada:
>no worries! Everyone makes mistakes!
Ukraine:
>*looks at Russia for directions*

[Anonymous No.16813148]

>>16812932
Yep. I did a bit of a junior detective dive on that because I have a background in aeronautics and was curious. The data cutting off suddenly without drop in air speed or altitude made me immediately think outside forces going on. Of course the plane being shot down wasn't in doubt once governments started weighing in their assessment. As for intentional or accidental, I was leaning accidental to begin with given the way SAM systems work on a basic level (they're semi-automated). Say you've got jet flying over and your stuff is set to go rocket boom on account of the festivities early in the evening, somebody screws up in the plane, or at airport ATC, or the SAM operator, the plane does not get identified as commercial for whatever reason, missile launches. Iran will have to kick in some apology bucks to Ukraine for the trouble. No war starting over this. Not unless somebody can prove definitively that the SAM launch was intentional knowing the nature of the aircraft.

[Anonymous No.16813311]

>>16812837
biz media is brain poison

[Anonymous No.16813439]

>>16811895
>econophysics
dude
come on

[Anonymous No.16813522]

It's going to get extremely uncomfortable cold this week starting tomorrow. I propose a protective insulated dome be built over the entire city. This is the right way to go. Or perhaps a series of large fans set up on the northern end of city to blow that bullshit cold northerly air away.

[Anonymous No.16813556]

Why wont Ford go under $9 already?

[Anonymous No.16813630]

Is anyone else excited for taxes? I got my W-2 this week and picked up my copy of TurboTax Premier from Costco. I'm hoping to get started with what documents I have so far in this weekend.

[Anonymous No.16813663]

>>16813439
>Mfw while reading it
Some of it was sound while most of it went into the academic gobbly gook realm. The quote "To a man with a hammer everything looks like a nail" comes to mind as this work is a prime example of someone wanting to see things through the lens of the expertise they possess when there really is no need to.

[Anonymous No.16813675]

>>16812817
Yea that day the street cameras just happened to turn and face away from the entrance then the only shot he fired happened to hit Comet Ping Pongs server.

[Anonymous No.16813701]

>>16813630
No. I hate it. Every year I hate it.

[Anonymous No.16813913]

>>16812650
>AMRN to $100

[Anonymous No.16813943]

How you y'all feel about Nokia?
I think trump did a deal with them and finland.

[Anonymous No.16814241]

Dick's should sell a combo meal deal of pizza, side, and drink, packed in to a bag for delivery and take out. Call it Dick's Big Bag. Treat yourself this weekend to a Bag of Dicks.

[Anonymous No.16814321]

>>16811853
Did he do anything bigger companies aren't doing?

[Anonymous No.16814599]

How accurate do you think is the DIX?
GME has a massively positive DIX for more than a year now. Let's say dark pools are really buying GME then their average price must be shit. That doesn't seem very smart. Might be that they're investors and not traders but still... . Same goes for TruMoo($DF)...they accumuated right into bankruptcy. Was TruMoo really a good play but with an unfortunate end? Is the DIX wrong? Does high short interest distort the DIX?

[Anonymous No.16814612]

>>16812741
this anon gets it. I used to listen to that trash while trading. Thought it didn't influence me. It did. I'm far more profitable in the silence or music in my office, watching price action, volume, and a basic bitch news ticker.

[Anonymous No.16814623]

>>16812718
True. Browsing stocktwits fucked up my returns even though I was only there to poke at some delusion bubbles.

[Anonymous No.16814810]

How do you guys know when to fucking sell a stock. Been sitting on one for a while and last summer it finally went up to about +80% in performance. Didn't sell it and then it fell again and it's now back at 10%.

[Anonymous No.16814814]

>>16812718
I watch it for the hot blondies

[Anonymous No.16814842]

$CORV short interest doubled. Maybe bad news incoming?

[Anonymous No.16814963]

>>16814810
It depends I guess. I'm having similar issues right now, this is what I've decided to do:

If it's a stonk I particularly believe in, has strong fundamentals, has already been through a very good increase in value cycle, is not going back down but crabbing and I happen to hold good positions, I'll hodl for a few years. Shit like this can moon eventually and maybe make 10x. This is what happened to people who bought and hold stuff like amazon, microsoft, apple, amd at the right positions.

If it's a meme stonk that mooned, sell and get the fuck out ASAP.

If it's a "mature" stonk and you got in a couple few months ago, like, for example, KO, if it goes upward for a little bit, sell and get the fuck out. You're not going to see unbelievable returns in the mid/long term.

If you're into swing trading, sell it once it hits target profit, no exceptions allowed.

[Anonymous No.16814997]

>iran downed the plane with a stray missile
Lmao

[Anonymous No.16815001]

Boeing mooning monday?

[Anonymous No.16815015]

>>16814810
Always have a trading plan before you open a position.
Set stop loss and profit take targets.
A less experienced mechanical approach is taking 1/4 at 20% green dildo > move stop loss into profit > 1/4 at 40% profit > 1/4 at 60% > and let the rest run .
Your first priority is minimizing risk to capital > profit.

[Anonymous No.16815031]

>>16815015

>A less experienced mechanical approach is taking 1/4 at 20% green dildo > move stop loss into profit > 1/4 at 40% profit > 1/4 at 60% > and let the rest run .

wait, what? I'm a bit hungover atm, could you give a practical example of that?

[Anonymous No.16815068]

>>16811895
gommie haven't seen you in like a year, how did your portfolio do last quarter?

[Anonymous No.16815249]

>>16815001
Why would it?

[Anonymous No.16815268]

>>16815249
It won't. The tailspin continues.
You can't just flip CEOs and fix a company with a rotten core in a year or two. They're fucced. That being said, maybe their non-core businesses, things that aren't passenger planes, will be able to keep them treading water while they completely re-tool.

[Anonymous No.16815290]

>>16815249
I thought the last dip was because people assumed the crash was due to a technical failure but it now turns out it was iran

[Anonymous No.16815316]

>>16811976
Spengler is like if marx was severely retarded

[Anonymous No.16815377]

>>16812657

Then they shouldn’t of gave it a faggot name

[Anonymous No.16815386]

>>16812705
>>16812798

You sound like the amrn fags. If it’s too good to be true it probably isn’t

[Anonymous No.16815398]

>>16815386
....

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16815409]

>>16812793
Oh sure, I'd put more weight on the yield curve just because it's proven to work after it was discovered. Who knows my model may have been over fitted.

[german !!98W/2pOFkik No.16815413]

>>16811464
negative yielding debt with no future is less than worthless

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16815415]

>>16815068
pretty mediocre, but I'm not sweating it. doubling down big time on TYD.

[Anonymous No.16815421]

>>16815415
What are your current holdings?

[Anonymous No.16815423]

>>16814810

As long as you sold at a profit you were right and sold at the right time. Having a min/max buy bottom sell top mindset will ruin you in the market. You could make millions and still feel like you didn’t do good enough with that mindset.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16815441]

>>16815421
TYD, SLV, SDS, RWM, IVOL, GALT and 5 tennesse valley authority bonds.

[Anonymous No.16815457]

>>16815441
Didn't you have DG as well?

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16815489]

>>16815441
TYD and other bonds are about 75% of my portfolio.

>>16815457
Sold it a while back for about 18% gain.

[Anonymous No.16815553]

>>16813006
thanks

[Anonymous No.16815573]

>>16815268
This

>>16815290
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/business/boeing-737-employees-messages.amp.html

[Anonymous No.16815574]

>>16813675
kek, this desu senpai

[Anonymous No.16815578]

WORK and TWOU

Hold through Feb. You are welcome.

[Anonymous No.16815604]

>>16815290
Actually the article I linked in the previous reply was not the one I wanted to, but there's a scandal right now with internal emails being leaked, look it up

[Anonymous No.16815809]

>tfw GALT people even lost their confidence in GALT happening and are now saying wait until 2021
Fuck.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16815823]

>>16815809
1 year really isn't that long of a time horizon anon

[Anonymous No.16815837]

>>16815809
The truth is that the GALT buyout for $61/share has already been finalized in the middle of last year, it was cancelled by the Boggs at the last minute to fuck with my calls.

