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>> No.19384540

First for Jesus.

>> No.19384552

>>19384540
Absolutely based.

>> No.19384558
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19384558

>links for bears

kek

much better than the gay anime OP

>lets hope we didnt get too cocky bulls

>> No.19384561

>Trump fucking up my MSFT calls
Well, can we unlock Algos from US CEO accounts? Pretty sure we can find another top one.

>> No.19384572

>>19384561
Why are you not in airlines yet?

>> No.19384574

>>19384540
>holy thread protected from Jew noses
Based

>> No.19384580

Where my TSX buyers @?

We loading up on XIC today. Might grab a bit of PPL too. Almost time for banks. REITs next month?

>> No.19384587

>>19384528
>links for bears
My sides
>>19384540
Very based

Reminder that bobos ITT are not your friend.
Fuck bears

>> No.19384589

REPOSTAN':
>>19384488
>Except it has «social» in the name, thus are linked to society.
What?
>Twitter, and other social media will have to create a «special» status for public VIPs.
What constitutes a public VIP? Is it based on official title or "social media follower" count?
>>19384475
>If they only publish what they want, they become publishers and not a social platform and has such will be liable for what people post on their site.
The legal precedent will be with print newspapers. And no, they technically are but its absolutely rare when it happens. Libel lawsuit fees are what browbeat newspapers, not the libel suit cases.
And here is the easier solution that would be a lose-lose for EVERYONE. Make all social media platforms require subscription fees. Then they do become online newspapers with editorial staff.
>>19384494
Here is my prediction. Trump will give up when inevitably the counter will be that if he wants special status as a person of record then he cannot delete, hide, or request edits of anyone that replies to his tweets. Powerful politicians are not allowed to pick and choose if they hear only good or bad comments. That becomes the far heavier first amendment argument.
Trump wants a SAFE space, not a FREE space.

>> No.19384590

>>19384572
Am I, and AAL didn’t dump yesterday ;_;

>> No.19384592
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>>19384558
I posted vacuum hentai and literally no one appreciated it. It was a dark day for me...

>> No.19384598

i unironically expect a pullback today

>> No.19384603

>>19384598

> t.kike

>> No.19384615

the nogs in mpls burned down a low income housing building lmao

>> No.19384620

>>19384592
i think your life in general is quite dark if that was the highlight of your day

>> No.19384629
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19384629

>8/12 positions are up pre-market
How many of your positions are blessed anons?

>>19384598
It will be roughly the same as yesterday, dip within the first 15 minutes then crab it's way back up.

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>>19384603
NAIL is up 48.06% this week
maybe i'm just HOPING for a pullback so i can buy more?
either way i'm grabbing some $30 puts just in case

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19384647

>sold deutsche bank at 45% gain today

noice

>> No.19384648
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19384648

>most IDs are red

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>>19384620
It was humorous. But the fun police bullied me of course. That particular day was uneventful and joyless. Today I’m going to make it a great day.

No more shadows for me!

>> No.19384661

>>19384653
>ketchup on the bottom

>> No.19384663

>>19384648
Jesus is green that's all that matters.

>> No.19384668

>>19384528
I’m thinking about putting money into Boeing today

>> No.19384671
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19384671

>he sold the dip

>> No.19384672

>>19384615
Every protest was always an excuse burn and steal shit.

>> No.19384673

Is NIO an actual good investment with all this China shit?

>> No.19384684

>>19384668
Very good and brave decision anon.

>> No.19384686

>>19384673
i'm not touching anything based in china or with a chinese CEO

>> No.19384689

Is it time to invest in airlines?

>> No.19384696

>>19384653
>>19384671
you sad examples of a failed man

>posting cartoon girls

when was the last time you had sex?

>> No.19384700
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>>19384686
Some people gamble with chink shit. I’d say it’s a poor choice. USA has taken a hostile tone towards Chinese students too; canceling their student Visas

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>>19384689
hurry up dude if ur gonna do it

im too big a pussy to put more money in now that it already went up a little bit

i have what i have for airlines u know ? u get me

>> No.19384714

>>19384700
plus they seem prone to absolute bullshit

>> No.19384720
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>>19384696

>Random person saying bad things about me.

You can’t hurt my feelings because I don’t have any. I’m the ultimate alpha male. You may not like it, but I am what you strive to be.

>> No.19384721

I feel like a degenerate for wanting to invest in Norwegian Air, Its almost 100% bust.

>> No.19384734

>>19384689
>>19384721
Do swings, don't baghold.

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>>19384696

>> No.19384738

How are the unemployment numbers today?

>> No.19384740
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19384740

>>19384686
Enjoy poverty.

>> No.19384742

>>19384528
Bulls you have one. I have joined you since 300 SPY, but couldn't really believe the V shape recovery.

>> No.19384745

>>19384720
whats your definition of an alpha male then?

>sitting at home posting anime while others try to discuss something
>not employed

what am i striving for? what characteristics do you have that any average male would want?

>its literally none

KYS

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>>19384740
Yeah. You keep getting rich without me. You go get em tiger.

>> No.19384763

>>19384738
They get published in 30 minutes

>> No.19384770

Got my green bags all open and ready for HAL/DAL/MRO to deliver the cash. I'm just sitting back waiting doing nothing cause my sell orders are already set. Life's good when I don't gotta life a finger in pursuit of green instead I can sit on my ass and let it fall into my lap.

>> No.19384781

>>19384740
>all future growth potential was pinned on up-and-comers like LK

>> No.19384786

>>19384763
You don't know them in advance?

