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>> No.17647136

>>17647123
What does it mean?

>> No.17647150

>>17647123
Ruh roh

>dont even know what this means

Can someone explain

>> No.17647156

>>17647123
It's over. Not even joking.
The check has been called.

>> No.17647172 [DELETED] 

>>17647136
It means (((they))) hate the orange man so bad they are willing to rekt all of our lives to get him out of office.

>> No.17647193

>>17647172
take this dumb shit to /pol/

>> No.17647195

>>17647123
Short explanation for Eurofag?

>> No.17647214

>>17647195
You'd better not have any debt

>> No.17647220 [DELETED] 

>>17647193
Tell me it's not the truth you cocksucking faggot

>> No.17647222

>>17647195
eurofag here as well
Need also help

>> No.17647235

>>17647214
only 3k that is due in a year
w-will i be ok

>> No.17647236

>>17647123
Wonder how boomer pensions are going to fare in this lololol

>> No.17647243

>>17647195
10 year treasury bond is one of the biggest signals of investor confidence.

It's at its lowest level in history.

Thats about as simple as I can make it

>> No.17647255

>>17647136
Basically, we are all fucked

>> No.17647272

>>17647243
>It's at its lowest level in history.
by a long shot

>> No.17647326

>>17647272
I can't believe it happened this fast though. This is fucking wild.

>> No.17647327

>>17647236
Aren't they making money if they have treasuries though? Someone explain. All these smart guys are long treasuries what are they doing?

>> No.17647353

Can we finally start slashing subsidies and welfare, or will they just keep on dumping billions on the underclass. I know money is what keeps them from burning down deep blue urban cores (their own neighborhoods) but bullets can do that too.

>> No.17647357

the yellows really fucked us

>> No.17647406

>>17647214
What? Mortgage payments decrease. Real estate goes up

>> No.17647416

>>17647136
it means investors, mostly institutions, are scared as fuck that equities are going to crash much, much farther, and are rushing to "safe" havens like treasuries. in other words, "smart money" is afraid we're about to go way fucking lower, so much lower they're willing to drive the 10Y to (way below) historical lows

except 20-30% to disappear from the DOW over next 1-2 weeks, minimum

>> No.17647421

>>17647327
my TLT contracts are going to be worth a fuckton tomorrow.
i try to explain to people there's way more money in trading options and futures but no one listens. now they can watch their cryptos get fucked while i cash out heavy.

>> No.17647424 [DELETED] 

>>17647357
OPEC+ was dissolved today, with Saudi Arabia and Russia basically declaring economic war on each other.

Before, under OPEC+ Russia and SA agreed to limit production to maintain a certain price threshold. Today that went right out the window, with both Russia and SA vowing to ramp oil production up to max, and SA is already started a fire sale on its current oil stock.

This is huge huge huge, basically and OPEC civil war, the Saudis and the Russians think that they can use the Coronavirus to destroy their competition and monopolize the market

>> No.17647432

>>17647406
>Real estate goes up
lolno, it's been in a bubble for two years now

>> No.17647451

just bought a house, how does this effect me?

>> No.17647452

This isn't just a fake trade war with China like earlier in the year, there are some serious credit risks here in the oil sector.

We're about to see a crisis boys.

>> No.17647463

>>17647424
#TheHappening is so many happenings at once

>> No.17647466

>>17647451
>7451▶
>just bought a house, how does this effect me?
Depending on what you mortgage rate is I would try to re-finance ASAP

>> No.17647472

>>17647451
Depends on where you bought and how much cash you have on hand. Even if it plunges in value, it will come back (assuming you don't live in the ghetto) though.

>> No.17647475

>>17647172
>kikes want to destroy the kike lover who donates billions to israel and declared Jerusalem the capital
K

>> No.17647485

>>17647466
Buying at the top of 2007x2

What happened to them?

>> No.17647486

>>17647220
It's not the truth?

>> No.17647499

>>17647416
So isn't the real big brain money in shorting fucking everything?

>> No.17647506

>>17647451
Hahahhahaha

>> No.17647511

>>17647451
It means you can refinance for a lower rate

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17647513

>>17647123

>> No.17647538

>>17647472
its in a nice ass neighborhood.
>>17647466
what would i tell my mortgage company right now?
please any advice is appreciated this is my life savings, ive been waiting 20 years to get a house.

>> No.17647564

>>17647421
I have options on dxy going up. It's down half a percent right now. But won't it go up in a few weeks?

>> No.17647592

>>17647451
It means you better like your house to live in because it's not an investment

>> No.17647593

>>17647172
This. Its so obvious. These kikes need to be gutted

>> No.17647611

>>17647451
expect to lose your job. we'll see enormous layoffs later this year. this really is the big one. hope you can still service that debt using savings alone, because otherwise you're going to be foreclosed on or forced to sell at a loss next year.

>> No.17647614

>>17647511
so i can call my mortgage company tomorrow and ask for a better rate?

>> No.17647617

>>17647123
Why are you spergs freaking out over a 10y

>> No.17647625

>>17647353
>entering deflationary spiral
>great time to cut back on spending bro

>> No.17647627
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17647627

Seems to just follow the trend ? Am I missing something

>> No.17647633

>>17647611
i dont have a job, i already made it

>> No.17647658

>>17647627
This goes back to 1980 btw.
US10Y on TradingView

>> No.17647659

>>17647627
it means we haven't really had true growth since the 1980s and everything in between was just a lot mental masturbation

>> No.17647788

>>17647592
i just want a house i wasnt looking for an investment really

>> No.17647832

>>17647788
Then your golden

>> No.17647848

>>17647123
Kek
I’m all in crypto am I fucked

>> No.17647856

It is a good time for deplete a credit card now buying supplies and/or tools and guns?

>> No.17647889
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17647889

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR MY LINKIES?!?!?

>> No.17647941

>>17647832
thank you anon fren

>> No.17648017

>>17647659
not really. it just means the 1980s government sold us out. If you offer someone 15% returns annually, it adds up fast. Someone has to pay the bill.

>> No.17648032

>>17647172
schizo, the entire planet running screaming into US bonds in terror is absolute zero to do with your smelly old boomer friend.

>> No.17648038

Guess we know why all of the ceo's have been resigning...

>> No.17648041

>>17647136
Treasury yields will be lmao negative in two months.

>> No.17648057

>>17647466
>>17647538
unless your close to the end of your term your going to take a hit.
I personally would wait, this is only going to get worse before it gets better.

