/smg/ - Stock Market General

[Anonymous No.18904989]

back to normal

>Brokers
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>Live Bloomberg Stream
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>Educational Sites
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>Free Charts
http://www.tradingview.com
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>Screeners
https://finviz.com/
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>Pre-Market Data and Live Data
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https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar
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>Boomer Investing 101
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) Calculator
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

>List of hedge fund holdings
https://fintel.io/

>Misc
https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor
https://market24hclock.com/

>>18903528

[Anonymous No.18905010]

I can just sense them PFIZER dividends flowing into my pockets

[Anonymous No.18905014]

Reminder that fundamental don't matter anymore

[Anonymous No.18905018]

Fuck tripfags.

[Anonymous No.18905023]

>>18904989
Fuck you guys for making me fall for the FRO meme.

[Anonymous No.18905021]

RDSb is a menace

[Anonymous No.18905025]

>muh unemployment numbers

[Anonymous No.18905033]

reminder that bobos are the most powerful traders in the world
bobos ww@

[Anonymous No.18905034]

DHT freefall

[Anonymous No.18905035]

>DIS
The mouse is fucking invincible
>volume already dead
Reminder that when the bell rings, most of the trading is already done until end of day now.

[Anonymous No.18905038]

>>18905023
dht crashing too, lmao

[Anonymous No.18905041]

>>18902376
Fuck this gay ass clown market. CVS had killer results and it's barely moving.

[Anonymous No.18905043]

BULLBROS WHAT HAPPENED
YOU TOLD ME TO BUY IN
I'M FINANCIALLY RUINED
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.18905054]

>>18905033

Buncha Debbie downer broke fags

[Anonymous No.18905057]

PRINT MORE JEROME DAMMIT

[Anonymous No.18905061]

>>18905035
fucking vibranium mouse man

[Anonymous No.18905066]

I got fucked today, biz... and not in a good way...

[Anonymous No.18905071]

Last chance. Accumulate DAL right now.

[Anonymous No.18905073]

What stocks would you guys like to buy if there is a crash? for a long term investment.

[Anonymous No.18905075]

>>18905043
lmao dont get scared

trump economy is stronger than left wingers claim trust me

[Anonymous No.18905079]

>>18905066
again?

[Anonymous No.18905091]

>>18905023
>he trusted biz
me too anon, fuck this shit

[Anonymous No.18905093]

>>18905075
Big sell signal

[Anonymous No.18905097]

>>18905043
brother don't worry, line goes up, the fire rises

[Anonymous No.18905099]

>>18905073
imagine buying and holding
lmao

[Anonymous No.18905102]

>oil starting to go down
>more saudi oil on its way
>DHT had great earnings and conference
>DHT still down
holy fuck the boomers and algos that run this market are absolute fucking retards good god I hope they all die of the worst possible case of corona that causes their hearts to explode this clown market makes no fucking sense at all fuck it all

[Anonymous No.18905106]

>>18904910
they don't. listen to the most recent press conference. Powell only gives a damn about "functioning markets" he only cares that credit lines stay open and that corps who are "creditworthy" can continue to raise money, and people can buy and sell the debt. In effect, yes, this more or less keeps up the bubble. The prices of equities are only up because people think the debt horse and pony show will go on. In all likelihood, it will, just not to the same extent. The music will stop for many zombie corps that will be raped when the credit markets tighten and they will be unable to pay back debts with higher rates.

[Anonymous No.18905104]

DHT on a one way trip to $5

[Anonymous No.18905105]

>morning dump

last chance to get into MVIS

[Anonymous No.18905107]

Gonna load up on dht

[Anonymous No.18905109]

>tankers
Good call guys

[Anonymous No.18905110]

DOOMP EET

[Anonymous No.18905122]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA or OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO? What even is real anymore? Fuck this meme market

[Anonymous No.18905129]

>Abe surprise shuts down Japan until May 31st two days ago
>Nikkei and JPNL up two days in a row
Boring low volume dead cat bounce. Will be back at lunch and close just in case WWIII starts.

[Anonymous No.18905131]

>>18905071
B-but King Boomer sold!

[Anonymous No.18905132]

>>18905097
IT'S NOT FUCKING RISING
I'M DOWN 20K IN MINUTES
FUUUUUUUUUUUCK
THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY TO ME

[Anonymous No.18905134]

wanted dis at sub 100
will it ever happen or it the mouse simply too stronk?

[Anonymous No.18905147]

Lmao almost fell for that anime posting tanker shill the last few days, nice try hahahaha

[Anonymous No.18905148]

>>18904989
>Airbnb to lay off nearly 1,900 people, 25% of company
>Uber to lay off 3,700 employees, about 14% of workforce
>EU predicts region will contract 7.4% this year in worst economic shock since 1930s, while In February, the European Commission estimated a 1.4% rise in GDP for the EU this year. that's an increase of 6% in 3 months.
>ADP report complete disaster and predictions missed
Stock market still green. How long can this go on?

[Anonymous No.18905151]

Looking to jump back in. Currently 100% cash. Kohl's is looking good but surely we have more room to drop right

[Anonymous No.18905155]

WHAT THE FUCK
WHY DID I BUY TANKERS

[Anonymous No.18905160]

>>18905071
Why? The biggest airline in canada is about to be a penny stock

[Anonymous No.18905166]

Buncha assholes getting gaped today

[Anonymous No.18905171]

>NASDAQ closing in on February high
amazing. tech is king

[Anonymous No.18905174]

>>18905151
yes, undoubtedly.

[Anonymous No.18905178]

What is a good play right now? Just got out of ATVI with a little profit, but want more.

[Anonymous No.18905180]

>>18905122
losers shilling for crashing markets because they don't want trump 2020 to win
this will be one of the biggest bull runs ever
all the bad corona news already gone and almost nothing happend
obama will cry in tears


all in dow jones

[Anonymous No.18905183]

>>18905166
mostly tanker idiots

[Anonymous No.18905185]

>>18905155
you were just to greedy, do you thought oil will stay low forever?