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19384807

Anything I should be investing into today fellas?
Shill me

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>>19384745
When I wake up, there are a couple of girls waiting in their car, waiting for me to rise. You see, I’m 6’2” and have 2% body fat. My 10 and half inch cock is just an after thought.

The main reason girls wet their panties when I’m around is my charming good looks and my fantastic sense of humor. I once got a girl pregnant by telling a joke. She was still wearing pants at the time.

I can see how lesser men would be jealous of me. I feel sorry for them honestly. I could probably mentor you if you ask really nice. But I’m going to need an apology first

>> No.19384817

>>19384807
Yourself.

>> No.19384821

>>19384813
nice dodging

you know your life is trash

keep posting your anime big boy :)

>> No.19384831
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19384831

I bought dominos pizza in 2008

>> No.19384834

Is buying SPY puts a bad idea?

>> No.19384835
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>>19384598
I expect to not know what to expect

>> No.19384843

>>19384721
I'm very excited about it. My government is supporting them, they have turned very lean before the crisis, they did a stock emission and raised a lot of capital. If they don't tank by July, the "official" summer vacation starts, and a bunch of countries like Greece and Spain will have opened up, so that's going to be good I think.
The stock emission was mostly bought by some large companies under a contract that said they couldn't sell until august. So the first time they are able to sell is from Sunday the 9th. Which means I am planning on holding the stock until Thursday the 6th, the day before everyone thinking the same will unload it.

Am I retarded, or is this viable?

>> No.19384847

Rug pull imminent, the recovery isn't going to be a full recovery, we're only going to get 25% of the economy online.

>> No.19384853

>>19384847
> t.faggie

>> No.19384855
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>>19384821
If you aren’t going to apologize, I won’t mentor you. You need to take some responsibility first

>> No.19384873

>>19384598
crabbing this week
soaring next week

>> No.19384877

Fucking answer me!
>>19384580

>> No.19384878

In the 80s and 90s American movies shilled the idea of ordering pizza to your home. T
At the time this type of service was unknown in many other countries. For example it didn't exist at all in Germany. Nowadays it's very common but you still feel "cool" doing this. Finally you can live your childhoom dream, woohoo!
Meanwhile dominos pizza stock had a 4000% ROI

A few years later and media pushes interracial sex. Netflix is a cuck company partaking in this idea. They had another big boom.

What has the media been shilling to children in the past 5 years? That's where to invest for the next sure 100x investment in 5-10 years

>> No.19384880

>>19384540
Absolutely based

>> No.19384883

>>19384873
No crabs allowed

>> No.19384897

>>19384696
>when was the last time you had sex?
around 5 years ago

>> No.19384902

>>19384740
There have been studies that show that GDP growth above a certain threshold and stock returns are inversely correlated.

That's because mature economies have less NEW economies, hence the growth is captured by existing economies.

On the other hand emerging markets have a lot of new companies capturing the growth. You would have to buy these new companies at inception to profit from their growth. Meanwhile the established emerging market companies you likely bought underperform the market.

>> No.19384907

>>19384853
technology is dead. the people are onto the globalists plan to put nanobots into the vaccines they're going to force us to take to leave our houses that respond to the 5g radiation to alter your dna and then make you willingly give up your guns and your freedom of speech.

>> No.19384913

>>19384878
Well DIS+ should be on fire then since it markets to both Kiddies and adults.

>> No.19384930

So when do we start pricing in the second wave?

>> No.19384937

Alright, so I have a question that I can't find an answer to, trying to learn stocks.

So stock I get: A share/stock is x% of given thing you're buying into. Value of thing goes up, value of stock goes up, etc. Buy low, sell high.

But then there's options/puts. I get that options are the riskier, and therefore potentially the more profitable play.

If I buy an option, I'm not buying an actual stock, but the right to buy into that stock at a certain pricepoint, for a certain number of shares, until a certain date. If the price of the stock goes up, these options become valuable because you can now by however much stock at below market price.

The point where this gets confusing is that I could, instead, sell these options instead of exercising them. This is the part I don't understand. Because a: Who am I selling them to? and b: how much money would I be making? If I buy some options and the stock price doubles, how much does my position improve?

And puts I don't understand at all. They're like options, but in reverse? So like, I literally bet on a stock going bad and get paid for it, without ever owning a stock?

The simpler the explination the better, since I am apparently high finance retarded, I just see some stocks I think will go up and wanna figure out the risk/rewards before I put money out to gamble.

>> No.19384938

>>19384913
That's the medium. But which ideas are they pushing on their audience?
I know for example that "smart home" is another such meme with potential for explosive growth but now it's already too late to invest in this.

Like what is "cool" at the moment to 10 year old kids? What was "cool" 5 years ago?

>> No.19384949

>>19384937
Simple explanation: call = more money if stock go up
puts = more money if stock go down

That's all you need to know

>> No.19384967

>>19384949
Unless you wait too long, or the IV drops, or the volume drops, or a million other things.

At least learn the Greeks before you start trading options they're really easy.

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19384981

what are some simple graph patters I can learn?

>> No.19384982

>>19384653
I hope that you have a good day today

>> No.19384987

>>19384930
no time left for a """second wave"""

>> No.19384994

I masturbated 2x yesterday.

