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"...cash is not a very convenient store of value..."
— Janet Yellen (Federal Reserve Chair), Q&A after speech March, 2015
"By your wisdom and your understanding you have made wealth for yourself, and have gathered gold and silver into your treasuries;"
- Ezekiel 28:4 ESV

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PRICE OF GOLD / SILVER (against currency)
https://goldprice.org/

Ways to invest in Gold (and in turn other metals):
- Physical Gold <--------------------------------- Ideal
- Sovereign gold bonds (SGBs)
- Mining stocks
- Gold backed Crypto, i.e. Tether Gold (XAUt) and others
- Cashless Lending to Goldshops (for i.e. 2% at GoldSilbershop.de)

Wiki on verification of gold.
https://www.wikihow.com/Tell-if-Gold-Is-Real

Bullion tax info by state:
https://www.apmex.com/state-sales-tax-information

Recommended online dealers for
>US:
https://www.jmbullion.com/
https://www.apmex.com/
https://silvergoldbull.com/
https://monumentmetals.com/
>EU
https://www.europeanmint.com/
https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/

Gold Panning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCL6FKQZyoM [Embed] {Embed} [Embed]

Spot silver deals & a good site to check prices of competitors:
https://findbullionprices.com/buy-silver-at-spot-deals.php

YouTube/Reading Resources:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK2Y9fVEbD0 [Embed] [Embed][Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsUaTzRCv68 [Embed] [Emdeb] [Embed] [Embed]
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/gold-silver-ratio

>> No.17625624

First for $13 silver next week

>> No.17625693

>>17625624
This.

>> No.17626300

>>17625624
Will buy so many rolls of ASE if that happens.

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Stacklet reporting.

>> No.17626419
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Kookaburras will rule the world

>> No.17626549

>>17625624
>$13 silver next week
based just bought 100 worths, will buy more if that happens

>> No.17627018

>>17625624
for paper, maybe. If you paid attention the last "drop" down to $16 no silver was actually being sold at that price.

>> No.17627221

okay, I'm new to this, so go easy:
>Bullionbypost
>1 x 2020 Britannia One Ounce Silver Coin = €32.84
>4 x 2020 Armenian Noah's Ark, 1/4oz Silver Coin = €52.64 ( with 5 x = €50.45)
Why would I buy the Armenian Ark when I can just get the single Oz for much less?
Is it purely for the convenience of having it divided into smaller denominations?

>> No.17627253

>>17627221
It's called premium.

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>>17627253
M8. you know I don't know what to make of that response.

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>>17627297
You can buy silver in many forms with many prices/oz.
Cheapest would be buying 100kg bar, most expensive jewlery.
The more work goes into production the more premium you pay.
4 small coins from Caucas mountains cost more than 1 uk made.
Silver chart says $17, but you pay $20? $3 premium.

>> No.17627370

>>17627221
>>17627297
A premium is cost above the material price. American Silver Eagles are more desirable so they're worth more. A random 5oz bar or buffalo rounds are only going to be worth spot price.

>> No.17627393

>>17627367
>>17627370
Ah, thanks fellas.
At the end of the day, silver is silver, though.
Looks like I'm going for that Brittania ounce.

>> No.17627425

>>17627393
Yes, just choose something with good liquidity. Something easy to sell for a price you paid.
Also see there is no capital gain tax if you sell them in uk.

>> No.17627465

>>17627425
Neat, thanks for the advice.
I would imagine "junk" silver wouldn't be the best bet for that sort of thing, requiring traders to drill into it to verify its content and such.

>> No.17627474

>>17625624
Not a chance in hell

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My 5 came in on Friday haven't had time to put them in my safe.

>> No.17627561

>>17627543
>more cornpuffs than silver
At least you won't starve

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17627661

I'm so proud of you goys, seeing more and more of you lose faith in the fiat currency and smoke & mirrors economy that the system offers, wanting something real instead, and working to free yourselves from (((global finance))).

Stack it deep, frens. This board gets comfier every day.

>> No.17627692

You don't invest in silver you fools, it's an industrial metal and will go down not up when the pandemic really hits. Gold is what you want.

>> No.17627716

>>17627221
Use European Mint you dumb ass, why are you paying VAT for nothing?

>> No.17627757

>>17627692

Why Silver is a better investment right now:

1) Gold has almost doubled in the last few years. Silver has remained at basically the same price, plus or minus about three dollars. Nothing close to double, therefore it has a lot more "space" to climb relative to Gold under current conditions

2) 1 oz silver round/coin = <$20
1 oz gold round/coin = ~$1,700

What are you going to do when you want to barter for $20 worth of eggs and grain from a farmer, or you need a ride from someone who still has a working vehicle and who will drive you there for $40 (usd equivalents of course) but all you have is a single $1700 coin, instead of a bag of <$20 coins?

You have money but you can't spend it. Unlike the Silverchads

>> No.17627830

>>17627757
If you were smart you'd have both; Use silver and copper for everyday purchases and gold for real estate or settling business deals.

>> No.17627850

>>17627661
I really would like to see what a world operating under a sensible financial system would look like.

>> No.17627869

>>17627830
>copper
nobody is going to want that shit

>real estate
what fantasy world are you living in where you're buying real estate with gold?

>> No.17628090

>>17627757
Sure if that's the scenario you want to prepare for then silver makes sense, but the chance of a complete societal collapse and a worthless dollar is extreeeemely low.

>muh ratio
That is not an argument. Gold and silver are two completely different assets. That's like saying tech companies will fall 99% in value because 50 years ago the sector was very small. Gold is a good investment because central banks has resorted to increasingly loose monetary policy to prop up the economy through low interest rates and QE, and they can't go back because of the very high debt levels everywhere in the economy. The only way out is to keep inflating.

We are overdue for a recession which corona will probably kick off which will mean even more loose monetary policy. We might see deglobalization to some extent as companies now realize how exposed their supply chains are, which along the the general supply chain disruptions may cause inflation. All good for gold. If the pandemic gets out of hand I think we will see gold $2500-3000/ounce within 12 months.

>> No.17628211

>>17627869
>the best time to invest into real estate is when blood runs on the streets
>bucko

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>>17628090
>the chance of a complete societal collapse and a worthlass dollar is extreeeeemely low
>he doesn't know about the upcoming -energy-industrial-mining- collapse
>he doesn't know about the coming post-industrial age
>he still believes the shilling of technology and perpetual advancement

ooh boi are you in for a ride

>> No.17628487

>>17628090
>We might see deglobalization to some extent as companies now realize how exposed their supply chains are
It won't be deglobalization, just a different flavour of globalization. Does it really make a difference if the factories are only in China, or in China, Vietnam and India?