[Anonymous No.18905190]

>>18905148

Don’t post fake news here

[Anonymous No.18905192]

how do I see real time stock tickers like RH has?

[Anonymous No.18905196]

>>18905148
yo fuck Air BnB

[Anonymous No.18905199]

Crabbing stocks.

[Anonymous No.18905200]

>>18905155
That's why you dont listen to anime posters

[Anonymous No.18905201]

>>18905155
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA.
He fell for it.

[Anonymous No.18905219]

>>18905178
There is no good play
nothing is making sense in this fucking market

[Anonymous No.18905221]

>>18905190
What is fake news? Please be more specific to fuck you up retard.

[Anonymous No.18905225]

>>18905201
What are tankerbros end game? They think oil is going to drop again and their holdings will go up?

[Anonymous No.18905226]

>>18905148
You aren’t supposed to take the numbers too seriously because it’s artificial contraction. If the virus wasn’t here economically everything would be the same.

[Anonymous No.18905231]

>>18905155
should I buy tankers now

[Anonymous No.18905235]

Why yes I did buy SOXL at 119 during the dip yesterday how could you tell

[Anonymous No.18905243]

WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS MEAN

[Anonymous No.18905245]

>>18905219

This. Office Depot was doom and gloom yesterday at like 1.80 2 dollat calls were dirt cheap. Today it moons to 2.20+

[Anonymous No.18905249]

>>18905225
no fucking idea

[Anonymous No.18905255]

>me as an oil chad when I see the tanker unemployment numbers

[Anonymous No.18905260]

>>18905231
Please buy NAT, the weight of the bags is fucking killing me

[Anonymous No.18905267]

>>18905243
Literally nothing

[Anonymous No.18905270]

Buffet was right

[Anonymous No.18905271]

>>18905225
>What are tankerbros end game? They think oil is going to drop again and their holdings will go up?
No.
That on the fucking best year of operations the stock price at least stays the same as it was before the Corona.

It's not much to ask...

[Anonymous No.18905273]

>>18905225
Buy high sell low

[Anonymous No.18905281]

>>18905243
dumpies

[Anonymous No.18905283]

>>18905151
he thinks departments are going to reopen, wew

[Anonymous No.18905285]

owww the pinch /biz/bros...
it hurts...

[Anonymous No.18905290]

Lol what was that drop

[Anonymous No.18905292]

Uhhhhhh what the FUCK was that?

[Anonymous No.18905299]

>>18905270
Finally. Fuck BA.

[Anonymous No.18905308]

>>18905243
The deserved dump after this shit news today? lol

>>18905226
I hope you don't believe your own words.

[Anonymous No.18905311]

SP500 CLOSING IN ON RED ZONE

[Anonymous No.18905314]

Does biz recommend I take some of these profits now? Or just hodl till expiry?
Also, should I put more cash in to execute them or just sell them?

[Anonymous No.18905318]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NO FRO NO SAVE ME MVIS SAVE ME EMAN PLEASE I BELIEVED IN YOU

[Anonymous No.18905319]

Puts on airlines?

[Anonymous No.18905320]

>>18905271
I was holding dht assuming breaking their earnings would have some positive effect

[Anonymous No.18905321]

WTF WAS THAT

[Anonymous No.18905325]

>DHT 6% down

[Anonymous No.18905327]

You got on the bull run right?

[Anonymous No.18905329]

>>18905270
>Buffet dumps and his followers ride his decisions
Yeah if that's what you call being "right"

[Anonymous No.18905331]

Crab is king

[Anonymous No.18905332]

>>18905292
A fucking anime poster posting a way over the top reaction image.

[Anonymous No.18905335]

>>18905023
I'm just glad I only bought 5 shares.

[Anonymous No.18905336]

>>18905270
he caused it though lmao

[Anonymous No.18905339]

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[Anonymous No.18905340]

>NASDAQ tracks zoom almost exactly now
This piece of shit index. Please replace with Russell

[Anonymous No.18905342]

>>18905200
fuck the anime posters, I came to the same conclusion as they are, the difference is they shilled this shit on biz so hard that brought in retards with weak hand

[Anonymous No.18905343]

>>18905073

Ericsson

it's near ATH but that's mostly because their business is unaffected by Corona. They are accumulating contracts to sell 5g-equipment in China and the US and their earnings / dividens / P/E are looking to improve significantly over the next couple of years.

[Anonymous No.18905344]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.18905345]

>>18905171
FAANG stocks will surpass most mid-sized nation states in wealth and power, and eventually even large nations

FNGU holder will become the new hyperlite(hyper-elite)

[Anonymous No.18905348]

>>18905325
>two days in a row
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH TANKIES

[Anonymous No.18905350]

Just got stopped out of DHT, get ready for the tanker moon mission.

[Anonymous No.18905351]

>>18905314

Take your green and run fruity boy and be thankful for it there’s guys losing their asses

[Anonymous No.18905360]

>>18905329
Sounds like they were indeed right

[Anonymous No.18905361]

>>18905271
>That on the fucking best year of operations the stock price at least stays the same as it was before the Corona.
But it was all just speculative money going in there and such a short spike.

[Anonymous No.18905366]

>>18905180

Why, yes, sometimes retards and imbeciles (trump supporters) could win in a short run.

However, the collapse of bullshit policies is inevitable in the medium term. Opening up economy will cause a second wave of corona.

This is an election year, so everything will go, endless brrrrr, etc. But even endless brrr cannot change biology or demand-based economics.

You will lose, faggot.

[Baggie !!2wgod7RQeJh No.18905369]

>>18905226
I hope you get one of those special kinds of concussions that makes you more intelligent.

[Anonymous No.18905370]

>>18905290
>>18905292
Just closing the 15M opening gap.