>> No.19384996

>>19384967
> the Greeks
Tell me more anon

>> No.19385008

Is joe on CNBC this morning? So far I have only seen Andrew , Becky , and Zucc

>> No.19385019

>>19384996
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/greeks.asp

>> No.19385031

>>19384937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFYOKIsPdes

>> No.19385032

>>19384949
crabbing like this week
options expire worthless
theta gang wins

>> No.19385033

>>19384996
Also read about credit spreads, iron butterflies, iron condor, etc. There are a lot of strategies in options trading for whatever you think the security will do, and how much risk you want to take.

I don't know much about it myself. With calls in particular, I don't really get why you'd want that if you really think it's going up, because then you're paying the premium for something you're buying anyways.

>> No.19385034

>>19385008
Yes sadly.

Joe is truly insufferable.

>> No.19385036

>>19385008
Ok false alarm, Joe is still there and bringing his standard boomer banter

>> No.19385057
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19385057

WHO /ASX/ HERE?

>> No.19385066

>>19384937
A simple way to get a feel for options is to pull up a calculator, www.optionsprofitcalculator.com for example. Pull a few actual options (long calls/puts) available and look at the resulting charts. There are many more complex strategies than this and not all of them are as risky as you might think, but that is a good place to start.
If you don't feel like doing a ton of research on the topic, just stick to etfs and gamble a small stack on the side.

>> No.19385070

>>19385033
Short term calls give you a massive leverage with minimum / defined loss

>> No.19385071

>>19384981
Down = bad, up = good.

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3100 by friday

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>>19384982
Thanks fren. Things are going to go our way. I can feel it

>> No.19385086

>>19384938
Hell I've no clue what's considered cool to kids anymore. Maybe V.R but that's already a thing, well maybe not a good thing, there won't be true "V.R" till star trek holodecks are a reality.

>> No.19385089

>>19384598
My futures are printing, looks like the third bull day.

>> No.19385092

>>19384598
Yeah, this. I think the tech pullback was the canary in the coal mine, coupled with the fact that Hong Kong is being annexed by the Chinese.

>> No.19385100

>>19385072
Nah, that's on Monday. 3075 is more like it.

>> No.19385108

puts SHOP vs puts TSLA vs puts FB
which one biz?

>> No.19385130

Any upcoming IPOs you guys are watching/looking forward to? Im thinking I should spend my last 5% of my cash on speculative stuff since im younger

>> No.19385136

>>19385108
FB would've been the most profitable but I would go SHOP 2nd.

>> No.19385143

>>19385108
> puts TSLA
Elon decreased many model prices, indicating lagging demand. He announced this on the day he could bury it under SpaceX launch news. I'd bet money he'll issue more stock in 2021 and blame "KOMMIEFORNIA #Redpill" for it.
Even still it is 50/50 if that zoomerstock will rise or fall.

>> No.19385148

>>19385089
expect some xboxhueg profit taking early

>> No.19385164

is CACC going to die or what? are they unkillable at this point?

>> No.19385169

>>19385089
It's actually dripping.

>> No.19385176

>>19385136
i feel i should go with SHOP as well
>>19385143
TSLA has been a massive ponzi i need to make money out of shorting it

>> No.19385183

>>19385034
>>19385036
Andrew is a whiny soiboi faggot, I'll take the boomer any day.

>> No.19385188

>>19384528
My meme! Thanks OP, that's nice to wake up to :)

>> No.19385204

>>19385188
>updates resume

>> No.19385214

>>19385176
Don't do it anon. Don't underestimate the cult.

>> No.19385217

UE slightly higher than 2.05M expected at 2.123M

>> No.19385242

>>19385217
And GDP lower than expected too. It's a buying day today

>> No.19385251

>>19385217

and we pumping fuck yeah

>> No.19385253

what's going to happen to WMT when congress announces the end of the extra $600/wk in UE benefits?

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Anyone else invest while /padded/?
I enjoy abu bunnyhops but I'll wear just about anything for my trading comfy.

>> No.19385258

>tfw holding tech bags

Someone please tell me everything will be alright. I never asked for this.

>> No.19385269

should i buy sqqq puts bros ? feel like the nasdaq will dump at the start of the day then pump back up

>> No.19385270

>>19385253
Congress will then release another.

>> No.19385271

I hope Cruise oil inventories goes down a lot. I want another oil rally

>> No.19385273

>>19385204
>So anon, tell me about a time when you went above and beyond, and how did it impact your career?

>> No.19385282

>>19385254
yeah, that's based all right

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>>19385072
thats a huge fucking bull, god damn

>> No.19385289

If you want SNSS cheapies, you are running out of time.

>> No.19385296

>>19385258
Everything will be alright. Zoom's p/e ratio of 1,900 is completely fine.

>> No.19385300

>>19385057
Yeeeeesss cunt, what do you use to trade? The big banks shaft with fees, so so far I pretty much just hold CSL cos it literally can't go down

>> No.19385302

>>19385108
SHOP puts looks like your best bet.

>> No.19385304

>I was right about rtx

What a strange feeling

>> No.19385308

DAL @ 57
MRO @ 12
HAL @ 20
Not a penny less will I sell.

>> No.19385314

>>19384714
To be fair you are what you eat

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If I dump 5k into TQQQ at the next big dip and forget about for 5 years, will I make it (to a degree)?

>> No.19385325

>>19385019
>>19384967

>Describing and explaining the different dimensions of risk involved.

This is all probably helpful information but frankly it confuses me and doesn't answer my main question.

From a payout perspective, how much better are options, and why?

Like, I know that if the stock jumps, then options are worth more on a per-dollar-invested on the gain, but I don't know how much better, or why. all I know is the bit about exercising options, and that its not how most options guys make their money.

