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>> No.19650614
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>> No.19650619

>he isn't loading up on SQQQ

>> No.19650625
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Anyone buying AMPY right now while it's balls cheap? Hoping to hold it long with some other energy companies and see a 2x or 3x this year

>> No.19650628

there's nothing wrong with dividend stocks

>> No.19650631

i have been telling you guys for like 6 months to buy and sell this shit.

>> No.19650640
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This shits gonna print so hard tomorrow

>> No.19650643
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I'm going to lose a bigger % than you. Just sack up and take it like a man.

>> No.19650652
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It's the only cope I have left.

>> No.19650656

they all employ niggers in one way or another. there are things wrong with all companies... there's not a single perfect company.

>> No.19650663

the last 3 months touching SQQQ was pants on head retarded. Nasdaq is at its height while the rest of the market crabs. A correction is nigh

>> No.19650671

publicly traded company... there are private companies that are perfect at what their goals are for their business and customers.

>> No.19650678

Oh nice this tripshit is drunk, big league miss me with this thread rn

>> No.19650682

Starting to think I should've sold when zoomers started calling Boomer San a fag on twitter for missing the bottom. Guess I'll have to hold till 2022 now and maybe accumulate some cheapies on the way down...

>> No.19650693

that's not true, you had opportunities.. not many but there was a good chance back in mid march to grab ahold.

>> No.19650703

i might have had a dozen beers, but im not that drunk... look at you, you're on the trade with me shorrting nasdaq.

>> No.19650710

What are the legit oil stocks to be watching? Dont just say KOS

>> No.19650723

You lost money shorting nasdaq during the money printer. Im shorting nasdaq at the bubble pop. Dont think we are the same, I was a bear from march 22 til june 9th

>> No.19650729


look below. they are good stocks to keep your eye on. i'm not claiming you should buy them.


>> No.19650732

*was a bull

>> No.19650748

sqqq is pretty heckin' hard to make gains from because it tanks every single time amzn or aapl are up 0.5% or more. you would need to time your trade perfectly on the rare days that those two fuckers are down a little bit.

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The ones that aren't going to go bankrupt.

>> No.19650775

Time to do a civic duty
Suppose 2x i.e. $2 - $4
October 19th, 2020 2.5c for 0.5
Total cost of call: $50
Underlying costs of 100 shares of Ampy now: $200
Total capital cost of call/buying underlying: 25%

Price point to be in the money with call: 2.5
Maximum loss of buying underlying: unknown
Capital holdup on October 19th: unknown
Maximum loss of call: $50
Capital holdup on October 19th: None

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bought too high on a lot of these but oh well...what should I do going forward? sit on all this?

>> No.19650777

Is WFC done for? No interest for two years is no bueno right?

>> No.19650781

Threw a large chunk at tvix today. Have a good feeling about tomorrow.

>> No.19650783

Don't catch the knife, mate.

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>> No.19650806

Amazon, Apple, Tesla, Microsoft. They are all due for a correction they cannot be at their ATH with their sales in the toilet. If SQQQ isnt 12 dollars a share by monday morning I will

Who the fuck am I kidding, SQQQ will be 6 dollars a share tomorrow

>> No.19650817

I have wellsfargo.. and honestly never really use them.. my business accounts at other places I just transfer the money to my crypto.com card and spend from there... I think out of most banks Wellsfargo is one of the best though.. just don't see banks doing well when there are so many cash managing apps and crypto putting their foot in the door

>> No.19650839

How bout PLUG

>> No.19650846

All those are worth researching? Anything additional?

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>>Who the fuck am I kidding, SQQQ will be 6 dollars a share tomorrow
Who the hell is pumping NASDAQ? And don't tell me "dumb money." Robinhoodies have little effect on prices. You can check out the charts here:

*You* will still pay interest on *your* mortgage.

>> No.19650859

just get a decent oil ETF

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>Who the fuck am I kidding, SQQQ will be 6 dollars a share tomorrow
Please no. I have so much money ridding on NASDAQ crashing.

>> No.19650861

>zoom at 220
Please tell me that shorts pumped it

>> No.19650868

I have HUC on TSX. It fairly closely tracks next december oil futures.

>> No.19650871

I do too, but Nasdaq go brrrrrrr

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stocks only go down now

>> No.19650880

What's gonna happen to my GRUB?

