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>> No.19417298
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a n i m e

>> No.19417299

What are your theta plays thetabros

>> No.19417313
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if u wanna build a business and create something and manufacture something as your dream thats a legitimate respectable form of self improvement

elon musk is probably eating like pizza hut and weighs 100 pounds obese

hes not at the gym like BRO WE GOTTA SELF IMPROVE

actually hes actually doing something and not "self improving" at the planet fitness

he looks like a fat sack of shit with his shirt off and he doesnt care and he still selected his girlfriend online from a music video and named his kid after a android

why isnt elon musk at planet fitness

because thats not his goal and his goal is not vain he just wants to build cool stuff.

>> No.19417318

Some interesting shit, bullish by the looks of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So_BMLD_D-4

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>>19417285
Fuck jannies and fuck that sjw snowflake complaining about racism on 4chan while blue states and blue cities destroy themselves. Looking forward to maybe taking a chance on TVIX or UVXY while retarded progressives support rioting and looting.

>> No.19417349

>>19416908
The kung-flu was only ever a trigger. Beyond the socioeconomic disruptions it causes, by itself its only marginally relevant now. The economic effects were always what was important, and we're only just seeing what they are.

>>19417051
>The three-week shock just bodying Q1 earnings is what we should be talking about and observing.
Their suspension of forward guidance is making it difficult to observe. I guess we'll just have to take the earnings as they come and plan for heightened broad market volatility.

>>19417160
>stop saving and actually spend
The saving rate increased by about 5% through April, but when surveyed regarding their stimulus checks, the majority of respondents said their top spending categories were bills and day-to-day needs (food, etc.). People are still going to be saving as they worry about the ongoing effects of the recession, and until we see strong rebounds in consumer sentiment, PCE is going to lag. Sustained high unemployment is going to be as much a psychological drag as a quantitative one.

>> No.19417364

Yo if oil and oil pipelines shit the bed are natural gas stocks boned even though they shouldn't be tied together as much?

>> No.19417391

Looks like rumor has it that they're planning on storming the whitehouse tonight...Could you imagine? This could be a catalyst for the market crashing for sure.

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>>19417313
>he looks like a fat sack of shit with his shirt off and he doesnt care
the dude's almost 50 you stupid gookshit incel. stop giving kpop posters a bad image and stop shitting up the threads.
>>>/r9k/

>>19417345
also based, but don't get your hopes up on TVIX or UVXY. keep it small.

>>19417349
>Their suspension of forward guidance is making it difficult to observe.
No, it's absolutely damning, kek. we should be deep in bearish positions (especially cash because we're late) or commodities. some anon posted a funds flow chart from march. It's really bonds heavy.
>I guess we'll just have to take the earnings as they come and plan for heightened broad market volatility.
I don't think we'll see volatility anymore. I think that there are particular earnings reports in Q3 that are being cooked up for now. The Cares act also will keep things pretty level until probably August or September. I am staying cash heavy.

>> No.19417394

>>19417313
>Elon is fat
>buffet sold at the bottom and says nothings cheap even tho airlines and cruises are -60-70%
>trump is dumb af

It’s as if there aren’t any rules for being a chad

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>>19417349
AH 1 and AH 2 and AH 3 and AH DESTROY THE ECONOMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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>>19417392
>funds flow chart from march
sorry, a chart starting from january. from the march bottoms and onward, it's bonds heavy.

>> No.19417411

Next week is as red as my ID.

>> No.19417412

>>19417391
But could they even storm it? I thought the white house security detail is supposed to be the top of the line, I don't think a measly Zerg rush could make it pass the front lawn?

>> No.19417423

>>19417412
>But could they even storm it? I thought the white house security detail is supposed to be the top of the line, I don't think a measly Zerg rush could make it pass the front lawn?

No they wont make it past the gates, they'll literally be shot to death. But still, having a pile of dead bodies on the whitehouse lawn are pretty bad optics.

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>>19417392
almost all american 50 year olds ive ever seen all bought into the exercise meme too

in fact most of the boomers all work out the same way the young guys do now

are you kidding me dude

and do you honestly think elon musk as a 20 year old was at the gym either? NO LOL

he was doing some computer code shit all by himself he was probably a virgin the whole time

>>19417394
elon is incredibly overweight you can wear a suit and make it look like youre not but he looks like a fat fuck without it

>It’s as if there aren’t any rules for being a chad

chad to me is a specific guy who works out at the gym and is arrogant about it

donald trump is not chad he just does real estate and is fat and eat big macs

hes just a regular american guy who happens to be rich

chad is a very specific person

to me .

its not synonymous with successful

>> No.19417442

>>19417423
But would it tank the market that much?

>> No.19417445 [DELETED] 

>>19417364
Rioting seems to have a marginal effect on the stock market.

>> No.19417457
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>>19417411
NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>19417430
You're literally a Law & Order SVU meme

>>19417445
yeah, of fucking pumping.
>TGT hits 120 without the weird EOD pump

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>>19417399
STUNNING AND BRAVE!!

>> No.19417462
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I take a risk and buy some 3x leverage while the market is gaining strong thinking its going to continue for the rest of the week.
police decide to start murdering citizens and every jogger in american is now chimping the fuck out burning everything to the ground.
joggers love to do this btw, i grew up in africa, chimp outs and destruction are a part of their culture.
what you dont realise is that this is only the beginning, chimp outs only get progressively worse, until the whole country is a ruined shithole.

then all the whites leave. then they move somewhere else thats pleasant and the joggers want some of that and turn the place into another SHITHOLE

>> No.19417472 [DELETED] 

>>19417391
Why would they do this?
I like how many reacted to this, but when niggers kill each others, it’s cool.
Every community is the same, intrinsically focusing on similar/inherited DNA epigenetics. Not a problem as long as some fucker doesn’t claim its DNA is superior to everything else.

They’re going a somewhat logical road, those who want equality/respect, those who want to fuck the nation opinion about noggers, those who want to steal. Nothing related to rioting the whole America

>> No.19417479

What's Biz predictions for the 2020 election domestic and foreign opinions are welcome. I think that Trump will probably win it again if massive voter fraud doesn't happen or if the media fails to spin everything thats happen with Corona as being Trump's fault.

>> No.19417481

>>19417391
Rioting seems to have a marginal effect on the stock market.

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basically dan bilzerian is chad

donald trump and elon are not chad

they are just average dudes who are rich

i dont see any overlap similarities between dan and elon/donald

one is hyper superficial and all about looks and donald and elon have that in the back of their mind and theyre focused on actually acheiving something in the exterior world

>> No.19417489

>>19417479
Also this would shoot the stock market up higher. Compared to a Biden win.

>> No.19417515

Civil unrest seems bullish for RGR.

>> No.19417517

>>19417484
dude what is wrong with u. stop ruining this board. go find some fucking friends. this is not a board to talk about your shitty life and opinions and the fact that you're a closet case, its for making money. go back to plebbit or if u cant then to /b/. stop abusing posting asain sluts.

jan jans plz take care of this loser.

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>>19417517
i have nothing to do right now im completely bored

im a neet remember

friends dont really exist for me i have my guy i play call of duty with on discord and thats about it

>> No.19417535

>all major US cities have collapsed
>white house being invaded amd burnt to the ground
>pandemic showing signs of second worse wave
>unemployment still on the rise

sooo Monday were gonna MOON?

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>>19417489
Biden win would probably dump to holy hell, unless there was a really bullish VP pick. He probably won't. Trump winning will probably look neutral on the markets. He can only do and deregulate so much.