>> No.17648063

>>17647848
Maybe. Crypto had been propped up by cheap interest rates and lots of investors taking cheap loans against hard assets such as real estate to buy speculative assets (crypto). U.S. Treasury Notes surging cuts effective interest rate on government debt, and that usually has effect of lowering everybody else's interest too as investment grade corporate bonds also surge and cut interest rate for everyone. But, the Treasury Notes surged because investors got spooked and sold risky assets and went to park their money in the safest asset there is (U.S. government debt). So, it's all matter of can lower borrowing cost entice investors back to risky assets, and it depends on how far the effective interest rate falls for all borrowers (spread between govt debt and corporate debt interest rates becoming smaller).

>> No.17648074

>>17647848
>I’m all in crypto am I fucked
No, I wouldn´t say so.
The anon on /pol/ who predicted everything what happened so far already at the end of January, said that Crypto is okay.
He didn´t say it´s great. But he adviced to pull out of the stock market completly and to buy gold or even Bitcoin.
So I guess we are somewhat fine.
I am All in LINK and obviously will never sell

>> No.17648082

>>17647889
it means you bought the top, better luck next shit coin stinker

>> No.17648094

>>17647172
You’re an NPC.

>> No.17648110

>>17648038
ugh, it all makes sense

>> No.17648128

>>17648041
Or in a week
Who fucking knows

>> No.17648158

Source for that?
>>17647123

>> No.17648162

>>17647451
Same. Did I just buy 20k dollar bitcoin .

Treasure rates may or may not affect real estate. Truth is treasure notes just means government is returning little on loans ultimately because they don’t need to lock money out of supply they want to increase liquidity, so they print more. The issue is debt actually removes money from supply, especially when it’s defaulted on , so they are forced to print. Becomes a big issue when everyone starts to default and they have to print A Metric TON to gap fill the missing remainder.

Corona is a black swan.

Most modern economic systems don’t take these events very well

You can thank Alan Greenspan for this shit literally perpetuates the cycle. Wonder how long it can go on for.

>> No.17648223

>>17647538
I mean things aren't going to get better that soon so take a breath and just relax for a second. If you literally just closed you probably already have a low rate. Refinancing your mortgage is a good thing not a bad thing. Mortgage rates are tied to treasury bonds. The lower they go the lower mortgage rates go. Without knowing your current rate it's impossible to tell you what to do or when to do it. Not that you should be taking 4chan advice anyway

>> No.17648233

>>17647451
Hahahahaha oh my god

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guys...

>> No.17648250

>>17648162
If you JUST bought a house you shouldn't be worried about this anyway. I mean obviously if you lose your job it will suck but your house value is something you can't look at in the short term.

>> No.17648260

>>17648240
It’s happening

>> No.17648269

>>17648240
old news and nothing to do with treasury bonds

>> No.17648281
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17648281

>>17647123
How much gold do I need to survive this?

>> No.17648300

>>17647416
CORONAVIRUS IS BLACK DEATH 2.0 airborne Aids Chinese bio weapon

>> No.17648339

>>17647486
Go back to your chainlink threads you fucking fagget

>> No.17648370

>>17648223
we are going to close around mid april. they had to fix the septic system so we have to wait longer then usual to close on it. the mortage rate. I chose the "lock in" option for rate in at 3.6% before all this shit happened. does that mean people getting a mortgage now will face 5% rates and shit?

>> No.17648402

>>17647625
>entering deflationary spiral

Is this really a thing though? People still need housing, food, clothing, electricity, heating, air-conditioning, renovations, entertainment, the list goes on. What difference does it make if they defer the purchase of things they don't really need? If anything, it reduces resource waste.

I wouldn't mind a pile of cash appreciating in value in the rock-solid safety of a (Canadian) bank account (which, unlike in many other places, won't fail).

>> No.17648408

>>17648370
No man rates are going to be lower, 3.6 is a great rate though. If treasure bonds drop so do mortgage rates.

>> No.17648416

>>17648032
>>17648032
>>17648032

>> No.17648455

>>17648408
awesome, im confused though...why would rates going lower be better? or am i misunderstanding your post?

>> No.17648472

>>17647451

Rest in peace

>> No.17648497

>>17647451
I was looking at buying a house last month, decided to wait until next year. Looks like I'm accidentally a genius, based?

>> No.17648527

>>17648497
the point is i didnt buy my house as an investment, if i did i would be fucked. but yeah if shit keeps going downhill it will turn into a buyers market.

>> No.17648541

>>17648455
The rate is how much interest you're paying the bank on your loan. Lower interest = lower payment. I just refinanced this week to a rate of 2.875 btw. You can probably do the same and lower your payment significantly. Talk to your bank.

>> No.17648552

>>17648497
genius confirmed. You might even want to wait one more year to really get a good discount, once the crisis hits really hard

>> No.17648589

>>17648541
ok i will do that. im think though if i chose the "lock in" option that i cant change it? but we will see. thanks for the help.

>> No.17648599

>>17647123
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.17648602

>>17647220
have sex

>> No.17648620

>>17648455
I think youre confusing mortgage rates and bond rates. Mortgage rates = how much interest you pay on your loan. The 10-year note affects 15-year conventional loans while the 30-year bond affects 30-year loans. When Treasury rates rise, so do rates on these mortgages. When treasury rates drop so do mortgage rates

>> No.17648624 [DELETED] 

>>17648602
I just did. Your mom said get your own fucking tendies

>> No.17648638

I am going to lose my job, aren't I?

>> No.17648642

>>17648620
thanks for clearing it up

>> No.17648644

>>17648455
Dude that house will be 20% cheaper s by the time you close PULL THE FUCK OUT. RE is fucking TANKING and they'll try to cut rates to prop it up, which won't work.

>> No.17648665

Nikkei down over 4 percent in less than an hour.

>> No.17648679

>>17648644
before this i was looking for a house for two years. i need the house for my mental health and am willing to lose 20% for my sanity. im going to live in it for at least 15-20 years so im not worried. i bought a house not an investment. read my post i already made it, im not that worried about money.

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17648783

>Someone smart pls reply

How decoupled is the stock market from the real economy on a scale from 1(low)-10(high), particularly jobs.

My business relies heavily on discretionary consumer spending. Time to start winding down?

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17648853

Can we just skip the election?

I can't wait another year for Big Joe to fix this fucking shit NOW!