They just got bought by some company in Amsterdam

>> No.19650882

Dropping out of TSLA, putting all of it on MGM. Am I retarded?

>> No.19650883

>They are all due for a correction
based on what? gut feeling? wishful thinking?
they've only just touched into overbought territory today. And historically, confidence was incredibly high in this that they can stayed in overbought territory for weeks

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yooooo these futures holy shit lol

>> No.19650889

I bought higher on some and I'm sitting. It hurts but I can't admit defeat yet

>> No.19650894

I should have seen this fucking rotation back into tech on Monday and sold all my positions, grabbed SPY puts, and went into literally any tech stock. I even thought about getting TSLA calls and decided against it. Mother fucker.
Now I'm bag holding every bag there is to hold. REITs, travel and airlines, and banks. God fucking damn it.

>> No.19650898

Don't rope MSFT and AAPL with AMZN and TSLA

>> No.19650900

holy shit lol
do you just FOMO into literally everything in your watchlist

>> No.19650916

This might as well be a /biz/ index and there is money to be made shorting literally all of it

>> No.19650918

NIO spike soon methink

>> No.19650926

Same as they are every night this time

>> No.19650933

why am I dyslexic?
>they've only just touched into overbought territory today
Nigger, what? This shit was considered overbought when times were good.
Great, no?

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God fucking dammit Jerome.

>> No.19650947

If you haven't learned by now to always keep some TSLA as an investment, you're hopeless.

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Great meme portfolio.

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Stocks only go down?

>> No.19650961

futures are going to hit -1.0%
fucking hell
the day of the bear has come

>> No.19650971

Jerome could of said 1 little scrap and sent us into bull market. He didn’t offer anything much really just more of the same.

>> No.19650975

kek good god man

>> No.19650982

your first mistake was going all in for a day you should probably put some into cash and slowly and incrementally buy up the stocks you want at reasonable prices then look away for 3 years.

>> No.19650998

>Jerome could of said 1 little scrap and sent us into bull market.
Reading between the lines it was "welp, we don't know what else we can do and things are probably fucked until 2023".

>> No.19651001

They need to do several splits. What ever happened to the concept of splitting your stock so that the common man can afford to buy shares? Companies used to split once their stock price hit 100, that just went out the window at some point. I'm surprised Elon, who champions retail investors, has not split his stock several times by now.

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Uh... guys... I was told stonks only go up...
This is a temporary thing right, certainly not the start of the great decline... right???

>> No.19651018

What did Jerome say that crashed the market?

T. TVIX chad

>> No.19651024

what the fuck is futures

is it just options shit? if so dont reply

>> No.19651026

t. fag in banking for years both on retail side and ops side
We generate most of our income from loan fees. 0% interest draws in more loans = more fees = more revs. We will take loans over deposit accounts any day of the week.
Only a tard or a 95 year old would have money stashed in a savings account outside of an emergency fund anyway. That is not a bank's primary source of revenue.

>> No.19651028

you can take solace in the fact that i don't even believe you exist. that's right. i have a solipsistic worldview. so your losses mean nothing to me and my losses mean everything to me. and vice versa if you share this view. i don't even see your face or feel the sorrow you must feel from your red portfolio. now try to see yourself from my viewpoint and you'll feel a little better. also, if you didn't sell yet then you didn't lose anything. you're just psyching yourself out by constantly checking your portfolio. just fucking sign out and go do something else. go relax.

>> No.19651031

You have divs to fall back on, right?
I heard it was something about racism.

>> No.19651034

A lot of the psychological buy pressure comes from the price rising over time from really dumb retail investors. It is often the case in this general that someone posts a chart from a stock with multiple stock splits and goes "WTF HAPPENED HERE?????"

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Holy shit those futures.
How long has it been since both S&P and DJ have been down 1%. Tomorrow is gonna be blood red. Who's ready?

>> No.19651040

second crash mate, told yall it was happening this week

>> No.19651044

he wants us to spend money on black business and combat racism. Every investor knows thats wasted money right there.

>> No.19651057

After swinging his dick around about "endless QE" and "more weapons at our disposal" for months and pumping this shit to insanity, he told his friends & family to get into shorts/puts and came out like a stuttering retard.
He played us like a damn fiddle.

