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>> No.18290242

BVLL! BVLL! BVLL!

>> No.18290246

May have to resort to spankings if scolding doesn’t do the trick

>> No.18290249
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>>18290191
>>18290176
>>18290106
>>18290097
we're fucked
>>18290090
yes
>>18290159
everybody laugh at the avatarfag

>> No.18290252
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>>18290242
Blood red monday fag

>> No.18290257
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Who's ready for $10 oil

>> No.18290263

SPY $180 PUT 17/4
how fucked am i

>> No.18290274
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RTX chads rise up

Anyone interested in the spinoffs? CARR looks kinda interesting, global warming = more HVAC demand

>> No.18290291

>>18290257
Me after literally fake and gay pumps stole 33% of my CSO value

>> No.18290292

>nothing could go wrong for being a little optimistic of the future
certain kinds of optimism are dangerous. if people believe that the healthcare system is sufficiently supplied with ventilators then they're more likely to flout the lockdown and spread the virus, stretching the optimistic ventilator supply.

>> No.18290294

USO $4 puts better print. It's been propped up on hope the entire last month.

>> No.18290299

>>18290252
Delvsional bearcvck. The past 4 Mondays have finished in the green. BVLL! BVLL! BVLL!

>> No.18290301

>>18290263
If you aren't confident in your position to the degree that you have to ask how fucked you are to a bunch of strangers on an image board, then you're obviously treating the market as a slot machine and you have no business investing until you learn how to manage your money properly.

>> No.18290304

>>18290225

SYK producing 10k emergency beds a week. What other companies to look to for essential medical supplies/PPE, plastic disposable consumer / medical PPE things, etc.

Anything sanitary / consumable in the sense that you need to keep using a 'fresh clean' product over and over again.

>> No.18290305
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So let me get this straight:
>Put life savings in the index of your choice (FTSE, S&P, DOW, whatever)
>Even if we get a few shit years, it'll average 2% growth a year before dividends
>Dividends are typically like 4% of your total holdings, so your amount of holdings should go up 4% a year
>1.02*1.04 is approx 1.06%
>Therefore on pessimistic estimates, you grow your wealth by 6% a year by throwing it in an index and doing nothing
So why does anyone looking look term bother with bonds on lock-in ISA schemes? Their rates are 2% at absolute best. Are my numbers wrong?

>> No.18290310

AY YO HOW COME I DONT SEE YOU BITCH ASS SPAM UP /POL/ HUH? IS IT CAUSE THE STOCK MARKET IS ACTUALLY ON THE RISE AGAIN?

fuck off with your dooms day garbage when it is convenient for you, everyone knows the stocks are reactionary as fuck to any slight upset to the normal.

>> No.18290319

>>18290292
Bullish
Those who are physically and mentally unhealthy have no place in our future
Let them spread the disease

>> No.18290328

>>18290310
whomst doth thou quote, niggardly knave?

>> No.18290348

>>18290299
>Me: Bearchad Bane
>You: Pencil next stock guy

https://youtu.be/8IfTwS7dGz0

>> No.18290359

>>18290294
I'm expecting it. No amount of off-the-cuff Trump tweets are going to prop the industry further, senpai. You should be fine, especially since the meetings been pushed back. No one is going to want to hold through the week, especially with futures looking the way the are. Oil as a whole is going to get absolutely btfo on opening bell.

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>> No.18290367

>>18290305
People buy bonds when they are sensitive to volatility. Institutions use bonds for many purposes.

>> No.18290371
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all of humanity getting wiped out would be unironically bullish. think about it.

>> No.18290373
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When will I know its safe to buy an REIT.

MFA has a pretty good track record, right now they are in water because debtors are trying to collect while their asset values are fucked by corona. If news comes out theyve handled the issue, it's a safe bet that it will go back up near where it was, right?

>> No.18290375
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMs9rWa5pmA

TALK ME OUT OF BUYING CORPORATE DEBT
FESTIVAL CRUISES: TOO BIG TO FAIL

>>18290348
superhero movies are often great for playing out fantasies that don't occur in the real world, like bad things happening to rich people.

>> No.18290383

>>18290373
why would you gamble on an industry that's destined to fail

>> No.18290397

>>18290375
Carnival will not fail. They have 18 billion in liquidity now that they issued new bonds and their costs are about 180 million a month to store their fleet and other expenses they will be just fine

>> No.18290402

Whatever happened to the guy(s) in these threads that were holding luckin coffee?

>> No.18290405
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>>18290371
When nobody's producing goods or services
Everyone is

>> No.18290406

>>18290383
I don't care if they fail long term, If I can get in for under $2, I'll sell at 3 and get the fuck out.

>> No.18290416

>>18290402
Dangling from the ceiling fan

>> No.18290423

>>18290367
In addition to stability they provide tax free income. If you're wealthy enough, you can basically live off your bond portfolio while still having most of your assets in equities.

>> No.18290431

>>18290406
Where's your honor dude? If you invest in a company you should go down with the ship like an honorable samurai

>> No.18290434

>>18290373
Dead people don't buy houses
Dead companies don't rent offices or warehouses

>> No.18290435

>Hurr oil go up!
>Stocks go up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm3TjRxntQk

>> No.18290437

>>18290402
Nobody was holding is retard

>> No.18290448
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Just filed tax return. For the first time in three years the government actually owes me a refund.

HAHAhahhahahahahahahaha GIMME.

>> No.18290450

Hope you boys are ready for the Fed to own the entire US oil industry

>> No.18290461

>>18290406
the point is there's no guarantee that it will jump. usually not a good idea to bet against the long term if you can avoid it. why not bet on something that you can hold if you need to?

>> No.18290468

>>18290448
You gave the government an interest free loan, congratulations

>> No.18290485

>>18290450
And just like that, the US has somehow managed to nationalize their oil industry like the fucking socialist countries.

Though honestly it's just going to be bailouts where the government takes away all the risk.

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WealthSimple still hasn't actually processed the RTX merger, I phoned them and apparently it could take up to 5 business days

Fucking WealthSimple

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>>18290304
Here's a list of publicly traded companies whose stuff I use on a daily basis. That doesn't mean their stocks will go up, mind you.
>CAH
Transport vents, airway devices, a wide variety of disposable products like masks and gloves.
>PFE
"staple" meds like epinepherine, KCl, Mg, CaCL.
>SYK
Beds, stretchers, surgical devices, I think they bought out PsyioControl a while ago so now they make shit ton of pic related.
>AZN
Most of the abx we use.
>BMY
A lot of cardiac meds.
>BAX
IV maintenance fluids like NS or LR
>MDT
Monitors.
>TMDX
If it dips to $10 again when we bottom out I'm buying a shit ton. We're still using their products on a daily basis.