So fuck a buyout, no buyout ever. We're riding solo, GALTchads. The way it was meant to be...

[Anonymous No.16815913]

>>16815809
>>16815823
honestly i just look at you guys waiting literally years hoping and praying shit works out while im just raking in the cash daytrading with moving averages and aroon lmao. you gamblers are absolutely precious.

[Anonymous No.16815961]

>>16815031
I think he's saying when you buy in, set a stop loss just under what you paid to minimize risk but if it goes up 20% take 1/4 of your shares out and adjust your stop loss to just under that 20% gain so you're guaranteed profit with the other 3/4 of your shares if it falls. But if it goes up another 20% take another 1/4 and so on. Basically you'd end up with your original amount invested back then you'd let the rest ride, ie playing with house money.

[Anonymous No.16815971]

>>16815290
I know a Boeing employee who says he'll never fly because he sees the type of people who work on these planes. That being said, I'm sure the diversity is just as bad at all plane manufacturers.

[Anonymous No.16815980]

>>16815290
Boeing employees said the company is a fucking pajeet shitshow circus working at 1usd/hour.

This is critical company for US defense.

[Anonymous No.16816009]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iranian-man-arrested-near-trump-mar-a-lago-resort-today-had-weapons-cash-2020-01-10/

>>16815809
savanon says trust the plan.

[savanon No.16816026]

>>16815809
Only up from here. It's just that calls have higher reward for the price with only slightly higher risk. The drug is 100%, the buyout is the speculation part, you have to set the strategy accordingly. Also sava goes 25-50 this year, so this should be taken into account as well

[Anonymous No.16816027]

any of those AMRN guys still hanging on? Is anyone left? Big green bags guy?

[Anonymous No.16816042]

>>16815961
got it, makes sense. You'd be slowing down profits but securing gains. thx for the explanation

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16816055]

>>16815913
>daytrading
>not gambling
they're both gambling, it's just in one case you know the discrete event you're gambling on and the other you don't.

[Anonymous No.16816078]

>>16811853
Why the FUCK are you guys not managing a portfolio of long/short equity?

[Anonymous No.16816160]

>>16816055
How the fuck is trading gambling? If you don't know the difference between trading and gambling you're a moron that can't trade for shit. What you're doing is actually gambling because you sit there hoping for GALT to make a good announcement rather than a bad one. You can't claim it's not gambling because "fundamentals n' shiiet" either, because GALT is currently considered to be overvalued, their performance outlook is bearish in both the mid and long term, past drug failures have tanked the stock, etc etc.
GALT is just the typical shilled biotech mess that will probably fail yet again. Also imagine if you wait for 1-2 years and their results are decent at best and the stock rallies like 50-150% which by that time means it will probably make it back to $2 because the stock will probably be down to 0.50-1 in a year from now, kek'd.

[Anonymous No.16816181]

GALT will be BO on Monday and will be the biggest news of the day. Screencap this, print it out, and hang it on your wall.

[Anonymous No.16816193]

>>16816027
I sold AMRN before it tanked. Came out pretty good on the deal so that's all that maters. Moved over into ONTX.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16816203]

>>16816160
In case you weren't paying attention, I specifically said GALT is also gambling. Nearly all trading is gambling unless you're buying nothing but stock and bond index funds.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16816226]

>>16816203
and even then, buying index funds only become not gambling because the level of ideological assumptions you have to make in order to think they'll pay out are on the same level that requires you to believe capitalist institutions will continue in the first place.

[Anonymous No.16816235]

https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/01/10/sorrento-therapeutics-received-buyout-offer-from-p.aspx

Another buyout that was not a smg meme.

[Anonymous No.16816252]

>>16816203
whether something is gambling or not is defined by the behavior and decision process, not at all by the underlying asset class.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16816272]

>>16816252
gambling is defined by the level of probabilistic risk taking. you can gamble with your life, your health and your reputation just as much as you can gamble with your money.

[Anonymous No.16816322]

Which UK dividend stocks do you think are buy and hold forever worthy?

Pharma and defense, I think, are good industries so I'd say GSK, AstraZeneca and BAE are good hold forever stocks.

Britvic is another I like since they're going all healthy and that's seems to be the trend lately.

I'd probably avoid BATs and Imperial Brands since smoking is becoming less popular.

I'm in two minds with BP, oil will obviously become less popular but I think they'd adapt well with renewables.


What would you recommend to buy/avoid, /biz/?

[Anonymous No.16816341]

>>16816235
Holy kek. Shills should be embarrassed for betting on the losers instead of these winners that get ignored.

[Anonymous No.16816348]

Do we have opinion on corporate BONDS

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16816387]

>>16816348
will not end well

[Anonymous No.16816390]

>>16811895
Too big to research for me. Give us a tldr.

[Anonymous No.16816392]

>>16816387
Any research links?

[Anonymous No.16816432]

>>16816203
>>16816226
>>16816272
You're just trying to paint the massively wide picture with words to confuse. When you say trading is gambling you know people will draw the conclusion that you're referring to trading as in sitting down at a slot machine, pulling the lever and hoping for a jackpot.
Saying shit like this:
>"requires you to believe capitalist institutions will continue in the first place."
Makes you retarded in my eyes. You're just trying to downplay the fact the you're a gambler and don't know the first two things about being a trader. A person that presses the buy and sell button is not a trader.

[Anonymous No.16816449]

>>16816272
the real question you have to ask yourself is why do people want to own casinos so much? not be a player at the casino, but to BE the casino? that's literal gambling so why would you want to be a casino with an edge of only 1-5% in a lot of cases?

now compare that to trading where you can have not just a 52/48 edge but say a 70/30 or 80/20 edge in your favor, and can do all sorts of neat tricks like scaling out, having a longer time horizon, DCA, diversification, hedging, etc. where not only are the odds heavily in your favor, but you can also have 2:1, 3:1 etc odds (if you win you win 2 or 3 but when you lose you only lose 1, and you win more often than you lose). hell one of the most common ideas in trading is that you shoot for a 2:1 odds on every trade with a 50% win rate, literally only right half the time. you could be right only 34% of the time and break even, not even losing money (win 2, then lose 1 twice).

i just don't consider that gambling compared to the double or nothing shit you meme penny stock traders try to fuck around with. the best comparison for a good edge is that you get to be the casino instead of the player, and the house always wins in the long run.

[Anonymous No.16816461]

>>16812817
Don’t threaten us you nigger. We’re setting your whole world on fire.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16816487]

>>16816390
>>16816392
quick graph I put together in Fred, looking at total debt level plus interest payments as a share of net operating surplus. we're approaching dotcom bubble levels.

Here's a reuters article that sums up the situation well: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-markets-decade-credit/the-decade-of-debt-big-deals-bigger-risk-idUSKBN1YY09Y

[Anonymous No.16816525]

>>16816487
Is this adjusted for inflation? Indicator values of a bubble 20 years ago can just be normal business today.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16816597]

>>16816432
lol

>>16816449
In history and in stocks, highly "unlikely" black swan events happen more frequently than most people expect. Odds of 3:1 in one framework can do very little to account for how the framework might change over time.

Penny stocks are gambling in the same way buying scratchers or going to a casino is, but so is swing trading or day trading more generally. On the whole you won't be beating the index. At least these small stocks and lottos are fun. The only way to beat the index in the long term is to understand the capitalist business cycle. So, gamble what money you're prepared to loose if you want to have some fun, but the only way to grow wealth on average is by planning long term.

[Anonymous No.16816599]

>>16813701
I love TurboTax. It's fun to enter all the numbers from my papers into the TurboTax forms and watch the refund numbers go up and down.

[Anonymous No.16816601]

>>16816487
We should be, fuvking low iq moron

If you dont get why stfu

Ai genomic revolution is real

[Anonymous No.16816610]

>>16816597
Who cares?

You understand what the point of the market is right? ITS RELATIVE

We aren't going to force a recession to clean things out while China is pumping. It just isn't going to happen. Especially when you have a lot of technology we need to get to the forefront of like EV, AI, Genomics, etc.

