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[Anonymous No.16889504]

BIZ GET THE FUCK IN HERE.....SOMETHING IS FISHY WITH THE RIPPLE SECURITIES CASE

Ok been looking into the ripple securities case.....the biggest 2 plaintiffs are Avner Greenwald and David Oconer.....why are these two individuals the head of marketing and media companies?

The guy who instigated it is Vladi Zakinov and this guy is has tons of cases suing people for dumb shit.......

[Anonymous No.16889514]

Shutup you fucking retard faggut

[Anonymous No.16889531]

Call me when you get less retarded

[Anonymous No.16889535]

The picture speaks truth

[Anonymous No.16889552]

>>16889531
how the fuck am I retarded you mong? You havent supplied one rebuttal.

[Anonymous No.16889564]

XRP IS A SCAM. SELL YOUR COINS NOW. PUMP AND DUMP JEWCOIN SCAM!!!!

[Anonymous No.16889576]

All the shills that immediately showed up is speaking truth........DONT LET THIS SLIDE, SOMETHING IS DEFINITELY FISHY

[Anonymous No.16889621]

https://coil.com/p/XRP_Productions/David-Schwartz-Appears-on-Joe-Rogan-Forgets-to-Mention-XRP-or-Ripple/T1q2Be8Yb

[Anonymous No.16889634]

>>16889564
If its a jewcoin scam why is the plaintiffs team ALL JEWS

[Anonymous No.16889671]

The lead plaintiff is an Israeli citizen......and tbe lead of a digital marketing company!!!! This doesnt ring any fucking bells for you??!?!?!?!

[Anonymous No.16889685]

bumping epic xrp thread

[Anonymous No.16889715]

>>16889685
this is getting slid fucking hard....gotta keep this on the catalog

[Anonymous No.16889739]

So it looks like from here, Israelis are getting good goys in the US to leep this tied up in court.....and none of the dockets I have found link to any monies actually lost by the investors

[Anonymous No.16889745]

btw biz just wants to sell their link bags they bought at $4.00

they're gonna fud xrp even when it breaks $20 lol

[Anonymous No.16889780]

the request by the lawsuit also makes no sense theyre trying to create a trust for xrp holders.....non of what theyre asking can inheritly be done.

[Anonymous No.16889808]

The plaintiffs of these lawsuits are now requesting to have their lawsuits split up and returned to state court level. Additionally, they requested that Ripple should pay their legal fees, claiming that the removal to federal court level wasn’t based in law or fact

WHY DONT THEY WANT THE LAWSUIT AT FEDERAL LEVEL.....WHY DO THEY WANT TO KEEP IT AN ONGOING STATE LEVEL CASE??????

[Anonymous No.16889810]

>>16889780
the lawsuit finally ended. now.

[Anonymous No.16889831]

>>16889810
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/8150354/zakinov-v-ripple-labs-inc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

I think not faggot

[Anonymous No.16889834]

>>16889810
it hasnt yet....its still "in the air" for some reason

[Anonymous No.16889837]

>>16889810
yeah so ripple ceo will be the richest man in the history of the planet for literally printing his own money, imaginary meme money and selling it to boomers. Thats how the world works.
>imagine unironically believing this

[Anonymous No.16889889]

>>16889837
yeah and bitcoin was created out of thin air and mining is controlled by china now, whats your point?

My point is that this whole case looks like an elaborate red herring

[Anonymous No.16889908]

>>16889834
it's over, just hasn't been announced publicly.

[Anonymous No.16889925]

>>16889908
but do you understand why this is wierd....a serial sue case spinner with israeli handlers and a lawsuit that doesnt have a leg to stand on in federal court?

