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We are going to brutalize this economy

>> No.18548094
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18548094

>>18548084

Shut up, you stupid, racist piece of shit.

>> No.18548106

>>18548084

They are already going full force with the back to work talk. We'll all be marched back into work to get bat aids in 3 or 4 weeks.

>> No.18548109

>>18548084
give me money!
give me money!
give me money!

>> No.18548110

>>18548084
You don't understand. It will not be necessary. This whole pandemic was a sham. Look at the data released by gov CDC yesterday... less than average death rate all causes. 90% of 2019.
This whole thing is a fluke blown up to be an artificial and forced economic shut down.... WHY and to what cause? We will find out out one way or the other

>> No.18548115

Right? Instead we should spend those hundreds of billions into weapons and military endeavors. Or better yet, we should keep them aside to bail out billion dollar companies.

Of course when it comes to regular people, there’s no way we can get the type of money. We just don’t have it.

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>NOOOOO!!!!!!!! YOU CAN'T JUST PRINT MONEY YOUR OWN CITIZENS INSTEAD OF ISRAEL!!!!! THINK OF THE INFLATION!!!

>> No.18548126

>spend trillions of dollars bailing out big business
. . . . .
>give money to citizens
NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST SPEND MONEY LIKE THATTTT THINK OK THE REPERCUSSIONSSSS

>> No.18548127
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>>18548084
no shit, but dont ask too many questions or else the great BRRRRR will get you

>> No.18548128

>>18548115
This, but unironically

>> No.18548133

>>18548115
Are you really that idiotic? Without US military power the world would have went a whole different way altogether. In fat the sheer threat and power of the US military saves half the world from being a shithole. THE mere THREAT. You can't be as retarded as not to know that anon?

>> No.18548138

>>18548084
>2000 for literally everyone
>EXCEPT DEPENDENTS
fucking why? just give me some money

>> No.18548140

>>18548110
And by then the fuckers behind this will be long done laughing all the way to the bank

>> No.18548146

>>18548133
Who gives a shit about the rest of the motherfucking world

>> No.18548149

>>18548084
>yang gang $1000/month!
>REEEEEEE THAT'S RETARDED

>trumpbux $2000/month
>YAY TRUMPBUX!

>> No.18548153

>>18548115

No, the reason is because you are adding 4 - 8 trillion dollars to your supply, in less than 6 months.

Basic economics.

You can't print money forever, and avoid the problem. Don't people get this?

>> No.18548166

>>18548110
>WHY and to what cause?

Transfer of tax payer funds to corporations

>> No.18548174

>>18548126

Can't wait till a loaf of bread costs $50

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>>18548084

*clears throat*
Ahem

BUY FUCKING PRECIOUS METALS

>> No.18548182

>>18548133
I know right? How would the world be without the US being in war every year of its existence? Imagine if the US wasn’t behind the hundreds of coup detats, uprisings and uprooting of legitimate governments all over the world?! Geez Sean, imagine

You really have no idea how much the world dislikes us

>> No.18548189

>>18548174
Can't wait for big businesses to fail first

>> No.18548200

>>18548153
The pandemic is ending - these payments would be temporary. $2,000 for every unemployed low income American is trillions of dollars

>> No.18548202

>>18548140
You must differentiate the FED/Wallstreet system from the actual US government and military. It is not quite the same. Although they are interacting of course.

>> No.18548211

>>18548153
Most money isn't even printed, and afaik the whole stimulus package thing is redistributed "debt" we all have to get into after the chinese slave economy eventually collapses.

>> No.18548213

>>18548110
We doubled in the first 2 weeks of post-CDC report.
That's how exponential growth works.

now imagine 50 states in varying degrees of doubt having an exponential growth of infection.

>> No.18548216

What will happen to EUR/DOL? Will the US become the new Thailand for Europeans?

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>>18548110
as iv said

>> No.18548225

>>18548200

When people re-intergrate theres going to be another freakout, especially since there will be millions of people with weakened immune systems, from lack of vitamin c and etc.

We will be dealing with this for a large amount of time, the government is just panicking

>> No.18548237

>>18548216
Looking forward to becoming a ladyboy to pull those sweet sex tourist Euros

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>>18548084
>>18548094
>>18548115
>>18548121
>>18548126
>What you don't like the stimulus?
>I bet you like corporate welfare HAHAHA CHECKMATE
Fuck you hacks, atleast get good arguments

>> No.18548254

>>18548182
> You really have no idea how much the world dislikes us

Which is why I am saying this as a European. Some of are not blinded. And we damn well know what the actual power leverages are.