>>19385066

This... helps? I'm seeing way more buttons than I expected, but since it's not real money I guess I'll just click until the numbers make sense.

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>>19385315
Maybe.

>> No.19385335

>>19385304
Same here, I might even average up. I'm willing to buy shares until it gets to $80

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>>19384707

>> No.19385347

>>19385330
Jesus Christ, seriously spooped. Might just go for QQQ instead.

>> No.19385362

>>19385335
kek, I'm never selling my RTX.

>> No.19385370

>>19385325
Most options expire worthless. But if you have a winner you basically control the profit margin worth of 100 shares. You either win big or lose everything. Or you could bet on nothing happening by selling options.

>> No.19385373

>NASDAQ down 1% premarket

It's all ogre.

>> No.19385375

>>19385308
timetable on these fren ?

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[email protected] RTX bros

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>>19384580
>>19384877
I'm already 90% in on TSX. I'm considering HMJI (inverse Marijuana). Any reason money bleeding Marijuana companies would ever go up?

>> No.19385397

HATE Microsoft
fucking lost 400 Euro on this shit so far
Who the fuck sells Microsoft? Their ATH valuation was justified
Like companies are going to use less microsoft porducts when lockdown ends? what the fuck is wrong with these retards?

>> No.19385403

>>19385325
Well let's be more specific, A lot of buzz happened around GSX because they may (or may not) be faking their earnings like LK was found to do. I bought a small put betting it would be 15$ next month, you can look this option up, GSX, 19th Jun $15.00 Put. Set the lower bound for the range for the chart low (like 5$) and you can see what it will be worth on what day at what price. Keep in mind you can and often should sell the option before the exp date.

>> No.19385407

>>19385375
Well all three are what they were trading around before the virus landed. As to when exactly they'll retake those highs it depends on the speed the U.S economy and things open back up.

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>>19385373
>>19385397
dotcom bubble 2.0 is bursting. I may consider buying Shopify when it's around $100 and they make money.

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Tech stocks will bleed into other sectors pumping the cheapies.

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Is DFEN a good buy today? It's been skyrocketing this week but I'm worried I missed the boat

>> No.19385417

>>19385335
>selling low
>buying high
Never change /biz/

>> No.19385421

What do we buy today boyos?

>> No.19385422

>>19385347
to be fair, the chart's assuming you bought the top of the tech bubble and held through every bear market.

>> No.19385425

>>19385407
alright, i'll keep holding my mro then

>> No.19385427

WHY PEOPLE SELL MSFT 4 DAYS IN A ROW? ARE THEY RETARDED?

>> No.19385433
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RIP Section 230

>> No.19385441

>>19385397
Sure they will. Ever used any M$ products? They're criminally bad. The lockdown is the perfect opportunity for companies that bought into the m$ train to try out alternatives. Slack + google ecosystem + zoom + amazon cloud will come out as the preferred ecosystem going forward. M$ ATH was justified? Hahahaha! They make all their money through government and military contracts nowadays. Except their shit is as bad as any pajeet-coded garbage tends to be. Of course military won't be using zoom for security reasons but hell if they use m$ anything despite having full source access. Even micro$oft employees hate m$ products and they universally believe the best thing satya has ever done was allow them to use non-m$ devices at work (at which point almost all of them switched to macs).

>> No.19385442

>>19385421
everyone buys MSFT

>> No.19385444

>>19385392
Weed goes up due to muh M&A. Muh market growing. Muh first movers advantage. Muh CBD is the future. Canada is a degen hellscape and the rest of the world is catching up fast.

>> No.19385445
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>>19385427
MICROSHIT WINBLOWS

Why don't people just use Linux, Thunderbird and LibreOffice. They're literally free.

>> No.19385446

>>19385425
If nothing else, MRO deals with natural gas not just pure oil so that'll help them.

>> No.19385464

>>19385421
SPY 295 puts dated approximately next week.

>> No.19385467

>>19385176
>TSLA has been a massive ponzi i need to make money out of shorting it
TSLA is impervious to DD, FA, you name it. It is fueled by GIBBS and hope making it impossible to accurately time the short.

>> No.19385469

>>19385433
You mean it will stop being abused?

>> No.19385472

>>19385421
SHOP puts

>> No.19385475

>>19385315
Young investors should always take advantage of their age and their increased ability to take on risk. The reason leveraged ETF's are not as popular is simply because of the different ways it will fuck you up in the long term thanks to fees, rebalancing, etc etc.

>> No.19385486

>>19384598
Not till 3100/9800

>> No.19385487

>>19385412
DFEN includes a good bit of BA sooooo... maybe hold off

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>>19385445
>Why don't people just use Linux, Thunderbird and LibreOffice
They seriously suck. LibreOffice would have a hard time competing with Office95

>>19385441
Microsoft products are the gold standard. All other vendors are measured against it except for cloud. There AWS has this status.

>> No.19385492

>>19385445
Software and hardware compatibility.

>> No.19385499

>>19385469
Without 230 the internet really can’t function. This’ll be one of the first sites to get nuked. Gook-moot aint fighting this shit in court.

>> No.19385503

>>19385475
And volatility. That's the biggest problem

>> No.19385506

>>19385325

"how much better" depends on the contract dude
that's why you need to read the greeks and understand how they affect an options price

>> No.19385509

>>19385490
>Microsoft products are the gold standard.
Poo in loo pajeet!