>> No.17648958

>>17648783
Bump

>> No.17648995

>>17648783
There will likely be a lag between when wall st tanks and when it starts hitting main street. You'll experience a lag to give you time. People might not start cutting immediately, but if companies start laying people off that's a good sign people won't be buying bull crap

>> No.17649033

>>17648679
I bought a house last year for a ducking fortune but I’m gonna live in it with my cute feet goth waifu and have some kids so I guess I don’t care

>> No.17649045

>>17648853
Corona isn't Corn Pop and won't respond to being threatened with a chain.

>> No.17649067

>>17647172
>thinking economics has anything to do with the media political circus
(((they))) (lol) have gotten to you pretty hard

>> No.17649073

>>17647466
I'm 2 years into a 30 yr mortgage. I have a fixed APR at 4% and rates just dropped to 2.875. Should I refinance?

>> No.17649083
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17649083

>>17648995
Most millennial "investors" and "traders" have never received a proper beating by the markets. They always bought the dip on financial assets, worked their corporate meme jobs and thought they were so smart with money.

They will now spend a lot less. Since just following simple baby rules on investing doesn't make money grow like it did the last decade.
Hope lots of them bought in last week.

>> No.17649108

>>17647424
>>17647463
2020's been wild so far and its just getting started.

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>>17649083
>Most millennial "investors" and "traders" have never received a proper beating by the markets.
/Biz/ crypto investors excluded.
We know how it feels when shit is dumped and drops 20% per hour.

Imagine the normies reactions when their super smart etfs and robo advisors start to go belly up.

>> No.17649191

>>17648995
Makes sense. Thanks bro.

>> No.17649196

>>17649073
>I have a fixed APR at 4% and rates just dropped to 2.875. Should I refinance
If you plan on staying there a long time why wouldn't it make sense to get the lowest rate possible? Talk to you lender.

>> No.17649198

Personally this is more terrifying than the virus.

>> No.17649267

>>17647499
Big brain money is making bank on every swing, which was predicted by their algos years ago.

>> No.17649281

>>17649196
I plan on staying here the 30 years or until the mortgage is paid off so I have a meeting scheduled. The only thing I don't like are the closing costs. $4,000 or there abouts.

>> No.17649286

>>17648995
There will be no lag this time. The effects on spending will be felt immediate due to corona virus wreaking havoc.

>> No.17649351

>>17649033

ditto, my friend

>> No.17649389
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Consider the facts:
>largest weekly stock market drop since 1929
>first time treasury yields are under 1%
>biggest single day oil price drop since gulf war
>fastest spreading virus since SARs, china hardest hit
>gold hitting 1700 usd after previous high of 1900 usd
>real estate bubble propped up entirely by rich chinese

It's Habbeening.

>> No.17649397

>>17649167
> super smart etfs and robo advisors start to go belly up
Michael Burry warned of the passive investing bubble contributing to and exacerbating a recession/crash similar to the behaviour of CDO's in the GFC.

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>>17649389
Crash eet.

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>>17649033
cant wait to be comfy on the sofa fren

>> No.17649418

>>17649083
>Most millennial "investors" and "traders" have never received a proper beating by the markets
LMAO. I can't believe bloomberg doing a frontpage article on WSB was literally the sell signal. It's all too perfect.

>> No.17649447

Remember, only one man can save us.
Vote Trump. This is a part of his plan to weaken the Jews where it hurts them, and only he can fix it when they lost everything.
#MAGA

>> No.17649452

>>17647243
>>17647326
So people are dumping treasury bonds?

>> No.17649482

>>17649452
read the whole thread retard. they don't

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>>17649415
Behold, the power of autism...

>> No.17649494

So what is the best play now? Hoard cash?

>> No.17649511

which countries have NIRP right now? i forget.

>> No.17649513

>>17649281
Are you a pajeet? Mortgage guy here and only pajeets bitch about closing costs. You either pay up front like a man or have it rolled into the loan and thus get a higher rate.

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>>17649494
Cash is king

>> No.17649532

>>17647856
>guns

Yeah, but it's probably too late for that now.

>> No.17649537

>>17649494
For now? I would say so. Definetly do not rush into the markets. It might not be a bad idea to put some money in Crypto and into Gold.
And if you are a burger, then consider exchanging your money for Euros.
Because you will unironically get fucked

>> No.17649546

>>17649447
Fuck you fucking stupid fucking /pol/ tard jackass. NO ONE IS CUMMING TO SAVE U FAGGOT
TRUMP IS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR HE COULD LESS THAN 2 SHITS ABOUT YOU RURAL RETARDS

>> No.17649560

>>17649529
>>17649537
How about money market funds?

>> No.17649561

>>17649452
know they're dumping cash into bonds, this drives down interest rates since the early bird gets the word and laggards get piss

>> No.17649562

blah blah. once the fear subsides the 10yr will tick back up. Investors move money in and out easily

>> No.17649571

>>17648638
We all are.

>> No.17649577

>>17649494
deutsche bank puts would have been a good play. check the chart. maybe still good if goes completely bankrupt like lehman.

>> No.17649594

>>17647220
it's not the truth you cocksucking faggot.

happy?

>> No.17649601

the only thing that can stop the freefall is a cure.

Good luck anons

>> No.17649643

>>17649494
>So what is the best play now?

Stock up on ammo.

>> No.17649646

>>17647627
The economy was built to crash

>> No.17649670

>>17649601
propaply not even a cure can really stop it at this point. apart from that: There won't be one anytime soon

>> No.17649708

>>17649601
cure for something that takes months to spread, and only kills 3% of elderly? this is not just about the virus. shit has been unbalanced for a long time. look at the oil price drop today. you think that happened because of the virus? something is brewing behind the scenes. look at the refugee crisis heating up again.

>> No.17649722

>>17648240
$1.00/gal gas incoming.

Why is this a bad thing again?

>> No.17649784

Stupid question time. Say you have a mortgage with a fixed rate. Why wouldn't you be rooting for economic crash and hyper inflation? Be nice to pay off all existing debt with the $1 gazillion Zimbabwe tier dollarydoos I earn before lunch break.

>> No.17649817

>>17649722
it's not bad. but it's not going to be $1/gal. it'll be around $2.50-$2.90 after taxes. lower if you live in areas with little to no tax. our gas price here in SoCal has only gone down about $0.50 and you have to drive to costco to get that deal, or risk getting shitty gas from ARCO. the big brand names like chevron, 76, are still selling gas at $3.50-$3.70.

check again tomorrow and tuesday. prices don't really move right away even if oil price dumps 30%. they still upcharge us to profit from the cost of refining oil into gasoline.