>> No.19651060

hes said the fed will keep doing what its doing, but that the market is fucked.
i think these people wanted to hear, "WE'LL DOUBLE THE STIMULUS AND MAKE INTEREST RATES NEGATIVE" or some shit. we're in the euphoric stage of the bubble. anything Jerome said would be considered disappointing at this point

>> No.19651061

I'm sitting on 100k cash so idgaf about this red desu. If all these go back to even half of pre covid levels, I'll be golden. retard strength slav hands.

>> No.19651063

It's true, but in reality it makes for such an unattractive investment on top of things. I threw about 2500 at some stocks and made 2K; if I put it into TSLA I would have made like 2 or 3 hundred bucks because I'd only have 2 shares.

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>> No.19651077

Jesus, smallcap is diving. There's no saving this tonight.

>> No.19651079

>What ever happened to the concept of splitting your stock so that the common man can afford to buy shares?
Fractional shares have made it irrelevant. TSLA may benefit from the high price because most people don't understand market capitalization and will think 'wow, these shares must be really valuable if so many people are willing to pay that much'. It's similar to Berkshire Hathaway or maybe Amazon.

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want a non meme? PAA
now watch this shit moon because this shit was now memed here

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>> No.19651095

I'm upset I still bought SPY calls at the dip instead of at least one SPY put.
That's why this last two days hurt. Yesterday was a solid dip. So I bought it. Then today was even more, and I had nothing left to buy the dip, though I managed to move a bit of money around and get some SPY calls... only for SPY to keep dumping.
You get it drilled into your head to buy the fucking dip, and then it dips and you buy, only for it to dip more and fuck you.

>> No.19651096

There would be incentive to do it if they offered dividends like MSFT or AAPL even if they were pittances. Then the yield would "jump" by doing a stock split.
But Bezos is never going to let non-billionaire trash touch his earnings and TSLA doesn't have profits to actually GIVE.

>> No.19651097

Plz no bully but idk what that means

>> No.19651098

RAZ now rules /smg/, surrender the anime thots!!

>> No.19651101


It's stocks. Imagine it's a bit like buying stocks, except when usually you can't buy stocks. If you'd like a more in depth explanation try investopedia

>> No.19651104

tsla isn't part of QQQ holdings:

look at the two biggest ones. that's why QQQ almost never goes down.

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your stupid hippie protectorate will be removed within the week

>> No.19651118

Should I buy a random chink stock at 10 dollars a piece
And hope it moons to 100

>> No.19651122

anyone else remember that anon demanding to know why Chipotle was worth 5x as much as Microsoft?
and all attempts to explain it to him failed.

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>> No.19651131

depends on how big your balls are and which one

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>> No.19651137

if only i had bought SRTY calls instead of SQQQ calls...blunder of the month right there.

>> No.19651139


lets get rich together anon.

>> No.19651143

I think i think im-im gonnnaaaa BUYYYYYYYYYYY

>> No.19651144

What happened was I posted my investment strategy for retards who missed the bottom (me) and they are trying to shake me out now.

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>> No.19651148

also IVR is the only one that really has potential to burn me... could dip on it if it gets back close to my buy price and take a minimal loss

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Was I stupid for buying into GUSH

>> No.19651156

Okay I have to say, China zoomers seem a little less retarded than western zoomers. Still retarded but noticeably less.

>> No.19651157

>if I put it into TSLA I would have made like 2 or 3 hundred bucks because I'd only have 2 shares.
Huh? It would have doubled or nearly tripled in value if you bought two or three months ago. I've made nearly 8x off TSLA in a little over a year, thanks to good timing and corona virus.

>> No.19651160

eh don't worry Made 12k in two days on meme stocks Friday and Monday then lost 8k on Tues and Wends.


>> No.19651163

My calls are going to get destroyed tomorrow

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I’m thinking about uninstalling app and just walking away. I have DRIP on. I don’t care anymore. Let it burn.

>> No.19651175

Leveraged commodity ETFs exist to bleed retail and nothing else.

>> No.19651206

What's the joke? Because this has nearly recovered already?

>> No.19651209

If I dump 50 bucks into one at 10 bucks each I can make 500 bucks

>> No.19651211

yeah guess its time to buy another house in August?