>> No.19385515

Hey airlines bros, interesting stuff.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/easyjet-share-price-reaction-after-4500-job-cut-announcement-2020-5-1029242444

easyjet is going up. by now youve probably seen that our guys at American are going to cut 30 percent of management, aka the big salary guys with no union.

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/transport/american-airlines-says-to-cut-management-and-support-staff-by-30

>> No.19385524

Unemployment my ass
Jerome, get the printer going!!!

>> No.19385526

>>19385472
strike / date ?

>> No.19385530

>>19385509
Do you know why greasy fat losers hate Microsoft? Because they are communists who fell for the open source meme in 1990 and hate software companies for making a profit.
Why are you even on /biz/? Shill your marxism on /pol/

>> No.19385531

>>19385490
>Microsoft products are the gold standard
The only microsoft package that is a standard of anything might be office. And that is basically only because LaTex has an obnoxious learning curve that will permanently turn off the public.

>> No.19385534

Hmm, MSFT falls to 178. Everyone goes nuts at the "cheap price". Uh no thanks. If it falls to 100 or 99.50 then you'd have something to be legit excited about. Cause when you thank about it a puny $12 dollar shave ain't a big deal.

>> No.19385547

>>19385487
On a related note, are pre-crash ATHs for ETFs a reliable metric for their potential? From what I can tell, ETFs can change their holdings on a whim, and in the case of DFEN can even hold cash (7%).

>> No.19385548

>>19385300
IB at the moment

>CSL

thats been dumping as of late hasnt it? when did you buy in?

>> No.19385562

>>19385304
>>19385335
>that chart

wtf happened? did the merger make the chart look really silly or something?

>> No.19385563

>>19385325
From a payout perspective, simplifying as much as possible, options have similar upside to pennystocks with somewhat reduced risk (unless you're buying puts on pennystock in which case downside is the same), as you can trade options on easy things like good stocks (MSFT, AAPL, AMZN, etc.) or ETFs (SPY, QQQ). The max risk is how much you buy the options for, the max reward is technically unlimited on calls and 100 x contracts purchased x share price on puts, in practice average gains of 20% in 5 minutes based on purchase price are almost guaranteed if you know what you're doing in volatile markets such as right now.
But as the other anons said, learn the greeks, it's very important.

>> No.19385577

>>19385530
Hilarious you say that when m$ is now saying they love opensource and release more and more of their core software partially or completely openly.

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SPY $320 here we come!

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So if TQQQ does 3x QQQ every day, but is unsuitable for long term holding because it "decays", does that mean the decay is happening during off-hours, like close to open it should fall some on even QQQ or gap up less than 3x on positive after hours QQQ?
I'm trying to wrap my head around how 3x is bad to hold.

>> No.19385590

>>19385254
based stock & diaper duuuumper

>> No.19385591

>>19385534
I bought at 153 2000usd worth of it. It's been great but now I feel like I'm holding a turd. I should have sold at least half to 3/4 at 185 and bought 4 or 5 companies that I've been looking at. 2 in finance, 1 airline, 2 industrials

>> No.19385594

>>19385531
You clearly have less than 200 USD in your Robnhood account and never worked a day in your life
Did you EVER look at operating system marketshare?
Did you EVER see anyone sending mails and doing spreadsheet calculations in l*tex?

Latex is the biggest memes of all. You can render word pages as PDF and there goes the exact same thing: letters. Literally no difference except for the font and you can install this font in Word within 1 minute

>> No.19385596

>>19385586
Here's one perspective: if you lose 3x 10%, how much do you need to gain that back? What about if you lose only 1x 10%?

>> No.19385608

>>19385594
The irony is so thick, it could even be mistaken for this pajeet's poo smell.

>> No.19385612

>>19385577
>now
One of the main code contributors AND donators to Linux since the 90s anon.
The difference is Stallman is only by technicality not promoting socialism and his cabal pretty much all ARE.
The free software was great, the elitism and phony moral objections to copyright were not.
That's why the GPL is a steaming pile of shit no one touches with a ten foot pole, even to the point that its inclusion in something fucking destroyed CraftBukkit right at its peak popularity, and everyone with half a brain uses MIT or LGPL instead.

>> No.19385618

>>19384673
Earnings call today. Literally just happened. They beat loss estimates. Im up like 300 bones. Its literally investing in official CCP car company. And China is moving to make EVs mandatory in near future.

tldr-- fuckin A its a buy. and a steal at these prices. Its going to be to TSLA what alibaba is to amazon.

>> No.19385621

Someone explain to me why cloud stocks are dumping.

>> No.19385629

>>19385586
There is usually a cost associated with maintaining 3x leverage, so it can decrease if the underlying trades flat.

>> No.19385639

>>19385136
>>19385176
>>19385302
how low will that shit stock go before july?

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>>19385618
>tfw made the mistake of selling it after being one of its biggest shills here

>> No.19385643

vix up and futures up ? wtf ?

>> No.19385669

>>19385618
>trusting chinese numbers
bruh

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guys all this nigger shit is extremely bullish the kike news is switching out of chink flu onto niggers if you don't already sense this your not going to make it sorry =/

>> No.19385682

>>19385596
I'm not talking about volatility, I'm talking about being unsuited for long term holding due to being made of degrading assets like debt or whatever.
I'm assuming that must mean it doesn't track 3x during after hours and just degrades instead, because otherwise if I thought NASDAQ would go up long term enough to buy and hold QQQ for say three months, wouldn't I just want to put it in TQQQ and make 3x as much?
Or if I couldn't risk that, just put 1/3rd as much in TQQQ as I would in QQQ, and then invest the other 2/3rds in something stabler but still profitable, or just hold it as cash?
It doesn't matter if a dip is 3x more intense if I'm just holding it unrealized until a set value or date, which is what long term holds are about anyways.
Right?
Or am I missing something, or does it actually degrade after hours?
>>19385629
Oh, like they just take the "charge" out of the fund value rather than charge you a fee for holding it? Makes sense I guess, thanks anon.