>>19417517
just start reporting these off-topic posts. I've gotten real tired of the race and riot related shit in /smg/ if it's not also asking "is this bullish for nail?" there's a whole hotter and faster board for that kind of discussion and for this kid too.
politics on >>>/pol/
being a whiny faggot >>>/r9k/
Braps, Milks, and Cunny can stay if they're not insufferable.

>> No.19417547

>>19417299
AAL forever.

>> No.19417559

>>19417535
Incredibly bearing for the Nikkei.

>> No.19417564

>>19417392
>I don't think we'll see volatility anymore.
We've resolved very little of the uncertainty that's keeping a lot of institutional and MM capital on the side, adding to short hedges, or flowing into less risky assets. I think volatility is here to stay until we have a clearer picture of what we're dealing with. We've got the programs in place to attempt to deal with them, but it's simply the beginning. There are an equal number of downside and upside catalysts at the moment. Fed liquidity has been the main driver of momentum and it's only a fraction of what it was at the start of the rally. Retail volume is insufficient to provide similar momentum, so what happens next is anyone's guess.

>> No.19417567

>>19417532
>>19417532
>>19417532

>> No.19417594

>>19417531
I have not seen a single one of your ass cancer posts talking about anything related to finance. fuck off to back to /b/ or /r9k/. there are boards for autists with no friends. you can discuss your gambling addiction and the fact your ruining your moms life there.\

we are not your fucking mother, we're not just going to put up with you crashing in our crib and bitching about the awful situation in life you've created for yourself by being a cunt.

>> No.19417598

>>19417313
Pretty dumb having all that money and not taking care of the only meat suit you'll ever have.

>> No.19417628

>>19417564
What do you mean a clearer picture of what we're dealing with? In regards to what?

>> No.19417650

>>19417345
>fuck that sjw snowflake complaining about racism on 4chan
You’re such a fucking faggot. It’s a troll. And you’re feeding into it and he’s laughing his ass off.

>>19417489
>>19417542
Biden would be so fucking bullish for the market. I’d only give him a 10% chance at this point, but you need to pay attention.

Biden is a steady pick, his handlers won’t make and drastic moves. He’s ANTI-TARIFF and US businesses are still extremely uncertain about what to do regarding China, and the effects of those tariffs are still working their way the economy. Tariffs are, after all, a sort of regulation, and a sort of tax. Phasing out fracking or making it more expensive to frack is definitely important (and bullish as fuck for Natty gas) but certainty is FUCKHUGE as is removing tariffs.

You don’t have to like him, but you need to understand he’s bullish for stocks.

>> No.19417658

how the fuck can the market be so fucking bullish
unemployment is through the fucking roof, foreclosures and defaults are also going to shoot up drastically in short order
you can't just print a gajillion dollars to handout and not have inflation skyrocket
thousands of businesses are going to go under and not come back up
how fucking powerful is that money printer

>> No.19417670

>>19417531
brother I get that you’re a philosopher but the insights you’re trying to provide ring hollow when they’re framed within a fucking meme, no one cares about who is or isn’t a chad, or who does or doesn’t deserve respect, by some nebulous idiosyncratic definition. We already know trump and Elon are simultaneously both based and gay, and that Danny is a little faggot

>> No.19417677

>>19417564
people who think institutions and MM are not buying are clinically retarded for many reasons but I will give you one. Look no further than shyster Bill Ackman crying end of the world on CNBC while in a short position and then flipping long as people sold the bottom.

>> No.19417685

>>19417658
Investors are optimistic about the future.

>> No.19417686

>>19417677
>institutions and MM are not buying
Ackman even fucking withdrew his money from Berkshire to buy the cheapies.

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>>19417564
>I think volatility is here to stay until we have a clearer picture of what we're dealing with.
You're right and I generally agree. I phrased my post poorly. I should have said that there's unlikely to be spikes.
>tfw holding some uvxy
>Fed liquidity has been the main driver of momentum
I think that this availability of credit will be what keeps the ball rolling. We're not yet into realizing we're going to have a solvency issue. It's creeping in, but i think that the infinite loanworks of the banking system will keep prices high until places like >>19417567 start kicking it.

>>19417628
Probably revenue. I'm pretty sure everyone is thinking:
>Oh Q1 was shit, but it was not that bad. we've still got credit
>Oh, well it takes a while for things to get back to normal so Q2 can be as abysmal as it wants
>Q3 should be a bit better but it's ok if it's not bad, BRRR guys! solvent companies guys!
>Q4 we should almost be in full tilt boogie unless the virus closes us down again.
Until people realize that the operating costs of these businesses are too high (partially due to leverage itself), and that the revenues are not coming back to levels where many corps can operate at a profit and can provide returns on their equities that justify the price, they're going to keep going up. It's not that we should correct the credit bubble, we almost have to correct it (no this doesn't need to be reflected in price, shhh mumu, I know). Businesses and private individuals are getting strangled to death because of the cheap credit.

>>19417650
You think he would keep the deregulation and tax cuts too? I'm only thinking about the red tape Trump has cut. He's been very good at making american businesses happier.
>ANTI-TARIFF
it's like he hates americans. not that it matters, maybe the equities would bump until the regulations look like they're coming back.

>>19417658
see above meme arrows

>> No.19417702

>>19417685
how though
even larger businesses are going to be hurting with significantly lower consumer spending

>> No.19417709

>>19417650
>Phasing out fracking or making it more expensive to frack is definitely important
How so would that increase the price of natty gas as there is less efficient ways of taking it out?

>> No.19417717

>>19417702
the economy and the stock market are not the same. sure many companies are likely to go bankrupt but that is not the end of the world. some of those will simply restructure and the only ones hurt will be the stock bagholders left with nothing. the rest of the market will continue to moon and can only be slowed down if a liberal american president is elected.

>> No.19417720

>>19417702
Companies are still posting pretty good earnings, don't forget trillions of stimulus is added to the economy and the fed has done more in a few weeks than what Bernanke did his whole term. The fed is going to start mainstream lending next week.

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>>19417720
>Companies are still posting pretty good earnings

>> No.19417773

>>19417484

Dan Blizarian is a joke.

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>>19417717
>the rest of the market will continue to moon and can only be slowed down if . . .
were you not paying attention in 2019? we were already slowing fucking bad.

>>19417720
>Companies are still posting pretty good earnings
what the fuck are you talking about? which fucking companies? Relative to the meme spitballs that analysts shoot out? OXY just cut its dividend like GE did a few quarters back. DIS cut its dividend. Yes it's good for the company, but holy shit dude. Insurance companies posted losses and are coping about it being from market movements (true, but deflecting from the longer term issue of low rates and rising claims), 3 weeks wipes automakers into the fucking dirt. I have no idea what you're reading man.
>and the fed has done more in a few weeks than what Bernanke did his whole term
i mean, this is great for prices, but how is this a good thing. how?
>The fed is going to start mainstream lending next week
the main street program? great, but what happened to "oh, mainstreet isn't what's publicly traded, so those don't matter for the S&P." Prices are hopping up without a good reason. it's hopeful like you said earlier, but there's really no other strong explanation. forward looking my ass.

>> No.19417788

>>19417741
Its true, a lot good and great earnings

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>>19417788
post tickers.

>> No.19417796

Just how green is Monday and next week going to be exactly?

>> No.19417805
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>>19417650
LMAO.....BULLISH....BIDEN....LMAO LMAO LMAO. What's next? Sanders? LMAO.