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>>17628487
If it didn't carry any premium to diversify their supply chain, they would have already done, so yes from an inflation stand-point it will matter. But probably not that much, this isn't the meat and potatoes of the gold bull thesis.

Record new infected numbers in Europe today. Looks like it's gonna be a comfy monday goldchads.

https://twitter.com/BNODesk

>> No.17628695

Should I even get more silver? I’ve got 25 more ounces coming, I have about 20k usd I want to invest into something. I really need to make it this coming recession or I’m gonna snap I hate my life and living with mommy.

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>>17628695

>> No.17628729

>>17628695
Depends on how much you want to bet against fiat. There's some really good deals on older year ASE monster boxes.

>> No.17628767

>>17628729
I’m willing to bet against it but if I can’t afford a house in about 3 years I’m probably gonna kms (cheap in my area at least)

>> No.17628768

>>17628621
I was looking at it more from the cultural side of things.
We'll never be free of globalist bullshit.

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if precious metals are so precious and rare, why are we able to buy them so easily for fake&gay fiat zogbucks printed ad infinitum? think about it rationally. think about how much energy, time, manpower, equipment is required to pull ore out of the deep ground, and these mines are very deep. miners often die in these dangerous operations. there's only a few mines left that operate, and many are in actual dangerous shitholes like south africa. so considering this fact, why on earth would any sane retailer or even lowly ebay seller want to sell even one tiny gram of precious metals for fucking pieces of paper printed without any limit. anyone selling PMs must be absolutely insane. doesn't matter what company, apmex, jm, sd, they're all bonkers, or, perhaps fiat is indeed worth the effort to participate in this whole exchange.

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>>17628768
Sure we will brother. The times are changing.

>> No.17628824

>>17628786
back in 2017-2018 i was desperate for cash because i fucked up, and wanted to sell like 35 oz. silver. baby stack. called up a very reputable coin shop in socal, and the guy basically told me he's only interested in buying 100+ oz at a time, and so just a small transaction of 35 oz. wouldn't even be worth his time. i had sunshine mints in capsules, too so it wasn't junk silver. think about that. someone turned me down for a $600 transaction. he's probably sitting in his store doing nothing during downtime anyway. and yet he didn't want to buy. but he was willing to sell 1-2 oz. for whoever walks in off the street. that really made me think...you need a lot of silver
to actually have a "make it" stack.

thanks for reading my personal blog.

for more interesting historical info, look up "Lucky Baldwin". he made his fortune from silver mining stocks, not from owning actual silver.

>> No.17628900

>>17628824
1 ounce silver coins is poo level investing. Firstly silver is shit and secondly you pay a huge premium to the metal value when buying these coins. GLD calls is the chad move, IV is still super low so you can get them cheap.

>> No.17628948

>>17628695
$20k in precious metals, in a post collapse scenario is what we think of today as multimillionaire levels of wealth. You could buy real estate with that, scoop up peoples assets for pennies on the dollar paid in p/m and they'll be happy to sell them to you for that just so they can eat.

Thats worst case scenario, I don't know if it'll get that bad. But best case scenario is they hold their value against inflation more or less and if you get bored in a few years you could sell them an invest in something else.

Anon, THE WORST THING YOU COULD BE DOING RIGHT NOW IS SITTING ON CASH

We're basically guaranteed at least some quantity of inflation coming any second when (((they))) try to print their way out of the coming/current economic slowdown.

Ask yourself... How much faith in the (((system))) do you have, right now?

>> No.17629016

>>17628948
Should I get the rest gold? I have 330 ounces of silver

>> No.17629119

reminder that you lose like 20% whenever you buy or sell PMs lol

buy $10K worth of gold and now you have $8k good job retards haha

>> No.17629165

>>17629016
Definitely. Realistically we will see gold at $1600-3000 in the next 18 months, very little downside. You won't become a millionaire without leverage though, I would get a few calls for leverage, like I said the IV is very low. A jan 2022 at the money call will net you 700% profits if gold goes to $3000.

>> No.17629202

>>17629119
$GLD

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>>17625624
If this happen i unironically take loans and max out my credit card to buy as much as possible in the time frame.

>> No.17629217

>>17629016
Honestly anon, if it was my money, I would get 20-30% Gold max, just in case it REALLY moons hard. I'd be 70-80% into silver, in 1 ounce pieces.

I say this because they're easily divisible for small purchases, and unlike what people say, the premiums arent more, or much more than 100 ounce bars. The cheapest 1 oz rounds I found a while back, versus the cheapest 100 oz bars, it was like a $10 or $20 difference between the two, buying 100 rounds or 1x 100oz bar. Get on sdbullion or provident metals (they're usually the cheapest) and look around if you don't believe me.

Its totally worth being able to divide them up. Especially if the government someday makes it illegal or places special taxes on selling bulk silver, which they might define as being more than 50 ounces, or 100 ounces, if things get really bad and they try a power grab as things fall apart.

Then what are you going to do?

If thats too much of a percentage in silver for you fren, maybe get some Platinum. Its a high value metal like Gold, but hasnt increased in price like Gold has. If I didnt want to be 80% into silver, I'd buy:

20% Gold
20% Platinum
60% Silver

Now you have all your bases covered. Small silver rounds for daily transactions, plus bigger "chunks" for larger purchases of bigger assets AND to have all your bases covered if silver underperforms.

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>>17627221
>1 x 2020 Britannia One Ounce Silver Coin = €32.84

>buying anything more than 3€ above spot price
ngmi, your reptilianica shitcoin should be worth 18€ max.

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my humble stack I just bought for a little over 11k

>> No.17629425

>>17629363
Is it kosher to let your gold coins out of the wrapper, but people lose their shit and pretend if you open 1oz bars, they become completely worthless?

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>>17627692
You do realize that (including yourself) we're all poor as goyim on this board, right?
Silver and labor is truly the only thing we have left to combat these vampire jews.
What's a vampire's weakness? Silver, you dumb dumb.
These vampires steal our wealth through taxes & usury and suppress the true value of silver through a massive paper market.
How the fuck is gold & silver a (((commodity)))?
Every time I go to my coin shop, I think to myself that that motherfucker is going to be the New King once this economic ponzi scheme implodes. I probably won't ever see that dude ever again once he runs for the hills.

>> No.17629508

>>17629363
Those Silver coins could use some cleaning.

>> No.17629617

>>17629508
>>17629508

I heard somewhere that polishing coins hurts the value?

And I was concerned about their quality myself, but it's still silver - so I think it's good.