>> No.18290502

>>18290286
>Or Russia/Saudi Arabia could keep pumping, the price goes down even more, 95%+ of shale companies go bust then they do a huge coordinated cut and put oil at $60-80+ over the next year or two.
why should they do that? the us-shale will be subsidized by the us economy. what factor could possibly harm them?

>> No.18290507

>>18290486
I got the fuck out of wealthsimple about 5 days after I started and went to Questrade. Way better

>> No.18290513

>>18290498
CAH's 5 year graph is pretty brutal

>>18290507
I'm way too poor for $10/trade commissions to be anything but prohibitive

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>>18290416
this

>> No.18290522

>>18290301
recognizing it's gambling is a healthier state of mind than thinking you actually have an edge against algorithms and supercomputers developed by orders of magnitude more PhDs than were on the Manhattan project.

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>>18290373
I think that NRZ will no longer exist by this time next year. REITs have to do a lot of stupid shit to pay out such high dividends and now they're paying the price for it.

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>>18290402

>> No.18290528
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>>18290292
Yeah, I know I always make a little mental estimate of ventilator availability before I flout quarantine.

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>>18290431
Top kek

>> No.18290533

>>18290513
Its 4.95 a trade it's better then getting raped in their us dollar conversion that you have to do every time you make a trade because you can only hold CAD in a wealthsimple trade account so unless you only trade with canadian securities you get fucked on currency conversion

>> No.18290552

>>18290468
You made an irrelevant and tired old argument. Congrats.

>>18290434
True enough, but foreign money keeps flowing in to buy up US realty.

>>18290498
Eying PFE for that reason. But how will they handle meeting all the demand? How much of their manufacturing can get done during th is, and how much is done overseas in areas that are either totally fucked, or preventing exports of medical equipment?

Some interest in AZN and BMY as well. Got out of BMY because I haven’t evaluated their balance sheet and assessed how much demand will lessen when people with chronic diseases die off. AZN has GBP risk and I don’t know enough about that or their moneymakers.

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>>18290513
Yeah, a lot of these companies have a lot of problems like huge debt on the books. However, all of the products I listed are basically the bread and milk of the medical industry, if that makes any sense, they'll never stop selling basic stuff like D5W.

>> No.18290565

>>18290520
Does she keep a spare tire in her car?

>> No.18290570

>>18290305
If you buy individual stocks instead of just buying an index, bonds and bond funds are a great place to keep dry powder.

>> No.18290593

>>18290498
What a big maker of generic medication?

>> No.18290606

>>18290562
Sure but if it’s generic and there’s nothing to stop another company from making the same thing, they can get swooped on like the generics Generally have been by Indian and Chinese manufactures.

>> No.18290611

>>18290593
>generic medication
generics literally all come from india. only a small amount is left in china because its too expensive to produce in china.
india is the place for generics.

>> No.18290619

>>18290552
Ever met a successful person that claimed it was the tax refunds were the key to successful financial management?

>> No.18290635

>>18290611
Figures, that's why burgers gets fucked.

>> No.18290644

>>18290533
WS charges 1.5% each way on the conversion, so whether Questrade is better is basically a function if whether 3% of your average purchase is >$5 CAD

Right now I'm pretty much just fucking around with excess tuition money. If I start putting real money in I'll find a real broker.

>> No.18290646

>>18290533
Yeah to buy, costing $15 in commission to sell

>> No.18290656

>>18290310
nigger

>> No.18290657

>>18290606
That's more prescription medication but you're right. I guess I'm stuck in a critical care mindset, where the majority of meds we use are all manufactured stateside because we can't have Ranjesh getting ecoli or klebisella in the ringer's lactate kek.
>>18290552
I've been meaning to evaluate PFE further, I might do that tonight. The fact that they own so much and get sued constantly makes me a little wary though.

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>>18290619
>Ever met a successful person that claimed it was the tax refunds were the key to successful financial management?
not yet in person, but

>> No.18290665

>>18290619
Nope. Nor have I met a wealthy person that said the difference was made by not withholding taxes from your paychecks.

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So I am looking at bonds and each bond is worth $1000, but why is the price of the bond something like $101.500? Why is it priced like that? What am I actually buying? I've been Googling all day and I can't figure out this discrepancy.

>> No.18290669

I've come to the conclusion that there should be a >1% tax on all speculative instruments because what we do adds no value to anyone.

>> No.18290683

Any eurofags here? I'm looking for a decent broker because my current one (subsidiary of Paribas) is being a fuckin jew.

>> No.18290686
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how did yall learn to trade?

>> No.18290690

>>18290666
provide screenshot

>> No.18290702

>>18290686
By losing lots of money until you get good enough that you only lose a little money.

>> No.18290740
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>>18290690
Just go to your brokerage website and search for bonds and look at the price.

>> No.18290750

someone want to recap trump stuff?
>>18290666
usually they sell stacks of bonds, there can be a minimum order with bonds, so while the bond value is $100, it might cost $1000 if the minimum order is 10 bonds.

>> No.18290758

>>18290740
provide a bigger screenshot with context. is this probably buy and sell?

>> No.18290760

TSLA up or down on Monday?

I'm thinking down but I really have no clue.

>> No.18290761

>>18290686
You make 10k a day, but it's only costs you 15k. It's great.

>> No.18290772

>>18290686
i logged on and was disappointing by the measly fucking +2% a month.
so i turned that into -10% weekly and since then i've been hooked

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Should I start investing in hard assets like plague memorabilia? For instance, the upcoming fauci bobblehead?

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>>18290758
I looked up all the other terms, but then this bid/ask says 99.650/100.170! Why would A bond that is worth $1000 cost $100??

>> No.18290803

>>18290669
I've come to the conclusion that you're a faggot.

>> No.18290807

>>18290468
Why do people say that? The withholding is an estimate I thought.

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are you fearful of the monday?

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>>18290772
Nice.

>> No.18290825

>>18290809
Nah I think Monday will turn out fine.

>> No.18290833

>>18290760
This market is so volatile that day trading is pure gambling. Positive and negative news and rumors can have a direct or inverse effect for seemingly no reason.
I'm thinking the only valid plays right now are either playing the volatility, which requires a lot of skill and is anxiety inducing for me, or placing long term bets on companies which probably won't die when we eventually drop another 30% to what is hopefully the true bottom.

>>18290772
2% a month is beating the market by a fair amount. I'd be thrilled to maintain that month over month.

>> No.18290859

HOW DO I STOP BEING AFRAID OF CORONAVIRUS AND LEARN TO LOVE THE BOMB???? im not even joking, im sick of feeling anxious about this stuff every day while locked in my house more or less. i did nothing to create this situation and i can do nothing to fix it, im literally a victim (despite how much liberlols corrupted that word).

do i just wait while this keeps getting worse and worse and when i die just be like "welp sometimes shit happens i guess"? im only 30 i deserve another 30-40 years at a minimum of life. if we survive this im gonna hate chinks for the rest of my fucking life and do everything i can to inflict misery on every one i meet i swear i will.