[Anonymous No.16889939]

>>16889504
JEWCOIN SCAM PUMP AND DUMP. GET OUT OF THIS COIN ASAP

[Anonymous No.16889976]

>>16889925
>2 new posts
yes dude which is why im bumping this thread.

doesnt matter, it's gonna explode soon anyway. most of crypto will, i believe xrp will be one of the handful left though for sure. probably will be #1 as well. screen shot this

[Anonymous No.16889985]

WHAT IS HAPPENING??? Why is XRP the most mysterious, fudded, and cheap coin in the top 5? This shit is just so eerie

[Anonymous No.16889993]

>>16889976
all this with Davos 2020 right around the corner....shit is really wierd.. why would they want (a securities violator) at Davos unless the trial is all smoke and mirrors?

[Anonymous No.16890067]

>>16889985
and why has this lawsuit caused the price to drop so much........someone is lining their coffers

[Anonymous No.16890069]

>>16889985
it'll all make sense soon enough

[Anonymous No.16890132]

the lawsuit was filed on jul3 2018....and the plaintiff was representing "all those that bought" on or after july 2015.....

[Anonymous No.16890167]

https://ripple.com/insights/the-road-to-davos-building-a-payment-system-in-the-spirit-of-the-internet/

>> in 2016

They have gone every year and NOTHING HAPPENED

[Anonymous No.16890196]

>>Receives 200 million in funding because do not have new buyers to dump on

>> BG " If ripple the company were to close , XRP will still be there"
>> With the BAG HOLDERS

https://ripple.com/insights/ripple-caps-record-year-with-200-million-series-c-funding/

[Anonymous No.16890204]

>>16890167
yes but this year countries are now issuing their own digital assets

[Anonymous No.16890232]

>>16889985
What is supply
What is...

Whatever not gonna waste time on retard faggots

[Anonymous No.16890254]

>>16890232
a supply that can actually handle being used by banks

[Anonymous No.16890334]

>>16890204
Source?

[Anonymous No.16890392]

>>16890334
https://hackernoon.com/cbcd-19-countries-creating-or-researching-the-issuance-of-a-digital-decentralized-currency-b57a609e695b

[Anonymous No.16890440]

>>16889535
>truth
don't see any digits nig

[Anonymous No.16890498]

>>16889621
Hahaha oh wow

[Anonymous No.16890565]

>>16890498
this article is a joke, the picture is obviously shooped

[Anonymous No.16890568]

>>16889808
>WHY DO THEY WANT TO KEEP IT AN ONGOING STATE LEVEL CASE?
He's making the legal fees as large as possible I'd say. The state level has less funding & probably easier to prove against someone with deep pockets (ripple).
>>16890067
Cause it can't be adopted once it's proven to be a security. It's a very dangerous hodl.
>>16890132
That way he can sue for a large amount that injured the whole public with his tort claim. can't remember what they call it in the states.
>>16890196
isn't this series funding evidence that it is a security? thats what series funding is all about, securities.

personally I can't believe this case isn't over either OP, it pretty obvious to the initiated.

[Anonymous No.16890761]

>>16890568
Exactly, its a security. Drop your bags now. Sell it off asap.

[Anonymous No.16890783]

>>16890568
So what do you think? It gets ruled s a security then held up in appeals court for eternity, or gets ruled a commodity and moons?

[Anonymous No.16890884]

>>16890568
it makes me think this case is smoke and mirrors for intrested parties who want to accumulate for next to nothing

[Anonymous No.16890889]

>>16889504
XRP actually is not for transfering value
XRP is one of chosen coins

[Anonymous No.16890922]

if xrp and really had the chance of being labelled a "security" why in God's name would ripple be spending 200 million to promote it. If there was a chance that it could be labele a security they could have easily cut and run by now and focus solely on ripplenet

[Anonymous No.16890934]

>>16890889
elaborate?

[Anonymous No.16890943]

>>16890922
checked

[Anonymous No.16890952]

>>16890783
I think as soon as whomever wants to accumulate is done it will get dropped and memory holed

[Anonymous No.16890981]

>>16890934
XRP is meant to hold value
It will be one of the central parts of new world

[Anonymous No.16890986]

>>16890943
this shit reeks of gefilte fish......just like when all of those smiling faces on the tv were saying years ago that btc is useless and were accumulating at low prices..... i mean just look at the plaintiff team, looks like a bar mitvah invitation list

[Anonymous No.16891001]

>>16890981
yes, its meant to quickly and cheaply move lots of money around for banks in a trusted environment.