>> No.17629656

Does anyone here buy 100g and 250g bars?
What about 2oz and 5oz coins?

>> No.17629691

>>17629656
gold or silver?

>> No.17629713

>>17629691
silver

>> No.17629749

>>17629713
I bought 1kg,500g and 250g bars yesterday

>> No.17629786

>>17626419
Love me some kooks.

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>>17628767
Stay in the game bro.

>> No.17630135

>>17629425

These were all in a sleeve together like silver (is that what you call them, or rolls). I bought them from my boomer grandpa. He actually had like 30 in that one sleeve

>> No.17630148

>>17627850
It would be glorious and beneficial to all, even the godforsaken continent of Africa. But sadly, ((((they)))) have manipulated the last century too much for the system to make a peaceful transition into a truly free market system.

>> No.17630203

>>17628767
when i wanted to off myself one friend of mine said that i don't deserve the quick way out, not to experience and live through all the suffering - and somehoe he managed to switch on my masculine ego (something along the lines "who could that bear if not me")

ooh boy did i suffer since then, got close two times again to off myself but nowadays i am slowly getting used to the urges and they bother me less and less

>> No.17630246

>>17630203
Can I have your silver

>> No.17630277

Spending 1k om PM tomorrow, silver or gold coins?

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Precious metals are a scam

1) Gold is a non-performing asset. When you invest in stocks or something, your money is actually doing work in the economy, when you invest in gold it's sitting around inert.
2) The gold supply is NOT fixed, in fact it's probably set to increase drastically with new mines being found all the time, and new drilling technologies.
3) Gold is absolutely useless in a world where rule of law breaks down. You would probably want food and medical equipment instead.
4) Gold is not as easily divisible or easy to carry around as a credit card is. This entire argument is completely specious as if we don't live in a digital age.

>> No.17630302

>>17630277
>1k
Silver bars.

>> No.17630383

>>17630297
You fail to realize that most 4chan PM advocates are imagining a videogame-like SHTF scenario where their gold will both remain valuable and be traded for fairly. History shows that is rarely the case. Take former Yugoslavia for example. When law and order there broke down, people were trading gold rings and coins for rolls of toilet paper and bars of soap. You'd unironically be better off buying these simple items along with guns. At least then the items can actually be put to use or even increase in value in the case of guns.

>> No.17630413

>>17630297
>1) Gold is a non-performing asset. When you invest in stocks or something, your money is actually doing work in the economy, when you invest in gold it's sitting around inert.

False. Gold has yielded 5.5% annually since 1950. It has a natural yield due to productivity gains and will do much better than gov bonds with current monetary policy pushing down those yields to 0. If CBs don't start tightening (which they can't really do without crashing everything) gold will replace gov bonds as THE safe haven asset which will reprice gold much higher than the current $10T market value.

>> No.17630419

>>17630383
Post toilet paper closet.

>> No.17630468

>>17630383
You're pretending people into both guns and gold don't also have other supplies. why?

>> No.17631239

>>17629119
>what is xaut

>> No.17631423

what are the best mining stocks?

>> No.17631459

>>17631239
that's fine but people buying physical PMs are getting raped lol

>> No.17631530

>>17631423
GDX

>> No.17631540

I'm waiting for JPM to dump their SLV on a margin call, and then I will buy.

>> No.17631633

>>17631459
>people buying physical PMs are getting raped lol
people buying (((bullion))) coins/bar definitely are but "junk" silver collector chads (if purchased at spot price) will unironically make it
>>17631530
>GDX
will check it out, ty

>> No.17631738

>>17631459
>people buying physical PMs are getting raped lol
>>17631633
why?

>> No.17631850

>>17631633
Yeah I'd definitely rather have 90% silver dimes as opposed to 100% pure silver ASEs lmao

>> No.17631886

>>17631459
Only in the EU. I'm in a tax free state. So fuck you.

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>>17627850
https://youtu.be/iuQOyNFBOjI

>> No.17631965

>>17631850
>Yeah I'd definitely rather have 90% silver dimes purchased at 2020's spot price as opposed to 100% pure silver ASEs purchased at 2025's silver price ""lmao""
Nice cope, you fell for the bullion meme and fucked up but you are probably too proud to acknowledge that. Remember: ego is the enemy.

>> No.17632003

>>17631738
Because you are overpaying. Unirocanilly you are just paying for them because the are shinny. The premium you pay is not recoverable. (((They))) are winning no matter what the price is or will be.

>> No.17632041

>>17630277
get two 5 gram gold bars and the rest in silver. take the patient and balanced approach.

>> No.17632061

>>17632003
>not recoverable
Wrong. I'm actually in the green with my silver stack and gold stack although I'm way up in gold. Sounds like for someone who is so against stackers you sure come across as someone butthurt over those that enjoy stacking.

>> No.17632135

>>17632061
>I'm actually in the green with my silver stack
consider yourself lucky but most here (especially the newer ones) aren't and won't be for some time, which could turn long. Even PMBull Maloney is calling $14 silver in the short term.
>Sounds like for someone who is so against stackers
I never made that generalization. I'm a stacker myself. I'm particularly agaisnt bullion stackers, because I think they are retarded and very close to coonsumerism, not agaisnt all stackers, I think I might just got a lil bit under your skin for some reason?

>> No.17632234

>>17631633
the refining cost of junk silver is at least equal to the premium of prudently bought rounds or bars. Either of those are a better deal than govt coins tho.

>> No.17632325

>>17630277
1oz platinum.

>> No.17632411

>>17632234
Agreed

>> No.17632478

>>17631965
>what is cull

Have fun with your dimes bro

>> No.17632481

>>17627018
The store I buy my silver from sells at a set amount above whatever the spot price is, and I bought when spot price was just over 16$. Just because it's a manipulated price doesn't mean you can't get that deal yourself in physical silver.

>> No.17632511

>>17632234
Alright but I don't think you are going to ever need to refine them unless silver goes crazy, and at that point it won't really matter. I believe junk silver coins have become "investments vehicles" on their own because of their historical value

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this is an official silver bullion coin from mongolia: say something about it

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just started collecting
nheruter these few coins from my gramgram
finally took em out after seeing a few of these threads after a decade of forgotteness

i believe its gold and silver
anyone know anything about any of these people on then

how much gold and silver could these be worth/weighed/etc
i dont have a scale yet and nothing is amrked on then except some weird looking english type letters

>> No.17633532

>>17630383
That's what the silver is for bro. Gold is an asset to store your wealth. If something like Yugo happened again, gold would act as a cushion and you won't be completely broke once things get better.