Trump is the closest thing to Jesus Christ the stock market has ever had.

>> No.19417807

SNE mooning soon over PS5 hype?

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>>19417807
probably not, but i'm pretty hype tbqh. I'm even a longtime nintengoy.

>> No.19417823

>>19417658
It's not really even the money printer. Everybody remembers 08 and the idea that the stock market is not allow to fail has become internalized. Everyone is bought in. From the largest investment banks to a rural teacher about to retire. If the market fails modern civilization ceases to exist over night.

>> No.19417826

>>19417780
>were you not paying attention in 2019? we were already slowing fucking bad.
>S&P up 30% in 2019
see previous post about being clinically retarded

>> No.19417844

>>19417791
NBIX,VEEV, CIEN, ZS posted good earnibgs today, there's a whole bunch.

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>>19417826
>hurrr line go up
come on senpai. we were slipping as far back as 2018. Peek over at AT&T. have they actually done anything other than waste a bunch of money? oh right, buybacks at highs. come up with a real argument.

>> No.19417857

>>19417845
who the fuck cares about AT&T except boomers in it for the dividend. you said the market slowed down in 2019, like a fucking retard.

>> No.19417874

>>19417658
>>19417658
>you can't just print a gajillion dollars to handout and not have inflation skyrocket
you can, as long as USA is the number 1 economy in the world, has strongest army and haven't defaulted on its debt even once.

you read too many books. fundamentals don't mean shit during black swans like this, where government steps in. you should think in terms of politics and common sense. do you want the economy to fail and people live in zombie apocalypse? do you think people in power are going to give up their grip over the world? lol shut your books up your ass and get on the bull train nerd

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>>19417845
people (small specs) that complain about Buybacks, never seemed to have complained about companies raising their dividends year after year for 50+ years, when the end result is the same

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>>19417844
so, a biomeme, bio digital solutions, telecom (bearish hedge), and digital solutions (bullish in corona). All are under 15bn mktcap except VEEV which is a little over 30bn
Chubb is about the sum of all three and is expecting low revenues. Digital solutions and telecom are going to be fine, but broadly speaking, it's not going well.

>>19417857
the economeme, linewatcher.

>>19417898
>buyback at highs
It's stupid. I don't buy a constantly increasing divvy either. Idk where the expectation would come from.

>> No.19417928

>>19417919
But I'm saying there are winners emerging not just losers dying.

>> No.19417935

This is newfag question, but do you get paid for options the second you write them, or does someone have to buy them first?

>> No.19417947

>>19417919
That's a small fraction of companies doing good

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>>19417928
>Companies are still posting pretty good earnings
be more specific then, and don't double down with
>Its true, a lot good and great earnings

>> No.19417952

>>19417919
Why is it stupid that companies have more money to spllooge?

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>>19417952
where did the money come from? how is Exon paying their divvy?

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Why are you bagholding stocks when you could be playing the superior options game?

>> No.19417960

>>19417484
To be a Chad, you must

1) 10/10 Appearance

2) Have effortless success in all aspects of life. Women, money and power.

Dan the man has it. Brad Pitt has it. Dicaprio had it. Tom Brady has it. Trump, Elon as based as they are, don't have all of the qualifying factors.

>> No.19417981

>>19417948
NVDA,MSFT,INTC,AMD,QLYS,TSLA. those are some big companies.

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>>19417955
Profits, Inflation, tax cuts ect. the point of the american stock market is to return value to shareholders, so dont be shocked that buybacks and dividends rise on average, Duhhhuhuhuuh

>> No.19418000

>>19417677
>>19417686
When did anyone in this thread say that institutionals and MMs weren't buying? They have strategies that they can use to meet their short-term targets. What was said was that there is a large amount of capital allocated to less risky assets, hedges, or generally speaking "on the side."

>>19417628
>I think the availability of credit will be what keeps the ball rolling. We're not yet realizing we're going to have a solvency issue.
We're already seeing credit tightening, but I generally agree. However, that doesn't necessarily correspond to increasing market momentum enough to sustain the rally once we lose the "oomph" of the Fed liquidity tap.

>>19417826
>corporate profits flat for five years
>low rates leads to inflated equity prices as companies use debt-fueled share repurchases to turbo-charge EPS and share price
The economy has been slowing down since at least 2018. Zombie company proliferation was rampant back then too, and is likely around 20% in the US at the moment. The debt binge was a key contributor to why we are where we are, economically, coming out of the CV quarantines, why the March crash occurred to the magnitude that it did, and why the Fed had to step in to shore up liquidity in markets.

>>19417628
Like >>19417698 pointed out, we're looking at longer term QoQ revenue losses that are going to start impacting the ability of companies to service their debt, in addition to further impacting equity valuation. They're going to need to reduce operating costs, which likely means more layoffs, more unemployment, further depressed consumer spending, and around go. Also note that only ~10% of SMBs have received PPP funding. SMBs employ ~50% of American works. So:
>temporary and permanent unemployment numbers
>business and household access to credit and solvency
>CV treatment/vaccine feasibility (mostly psychological)
>resolutions to geopolitical instability

>>19417983
The point of US businesses is to return value to the US economy.

>> No.19418030

NEW >>19418025
NEW >>19418025
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>>19417935
You get credit when your order fills (someone buys the contract you write) but the cash doesn't settle until the option expires or you buy the same contract later.
>>19417960
Dan Bilzerian is an FBI asset, Tom Brady is successful because of his occultist wife (google it). Strangely, Brad Pitt seems like kinda a good guy. You're right though, one's life path is determined by their True Will and power is ALWAYS self-evident. That's why the wealthy are so often also attractive and intelligent, everyone gets exactly what they deserve.

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>>19418000
The second stimulus measure should introduce an influx of cash into consumers...who in turn should spend money on useless shit. Coupled with the profits smart investors have made in the stock market AND the low interest rates companies have are going bring in the age of the GOLDEN BULL RUN.

>> No.19418051

>>19418035
Cool, thanks for clearing that up.

>> No.19418060

>>19418000
Im not giving an opinion, this is what they teach you in business school like day 1. the shareholder is #1 priority in America

>> No.19418064

>>19417981
I would only object to TSLA on that list we've already been over this - some sectors will do fine although semis might be the first to suffer from rippling effects. TSLAs earnings were cooked, the company will do well long term if they don't get rekt by debt obligations this year. How about auto, oil producers, consumer disgressionary, financial, service sector, industrial, media, real estate

>>19417983
You forgot the D word.

>> No.19418070

>>19418030
smoothbrain detected

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd9PI2BkCTg&t=402

Hope you guys didn't invest in a company with a CEO who has dull eyes

>> No.19418101

>>19418064
everything except automakers should be fine if the economy re-opens, this economy did not finish the business cycle that was happening before coronavirus, the fed and Treasury are blowing up the old bubble to be even bigger.

>> No.19418109

>>19418043
The saving rate jumped to 13% last month. When surveyed, consumers responded that they were using their stimulus to pay bills, pay down debts (e.g. credit cards, to free up credit for later in case needed in the event of unemployment), and daily expenditures (e.g., food). There were strong draw downs in PCE and consumer sentiment here in the US and globally. History is not on your side, and we'll see what the data says as it comes out.

>>19418060
And hence a reason why we run into structural issues.

>> No.19418115

>>19417532
GE was fucked when Welch left, that’s WHY he left. He sandbagged the business with all sorts of legacy (dying) businesses and bloated financing shit that made them holders of tons of bad debt, and he cut way too much R&D.