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>>18548200

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>Fuck you hacks, atleast get good arguments

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>>18548263
>>Fuck you hacks, atleast get good arguments

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I WANT MY $2000 TRUMPBUX NOW!

>> No.18548273

>>18548138

The proposed bill would include dependents

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>>18548237
Thats a man

>> No.18548304

>>18548153
I get the logic behind this but most money is created by a computer, look up fractional reserve lending.

>> No.18548308

>>18548273
No it doesn’t

>> No.18548320

>>18548200
>The pandemic is ending
even if the vaccine is """close""" to being mass produced, it's not possible for everyone who is infected to get treated and there will still be people who are carrying it. As soon as the curfew ends it's going to explode again. We are just trying to delay to buy as much time as possible.

>> No.18548319

>>18548084
Fucking socialists, absolutely disgusting

>> No.18548331

>>18548166
No, I think the cause will have to be seen. That this world economic shut down was fishy is quite clear I think. But to what end, to what effect? There are thousands of conspiracy theories, spare me.
I think n the end they tested out if people are still as easily controlled as they used to be. And they found out : yes
Which leaves a lot of future options.

>> No.18548341

>>18548153
The dollar is deflating right now so more needs to be printed. The Fed doesn't care where the new money goes.

>> No.18548371

And in the end the man with the biggest gun and the biggest cage wins. Which in our case, clearly is the US. China being a close competitor. Meaning that US will decide what's in store now. And we will all have to follow. Or starve ultimately. Think about that. That and nothing else is what this shut down achieved.
Military power rules the world. Period.

>> No.18548377

>>18548153
>Basic economics.
If economics is real, why can't economists agree on the basic laws of economics?

>> No.18548424

>>18548377
>Why do people have different opinions on social issues?
That's basically what you asked, retard.

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>>18548084
good. fuck the economy. fuck blumpf. fuck biden. fuck bernie. fuck this whole fuckin country. just give me money, bitch.

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>>18548424
You're saying we should trust """"economics"""" as a fundamental law of the universe when the people who claim to be experts in its study can't even agree on its basic principles. In other words, it's just a bunch of bullshit opinions and should be disregarded. It is absolutely not a scientific field of study.

>> No.18548449

So no matter if id202 or chainlink or whatever else the fed convince trump to do, the world will have no choice now but to say ok, fine. I kid u not. That is what this was about. And people are now much more susceptible to it too! Because they can always tell us 'you had such a great community' and 'you were so brave together' during this crisis... This will be used by everyone now, who likes to CONTROL us. Including Greta :p

>> No.18548474

>>18548437
correct. economics used to be more of a philosophical field of study, until kikes took over and tried to dress it up as some kind of objective hard science.

>> No.18548488

>>18548084
We’re going to need it if we’re staying quarantined for much longer. Unemployment is still skyrocketing and most people live paycheck to paycheck. There isn’t much of an alternative.

>> No.18548494

>>18548084
MONEY PRINTER GO BRRRRRRR

>> No.18548497

>>18548115
>you can't disagree with both

>> No.18548505

So in the end, we can all just hope that the Americans will be wise and brave enough to steer this in the right direction.

>> No.18548508

>>18548174
I am very excite

>> No.18548509

>>18548331
How? A states rights thing? Governors trying to test their powers? It's been well known for a long time that the media be used as a tool too easily control people

>> No.18548511

>>18548437
>You're saying we should trust """"economics"""" as a fundamental law of the universe
No I didn't, I was just pointing out how retarded your question was. Obviously something political is going to be polarizing, no shit.
>In other words, it's just a bunch of bullshit opinions and should be disregarded
People that think they're above this shit are the worst, even if what you said is true some extent the way you present your points is gay as shit.

>> No.18548513

>>18548133
Imagine still being a neocon in 2020. I don’t think there’s a single ideology with a worse track record.

>> No.18548524

>>18548513
>I don’t think there’s a single ideology with a worse track record
In the US definitely

>> No.18548536

>>18548509
Yes, the media did work hand in hand with all governments on this though, which is unusual in and of itself. IYou know what gives every human being this weird feeling right now? We don't know what's coming but we sense something is coming.

>> No.18548542

>>18548320
Yep.

>> No.18548554

>>18548513
It isn't an ideology, it is a brutal fucking fact! I am again, speaking as a European. If even I know it is a fucking fact, you should too as an American. No matter what the markets do, no matter what anyone does, in the end, the biggest power has the say.