[Anonymous No.18905371]

I’m hoping for a red day for more cheapies, but there’s 0 chance SPY goes below 280 today

[Anonymous No.18905374]

WHERE MY HAL CHADS AT

[Anonymous No.18905375]

TVIX BROS LET'S GOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.18905378]

>I'm still green
>Didn't get shilled by animeposters to buy DHT at a high

[Anonymous No.18905379]

>TVIX
please make it stop
it's not funny anymore

[Anonymous No.18905380]

>>18905270
Im looking to Buy when they bottom out. Air Canada was 20 cents a share in 2010, then climbed to $55 a share in 2019
Think about those gains

[Anonymous No.18905384]

SFM is mooning for me, might have to set up some more grocery stores stocks

[Anonymous No.18905387]

Luckily my nustar position is counteracting my tanker play. Just sold all tanker stocks, fuck that meme.

[Anonymous No.18905391]

>>18905375
my nigga

[Anonymous No.18905393]

>>18905374
AAAAAAAAAAA WTF IS GOING ON

[Anonymous No.18905394]

>>18905343
Cool. I'll look into that. How do you determine what you'll pay for a stock? Like do you make a list and set prices that you'd buy at and then buy if it drops below that? Is there a calculation I can do to determine if a stock is undervalued?

[Anonymous No.18905406]

>>18905375
yes my brother

[Anonymous No.18905410]

>>18905361
What was the speculation in December last year?!?
Plz enlighten me. Why were tanker stocks higher in December?

[Anonymous No.18905411]

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT RTX HAS BARELY ANYTHING TO DO WITH COMMERCIAL CIVILIAN AEROSPACE WHY THE FUCK IS IT TANKING THIS BAD

WHY IS AMD GOING DOWN THEY FUCKING BEAT THEIR EARNINGS AND GAVE FULL YEAR GUIDANCE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.18905418]

Lads I did nofap the past 2 weeks and also sun bathing to regenerate vitamin D and have so much energy now I even convinced some chick to send me tits/pussy pics and she wants to bang

Bullish on nofap
Bearish on incelism

[Anonymous No.18905421]

>>18905343
Near ATH? What ticker are you looking at?

[Anonymous No.18905422]

going to be holding my bank stock bags for a long time, huh lads? :/

[Anonymous No.18905423]

yeahhh, I'm thinking suicide time

[Anonymous No.18905432]

>>18905394
P/E long term and RSI within the window you are looking at. Do not buy 1 minute undervalued RSI and expect stock to stay undervalued for months or vice versa.

[Anonymous No.18905434]

>>18905235
Where do you think SOXL is going? Are you long term bullish?

[Anonymous No.18905441]

>>18905099
>imagine doing what you’re supposed to do to make the most money with big corporate stocks

[Anonymous No.18905442]

Is tvix counting that the market is tanking?

[Anonymous No.18905445]

>>18905411
haha line go up on bad news
line go down on good news haha
brrrrrrrrr

[Anonymous No.18905448]

>>18905434
>Where do you think SOXL is going?
Crabbed

[Anonymous No.18905455]

>>18905418
Fruitless coomerism is exactly the same thing as trying to rip your dick off every day. True Chad finds a good woman and pumps her silly.

[Anonymous No.18905458]

>>18905422
Nope Wednesday is brr day it will pump in the afternoon

[Anonymous No.18905467]

>>18905411
Because everything is overbought, it's as simple as that.

[Anonymous No.18905472]

imagine not all in June puts

[Anonymous No.18905475]

>>18905434
I just yolo it, I’m no longer in a position, hoping for a sub 120 re-entry, but if I see the right indicators for a bull run I’ll hop back in

[Anonymous No.18905476]

>>18905270
Was he right or do we just listen to his old senile ass and make his word prophecy

[Anonymous No.18905477]

Why is SPY missing the memo that stonks only go up?

[Anonymous No.18905483]

kneel before your king BYND. Praise S.O.Y fuck your testosterone
Traps are the future

[Anonymous No.18905485]

>>18905448
Seems about right.....
Serious questions, is there anyway it can get back to recent 52 week highs? All of its holdings would have to have a massive uptick, and they are all already bloated.

[Anonymous No.18905486]

Might get another leg down here

[Anonymous No.18905493]

>>18905411
DUDE chill. just keep buying it will go up eventually and you would have bought the bottom for once.

[Anonymous No.18905497]

>>18905180
>all the bad corona news gone
Nigger you’re joking right? All these dumbass flyover states that reopened are already seeing an increase in cases

It’s just begun motherfucker

[Anonymous No.18905499]

>>18905418

Based. Especially the vitamin D part. Ascetics in India use to sun their scrotum and asshole for extra gains

[Anonymous No.18905500]

>>18905458
Should I dump them at near break even? Or could banks do well over this recession?

[Anonymous No.18905502]

>>18905472
Thanks, we needed that for rally to the new ATH in June. Your sacrifice is appreciated.

[Anonymous No.18905503]

>>18905243
skyrocketing inbound in the next few days

[Anonymous No.18905512]

If a stock is going up, how do you know to hold or sell and buy more? What math goes in there?

[Anonymous No.18905513]

Disney is hemorrhaging money you retarded fucks, SELL

[Anonymous No.18905514]

>>18905497
citynigger cope lol

[Anonymous No.18905515]

BOBO
BOBO
BOBO
BOBO

[Anonymous No.18905517]

If Nasdaq goes red we're in for a bloody day

[Anonymous No.18905534]

>>18905513
sure man bet against the america
bet against the jews
im sure you'll win

[Anonymous No.18905535]

>>18905476
Nobody really cared what he said. Air canada released earnings monday they are down 90% in profit. It will be the same with the other airlines

[Anonymous No.18905537]

Tvix Bros!!!

[Anonymous No.18905543]

MY ASS, MY ASS IS BLEEDING PLEASE STOP

STOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPP

[Anonymous No.18905545]

>>18905512
Everything is kinda overvalued now, or most things are, so when you get a chance dump it imo. Right now we are riding on the wave of the Fed pumping money into the economy. When they have completely blown their load, then this shit will likely come crashing down. I'm short term bull and long term bear.

[Anonymous No.18905552]

>>18905534

[Anonymous No.18905562]

>>18905512
This is kind of a poor time to be asking that question, of all questions.