Like >>17630468 said, I don't know of anyone whose into PM that isn't also into firearms, doesn't trust the government, and has food/supplies saved up.

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>>17633485
sorry for all the typos
tired from 12hr walmart shift

*inherited
**marked
etcetcetc

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took em to my local coin guy to be looked at
he said hed give me $500 straight up for all
but if i was patient
maybe hed find a buyer and get me 7-800

aaid they were foreign coins from early 1900s
like romanian or something
but gold and silver

sold 2 coins for 150$ to him

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went back the next day to sell more
but there was a sign that said the shop was closed indefinitely for no given reason

so i need to find another reliable dealer in my area i suppose

anyone in the cleveland area know any?

>> No.17633661

>>17633606
Try APMEX they have old coins like these and might buy them from you.

>> No.17633709

>>17629363
I can't decide if toned silver is ugly or beautiful. I love me some shiny, but there's just something about natural tarnishing that makes me feel comfy inside.

>> No.17633938

>>17633485
beautiful coins. the very top left is a 4 drachma of alexander the great which would put it around 300BC i think.the middle gold and middle bottom silver/pewter coin look like they are much newer than the rest, thinking medieval european

>> No.17634119

>>17633569
>$500
thats a rip off for the gold coins. its not easy to find a buyer but the bullion in them alone should be higher. id guess the left gold is over 1k atleast. its just rare to find gold coins that old, its got to be atleast 1500 years old. middle looks much more modern, but is probably close to a quarter ounce of gold. the right could be an old byzantine or italian states coin

>>17633606
probably retired from selling the coins you sold him for $150 kek

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>>17625556
I am halfway to my suicide stack of silver.

>> No.17634301

Is it too late to get into gold?

>> No.17634347 [DELETED] 
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17634347

>>17629363
Stack thread?

>> No.17634381

>>17634347
'Mirin'

>> No.17634618

>>17634347
I’m peanut butter and jealous of that stack. Well done soon to be Lord of his perish anon

>> No.17634651
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https://youtu.be/HpyuHqeodyY

>> No.17634677
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17634677

All in platinum and silver.

>> No.17634780

>>17634347
How much that is?

>> No.17634837

>>17634677
Based, same.

>> No.17634867
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>>17634301
No, just wait for the next price correction if you want to get in and probably limit yourself to an ounce maximum if you have no gold yet. Just remember, you are likely buying at or near the beginning of the peak of a bull market. I myself am buying mostly silver, with hope of trading some for gold when gold silver ratio goes down.

>> No.17634954

>>17634677
>tfw want to stack plat but hate the Platinum Eagle design
I'll never understand why the Mint went with such a butt ugly design for their Platinum coin. It really triggers my autism that the Platinum Eagle is such an eyesore when Silver, Gold, and Palladium eagles are some of the most aesthetic coins on the market.

>> No.17635028

>>17634954
Buy ms70 australian lunars instead.

>> No.17635552

>>17627757
fractional gold is the answer.

>> No.17635933 [DELETED] 

>>17634780
Enough.

>> No.17636052

>>17634867
>peak of the bull market
>as the global economy is in current free-fall
PMs, and to a much lesser extent, Crypto are about to be on the rise due to basic international trade instability, it doesn't take a genius to know that independant stores of wealth fare better in times of decline. Add to that all the fucking debt that's going against currencies and it's a no brainer that PMs, the generally most reliable store of value throughout history are going to be in demand to back currency again.
Sorry bro but fiat is failing. Everybody has said for years that if Gold ever reaches 1600, it's gonna reach 2000 shortly after; and what do you know, it's licking that ceiling as China fucking implodes on itself and drags the world with it to hell. It's never going to reach le fantasy level of SHTF where bog roll is more valuable than gold; sorry for bringing reality into the equation.

The Bull hasn't even seen red yet. Once it reaches 1600, you're gonna see some real shit.

>> No.17636091

>>17636052
1600?

>> No.17636955
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>>17628090
more like dollar crash is extremely high
yields are so low it doesnt make sense why anybody keeps buying US bonds
the US dollar should be in a garbage bin right now already
think about it logically

>> No.17636995

>>17633485
>>17633536
those are awesome. id love to have something like that

>> No.17637006

>>17634119
>probably retired from selling the coins you sold him for $150 kek

this. wtf is this retard thinking. makes me sick

>> No.17637023

>>17636955
Johnson is probably right in the short and medium run, while Schiff is right in the long run.

https://youtu.be/hT32GoZNCaw

>> No.17637061

Let’s say the dollar dies like every fiat currency and goes to zero.

Would fifty 1 oz ASEs be enough to make it?

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>>17634347

>> No.17637164

Silver is a fucking scam lmao
Gold has rallied and silver has done jackshit but dump from 18 dollars. You are retarded for buying this metal dealer scam.

>> No.17637298

>>17637164
go back to your linkies pajeet shoo shoo

>> No.17638113

>>17636955
The dollar will devalue vs gold but it's not going to become worthless. The US is not Zimbabwe. But even if it did, another currency would be created to take over immediately after. Using silver coins for currency is a fantasy. Inflation will come, just like we have seen before in the 70s for example, and it will pass when CBs tighten policy.

>> No.17639071

>>17633392
Filthy stinking Jew

>> No.17639085

>>17633569
Don’t sell anymore you retard. They could be 100k each.

>> No.17639309

>>17628824
hes probably just assuming you stole it

>> No.17639346
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>>17627850

>> No.17639347

>>17633938
>>17636995
>thinking any of those are authentic
actual ancient coins are beat to shit and covered in dirt and grime that if removed removes all the value with it. Not to mention been clipped for every time there was a jew expulsion

>> No.17639391

>>17639346
>nazi economics
>sensible

>> No.17639404

>>17633536
Those are ancient greek coins. The gold ones alone you could of sold for around $5k minimum. You got jewed kek

>> No.17639445

>>17639404
theyre replicas and not even good ones

>> No.17640018

>>17637061
Well you'll be way better off than those with zero silver, but I don't think that amount will be a "make it" amount.

>> No.17640043

>>17639391
Germany was taking on massive debt in the years coming up to the war. Honestly it wasn't a bad idea because Germany was confident in winning the war anyways (so they didn't expect to pay back the debt).

>> No.17640099
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>>17630277
Put 990 on silver and $10 for a pizza as a reward for being smart fren.

>> No.17640111

>>17634347
Nice marquee bar

>> No.17640199

>>17632003
It's about a 9% hit for me accounting for premiums on buying and selling together. Theres like 20x as much paper silver as there is real silver as well so alot of those ETFs are likely insolvent. Even if they were solvent, you have to trust the custodians of the ETFs (JPM and HSBC for SLV and GLD, respectively) with your wealth which is against the point of owning metals in the first place.