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>>17649722
because the jews hate it when the goyim can afford things. Here's how it's going to play out
>massive deflation
>currency velocity will fall off a cliff
>goyim wait anxiously to buy cheaper items
>the jews hate this simple goyim tactic
>deploy the goy chopper
>cut to news cam of literal helicopter dropping currency
>this barely works
>America is about to default on debt to its (((creditors)))
>Jewfreakoutidsannudahshoah.jpeg
>runprinters.exe
>HUNDREDS OF TRILLIONS OF GOYIM BUX ARE PRINTED
>USD is hyper inflated into oblivion
>no more (((welfare)))
>nogs chimp out and cities burn
>Rome2.0

>> No.17649839

>>17649418
>>Most millennial "investors" and "traders" have never received a proper beating by the markets
>LMAO. I can't believe bloomberg doing a frontpage article on WSB was literally the sell signal. It's all too perfect.
It's incredible, the moment I saw the reddit cover I knew it was going to crash, meanwhile biz's meme is the only green chart in the world right now

>> No.17649845

>>17649784
you are assuming you keep your job and earn about the same. my dad got utterly btfo during the 2009 crisis. laid off. never really recovered full-time job.

>> No.17649849

>>17649784
>Why wouldn't you be rooting for economic crash and hyper inflation?
You might lose your job and house

>> No.17649850

>>17649397
No kidding, 'thing go up forever' was predicated mostly on the belief that people would just keep chucking their 5% company matched pay every salary at the whole stock market via some robo index or etf. This only works so long as thing actually keeps going up forever, ie, it's a self-fulfilling maximum leverage ponzi.

I wonder if humans will literally ever come to terms with the fact that infinite 15% annual roi is actually, physically, logistically unsustainable. I think as a species we'd honestly prefer to suffer these boom/busts over and over again rather than face the music and accept that economies cannot grow parabolically forever. We'd rather have the highs and lows than engineer a steady state no/low-growth economy.

>> No.17649871

>>17649784
>before lunch break
Because lunch break will last forever

>> No.17649905

>>17647406
OK how does it go up in value when no one can buy it and the owners being in debt

>> No.17649930

>>17649850
you can only have steady growth with sound currency, which incentivizes people to save and spend sensibly. with cheap fiat there's more wasteful spending, which means more products/solutions get made to meet that demand. for example look at that exercise bike, plantano or whatever it's called, or look at the meatless vegan shit that priced at a billion valuation. people only buy shit like that when there's plenty of fiat going around. look how much hot girls make just from instagram, twitch and patreon. that only happens during bubbles.

>> No.17650051

>>17647243
>>17647156
>>17647123
But now would be a good time to refinance mortgages.....right? Rentals in particular.

>> No.17650071

>>17649840
lol here

>> No.17650256

>>17647123
Should I buy 30 year T-Bills if im 30 years old?

>> No.17650283

>>17649513
>You will pay closing costs up front and like it,.
Eat my ass. I'll pay them but I don't have to like it.

>> No.17650442 [DELETED] 
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Literally the only corona-proof asset on the planet.

Big happenings coming in the next months, smartcon, probable steaking, etc.

It's resisted so many dips that it's a self-fulfilling prophecy by now. It won't go down because nobody will let it go down.

Why the fuck do you not have at least 90% of your net worth parked in LINK yet?

>> No.17650503

>>17650051
Yes. But there are some closing costs involved. Better wait a few weeks or months so the Fed can really kick into gear.

>> No.17650518

Good god what a clusterfuck

>> No.17650541

>>17647848
BTC was designed in response to this sort of thing. Afaik it soared in Iran, Turkey, Argentina, Venezuela, and Greece on separate occasions as each of those countries slid into recession.
It's proved itself capable as an emergency store of value on smaller scales a few times. If the heavyweights truly are about to go through the ringer and it serves people exactly the way it did in all those countries listed above, this could be great for Bitcoin and crypto in general.
We'll see.
There could very well be a flash crash along with everything else before it picks up again. That's what happened to PMs before they mooned in 2008.

>> No.17650562
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Uhh... I don't get it. If debt is cheap then the government is free to spend a fuckton of money to keep the economy going, right?

>> No.17650597

>>17649083
>Most millennial "investors" and "traders" have never received a proper beating by the markets. They always bought the dip on financial assets, worked their corporate meme jobs and thought they were so smart with money.
Mr. Boomer, I have seen my portfolio drop 25% in less than a day on multiple occasions. I have also never once worked a corporate job.
>t. superior millennial investor 100% in link

>> No.17650675

>>17648074
Link to post or name of anon?

>> No.17650720

>>17650541
>Afaik it soared in Iran, Turkey, Argentina, Venezuela, and Greece on separate occasions as each of those countries slid into recession
it was a local thing. the effects of a global recession will be different

>> No.17650792

I have 30 rolls of toilet paper. feels comfy.

>> No.17650841

>>17650675
Didn't safe anything. Just post in one of the /corona general/ threads on pol and ask for the specifics anon post. Maybe someone will show you the screenshot or link to post.
I didn´t safe it.
But for reference it was made on the 30th of January. And he predicted everything

>> No.17650874

>>17650720
It certainly will be different, but even a relatively small transfer of wealth from traditional markets to crypto could be huge. It wouldn't take much of an injection to give off the illusion of absurd growth. That in itself could perpetuate it as a hot market anomaly in a sea of red.

>> No.17650906

>>17649722
It was $1.25 in NJ 3 years ago or so.

>> No.17650908

10yr is back in the 5s.

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>>17647451
HOW THE FUCK DO PEOPLE LIKE YOU EVEN EXIST

>> No.17651027

>>17650874
I think that much more people will exit crypto than enter it. I might be wrong here but I think that people entering it in the economies you mentioned above was because of the unavailability of the dollar

>> No.17651029

>>17649708
Kills 8-30% of elderly depending on how you define that word. Kills 3% of everyone.

>> No.17651129

>>17647451
rip

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>>17647424
Russia is dumb af under Putin I wager he's dug his political grave, ofc they elect the undead for life over there

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>>17649447

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>>17650562

>> No.17651501
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>all this shit because some chinese wanted to eat some bat soup

>> No.17651636

>>17651027
I suppose that is involved in some way for all of them. Most situations where Bitcoin had local surges involved currency crashes (Turkish Lira, Venezuelan Bolivar, Argentinian Peso). Greece's was more concerning a direct lack of access to spending money and Iran is sanctioned to all fuck.
From one angle, it is seen as a store of value. From another perfectly contradicting one, a high risk investment. If all this gets bad enough, it should at least prove it to be one or the other for good. I think the former will win out over the latter, especially if BTC does continue to grow and its volatility does indeed drop over time.