People have been calling the bottom in GE stock for many years, maybe should have been taken out back and shot.

Stocks that are tied to businesses like that, I have no interest in. I don’t care how much money you make on Canada Air or whatever, I’d rather put my money on a good business. Pepsi, Merck, Regeneron, fuckkng Nintendo. Not GE, and not a fucking airline or cruise ship.

>>19417698
>You think he would keep the deregulation and tax cuts too?
Anything he does in regards to regulation would be phased in gradually. But I imagine he would increase regulations. Mostly with token gestures. Greenwashing.

I think there’s a good reason the saudis want to diversify away from an entirely oil based economy. We just need to be 100% absofuckinglutely sure we’re not dependent on any other country for oil.
>(In the meantime, engineering will improve, and maybe we could actually invest in infrastructure and fix the fucking electric grid. And I’m 10 years, nuclear engineering will be sooooo much better. Every year it improves. We should unironically be hoarding uranium and not oil.)

> it's like he hates americans. not that it matters, maybe the equities would bump until the regulations look like they're coming back.
I kind of agree, but it’s all a guessing game at what the future could look like. I think any manufacturing businesses that come back to the US will bring back only 10% of the jobs that left, the rest will be automated and mechanized away. That’s not nothing, and it does mean we don’t have to relay on other countries controlling our supply chains. But 90% of the jobs we lost from outsourcing would have been lost to technology. Just my opinion, and obviously the number 90% is pulled straight out of my ass.

>> No.19418124 [DELETED] 

anime pedos must hang
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>> No.19418126

>>19418091
Who would've thought that investing into companies who were barely profitable or losing money was a bad idea

>> No.19418128

>>19417791
REGN
LLY
AMAT
PUSSY JUICE

>> No.19418135

>>19417805
You’re uhhhh a pretty dumb cunt, ain’t ya? You confuse what I mean by “is good for the market” with something else? You own any stocks?

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>>19418109
The Golden Bull Run is no issue of mine User

>> No.19418166

friendly reminder: posting ITT you promote/support pedophilia
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>> No.19418177

>>19418115
>And in 10 years, nuclear engineering will be so much better.
For every hippie that gets tossed into a reactor, a nuclear engineer gets his degree. Help the US remain energy independent. Do your part today.

You're right regarding the minimal amount of jobs repatriating supply chains will create, though. Those capex costs have to be justified, and if businesses can spend a little more upfront on automation to save longer term on labor, they will.

>>19417957
Neat. Keep an eye out next week for the update.

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>>19418144
Ratty why come large specs are positioned like this? The smol specs seem to be winning hard :o

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>>19418166
>whines about pedophilia from drawings of barely-human looking girls
>suggests instead the guys who were raping alter boys a decade ago

>> No.19418196

>>19418181
Excuse me my occultist friend, but I’d like you to take into consideration the COT of the nasdaq and vix as well.

I went very heavily long, so I’m definitely very biased.

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>>19418186
fake and gay

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>> No.19418222

>>19418124
Jesus AND anime. In harmony.

>> No.19418223

>>19418196
I'm long too silly (I'm always net long). /ES just seems so dramatic to me. Nasdaq 100 lookin a little flat, Dow industrial large speccies still short (just a little), VIX large and smol are short, just as they should be always. Interestingly large specs are long the russel while smols are short o_O

>> No.19418238

>>19418222
anime is sinful, Jesus is Pure

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>>19418101
>everything except automakers should be fine if the economy re-opens
They generally all need to service their debt. The amount of spending has been unreal and again, has been ever tightening margins. I think you're right about the cycle and fed action.

>>19418115
Have some titties for a nice reply I don't have anything to add. I switched over to my phone, so sorry that they're 3D.

>>19418144
>LINES UP GOLD BVLL!
Was the shit real return on stocks during hyperinflation a meme? I haven't cared to confirm it myself.

>> No.19418273

>>19418223
>VIX large and smol are short, just as they should be always.
That trade just blew up in some pension funds' faces (again). More kindling to the fire that will result in their eventual bailout.

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>>19418181
People that think they are smart bet against retail this year because 'retail is always wrong' meme, and so, the real smart thing to do this year was follow retail. Its a mental Pincer for the Mid Spec

>> No.19418302

>>19418243
A lot of businesses are still making revenue, even if it's reduced, many will go bankrupt but in the end it will be positive for the market because some were already deadweight companies and coronavirus will put them out of their misery.

>> No.19418319

>>19418238
I like that the anti animeme thread has not a shred of broad market discussion at this moment and reads like the US daytime pissing contest.

>> No.19418322 [DELETED] 

Please STOP promoting pedo cartoons and head over to the Christian thread

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>>19418281
Now that's interesting, the gut reaction normals seeing a big crash on CNN and deciding to buy the dip are gonna win? That'd make me pretty happy actual-e

>> No.19418350

>>19418302
>it will be positive for the market
Right, and we'll have to deal with the rippling effect of these businesses going under. We just can't keep using debt like engineers use WD-40. Especially not when "happy shareholders" is priority #1.

>> No.19418384

>>19418281
>>19418325
Is retail even significant enough to sustain the kind of momentum we saw coming out of March? It seems betting against retail or not is irrelevant when compared to Fed liquidity assurances, and they're slowly winding that down.

>> No.19418420

>>19418350
>engineers use WD-40
I don't know what kind of engineers use WD-40, but the unprofitable businesses going out of business will be good, credit contracts then it can expand again, if some the credit contracts right now, it can expand further later IE blow up the bubble bigger.

>> No.19418435

>>19418325
They already won since the Nasdaq has basically V'd, most popular stocks have V'd, with the exception of banks Oil and Travel which is holding the Dow back

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Sorry, I don't know the correct term but what do you think about setting a stop limit? I haven't done it so far because what if it goes right back up? If I set it too low, I lose a lot of money. If I set it too high, it might just be something that goes right back up again and I lose money.

>> No.19418465

>>19418384
As I understand it commercials make up the majority of futures volume, with smol specs being a very small percentage. The drive upwards since March seems to have been entirely off the back of OTF/institutional buying, stuff like DIX makes it clear they're buying hard. I don't understand why/how large specs can be net short /es, it's very mysterious :/

>> No.19418488

>>19418435
Suppose that's true, the last 2 months have been incredible and I've done pretty well basically just holding. Maybe the Fed's actions and the nauseous horror of the yawning void in early March has given me unhealthy paranoia

>> No.19418491

>>19418465
Are the tutes large spec? They’re not “Asset Managers” in the lower chart?

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>>19418238
gay discord ops afoot
next time you and your discord tranny friends make troll and b8 threads make sure its believable

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>>19418043
>second stimulus check goes to more poor people
>poor people spend it on crack and alcohol
I'm sure tyrone and ABC will be very happy with that money anon

>> No.19418553

>>>19416702

Fwiw I'm seeing a lot more interest in Cyberpunk 77 from normie friends who played The Witcher 3 and Borderlands 2, rather than more specific hobbyist friends who played The Witcher 3 and Witcher 2 / KotoR / etc. So I'd imagine it's going to do exceptionally well regardless of having a mediocre plot and characters, as long as the game itself isn't plagued by some obvious issue that ruins it

>> No.19418556

>>19418491
I believe that for /es they're considered large specs, commercials are like producers (for oil, grains, not index futures). I'm pretty sure the bottom chart shows more detailed positioning of the classes in the top chart, large specs are short and include asset managers and leveraged funds. Could be wrong tho

>> No.19418559

>>19418458
If you can't look at the tickers all the time it's a great way not to get screwed if your stock tanks. Set it at a level where you would be fine selling. Sure there's always the risk that the limit gets hit then immediately bounces, but it saves a lot of stress worrying if a position is going to kill your finances.