>> No.18290861

>>18290533
It's 0.01 per share, minimum $4.95 and maximum $9.95. So if you transact less than 49 shares it's $4.95, after that it goes up linearly to $9.95 at 100 shares.
Wealthsimple is really the only option for stocks that you want to trade and not invest, questrade is better in every way other than that. Even if you're the kind of boomer who needs a manager, they have much lower fees for that. Their software and interface are a billion times better (wealthsimple's is a complete mockery), they have USD accounts, they have a significantly higher variety of stuff to trade (wealthsimple has many restrictions on what they list).
I think canadians are better off investing in stocks and trading ETFs unless they're filthy rich to the point they can afford to lose $10 per trade and still be trading (or only invest in high-value stock to stay at $5 fees despite high investment amounts, even then that's very limiting and still means stop-limits are much more costly than you might otherwise expect).

>> No.18290866

>>18290859
are you healthy?

>> No.18290867

>>18290686
ima need you to stop posting lewds, im sharing a hotel room with my grandfather and can't masturbate

>> No.18290868

Guys the global pandemic the likes of which the world has never seen is priced in.

>> No.18290870

is there any viable european alternative for SQQQ?

>> No.18290873

You'll cowards need to buy EGOV. I keep telling you

>> No.18290876

>>18290870
DAX leveraged short?

>> No.18290889

How do I turn my 1200 trumpbux into BIG MONEY?

>> No.18290890

>>18290859
This generation is weak. Are you going to tell your grandkids "we had to sit inside and an orange man gave us money"

>> No.18290896

Crudebois going to get buttfucked on Monday. At least petroleum jelly is so cheap now

>> No.18290900

>>18290686
the real answer is a lot of reading, a lot of backtesting, and a lot of paper trading. then after at least a year of that pretty much full-time, you start trading with small amounts of money making maybe $10-20 bets essentially. then if THAT is also still successful, you can slow start incrementally increasing your position size ($30 bets, then $40, $50, etc).

99% of people don't want to do this. the vast majority of people do not have the attention span required to look at and analyze charts for hours upon hours every day for months. and that's why so many people fail at this.

>> No.18290903

>>18290859
You grow a pair of balls or you wont make it through more months of this.

>> No.18290906

>>18290873
explain why in 2 sentences

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Let's try this again: TSLA up or down Monday?

>> No.18290910

>>18290866
yeah, but i have boomer parents so obviously im afraid for them the most. also honestly it's less about the coronavirus and more about the world economy fucking imploding and i have no idea what this "Great Depression 2.0" thing everyone is hyping up is going to be like, saying it's "10x worse" and shit, businesses going bankrupt. the coronavirus was more just the catalyst, what im so afraid of is society collapsing and there being no escape.

>> No.18290919

So wait
Was I a retard for holding $25 SCO over the weekend or not?

>> No.18290927

>>18290868
It's literally, LITERALLY just the flu.

>> No.18290928

>>18290908
Crab

>> No.18290941

>>18290890
if you could guarantee me that would be the outcome i wouldn't have a problem with any of this. im actually in a really strong position when dealing with this crisis (myself and my father/brother all still have good engineering jobs, and i day trade as a side hustle). im naturally an introvert who spends most of his time on the computer so im cool with staying inside all year idgaf.

but if society collapses, i won't be telling my grandkids anything because they won't exist because we'll all be dead.

>> No.18290942

>>18290928
Why crab?

>> No.18290948

>>18290927
i don't understand why we were so unprepared for this thing, despite all of the other memedemics we've been through. we are the most advanced technologically that we have ever been, and yet we have nothing to compete with bat soup, it's insane. i still can't believe everything got THIS fucked up, THIS quickly. it's infuriating.

>> No.18290952

>>18290910
dude you sound like a faggot with no scope of life

learn how to fight and study the Tao

>> No.18290953

>>18290919
Nobody fucking knows how oil will move on Monday. One thing's for sure it will be the only thing really moving on Monday.

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>>18290890
>we'll have grandkids
bretty much, but I expect Trump to majorly fuck some shit up before then, and to get material evidence of his mismanagement and push to just "ride it out" and let er rip. Shame he had a health crisis during his presidency, if it had just been a hostage crisis or purely economic crisis, could have been different.

>>18290919
>>18290873
at least copy-paste the name of the etf or describe it, I don't want to have to google each of your memes based off the ticker.

>>18290953
>it will be the only thing really moving on Monday.
source?

>> No.18290985

>>18290908
Wtf that's not titties

>> No.18290986

corona only kills minorities, boomers and fags
Its literally Gods will, sweeping through the world killing sinners.

>> No.18290990

>b*lls getting cocky
Yeah I'm thinking we dump again on monday

>> No.18290995

>>18290900
what charts are you talking about?

>> No.18290997

>>18290952
>learn how to fight and study the Tao
none of that will matter if society collapses. what do you expect me to do, jackie chan a group of wild niggers? yeah im sure that's realistic.

>> No.18291002

>>18290975
>source?
People need a few days to learn Buffett dumped for the dump to start.

>> No.18291007

>>18290927
Even if that were true, the actual threat level of the virus is basically irrelevant at this point. People could stop dieing for the coronavirus literally in the next minute and the world has still changed forever. 95% of people on the face of the entire earth have changed their behaviors over night.

I'm not going to debate the severity of the virus. The severity of the reaction however, is undeniable. Go to any grocery store. Look at any stock chart. Look at an unemployment number. Even if it is just sniffles, shit is fucked.

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>> No.18291013

>>18290975
SCO is 2x Leveraged Bear Oil

>> No.18291017

>>18290948
The fact is, the current real estate memery is a good metaphor for how the entire world has been operating for the past 30 or so years: overleveraged, reckless, full-offense in every facet of life. No attempt to protect against risk, all-or-nothing in every single bet. Why? Because there's been no, or almost no, cost to failure for too long, and profiting is a rich-get-richer pyramid scam. When you make money your god, you get WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE. Or not, because money becomes so important that governments the world over decide that printing infinite money makes total sense.

>> No.18291019

>>18290870
Make xtb account
Trade 20x leveraged CFDs
Lose all your money and never touch stick market again

>> No.18291020

>>18290910
I've been using this as the catalyst to improve myself. Got my gun, ammo, and food in February, been steadily losing a pound a week, cutting down my mile time. Honestly best thing that's happened to me.

>> No.18291024

>>18290953
opec meeting postponed dipshit

>> No.18291032

>>18291007
Of course, the conclusion isn't that 'we weren't ready for the flu' but rather that people are dumb cattle and governments are just another kind of business, things nobody should be surprised to learn nowadays.