>> No.19385685

>>19385594
>this autism
If you mean consumer gold standard sure. For anyone that uses a computer seriously beyond the level of excel spreadsheets, no.
It is telling that Microsoft just straight up buys companies that are/were going to be the standard for various computer sector markets.
The actual internal stack for the beta versions of future microsoft releases is almost indistinguishable from what you'd get from a linux distro.
Slack is already grabbing much of the workplace email space. Github is even used internally by Microsoft developers. Much of the backend revisions to Word were in response to Latex.

>> No.19385687

>>19385618
It's like you haven't heard of lucking coffee.

>> No.19385695

>>19385673
So invest in NKE?

>> No.19385703

Have a few thousands in my account but no idea what to do. Worthwhile to buy calls/stocks right now or just hold off while the rest of my accounts sits in stocks/options?

>> No.19385710

>>19385695
Short TGT

>> No.19385713

>>19385531
OpenOffice is comfy, free alternative.

>> No.19385715

>>19385445

>why windows

Literally video games. If it weren't for gaming I would live and breathe Linux.

It's not even a quality thing, I just love the open source movement and mindset.

>> No.19385716

where's the retard shilling NTNX now? kek more like NTR

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looting target is bullish as fuck

>> No.19385738

>>19384528
Boys. Wirecard is some hot shit right now.

>> No.19385740

>>19384540
BASED

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I haven't been here since end of March when all this shit started. How are you all doing? Are you expecting a strong dip again? If you are, what are your reasons? (Rationality may have no place here ..)

>> No.19385767

>>19385685
Kind of a shitty point to make when all modern Linux distros that anyone actually uses got that way from making their UIs more like Windows despite the screeching autistic old-timers being against it, and how "far along" a given distro is will always be measured in what Windows-like features it can now offer, how close it is to Windows in terms of handling networking easily, and how well it can run WinE
>>19385710
Is there an upstream television manufacturer I can short too?
>>19385715
If you want open source, a sane mindset, and quality - and even documentation! - try OpenGL and skip straight over the Linux autists, they only exist to bog you down and waste your time trying to make you join their circlejerk IRCs and lurk constantly to learn obscure details of how to get the actually useful programs to actually run and do useful things.
Or just read shitty unreliable outdated man pages until suicide.

Take the professionalism and documentation pill, try OpenBSD today on a second machine!
Don't do FreeBSD, it's for trannies, and don't do NetBSD, it's for literal toasters.

>> No.19385769

BULLGODCHADS RISE THE FUCK UP
WE NEED TO PUSH THIS BITCH HIGHER

HIT THE ALL TIME HIGHS

LETS GOOOOOOOOOO!

>> No.19385777

going to dump at morning

>> No.19385785

>>19385777
cope

>> No.19385789
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> i might go green since march

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So many bumble bees flying through my window today

>> No.19385796
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AR anon here. I do this shit, niggas. Ask about me.

I didnt even put yall cats up on Blue Hat and its acting a fucking donkey this morning.

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>I just love the open source movement and mindset.

>> No.19385809

>>19385785
He does have trip 7s tho...
Logically there is no reason for things to dump yet, but I do respect the digits, hurm...

>> No.19385810

bros why is the nasdaq dumping when the other indices aren't ? tech bubble bursting ?

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>>19384528
Buy now while you still can.

>> No.19385827

>>19385810
>tech bubble bursting
yes

>> No.19385829

>>19385810
trump is fucking with social media and dragging it down

>> No.19385832

>>19385809
shit i didn't notice... forgive me bogs

>> No.19385833

>>19385810
People moving out of tech and back into everything else as they believe in the recovery.

>> No.19385840

>>19385796
thats proper based innit

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>>19385810
Well just look at this shit.

>> No.19385845

sorry boys, i bought in yesterday. the market will now crash.

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>>19385695
No.

>> No.19385850

>>19385825
(DFEN+NAIL) is the American stack

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>>19385777
Good healthy digestion. Line go up tho.

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>>19385845

based cooler

>> No.19385866

>>19385842
SHOP is a TSLA level ponzi scheme

>> No.19385868

>>19385825
fuck it im spending my paycheck on $15 6/19 calls

>> No.19385872

>>19385586
Basically TQQQ just needs QQQ to be winning for you to make money. If QQQ loses money, trades flat, or even just rises mildly, you lose. As long as it goes up, you make big buggs.

It doesn't really decay per-se, just that it has to win decently big to make you money, and if it's losing you will lost money FAST. To think of the decay more accurately, just think about compounding. If you start with 10 dollars and apply 1.1% daily, you will make X, but if you started at 15, you will make that much more due to compounding. All they are warning you is to try and get your money in at the last minute before you think QQQ is going up.

Also I guess technically these usually have higher management fees, but that shit is like half a percent so who cares.

It's not as risky as those prospectuses make it out to be tho.

>> No.19385887

>>19385810
Hong Kong to lose special trading status and US China trade-war set to intensify

Huwei executive one step closer to extradition from Canada to US

Trump to issue executive order curtailing Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act

Antitrust enforcement likely to follow

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>LMT at $399 pre market

finally we're going past 400. get in while its hot bros.