If there was no China they would have let the market die last year.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16816619]

>>16816525
It's a ratio to net operating surplus, so adjusting it for inflation wouldn't help. A 5 units of debt and interest to operating surplus 20 years ago would be as significant as a ratio of 5 units of debt and interest to 1 today.

[Anonymous No.16816631]

>>16816619
numbers are meaningless again. history is meaningless.

If you believe at all in AI, EV, Genomics revolution, then those numbers do not affect your investing strategy.

What is the price multiple on the stock to get lvl 5 AI driving right? Even going through a downturn on it won't effect you.

[Anonymous No.16816643]

Monday will make dreams come true

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16816645]

>>16816631
lay off the meth mr land.

[Anonymous No.16816658]

>>16816645
It's truth. How sick do you think USA market is compared to China? If we are going to compete with China for world investment what do we have to do ?

[savanon No.16816668]

>>16816597
'Beating the index is hard' is a meme. If you have little money it is child's play. It is only getting hard if you manage tens of millions. I can't comprehend why people say this.

[Anonymous No.16816706]

>>16816658
your posts are going into my 'retarded shit' folder along with other retarded posts so i can post them when the recession hits

[Anonymous No.16816726]

>>16816668
this. I work in financial services, most funds grow 20% ish a year. If I take 100 and put it into robinhood/crypto, turning it into 120 is pathetically easy. Only retards and really unlucky people lose money swing trading.

[Anonymous No.16816743]

>>16816597
>Penny stocks are gambling in the same way buying scratchers or going to a casino is, but so is swing trading or day trading more generally.
Jesus fucking christ kill me now. Can you do me a favour for a second? Explain how you would set up a trade, what you would use and do to spot the areas you would consider a good buy/short area and the management that goes into the trade.

[Anonymous No.16816751]

>>16816706
It's simply unspoken reality. In a global environment all the things goldbugs cry about like fed and gov debt don't matter. Because you are competing not just for internal health but global investment and activity.

[Anonymous No.16816774]

Are value stock etf a good idea?
I want to make some extra tendies with muh value stock bonus but dont know if the etf part is a meme

[Anonymous No.16816781]

>>16816774
ask yourself this question: do you want your portfolio to be managed by other people like a cuck?

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16816797]

>>16816743
I'd probably start by looking for company I'm familiar with that seems to have a promising strategy. Then look at debt to equity ratios and recent news for any red flags. Then buy with a limit order for a recent low and with a stop loss of about 20%. Basically what I did with cracker barrel and dollar general. Both turned out fine, but picking individual stocks like that does come with plenty of risk.

[Anonymous No.16816807]

>>16816781
what about muh diversification/transaction costs

[Anonymous No.16816831]

>>16816807
Too much diversity is bad, just pick 1 good company in 8 different industries. You don't need to invest in a 100 different companies through a fund.

[Anonymous No.16816844]

>>16816668
>>16816726
I think it's a meme that's convenient for peple managing said funds. For example, my bank offers a sort of investment program where they sell you all this crap funds that they manage and """guarantee""" (subject to le magic market swings of course) a 5% ROI /year. Some normies think this is even decent. What they actually do is use your money and trade it in way riskier things, making huge profits and leaving you the scraps. If they royally fuck it up, they can even tell you "it was the market, goy!". So, the "unbeatable market" is a very convenient meme. You only have to pick the right stocks and I'm sure they are perfectly aware of that.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16816861]

>>16816844
/biz/ shits its pants every other month because people here pathologically chase high yield

[Anonymous No.16816875]

>>16816797
So you're a fundamental trader that uses a 20% stop loss? One major thing that distinguish traders from gamblers is the possibility of risk management, you're never suppose to risk more than 2% on every trade. I'm pretty sure both of those things are the reasons why you believe trading is gambling because it has without a doubt led to you losing money over and over again for some time now. If I risked 20% on every trade I would wipe my accounts clean every other week (depending on the amounts of trades I take).
Just a wild guess here, but you're the type of person that dislikes TA, right?

[Anonymous No.16816884]

>>16816807
>muh transaction costs
Uhhh what?
You mean the $0 fee Schwab charges me per transaction?

As far as I can tell, the passively managed value funds are a meme. Read the prospectus for these. VTV and such seem to just invest in stocks that meet certain criteria, like a low P/E. Or they just mimic the other index ETFs with a heavier weighting of those stocks. I don’t like that. This is one of the RARE circumstances where I think paying for active management could be worth it.

Also, Berkshire is basically a value investment fund.

Alternatively, pick some value stocks and diversify a little into them. My value pick for 2020 is VIAC. I wouldn’t recommend it.

[Anonymous No.16816901]

>>16816807
>what about muh diversification/transaction costs
what transaction costs? Robinhood/revolut have virtually insignificant costs attached to trading. And I don't get your point about diversification, you can quite easily invest in more than one fund without a fund manager

[Anonymous No.16816913]

>>16816743
>>16816597
>Penny stocks are gambling in the same way buying scratchers or going to a casino is

That part seems completely valid to me.

Small market caps, little institutional support, too small for the SEC to care too much about... seems very manipulatable to me.

And then there’s the forums, messageboards, and news letters that lure in the reckless.

[Anonymous No.16816917]

>>16816884
time to get balls-deep in KraftHeinz very soon. That earnings report will beat expectations, I'm certain

[Anonymous No.16816938]

>>16816917
please let this ketchup shit die, for the love of god

[savanon No.16816946]

>>16816861
Yeah, except they are not pathologically high. That would be a 10000% yield. But for example just buying lci now will give you 200%. Last year even amd alone went 150%, could have been relatively foreseeable if one looked at Intel's struggle with 10nm. Right now galt is easy 100% at least, sava 200% within half a year. And not to mention options...

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16816949]

>>16816875
that kind of trading is just a more time consuming way of following the market as a whole.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16816964]

>>16816946
that is completely pathologically high. Here's the thing, the rate of return for physical capital is only around 9%, if there really was that kind of money to be made in financial markets in a reliable way no one would ever invest in actual businesses.

[Anonymous No.16816977]

>>16816884
>>16816901
Dont think there are any no transaction cost brokers where I live
Anyway as far as I know Robinhood fucks you over by not filling your order unless they can make some money on the ask-bid difference
They need to make money some way at least

>And I don't get your point about diversification, you can quite easily invest in more than one fund without a fund manager
Diversification means more transactions
With ETFs you get the highest amount but with one transaction
Not sure why youre mentioning funds the guy I was replying to was talking about stocks

[Anonymous No.16817007]

>>16816977
They also sell order flow data to HFT firms

[Anonymous No.16817019]

>>16816964
that's not completely true. A business allows you to actually manage and use (if you want to) the cashflow of said business. You can't do that while trading, you have to abdicate access to your money for as long as you want it working for you and earning profits. Also, you never really have actual profits unless you sell and withdraw, which is another detriment to making even better profits in the future by compounding. It's not the same concept. While I do agree that something like 200% is pathologically high, fuck 100% is also pathologically high, anything around 8-40% is possible. Not easy, but doable. and that's without investing in meme stocks.

[Anonymous No.16817021]

>>16816946
>Right now galt is easy 100%
When is right now

[savanon No.16817040]

>>16816964
Entrepreneurship appeals to some people for other reasons than money. There is power, control, the sense of building things. It's a bit depressing in comparison to only read filings and watch charts all day while the chair soaks up your sweat.

[Anonymous No.16817060]

>>16816913
>And then there’s the forums that lure in the reckless.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16817072]

>>16817019
>>16817040
There are much higher barriers to investing your money into physical capital and making them productive. Any moron can get an investing account, but to manage an effective business, hell to even make a real estate deal, is much more difficult. There are plenty of bigger risks involved as well too. Your reputation and livelihood is at stake.

The reason that the financial rate of return is so much higher is simply that capitalism naturally leads to overaccumulation. In late capitalism, there will always be a glut of loanable funds, savings and investment money. This means that financial assets will face inflation of a much higher rate than the general economy.