[Anonymous No.16891031]

JEWS ARE buying xrp ALOT

[Anonymous No.16891067]

>>16891001

[Anonymous No.16891105]

>>16890783
>gets ruled a commodity
Its most likely not a commodity, if you XRP guys took the time to realise why BTC/PoW got ruled a commodity & not a security you'd see. See the below link for the guidelines of the '15 ruling.
https://digitalcommons.law.msu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1003&context=jbsl
The common enterprise part is what kills XRP, you don't even need to read the rest.
>>16890884
The only thing they want to accumulate is fiat i'd say. Have a look at the above link, XRP is so much closer to a security. I know most of this board wasn't in crypto in '15 & make wild assumptions on what makes a security, i.e tons think that if its decentralised its not a security...these laws where written in the '30s centralisation never came into it, except if your talkin about its creation.

[Anonymous No.16891154]

>>16891105
Then why would they fight it beindirected to federal court. If they had a substantial case that would ultimately be in their favor. They want it to stay in state court for a reason.

[Anonymous No.16891280]

>>16891154
Anything i'd have to say would be conjecture on this...but a win in state court is easier. I only had a scan of the below link, looks legit...
https://www.litigationandtrial.com/2013/01/articles/series/special-comment/judicial-vacancies/
sounds like the federal courts will delay 'justice'
aka ripple have paid ppl off at the federal level such as Clinton & Podesta, to give no justice or delayed justice at least.

[Anonymous No.16891368]

>>16891105
>>16891280
If you believe xrp will be ruled a security, you are a fool. Xrp has already been ruled as a commodity in international courts. But it will be ruled as a UTILITY TOKEN.

You're just spreading bullshit as usual in biz...

[Anonymous No.16891589]

>>16891368
>you are a fool.
Another typical ripple NPC, its not necessary to project
>Xrp has already been ruled as a commodity in international courts
Source? I had a quick look, i can't see anything, I'd say it doesn't matter anyways. The US will enforce their rule, they care not about other countries laws.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/31/515.329
also use .com/.net thats US jurisdiction or even if you use USD/have bank transactions that route through the US. the US can/will claim jurisdiction as they 'have an interest' in the matter
>But it will be ruled as a UTILITY TOKEN.
https://cryptopotato.com/sec-clarifies-stance-of-security-vs-utility-tokens/
You aren't treating it as utility, you want the price to rise...

Please read the below link, especially the 'common enterprise' part
https://digitalcommons.law.msu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1003&context=jbsl

[Anonymous No.16891729]

>>16891368
Tax wise, what would be better for us? Commodity or utility?

[Anonymous No.16891762]

>>16889531
Does he have your number?

Can I call too?

[Anonymous No.16891765]

>>16889810
>XRP
>$220
>Ever

[Anonymous No.16891782]

>>16891765
he meant .22 which is all that will ever happen

[Anonymous No.16891790]

>>16891589
Xrp gets fudded for days on end in every thread and you call me the NPC. OK buddy

>source
I am phone posting but I will get it to you when I get back home

>you want the price to rise
To the Lifeboats did an excellent 17 minute deep dive into the case. The points you are bringing up are moot.

Ripple also has the best lawyers resenting them and I do believe they have someone from the SEC on their team. I actually saw their defense and it's impressive.

You are just another dirty little peabrain fudder that probably bought on the uptrend and lost money. It's too bad because XRP will be the new standard whether you like it or not.