>> No.17651658

>>17651501
thats what the jews want us to think.

jews really made this shit in a lab

>> No.17651670

I've been wanting to buy a car (my car is quite old but I'll probably hang onto it).

Think I can get a good deal?

>> No.17651685

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aes4Fny7-88

>> No.17651689
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The time is coming.

>> No.17651751

>>17648783
Depends if you provide a flexible or inflexible good/service.

If it's flexible, my condolences. If it's inflexible, expect to see people clamoring to get into it driving down wages a bit.

>> No.17651752

>>17649452
No. People are buying government bonds instead because they think the market is screwed.

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Just sold 2% of my stack, attempting to swing.

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>>17647123
Oh man, the market seems perfectly timed to fuck me over and I know I'm not alone. It hit its ATH's while I was in school getting my degrees, allowed me to take out loans for education, then shits the bed when I'm looking to find my career job.

You better fucking believe I'm fired up over this. If you fucking boomers are wondering why people are voting for Bernie, it's not necessarily because we believe everything he's shilling. It's because we're fucking furious. I'm ready to go to fucking war over this; not with any foreign nation, but with the fucking people who are ACTUALLY HOLDING ME DOWN. I'm ready for another Civil War. I would sign up so quickly to go to war with Democratic or Republican establishment career politicians who have made millions off fucking over future generations. Sign me the fuck up.

>> No.17651797

>>17651772
>It's because we're fucking furious. I'm ready to go to fucking war over this; not with any foreign nation, but with the fucking people who are ACTUALLY HOLDING ME DOWN.
Honestly dude I've been ready to go knock some fucking boomer skulls for awhile.

>> No.17651807

>>17649930
>plantano or whatever it's called
KEK

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>>17651772
Ready to conscript in some militia that goes after wealthy attorneys and professors that preach Biden politics and how necessary it is to protect black people while at the same time denying youth from finding jobs or affordable healthcare. Shit will be so cash.

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>Saves The Economy

>> No.17651831

Just started working not too long ago, how do I save my money from losing its value? Is this a risk in the near future?

>> No.17651835

>>17651772
nobody voted for bernie

>> No.17651844

/Pol/lack here. So biz how much of a happening is this actually? Markets going to shit tmrw?

>> No.17651856

>>17651835
think about how many 19 year olds would murder you for a Bitcoin. Now think about what Bernie is offering to the youth.

You're fucked.

>> No.17651858

Buy the dip you mongs.

>> No.17651877

>>17651856
Lmao limp wristed fags ain’t gonna do shit

>> No.17651888

>>17651658
Out of curiosity, I checked to see if Israel was "miraculously" safe somehow but even they have 39 cases and counting atm.
U can't pulpil disease

>> No.17651910

https://www.bitchute.com/video/lSaKoijh6YDd/
the fed is using this to call in debt and shrink the supply of money. Crashing the stock market is always just a smoke screen. Maybe Trump was going to do something and they want him to lose the election. All the information can be found here

>> No.17651916

>>17651844
>So biz how much of a happening is this actually?
You remember 2008? Imagine that but like doubled. If you're not really involved with markets or don't plan on selling your house anytime soon, you'll be fine. However, I don't think this is going to be very good for you trump lovers.

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>>17651844
Meanwhile the blatant systemic corruption can reach as high a profile as the fucking Bidens and they'll rub that 50k/month in your face. Small potatoes, really. Our ancestors had solutions.

>> No.17651938

>>17651917
oops meant you
>>17651772

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>>17651820
WOAH BIG GUY WE'RE ALL ONE PEOPLE THE HUMAN PEOPLE SO COOL IT WITH THAT RACISM AND PLEDGE TO WORK HARDER SONNYJIM WE NEED OPEN BORDERS FOR CHEAPER WORKERS AND WE NEED EM NOW BY THE TIME I WAS YOUR AGE I HAD A WIFE AND A HOUSE YOU FUCKING LOSER GOD DAMN IT GET IT TOGETHER YOUNG FELLA BY GEORGE I DARE SAY WE NEED TO PAY FOR MORE BROWN PEOPLE AND THE EBT CARDS AND FIGHTER BOMBERS WE NEED MORE FIGHTER BOMBERS BUT NO SOCIALISM MEDICINE THAT SHITS COMMIE SON, FREE SPEECH AND THE RIGHT TO OWN GUNS? YOU'RE A FUCKING NAZI I FOUGHT LITTLE SHITS LIKE YOU ON THE BEACHES OF OMAHA NOW GET A FUCKING JOB YOU BUM, NEVERMIND PACO WILL DO IT FOR 1/2 THE PRICE, BYE BYE LOSER. HAVE FUN WITH THE STUDENT LOAN, I PAID FOR MINE WITH A BURGER FLIPPING JOB. FUCK YOU, GOT MINE! ISRAEL IS OUR GREATEST ALLY. *SIPS*

>> No.17651966

>>17651877
You're naive as fuck. Watch the movie "Come and See". You have no fucking clue what people are capable of when pushed. If you're the enemy, you'll find out what people are capable of.

Economy keeps going south + Youth getting punished for not benefiting off the prior economy in time... Old foagies (30+) are going to find themselves in a world of hurt.

>> No.17651977

>>17651877
>limp wristed fags
Reminder that the majority of the US military is under the age of 27.

>> No.17652004

Another thing too: It doesn't necessarily take a "Youth" leader to push a generation to act against another generation. All it takes is a leader who recognizes their plight and can organize.

>> No.17652106

>>17652004
not really related to your point but i dont see bernouts ever directing their anger in a useful direction.they have got half the pieces of the puzzle but they will NOT be able to understand that diversity and globalism are the enemy as much as unchained capitalism. bernie has them chanting to let in more brown people, to take away their gun rights and probably further curtail speech via hate speech garbage. really they correctly identify some of the symptoms (massive wealth inequality and inter-generational theft) but good luck getting a bernout to confront why mexicans undercutting the value of their labor is bad for them, or why certain demographics commit so much crime, the israeli dual citizenship senators etc. it's not gonna happen. bernie is the pied piper pressure valve.