[Anonymous No.16817073]

>>16816938
CHUP BOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIS

[savanon No.16817106]

>>16817021
I mean from these prices. Reaching 6 not long after they start the trial is very realistic without any additional news

[Anonymous No.16817114]

>>16817072
>late capitalism

How is late communism doing in cuba and venezuela shithead

[Anonymous No.16817119]

>>16817114
actually have no interest in rehashing the same dumb commie shit, fuck off from smg if you wanna internate debate about dumbshit marxism or w.e. filth you think

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16817126]

>>16817119
>>16817114
you're the one who wanted to start shit anon lol

[Anonymous No.16817148]

>>16817126
nice SMG related post

what's your YTD returns ?

[Anonymous No.16817157]

>>16814599
No one?

[Anonymous No.16817170]

>>16814599
>>16817157
we already told you that gamestop is going bankrupt. fuckoff.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16817181]

>>16817148
about 6%, just parking my money in bonds mostly until shit hits the fan.

>>16816487
>>16816392
>>16816390
just found this amazing graph on the Fred website

[Anonymous No.16817189]

>>16817181
Since jan 1?

[Anonymous No.16817191]

>>16817126
Colonel Sanders is going to wreck your life. Health Care tho

[savanon No.16817192]

>>16817072
I think you overthink. I see [citation needed] signs all over the second paragraph. As for the first, I agree pretty much, but not the money is the only thing considered when one starts a business. As for getting rich there are many billionaires who literally did nothing but watch the charts and read filings. The trick is only to choose the winning trades, which anyone can readily do by reading enough. It's even in Graham's book. He says there is no way one can manage much more than 6 positions, simply because it takes up the whole day if you take it seriously

[Anonymous No.16817221]

>>16817072
Any moron can get an investing account, but the vast majority loses money consistently due to retardedness and psychological barriers. As for the level of risk, it depends on how you manage that capital, if you go all out you can lose literally all your money.

>This means that financial assets will face inflation of a much higher rate than the general economy.

Yeah, no. Every aspect is hit equally by inflation, the thing that's driving stock prices up right now is that precisely that inflation brought by QE (thus the increasy of available currency) is going into stocks thanks to banks managing it, trying to make a buck before shit hit the fan.

[Anonymous No.16817227]

Book recommendations, /smg/?

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16817229]

>>16817189
Graph only goes up to third quarter of 2019. Here's a better graph that provides context. Corporations have been using debt to inflate their own market value, hence while the debt to historic net worth ratio sky rockets, the debt to market net worth stays the same.

[Anonymous No.16817234]

What do people thing is going to happen this up coming monday? Also does anyone know what caused the market to reverse mid friday?

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16817238]

>>16817192
Oh yeah I'm not denying there's plenty of money to be made in finance, but that money cannot be made in a reliable way unless you understand how capitalism works

[Anonymous No.16817243]

>>16817229
>>16817181
So this will have to be refinanced with record low yields?

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16817247]

>>16817227
Philosophy of the Encounter by Louis Althusser
Myth of the Rational Market by Justin Fox
The Drunkard's Walk by Leonard Mlodinow

[Anonymous No.16817261]

>>16813943
Also interested

[Anonymous No.16817263]

>>16817234
Cnbc ran ahuge thing on trimming mid day

[Anonymous No.16817264]

>>16817170
This post is hardly about gamestop, brainlet

[Anonymous No.16817285]

I get that magic happens and reinvesting dividends creates fractional shares out of thin air, but how does it go when you go to actually sell? What do you do with 0.31824781248921412 of a share?

[Anonymous No.16817293]

How are we feeling about the Biopharms scheduled for catalysts next week? Who missed out on their chance to buy in?

[Anonymous No.16817299]

>>16817227
> Uncommon Profits and Other Writings
> Margin of Safety: Risk-Averse Value Investing Strategies for the Thoughtful Investor
> Principles Of Corporate Finance (Richard A. Brealey)
> http://people.stern.nyu.edu/adamodar/
> sec.gov read company 10q/k/8ks.
> Whatever successful people have written like Buffett, Icahn ie. http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/letters.html

[Anonymous No.16817304]

nano/penny/small stocks have quite similar distribution of returns than dow for example not
much difference there. actually the distribution might be more much more extreme

so if that was _not_- the case and nanos and micros were great investments then you would
just index them, which we can see easily see micro indexes are not that well performing after all.

quite similar with cryptos, where about 95% of shitcoins lost 95% of their value during one or
two year of time, or something like that

also there is no doubt greater chance of pump and dump schemes in small caps, but sec and
its algos definititely keeps eye on all listed stocks not just big dogs. i would say especially they look at smaller ones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wkCsnFRuwg

[Anonymous No.16817308]

>>16817285
Looks like rumored amd benchmark was 2080ti on amd apu. Not big navi.

Anyone in nvda breath easy

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.16817334]

>>16817227
Intelligent investor
Principles

[Anonymous No.16817339]

nano/penny/small stocks have quite similar distribution of returns than dow for example not
much difference there. actually the distribution might be more much more extreme

so if that was _not_- the case and nanos and micros were great investments then you would
just index them, which we can see easily see micro indexes are not that well performing after all.

quite similar with cryptos, where about 95% of shitcoins lost 95% of their value during one or
two year of time, or something like that


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wkCsnFRuwg

[Anonymous No.16817344]

>>16817308
Nm debunked

[Anonymous No.16817349]

It will probably be easier for Omnipork in Hong Kong to enter the Chinese market than Beyond Meats or Impossible Food.

[savanon No.16817380]

>>16817238
Yes, but it takes literally a second to understand capitalism: buy things with which has higher value than the money you pay with.
It's pretty reliable. 1 share of galt is worth more than 3 dollars, 1 share of sava is worth more than 8. So you buy. Then you wait till people understand what those are, and are willing to bid closer to the actual value

[Anonymous No.16817395]

>>16817285
The broker probably sells all whole shares and keeps the 0.318... himself and adds it to all the other fractional shares he got from other people until he can sell a full share again.

[Anonymous No.16817446]

>>16817264
>asks about GME's DIX
>its not about GME
>DF's DIX was high right to the end
>DF went bankrupt
>was DF a good buy
>this company with a good DIX went under
>how accurate is DIX?

[Anonymous No.16817468]

>>16814810
Inch your stop loss up as the stock rises. Take partial profit every time the upward momentum stalls and the thing trades roughly sideways. Have realistic expectations for the amount of the move you can reasonably capture. Typically 50%-75% of the rising trend is good and reasonable. You will never buy right at the bottom and sell right at the top unless you're super lucky. Don't beat yourself up if the stock keeps rising after you sold, don't fomo back in.

[Anonymous No.16817481]

>>16817446
Normally I would try to help you with your lack of understanding but in this case it seems that all hope is lost.
Nice selfie btw

[Anonymous No.16817485]

why are tech stocks like AMD so great to day trade? stuff like NVDA too although it's expensive. so much volume going on, and in the 40-50 range it's pretty affordable to trade 100-1000 shares at a time. all packed on top of a solid foundation fundamentally.

any other suggestions on stocks like this? this past week i've literally just traded AMD alone, almost feel like why even bother looking around for other stocks. because of the liquidity you could very easily scale up if you wanted to with a good system.

[Anonymous No.16817502]

>>16817395
bretty much
broker buys shares throughout the quarter, divides them up between clients who buy partial shares.

Keeping track of tiny numbers like that is the kind of thing computers are good at.

>>16817285
>reinvesting dividends creates fractional shares out of thin air
No, the broker you buy your shares with "creates? partial shares from whole shares.
>What do you do with 0.31824781248921412 of a share?
Collect 0.31824781248921412 of the dividends, and receive 0.31824781248921412 of the value of a whole share when you sell.

[Anonymous No.16817506]

>>16817481
Go all in on GME nergo. Do it pussy.

[Anonymous No.16817530]

>>16814599
are you calculating dix based off of short volume or what??
If they're stocks that investors are actually shorting into bankruptcy, and not just dark pools shorting to keep liquid, then yeah they're not good investments.

Not sure I would bet on dix for a company that is failing and institutions have no interest in. Especially one that the Robinhood "investors" who buy the stocks of tupperware and party city are also investing in.