[Anonymous No.18905564]

>RCL extending cancellation policy into April 2022
Yikes

[Anonymous No.18905567]

>>18905500
Just hold it for a week we could be up 10% tomorrow for all we know

[Anonymous No.18905571]

>>18905512
you don't know, you just listen to other people on this board and post memes about it

[Anonymous No.18905573]

>>18905411
Yes yes yes.Priced in, clown market, brrr

I doubt it ever made sense to non-institutionals during times like these.

[Anonymous No.18905576]

Get me those cheapies, bobo.

[Anonymous No.18905578]

>>18904885
based and foresight pilled

[Anonymous No.18905579]

>>18905336
This. Day traders are a bunch of idol worshipping boomer manbabies

[Anonymous No.18905580]

I only hate two things, dividend kings that slash their dividends, and the dutch

[Anonymous No.18905585]

Unironically invest HTZ and get aboard the rocket. Next stop, the fucking moon

[Anonymous No.18905590]

Is this really that easy bobros

[Anonymous No.18905592]

Thank you SQQQoliders for bagholding when this thing was a real stinker

[Anonymous No.18905596]

>$DIS is up
never bet against the mouse

[Anonymous No.18905602]

>>18905512
If they have consistent revenue and earnings growth then it should keep going up. If they're profitable but aren't really increasing in earnings and revenue year over year then the stock has no fundamental reason to go up over time.

[Anonymous No.18905603]

Who else here is 30% up on SPY puts and ready to reload during the inevitable fake and gay pump?

[Anonymous No.18905610]

>>18905423
not before me

[Anonymous No.18905611]

>>18905422
If you are under 50, theres no need to hurry. Unless you are retarded and spent money that you needed soon. Otherwise just look for other things to buy or buy the same bank stocks in lower prices

[Anonymous No.18905613]

>>18905375
We ride together we die together

[Anonymous No.18905614]

>>18905543
>even miners are down. damn

[Anonymous No.18905621]

>>18905545
Been short term bull, mid term bear, long term bull. If there isn't another leg down from having to basically skip Q2-Q4 earnings, interest rate eventual hike, and oil being hot trash then the stock market is just a rigged slot machine that doesn't care about GDP or earning anymore.
Then I'll go all in on TSLA

[Anonymous No.18905622]

>>18905596
im betting with the mouse i just want some more sub 100 mice so i want another nice dip

[Anonymous No.18905625]

$NBLX is raping my ass bloody.

[Anonymous No.18905627]

>>18905603
i bought them a bit too early and got rekt by theta

[Anonymous No.18905631]

Let's all take a moment to laugh at the tanker bros who said DHT would be mooning today after earnings.

[Anonymous No.18905641]

The stock market is currently taking a turn for the worse today because it's just been revealed that the internet favorite retarded streamer DarkSydePhil, currently tied up in bankruptcy, is getting his $500k debts discharged. The news sent heavy sell signals across all markets.

[Anonymous No.18905644]

>>18905374
I bought it while it was around $7 so I’m golden

[Anonymous No.18905652]

>>18905585
More like next stop bankruptcy

[Anonymous No.18905653]

>>18905631
FUCK YOU !!!

[Anonymous No.18905655]

tfw all the money Im losing based on meme bets I’ll recovery when I buy boomer stocks at the bottom come July

[Anonymous No.18905656]

Are there inverse funds with no leverage? What do you think for shorting the market?

[Anonymous No.18905665]

Went all in on SONM and grabbed it at 1.00 still hovering at that support before breaking upwards

[Anonymous No.18905666]

>>18905611
It's a small amount I bought last year, those got hit worst in my portfolio from this. Maybe I just hodl. I feel like banks always revive.

[Anonymous No.18905677]

WHAT HAPPENED
JUST WOKE UP

IM SO GREEEN WHY IS MARKET TANKING

[Anonymous No.18905680]

>>18905631
>but, muh conference call!
>bernie can still win, match me!

[Anonymous No.18905681]

>>18905641
Wow I never thought I’d see a DSP reference on fucking /biz/ of all places

[Anonymous No.18905685]

>>18905656
PSq, sh, dog

[Anonymous No.18905689]

>>18905653
you basically bought because someone who was building his short position came here and started shilling it

[Anonymous No.18905699]

Which was your worst investment in the last 5 years?

[Anonymous No.18905700]

Went all in on MARK This shit is going to a dollar easily. Thank me later.

[Anonymous No.18905701]

>>18905677
Have you been asleep for the last 3 months?

[Anonymous No.18905702]

Anyone got any idea what's going on with MMM ?

[Anonymous No.18905703]

>>18905621
Who's going to buy Tesla's when oil is $10 a barrel? Only thing going for them was fuel efficiency. That's probably why elon is throwing fits on twitter he knows the sales are down

[Anonymous No.18905706]

>>18905631
>>18905653
>>18905689
Time to buy!

[Anonymous No.18905707]

Ok, where's the bottom for RTX? You fuckers told me to buy at $60.

[Anonymous No.18905708]

>>18905701
Yes

[Anonymous No.18905709]

>>18905699
Missing the dip in cunny

[Anonymous No.18905710]

>>18905699
all of them

[Anonymous No.18905711]

>>18905666
nice get satan. Do you have a price target for JPM? I'm looking for $85, $75, and $70

[Anonymous No.18905720]

>>18905699
tankers

[Anonymous No.18905721]

>>18905656
Dwsh, bzq, ewv, sbb, efz. Diversify your shorts.

[Anonymous No.18905725]

>>18905699
Tankers

[Anonymous No.18905726]

Bros idk what to believe anymore...

[Anonymous No.18905735]

>>18905707
SELL at 60 not buy.

[Anonymous No.18905737]

>>18905699
JBLU easily
Fuck POLOS
>>18905703
It won't matter. The market will literally not respond to any actual market signals if none of those things I mentioned don't phase it.
Line go up. No questions.