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>>17631540
>implying JPM will dump their physical
You have no clues what's about to happen, right?
Few facts :
- after defeating Germany, the OSS promised SS officers in charge of hiding nazi's physical gold looted during the war a diplomatic immunity, no nuremberg trial and a US passport thanks to the paperclip exfiltration operation, US got hundreds tons in bars this way. Never the invaded country got back their gold, the US officially declared to never have found any gold, it was in reality used to create the Black Eagle Trust : a slush fund used to finance black ops the congress should not be aware about.
- during Japan free looting of China and SE-Asia, the US issued gold backed bonds they sold to rich chinks in exchange of their physical gold, the gold would be then returned to China once the japanese empire occupation ended. The FED issues for trillions in bonds, but did little (((mistakes))) and then argued it was falsificated bonds, and never gave back the gold. To this day this is still a very sensitive diplomatic issue between China and the US.
- few years after, the US defeated Japan. Japan who pillaged freely China and south-east Asia for decades, gathering the biggest war chest in the history of mankind. But because of the US submarine blockage of Japan, the nips had no other choice than hiding it in the Phillipines, buried on a little island. After the japan got defeated, the operation Golden Lilly was mounted by the navy and the OSS to find back the gold, using any mean necessary ; torture, threats, corruption.. It was a success, thousands TONS of gold were found, not disclosed, only added in the OSS (future CIA) black books.
Yet...
- fort knox is almost empty, half the bars are tungsten-filled, refuse audit since decades

Where is the gold? Do you have any idea where it went?

>> No.17640971

>>17640888
What's bad pic?

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17640996

>>17625556
>when the apmex box comes and you can hear the clinking when you pick it up

>> No.17640997

>>17640971
That*

>> No.17641012

>>17640888
Doesn't matter, banks will be forced to dump their most liquid assets (Gold, Silver) once the FED's repo becomes oversubscribed and collapses.

They are backed by subprime auto loans their asses can't cash. Prices will crash.

>> No.17641051

>>17630383
What’s stopping you from doing both?

>> No.17641079
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>>17640888
- even tho (((they))) kept artificially suppressing gold's value via COMEX's ETF/futures to promote their fiat ponzi scam as a safe haven (and in hope countries invaded by the nazi regime who transferred their gold in the US during WW2 to protect it, but never got it back, ask after it more vehemently, like France or Poland), BRICS country didn't fall for the trap and kept staking for cheap for the past 15 years in preparation of the $ hegemony collapse
- US on the other hand, even tho is not selling, isn't actively buying physical gold on the markets (beside few scam exceptions on their yuropoors/commonwealth puppets, like Sarkozy selling few tons of french gold for a ridiculously tiny price in 2008, or more recently Trudeau doing the same).
- remember the US special team created to steal Saddam trillions worth of gold during the Shock and Awe opex on Badghad?
- remember how Clinton & Sarkozy mounted the military operation to get rid of Gaddafi and steal all the gold he stacked to prepare his gold backed dinar to get rid of the USD in oil transactions? Remember the team of ex navy SEALS used to transport the gold outside of Lybia who all mysteriously died afterward?

All this gold never accounted in the books, who never went to fort knox... mhmm i really wonder where it went, do you too?

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>>17641079
I have Saddam's gold. AMA re dd it

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>>17641186

>> No.17641216
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>>17641204

>> No.17641235
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>>17641216

>> No.17641293

>>17641235
hard to believe they make out with any of it

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>>17641235

>> No.17641353

>>17640888
So is usa pumping dollars to not pay back gold bonds in full?

>> No.17641390

Does anyone know of a site to buy gold with Bitcoin (no kyc, no bitpay) USA ?

>> No.17641392

>>17641293
*didnt meant to say

>> No.17641405

>>17641390
>no kyc
>but ship it to my address under my name and have me sign for it

>> No.17641430

>>17641313
>>17641235
>>17641204
>those smug faces
So proud to fight for their kike overlords. They probably still believe that "weapons of mass destruction" bullshit to this day.

>> No.17641471

>>17641430
they are smiling because each men got to take 1 bar home :)

>> No.17641522
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Few more facts :
- In the meantime US banks of the FED cartel spent insane amounts of money every year to suppress silver price, to the point it was the only commodity performing worse than the USD, printed in the quadrillion range, even tho the industrial uses for the metal multiplied with the technologic era
- you now have 180 times more silver traded on the COMEX than the total mine supply.
- (((they))) went as far as modifying the law to forbid the Hunt brothers to try to corner the market in the 80's, yet they pretend not giving a fuck about silver
- you probably know JPM, while suppressing the price issuing ETF, accumulated 800 milions of physical oz. But what you probably don't know is where it is stocked : in bunkers of US military bases. Why would the gov protect JPM's silver? Why is JPM accumulating for so long such quantities? Reminder they started to stack after the subprime CDO/CDS 2008 crisis.
- biggest silver mines are in south america, mostly Peru and Mexico; close to daddy.
- during the 19th, the East Indian British company, the biggest company worldwide, had the quasi monopoly on the sea trade with China. Back then, gold was only a ceremonial object in China, they had a silver standard. But the problem is anglos were craving the chinese spices and tea, and Europe didn't have enough silver for the british empire to continue the trading with China, so what did they do? Yet, start the first opium war using their indian colonies to produce the drug. Once the chinese royalty ruled the consumption of opium as illegal, the brits considered it a threat to the free economy and as a good thalasocracy invaded the ports, made a blockade in the seas of China and forced the chinks to adopt the gold standard for future trades.

Maybe now you've an idea about what's coming?

>> No.17641548

>>17641471
>modern military
>allowing infantry to take anything home

They can't even keep their fucking gun anymore lol

>> No.17641562

I was about to pull the trigger on my first $2K into PM on silver, but am having second thoughts on not going into gold.
1. The silver/gold ratio is historically high, but it has been growing since days of old, indicating gold is more value.
2. Silver as an industrial metal - its use is likely being less used as people continue to refine products to be cheaper. This only serves to cheapen silver and a possible result of the widening silver/gold ratio.

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>>17641353
It's worse than that, the bonds' maturity happened in 2009. They mounted a fake news operation to claim the bonds were issued by the mafia, while in reality they were issued by the (((FED))). Being "forgeries", no need to pay them back. Trillions wiped clean from the bourgeoisy/aristocracy with one simple trick.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-bonds-forgery-idUSTRE81G11620120217

>> No.17641622

>>17641548
they get to keep their hats

>> No.17641625

>>17641313
them are some sloppy pours, i'd be shaving off those edges and pocketing them.