>>16817481
...he seems to have a good understanding of this one, even if he is being needlessly hostile

[Anonymous No.16817553]

Hey I didn't see a QTDDTOT thread or something along those lines, but being a total retard, I cant figure something out.

I'm 20 and I just opened an IRA Roth, and I keep seeing contribution limits being $6,000. I also see it mentioned with employers. Is this limit of $6,000 in regards to employers CONTRIBUTING to your IRA Roth, or can you only deposit up to $6,000 a year?

I'm sorry if this sounds supremely retarded.

Thanks.

[Anonymous No.16817571]

protests in Iran
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/11/iran-protesters-take-streets-shooting-ukrainian-airliner/

Trump Magic?

[Anonymous No.16817590]

>>16812671
>>16817263
Where was the FUD? Cramer was signaling to sell/be careful, which is a huge red flag, but he wasn't being very overt about it.

Instead I see this:
>The worst thing that clients and investors can do, with the market at present levels, is pull the plug and go underweight equities.

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/01/10/its-too-early-to-take-record-market-profits-pncs-amanda-agati-says.html

>>16817571
They've been protesting the current regime, and being gunned down in the streets for protesting, for months now. Maybe years?

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.16817592]

>>16817571
can you remind me again why Iran is important?

[Anonymous No.16817597]

Now why would Armistice Capital own 30% of ONTX stock if they weren't confident of the long term outlook and Profit? They won't sell it at just $1 puny buck a share I know that much. Dumping several million, they'd want some serious return for that money.

[Anonymous No.16817601]

>>16817592
Really important strategic position in the middle east. Have lots of influence across to Lebanon and Yemen now.

[Anonymous No.16817604]

>>16817592
4th biggest oil reserves in the world, mate.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/map-countries-most-oil-reserves/

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.16817606]

>>16817601
>Really important strategic position in the middle east. Have lots of influence across to Lebanon and Yemen now.
why though? Why should we care?

[Anonymous No.16817619]

>>16817597
the big boys are wrong all the time about speculative buys like that just so you know.

[Anonymous No.16817622]

>>16817592
It's all about the oil and nukes. If it wasn't for those things no one would give two shits. Don't kid yourself. The U.S only cares if it involves something that the U.S needs or has a stake in. If it was just for so called "humanitarian" reasons we'd have "bumped off" Kim Jug Huh long ago.

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.16817632]

>>16817604
>>16817622
so then this time we're going to take their oil? because as far as I remember the only fucking people that are benefiting from oil is the middle eastern people.. but yet we've been at war in the middle east how long? we have been there for years but yet... we aren't seeing any of that "oil money" when does the war actually start to benefit us?? because it just seems we waste money to occupy and police those areas while the oil barrons get rich... not making much sense to me..

[Anonymous No.16817641]

>>16817632
cool it with the antisemitism

[Anonymous No.16817642]

>>16811853
let's see paul allen's shorts

[Anonymous No.16817656]

>>16817606
Oil, although less important each year, also nukes + religious fanatics with extensive guerilla operarations

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.16817661]

>>16817641
I just think all this is just to keep common folk distracted and occupied with bullshit

[Anonymous No.16817673]

>>16817114
>cuba and venezuela
>cherry picking the worst of the worst examples
>because looking at northern Europe the last half century puts the focus on governance, rather than property ownership

[Anonymous No.16817679]

>>16817530
>are you calculating dix based off of short volume or what??
What else?
>Not sure I would bet on dix...
Ok fuck this. Forget gme, you have the same misunderstanding as the poster above. I took GME as a example of a forever downtrending stock and forever positive dix. It's the divergence which this is about. I could have taken LCI or DIS. The question is: Is the DIX thesis wrong in general or do specific conditions invalidate the dix? or Is dark pool buying and selling not (in all cases) a sufficiently effective proxy for whole public exchange buying/selling?

[Anonymous No.16817682]

>>16817622
the oil is peanuts and the bullshit that everyone spouts and the media repeats. It's about forcefully installing more central banks. That's were the real money is. Iran is the last country on earth without a central bank not owned by the usual suspects.

[Anonymous No.16817695]

>>16817682
*that's not owned

[Anonymous No.16817742]

The whole Iraqi deal was and is a big shit show. We went there cause meh weapons of mass destruction. The falling of the twin towers was the excuse for it. We went, bombed the place to hell, hung saddam, but hey guess what? No weapons to be found. The terrorist dudes all scattered to the winds. Then we forked out billions to fix the place after we bombed it. Now the country is to be frank much worse now that it was under saddam. Yeah he may have been a dictator,etc and I'm not defending that. But he kept the country intact. There was no ISIS or other shit when he was running the show.

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.16817754]

>>16817682
>Iran is the last country on earth without a central bank not owned by the usual suspects.
now thats what i'm talking about.. makes more sense.. the oil is a good cover up for a reason.. but when do we see oil money?!?! we don't.. it's a scam.. this sounds more likely

[Anonymous No.16817757]

>>16817742
The effect of US Iraq foreign policy has been the empowering of Iran. Saddam to an extent resisted Iran's regional ambitions; US destroyed this counter-power.

Much the same happened when Ottoman and Austro-Hungary imploded/were destroyed in WW1 and gave much more room for German and Russian ambitions to expand.

It's quicksand.

[Anonymous No.16817763]

>>16817673
in japan boj owns all bond market and half of nikkei too ;)

[Anonymous No.16817767]

>>16817632
retention of the petrodollar is more important than oil itself

[Anonymous No.16817778]

>>16817682
Yeah it's about influence and control in order to install the shit they want in the future. One world government and what not. The fact that people still believe it's as simple as oil needs to update themselves. Why would the western nations invade places like Vietnam if it were about resources? Because it's not about resources... per se, I guess.
Doesn't matter though

[LCIguy !7SgaW5KMQI No.16817787]

>>16817778
>One world government and what not. The fact that people still believe it's as simple as oil needs to update themselves. Why would the western nations invade places like Vietnam if it were about resources? Because it's not about resources... per se, I guess.
it's making sense to me anon

[Anonymous No.16817799]

Every government on this earth using dollars for oil sales holds their account for it at Federal Reserve Bank of New York, where their money is held.

Control of the cash flow > control of the substance (oil) itself.

[Anonymous No.16817853]

>>16817679
?
you cut out the important part of the sentence:
>for a company that is failing and institutions have no interest in
If a company is being bought up and is going higher, than the shorts are more likely to be darkpools. If the company has no institutional support, is viewed negatively, is in a strong downtrend, etc. then it's likely NOT dark pools shorting to create liquidity, it's actual shortsellers betting on the company failing.

>>16817778
>Why would the western nations invade places like Vietnam if it were about resources?
Proxy wars like vietnam and korea aren't the same as the middle east conflicts.

Wars are good for demonstrating dominance and testing military hardware. There are many reasons.

In past eras, they have even been a tool to cull an unsustainably large population. Having all the young poor males die off in war beats having starvation and riots, and the women can be used by the noble and elite to repopulate at more sustainable levels. And if you somehow manage to win the conflict and claim the enemies resources, that's an excellent bonus prize.

War is not as simple as we like to pretend. Considering the decline in US manufacturing, a nice war could be a perfect excuse to get people into factories to make bombs and planes and ships. That's economic stimulus.

Similar for China and Russian manufacturing. Iran seems to like buying russia's munitions these days.

[Anonymous No.16817924]

>>16817742
bombing the place to hell was fine. it's the nation building after that was the problem. the lesson should be that if you fuck with us we'll fucking kill you and everyone you know and then go back to business as usual, and it would actually make an effective deterrent in the future if that happened. but it didn't.

[Anonymous No.16817952]

>>16817924
> bombing the place to hell was fine
Bombing Iraq led to destruction of whatever power Saddam held and made that place breeding ground of anti-American sentiment which all helped Iran to expand into Iraq and now there's a big issue with Iran that has expanded far beyond its powers.

[Anonymous No.16817957]

>>16817767
>>16817799

this.


That's why the US went balls in on Lybia. Gaddafi wanted to start using the gold dinar to trade his oil internationally. Now, we can't have someone threaten the might petrodollar, can we?