[Anonymous No.18905749]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.18905750]

>>18905707
50 don't be scared just keep buying damnit

[Anonymous No.18905755]

>>18905708
Well boomers shut down the global economy because they were scared of dying from the flu, and now that they realize it was just the flu, they are angry that they missed the dip and are trying to dump it again

[Anonymous No.18905756]

Okay whoever is pumping needs to fucking chill right now.

[Anonymous No.18905759]

>>18905699
fucking spy puts. always timed wrong.assfucked by theta

[Anonymous No.18905760]

>>18905700
that was last weeks play. i sold yesterday for 70% gain

[Anonymous No.18905765]

>>18905699
buying btc

[Anonymous No.18905769]

>>18905512
Set a target, lets say 20% profit on your initial. When the stock reaches that point, sell a portion of your holdings and keep the remaining stocks in case the price keeps going up. Research more to understand if you should invest more in the future.

Tldr: Sell portions of your holdings as the stock goes up
Thats the risk free way but yeah, you run the “risk” of not maximizing your profits incase you invested in something like amazon in the early days.

[Anonymous No.18905770]

>>18905585
Same here senpai.

[Anonymous No.18905774]

Just bought some puts on McDick's. Shit's gonna get fucked once the country runs out of meat. Not only that, but there's a shortage of CO2 for carbonation from reduced oil refinement, so soon you won't be able to get a burger or a drink. Some local fast food chains around me aren't offering soda any more, it's a matter of time until it reaches the big players.

[Anonymous No.18905775]

>>18905699
tankers

[Anonymous No.18905777]

>>18905299
I hold BA puts. Feeling super comfy despite being 70% down.

[Anonymous No.18905779]

>bought cvs yesterday at 61.4
>sold today at 63
e z money

[Anonymous No.18905780]

>>18905700
Yeah right

[Anonymous No.18905784]

>>18905709
Based

[Anonymous No.18905788]

We gonna crab til next year bros.

[Anonymous No.18905790]

>>18905709
basedo

[Anonymous No.18905806]

>>18905585
listen to this anon if you want to get rich.

[Anonymous No.18905816]

>>18905780
Based on tanker market logic, this will moon MARKs share price

[Anonymous No.18905821]

>>18905336
This. He costed me money.

[Anonymous No.18905824]

>>18905699
My ex

[Anonymous No.18905825]

>>18905699
GALT
but it wasn't that bad

I'm more of a "getting killed by 1000 tiny cuts" type of investor

[Anonymous No.18905826]

Just $.20 more to stop me out of FRO and end this suffering.

[Anonymous No.18905832]

>>18905677
>Tanking
Good choice of words

[Anonymous No.18905833]

>>18905699
I bought Cinemark at the peak.

[Anonymous No.18905835]

>>18905421

ah yeah, I forgot that they once were a big phone-manufacturer. I'm thinking in recent years. They are very close right now to say their 5 year top.

[Anonymous No.18905836]

>>18905737
>The market will literally not respond to any actual market signals
Are you forgetting how tesla dropped 70$ a share in 5 minutes cause of retard elon tweeting

[Anonymous No.18905840]

>>18905703
>sales are down
>suddenly elon is “le virus is hoax, protests are gubment conspiracy guy”
Can’t write shit this good

[Anonymous No.18905841]

Fuck this crab market. I'm literally up $200 since over a year ago and I have 85k invested. If I knew the stock market was gonna be like a savings account I would've bought an apartment instead of renting all this time

[Anonymous No.18905849]

>>18905788
red tomorrow
dead cat bounce on friday

[Anonymous No.18905855]

>>18905699

uco before the split

[Anonymous No.18905859]

>>18905703
The people who were already buying tesla. People who want to pay a premium to virtue signal. Oil prices aren't going to affect them.

[Anonymous No.18905860]

+0.03%

[Anonymous No.18905862]

Bears are losing....this will end green

[Anonymous No.18905864]

>>18905836
>tweets are the only market signals
I want off this clown planet AHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.18905866]

Get up to watch open fir once. Same circus. Remember why i don't bother to pay attention to opening hour or two.

i'm going back to bed. 3000 party hats before end of week.

[Anonymous No.18905876]

>>18905755
ABSOLUTELY retarded take. Virus is real and potent. Even if it’s a “flu cousin” this is NOT the flu. This is a more deadly and contagious strain and regardless of how much of a nonevent you think it is it was ENOUGH to fuck the medical systems sideways. I don’t like boomers either but they were right to flip their bricks being the most susceptible

[Anonymous No.18905883]

>Tankers
I just dont get it at all

[Anonymous No.18905888]

>>18905806
>>18905770
inb4 Hertz avoid bankruptcy and ZOOMS past 500 %

[Anonymous No.18905893]

>>18905021
why?

[Anonymous No.18905896]

>>18905774
All shortages so far for all products have been sporadic and temporary and the scale of mcdicks ensures that even if there are shortages they'll be first in line for what supply there is

[Anonymous No.18905902]

>>18905726
Believe fundamentals only. This board is a mixture of genuine bad advice and trolling. I come here to relax.

[Anonymous No.18905903]

>>18905860

[Anonymous No.18905906]

anyone still betting for a real estate crash?
What are some tickers to bet against real estate

[Anonymous No.18905911]

>>18905876
lol

[Anonymous No.18905912]

>>18905902
Fundamentals have literally not mattered since March 1.
This is all TA for now.

[Anonymous No.18905914]

>>18905876

Nobody has the right to act like a faggot in any situation. Government shouldn’t have the power to shut business down either.

[Anonymous No.18905915]

>>18905685
>>18905721
Think it would be good to buy into some of those soon? How long can the fed keep this up?

[Anonymous No.18905919]

I have this mental picture of a zoomer wojack buying in any dip no matter how bad it looks or how bad the news are.

>*dips*
>zoomie buy!
>*oil goed -300%
>zoomie buy!

[Anonymous No.18905929]

>>18905919
kek this is me

[Anonymous No.18905935]

>Almost a big boy
Keep the cheapies coming for a few more months. I'm still getting paid.

[Anonymous No.18905941]

>>18905860
i really wish minor changes would be viewed in grey scale instead of red or green.