No one is actively pumping xrp on here. OP is asking the right questions because ultimately this is political theater and a setup

[Anonymous No.16891797]

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https://blog.naver.com/bisbisbisbis/221774919412

[Anonymous No.16891805]

>>16891765
tell me with 50% in escrow, banks using it, and speculative holders it cannot reach that level
>inb4 muh mcap

crypto is going to be a reflection of fiat here soon

[Anonymous No.16891896]

>>16891765
>he doesnt know

go buy your fancy startup cryptos zoomer noob

[Anonymous No.16891946]

>>16891790
>you call me the NPC
You called me a fool, it goes both ways bucko. The name calling started from you, it was cordial before. I've posted links that back up my knowledge, yet to see any from yourself. You're repeating lines you don't understand, like an NPC
>I am phone posting but I will get it to you when I get back home
Great please post, but know that the US doesn't care about anyone else laws. The US goes after non citizens regularly. If US corporations can't use it then it can't get adopted
>You are just another dirty little peabrain fudder
Stop being a cunt, NPC, its one of the reason you cunts are hated so much.
This whole post is Hyperbole, hope you see that, NPC
>To the Lifeboats
Who is this? So you're NPCing him?
>OP is asking the right questions
Notice how I got him to stop...He listened to reason

Also, please address the series c funding ripple did...You know what series funding is used for right? I'll tell you, securities.

[Anonymous No.16891979]

>>16891896
i remember when pundix was shilled here constantly. So many shitcoins with no capital to go anywhere.

>yeah xrp is shit even though banks are already using ripple and testing xrp....my fanties drop panties cuz south aftrica and zimbabwe might use it hurr durr

[Anonymous No.16892006]

>>16891946
Look at this guy. Look at how fast keyboard warrior replies. You are so salty. Lmao. Brad Garlinghouse himself said xrp is not a security. Just go shove it up your ass buddy... Xrp ain't a security. Xrp is a Rothschild project, the richest people in the world back it. You're fucked lmao

[Anonymous No.16892071]

>>16891805
>crypto is going to be a reflection of fiat here soon
Hey OP, if crypto is a reflection fo fiat & the total global fiat = $88trillion with 7.5 billion people on this planet then theres $12k fiat for everyone on the planet, but there is 100 billion XRP. So if everyone changed all fiat to XRP & only XRP, it would be worth about $1200 per XRP at best.
so yea, muh mcap = D
>>16892006
>Brad Garlinghouse himself said xrp is not a security.
I stopped reading there, didn't even read the rest of your NPC relpy as it is missing a link, the one that proves XRP is a commodity.

[Anonymous No.16892130]

>>16892071
>xrp at 1200 at best
ok im still filthy rich if it hits 120 dollars whats your point?

[Anonymous No.16892139]

>>16892006
>Xrp is a Rothschild project
He thinks this is a good thing. Rothschilds lost control of world affairs in 2016 dumbo, try to keep up. They are in a struggle for power that they will ultimately lose.

[Anonymous No.16892163]

>>16892139
you’re funny

[Anonymous No.16892211]

>>16892139
>Rothschilds lost control of world affairs

oh my god people like this exist

[Anonymous No.16892231]

>>16892071
OK keyboard warrior. I'm screencapping all of your dumb shit and will put it in my xrp Fudders thread when xrp moons. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.16892304]

>>16892071
Oh and BTW you can go find the document yourself, in 2015 the US dpt of justice and treasury classified xrp as a "convertible virtual currency" case closed

[Anonymous No.16892355]

How much XRP should I buy

[Anonymous No.16892371]

>>16892355
at least 1000

[Anonymous No.16892382]

>>16892130
>whats your point?
Just that market cap does matter & that some of the wild numbers thrown around for XRP are insane.
I truly do wish you the best of luck anon, think of how rich we'll all be if XRP goes from $.20 to to $120!
>>16892304
I wondered if you'd use that...you need to re read that, its a plea bargin by ripple to the US justice dept. in which ripple admits they pre mined XRP & need to AML. case closed, by ripple none the less. Shame you don't understand that document. Also in '15 things where just getting figured out, regulatory wise. Lastly, thats not about XRP being a commodity.
NEXT NPC argument please

[Anonymous No.16892576]

>>16892382
No, you need to re read it. the ruling suggests that xrp is a currency. The plea bargain has nothing to do witb it. Case closed. It's the first part of Ripples actual defense, if you bothered to read it.