>> No.18291035 [DELETED] 

>>18290908
Did you know that Israel is the top country in the interpretative dancing?
Google dancing israelis

>> No.18291042

>>18291017
>real estate
I'm worried about foreign powers buying it, preventing it from falling down as needed.

>> No.18291069

>>18290995
candlestick charts. you have to experience different market conditions firsthand and test out your trading system on them to see how you would have done if you traded that day.

>> No.18291070 [DELETED] 

All these "muh charts" people will soon realize it doesn't work in a clown market. The skillset you need right now to succeed is look at a bunch of companies debt and amount of hurt they're in etc, the sector forecast, how much they contract in recessions, etc. Also have to follow all the news because rumors like Trump throws out will literally turn the market upside down for a week.

>> No.18291077

>>18291042
Likewise.

>> No.18291081
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I hope Monday is big red open into big green EoD.

>> No.18291082

>>18290941
Society isn't going to collapse. Worse case scenario countries are going to realize that saving 8% of boomer isn't worth destroying their countries economy for the next 50 years. People will go back to work, boomers will be told to fuck off for once in their lives. Millenials will still foot the bill and be the most fucked generation financially though except for those who remained employed and bought the dip.

>>18290975
I think this ultimately will hand Trump the next election and he will be remembered "mixed fondly". It shouldn't be the case, but Democrats have managed to go full retard for the entire duration of his presidency and somehow managed to make the relief bill even worse for the unemployed, seemingly to spite Trump. Sweden is basically full on giving no fucks about the virus. If they come out ontop of this, Trump's early words will be vindicated. If not he will have something to say "maybe we didn't act that fast, but we are doing much better than Sweden people and let me tell you..."

>> No.18291086

>>18291035
They also are great at ship deconstruction, USS Liberty is a good example. Was so good the medal of honor was not given in public for the first time ever.

>> No.18291110

>>18290861
Yeah 1 cent a share so I'm trading 50 or 100 shares usually so I pay the min. Also no commissions on buying ETF'S only on selling them

>> No.18291118

>9/11 retroactively was a nothing burger
>>18291082
Brazil is going to be hit the worst by far of any country in the world. Sweden at least has a medical system that can confront it at first.

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3rd time's a charm.

TSLA up or down on Monday bros?

>> No.18291129

>>18291127
go commit die

>> No.18291132

>>18291032
Yes. But I think it's not entirely fair to label people as full on retarded. Part of this is the news media's fault. They've hyped every virus out of China as "the end times" for the last 10 years. It became noise. Now, when one actually matters they found that they have worn out the rope on the alarm bells. Then we have communist China to blame for suppressing the shit out of the severity in order to save face. Going literally as far to arrest doctors for speaking out about it.

Still do not fucking understand the toilet paper thing though, I am down to 5 rolls and getting worried. I have visited the store everyday for 5 days and I think I'm going to have to camp in front of the store before it opens at this point.

>> No.18291137

>>18291129
Go commit not live

>> No.18291154
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Fuck off polcücks
you've got your own goddamned board to sperg in, let ONE THREAD be about stocks and business and not your obsessions.

At least we had a decent conversation about race realism and economics earlier, this shit isn't even close to relevant.

>>18291042
this is one of the least appreciated aspects of the "real estate bubble"

Wealthy chinks and russians, and others, cannot trust the rule of law and protection of private property in their own countries, and they can't even trust their own currencies. So they invest in the places they think are the most likely to maintain value, appreciate in value, and not be appropriated by government.

Our legal system, for all of its flaws, is a big reason business is able to flourish in the US, and investors are willing to throw their local bucks into the dollar, the S&P, and the US property.

>> No.18291156

>>18291132
Just order some on amazon. It's what I did in late January since I knew this was going to be a big deal.

>> No.18291159

>>18291017
>how the entire world has been operating for the past 30 or so years: overleveraged, reckless, full-offense in every facet of life. No attempt to protect against risk, all-or-nothing in every single bet. Why? Because there's been no, or almost no, cost to failure for too long, and profiting is a rich-get-richer pyramid scam.
Isn't it beautiful how the systemic immanent errors not only sum up but exponentiate themselves?
Liberal capitalism is going to implode.

The only question is: when.
Probably in 50 years, in 100 years. It won't last the next 500 years that's for sure.

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>>18291035
Can you schizos go back to saying jews did 9/11. It was simpler back then

>> No.18291176

>>18291118
Some countries are about to get absolutely REKT, yes. Which is good for the US, because then we get to look like a 1st world country again by sending aid, when our curve has settled down. Expect massive face saving efforts from all countries after this.

>>18291127
Don't know but if the first digit becomes a 3 it's a buy or me.

>> No.18291181

>>18291127
everything down on monday cunt

>> No.18291205

>>18291159
just let it last long enough for me to live out my happy life and then die of natural causes in my sleep, max comfy. then it can all burn to cinders for all i care.

>> No.18291207

>>18290807
If you owe the government money and you hold it until later they fine you.
If the government owes you money and holds it until later you are just lucky to get it back.

I just find it comical people bragging about getting "free money" during tax returns are really just celebrating like they put $1.00 into a vending machine, purchased an item for $0.75 and got a quarter back. Except it took months or longer to get the quarter back.

Congratulations, you didn't get robbed. I am so happy for you.

>> No.18291219

>>18291024
Are you implying oil will dump? It pumped 5 dollars on no meeting.

>> No.18291229

>>18291205
its extremely likely that the system will last as long as we live. because evolution is against everything massively cooperative beyond plain personal advantage like hunting together.

>> No.18291242

Does anyone here use vanguard as their brokerage of choice? I set up my IRA with them like 4 years ago, but I've been trading stocks on TD Ameritrade for the past year where I've been paying $7 a trade, but over on Vanguard they claim $0 commission on basically everything. Is there any reason to not migrate my TD Ameritrade portfolio over to Vanguard and just do everything in one account?

>> No.18291265

>>18291154
You think they got hit hard enough in the lockdowns that they'll be delayed from buying? How much time would be bought with it before they start scooping it all up?

>> No.18291266
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18291266

>SENIOR MILITARY OFFICIALS EVACUATED TO CHEYANNE MOUNTAIN

>SENIOR MILITARY OFFICIALS EVACUATED TO CHEYANNE MOUNTAIN


>SENIOR MILITARY OFFICIALS EVACUATED TO CHEYANNE MOUNTAIN
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/03/30/colorado-springs-dod-coronavirus-pandemic-troops/

>> No.18291267

>>18291219
"oil is actually even lower than you think" -- trump

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>>18291082
>body4jLI
who's jLI?
I'm not sure. During Bush Jr. I would've sworn republicûcks were laughably incompetent, but now I have few illusions.

The only important thing to government is to keep the two parties in power so nothing ever changes in a way that would destabilize their control over the US.

They are highly competent at getting people to never vote for a third party, and keeping the illusion of choice in place. The goal is less about this election or that one, and more about making people feel like they have a say.