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This is....not good. If that's what clients are hearing form the big banks then look out

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>>17652132

>> No.17652176

>>17652106
>NOT be able to understand that diversity and globalism are the enemy as much as unchained capitalism
First of all, they aren't as big of a problem, so your point is moot. And you don't need bernie to lead anyone. It starts at a local level. Imagine a few smooth talker ex-military 25 year olds going to a college and riling everyone up. It would honestly be a lot easier than you think.

>> No.17652294

>>17651910
Thanks just bought a gun

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>>17651966
>Old foagies
>30s

>> No.17652318

>>17652176
>First of all, they aren't as big of a problem
>delusional bernout takes the berniebait hook line and sinker
Communism isn't cool. It's proponents aren't smooth talking ex-military 25 year olds. They are awkward braindead retards like yourself who can't see the forest for the trees. If by some miracle you manage to raise enough mexicans and bernouts to pick a fight with anyone, all the non retarded young whites will be forced to join team boomer.

>> No.17652336

>>17651027
You clearly don’t realize how small the crypto market really is. BTC, LINK and ETH are all safe bets. Fucking gold is bigger market cap than crypto. Fags like you are just desperate to have anons lose their money but we are never fucking selling. Fag

>> No.17652356

Fuck off and stop panicking. Trump says everything is fine. Democrats are trying to crash market through fear. the economy is booming. Buy the dip faggots.

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POST HABBENING MUSIC NOW
https://youtu.be/prLAcKnlb9Q

>> No.17652376

>>17651772
LOL. what a fucking edgelord faggot

31 year old boomer here, and remember this quote. "old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill"

That being said, you have no skill because of public schooling, so you're double fucked.

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>>17652359
>>17652359
>>17652359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qlCC1GOwFw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qlCC1GOwFw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qlCC1GOwFw

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you crypto kiddies are hysterical

the virus will pass, the market will recover

>> No.17652468

>>17647123
here is the only question that matters. is my crypto going to moon or not?

>> No.17652532

>>17650541
you are forgetting the fact that jews, chinese and a bunch of arab royalty have heavy bags of btc and could fuck it up at any given second

>> No.17652550

>>17652318
I didn't say they weren't problems, I said they weren't as big of a problem. They are 100% issues that should be addressed. Diversity isn't the reason the fucking market is about to go through the biggest collapse in history. Unregulated capitalism propping up completely unsustainable ATHs is.

>> No.17652555

>>17652468
It'll go to the moon when the fed starts panic printing money.

>> No.17652573

>>17652318
By the way, you ever been in the military? It's not a bunch of republican loving redneck retards anymore. People have changed. The military is a complete socialist structure, and you'd be surprised as to how many of them like it that way.

>> No.17652577

>>17652356
shut up spook

>> No.17652596

>>17652550
If by unregulated capitalism you mean governments trying to manipulate the markets through central banks then I aggree.

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Buy OGN

>> No.17652627

>>17652573
And it's gonna collapse like every other socialist structure.

>> No.17652639

>>17649447
Your a fucking moron

>> No.17652651

>>17652627
>The US military is going to collapse
Holy fuck how retarded can you possibly be

>> No.17652695

>>17648162
>Corona is a black swan.
it's not a black swan. corona is not the cause of the bubble. this has been a long time coming and everything is so fragile that this is enough to bring it all down.

my cousin bought his home at the top of the 2008 bubble. he had to hold on to it for about 7 years before it came back up to the price he paid for it. hopefully you will have the same experience. if you job is secure it should be okay. if we are going into a japanese "lost decade" you are going to be a bit fucked-over, but i wish you the best. personally I expect the market to shoot back up over the next month in a fake recovery before it really comes down. it took the 2008 crash a whole year to roll out to the bottom and then five years to recover

>> No.17652714

>>17647123
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.17652740

>>17652651
The US can't keep up their current spending forever. The US military might not go away, but it's gonna have to downsize a lot.

>> No.17652756

>>17651943
Fck off schlomo...

>> No.17652763

>>17652740
That's a little different than collapsing. And too be 100% honest with you, the majority of a downsizing won't be from getting rid of people. It will be less spending on certain aspects, like not building a single Navy destroyer, or purchasing 10 less missiles than last year, or some other shit like that. The US military will literally never collapse, i honestly can't believe I even read that.

>> No.17652769

>>17652573
the military will split between the socialist faggot elite and their fluoride slaves and the rest. it's 1% vs 99%. the 1% have the worthless money and bureaucracy that will easily be confiscated.

we are going to shed you. sic semper tyrannis.

>> No.17652775

>>17648128
The government could try to push/punish smart money out of bonds using negative interest rates.

This seems like a globalist coup on the US.

>> No.17652777

>>17647123
Why do I get the feeling this is all a ploy to get the normies to turn against Orange Man in time for the election?

Boy are they in for a surprise when they learn the economy could be absolute shit and there 's still not a demo who could beat Trump, thats how wildly unpopular they are.

>> No.17652799

>>17649389
Is it time now to buy gold or what?

>> No.17652819

>all these people on a finance board who don't even know what treasurys are

>> No.17652829

is it a good time to buy property?

>> No.17652849

>>17652819
biz is a shitcoin board, we have no business talking about economics here on the regular

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I can't fucking wait for open tomorrow, I'm going to become newrich.

>> No.17652859

>>17652359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoP1ypHwSvQ

>> No.17652867

>>17647123
*sits comfy in DAI and Suterusu*

k.

>> No.17652883

>>17652769
My man if you think the 1% of american who are in the military couldn't steamroll the other 99%, i don't know what to tell you.

>> No.17652884

>>17647243
Bonds have always been kiked so I'm not surprised. Mike Maloney was right.

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>>17649418
I was thinking the same thing when I saw the cover
Hahahaha fuck reddit.

>> No.17652916

>>17652883
lol

>> No.17652946

>>17652916
You're faggy little AR-15 isn't going to help you win that one, that's forsure.

>> No.17652988

>>17652946
retarded left wing fluoride nigger failed to notice space force wont kick out "nazi" white men because they need the talent

>> No.17653029

>>17649529
cash will literally get outlawed within the year due to muh infection risk

>> No.17653031

>>17652829
it will be in a few months. Wait until the summer or fall.

>> No.17653040

>>17652550
they are one and the same. free flow of labor (globalism) is what the super rich want. unfortunately you bernouts are blinded to it and think its good to be nice to brown people. losers.