>> No.19651215

>all this shit was memed on /smg/
>bought them at their highs
guys we need a FOMO intervention or something. the amount of people in /smg/ who FOMO is too damn high.

>> No.19651219

Retarded, not stupid

>> No.19651222
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Thank you Tim Apple

>> No.19651249

me because i literally sold everything but 66k doge coin I have had forever

>> No.19651255

Lol. Maybe learn to read the market instead.

>> No.19651261

If stocks start falling, senators will just start talking about another stimulus bill and we’ll rally. Heads, bulls win. Tails, bears lose.

>> No.19651274

Anyone buying a "2X MINIMUM" should be buying calls. If the expiration dates seem like they aren't going far enough then WHY would you buy this now. You tie up captial and all of this backend risk just to avoid a premium?

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Read that ditching intel may net Apple $2B / yr. Over 10 years and a 30x multiple, that might add 600B in value

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>> No.19651285

I wish there was a way beyond the notes to tell who is memeing or shilling and who genuinely believes and why. Its be cool to have an introductory with so many new folks like me that could use genuine tips. I've been up 50% and couldve made 4k on boeing (separate events in the past 8 weeks) but got cold feet. And instead I've made 20% and will be paying short term tax rates

>> No.19651287

ah yes the american miracle

>> No.19651291

Truly the signs of a healthy recovery

>> No.19651297

this is not advice, but this is what i would do:
dump nkla, aal and half of coty, average down into ssl and mitt

>> No.19651318

What's the longest you should hold calls for?

>> No.19651328

Fuck is it time to go all in on puts? I think all my calls are dead.

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u pay more for longer calls i buy short calls i look for the bargains dude

>> No.19651358

What changed for you? Nasdaq ath?

>> No.19651361

Man, I literally put in an order to buy MGM at 3:58, market closed one penny above my buy in price. I was so fucking annoyed when it happened but holy shit am I happy now. Why are stocks going down? The fed going to turn off the printer?

>> No.19651364

check out PTON 45p 6/19

>> No.19651365

wtf is Jiayin Group and why did it rise and fall 400% in one day, please tell me you bought this.

>> No.19651369

You learn the greeks. Far out calls have higher premiums especially with volatile stocks. But by definition it can't ever be higher than the strike price minus the current price. You can buy JNJ calls out to 2022. Most of the oil stocks are only out to Jan 2021 at best.

>> No.19651377

instead of pumping $800b into stocks every day, they're going to pump $650b into stocks and give $150b to niggers and women. something along those lines.

>> No.19651396

i don't think mgm will pump again until late june. they are reopening around 1st week of july. they pumped on news that wynn is reopening and that the other gambling stocks like penn and eri were up.

>> No.19651398

literally no one did. who the fuck buys random low volume chink stocks? but these random chinese stocks are pumping and dumping for whatever reason for a couple days straight now.

>> No.19651408

Gonna get me $250 KO divvies this week you fucking poorfags.

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thinkin about selling these little piggies on an IV spike in the coming day.
maybe shoot for $650

>> No.19651419

ERI down an additional 7% in ah, i fucked up big time by not getting puts on that one.

>> No.19651421

>please tell me you bought this
That would be an admission of insider trading.

>> No.19651429

So short calls are pretty much gambling. Longer calls are more like leveraged stock positions correct? I will read up on the Greeks. I already understand theta but nothing else

>> No.19651467

They specialize in p2p financing. However, they are not a big player in China. Their management said that they have no clue what is going on today.
t. chink

>> No.19651472

should have sold by everything at the end of the day Monday when shit was high.

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>Futures right now
>blood red
Pink wojaks are gonna crash the entire website calling it now

>> No.19651478

>So short calls are pretty much gambling
Short calls are how you do something like play off earnings. If you misread the direction you are just out a premium instead of holding a sinking stock or short.
"Long" calls are an in issue of where you expect the price to be versus what you are willing to upfront. I did that for a few pet holdings then realized it was so much better than buying the underlying that I now only buy calls and puts, then sell the contracts when in the money. It frees up so much capital to do ANYTHING else with.
I am a little too risk averse to selling options.

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The Canary in the Coal Mine

>> No.19651486

Look at the 6 months graph for the dow jones. 2% is nothing. All a dip incidcates is we're ready for another surge.