>> No.19385890

all aboard the C JPM USB train

full gains ahead

>> No.19385891

>>19385682
It really seems like all the TQQQ folks are just seeking validation on what is an extremely risky play. It has all been said before, past performance doesn't predict the future, leveraged ETFs can bottom out and never recover, they underperform the underlying in a volatile market. If you want to gamble, gamble. Google what you are asking us and the conventional wisdom is leveraged ETFs are not suitable for long term, if you want to make a contrarian play, do it.

>> No.19385908

>>19385673
Will hats ever be this popular again

>> No.19385918

>>19385810
rotating to value names

happens every once and while

its a good thing. value goes up and tech lets you buy good names cheaper

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pic related

>> No.19385924

>>19385890
Ok ok, I was holding USB calls for a while, but then I started thinking the Goldman Buyout I was hoping for wasn't actually going to happen, and that their exposure to commercial lending (while less than PNC or WFC) might still be enough for any interested party to sit on the sideline and see how they weather the rest of the year.

Sold my calls for like a grand profit, but I can't help thinking maybe a merger will happen yet.

You think they've got a shot?

>> No.19385926

>>19385695
No, invest in GEO.

>> No.19385930

Bought the dip in March and held. I'm fucking rich

>> No.19385940

>>19385872
Okay, thanks for the explanation anon.
>>19385891
I don't get it really, I see lots of people in here making covered calls but leveraged ETFs are too risky?
I'm not trying to be a "contrarian", I'm asking WHY they're not suitable for long term. If you don't know that's fine, just say so, it's not like I'm trying to undermine your worldview or something.

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Why yes anon, I did buy short dated calls on SPY yesterday, how could you tell?

>> No.19385943

Anything on sale today or still? I want cheapies. Or any runners? I’m kind of out of the loop bought cheapies a while back and got lazy and passive just taking in the green and haven’t looked around much since

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>>19385777
Witnessed

>> No.19385948

>>19385930
post it bro let us celebrate with you

>> No.19385955

>>19385586
It's basically free leverage
The same as lending money, never paying it back (only paying the interest) and putting everything into stocks

>> No.19385956

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.19385964

>>19385908

They’re more popular now, every balding or lazy faggot wears a ballcap or one of those stupid neon mesh trucker hats now. Question is will cool and different hats ever come back?

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Mumus are we sick of winning yet?

spoiler/no/spoiler

>> No.19385971

>>19385891
>It really seems like all the TQQQ folks are just seeking validation on what is an extremely risky play
2x-3x is optimal "leverage" range. And leveraged bull index (or close to it) is basically just maximizing on the "just buy an index LOL" play. TQQQ, SPXL, URTY, and UDOW all do the same thing. They only go down long term from either a protracted crab or long slow bleed. And if that is the case, nothing was going to be the winning play anyway.
>It has all been said before, past performance doesn't predict the future, leveraged ETFs can bottom out and never recover
This is true generally but these are index plays. Leveraged over market averages. Betting against them is like betting against the underlying indices which means you are really betting against the underlying market.
If you can't win with these, you wouldn't have won with anything else on average.
> they underperform the underlying in a volatile market
This is the true hazard. Long protracted crab periods. Huge swings are fine since you can set trailing losses or other triggers. But +0.2%/-0.2% for years will kill you with a thousand needle pricks.

>> No.19385973

>/biz/ shitting on MSFT
Yes this had to happen!

>> No.19385976

>>19385930
really thought it was going to crash further, shame on me.

do you foresee another strong dip like that? surely there will be an effect of all of this months down the road

>> No.19385987

Bros I think I'm retarded
Say I have 1000 call options for BA at a strike of 150
If it goes to 155, and the options are booked with a 0.1 ratio, that means I can buy 10,000 shares of BA for 150 and immediately sell for 155, no? I feel like I'm missing something big.

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>>19385908
I don't know what your talking about hats? Yea people love hats and will always love hats of course duhh

>> No.19385998

Am I the only one who got in on the JYNT TRAIN?
I HAVE 40 that I bought at 10.30 and I traded 60 short term. I also have call options on this bitch

Best stock ever

>> No.19386000

>TWTR getting fucked
This gets my blue checkmark

>> No.19386002

>>19385976

It dipped hard twice. You literally had 2 chances to buy in. Should’ve been DCA in both times. If it happened a third time you’d probably still sit on your hands and find an excuse not to buy. Opportunity only knocks so many times homie

>> No.19386008

>>19385987
You're right, you are retarded

>> No.19386010

>robinhood had RTX up at 69 before opening
>back to 67
fucking cocktease

>> No.19386011

>>19385924
the world isnt ending. these bank trades are the easiest i ever saw in my life.

i dont feel like posting my account but i have 160k in those 3 banks. up 20k in the last 2 days alone.

>> No.19386021

>>19385825
Fuck u

>> No.19386022

>>19385976
We'll probably never dip that hard again.
Corona is nothing burger.

>> No.19386032

The bulls are still sleeping, sell all your nasdsaq stocks and buy the dow.

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BIG RED DILDOS

>> No.19386038

Every fucking day its the same bullshit, who the fuck is funding this

>> No.19386039

>>19386022
corona isn't the issue with this fake and gay debt bubble market

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what did he mean by this?

>> No.19386041

fuck yeah, we poomping again

>> No.19386042

bros is there just a early morning dump ? my stocks were up pre market but are down now :/

>> No.19386045

I have green pretty much everywhere except RDS.A which is slow as fuck to recover.