>>16817924
>fuck with us we'll fucking kill

more like we'll fucking kill you whatever you do. the US military machine is under the complete control of very, very dangerous people and their goal is definitely not the safety of americans.

[Anonymous No.16817976]

>>16816726
you're fuccin up or larping
most managed accounts under-performed the S&P in 2019

[Anonymous No.16817990]

>>16817763
even better!

[Anonymous No.16817994]

>>16817334
>>16817247
>>16817299
good recs
first read
"book of guys" by G Keillor
then "A history of Western Philosophy" by B Russel
then read intelligent investor, then the other recs

[Anonymous No.16817997]

>>16817976
I'm torn on this one... This is judging as if you went all-in on the S&P on Jan 1st... I don't think that risk:reward was all that promising. It's easy to say it was in hindsight, but who knew that the plunge protection team scheme and powell pivot would be as successful as they were?

[Anonymous No.16817998]

>>16817606
Religion factor
>>16817632
What Anerica want from oil producing countries are not oil buck per se, but for them to keep pumping out oil for itself and allies without growing into a superpower in itself that can oppose American interest using their oil. It would be nice if doing so can also advance American value or American economic interest but they aren't necessary. As the production of shale oil in America in recent years have turned America into a net oil exporter, American reliance on Middle East oil and the strategic value of getting involved in the region have decreased.
>>16817622
>>16817656
Nuclear development programs in Iran is a reason why they have become a problem but that's not the most important reason now. Their nuclear development process is still at a relatively early stage of making high concentration Uranium, unlike say North Korea which have already completed multiple rounds of nuclear bomb and missile testing with various different yield. If America can live with Nirth Korea with nuclear weapon and missile just across the pacific from itself and right next to their Japan and South Korea allies, there're no reason that America cannot do the same to Iran.
My personal hypothesis is that, when the Iranian revolution and the Teheran embassy hostages crisis happened at 1979, Trump and various people around him now was still relatively young at the time, and that gave them strong and vivid impression on how Iranian people and the government established after the revolution are treating the people of American, and as such image still persists in their mind until now with selective confirmation bias from various news about the poor acts of Iranian governments, they're trying to enact greater pressure against Iran. On the other hand, Iranian government also need to response harshly as those Trump policies cancelled expected benefits of making concession in the previous deal, which resulted in mutual escalation and lead to where we are at now

[Anonymous No.16818008]

>>16817590
now listen here
PNC doesn't hire the most attractive girls
but they're solid, they are genuine honest Midwestern people
believe that

[Anonymous No.16818016]

>>16817763
that's because they are small people (short, small shoulders) with small penis (length and girth) so they have to overcompensate by being ultra-chad in other ways

[Anonymous No.16818028]

>>16817997
most managed funds under-perform indices on all durations, not just 2019

[Anonymous No.16818051]

>>16817998
The embassy hostage crisis is definitely relevant, Trump made that clear. The amount of potential targets he tweeted about was the same as the number of hostages.

BUT to make the claim that if the US can live with a nuclear north korea then they can do so with Iran... that makes no sense to me. It was not in the US interest for North Korea to get nukes, and Iran is seeing how useful it was for North Korea.

The current regime in iran is shit, the world would be a darker place if they had nukes at their disposal.

[Anonymous No.16818079]

>>16817952
there isn't going to be any "anti-American sentiment" if there aren't any people to have that sentiment. war is hell, we forgot that after WWII for some reason because it's why we lost vietnam too. same issue with north korea, no one is willing to let south korea get blown the fuck up in the process so we have to keep playing with kid gloves and humoring a dictator.

it's not a politically correct opinion to be sure, but i feel like if we just accepted the short-term losses we could rid the world of most of the bullshit for the long term prosperity of humanity. it's the classic Truman problem: do you nuke Japan or do you fight a land war, knowing full well that because of their culture the Japs will fight to the last man, woman, and child, and you will likely be fighting there for years losing thousands if not millions of more casualties? guess what happened, not a land war. how did that turn out? guess what happened in iraq.... how did that turn out... yeah.

[Anonymous No.16818090]

>>16818051
in short: bleeding heart liberals ruin the world. they're trying to fix a rabid dog by trying to give it a hug when anyone with common sense would want to put the thing down. BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT OH NO NOT THE CUTE DOGGIE! YOU'RE SO MEAN! and then they get their face bit off lmao.

[Anonymous No.16818100]

>>16818079
>there isn't going to be any "anti-American sentiment" if there aren't any people to have that sentiment.
You didn't have the stomach to genocide the Iraqis in the previous wars, so now there are anti-American Iraqis which you can detect in MSM whenever you read "Iran-backed militia" (A militia.. composed of who? Iraqis), if it wasn't already apparent in their parliamentary motions.
> it's not a politically correct opinion to be sure,
It's not a politically feasible option, it has no relevance in realm of political action that has been taken or can be taken. You have the options you have, not the ones you would prefer to have, and those you have to deal with it. I stress this because it was blatant to anyone with above room temp. IQ what a disaster the neocon foreign policy would be in 2001.

[Anonymous No.16818102]

what's going to happen monday? bullrun resume or sell off?

[german !!98W/2pOFkik No.16818115]

>>16818090
>bleeding heart liberals ruin the world.
all humans ruin the world no matter their belief

[Anonymous No.16818123]

Any good longterm buys monday? I’m thinking tencent. Maybe IBM?

[Anonymous No.16818150]

>>16818123
definitely tencent. It's still undervalued and just started skyrocketing in the last couple of months.

hell, all good asian tech stonks are gonna blow up in the next few months.

[Anonymous No.16818161]

>>16818100
>You didn't have the stomach to genocide the Iraqis in the previous wars

uh yeah did you miss that this was my whole point? and it wasn't me, it was the US govt. they didn't ask my opinion unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.16818174]

>>16818150
Why do you think so? I agree but curious for your reasoning

[Anonymous No.16818179]

ABBV or BMY?

[Anonymous No.16818189]

>>16818115
basically we abide by a lot of bullshit because of fear of stepping on anyone's toes, but as a result instead of just killing the cancer outright and then being cured you just try to manage it, until eventually it grows out of control and causes your fucking organs to stop functioning. we let a lot of evil continue to go on in the world because muh feels, muh perfect solution where only bad guys die no good guys die. imagine how vietnam would have went if we actually went in there and fucked up the enemy instead of just holding the line until we had to just leave. why? bleeding heart liberals and the anti-war movement in the US. every fucking time.

[Anonymous No.16818281]

>>16818179
ABBV looks better

[Anonymous No.16818318]

>>16818179
Both but... at these prices? I don't know

[german !!98W/2pOFkik No.16818319]

>>16818189
>imagine how vietnam would have went if we actually went in there and fucked up the enemy
ww3 sounds fun

[Anonymous No.16818352]

>>16818102
Red open in to flat or slight green close. I figure red open given the selling in to close on Friday. We'll see what futures have to say tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.16818386]

>>16818174
Tencent is basically an arm of the chinese gov

[Anonymous No.16818406]

Is all of "Great" Britain in a 10-year crab market, or just large-cap pharma GSK?

I wonder how much money was made from running Iron-condors or covered calls on GSK...

I bought calls, so I really fuggin hope Emma Walmsley has an excellent presentation at the JPM conference, and Cramer pumps it when he has her on.

BUT SHES A WOMAN CEO so they might just talk about fucking ESG shit instead of all the good shit she's been doing at the company. Could even get bogged down talking about the dang Brexit.

[Anonymous No.16818472]

How do I profit off peoples cigarette, alcohol and gambling addictions? I personally know plenty of people who have all three.

[Anonymous No.16818502]

>>16818472
You're like, 100 years too late for all of them.

[Anonymous No.16818536]

>>16817853
In terms of Regulation SHO buying is reported as short while selling is reported as long due to MM fuckery. That's at least what Mr Squeeze says.
What's actual dark pool shorting then reported as? Long? Short? If I understand you correctly then as short and this makes dix a bogus metric in this case. I don't know which one it is but shouldn't then other high short interest stocks have high dix? They don't. PTON has low dix, MDR has low dix....
Me thinks you're confusing short volume with short interest or I don't quite understand the point you're trying to make.