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>he didn't get insurance from niggers

>> No.19418582

>>19418559
Like with Wirecard I had this problem. I would have made a lot of money with it. I bought it at 112 and ever since it went up to 140-160 several times and crashed to 90 or even below several times but I never set a fucking stop. Because I can't decide for one.

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>>19418566
>nigger riot insurance will be offered once this is all said and done

>> No.19418592

>>19418566
I get insurance from a talking gecko.
Your strategy sounds dangerous.

>>19418556
Oooooo
I need to do further research.

>> No.19418612

WHATS THE NEXT PND

>> No.19418616
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City after city turning into Mad Max overnight.

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LOL they are just stealing cars from dealerships now. Hey Hertz you still need some help unloading those?

>> No.19418658

>>19418582
Read the OP section on risk management and have a plan when you enter a position.

>> No.19418703

Remember to just buy the FUCKING TQQQ

>> No.19418788

in honor of being a draftking bull, I opened up a draftking account, can't wait for sports to start up again so I can gamble my life savings away on that

>> No.19418805

>>19418639
that's insane. The cuckold mayor was just like, "fuck it, let them take everything. Stand down, police!"

wonder what his end game is

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Since it's saturday I thought I might drop you some redpills about beavers

>> No.19418828

>>19418639
Based
>>19418788
Does draftkings actually work for sports gambling? I'd heard of it before but assumed it was one of those scammy sites like BetDSI

>> No.19418833

MRVL run up Monday?

>> No.19418837

-The USD is at a very high risk of deflation right now due to high demand (world debt mostly in USD) and no one spending (pandemic)
-The crash was fueled by a liquidity crisis - no one had dollars freed up to spend so they had to dump everything to get dollars to make debt payments, etc.
-JPow prints money to inject liquidity so people now have dollars and shit stops selling off
-The money printing works in our favor at this point because it can counteract the deflation and prevent a flash crash depression
-We are NOT at risk of inflation at this moment, in fact the opposite - the money printing may not be enough to offset current deflation. A deflationary spiral could be more devastating than rapid inflation. It is a serious concern. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/deflationary-spiral.asp
-With the rate cuts earlier this year, and the dollar so strong, there isn't anywhere worth a fuck to invest money for decent returns except the US stock market (this is why shit wont stop climbing)
-Yes, it's a bubble. People are buying not based off of value but because they don't know what else to throw money at. No, no one knows how long this bubble will last. No, don't try to short a bubble until AFTER it pops, or else you'll end up like the SPY 180p 4/17 idiots.

So all in all , EITHER we buy into the bubble until it pops, OR we risk missing out more gains and wait for the bubble to burst

>> No.19418840

>>19418828
>assumed it was one of those scammy sites
Well, I doubt its a scam site considering its on the New York Stock Exchange. I haven't even used it yet so I couldn't tell you if its shit or not though.

>> No.19418844

>>19418639
>everyone with their phones up
>whites participating
Haha what a shitehole

>> No.19418846

Imagine going long Friday at 3:59pm the day that the second civil war begins lmao

>> No.19418867
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>AAPL

>> No.19418869

>>19417313

fatty cope.
Why is Magnus Carlssen, Ding Liren and Hikaru Nakamura not fat slobs? Because exercising enhances mental performance.

Musk has already made it, he doesn't care anymore but for the rest of us; hit the gym.

>> No.19418873

>>19418840
Hmm I just meant when I saw an ad for them like a year ago. I'm reading about them rn and it seems like they've found a loophole in gambling laws because they make you draft a team (game of skill) rather than just betting on the outcome of individual games. I'm gonna have to see how that works, I've been wanting to get into baseball stats for a while but can't summon any interest in just watching games alone

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>>19418867
Free insurance claim, bullish, AAPL opens Monday Green.

>> No.19418887

>>19417479

If Biden wins I'm liquidating all my US investments. As of rn, about 5.5k dollaroos. Not much but I'm a student so my econ is not the best.

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>>19418869
>>19418869
>>19418869

lets play

https://lichess.org/AEB7f3i7

>> No.19418904

>>19417535

stonks only go up.

>> No.19418911

>>19417479
>Biden wins
Buy TQQQ
>Trump wins
Buy TQQQ

TQQQ cares not for if the boomer with dementia in the WH is orange or not.

>> No.19418938

>>19418873
>been wanting to get into baseball stats for a while but can't summon any interest in just watching games alone

I'm on the same boat as you. Watching sports with no monetary investment in your team is fucking boring. The only sporting event I ever watch is march madness because I usually do a lot of research on the teams and gamble a pretty sizable amount of money.

>> No.19418949

>>19417391
If the market cared about violent nigs, it would have crashed decades ago

>> No.19418958

>Merimuts chimping out again
Bullish for monday

>> No.19418959

>>19417658

Markets are up in Europe as well and we don't have Jerome. Just accept that you don't understand anything about finance and go long like the rest of us.
All bobos think "news bad, time to short" if it was that easy then everyone would be a millionaire.

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>>19417479

I'm thinking we'll get sleepy Joe in the White House. I voted for Hilary in 2016 but wasn't bothered when Dormpf won. After 4 years of liberals/leftists shooting themselves in the dick and then crying "DRRRRuMPFFF!!!" I'm just so fucking sick and tired of it. I'd prefer 4 more years of Trump at this point, just to spite that type of person. I know Democrats are "Americans" too, but I'm ready for a Civil War at this point and I know they are too. Let's just get another term of Trump and edge us closer to the inevitable.

The leftist/liberal snarky selfish holier-than-thou attitude is insufferable and honestly I think it's worth fighting against. Conservatives are armed to the teeth in this country, and I'm almost positive the military/police lean conservative, so I'd bet on a Conservative win in the pending Civil War.

Anyways, I think Biden will win this time around but I personally voted for Shilary in 2016 and am voting for Drumpf this year. /blog

>> No.19418986

>>19418959
>All bobos think "news bad, time to short" if it was that easy then everyone would be a millionaire.

Spot on, and love hearing a foreigner's analysis. People really thought it was going to be easy to time the market. Some folks never learn

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>>19418867
>JPM

>> No.19419005

>>19417313
Elon Musk is worth a hundred billion trillion dollars and the best he can do is that no talent goblin grimes while broke ass hobos with six packs fuck 10/10 thots on the daily, puts on being rich, calls on being attractive

>> No.19419010
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>>19418994
>>19418867

Damn, we're gonna have to start bringing back armed militia/private police forces since the police are getting cucked by politicians. Would be kind of based to see some militia put bullets in the skulls of larping antifas/joggers trying to loot some local business

>> No.19419020

This reopening sounds like it's gonna do pretty well huh

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am I gonna make it?

>> No.19419144

>>19419127
Why did you buy tesla so high and just 1?