[Anonymous No.18905942]

>>18905876
>fuck the medical systems sideways
>layoffs in the medical sector because hospitals are literally empty from this nothingburger hysteria
Really makes you think

[Anonymous No.18905950]

>JCP at 0.19
Where are those faggots that went all in at 0.25?

[Anonymous No.18905953]

>>18905699
1. APPL buy puts
2. DF sell puts

Anyone got the Wojak with a DF hat?

[Anonymous No.18905959]

>>18905935
Jesus you would have made so much more money with literally any tech play

[Anonymous No.18905963]

Heh, is that all.you have bobos? Green day confirmed.

[Anonymous No.18905964]

>>18905876
Literally nobody under the age of 40 dies. This is the biggest nothing burger in history. Even more than the Holocaust

[Anonymous No.18905965]

>>18905919
They're impatient fuckers.

[Anonymous No.18905967]

>>18905883
Good news bad, bad news good in clown market

[Anonymous No.18905972]

>>18905876
half my family work in hospitals.
literally nothing is happening kiddo.

[Anonymous No.18905978]

>>18905841
House is the best investment you can make. Once paid off it's like getting a dividend payment every month. Also a used Toyota isnt far behind. You can become der evige boomer as a young man.

[Anonymous No.18905980]

lol how the fuck is disney in the green today?

[Anonymous No.18905984]

>>18905906
banks probably, but they are going down, the entire shitshow is a dumpster fire

[Anonymous No.18905986]

>>18905950
Glad I stayed out after getting pushed out at about $1.00. May have walked away profitable with that one too.

[Anonymous No.18905987]

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

[Anonymous No.18905991]

>>18905942
Layoffs in hospitals were for administrative staff. This is being used as an excuse to begin automating hospitals.

[Anonymous No.18905993]

FUCKING BULLSHIT MANIPULATION FAKE MARKET AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.18905997]

>>18905950
I'm still holding onto Block Buster from a decade ago.

[Anonymous No.18905999]

>>18905980
please don't mention disney i'll shoot myself

[Anonymous No.18906004]

Oh come the fuck on ES, missed my entry by half a fucking point before it blasted..

[Anonymous No.18906007]

>>18905950
>All in
People were putting like $10 in

[Anonymous No.18906011]

TGTX

[Anonymous No.18906015]

>>18905964

[Anonymous No.18906018]

>>18905980
>>18905980
IDK but I need them to go way greener or tank

[Anonymous No.18906026]

>>18905950
I did, but I took my 26% gain and got out.

Memes always pay, you just have to time it right.

[Anonymous No.18906027]

>>18905980
It's a small world after all....

[Anonymous No.18906028]

>>18905987
BASED
A
S
E
D

[Anonymous No.18906033]

Is it a green day or a red day?

[Anonymous No.18906035]

Volume is pathetic today bunch of scared fucks

[Anonymous No.18906037]

>>18905987
I'm new to investing and was thinking when all this coronashit blows over about getting into some dividend index funds. They seem to pay about 4-5%?

[Anonymous No.18906043]

>>18905980
I think it is mostly because people who were looking at investing in Disney wanted to wait until after earnings to see how the price would react. This inverse is also true. WM met market expectations and is dropping.

[Anonymous No.18906046]

>>18905959
Ok

[Anonymous No.18906054]

>>18905702
No fucking idea. They are at their 5-year low, broken through MA50 and they presented great Q1 earning results. There's no FA or TA to explain the amount of fuckery going on some companies, especially those best positioned to deal with this pandemic and the upcoming recession. Look at NOVN Q1 report and then check the graph to get a good laugh.

[Anonymous No.18906061]

>>18905912
Yeah they haven’t mattered bc this is unprecedented reality in modern times, but they’re all you can TRY to rely on. My second point still stands. This board is all dumbfucks who think they’re the wolf of Wall Street for shorting penny stocks from obscure Chinese energy companies. If someone approached you IRL outside the grocery store trying to convince you to buy half of these busted ass stocks you’d look at them like they were trying to sell you a castration

[Anonymous No.18906075]

>>18905991
Nurses and doctors are getting laid off. With states cancelling services besides treating people with the rona. They have no revenue except unless they declare someone with a common cold as positive

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/demonstrators-stand-with-hundreds-of-laid-off-palomar-health-medical-workers/2304909/%3famp

[Anonymous No.18906076]

>OIL

[Anonymous No.18906078]

>>18905991
Doesn't change the fact that hospitals are empty. See >>18905972

Seeing this unfold makes me realize how easy it was to sell the Holocaust even if it was just a hoax like this chink cold

[Anonymous No.18906086]

>>18905942
Wow it’s almost like population density is a thing, and when the lower pop flyovers start getting cases from clown world’s death throes attempting to reopen, you’ll see the impact of said layoffs

[Anonymous No.18906091]

>>18905950

[Anonymous No.18906095]

>>18906078

Easy? Literally all you have to do is repeat something long enough and it becomes the truth. Old Jewish trick.

[Anonymous No.18906099]

that was the last dip ever, perma bull market incoming

[Anonymous No.18906100]

>>18905993
Didn't you get the message at the Synagogue last week? Pump Tuesday, Dump Wednesday, Buy Friday

[Anonymous No.18906105]

>>18906054
For what it’s worth I was interested in 3m and decided to listen to their CEO speak and it turned into a hard pass

[Anonymous No.18906109]

>>18906086
I'll be just fine in my comfy rural retard village
Enjoy your Mad Max future, citynigger

[Anonymous No.18906110]

>>18905964
There are hundreds if not thousands of 30 and under deaths. Just because they’re less likely doesn’t mean they won’t happen and that if you catch this you aren’t susceptible to permanent lung scarring. Don’t be fooled by hoaxer bullshit. They’re just desperate normies who want everything back to comfortable lies.

[Anonymous No.18906112]

I need a break I literally don't know what to buy, everything looks bad to me. What do I do?