>> No.17641638

>>17641625
when they have tons of gold to pour, you just stop caring about pouring neat little bars

>> No.17641710

>>17641638
Does any actual mint use that as an excuse?
>Hey, we're the Perth Mint. We got a lot of shit to pour. Sorry your 30lb gold bar looks like a fried egg, but fuck off.

>> No.17641738

>>17641710
Well it's Iraq we're talking about here

>> No.17641764

>>17641522
Solid post.

>> No.17641949

>>17640888
>>17641079
so whats the endgame here?
the fuck does the government want with a yellow metal if we aren't on the gold standard anymore?

>> No.17641960

>>17628695
You can also semi-diversify into silver stocks

>> No.17641971

>>17641949
They are trying to make the biggest golden statue of Jesus in the world

>> No.17641981
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>>17641522
I'm sure you all figured it out by now, so with no further do let me tell you what is coming.

But before, just a little story all of you probably aren't aware about. Remember when i spoke about the Black Eagle Trust and Golden Lilly operations to recover WW2 gold not accounted anywhere?
Well it resurfaced on few occasions, the BET gold was used in 1991 by Greenspan, with Bush father approval, to issue gold backed bonds to buyout the soviet union industries in an effort to end the cold war using the economical weapon. It's hundreds of billions in gold who were used back then to totally neutralize Russia.
It did wonders, the soviet union collapsed, but it had some unexpected consequences. Since most of the operations were outside of the international regulations, countries who had economic ties with Russia started an investigation to understand what exactly happened. And the US were spooped because the gold used was stolen goods... But that's a long story.

Anyway, the US know they are at the end of the ponzi scam, they know the banks exposure is absymal. Before declaring bankrupcy, they will run a big last scam, printing to oblivion to refund their commercial balance toward China (and others countries) with worthless dollars. Of course the USD will totally implode, the markets will shart their pants and investissors will look up for stability and credibility. That's when Russia and China will use their huge gold stack to create the gold backed yuan and the gold backed ruble.
The US can't compete on the gold supply, and that's when their plan, using JPM to secretly build up a huge reserve, unfold : a new silver backed dollar. A silver convertibility who will be forced upon every other ally (read : lackey) of the US : yurop, OPEC, canada, commonwealth. Allies with 0 silver reserves, making the new S-USD the by default currency for transactions, forcing their allies to buy it for futures transactions - keep their currencies stable.

>> No.17642013

>>17641981
well what does this mean for the average citizen that is holding onto physical PM's?

>> No.17642017

>>17641235
>>17641313
Oh yes, I bet every single bar was accounted for. These lucky fuckers had a nice payday, huh?

>> No.17642026

What do you guys think gold/silver will do tomorrow?

>> No.17642042
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>>17641949
The answer here fren >>17641981

We are about to experience the biggest transfert of wealth in human history. It's a quadrillion $ in derivatives who will suddently vanish, only thing who will remain after the dollar reset will be gold & silver owner. Gold for the BRICs markets, silver for the western markets. One ounce of silver will buy you a harem of 200 Kpop 18yo teens.
We will make it beyond our wildest dreams, this is it frens, it's coming.

>> No.17642047

>>17642026
it will do okay

>> No.17642067

>>17642026
It's going to continue to bounce between $14 and $18 for the next few months until there is a real happening.
>>17642042
We're never going back to a gold or silver standard. (((Bankers))) will never allow. They've been given the chance to make money from nothing and they'll never turn back.

>> No.17642076

>>17642026
Dow is indicating a 650 point drop. Corona fear is escalating, another comfy day for the gold chads. Silverkeks will get a few crumbs too.

>> No.17642084
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>>17642013
We either become silver billionaires even with a mini-stack, or the state decide to confiscate our silver for "national security reasons". So you better work on your sob story of that time when you went to fish alone in the middle of the atlantic and suddently all your coins fell out of your pockets.

>> No.17642094

>>17642042
Well all you said is pretty much old news. You represent the old school conspiracy theorists in the PM community. I read about most of that 10+ years ago. Anyways I believe that what you said is going to happen.

The thing is there are newer crazier theories on what the governments are planning to do with gold and silver. Most of them sound like crazy bullshit so I'll not mention them at all.

>> No.17642110

>>17642084
Where's your trip, fren?

>> No.17642175
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17642175

Just got my deliveries of gold and silver I had ordered. Been stacking more gold lately than silver.

>> No.17642189

>>17641981
Makes sence

>> No.17642192

>>17642175
can I have that?

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>>17642110
You think i'm Schiff? I'm not fren. I mean look at my english, i barely can write a sentence who make sense with my ESL level.

>>17642094
Comon fren, we need some hopium from time to time, because the current dystopian nightmare where fake digital money totally controlled worldwide by the rothschild central banks is fucking depressing. Deep down we all fear what anon >>17642067 said keep happening forever : a humanity of goyim enslaved forever by fake digital money printed or confiscated at will by our talmudic overlords.

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>>17642200

>> No.17642235

>>17642200
Nah I believe the future will be much better for PM's. I'm just saying that your information is old news. I'm not saying that I disagree.

>> No.17642250

>>17642235
I just don't think that we are going to experience a Silver standard.

But I believe that individuals that have lots of Gold and silver mill make big profits. Even if there is confiscation we will make a profit (compared with dollar peasants that will get absolutely nothing from the government and lose everything).

>> No.17642262

>>17642235
You were aware about the fake US bonds issued by the FED to scam the chinks during the nip invasion? You were aware of the black eagle trust and the golden lilly opex to recover WW2 loot to then use it for CIA black budget and to paralize the soviet union industries? You were aware about JPM silver being held in US military bases? Etc..? Well you may be very well informed then, but most frens here have no clues about all these happening.

>> No.17642263

>>17641625
>>17641638
Those were probably rudimentary bars made for long term storage purposes. If an actual transaction were to occur the Iraqi mint would probably refine them into something more presentable and send them off.

>>17641562
Get $1000 in gold and $1000 in silver. You won't be able to get a full ounce of gold but you could get several 5 gram bars or something for $1000 and a lot of silver for $1000. If you do it that way your stack would be off to a very healthy start, just look at the silver to gold ratio >>17634347 has as an example. Not a bad place to be.

>> No.17642264

>>17642200
Please continue, I screencap it all.

>> No.17642276

>>17642262
Well every theory differs a little on details (some of the things you said were new or different) but these ideas were generally circulating around the world even before the internet.