>> No.18548564

>>18548084
this is why you buy metals NOW while dollars are worth a damn

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>>18548084
> $2K × 300M Americans = $6B per month
> $6B × 12 months = $72B/year
OP, I'm afraid to tell you that these are drops in the bucket.

>> No.18548622

The British Empire didn't rule the world by caressing them you know? Brutal facts that always hold true. No matter what the modern world has you believe. So again, no matter what the markets do, what else happens, the guys who can say: if you don't do as we say we kill u all, will have the say, during any war, during any crisis. Facts. And in this case... USA, what's coming?

>> No.18548632

>>18548590
Your math is off I got 7.2 trillion a year

>> No.18548637

>>18548084
>$2,000 a month for every american is not sustainable
China is going to pay for it.

>> No.18548645

>>18548590
But it's going to poor people and niggers. VERY ANTISEMITIC!

>> No.18548647

>>18548259
That's fucking it? We're not even going to sniff 100k dead. Zero people of import dead, the rare 30-something healthy person rolled a 1 on the ol D100 and dies, while the rest have one foot in the grave already. This quarantine is lame as shit. This was par for the course 100 years ago, but all age groups got rekt, particularly children. Now we shut everyone inside for something that by and large is only a threat to the already compromised. Someone get me off this ride.

>> No.18548651

>>18548590
your math is way off. and it should be more like 400m americans receiving 2k per month.

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https://thefed.app/apply

>> No.18548666

>>18548084
Has it even passed?

>> No.18548675

>>18548084
That bill is not going to pass. It's just a proposal by the progressive wing of the House Democrats.

>> No.18548685

>>18548666
No. Pelosi won't back it, let alone the Republicans.

>> No.18548694

>>18548666
It’s not even being actively debated

>> No.18548709

>>18548590
/biz on math. You lost two zeros in the first equation.

>> No.18548718

>>18548685
>>18548694
Then why the hooplah, 2 grand a month is crazy. Assuming some conditions the 1,200 a month is more in line but even the one off has already changed things.

>> No.18548744

>>18548718
There is no hooplah. Someone decided to post a thread on 4chan while being misinformed. Hard to imagine, I know.

>> No.18548801

>>18548709
That is not a /biz/ guy

>> No.18548949

>>18548536
>We don't know what's coming but we sense something is coming.
unfortunately yes

>> No.18549004

>>18548718
I don't think it'll pass because the Trump admin is trying to open the country back up and has been preaching that on Twitter for a while now. He's gonna do that instead since his base is on the reopening side.

>> No.18549244

>>18548133
No need to fire a shot at America when you can just buy and subvert their politicians. That shit is far cheaper than waging any kind of war.

>> No.18549267

>>18549244
That was not firing a shot at America.That was telling people the facts.

>> No.18549353

>>18548084
I make more than that staking my ARPA on Binance at just a 4% APR....YEARLY. How poor are you anon.

>> No.18549465

>>18549353
I am a multi millionaire friend, but it all can be worth nothing in a second... depending on what the US, the Fed, and accordingly the ECB decide to to.

Meaning cash is shit. Get assets now. Be it stocks, crypto or real estate

>> No.18549484

>>18548449
>>18549465
BASED

>> No.18549554

>>18548106
The fed knows this isn’t sustainable. They have no options. Personally, I believe the Feds don’t even know what’s going to happen if the economy crashes any harder. They seem to be ready for the worst though. Say goodbye to your rights if too many go without food for more than 3 days. People can be just as volatile as the markets

>> No.18549729

>>18549554
>The fed knows this isn’t sustainable.

Let me correct you. They know the opposite. They know it is sustainable as long as they want to. While giving people less and les interest on their lans. ffs, am I he only one thinking here?

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>> No.18549802

Listen Trump may not like the person heading the FED, but he LIKES the fed, it made him who he is! King of debt that he is. SO from Trump you must expect nothing less.... but what do we have to expect outside the US? USD or CryproUSD, give us some fucking info NSA

>> No.18549806

>>18548110
we are far from done with this but overall death rate can indeed fall in a lockdown

>> No.18549819

>>18549806
Well thank you, I know, and what else?

>> No.18549821

>>18548181
>*clears throat*
>Ahem
>BUY FUCKING PRECIOUS METALS
>AND PNK

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>> No.18549843

>>18549806
In the end, you are done Bill. YOU ARE DONE. YOU TRIED. FUCK YOU kiss :*

>> No.18549856

>>18549834

Nice hypno. Add some sissy butt & black cock and it will be perfect.