[Anonymous No.16818581]

>>16817553
It doesn't sound like you're talking about an employer sponsored plan, so it doesn't affect you either way. I'm not sure about IRAs, but for a 401k, there are separate limits for employee contributions (deferrals) and total contributions.

https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/plan-participant-employee/retirement-topics-401k-and-profit-sharing-plan-contribution-limits

[Anonymous No.16818674]

>>16818051
It was not in the US interest for North Korea to get nukes, but at the current year of 2020 they have veen testing and making their own nukes for years already yet America still wanted to talk to them, give them trade deal, and didn't enforce much new actions against them other than those old sanctions.

[Anonymous No.16818693]

>>16818472
open a liquor store.

[Anonymous No.16818700]

How do I know a share price is a fair price, lads?

[Anonymous No.16818747]

>>16818536
I don't fully understand DIX, will be doing some research tonight.
>>16818674
That all demonstrates the power NK gained in getting the program. I don't see how that's anything but alarming.

All of that is happening because NK has nukes, not in spite of the nukes.

Iran wants to drag the US to the table and force them to stop enacting sanctions. US should be enacting new sanctions against NK every time they launch missiles in the direction of allies like Japan, but instead the US has been forced to talk and try to make deals.

What am I missing here?

[Anonymous No.16818757]

>>16818700
look at the fundamentals if it's a mature company, like Fwd PE, ROE, EPS growth, etc

[Anonymous No.16818810]

prolly gonna take profit on SRNE monday, unsure what to do with it.

The GALTanons seem louder than usual....maybe calls? Don't wanna hold the stock.

[Anonymous No.16818814]

I always thought it was kinda funny about how we did the whole Cuba thing. Back in the early 19th century we actually owned Cuba, had our own Govt in place,etc. But then we gave it up. Makes you wonder why since you know it sits just there damn close to Florida. Hell Hawaii's further away. We still own Purto rico,guam,etc but far as I know we've no plans to make them official states or cut them loose either. So they sit kinda in limbo till I guess the world just shits itself. But hell I guess it would be kinda cool. Your a U.S citizen but since it's not an official state,etc you don't gotta fork out any income tax to the feds. So you get all the perks of being a U.S citizen but none of the drawbacks (Taxes).

[Anonymous No.16818815]

>>16818693
Where I sell cigarettes and have pokie machines?

[Anonymous No.16818850]

>>16818814
if you're interested in the history of American territories check out "How to Hide an Empire" by Daniel Immerwahr, really interesting stuff.

[Anonymous No.16818962]

>>16818174
many reasons. The first one is that 75% of my portfolio is asian tech stonks and they have been performing quite well in the last few months. The economy is booming, we hear "oh china is slowing down" it's complete bullshit, they have """slowed down""" from 7% to 6% which is still outlandish. Add that to the population number and the ever growing people coming out of poverty through the sheer force of money practically pouring out of china, plus the fact that they're no longer industry copycats but industry innovators.. we'll you've got yourself a market there.

>>16818386
absolutely. They don't even have to hide it. It's literally the asian Facebook on crack, they collect data even from hanheld console games.

[Anonymous No.16819003]

>>16816027
still got quite a few shares, it'll probably be up a lot by EOY so im not worried about them.

[Anonymous No.16819045]

Hey guys, I bought AAPL at $90 and it's at $310 now. Should I sell?

[Anonymous No.16819100]

I am so glad I went into Tesla stocks in 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDUPGKhmjAM&feature=youtu.be

[Anonymous No.16819231]

>>16818962
b-but BiliBili...

[Anonymous No.16819330]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1216114167108849665

I'm thinking this Iran thing might not be over. What investments would be good to get in a bit before they might blow up? US oil, gold, defense?

[Anonymous No.16819337]

Thirty geese just flew over in formation. I dunno what the hell. They should be down in California antagonizing the burgers at this time of year. It's -20 C outside right now.

[Anonymous No.16819371]

>>16811853
Is algo trading a meme or does it work?

[Anonymous No.16819381]

>>16817553
No, YOU can't put more than $6000 in a Roth IRA a year. And if your income gets above ~200k you can't make Roth contributions at all.

The feds don't want you taking that much of a tax advantage.

[Anonymous No.16819385]

>>16812705
where is your blog at? I need good stock blog with information like yours to follow.

[Anonymous No.16819405]

>>16819330
Defense stocks in existing bullish trend like Lockheed Martin are safest. Gold and oil will jerk harder up or down based on sentiment of the hour. LMT isn't going to plunge if things stay peaceful.

[Anonymous No.16819408]

>>16819371
It werks but why would you?
The brain is a much better pattern detector in a context depedent environment than a algo. Why would you not want to use this? It's better to write the tools, indicators, data scrappers...and then just use them manually.

[Anonymous No.16819503]

I want to test something. Is there an freeware algo script that randomly buys/sells stock. I feel like I need to compare my strategy against a basis cause I'm starting to believe that my strategy would lose to a pair of dice.

[Anonymous No.16819517]

These are the 18 highest volume equities on average (20 million+ daily). This is where the big money is moving around.
>BTC (yeah crypto I know)
>SPY
>QQQ
>VXX
>GDX
>XLF
>XOP
>EEM
>ACB
>BAC
>CHK
>GE
>T
>AMD
>AAPL
>F
>NIO

[Anonymous No.16819538]

ADXS
ONTX
PLUG
TCHEY
CRSPR
maybe ACB when it gets lower.
These are my plans. How are they

[Anonymous No.16819561]

>>16819517
Fuck make that 19, forgot UBER.

[Anonymous No.16819598]

>>16819517
>highest volume equities
In shares?
1000 shares a 5$ is less than 1000 shares a 10$.
Share volume is irrelevant. Multiply that daily volume with the daily close.

[Anonymous No.16819605]

>>16819330
It is over in the sense you're thinking of, even if mass riots starts to happen US wouldn't actively get involved (other than CIA and shit obviously). Iran admitting to the downing of the plane was probably the smartest move they have done for a long time in terms of de-escalating things, so oil is probably dead for some time.
>Gold
Meh, but remember the fear of recession and shit will probably keep driving the price of gold up.
>Defense stocks
The solid bet since Trump will send more troops to the middle east and if something happens again in the near future (like Iran bombing the pavement of another US base, which they said they would do "soon") this bull run will probably keep on going hard.

[Anonymous No.16819693]

I just got a xxxx tier of capital and I don't feel like I can put it in any real worthwhile savings, I need the liquidity right now, so I started looking into stocks, and I felt like Nvidia, Google and Apple would be some good stocks to put money in for a few months after checking them out and simulating some wallets
then I come here and I don't understand what you're all talking about and I'm scared

[Anonymous No.16819705]

Is agriculture going to boom after this shit is ratified?

[Anonymous No.16819733]

>>16819693
Put a ton in dividend stock and live off the interest for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous No.16819759]

Imagine if you'd bought AMD when it shat down to just $2 a share.. It's at $48 a share now. $1000 would've netted you 500 shares. 500 x 48 = 24,000 profit. A 6000 investment (3000 shares) would be worth now 144,000. Those who took the plunge are being well rewarded now.

[Anonymous No.16819782]

>>16818747
I don't think the US was forced to talk in the past few years when NK try various things in the past few years, instead it is because the current South Korea government actively push for peace talk in the region and Japan is also not interested in escalating the situation, so the Trump authority went with it and try to take what they can from it. On the other hand, in Iran's situation, other gulf states are also in the interest of escalating conflict against Iran and Trump is also in the mood of doing so, thus the situation have come to like this. Another different is that, during Obama era America reached a deal with Iran on the matter of nuclear while it's attitude on North Korea is generally a difficult one due to the conservative South Korea president in power during that period of time, so as Trump start his presidency, it also match his taste to step back from the relationship with Iran while warming up the relationship with North Korea.