[Anonymous No.18906115]

W-where is lean hogs bro

[Anonymous No.18906118]

do you guys ever take a moment and think:

"I'm currently living in the worst economic depression since the 1930s"

like, it's kind of based

[Anonymous No.18906119]

someone told me that gold was supposed to go to 3000

[Anonymous No.18906126]

>>18905987
I used to not believe, but now I see the light

[Anonymous No.18906136]

>>18906110

I like how you pathetic doomer weirdos have tried to act like you aren’t the normies. Bunch of mask wearing chicken shit normies you all are. Biggest nothing since the last shilled nothing.

[Anonymous No.18906137]

>>18906054
what the fuck indeed.

[Anonymous No.18906139]

>>18905972
Maybe if you live in an irrelevant ass shithole like Alabama. I live in NYS, I’ve messaged dozens of nurses trying to find out for myself what’s going on, bc admittedly I was suspicious at first too. They said we’ve been covering up spikes of flu with unusual symptoms since December, that’s the general consensus from about a third of them.

[Anonymous No.18906148]

>>18906118
Is it the worst depression since the 1930s though? investors certainly don't think so.

[Anonymous No.18906150]

>>18906112
go do something else!

[Anonymous No.18906155]

daily reminder to avoid advices from anime poster

[Anonymous No.18906156]

>>18906110
they're totally not lying guys
the numbers are real!!1

[Anonymous No.18906158]

>>18906151
>>18906151
>>18906151

thread

>>18906151
>>18906151
>>18906151

>>18906151
>>18906151
>>18906151

>>18906151
>>18906151
>>18906151

[Anonymous No.18906160]

>>18906118
Feel like it's all a hoax by globalists. If the news and media didnt exist nothing has changed at all

[Anonymous No.18906163]

>>18905914
Nobody’s saying it does, but people who are smart should be home of their own accord. That’s been the spacebrain play since like February

[Anonymous No.18906164]

>>18906148
investors are objectively the most economically illiterate group.

[Anonymous No.18906165]

>>18906112
Don't buy?

[Anonymous No.18906171]

>>18906156
Based nigger

[Anonymous No.18906172]

>>18906118
No, that's third person thinking.
Only hyper self aware losers do this.

[Anonymous No.18906179]

>>18906112
Do what chicken-chan says >>18906150
Walking away from your charts can be good, you don't have to force things. That's when you start making emotional mistakes.

[Anonymous No.18906183]

>>18906118
>>18906118
this is more like 1901 than 1929

[Anonymous No.18906191]

>>18905935
How much do you have invested? Reading up on it, dividends only work if you have a metric fuckton of money to start with

[Anonymous No.18906202]

>>18906037
If you want to hold it long term, a lower dividend is better, because it is a lot more tax efficient if it's used to grow the company

[Anonymous No.18906253]

>>18905950
Jcp was my first job they treated me well, feels bad man I hope they make it

[Anonymous No.18906258]

>>18906078
>chink flu
>hoax
Using your same logic, I could just as easily say:

Seeing this unfold makes me realize just how easy it would be to stack bodies for NWO depopulation death cults even if it wasn’t a hoax after enough counter culture posts online

This all comes down to whether the virus is serious or not, and unless they’re pulling some mass lies (which nurses would have realized and leaked esp in hardest hit states) we see that it is by now

[Anonymous No.18906265]

>>18906110
In new york 95% of deaths are over the age of 50. Its highly unlikely we have even hit 1000 deaths under 30

[Anonymous No.18906269]

Last chance. Steeper than Emma Watson's chest

[Anonymous No.18906276]

>>18906160
i think it's more obvious now than ever. rich mans game etc
I'm waiting for the collapse but don't know which stocks if any will survive. Buying american. MAGA!

[Anonymous No.18906281]

>>18906109
Because you live somewhere next to nobody else wanted to live lmao

[Anonymous No.18906370]

>>18906258
It's very infectious nobody said it wasn't. But is it especially dangerous? No. Is it worth shutting down the economy for? Fuck no. This hysterical overreaction makes you think we're dealing with an especially infectious version of ebola or the Spanish flu 2.0. In reality it's milder than even regular flu.

[Anonymous No.18906372]

>>18906136
>>18906136
I’m not a doomer, go over to /cvg/ on /pol/ if you want doomers. They still think this is airborne aids. I’m a realist. No reason to suspect this virus is fake. Every reason to take precaution.

How could us “believers” in the virus be the normies when the media and you ignorant fucks denied it even existed or mattered until it actually started spreading here? I was on this for months following the news that MSM wouldn’t touch. I don’t know who or what you’re implying I am, we’re both on one of 4chan’s more obscure boards rn

Btw, donning mask is the most chad move you can make regardless of pooh flu, we just didn’t have a culture that was accepting of it (why idk) and now it’ll be pretty much just like how asian cultures already were in regards to personal protection. That doesn’t make you a sheep, it makes you smart. Your image concerns about donning protective gear make you ironically a huge sheep, the same kind you fear so irrationally

[Anonymous No.18906383]

>>18906269
Fuck yeah Hertzbros

Bought 1000 shares today, next stop is the moon.

[Anonymous No.18906396]

>>18906156
Show me an actual link instead of an easily faked image and we’ll talk

>nigger ape outsmarting anyone
That was my first X to doubt

[Anonymous No.18906419]

>>18906269
you putting in minimal effort for a screencap has me sold

[Anonymous No.18906433]

>>18906383
See you on your yacht, HTZChad

[Anonymous No.18906456]

>>18906156
Btw if you go off the whole testing kit the numbers are fake thing the only reason we’ve seen so far that accounts for that is the whole medical coding thing, and the “less effective tests are cheaper” thing. The nuclei acid tests that work better are “expensive” so jews don’t want them mass produced here in US. And HIPAA codes are assigning corona label to most deaths which will admittedly see some bloat where it didn’t technically cause the death. But that’s not enough to account for some conspiracy of completely bullshit numbers, it’s just another symptom of something that came on so fast we weren’t prepared to deal with

[Anonymous No.18906469]

>>18906419
kek

[Anonymous No.18906473]

>>18906078
probably living in buttfuck nothingburgertown

[Anonymous No.18906482]

>>18906118
This is unironically Weimar America, regardless of the virus. The virus (hoax or real) was just the push we needed to explode the culture wars. We’re going full accelerationist bad ending future here within 20 years

[Anonymous No.18906500]

>>18906281
I grew up in NYC and fled as soon as I can and probably 70% of people I know want to do the same or are actively working on leaving. Are you some tranny or roastie? Those are the only people I know who like urban american shitholes

[Anonymous No.18906527]

>>18906396
reee i demand my info be from (trusted) mainstream sources! They have my best interests in mind and aren't controlled or curated in the least!
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/tanzanian-paw-paw-tests-positive-for-covid-19-president-magufuli/ar-BB13xpD0

>>18906456
blah blah numbers
> HIPAA codes are assigning corona label to most deaths which will admittedly see some bloat
so you're saying they're falsifying numbers. Is it impossible these tests themselves are fixed?