>> No.17653049

>>17652740
They don't need to keep up spending, that's the point of having a military. If at any point in time you can't pay your bills you can just go take someone else's stuff.

>> No.17653070

>>17652988
combat arms are still by far white good old cornfed rednecks who would love the chance to btfo commie globalist anti 2nd amendment losers like you.

>> No.17653080

>>17651888
the disease itself might even not be real
it could unironically just be one mass hypnosis event that doesnt even happen outside of the TV screen.
the only thing we know is like a dozen easy to fake videos from china and then everyone will be made to stay home indefinitely and everyone will interpret their seasonal flu as "that virus".

people are insanely dumb and gullible and the control grid is one homogenous system spanning over all nation states

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STOP SELLING OIL RIGHT NOW FUCKING SAUDIS!

>> No.17653115

>>17651844
it's like 9/11...times 1000

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>>17647123
I have 1600 bucks I can spend I'm 18. What do I do with it now, I was gonna buy stonks and crypto but I dont know if I should

>> No.17653131

>>17651772
You are not aware that Bernie would further indebt the nation to the people who have caused this predicament? lad, I am wewin

>> No.17653147

>>17650503
Not gonna happen retard

>> No.17653164

>>17647214
Why not?

>> No.17653169

>>17650503
Refi now while you still can for god sake.

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>Oil dropping hard
>Rouble flopping hard
>A chance i will lose my job soon
>My saving in USD might flop too
Is it time to AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?

>> No.17653262

>>17647451
You're not gonna make a profit off that thing for starters. That should be the least of your worries though

>> No.17653293

Sitting on gold and lots of cash what to do frens?

>> No.17653327

>>17653205
its time to rush b blyat

>> No.17653329

>>17653293
Leveraged bond ETNs

>> No.17653370

>>17652428
Cope

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>>17652946

That's why you easily beat illiterate Afghan peasants with 1970's era Soviet small arms tech, right? How much easier do you think it's going to be against American citizens (who make up the soldiers' family members, friends and neighbors btw, you idiot) when the infrastructure the military destroys during the war is the very one that economically supports the military?

In any case, your presumption that the vast majority of the military would make war on its own people is utterly brain dead. Please get help.

>> No.17654047

>>17649389
Also consider the CEO's of all of these companies stepped down within the last month:

-DISNEY
-MASTERCARD
-LBRANDS
-UBER EATS
-HULU
-MGM
-IBM
-LINKEDIN

Google CEO stepdown and look at the news tab

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>>17650675
nigga saved my 401k

>> No.17654394

>>17653029
Good point.

>> No.17654457

>>17654089
holy shit

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>>17647451

>> No.17654607

>>17654089
Yep, this dude made me a rich, blackpilled man.

>> No.17654764

>>17654089
Wish I'd seen this post couple weeks sooner.

>> No.17654793

>>17647451
Normalfag spotted

>> No.17654805

>>17654089
Does he state if it really only kills boomers or not?

>> No.17654825

>>17654089
This is scarily accurate for a /pol/ insider, but we also had that Epstein insider who was proven right.

>> No.17654828

>>17647451
Why wpuld you buy it this late in the game! 10 years the market is PUMPING!!! The likelihood of it crashing (and you getting screwed) increasing more and more every year and rather than be patient you buy a house!

You better have bought it as a home you intend to live in for a long time rather than as a financial investment cause otherwise if this turns out to be a Global Great Depression as I've been suspecting for a few months now than you will be screwed for maybe a decade or 2 or sooner if you get laid off and cant make payments.

>> No.17654863

>>17654805
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/241674007
Here's the whole thread. So glad we have sites that archive 4chan threads

>> No.17654878
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We're seeing something fucking incredible.
Something that's never happened before.

>> No.17654883
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It's actually over...

>> No.17654922
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>>17654878
This
Never ever has something in the investment world surprised me as much as this. When I saw it was below .9% the other day I thought for sure it was a misprint now its under .5 and my mind is blown

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>>17654878
>>17654922

can one of you actually explain in detail, the significance of that chart for the layman?

>> No.17654976

>>17654953
10 year bonds are a reflection of faith in the economy (it's more complex than that but you asked for laymen explanation)
People have less faith in the current order of things than during the great depression.

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>>17654976

>> No.17655009

>>17653126
$UPRO
$TMF
$GLD
55/35/10

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>>17654976
Ok, but doesn't this happen cyclically and with unforeseen events? What's so special about it now?

>> No.17655021

>>17654878
>14% bond rate

boomers had it so easy, fuck boomers.

>> No.17655038

>>17654953
It represents investor confidence. High yield = euphoric confidence. Low yield = the sum of all fear

>> No.17655057

>>17655016
>What's the big deal?
What part of being below what it was during the great depression did you fail to understand? Institutional investors are freaked the fuck out right now which is reason to worry as they know more than us.

>> No.17655068

>>17654953
People are pulling money out of the stock market and putting it into the safety of bonds, sending the price to record lows.

In short, recession at the minimum has begun, if not collapse.

>> No.17655070

>>17651844
Prepare for absolute banana frenzy

>> No.17655086

>>17647136
It means the world actually might be ending, unironically.

>> No.17655096

>>17655016
Investment bank books are melting rn (shadow banking stuff)
Beer virus fears caused meltdown last few weeks (11.5% dip was smart money btfo of the market)
OPEC is having a tantrum so they're going to force an oil glut which lead to futures freefalling 30% down
Crazy ducking stuff man

>> No.17655097

>>17654953
essential people are pulling out of stocks and going all in on government backed debt(safest investment)

Hence why the price(percent rate) is falling is because everyone is throwing money at it.
It also means the government can issue more debt more cheaper and thus will be lowering rates tomorrow or tuesday by 75bps.
Lower rates means more cheap money available and thus pushes stock prices and home prices and everything higher.

Its literally how the federal governments of the world impact their economies quickly.
We are negative on effective returns on all government bonds now. Means economical collapse is immanent as there is no where safe to put your money besides in cash which will cause feedback loop because there is limited cash and lots of people trying to go into cash instead of stocks/bonds ect


2008 happened because people(banks) stopped buying other peoples shitty debts(credit swaps) because it became clear no one would be paying those back.

>> No.17655117

>>17654953
The situation is worse then the great depression, despite 90 years of economic progress/increased money supply.


It's unironically fucking happening.

>> No.17655119

>>17652336
Based.