>> No.19419147

>>19419020
Imagine the US in 2 weeks (◍•ᴗ•◍)

>> No.19419162

>>19419127
>smallcap biomemes
Get out as soon as you hit some green

>> No.19419164

>>19419144
For the meme. And I feel like it has that x5 potential

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>>19419020
>reopening

niggers are out throwing bricks through windows and spitting on cops and the media is supporting it, you're stuck on like 5 week old news cycles buddy

there's no "reopening", it was all a meme that you apparently fell for. Nobody cares anymore. Reopening LMAO. Where the fuck have you been

>> No.19419184

>>19419164
I still regret I didn't buy it at 2xx. I'm German and thought if I'm gonna invest in car companies, it has to be German companies. So I went with BMW instead of Tesla that time.

>> No.19419221

>>19418465
Agreed. That's more or less what I was driving at: what retail does is typically insignificant when compared to what the larger players are doing, and they've been following the Fed liquidity injections. Asset Managers/Institutionals having likely contributed to a majority of the long positioning makes sense if we consider that that category covers pension funds, mutual funds, endowments, etc. In that same vein, leveraged (hedge) funds being net short isn't too surprising either. Since there's no breakdown of the reportable classifications into large or small spec, my thinking is that there's a significant amount of large spec short interest being compounded by large specs who are net long but simultaneously hold some hedges, thus contributing to the net short positioning. Their contributing category likely follows the above examples. It's an interesting tug of war between large specs having no other avenue for returns but also distrusting the extent of the rally and the capability of Fed liquidity injections to sustain it in the long run. That later part is underscored by the decrease in total asset purchases week-over-week by the Fed, meaning the tap is slowly tapering. It's a shame that they don't break down large and small spec by category, as it would provide a much clearer picture. That's why the other thread had 'Who Is Buying?" in it and as the image title, because the above still doesn't paint a clear picture of where the small spec fits in, as Other Report, where one might expect small spec to reside, is also net short.

>>19418491
>>19418592
Asset Managers/Institutional is one lumped category within the COT TFF. It would probably be safe to say they're large spec.

>>19418959
Central banks across the globe are printing at record rates, and attempting to implement additional easing policies beyond what they have in the past. Their equity markets are following a similar pattern to the US, just not to the same extent/magnitude.

>> No.19419233

>>19419147
So many dead niggers, I love it. What better specimen to make example of.

>> No.19419292

>>19418837
The Fed has been tapering since the very first week of intervention in March, and it appears as if the market correlation to that is significant. Their next planned new/major intervention is the Main Street lending program. But that's for businesses that don't have access to the typical markets the Fed has been supporting, so it may not have an impact on equities. As such, if everyone's simply been following Fed liquidity, but that's now tapering off, is the momentum we see now sufficient for continued upside? It seems uncertain, considering the last two weeks have seen something around <1% returns throughout the week, and a 2% or so return from the gap up at the start of the week, i.e., outside of market hours.

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Sometimes this board scares me

>> No.19419643

>>19419632
detached-from-reality-wannabe-hardcore-NEETs

>> No.19419647

>>19419632
Bruh

>> No.19419673

>>19419632
tvix 800 soon?

>> No.19419676

>>19419632
is this confirmed?

>> No.19419719

>>19419676
>>/biz/thread/S19105455#p19105515

>> No.19419722
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POST YOUR SICK GAINS TODAY BOYS.

>> No.19419787

Thanks for posting this. I reached out to gently check in w/ my black friends, loved ones, ig followers, coworkers, and so on. Respect their beliefs, boundaries, and wants/needs. If you don’t know any black people to start a conversation with, you seriously need to ask yourself or another white person why, bc you are part of the problem. Also- give your money to black people for whatever they want to spend it on. If you are white, give up anything for a black person you know. I’m currently looking for a new job bc I cannot tolerate the inaction of my employer right now. Read a book on white supremacy, and make sure you buy it from a black author. Get involved in community events that teach deescalation instead of calling the cops. Do the emotional labor yourself and with other white people!!! Realize the history you were taught is a lie and the land you live on is stolen. Abolish systems of labor and control. Ask me questions.

>> No.19419820

>>19419676
Anon it's not unusual for people with vix positions to wish for chaos of some kind. Posts like that are at least a semi daily occurrence here.

>> No.19419830

>>19419787
Go away.

>> No.19419850

>>19419830
Thanks for posting this. I reached out to gently check in w/ my black friends, loved ones, ig followers, coworkers, and so on. Respect their beliefs, boundaries, and wants/needs. If you don’t know any black people to start a conversation with, you seriously need to ask yourself or another white person why, bc you are part of the problem. Also- give your money to black people for whatever they want to spend it on. If you are white, give up anything for a black person you know. I’m currently looking for a new job bc I cannot tolerate the inaction of my employer right now. Read a book on white supremacy, and make sure you buy it from a black author. Get involved in community events that teach deescalation instead of calling the cops. Do the emotional labor yourself and with other white people!!! Realize the history you were taught is a lie and the land you live on is stolen. Abolish systems of labor and control. Ask me questions.

>> No.19419983

>>19418994
>CAT

https://twitter.com/1mikedee/status/1266624465200312321

>> No.19420120

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2qC8JkKhBg
Even the master chink makes mistakes.

>> No.19420210

>>19417391
Meh, it might affect earnings a little, just slap another 0 on the PE ratio so stocks like SHOP will be at 20,000, its all good stonks only go up.

>> No.19420232

>>19417857
Corporate earnings have been flat to negative for half a decade. Rising stock prices are not sustainable. Eventually fundamentals will be cause for the rug pull of the century. Don't get too comfy.

>> No.19420304

>>19420232
nobody will ever pull any rugs

>> No.19420317

>>19420232
the closest you will ever get to a "rug pull" will be an overreaction to an unfortunate event

>> No.19420335

>>19417479
20 Donald Trump
24 Adam Schiff
28 Ivanka Trump
32 Ivanka Trump

>> No.19420357

Reminder that the best ROI is for firms to buy back their own shares with loans.
>>19420232
What if....we print corporate earnings

>> No.19420367

>>19420317
The only reason the market would ever go down is if the FED stops pumping it. If they ever stop pumping it, expect it to go straight down because there is no reason to buy stocks unless the FED is pumping it. So markets have 2 directions now, either straight up or straight down, depending on FED pumps.

>> No.19420545

can someone give a brainlet a rundown on cloudflare?

>> No.19420558

>>19420545
Don’t waste your money. Chink Sanctions will ruin it.

>> No.19420670
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>>19420558
why's that?

>> No.19420703

>>19420670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6PvMZy3BxI
croc btfo

>> No.19420709

>>19420335
36 Yair Netanyahu

>> No.19420770

>>19420367
Explain this. How?

>> No.19420785

>>19419184
>So I went with BMW
eheheeheheeh

>> No.19420971

>>19420335
No
>2024 onwards
Elon Musk
The entire GDP of the US economy flows through TSLA. Instead of a return to a gold standard, (fractional) TSLA shares become the currency of the land

>> No.19421069

How fucked are you if you have 90k in SPY?

>> No.19421077

How do you guys feel about US listed Chinese companies like LK and NIO for the near future?

>> No.19421089

>>19421069
Long or short?

>>19421077
Fucked and delisted.

>> No.19421129

>>19421089
I saw NIO pumped and ended with a lot of green candles yesterday though wonder why

>> No.19421166
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19421166

stocks of the past
stocks of the present
stocks of the future

>> No.19421186
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>>19421166
>marry a key into asia
best investment

>> No.19421249
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>>19421186
I don't speak asian and I've never had a gf
;^)

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>>19418969
>The leftist/liberal snarky selfish holier-than-thou attitude is insufferable
every time i tell my leftist friends that they're putting Trump in for a second term with their behavior, the autistic screeching is through the roof

>> No.19421275

>>19421089
long

>> No.19421279

After your investing career is over, what are you supposed to do regarding retirement? I surely can't be gambling on Tesla options at age 67. What's the setup?