[Anonymous No.18906550]

>>18906265
I meant internationally not just in NY. The younger deaths are a smaller proportion no doubt. But make no mistake if we fuck this up and it spreads that lower proportion expands and could include you.

>>18906370
If it’s that infectious it absolutely is. If we ignore this and do NOTHING then we end up with those sub million death figures like they initially projected. At the very least we need the production to get every American several disposable P100s they can wear out and to work if you want to keep the economy open that bad (to go work for jews no less). But this was absolutely worth slowing the economy over. Besides, isn’t the quarantine fun? Are people that miserable at home doing what they want to do and not being slaves for a change? Really makes you think

[Anonymous No.18906565]

>>18906482
trump's got this
virus is their hail mary

[Anonymous No.18906578]

>>18906037
The tradeoff is usually a lower beta, which means less growth in the actual price over time

[Anonymous No.18906593]

>>18906527
>>18906527
I didn’t say anything about “trusted” you didn’t post anything at all faggot

It’s not impossible but it’s not likely. What you’re perceiving as some grand design is most likely simple incompetence. The more effective tests take longer and are more costly to produce. That’s why Trump had to team up with his corporate killer’s row of funding to create drive thru testing

[Anonymous No.18906638]

>>18906370
You are one stupid nigger. I had to reread that last part just to make sure you said what I thought you said. Milder than regular flu?!

Based on current numbers as is the death rate is confirmed higher than regular flu. The only reason retards like you think anything otherwise is bc regular flu is SPECIFICALLY less deadly and infections, and doesn’t have a campaign to stay home or slow the economy over it. If we didn’t have the quarantines, you’d be seeing numbers even YOU couldn’t deny.

Even if you take away 10% of rona deaths on suspicion of false causes of death, the death to recovered ratio is still worse than flu

[Anonymous No.18906644]

>>18906160
I wish I could be as dumb as you, you probably think that if you close your eyes the world disappear

[Anonymous No.18906659]

>>18906500
I don’t live IN the city I live in the greater metropolitan area. The political culture sucks but having businesses and infrastructure around is essential. What do you do when you need medical care, get airlifted to some podunk hospital?

[Anonymous No.18906679]

everyday i see red, any gains i make are wiped out by stupid trades. ive just been sitting at my original amt for a month. what do i research to actually make money, TA? dont want to be stuck in a 9-5 for the rest of this existence bros

[Anonymous No.18906686]

>>18906565
Trump is hardly any more an ally to you than the “let’s inject hormones in babies” democrats. He’s a confirmed Jew shill (a NYC elite being jew-adjacent color me shocked) who I’m 75% confident saying grifted all of us with his America first rhetoric, and he’s merely the lesser of two evils this election

[Anonymous No.18906693]

So this is /COVID19/ general now?

[Anonymous No.18906695]

>>18906644
>he doesn't notice the disparity between reality and media-created reality

[Anonymous No.18906713]

>>18906160
Nothing has changed at all? How do you figure? Nevermind the media reports they can go fuck themselves, go outside. Go into town (please get an N95 or better tho)

Nobody is out, grocery stores are going from nothing on shelves to slightly more than nothing on shelves.

[Anonymous No.18906781]

>>18906686
you seem more like a shill after every post but you are from NY
Trump has done more for me in his tenure than any D nom. Literally put money in my pocket. Not from tomorrow's future but from the filthy Fed.

The media wouldn't be constantly embarrassing itself trying to smear him if there wasn't a threat. Media is in collusion with various powers promoting deadly corona panic in an effort to hamper elections.

this is why dems FROM THE BEGINNING of the virus have tried to fix mail in voting.

[Anonymous No.18906786]

>>18906695
See >>18906713
even if you ignore the media reports, go into town. Notice all the businesses with poster board saying closed temporarily or outright closed due to corona. See less people out? The ones that are with mask and goggles? Yeah something is happening and even if I’m wrong and the virus is fake and it was all a manufactured move to take away freedoms (I still try to look for evidence of this despite believing contrary) then SOMETHING is happening.

[Anonymous No.18906883]

>>18906781
Those trumpbux checks are going to be your tax burden in years to come and I hope you reflect on this post when you realize that

What am I shilling for exactly? Never said anything pro media, pro jews, pro democrats. All three of them can go fuck themselves. I’m only advocating for taking INDIVIDUAL informed action like staying safe and not falling for lies within any narrative.

I’m not saying trump is (((theirguy))) either, but he’s for sure not (ourguy), in reality trump is a narcissist pleaser and probably just wants to play to wherever he gets the best ego reinforcement from. I’m not trying to be orange man bad guy here I’m still ticking the box next to his name in November, but I am saying he’s not this stalwart political idol that Qtards and boomers are propping him up to be and that much is obvious

And dems care more about his “attitude” than anything else. They don’t like that he isn’t fake as is the standard for corrupt politicians who lie to our faces. Because he’s more real they don’t like him. I see it, and I get it. But that doesn’t mean he’s a paragon of truth either, in the last few weeks there have been solid examples of trump flipping in regards to reacting to coronavirus protests and treatments. Not even trying to hate, but I have to make heavy disclaimers to not be accused of being the opposition