>>18291181
Oh yeah?
What about USD and Gold? JPY and the yield on the 10-year?

>>18291207
Are you talking about inflation between payday and next april? Seriously? Or that the IRS would just refuse to pay tax refunds?

Or the fabulous risk-free reward people would get from sticking that withheld pay into a savings account? Not a moneymarket fund, as those are not even FDIC insured.

I see nothing wrong with the 1-11 month loan you're giving the government by having your taxes withheld. The only problem is if you 100% run out of cash, in which case you'd be fucked anyways if you couldn't pay your taxes.

>>18291242
TDA doesn't charge for trades anymore.

Vanguard has the advantage of letting you invest in Vanguard Mutual Funds free of charge. As far as I can tell that's literally it. It's tempting for me as VDIGX looks like a well-run fund, but it's not geared for daytraders and most who try to actively trade on it have complaints.

>> No.18291282

>>18291242
TDA should be commission free for you now

>> No.18291283

>>18291127
Down, but it won't plummet. Wait a few months. Their Q2 is going to liquid shit.

>> No.18291289

>>18291266
BVLLISH. This ensures that America will ALWAYS make it on top!

>> No.18291290

>>18291229
i hope so. similar to some other anons i've been kind of "preparing" myself as well, getting healthier and focusing more on self-improvement. i have no FID and no way to get a gun and bullets and learn how to use it, so im fucked there, but I've got a bat and a machete at least so i'm not completely unarmed. my hope is that we get at least one more decade long bull run after this is over and when that happens i make enough money so i can at least build an underground bunker stocked with years worth of canned food, weapons, medicine, and entertainment, just in case. i feel like anyone who thinks they can handle society collapsing just hanging out in their mountain homes with a rifle is fooling themselves, you need some place where people won't even know you're there and would need heavy duty explosives to have any hope of getting to you and your supplies.

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>>18291176
you mean the last digit. the first is really easy to predict that it's going to be 1.

>> No.18291297

>>18291280
E V E R Y T H I N G

>> No.18291299

>>18290375
If he did all that to get 9% which is less than going all in in the Bank of Amanda then that's kinda lame, he's already running on the idea it can't fail. Diversifying means little when 90% of everything will encounter some sort of problem.

>> No.18291300

I da know, i feel like oil is going to shoot up on monday. What with crude oil going from 20 to 30 last week and people finally remembering that oil is pretty much the lifeblood of the modern world.

>> No.18291307

>>18291266
I'm surprised this hadn't been done already.

>> No.18291319

>>18291291
How many Tesla shorters have to die my friend?

>> No.18291325

>>18291307
It has been done already but at other secret places. This is the third team or some shit

>> No.18291327

>>18291300
I feel like oil is going to go up on Monday because I shorted it.
remember the most important economic force of all, Anon's Law.
Which states that the market will always drive the direction that fucks me in particular the most.

>> No.18291329

>>18291300
It is a clownmarket after all.

>> No.18291339

>>18291265
Who's they? Foreign investors? I really don't know how this would effect them.

>> No.18291346

>>18291300
Lol no.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/04/oil-set-to-crater-monday-as-opec-meeting-delayed-tensions-flare-between-saudi-arabia-and-russia.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain

>> No.18291347

>>18291267
>"oil is actually even lower than you think" -- trump
i heard that too. what did he mean by that unironically?

>> No.18291348

likelihood that gubment requires companies to move production to the US?
right now, something like 3% of production must be done in the US; if that was bumped to 51%, it would mean that supply chain would be resolved in case of a future pandemic

>> No.18291351

>>18291300
see >>18290987

>> No.18291358

Any Canadian here? What platform do you use to trade options?

>> No.18291367

>>18291290
implosion of the current practiced version of capitalism is not going to appear until several decades. no need to become hysterical. but in general its not bad to be prepared for some kind of things like this pandemic shows.

>> No.18291374

>>18291346
Russia profits from a $20 barrel of oil, they also 20 years worth of oil in their reserve, they can keep this game going indefinitely.

>> No.18291381

>>18291280
I have about 400 shares of VDIGX at the moment. Started with $3K in 2016, reinvested all dividends and added roughly 1k a year. The overall return at this point is +9.1%

>>18291282
I think I mistook the 6.95 commission as both for buying and selling, after looking back through some of my order history I see that is not the case.

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>>18291319
all i know is i exited Tesla at 620 USD

>> No.18291387

>>18291367
this pandemic definitely woke me up that's for sure. now there is my life before coronachan and after coronachan, it has completely destroyed my old world view.

>> No.18291388

>>18291374
>Russia profits from a $20 barrel of oil
where did you get this number from? i read 30$ at least.

>> No.18291395

>>18291351
did you learn nothing the last 3 weeks?
the price is not about supply and demand anymore.

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>>18291347
He probably means inflation adjusted value.

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>new york is going to get utterly fucked by wuflu, supply lines being fucked, likely needing more vents than cuomo's predictions call for, and nypd being sick
bullish as fuck

>> No.18291421

>>18291381
A lot better than VTSAX I’d bet, or straight S&P.

>> No.18291422

>>18291374
That's not true. Russia needs around $35-$40 to "balance their books" and they have roughly a decade in their reserve according to Russia themselves

>> No.18291436

>>18291417
_riced i_
would you like to solve or spin the wheel

>> No.18291437

What do you guys listen to when you lose catastrophically? For me it’s the boonies

https://youtube.com/watch?v=5Yter5wR5AU

>> No.18291441

>>18290997
oh you live in america?

buy a gun, learn how to fight and study the Tao

and please please please stop being such a little faggot

>> No.18291447

>>18291436
BRICED IM

>> No.18291458

>>18291422
thats what i read. advantage is weak ruble but thats what like 20% less and would result in about 30$/barrel

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>>18291437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVItfqQyb8g

>> No.18291462

>>18290593
Teva

>> No.18291493

>>18291441
imagine shilling gook philosophy at a time like this.

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18291495

Which one of you cool dudes was suggesting califags can invest in a mossberg 500 for home defense?

Can I order one of these on the interwebs through a legal and above-board method and have it shipped to me? I think all the stores are closed. I don’t expect I’ll be needing it where I am, but one never knows.

>>18291436
Unironically, Fauci or Birx states today that all of their models were based on the scenario of New York’s healthcare system being completely overwhelmed.

That game was rigged from the start.

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18291509

U S A

U S A

U S A

U S A

>> No.18291512

>>18291460
bro what the fuck

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give me your favorite meme stock
tired of trading SPY

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>>18291395
>the price is not about supply and demand anymore
You're right! It's also who is on the verge of insolvency!

Don't be stupid. US exports are a third of what Saudis are capable of, and while the Saudis can play their game for a while, the damage is already done, and they have just as much skin in the game as we do and want an agreement to secure their own profits. The fact that the meeting got pushed back just shows the amount of top-level disorganization, and it's not good for market confidence. If we don't see oil drop on Monday, I'll drink my own piss.