>> No.19421287

>>19417542
cunny always welcome

>> No.19421377
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HTGC

>> No.19421398

>>19421250
god i hope bull run + trump wins in 2020
it'll be an amazing year

>> No.19421422

So really, when is the next crash going to be? I've told time and time again by Bobo it's nest week, it's Monday, it's Friday, it's April, it's may.

So will it ever go lower than the low point in March?

>> No.19421445

How fucking retarded do you have to be to steal modern cars and computers that are all connected to the internet, serialized, and trackable?

>> No.19421462

>>19421422
If anyone here knew, they'd be living the dream and retire early. No one knows man. I'm betting on end of July/August since that's when they have to pay 3 months of rent all at once or get kicked out. This is assuming there is a second leg down.

>> No.19421473

>>19421445
Ask the nignogs that are stealing from dealerships that.

>> No.19421512

>USA burning down
Next week will be record bull if this year has shown us anything

>> No.19421594

>>19421445
Very

>> No.19421620

>>19421512
Dark pool buying made a new ATH on Friday so it looks that way.

>> No.19421643

>>19421398
This, watching USA collapse into chaos is both funny as hell and bullish for the free world

>> No.19421655

>>19421445
They don't think so far ahead.

>> No.19422048
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What we saying about AAXN this week?

>> No.19422050

>>19417298
based

>> No.19422107

>>19421643
>with the us in shambles china leads the world into a new era
We need this now

>> No.19422139

>>19422107
>we
It's deader than usual this weekend. Is everyone just watching the chimpout to pass the time?

>> No.19422186

>>19417285
Guys, what do you think about my new stock market theory? Line goes only up, no matter what.

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>>19417345
Go back to pol Russian parrot troll

>> No.19422265

>>19422139
Nothing interesting to talk about right now, the bulls are moderating because of the riots, bears have been either knocked out trying to time the dip or sitting on the sidelines. Fwiw, I anticipate a slight downward crab, but nothing strong enough to take a position on. In times like these best bet is to pick your winners and hold.

>> No.19422301

>>19422107
The chinks can barely keep themselves going. If I wanted the world to survive on plastic rice I would kek.

>>19422217
Nigger.

>>19418994
Wtf there are barely any niggers up in Portland Oregon.

>>19418639
>>19418616
Kek, I love how it's only blue states with blue cities with blue police chiefs and mayors where shit like this happen. Once again progressives destroying themselves.

>> No.19422330

>>19421620
Look at how quickly the DIX spikes and then drops. For example, it hit 51.2% on April 15th and then dropped to 46.4% the very next trading day. It's also difficult to tell the correlation between those spikes and the magnitude and direction of market movement immediately following. In some cases we see dark pool buying in troughs, and others at a peak just before a trough, but in both cases there is a local maximum (peak) on the DIX.

>>19420367
The Fed is gradually tapering - just keep an eye on their balance sheet. As they taper, there appears to be somewhat of a lagging correlation with relative market movement. This past week saw the smallest weekly change in total assets on the Fed balance sheet since they began intervention in March.

>>19422265
Being flexible is also important.

>> No.19422355

>>19417313
Based desu
People with will actually put their effort into inventing something, people with no real ambitions but a guilt over stalling their progress in life take on vague "self-improvement" projects like fitness that they can pretend is progress
You should exercise because it's fun and invigorating, not because you think it's step 1 of 999 to becoming a superhuman

>> No.19422465

ET trimming 6% of workers makes me more bullish

>> No.19422481

I can't wait for the tech stocks to just shit.. Meanwhile those who invested in value stocks now (oil/airlines,etc) will be safe from the shit storm cause all the bad shit will already be baked into them for lack a better word.

>> No.19422498

>>19417442
No but the videos would be fun watching all those kids getting body by white house securities

>> No.19422557

>>19422481
hmmmm
that's an interesting opinion

>> No.19422573

>>19422481
I'm an asshole, but I don't intentionally try to encourage people to lose money

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>>19422481
>they keep saying nearly 11 years later

>> No.19422588

>>19422481
You do know that those value stocks are the major consumers of tech stocks right

>> No.19422742

>>19422580
I fucking missed the dividend for $O by thinking you could get it when buying on the ex-dividend date

>> No.19422764

>>19422742
it's monthly anyway, no sweat

>> No.19422776

>>19422742
kek, you gotta bag it a day before the ex-div date to allow it to settle..

>> No.19422795

Call me retarded, but my porfolio is 100% Shopify, Tesla and Draftking. Made so much money the past few weeks.

>> No.19422839

>>19422795
>all tech
No shit. All sectors are fucking garbage except tech unless they are combined with it. Like payment services.

>> No.19422908

I like this time of year. lower utility bills due to less electric and natural gas usage. More green in my pocket. Fall's the other time.. Although thanks to the virus I've been saving lots of green already. (the govt check was a nice bonus). Can't wait for the next check. They're working on the last bill now. Pass it next month. So july maybe is when the checks will roll out.

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imagine visiting /smg/ and losing money in the stock market while people are literally taking $5000 handbags for free

>> No.19422939

>>19422921
I can hate but I'd do this given the opportunity

>> No.19423000

If Space X pulls it off we will seen Tesla moon

>> No.19423005

>>19422939
eventually justice will catch up. if the state ever recovers which is unlikely. After the london riots a few thousand people were arrested

>> No.19423042

>>19422921
>recording while stealing everything

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AR anon, back again. Might be a really good idea to be holding AR stocks by June 3. Just saying.

>> No.19423050

>>19423005
>After the london riots a few thousand people were arrested
Probably because they were too retarded to wear masks, gloves or both.

>> No.19423051

So what was the point of destroying the US economy because of COVID if a single black dude getting killed was all it took to make literally everyone forget about it?

>> No.19423082

>>19422908
Will trumpbux 2 push the market higher?

>> No.19423093

>>19423051
NESARA

>> No.19423141

>>19417535
even if the whole world goes up in flames, but the money printing machine is still left unscathed, markets will go up.

>> No.19423142

>>19418166
Good.

>> No.19423160

>>19423051
tax abolition

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Do we short insurance companies or reinsurers?

>> No.19423181

>>19423160
It could very well be the opposite.

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>>19423043
https://www.ps5playstation5.com/2-consoles-and-vr-portability/

Tired of giving you suckas game for free. But I love ya bros. I just want us all to make it. Read this article. Sonys clearly going to show off AR tech during this presentation and interest in AR tech (and stocks) is going to explode.

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19423203

did the burger man ever recover from this?

>> No.19423213

Bought jnug at 85 sold at 98 bought AAL at 10.50 feeling like a rock star

>> No.19423229

>>19423203
share dilution from shit bank
Other banks have done much better

>> No.19423256 [DELETED] 

>>19423050
do you expect niggers to be smarter then bongs?

>> No.19423271

>>19423043
>future of gaming
>has wii in the background
Be right back, putting in orders for more NTDOY on Monday.

>> No.19423280

>>19423043
I bet the violent riots stop this day.
Everyone wants to see what the PS5 looks like.

>> No.19423281

>>19423181
in your timeline maybe
we're splitting timeline here

>> No.19423322

i only have $1000 to spend. can i realistically only make a few hundred dollars short-term if i buy successful call options?