>> No.18549880

>>18549244
this. china controls our democrat party

>> No.18549882

>>18549843
basically you get the real infection rate by multiplying the official number by 60. we need to get 6 billion infected and recovered for this to be over and have about 120 million infected actual.

>> No.18549883

>>18548153
sure you can, people are hoarding the money and people know they like muhney

>> No.18549884

>>18549856
Noted. I'll get right to work on that

>> No.18549893

>>18548110
>less than average death rate
Yeah that's what happens when YOU LOCK EVERYONE DOWN AND THE STREETS ARE FLOODED WITH POLICE. What the fuck would people even die from in a world like this

>> No.18549903

>>18548133
It has absolutely nothing to do with your shitty military. What can it do if, say, France decides to kick US military out? Declare war on France? It'll do nothing. The THREAT is as pointless as the nuclear threat.

>> No.18549919

>>18548110
nope. see https://www.euromomo.eu/outputs/zscore_country_total.html
raw data doesn't lie.

>> No.18550205

>>18548590
Buddy, it would cost 750 BILLION per month.

>> No.18550221

>>18548554
Agreed. Case in point Germany's domination and influence over EU. On the global stage still nothing to the US power and influence.

>> No.18550224

>>18549903
>What can it do if, say, France decides to kick US military out? Declare war on France? It'll do nothing.

Impose economic sanctions, and kick all French troops out of the US (they are quite a few here)

>> No.18550527

>>18548651
>400m americans
"americans"
thinking of flying to the states and getting trumpbux myself.

>> No.18550579

>>18548106
It's hilarious. The only actual time to end the lockdown/quarantine is a few weeks after the vaccine has been released. Otherwise, you're just undermining everything.

>> No.18550593

>>18549554
Of course it's sustainable. We are the most powerful nation on earth and if any market discounts the USD or credit rating of the nation, they get nuked.

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>>18550579
>muh vaccine
There is no coronavirus you dumb fuck. The vaccine will probably kill you. The deaths reported as coronavirus deaths = the more money hospitals get from insurance companies. Also, the tests they give you for coronavirus have an 80% false positive rate. Kys.

>> No.18551291

>>18548084
who gives a fuck? Print that shit and put it in my bank account.

>> No.18551347

Hello noob here
As seen that the money printer goes on and on brrrrr brrrrr brrrr when we could see gold to 10'000 usd?

>> No.18551358

>>18548084
https://youtu.be/P4_1pwsm5LY?t=1310

>> No.18551372

>>18549554
>believe the Feds don’t even know what’s going to happen if the economy crashes any harder
they will print more money..simple as that. Then after election: ''gold standars''
and gold to 10k
and silver chad will laugh

>> No.18552128

>>18550787
All of this is true except the 'there is no corona' part. There is corona, but it's quite literally unironically just the flu bro.

>> No.18552279

>>18548637
If the TPP passed they would be, but at the same time $2000 would be worth a lot less.

>> No.18552310

>>18548115
I agree with you. But at the same time, something something velocity of money and artificial scarcity of dollars in the bottom half of the country allows the current dollars value to exist

>> No.18552323

>>18548133
This but unironically

>> No.18552326

>>18550787
>>18552128

autism

>> No.18552347

>>18548121
based

>> No.18552520

>>18550205
Who cares its all fake fucking bullshit money anyway. Its so fake I am framing my trump bucks and not cashing it. I want something on my wall to remind me how the government actually thought they could print their way out of a virus. Total clown show

>> No.18552554

>>18548181
>BUY PRECIOUS METALS
>>18549834
>BUY CRYPTO
WELL WHICH IS IT

>> No.18552598
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>>18548174
this but unironically

>> No.18552607

>>18548121
This

>> No.18552612

>x is not sustainable because I say so

>> No.18552616

>>18548174
this
>>18548121
Freaking this

>> No.18552709

>>18548110
You're right that the virus is fucking nothing and has a real mortality rate in line with the seasonal flu. However, that doesn't actually matter; the economy has still been suspended and that's what's causing the real damage. We're still getting a Happening, just not the one people expected

>> No.18552759

>>18552709
Of course.

>> No.18552832

>>18549554
>believe the Feds don’t even know what’s going to happen if the economy crashes any harder
they will print more money..simple as that. Then after election: ''gold standars''
and gold to 10k
and silver chad will laugh

>> No.18552870

Thread summary:
Wagies and goyim are angry as fuck that us based NEETS will get additional funding. The end.

>> No.18553217

>>18552554
bolth

>> No.18553333

>>18549267
You have poor reading comprehension.

>> No.18553401

>>18553333
Checked. And no, I understood just fine.