>> No.17642375

>>17642200
What are your thoughts on space mining?

>> No.17642571

>>17642264
t-that's it fren. All i can do is tell you about others stories about silver. For example when the venetian nobility, who were the OG yuropoor banksters, forced a silver standard during the 13th c. for international trading, when gold was the norm everywhere in europe. They only accepted silver (after buying all the mines of course) and forced a 1:1 gold/silver convertibility. Merchants all across europe and the mediteranean sea had no choice but to accept, and the venetian banksters, who will then be called the black nobility, accumulated insane amount of gold.
They then announced a papal bauble declaring the silver standard was over and the gold standard was reinstaured. :^)

>>17642375
Not really, to me it sound like a far far away space opera dream, but on the other hand i know a lot of the black budgets were used for the star wars projects and various others NASA/CIA space related black budgets (tho it could simply be a cover for more sinister operations).
But closer from us, they also ran a lot of mining operations to build underground tunnels and basis, there is a big web of interconnected bases under the US soil, and it costed a shitload of money. It wasn't for minerals extraction though.. It's not clear what is the endgame about this.

>> No.17642684

>>17642571
More silver stories please, I am already in my pj.

>> No.17642782

>>17642571
did you just image search "iraq gold" to get your info or are you actually pulling info from other sources that aren't easily found. by now it's clear there's tons of gold held by the elite families. it's a fact that the bank of england has vault of gold. and they are not nearly as powerful as actual banking families. last night i actually woke up in the middle of the night and started coming up with a story about fort knox.

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>>17642684
>>17642782
>>17642571

>> No.17642995

>>17642571
>It wasn't for minerals extraction though.. It's not clear what is the endgame about this.
Protection in case a major geophysical event happens and it's impossible to live above ground??

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>>17642782
others sources you have to dig a bit : for the Lybian gold it come from this whistleblower spilling the beans :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnHbyhCkybI&list=LLOvp-BN2_0e8Y_7ST1D2rUA&index=4&t=0s

>>17642684
I'm tired too fren, comfy under my quilt. But i advise you to listen to the link just above, it's very interedasting. Sleep well sweet frog.

>> No.17643258

>>17642084
what about euros that have been stacking silver?
what will happen to us?

>> No.17643276

>>17643134
Thanks, good night.

>> No.17643401

>>17643134
phanks
>>17643258
don't you get it? all fiat currencies are going to zero value, starting with the weakest ones first such as the Lebanese Lira which just puked this weekend because they defaulted on debt. Also look up the Turkish Lira dump and volatility. this means that eventually you can't buy anything with fiat currency as they are unbacked. USD and Euros are sort of backed by military and industrial strength, but that also becomes shaky since USA/EU has sort of failed to secure a solid win in the MidEast wars. what we've seen instead is just perpetual war ever since 2001. so what "adqiP64c" anon is saying is that when fiat currencies drop to zero value, they will issue a new currency backed by silver, giving JPMorgan even more power since they own a ton of silver. real value of 1 oz silver compared to supply of dollars is around $1000, if we take this all to be true. so simply owning 100 silver makes you better off than owning $1800 USD right now, or whatever is the equivalent in euros.

>> No.17643454

>>17643134
>>17643258
wars have always been about resources: land, gold, oil, control of people, etc.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/gy9d49/libyan-oil-gold-and-qaddafi-the-strange-email-sidney-blumenthal-sent-hillary-clinton-in-2011

>>17643258
what is the euro backed by? nothing. just like the usd. you use it as a tool to live. but the value of it keeps going down the more taxes they add to everything. taxes in france are insanely high, thus the protests. they keep printing more because they think that will solve things. but it doesn't. so they have to fight wars to take gold and eventually silver. south africa is a big supplier of gold/silver. if the blacks take over fully it will cause a huge spike in gold and silver prices. same goes for parts of australia where the abbos protest every time an abbo gets shot.

>> No.17643465

>>17643401
>but that also becomes shaky since USA/EU has sort of failed to secure a solid win in the MidEast wars. what we've seen instead is just perpetual war ever since 2001.
That's because the 'goal' of the war isn't to win it but to stay there and control/monitor the area. Duh.

>> No.17643480

>>17643401
> 1oz = 1000 dollars
That's too low.
I want more.
I want 75000 USD per ounce.

>> No.17643520

>>17643454
> wars have always been about resources: land, gold, oil, control of people, etc.
I know.
See >>17643465
>>17643454
> if the blacks take over fully it will cause a huge spike in gold and silver prices.
blacks control the administrative process, but it's the brits and the jews that control the finances of the country.
the poor dutch farmers are the scapegoats for the niggers to hate on whitey.

>> No.17643961

Someone please tell me how to archive this read for a phonefag

>> No.17644061

>>17643961
Bump pls

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>>17643480
t-that's a l-lot fren!

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>>17643961
>>17644061
I did a screencap, it may be easier for you to save on the phone.

>> No.17644191

I just want to finish my monster box of ASEs before the habbening. 300 to go. ;_;

>> No.17644203

>>17644184
I love you and I love how you knew I specifically wanted your posts

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>>17644203
love you too fren, save the following pics while you are at it, it's related, very spicy stuff coming from an ex glownigger postin on pol.

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>>17644203

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>>17644203
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>>17644203
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>> No.17644374

Anyone one know any sites that don't charge you more for using credit card?

>> No.17644730

>>17644262
You know the kicker is how we're purposefully not educated about the Federal Reserve in high school. The average American still thinks the Federal Reserve is a government institution

>> No.17644980

>>17640888
look at those 8's.
>be me
>browse this thread
>highlight right click search "black eagle trust" in google
>moments later hear knock on door
>v&
>they take my PMs
>driven to black site
>tortured for hours

>> No.17645064

>>17643134
are you the same anon from this 2019 thread:
>>/biz/thread/12577691?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=b2b3842afa4a1d8a1c90556f8e2c47a099487025-1583705938-0-AWBMXA_vqU4wFt1YArIWDcckw8Ybs6_v5AeezWz_B85h5vgRJ8aIYdomgMQJTkOirzfRQI0eJEhEdJK_-_qJQnKkt7q2ZYCw0W2npa_vvZHoXb9GQLXY6moUHqEwrBZbGQDBGCLXxMWdAoWPw57umCXL0MWSYJooPc7saZNbeeRAa2oRq0-UXgrohsum4c4Owc38AMvhSS1LjuJN8bIbWi-dneQc08wTdP8_3f7WGCfIB8L0JBCtfFCMxNIDFE_6n-4NUvlhfplMWaLjUs9kU7h2llBOJNO39U24XhFk0nfM#p12583627

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>Gold touching $1700
Hold on to your butts PM chads

>> No.17645389

>>17644730
>>17644203
https://www.international-due-diligence.org/usa-1934-series-bonds/

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>>17645064
indeed fren, what key word did you use to dig this up? East indian company?