>> No.19651488

>tfw Futures getting worse
>tfw Friday's probably gonna selloff
Bears on parade

>> No.19651491

Jerome will pump it positive tomorrow morning, relax

>> No.19651501

Ah I understand now. Thanks man

>> No.19651508

>finally fomo into market
>down $1500
just fuck my shit up, senpai

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We are almost there. We are SO close.

>> No.19651524

Selling options is the risk-averse move to make, ironically.

>> No.19651546

The bubble is now bursting, bye bye bullcucks

>> No.19651550

i'm actually turning bearish after reading several annual and quarter earning's reports

the economy was tanking even before corona
big dick powell can't do much

>> No.19651555

>futures green
>markets go red

>futures red
>markets go green

Prove me wrong

>> No.19651558

It’s been one fucking red day and everyone’s a bear again.


>> No.19651559

Based learning threads the last two generals been some solid information transfer for noobs instead of just goofy retail hour shilling. Feel like I may have actually fucking learned something

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tb.h its kind of sad to see people in jeromes live stream wishing upon the death of americas currency

theyre all like "PRINT MORE BRRRRR"

am i wrong for feeling bad about this

>> No.19651568

After March the Dow Jones went up 10% fell 10% and is up 30% from that. Despite a few 2% falls here and there. It's already recovering from almost 2% to 1.3

You can't scare me Bobo.

>> No.19651590

Everyone who held during the COVID crash is still fucked, and they're not going to be satisfied until stocks return to pre-crash levels

>> No.19651591

sell tomorrow or friday, don't hold now

>> No.19651598

These hands are made of steel boys. I don’t care if we open at -5% tomorrow lads more cheapies for me.

>> No.19651601

2 red days. Still up but hemorrhaging 20% hurts.

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Those two red days wiped out many green days.

>> No.19651607

This rally is hated for a lot of reasons. There isn't a liquidity crunch like there was before so I can't imagine it'd be a sudden drop. The worst of all possibilities would be a drop but over a year. Then (nearly) everybody would be fucked and mad.

>> No.19651616

I'm 20% in bond ETFs just waiting for an opportunity for cheapies. BRING IT ON.

>> No.19651619

>3 green days in a row
>3 red days in a row


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What percentage of gain is the point of "better safe than sorry" to sell?
I was up 40% in my portfolio before the dip in the past 2 days and I didn't sell the top.

>> No.19651633

This. The only thing I have is the fact is the lower it goes, the better the div yields get.
I'm just blindly hoping my divs don't get cancelled.

>> No.19651634

Biggest drop we've seen in a month. I suspect we might've reached the top.

>The worst of all possibilities would be a drop but over a year.

This would fucking suck. At least I'm just holding for now but it feels like a loss anyway.

>> No.19651635

Look we all know this charade is going to return to reality, it's just disappointing that it could happen so soon.

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>3 green days in a row
we've been almost nonstop pumping since May 14th

>> No.19651656

You should have decided when you were going to sell before you entered your position. Now your trading is based on feels. Rookie mistake, and you're posting merely to brag about your gains, you don't want advice and have already made your decision.

>> No.19651657


If they’re quality companies it really doesn’t matter they’ll be up again and then some. You coulda/shoulda/woulda sold the top and then re-bought in at these prices and rode them back up but youd have to be psychic/lucky and youd also have to pay the taxes on it. Don’t sell unless you NEED the money or you can make faster money somewhere else or if you’re fucking with some meme penny shit just cut n run if it doesn’t bounce your way.

>> No.19651659

War with China is not going to happen. The oligarchs on both sides do not want it no matter how much saber rattling they do to manipulate the plebs. War between superpowers means that both sides will vaporize each others navies, airforces, and heavy armor in less than an hour. Then, embedded special forces start destroying infrastructure like dams, power stations, municipal water supplies, etc. Sure, the elites on both sides will be safe in their deep underground military bases with self-sufficient nuclear power and subterranean agriculture, but they certainly don't want to spend their time down there when they could be cavorting about in the urban playgrounds they've created by trampling the plebs in their own nations.

If war with China were to somehow break out, you'd lose access to your non-physical wealth within a few hours. At that point, the only things with value are gold, bullets, and seeds.