>> No.18291522

>>18291437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuDKfGi_7-I

>> No.18291531

>>18291493
retard who cares where it comes from if it's useful, what a dumb thing to say

>> No.18291557

>>18291515
>tired of trading a monetary printing press
gamblers arent gonna make it

>> No.18291560

>>18291460
I respect this

>> No.18291562

>>18291509
china so obviously lying about their numbers holy shit.

>> No.18291575

>>18291531
Except that philosophy is conceptualized by fucking bug people. How about you read about Celtic philosophy or are you Asian?

>> No.18291579

>>18291515
i literally only trade /ES and AMD. i have yet to find a better day trading stock than AMD, the fucker is always in play and trends real nicely, and is also an extremely strong growth company with factories in taiwan instead of china, with great management and products. also i can afford 1k shares because of their price, more shares now since they tanked obviously lol.

>> No.18291581

>>18291520
>If we don't see oil drop on Monday, I'll drink my own piss.
im pretty sure that we will see a drop too. but not a huge one. it wont go below 20$. sure thats like -30% but not catastrophic.

>US exports are a third of what Saudis are capable of
us oil industry doesnt need exports. they can sell most of their product domestically and protected by tariff.
>while the Saudis can play their game for a while, the damage is already done, and they have just as much skin in the game as we do
the bill is paid by the us economy and in the end by the us citizens. they subsidize the us oil industry. but obviously thats pure politics.
>want an agreement to secure their own profits
i think when trump gets the US oil industry a domestic price of 40$/b with astronomical tariff and therefore close to no import of foreign oil KSA and RUS will agree on cutbacks until the global marketprice will reach around 30, maybe 35$. not enough for US shale but pretty good for KSA and RUS.
i dont see a reason why they should not do that. they have pressure on the US and at the same time a good income that saves them at least a few billion a week.

>> No.18291595

>>18291562
>china so obviously lying about their numbers holy shit.
id say you can easily multiply their death toll by 10 because you can see those 3000 casualties on the available videos alone.

>> No.18291602

>>18291575
I'm celtic you utter retard. You are way out of your depth in this conversation and this profession.

>> No.18291611

>>18291602
kek

>> No.18291612

>>18291495
>Can I order one of these on the interwebs through a legal and above-board method and have it shipped to me?
You can order one but I'm pretty sure you have to pick it up at a dealer and show them your firearm safety certificate (or pay to take the test at said dealer). Also make sure the weapon is CA legal first (I think most, if not all, Mossburg 500s are but double check as CA gun laws are constantly changing) else the gun will probably be shipped back.
>I think all the stores are closed.
Depends on the county.

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>>18291562
Nah it's just the traditional Chinese medicine that does the trick...

The Spanish Flu that killed 25% of the world population 100 years ago most likely originated from China because while the rest of the world were dying China was somewhat unaffected. It's theorized that they had already gone through it several years before and the population had developed immunity. To debunk this in 2010 China claimed that it was simply due to the traditional Chinese medicine.

>>18291595
Multiply it by 50 and it's probably closer to the truth. The outbreak started in November.

>> No.18291620

TSLA or PAH3

>> No.18291644

>>18291620
TSLA under $450

>> No.18291657

Should I buy bonds?

>> No.18291658

>>18291644
They have their battery and powertrain day on the 20th I think. Could pump it

>> No.18291659

>>18291562
can we take some time and LARP, imagining what /smg/ is going to look like when the REAL numbers are actually revealed(leaked)?

>> No.18291668

>>18291657
No not really

>> No.18291677

>>18291644
I would buy under $400, so no PAH3, they also switched to E-cars

>> No.18291678

>>18291668
Why not? Isn't it guaranteed % gain (given they aren't called early)?

>> No.18291683

>>18291618
i unironically hope that the whole world gets cured of this mess as soon as possible, except China. i hope just China and chinks get turbofucked by this thing, mass death inspiring mass protests and violent riots. xinnie the poo and other party members getting violently tortured and killed, the whole 9 yards.

they get what they fucking deserve.

>> No.18291685

>>18291659
what do you think would change then?

>> No.18291713

>>18290523
It's unironically one of the few things I've been DCAing down on (NLY and QYLD as well). A lot of it was due to the overall strength of the company over the years, and yea that divie, but the way it's crashed as opposed to every other sector has me worried. They could get bailed out, but if they don't I'll feel absolutely retarded of they go under. I know I can bounce back, but it would take a LONG time

>> No.18291719

>>18291612
Thanks a lot. Unfortunately I just can’t risk getting virused right now, so I won’t be taking any courses or visiting any stores. Too bad.

I’ll have to remember to get one for the next happening.

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>>18291683
corona was ignored during chinese new years, where everybody travels all over the country to every little home village. it'll happen. whether or not CCP survives depends on how well they can cover it up and/or redirect blame to foreigners.

>> No.18291723

>>18291678
Not an expert, but buying individual bonds is just stupid unless you're an expert in evaluating future interest rates, and bond trusts don't tend to do any better than the stock market average which, right now, can be gamed much more easily.
Bonds are great for autopilot tax-free retirement accounts since they're guaranteed and get better value the longer you put them off, but crap for mid-short term investment unless you're a hyperboomer. Might as well just put cash-in-bank.

>> No.18291739

>>18291602
being celtic and unironically shilling tao, you are ngmi

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>>18291713
But the divvy was cut so far its hardly relevant, and the whole sector is in serious danger.

I got out of QYLD too, it shouldn’t preform all that well in volatile times, and the market keeps making exaggerated moves, presumably due in part to algos.

>>18291618
Time wasn’t too harsh for her, all things considered. Too bad conventions are probably going to disappear for a very long time.

>> No.18291759

Two things I learned:
Options suck
DCA is king

>> No.18291777

>>18291759
Redpill me on DCA
Worthwhile for someone just tossing a few hundred in savings into the market/month, or should I continue to just bargain snipe and long hold?

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>>18291739
>limiting your self to ones ancestors beliefs
Kek imagine how many societies would fail if they didn’t get with the times. If the European cultures had stuck with Roman numerals and never moved to the Arabic numerals they would have had trouble getting to be societies with widespread basic arithmetic knowledge and becoming engineering powerhouses.

>> No.18291787

>>18291657
Bond ETFs are a good place to store your dry powder imo.

>> No.18291795

>>18291777
Set up a monthly auto deposit into some fund(s) you like and forget it. Now is literally the best time ever to start.

>> No.18291800

>>18291759
Anon, options are one of the best DCA tools you can get.