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>>17647123
Can someone explain bonds to me because this shit sounds retarded
>Government gives you a glorified IOU
>Say they'll borrow your money for 10 years at a now <0.5% annually
>Funding from the government comes from taxes paid by their investors anyways
>The principal plus interest (yield) is basically your own money
Am I missing something because this seems like the dumbest asset you can have.
I need an explanation bros I'm new to this shit

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>>17655096
repo market is have a heart failure atm

repo is not the car repo market btw not at all
>>17655086
this we might see negative rates causing absolute fuckstarting of the worlds reserve currency
>>17655068
QE4 official will begin with certainty this week or next week not sure how much that will help as investor confidence is being shattered atm

Free money isnt even worth it at that point

>> No.17655170

How will this affect cryptocurrencies?

>> No.17655185

>>17647416
Why treasuries and not cash?

>> No.17655210

>>17654089
What the ACTUAL fuck

>> No.17655220

>>17652356
this is the actual good advice, don't fall for the panic. Sure wait until thing settle, but the coming days and maybe weeks will be a golden buying opportunity. Imagine buying stocks right after the 2008 crash and where you'd be now

>> No.17655222

At .3 now

>> No.17655236

>>17655220
>Imagine buying stocks right after the 2008 crash and where you'd be now
Will this shit even go back up lol

>> No.17655238

>>17650947
I bought a house... cash.
I am actually pretty happy to be honest. I can now live rent free or rent it out and have a stable income. If I had kept that money in stocks I would already be like 15% down. House is in a good area and good security.
so suck my dick frog.

>> No.17655240

>>17655185
Inflation, cash loses value.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIscL-Bjsq4
thread theme

>> No.17655270

>>17655170
into the dumpster because china is dying

gold will go up
home prices will collapse as jobs are impacted no one will be buying out of fear not affordability

the most impacted will be luxury service sector AKA womans jobs(funny its international womens day today)
tourism and hotels will get fucked too. Bill gates owning four seasons hotel chain will lose a lot of money in the short term.
Oil will remain low as lack of travellers globally
A lot of airlines will basically go bankrupt within a year

Is anything safe? Yes
Depression stocks are good alcohol tobacco ect
Food based stocks will be an ok investment still
some entertainment stocks will remain ok too
war stocks will be good as well since almost always a big ass war follows this shit

>> No.17655300

>>17649817
Gas was 1.87 here at kwik star in iowa last week
Its gonna be free after this crash..

>> No.17655312

>>17654089
Shit like this is what I come to read

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hmmmmmm

>> No.17655349

>>17655236
of course! It always does, but only after it hits the bottom

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>>17655153
Thanks for the explanation. So the extent to which the yield has fallen is unprecedented?

Also, will more QE fix this like it did 10 years ago? How bad do you think house prices will fall?

>> No.17655385

>>17654878
>>17654922
this basically confirms that DB is going to default. we're going to see Lehman X10000000

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>>17655346
ummm
Is there anything stopping this going negative?

>> No.17655414

>>17655009
Can you explain why?
I dont understand the 3x leverage here, wont you just get fucked as the market dies?

>> No.17655427

>>17655127
It’s safe. Stocks aren’t.

>> No.17655429

>>17655097
amazing explanation, thank you.
What are you currently doing to mitigate your losses over the next year or two?

>> No.17655435

>>17655385
Deutsche Bank, Germany's main bank is going to declare bankruptcy?

>> No.17655458

>>17651916
>However, I don't think this is going to be very good for you trump lovers.
Trump's failure to act accordingly to contain and handle this situation fucked everything stateside. It was always going to hurt, but his attempt to keep shit calm only led to people realizing on their own how fucked everything is. So instead of a short hiccup and a hard hit to the economy guided by the security of the assertion of the federal government, it's a panicked frenzy amidst no recognized competency in the structure of authority.

>> No.17655489

>>17655429
almost all cash and waiting for home prices to fall to buy them cash as rentals
fuck the stock market shits all propped up by fake government injections of money right now
I would rather lose 2.5% a year sitting on cash assets than lose 40% in 4 weeks in the markets.
Vio bank is giving me 1.85% for a savings account
Keeping 100k~ in chase checking as an instant option because vio has limits on daily transfers

>> No.17655543

>>17655435
yes, i believe so

>> No.17655551

>>17655489
>almost all cash and waiting for home prices to fall to buy them cash as rentals
this is what I want to do as well.
what range are you buying in?
free standing or flats?
rural or urban area?
What would you consider the best buying options.
I am sitting on a lot of cash at the moment.

>> No.17655602

>>17655427
I trust the markets more than the government. The coronavirus is only so bad because the CCP is retarded

>> No.17655610

>>17655551
Ive looked at a lot of properties my market is one of the most volatile in the US and crashed the hardest in 08 but recovered the most now too.
Free standing
Ruralish
cash but i do see tax loans or bank repossessions becoming a good way in the next year or two if this market collapse continues.

People always need a place to live and stuff to eat hence why they are always good options

In the UK i would just stay away from luxury units in london and you should be ok for invesments

>> No.17655682

>>17655458
>Trump's failure to act accordingly to contain and handle this situation fucked everything stateside.
What could he have done realistically? Shutting down the border is obvious but it probably would've just delayed the inevitable

>> No.17655712

>>17655610
Great advice,

Thanks a lot man.

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>>17655264

>> No.17655826

>>17655682
He could've put on a serious face for once in his life and came out trying to act like a President instead of a Twitter shitposter, impressing the direness of the situation but also asserting that he is competent enough to rise to the task. A show of strength. It may in the moment shake the market, but it could boost confidence via pressing forward an assurance that the government will act swiftly and are taking matters seriously.
It wasn't just Trump mishandling it, though. The political farce and the Lugenpresse are to blame as well.

>> No.17655955

>>17655826
>The legacy media STILL has this much influence over us
I hate how fucking volatile the American people are Jesus Christ after all these years we probably deserve this shit.

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>>17647451

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>>17647451
>just bought a house

>> No.17656549

>>17654878
What was happening in the 1980s to make it so high?

>> No.17656665

>>17652867
Kek. You will make it. I also have SUTER. But hold Tether Gold anon, fuck the USD.

>> No.17656699

>>17655610
>People always need a place to live and stuff to eat hence why they are always good options
Not if people can't pay shit

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>>17656549
Paul Volker fighting off Gold which was trying to kill the USD.
https://m.theepochtimes.com/paul-volcker-gold-was-the-enemy_1299447.html