>> No.19423352

>>19423322
All in TQQQ or maybe sell SPY calls

>> No.19423374

>>19423322
might as well wire it directly to market makers

>> No.19423457

>>19423322
people have turned 1k into 10+k on successful option plays but admittedly they were very lucky

>> No.19423486

>>19423322
You can make millions short term, the chance of that happening is pretty much 0 though

>> No.19423495

>>19423322
$26 SLV calls exp sept 18

>> No.19423503

>>19423051
to prevent a new unknown disease from overwhelming healthcare

>> No.19423507

>>19423457
i'm not expecting to make crazy money, but making ~$400 every two weeks would be pretty great.

>> No.19423555

>>19423051
The point was to blow up the economy.

Pussycoof was just the excuse.

>> No.19423564

>>19423507
40% every two weeks is insanity.

>> No.19423620

>>19423564
we live in crazy times. and i got dubs

>> No.19423640

>>19423322
Hundred dollars short term? High beta stocks. Might as well buy any meme stock with over 100 p/e.
If you want to be SURE you don't all everything just diversify. S&P etf's when they get cheap and divvy etf's

>> No.19423645

>>19423271
Do you even stock photos?

>> No.19423680

i have a few questions about buying call options.
do you agree to buy a stock at the strike price and then sell the stock at it's improved price?

are there any places where i don't actually have to buy the stock and i can just pocket the change?

>>19423640
yeah i can realistically only make 100 dollars in such a short time frame. i thought about buying call options for bitcoin and if i did i would have only made $100. it's okay but i can't live on $100 a week. plus that would have been kinda lucky

>> No.19423684

>>19423620
N... No you didn't

You're going to lose all of your money by being impatient.

If you want to consistently make $200/wk, the first step is to accept that it isn't going to happen for a while.

Learn wtf you are doing and learn to do it long term.

If there were a way to consistently make 40% in two weeks, everybody in the stock market would be a trillionaire.

>> No.19423716

>>19423680
Godspeed anon. You will probably lose that money.

>> No.19423739

>>19423680
deep itm calls

>> No.19423746

So how's aftermarket looking so far? Was I right to keep holding my NAIL?

>> No.19423763

>>19423746
NAIL does awesome after market

I spent all day Thursday and Friday averaging down and increasing my shares. The next push up is going to be amazing

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>>19423746

>> No.19423781

since i see no PTG in the catalog : SHRM and NUMI shills, how is it going?

>> No.19423817

>>19423716
why do you say that? i'm still nowhere near confident enough to start putting my money where my mouth is

>> No.19423831

>>19423781
you can thank all the shitcoin threads that plagues 99% of this board.

>> No.19423834

>>19423680
you dont have to buy the stock. you have an "option" to do so if you want. you can just buy and sell the option and never exercise it which is what most autists do.

>> No.19423838

>>19423817
happened to me in my demo account.
I suggest trying a demo account too.

>> No.19423842

>>19423763
>>19423777
Based
>>19423781
I have some SHRMF, last I knew it was down 10% but it swings like 20% per day, anyone lucky enough to call it could get rich, I'm just holding for long term though

>> No.19423878

OCGN, trust me fellas, you’re welcome :)

>> No.19423899

>>19423834
right, so pocket the change basically. couldn't you in theory buy way more than $1000 worth of shares? as long as the premiums or whatever cost $1000?

>> No.19423900

>>19423878
thanks, just bought 100k

>> No.19423904

>>19423878
Thanks
Right away or wait for Tuesday slump?
And is it to hold or flip?

>> No.19423949

The media is pushing national id back to racism/blm. This is very bullish as it's a better consumer environment than the insane fear they tried to create around covid. They pivoted after reopen failed to cause more deaths as they wanted.

This is bullish for consumer activity as the fear recedes from the mob's mind.

>> No.19423953

>>19423904
I can only show you the door my brother

>> No.19423988

>>19423953
Seems legit
Can I at least inquire why it dumped in October?

>> No.19424000

>>19423899
yes thats the appeal of options. its the immense leverage they bring. but if you want to execute the option you will need to have enough money to actually buy the shares. so if you had $850 call options on TSLA you would have to actually have the $85,000 if you wanted to execute and buy the 100 shares.

>> No.19424004

>>19423878
OCGN is shite, whats up?

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>>19423953
Gonna need more than that with something that's got a chart like this, founded by those names even if it is in PA.

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>>19419632

>> No.19424059

>>19424000
do exchanges need proof you can actually execute the option before you can buy them? like do they need collateral or whatever

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>>19421422
>So will it ever go lower than the low point in March
No, if you didn't buy in March and early April you missed the dip

It will dip again in July, but I doubt it will go lower than where it is now

>> No.19424097

>>19424059
You're going to lose your money

>> No.19424123

>>19424081
banks and airlines went lower in may than they have been in march

>> No.19424124

>>19424059
no the broker will simply not let you execute it if you cant. you actually have to call them to execute and at that point they would check your account and tell you that you dont have enough money to do so.

>> No.19424128

>>19417298
Terrible.

>> No.19424166

>>19424059
Depends on the broker. Most would liquidate the option before expiry for you.
https://www.optionseducation.org/referencelibrary/faq/options-exercise

>> No.19424167

>>19417394
>the bottom

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>>19423503
>He thinks the lockdowns were to stop COVID from spreading
Smooth brain detected

Lemme give you a hint, everything is politics always

>> No.19424177

>>19424123
All good to me (bought WFC & DAL in may)

>> No.19424192

>>19424124
right, so the profit comes from just selling them at higher premiums?

>> No.19424202

If there hadn't been a flash sale on a bunch of these sectors would you have bought into them at some point?

>> No.19424214

>>19417535
Lmao

>> No.19424215

>>19424192
A better question to ask is what has to happen for you to make the kind of money you are after and what happens to your money if Donald Trump decides to tweet the wrong thing at the right time.

>> No.19424231

>>19424202
which sectors do you mean?
defense stocks were relatively cheap on Friday, so I was buying them

>> No.19424232

>>19424202
Complete list of sectors worth anything:
Tech

>> No.19424248

TSLA pump or dump day.

>> No.19424251

>>19424170
Of course it's politics in the sense that as a politician, if you're presented with unknown risks from an extremely infectious new virus, then you're going to mitigate liability and risk to your administration. That is on top of serving your constituency by mitigating the risk, to the maximum extent possible, of over running the healthcare system and protecting citizens from unknown longer-term health risks.

>>19424202
Equity valuations were already high before the fire sale in March, and there were underlying issues that could have resulted in a fire sale regardless of the trigger. I had been rotating out as a response, so no, not to the same extent. That said, cashgang again, as we still have unresolved issues.

>> No.19424273

>hitler youth trending on twatter with 32k tweets
https://twitter.com/CDRosa/status/1266637931143483393

i-is this priced in? is it bullish. pee pee poo poo

>> No.19424320

>>19424316
>>19424316
>>19424316

>>19424316
>>19424316
>>19424316

>>19424316
>>19424316
>>19424316

new thread

>>19424316
>>19424316
>>19424316

>>19424316
>>19424316
>>19424316

>>19424316
>>19424316
>>19424316

>> No.19424333

>>19424248
it's a boom boom day for spacex
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1266451354861686784

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>>19422050
>>19424128
I do it for free, happy Saturday

>> No.19424543

>>19424192
yes the profit - or the loss. never forget these are risky and you can lose your entire investment amount.

>> No.19424933

>>19422921
>free sponsors for instagrammers
It’s 2020 obviously