>> No.18291807

>>18291753
QYLD is something I bought when I first started last fall, and mostly for a monthly dividend. NRZ and NLY legitimately have me worried. Part of me thinks I should divert that into food stocks for the interim, since they'll pump more and more and at least help me tread water. Maybe buy back into those once some stability has been seen from those two specific REITs

>> No.18291812

>>18291777
Also read this
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/dollarcostaveraging.asp

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18291815

Give me a good trap doujinshi

>> No.18291820

>>18291795
>auto deposit
Only if you can’t be fucked to watch the market for generational opportunities like the corona crash. Otherwise you can just do it yourself when the market goes red.

>> No.18291836

>>18291820
Yea, so literally right now is the best time ever! Why the fuck would you wait for the next crash after this?

>> No.18291838

>>18290686
I just listen to what random anons from /biz/ tells me to buy.

>> No.18291839

>>18291815
That one with the brown succubus

>> No.18291843

>>18291815
anything by inariya

>> No.18291844

>>18291753
>Time wasn’t too harsh for her, all things considered. Too bad conventions are probably going to disappear for a very long time.
no idea what you're talking about, something with the chick in my image i assume?

>> No.18291866

>>18291612
>>18291495
Mossberg 500s are plentiful, just buy directly from whichever gun stores are open. It's illegal for counties to shut them down.
But you have to wait 10 days after purchasing one to take it home, so obviously you don't want to fuck around with waiting on an online order on top of the 10 day waiting period.
Buy #4 buckshot and #00 buckshot. #4 so you're less likely to kill innocent neighbors and #00 if you're in really deep shit.
If money is no object get a decent pistol, a CA legal ar-15, and a 9mm carbine.

>> No.18291868

>>18291739
>ngmi
I already have.

Each one of your posts makes you look more stupid than the last.

Get over yourself if you want to see your life improve.

>> No.18291871

>>18291812
>>18291795
But are the returns really going to be better than grabbing up crashed bargains and waiting a year or two for the market to swing back?
I'm not convinced, and I've got assured job security and growth for at least the next 3 years thanks to being a .mil, so I feel like bargain hunting with pocket change might be worth risking a handful of crashes.

>> No.18291876

>>18291838
based and redpilled

>> No.18291880
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>>18291815
>tfw it's super hard to find actual trap porn because faggots keep using the word incorrectly

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>>18291807
I got out of NRZ a while back. Actually had a standing order that bought back in but I managed to get out again without losing too much or wasting a daytrade.

I don’t want to be in REITs right now. Maybe something like American tower or a data center reit, but hell no to everything else, and I don’t even know enough about that one.

I’ve been shilling for El-Erian a lot lately, but I think he’s right. Only high quality companies with solid balance sheets for now. Now is not a good time to speculate on anything that might get margin called or run out of cash or get totally fucked if the corona shutdown goes on indefinitely. No one knows the future, don’t take on too much risk right now.

>>18291815
There’s only one good trap manga ever, and it’s futanari no elf

>> No.18291885

>>18291781
based common-sense poster

>> No.18291894

>>18291868
I

TYPE

LIKE

THIS

GIVE

ME

SHITTIT

GOLD

UPVOTES

PLS

>> No.18291902

>>18291886
But that isn't porn nor is it traps

>> No.18291907
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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid19-workplaces-close-april-one-month-12606684
This is good for the market

>> No.18291913

>>18291713
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/04/coronavirus-retail-is-used-to-existential-crises-but-bankruptcies-wont-save-it-now.html
Be very careful with these REITs, what are their main holdings?

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>> No.18291916

>>18291902
Maybe due to a technicality, but it’s basically both.

>> No.18291917

>>18291880
tomgirl, otoko no no, you can also use - symbol before tags to exclude on the panda.

>> No.18291922

>>18291659
real numbers are priced in, hedge funds are monitoring the mass graves with real time satellite data

>> No.18291925
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18291925

Here you go boys, for the the post-market Monday thread. I have a lot of images prepped, I hope once all the zoomers and permabulls get liquidated they fuck off back to r*ddit.

>> No.18291928

>>18291916
If there isn't any coom in it, it isn't porn.

>> No.18291941

>>18291871
Did you do the math? Other people already did. We are already in the crash! Why would you wait for ANOTHER crash? Don't even think about timing the bottom because the market will always fuck you. Just make two accounts, one you do monthly deposits and never touch, and another you to play the market if you really want to.

>> No.18291942

>>18291925
I miss comfy late night /smg/, too many people that don't know what they're talking about or obsessed about politics

>> No.18291945

>>18291907
>Wet markets
Wew lad

>> No.18291954

>>18291907
where ist getting your hair cut systemically relevant / essential?

>> No.18291957

>>18291358
RBC but beware they have high commissions. They don't let you write degenerate naked options though

>> No.18291961

>>18291886
If you are willing to accept 20+% drawdown, sure strong balance sheet will help. But valuations are still 30% above historical average

>> No.18291968

>>18291913
...a lot of shit currently shut down due to Corona Chan :(

This is one of those times where the pros say "cut your losses" isn't it?

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>>18291922
That’s probably true.

In January they had replaced stock charts and graphs of macroeconomic data with studies on epidemiology and were interviewing experts and consulting with former CDC officials.

>>18291925
Cute but aqua a shit and darky is much better. Even wiz is better than aqua.

>>18291942
Yes yes yes

>> No.18291978

>>18291925
>margin-call
keked

>> No.18291980

>>18291941
>one you do monthly deposits and never touch, and another you to play the market if you really want to.
If I was putting enough money into the market each month to afford this I wouldn't be splitting hairs about which approach makes better returns, anon.

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>>18291917
ACTUAL TRAP PORN

>> No.18292008

>>18291980
Being flippant with money is a fast way to lose it my dude.

>> No.18292009

The only airline stock I have is JBLU and its not much but for some reason its the one I am most worried about. I don't want JBLU going down since that would imply Delta or Southwest gets more market share and fuck taking either of those airlines jesus

>> No.18292018

>>18292003
this man wants to fuck spikes
lol

>> No.18292025

>>18292009
Regional airlines are the safest. International travel will suffer the most. I plan on buying JBLU, HA, and ALK soon. Not a fan of LUV though

>> No.18292028

>>18291127

down

>> No.18292034

>>18291110
>ETF sell costs the same as stocks
Well shit, it's even worse than I thought. Even trading ETFs becomes prohibitive at this point (you need to limit yourself to very few picks for them to be worth it, you get buttfucked if it doesn't go in the direction you expect, and you need tons of money invested or to wait almost a year before any kind of trade)

>> No.18292056

>>18291942
Isn't it movie night tonight?

>> No.18292060

>>18292008
>trying to optimize returns on the small monthly investments I make = being flippant with money
You what
All I'm saying is I see crashed bargains doing better as holds than any given index fund based on the market average. I see the value of doing an autopilot fund, but it feels like there's better options even for nominal investors since we're in such a bear market right now. If a few bargains end up bottoming out then I lose some throwaway cash at the end of the month; but if I'm acceptably diversified that should cover the risk, no?