>> No.19651667

thankgod IVR hit 6 before close

got the hell outta that shitshow



>> No.19651670

Anon. You are dead right. You have to get the stuff with hair on it though.

MLPs and retail REITs are the shit right now. You can get 7% dividend no problem now. It's incredible

>> No.19651672
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Morningstar analysts are a joke. Maybe all sell side analysts are. I’ve gotten lucky with some credit suisse picks though and I’m sticking with them on the theses I agree with.

That doesn’t appear to be a thing.
Do you mean RAZFF?

Fate is such a dumb franchise. It’s just an excuse to create jerkoff material and get sexy babes to satisfy certain cosplay niches.

Why didn’t I think of that?

>> No.19651681

anon if you're up 40%, sell
fucking hell
these professional hedgefund guys can't even hit 20% yearly
if you're up 40% in one month, then sell. if you can make 40% gains every month, you can 55x your money in 1 years. multiply your money by 55. 40% is great anon

>> No.19651697

I'm only pointing the hypocrisy of permabulls, and everyone knew that this rally was just a bubble, you had to be delusional if you though otherwise.

>> No.19651704

Why would you buy a put that is that deep in the money instead of just buying a much cheaper put outside the money that will increase at a greater rate?

>> No.19651708

it's not there to tell you to buy. it's there to tell you information on the company and YOU make the inform decision.

>> No.19651715

Is that really a hard and fast thing? Seems a bit too rigid to me. If I expected something to go back from 2.50 to 6 in the next 6 to 12 months but it spikes 50% why not set a trailing stop to get immediate gains?

>> No.19651716

Re-read the post and try again anon
Seems fair enough, for example I'm holding 230 shares of MRO and was waiting for the total profit to be 1k to sell. Figured I would do that and wait for the dip on that stock to reinvest. I suppose I was more asking about how people hedge their bets when trading stocks and not options.
Fair enough, I figured 20-25% was the best metric to make that decision.
Oh well, I'm still overall in the positive so I'm not seething or anything, just wanting to learn from that mistake.

>> No.19651717

I-I'm so scared, bros...

>> No.19651725

I have WFC 37c expiring July am I fucked? Already down 40%

>> No.19651730
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So 0% interest rates means lower bank stocks and higher gold correct?

>> No.19651731

Just hold your stocks, it'll be ok...

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>> No.19651738

I lost money shorting a "bull" so I'ma stay short and laugh hardest, when I get a chance.

looking at you faggot that didn't sell >>19650806

>> No.19651739

>Morningstar analysis sucks

Maybe if you're a faggot who's day-trading or looking to get quick gains.

I've made $1,000s because of Morningstar research's insight. Should you use it as your only info source? No, but it's good for verifying your info is correct and you're not missing something.

>> No.19651750

cost averaging bros [email protected]

>> No.19651756


Find something else to do tomorrow don’t even check the market.

>> No.19651764

That is a decision you make before you enter the trade. You reached your profit target, so act according to your proscribed decision.
You must be 18 to trade

>> No.19651770

>Why didn’t I think of that?
It's not too late, /biz/ can make its own gacha game. A combination of [C] and Fate: You take on the role of a Magic Investor who engages in battle against the infernal market manipulations of the Bogdanoffs by summoning mythical and historical economists, traders, bankers, etc. (80% of whom actually turn about to be sexy girls that history only happened to record as having been men because no one believes that women can be effective in the marketplace or they hid their true identities in order to trade more easily)

>> No.19651774

Banks make more revenue from interest rates on more loans. It might also expose greedy banks to opening bad credit lines.
Interest rates have a weak effect on gold. The Fed buying junk MBS's is dumping inflation directly into the economy as opposed to just equities which buying junk bond ETFs did. That is cause for a rise for gold.

>> No.19651777

is tomorrow going to be blood red?

I think a nasty bloody day would be a little refreshing at this point, plus gives us buy opportunities

>> No.19651794

you're looking domestically, and you should be looking globally... gold can be pumped and dumped by the whole world... plenty of people hold a fuck ton of it and wiill hit the ask hard... longer trend lines say yes buy gold, but I mean look at the 4 hour chart, you're seeing lower highs and lower lows... with volatility this hiigh you can make money just grabbing 1 or 2 percents on any fucking trade and just getting another one.