>commodity
https://www.fca.org.uk/publication/consultation/cp19-22.pdf

Here it is from the Financial conduct authority. They treat xrp as a currency and or commodity.

I'm screencapping all of your stupidity for the celebration thread.

[Anonymous No.16892697]

>>16892382
Also you realize the SEC sat on the sidelines for fucking years while xrp was being sold? It's been what, 7 years? None of this matters, this whole debate is around nothing, it will be up to FinCen, SEC, and CFTC to decide. There must be new regulation coming down the pipe in the Crypto currency Act of 2020

[Anonymous No.16892788]

>>16892576
sure, it's a 'currency' in a forex way, all of 'crypto' is. It doesn't excuse it from being a security under the purview of SEC, as these this court case wouldn't exist nor the controversy.
'Currency' has such a lose definition
Its still a plea bargain, where ripple admitted guilt.
>https://www.fca.org.uk/publication/consultation/cp19-22.pdf
Thats UK regulation, they have different regs...Also, That is not an international court ffs. the US won't give a shit.
>I'm screencapping all of your stupidity for the celebration thread.
You clearly never read the guidance that made BTC a commodity. I've posted it, have a read. You'll see that b/c it was mined by a community it was deemed not to be of common enterprise therefor a commodity, ripple already admitted to premining...
>>16892697
>Also you realize the SEC sat on the sidelines for fucking years while xrp was being sold?
Things take years, it took 5 years for BTC to be regulated. ripple are paying the right ppl Clinton & Podesta for example, I'd say ripple paid to be in the act below.
> Crypto currency Act of 2020
I've read, interesting, especially for XRP as they AML. I can't see the FED/SEC giving up power though.

[Anonymous No.16892953]

>>16892697
read this fren
https://bitcoinist.com/ripple-and-xrp-mentioned-in-official-us-bill-proposal/

[Anonymous No.16893056]

>>16892788
You're incredible. You have all the rebuttals and documents lined up. Even if your rebuttals are garbage. Great job. I'm sure you're doing this for the greater good, you just want to warn people about how bad of an investment xrp is. You can't possibly have an ulterior motive.

I'm screencapping all of his incredible fud.

>>16892953
Oh yeah I'm aware of that. You have got to be in full denial at this point. The mooning is inevitable.

[Anonymous No.16893131]

>>16893056
Let them fud. We don't have to convince anyone. This whole lawsuit is a red herring, its obvious to anyone who can read politics.

[Anonymous No.16893177]

digital dollas and euros will RUNS ON RIPPLE

XRP TOO DA MOOOON

do the needful sirs

[Anonymous No.16893195]

>>16893056
>You're incredible
Thanks anon
>Great job.
Thanks
>I'm sure you're doing this for the greater good,
Thats how it started pretty much
>You can't possibly have an ulterior motive.
only to educate, believe what you want, at least my world view has a basis in reality & isn't hyperbole. You can't even be asked to read documents about the regulation of cryptocurrency.
You take it personally, your too attached to your 'investment'

[Anonymous No.16893231]

>>16893195
>Tryhard fudding
>I'm doing it for the greater good
>Please believe me

I've seen this before so many times. And every time I ignored people like you I came out on top. Guess I gotta do it again.

[Anonymous No.16893528]

>>16892139
>Rothschilds lost control of world affairs in 2016
Then why is the XRP community always celebrating Trump's involvement with Ripple?

[Anonymous No.16894145]

>>16893528
There is no Trump involvement in Ripple retard.

[Anonymous No.16894186]

>>16894145
Mnuchin met with the Ripple team you dumb nigger. You people are in complete denial