>> No.17645738

>>17625624

AG and AU are spiking like crazy right now on oil price fear, but i think you are right, the comex are going to smash it down so bad its going to break the paper / physical price and the disconnect becomes real.

It might be 12 or 13 on paper but you cant take delivery and no dealer will sell for anything like that, it will have a 4 or 5 dollar premium on it. I think that will be the absolute baseline low for our lifetimes.

>> No.17645750

>>17645538
reverse img search one of those chest photos.

>> No.17645774

> market opens
> everything dumps
> gold pumps
> bullion dealers disconnect the servers or just refuse to buy/sell at the moment
Yeah I'm thinking we're about to have a market crash.

>> No.17645791

>>17645738
spot gold is pretty meaningless at this point given the high premiums on everything. even a 2.5 gram pamp, which i used to own a few of are now either sold out, or at such a high premium you're better off getting 1/10th oz or one full oz.

soon even 1/10 oz gold will be sold out.

>> No.17645811

>>17645738
they are keeping it at and slight-under $1700:
http://www.livecharts.co.uk/MarketCharts/gold.php

>> No.17645832

>>17627561
Kek

>> No.17646560

New thread time.

>> No.17646925

my dealer's app or whatever just sharted its pants and shows my portfolio profit at -99.46%
what is going on?

>> No.17646945

>profit
value*

>> No.17647061

>>17646925
Silver is mooning.

>> No.17647114

>>17645774
>bullion dealers disconnect the servers or just refuse to buy/sell at the moment
where?

>> No.17647192

need to start a new thread

>> No.17647320

>>17645774
my dealer still sells, you mean to say that if i order another 20 oz right now then they won't not ship it?

>> No.17647969

>>17644320
>>17644332
>>17645389
They’re fake but real as in they were created by the OSS (old CIA) to trick Chang Kai Shek into giving the US all of China’s gold before the Japanese and later communist commandeered their it. Some of the boxes were left into China, most are/were in Taiwan and in the Philippines. China later found them and wanted to redeem the fake notes or settle it out of court and they won. The US had to fork over all the gold they tricked China into getting and it was all stored under WTC. Lucky Larry Silverstein got them all out before 9/11 which was a rouse to ultimately make the gold disappear into a now unknown location.

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>Silver plummeting
Alright guys silver is doing that shit again

>> No.17648070

>>17648020
Silver is 60% for industrial purposes.

You deserve it to plummet if you don't know this.

>> No.17648133

>>17648070
I know. I'm just saying

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After I saw the oil price crash I just ordered two 1/10 oz gold coins for $213 each after taxes. Did I do good?

>> No.17648253

>>17648189
No it’s going to dump lol retard

>> No.17648255

>500+ grams gold
>500+ oz silver
Will I make it ?

>> No.17648320

should I just buy random gold coins or is it worth trying to find ones that people want, trying to buy toinight

>> No.17648341

>>17648253
why, i don't believe you, you are lying, I know it, you lie, why do you lie

>> No.17648464

>>17648255
you will be a lord in your county.

>> No.17648741

Is buying from boomer coin stores ever worth it? What's the usual markup compared to ordering online? I can't guarantee my mail is safe.

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>>17627221
>buying any silver of any design for that much over spot
Not gonna make it

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In my country silver is taxed at 23% VAT. Is buying silver profitable in these conditions? I have an ounce of gold right now

>> No.17648896

>>17629425
Coins don't come in wrappers, generally speaking, unles you're talking about the American Gold Buffalo coins, which come in blister packs on a sheet. Most gold coins come in plastic tubes. Taking bullion gold coins out of the tubes or the blister packs is not going to affect its sale value.

It's different with bars because bars are much easier to counterfeit. The well-known bars are sealed to assay cards. Removing the bars from those packages will probably cost you a few percent as the buyer will likely have to assay the bars.

>> No.17649095

>>17648741
>>17648741
>I can't guarantee my mail is safe
You can ask the company you're ordering from to have it held at the post office closest to you.

>> No.17649145 [DELETED] 

>>17648815
At that rate it would literally be cheaper to open up a box for yourself in a US state with no sales tax and hire a guy to forward you packages once a month.

>> No.17649317

>>17633569
>sold 2 coins for 150$ to him
*facepalm*

If the two coins you sold were gold coins, that's one of the reasons why you're busting your hump working a shitty job at Wal-Mart.

Never, ever walk into a buy or a sell without knowing the approximate price of the items. In the case of your coins, it would be very easy to scan the Internet to figure out what they are. Take a good photo of them and try a reverse image scan. If that doesn't work, try posting on a message board dedicated to coin collecting. No matter what, do not be in a rush to buy or sell.

Even if it takes you one or two months to figure out precisely what those coins are and get an approximate price, the market price for the coins is not going to move that quickly.

>> No.17649348

>>17634954
It could be worse. The US Mint could have put a nigger or spic on the coin as they did with the new liberty gold coins.

>> No.17649380

>>17637006
I kind of ripped on the guy who inherited his coins for selling without knowing what they're worth but I'm even angrier and what I suspect is a highly unethical coin shop owner who has taken extreme advantage of a person.

>> No.17649691

>>17644203
If you want to know more about the purported gold hoard from the Philippines, read "Yamashita's Gold." I find it hard to believe in many places but, if the book is correct, there is still a shit load of hidden gold in the Philippines.

>> No.17649963

>>17644184
This reads like the biggest load bullshit I've ever seen—total delusion, and yet somehow still somewhat plausible. Here's hoping.

>> No.17650399

>>17648896
Depends the retailer. Apmex wraps their coins

>> No.17650620

>>17648815
In my country pure silver and gold are taxed at 0%.

>> No.17650646

https://youtu.be/WaPbmqbxkcU

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Sup Bros, I am almost at 100 oz silver, looking to sliiiide into second base Platinum fractionals and then weasel my way into a triple play AU lockdown and wait for signals. 90 days, iron fists, maybe open a trading account, God knows! The good knews is, physical feels a lot better then magic internet coins, and even the government is getting a discount from contracts with (((university grads who tried to sell us tesla and we got steve jobs.

>> No.17651304

I wonder what's going to happen when markets in NY open. It seems like we do this dance every Sunday where the prices of Gold and silver go rocketing up then about 10pm they drop like a rock.