[Anonymous No.16819786]

>>16818581
>>16819381
Thanks guys. It's just an Acorns account, but still. Good luck on your gains

[Anonymous No.16819795]

>>16819693
Google and Apple should be fine for at least a little while. Nvidia is a bit more risk. Pls don't be intimidated by the trading lingo. I swear it gets to the point of a pidjin language sometimes.

[Anonymous No.16819803]

>>16819733
Anon is right.

[Anonymous No.16819811]

>>16819330
>these people with their full names wearing a suit and tier throwing middle school insults at him
what a mad world we live in lads

Long defense stocks

[Anonymous No.16819839]

>>16819811
Not sure what twitter algorithm decided to show me this first, but it's pretty damn good.

https://twitter.com/awstar11/status/1216114470054813697?s=20

[Anonymous No.16819892]

>>16819733
>>16819803
How can I acquire dividend stocks? Doesn't the company give them out occasionally to shareholders?

>>16819795
Google seems reliable but I'm concerned with the whole youtube regulations stuff impacting it soon

[Anonymous No.16819911]

>>16819693

[Anonymous No.16819928]

Divvy income is not hard to figure out. The hard part is determining just how much your living expenses are. Cause whatever that amount is, that is the amount you need to be pulling down a year in divvy income. The good news is that this amount may not be real high after you eliminate such things as credit card debt or car payments from your yearly expense sucking list.

[Anonymous No.16819955]

>>16819759
1.82 here, first stock I bought back in 2015 because Nvidia was like 15x the price and I was too cheap to buy it. All I looked at back then was the price because I didn't know shit and I knew my friends were fighting over which one was better between the two, but my thought process was that if people are fighting which one is the best now(2015) then maybe the smaller company will be like the small fish that nibbles on the big fish, hence AMD will increase in price along with Nvidia over the next few years so I might aswell buy the cheap one.
AMD actually went down to 1.65 or something a few times after I bought and I remember how I panicked about it to my dad because it never recovered

[Anonymous No.16819982]

>>16819892
4 times a year is a fairly common divvy payout. Just browse what companies are like for dividends and what percentages they give.

For example, if you stuck $500,000 into Ford, who have a yearly divvy payout of 6%, you'd end up earning $32,500~ a year from your divvies.

Of course, in reality you're not going to lump it all into one share in case it fails and there's probably better companies out there, but you get the idea.

[Anonymous No.16820026]

>>16819982
Just want to reiterate that's just passive income as well. Not including potential gains of stocks you own.

[Anonymous No.16820062]

redpill me on penny stocks. this is /smg/, after all. i've got a coworker who made like 60k this year on penny stocks and now he's trying to get my brother in on the next one he's investing in, im trying to tell him about risk and gambling but he's like "lmao but look at all the money he made bro obv he knows something bro", it's frustrating. i think the guy is gonna lose his ass eventually when he gets on an inevitable losing streak, the guy has no risk, he never cuts losses he just waits and hopes.

but hey maybe im the stupid one and i should just be putting 50k into some meme stocks because i guess they'll all moon, eventually, i don't fucking know.

[Anonymous No.16820146]

>>16820062
I can't give much advice on the topic but learn from my key mistake; you aren't going to earn jack shit if you aren't buying quantities of 1000+ at a time unless you hit some miraculous moon mission.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16820149]

>>16817380
but this is exactly my point. capitalism isn't just a system of exchange, its also a process of production. not many people in finance understand that.

[savanon No.16820155]

>>16820062
Here is the redpill. Some pennystocks are practically zero risk if you do your dd. For example sava, although not so much a penny now, but has 0 risk, and a guaranteed 200% return in half a year. The key is dd, and knowing those essential 'somethings'. Obviously you don't set stop losses on these ones because mms will grab your shares.

[Anonymous No.16820159]

>>16819892
Joseph Carlson on YT seems to have a well performing, well diversified portfolio. Look into it.

[Anonymous No.16820162]

>>16820062
Stay away from penny stocks, but if your brother wants to be a tard so be it

[Anonymous No.16820174]

>>16820155
im curious what your DD entails, and what resources you use (or people in general use for penny stocks). also you'd probably be better off calling it FA.

[Anonymous No.16820212]

>>16820155
>Obviously you don't set stop losses on these ones because mms will grab your shares.

I can second this. I missed the MTNB pump because of a stop loss. Should have just held.

[savanon No.16820218]

>>16820149
No, capitalism as 'system of exchange' is enough. It makes sure that value is always created on average on transactions. Capitalism makes sure that both parties are slightly happier. You don't get this effect where the government sets what costs what and who pays who. Really, there should not be much more to it

[Anonymous No.16820220]

>>16819759
>Imagine if you'd bought AMD when it shat down to just $2 a share

Just be psychic bro! This second-guessing shit will drive you fucking nuts. It's not valuable.

[Anonymous No.16820227]

>>16819911

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16820245]

>>16820218
you can't escape capitalism as a system of production, as we live in a world of material commodities. Nor can we ensure value is always created on average, for that very reason: that is the kind of thinking that gets you to the idea that supply creates its own demand.

[Anonymous No.16820257]

>>16820220
can't This this enough. stop talking about the past and start talking about the future direction of price instead because that's the entire fucking game ffs.

what's the *next* AMD? much better question. the key is how do you know? not in the future but right now. are you willing to put your money where your mouth is?

[Anonymous No.16820263]

>>16820227

[savanon No.16820297]

>>16820174
It consists of everything. I like small cap bio since it is easier, because knowledge is public, and it is the most important long term. You have the resources to know the company's product better than the board and the ceo, by reading papers and patents. What happens behind closed doors is less important, so that's an enormous plus. Then you check the filings, financials, management, etc. It consists of checking the competition as well, but to a lesser degree. Plus points if there is no competition, again this is common in bio, less common everywhere else

[Anonymous No.16820341]

>>16820297
Have you seen ONTX? What is your opinion?

[savanon No.16820390]

>>16820245
It being a 'system of production' comes naturally once everyone is free to buy and sell with low control and intervention. It ensures the value creation. Why would you exchange your stuff for something you value less? Obviously, value is not objective, but rather personal. A chair's value should differ from person to person, the same for 1000 bucks. The point is both parties are more satisfied after the transaction. Yes there are people who do not, but those are beggars and lowlifes everywhere else. This is natural, a society has the same principles of evolution as everything else

[Anonymous No.16820397]

I can't figure out why the hell there are a big difference in fees for some ETFs tracking pretty much the same index and has a comparable size.
Like these two:
https://www.justetf.com/de-en/etf-profile.html?isin=IE00BQN1K901

https://www.justetf.com/de-en/etf-profile.html?isin=IE00B4K48X80

Anyone has any idea why?

[savanon No.16820413]

>>16820341
I like the lowcapness and cancer indication, but didn't have serious time for it. Cancer is generally good because of unmet need, and is easy to measure, and you can see it working already in preclinical stage. So no serious opinion sadly

[Anonymous No.16820443]

ONTX will one day be like SAVA. 52w low of SAVA is 0.86 cents. Now it's at $8 something. ONTX has several things going for it. Deals in place to roll out the drug upon the FDA greenlight. Several drugs in the pipeline at various stages of development. Big shot money investment groups are loading up more shares. Good news pending on drug trial status. The earning report is due to come out in 74 days. Also they're at the healthcare conference going on now. Who knows what all good things are happening in hush hush meetings as we speak. Hell for all I know Big Pharma may be giving them the buyout eye right now.

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16820490]

>>16820390
think for a moment about what would then be value of capital, of those factors of production. The sale of the means production is predicated on the end goods being valuable, but this cannot be known ahead of time. Indeed, when there are systemic imbalances, this leads to a crash. Because value is objective, in this sense, in any market there is an average statistical price. And this price is determined in the long run by the prices of production, and from there the average labor time. You can not abstract away how people plan and produce according to these objective prices, because once you do, you are not looking at an actually existing society.

[Anonymous No.16820525]

>>16820443
cute AND adorable

new thread:
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[Anonymous No.16820969]

>>16820490
>muh rational world circle jerk
Leling at your objective value measurement

[gommie faggot !!ybZU7IbD8fv No.16820996]

>>16820969
value is objective, I never said it was rational. only Austrian and neoclassical economists suggest that.