If I'm completely off base then I'd love to hear it, but I'd like to hear why. Why is the market average a better long hold than diversified bargains?

>> No.18292064

>>18291880
>look up
>fall into the hole
what?

>> No.18292070
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>>18291968
This is one of those times where most experts say you can’t time the bottom and some experts say you can’t afford to own anything that could go bankrupt.

>>18291961
Shut up about valuations already, They’re not a good tool for picking a time to invest.

I am expecting a retest and possibly even a spy ~200, but I’m not going to use valuations to help me decide when to deploy cash.

More useful things to watch out for are retail investors finally giving up and getting out of the market, big investors making big deals to scoop up dying companies, and on a TA front, even though it doesn’t help the exact bottom, a bullish breadth thrust and a golden cross.

>>18292025
>when buffet just sold
>before a government mandated shutdown of commercial domestic air travel
Don’t be a hero.
Much safer buying buffett and seeing if he scoops one of them up to be part of the Berkshire empire. I’m expecting desperate mergers and they’ll be approved by a desperate SEC.

>> No.18292078

>>18292025
Aren't regionals more prone to sell off chunks of their fleet to cover debts incurred by travel restriction? I'm going in on AAL because of the value of their fleet more than anything.

>> No.18292086

>>18292064
do you know what a trap is?

>> No.18292089

>>18292086
most people in the interweb know

>> No.18292095

>>18291868
>I already have.
no you tao reading weeb, you have not

>> No.18292098

>>18292078
Your post makes no sense. Regional airlines have the best balance sheets right now. AAL has been drowning in debt since it went public.

>> No.18292116

>>18292060
Funds are ALSO on sale. You can go look at the thousands of funds out there and pick one that has the stocks you like. Then you just buy one or two of those and you will make tons of money. You also don't have to put it in a fund, you can just put it into ETFs or a stock (but your broker might not let you auto buy those so you would have to manually do it).

>> No.18292127

>>18292089
an actual trap. not the transvestite reference that's not even used correctly anymore (if it's clearly obvious it's a guy it's not a "trap", it's not a trap if the dick is right there or if you aren't trying to fool anyone). >>18292064 was confused over why it said to look up in >>18291880

>> No.18292143

>>18292060
Not him, but I have my own approach. I believe trend following with leverage provides the best returns for its simplicity. And I lump sum, because it provides better returns than dollar cost averaging.

>> No.18292149

>>18291925
based
>>18291907
>wet markets
hahaha holy shit
>>18291579
amd trades like a shitcoin and i love it

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>>18290908
oh shit

>> No.18292192

>>18290908
big down

>> No.18292198

>>18291358
Looks to me like literally everything sucks ass. Maybe interactive brokers can work? $0.01 per share, minimum $1, maximum 0.5% of trade value. Better than questrade for any trade less than 50 shares, and still better if the total value is less than $990, but worse or equal in any other case.
Or you have to use wealthsimple's pitifully limited accounts and limit yourself to shitty canadian stocks, and only a fraction of them.
It seems like national bank direct brokerage has true $0 US and canadian ETFs, never tried or really looked into them and no information can be found from outside except a few references here and there. If someone has more info, that would be cool.
Questrade is the last option but $5-$10 per ETF sell (free to buy though).

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>>18291954
Long hair = lice = disease? That's my only guess. All the barbers here are shut down and I'm waiting on a pair of clippers to just buzz myself kek.

>> No.18292214

>>18290225
That was a good doujin.

>> No.18292223

>>18290908
>>18290908
i find it interesting two large well known hedge fund managers, have shorted TSLA. One covered earlier this year(didnt make much if any), and one still is keeping his short on.

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45 minutes to movie night! Tonight's feature is... I'm not sure since google drive somehow identified my pirated copy of Escape from NY (1981) and won't play it >_<
I'll find something don't worry

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>>18291871
Pic related. I wish I went all in in 2008. The market is moving so fast that day's are weeks or months.

>> No.18292297

>>18292275
Plenty of people went all in during the 2008 crash, capitulated, because the market went down another 30% after they bought in. "The bottom" was a single day on a 300 day bear market.

>> No.18292311

>>18291907
>wet markets
Is this a joke edit?

>> No.18292329

>>18291894
Actually it's how everybody with a white collar job types.

>>18292095
You already got btfo by multiple posters.

>> No.18292330

>>18292311
Unironically, some asians think criticizing wet markets is racist towards their culture. Based Fauci has been calling them out today

>> No.18292336

>>18290486
Defense contractor companies are literally institutionalized welfare

>> No.18292337

>>18292297
My margin is wet and ready for the next %30 drop

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>>18292330
>>18291945
>>18292149
>>18292311
There's literally nothing wrong with wet markets.

>> No.18292342

>>18292297
And thats why DCA is king.

>> No.18292349

>>18292339
okay chang

>> No.18292357

>>18292329
you are actually a schitzo go back, i am sure they all read the tao where you are from

>> No.18292370

>>18292342
>>18292297
>not having nerves of steel

>> No.18292373

>>18292342
DCAing to enter a position near a "bottom" is king. DCAing on the way up cucks your gains and increases your losses in crashes.

>> No.18292386

>>18292339
>eating bugs
No thanks

>> No.18292392

>>18292373
The point of DCA is that you can't time when its going down, when its at the bottom, or when its going back up.

>> No.18292401

>>18292373
As long as the price is below your cost basis, DCA works on the way up.

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>>18292392
>"YOOOOOOOU CAN'T TIME THE MARKET!"
Tell that to the DCA cucks that dollarcost averaged up over the past 5 years and had everything wiped out

>> No.18292416

>>18292410
>>18292410
>>18292410
new

>> No.18292419
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18292419

Hey! I have a question about options trading/positions.

I have four contracts on USO calls currently which are way way way up - oil will probably crash again on market open for Monday, right?

Working off of that theory - how likely am I to be able to sell my calls if I place an order for execution @ market open?
I'd like to rebuy more at a lower price (or, if I was smart and understood hedges, do both that and buy puts before the price spikes on them).

How likely is it for my order to fill?

>> No.18292425

>>18292408
Sorry but I'm not going to sit in cash for 5 years at a time in my retirement account

>> No.18292447

>>18292408
Ok so what should they have done with their money? Sit in a savings account? They would still be up 10% if they didn't pick shitty stocks.

>> No.18292485

>>18292357
>so retarded you can't follow the comment chain
I think we're into minus IQ points at this stage.

I'm curious to know where you're from and if you're of average intelligence or outside the mean?

>> No.18292506

Does DTO/SCO short the global crude oil price or US oil price?

>> No.18293073

>>18291800
He still doesn't understand them. That's why he thinks they suck. After losing with them a few times in a row, it's easy to think they're just a slot machine.