Companies like Total just blew shell out of the water.

>> No.19386048

>Dow up
>S&P up
>Nasdaq almost green
>Portfolio down 2%

What the fuck is this bullshit

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I have a good feeling about NUGT today boys

>> No.19386057

Trumps executive order affecting tech stocks at all?

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>>19385955
>>19385872
>>19385940
>>19385629
>>19385682
>>19385891
>>19385940
>>19385971
>>19385596
>>19385682
>>19385891
>>19385940
>>19385971

>> No.19386059

>>19386048
my UVXY is green for some reason.

>> No.19386060

>>19386048

What kind of memes do you own?

>> No.19386069

snib snab praise the crab

>> No.19386070

how high will DAL go and how long will it take anons

>> No.19386075

>>19386048
What the fuck do you have that is dropping your portfolio today. I cannot find a single red stock.

>> No.19386079

>>19385987
1000 option contracts is for 100,000 shares

>> No.19386080

it's goin up today, niggas

>> No.19386088

>>19386070

30+ by the end of next week

>> No.19386089

I love how my ridiculous div paying natty gas companies are either poomping or barely down at all

>> No.19386093

>>19384528
why is GE crashing i was making good gains on it wtf it just plummeted did news break ?

>> No.19386098

>>19386040
I'll translate, "100k American citizens are dead because of me, but I care more about my twitter account than the lives of Big Mamma and Pop pop, vote for Biden because I don't care about joggers, jews, and jannies."

>> No.19386103

>>19386075
DIN (restaurant)
SM(oil)
APA(Oil)
IVR(REIT)

>> No.19386108

>>19386051
Fagot

>> No.19386109

>>19385849
me on the right

>> No.19386111

>>19386058
So 3xs are actually 2.5x on ups and 3x on downs? What is this graph meant to demonstrate?

>> No.19386113

Locked in $75 from a call I bought yesterday on spy, rotated to a put that's already worth an extra $25. That shit is literally an income now. For 5 minutes of work a day. Bearish.

>> No.19386115

>>19386022
Well the last time we had such epic shit was 100 years ago.. Yeah the financial mess was bad but nothing like this. So unless your gonna live for 100 more years I'd say your massive shit days are behind you. Nothing but green and more green till you die..

>> No.19386116
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19386116

>>19386098
shiggy

>> No.19386118

>>19386080
oh fugg i spoke too soon

>> No.19386119

god damn DIS is fucking dumping

>> No.19386121

>>19385425
We're playing the long game for gains now. Probably won't see another price surge without major oil/defense/airline action.

>> No.19386125

>>19385713
OpenOffice masterrace

>> No.19386126

Vix is approaching 30... Something big is coming folks.

>> No.19386127

who else bought VRUS at 0.005 two days ago ;^)

>> No.19386131

>>19386075
GE

>> No.19386133

>>19386075

Ford's down like 3% since the market opened ten minutes ago.

>> No.19386134

NEW:
>>19386128
>>19386128
>>19386128
>>19386128
>>19386128
>>19386128

>> No.19386135

>>19386098
Biden literally shit his pants when talking to the Governor of Pennsylvania

>> No.19386140
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19386140

i'm a lazy fucking jackass and i don't feel like day trading together. why can't everything just be green again?

>> No.19386141

>>19386119
i assume the parks are worthless now

>> No.19386155

>>19386111
The true enemy of 2x-3x leveraged plays: the crab

>> No.19386167

>>19386127
CVRUS

>> No.19386179

>>19386039
But NOW THE DEBT BUBBLE WILL POP FOR SURE!!!!!111

>> No.19386181

Whats the sentiment on SAVE (spirit airlines)?

>> No.19386194

>amazon line only go down

>> No.19386209

>>19384528
I saw some guy saying something about a canada cannabis company with a facility of 16mills that was ripe for future investment, anyone knows the name of the company?

>> No.19386221

>>19386119
Thanks for posting this, it was way up from the 88 I bought it at in March and I should have sold yesterday but got greedy. Glad I checked and sold just now, lost a little from yesterday but I wanted to sell my mouse anyways, holding it just feels dirty.

>> No.19386226

>>19386209
was it CGC?

>> No.19386253

>>19386037
and recovered. stop looking at minute candles.

>> No.19386276

>>19386098
RENT FREE TRIPTRANNY

LMAO

>> No.19386283

>>19386253
lolnope. Cope more mumu.

>> No.19386319

>>19386098
>every death in America is because of Trump

Trump literally killed my 96 year old grandma. If only he shut down the economy the moment a child in madagascar farted she could have lived a long and happy life.

>> No.19386333

>>19386098
>Pop pop
Pop Smoke really died too young man
RIP

>> No.19386350

>>19385889
only if they start selling fleshlights shaped like that.

>> No.19386472

>>19386333
too based for this world

>> No.19386498

>>19386111

Go to google and type in 1*1.1*0.9
Go to google and type in 1*1.3*0.7

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19386630

>>19384696
>posting on an anime site
all boards here are anime boards go home

>> No.19386676

>>19386226
damn bro I'm not sure, I was gonna swear I saw an S and an X somewhere but I'm really grasping at straws here. Closed the thread like an idiot.

Thanks for trying tho, gonna check that one out

>> No.19387188

>>19386630
>posting anime on a non-anime internet
Get out, newfag.

>> No.19387567

>>19386133
Ford builds shit cars

>> No.19387619

LOOK AT SPR GO HAHAHAHA

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