>> No.19651795

Unless you mean trade war, neither the US nor China is willing to go into an actual direct conflict with each other. Maybe there will be somewhere to have a proxy war, but it'd be so wildly unpopular on both sides that no one would support it.

2 red days and 1 basically red day (literal last minute pump to green). Unless you want to play some AB=CD technical that says the market's going back up, I think we'll fall back down to 3000 SPX for a while. Going to buy some puts.

>> No.19651798

>is tomorrow going to be blood red?

I think so. I think SPY is going to approach 300 again, and from there we might start rebounding.

If SPY drops below 300, bad news. Blood in the streets.

>> No.19651801

I missed the first dip, if it's blood red idgaf I'll buy and wait a year for some of these to go up. Given that a lot of big names are way fucking down it shouldn't be hard to figure out which ones to buy. Also, if they go straight up bankrupt I'll lose some money but I won't feel dumb.

>> No.19651809

Not really it's going to go back up when shit is done hitting the fan.

>> No.19651818

I fucked up massively this week. I was up 50% thurs -monday. The answer over been given is to realize your luck or good timing and set a trailing stop. But it really depends on timing doesnt it? And the market. 10% any time is pretty solid gains, but if tomorrow will be 10% more then why give away free money. Selling last thursday and opting out of a predictably green friday wouldve been silly. But nobody wouldve blamed you for cashing in Friday and missing mondays gains, and a trailing stop couldve possibly saved us both friend. Then again, I am fucking retarded so maybe dont even listen to me?

>> No.19651819

Am I supposed to be making money or losing money?

>> No.19651828

In a good way or a bad way

>> No.19651831

are you black?

>> No.19651847
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Taking historical figures and making them fap material is profitable. You’d do it too if you could. Problem is we will never get Tsukihime remake or any other IP. We were lucky to get Kara no Kyoukai.

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>> No.19651871

Well overall I've invested $3750 into my account, and I was up a little over 1k, so I think I should have just taken it and ran.
I think overall I learned that while you're supposed to buy low and sell high, understanding the nuances of things rising and falling will help you make safe gains, even it it isn't optimal.
Or maybe I'm overthinking things and need to brush up on my technical analysis lol

>> No.19651872

I think it was buffet that said if you can't deal with seeing -50% on a position for a long time then you shouldn't bother playing individual stocks. Like if you actually do your DD you are more likely to push through it without panic selling or it gives you a good idea of when to just cut your loss. Buying X without knowing anything about how X is doing or worse, getting hit with FOMO, is when the impulse to panic sell comes in. It also means you don't know when you should take your profits.

>> No.19651873

>That is a decision you make before you enter the trade. You reached your profit target, so act according to your proscribed decision
So no matter what or how close you get to your desired gain you never set a stop? If you're pennies away and the market is closing on a friday? Dude it sounds like you're going to lose a fortune by everything I've heard

>> No.19651875

That's what Ive been debating at the moment. Do I bet on defense stocks like RTX and DFEN, or not gamble and just grab a bunch of REITs with the same money?

>> No.19651884

Not yet

>> No.19651886
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>That doesn’t appear to be a thing.
>Do you mean RAZFF?
"RAZ" is the stupid bunch of commies who blocked off a couple blocks of downtown Seattle and declared some kind half assed protectorate.

Some seattle anon paid a visit to it and is posting pictures on /pol/ right now:

>> No.19651900

gap down open then we'll see. I'm not exiting any positions unless I see determined selling in to low of day close.

>> No.19651906

>So no matter what or how close you get to your desired gain you never set a stop? If you're pennies away and the market is closing on a friday?
Micromanaging your position decisions after you have pulled the trigger is a recipe for disaster. You want to remove the emotional component entirely.
Hell, if you are a long hold investor there are papers out there that have shown just buying on random days works just fine. In pieces because of course you are contributing some fraction of a paycheck. DCA is one of the oldest memes there is.

>> No.19651946

yeah me too I put 15K into GUSG, IVR and MITT shit went to 27K on friday and monday. I held and now until monday morning now I have 18K. I guess I ll take my gains fuck a 5% trail would have saved my fucking ass at least 5k. Over night jews got me at 0400 for a 4k loss already. fuck my life.

>> No.19651947

Nah sounds like you've boiled it down to a lot of what I've learned this year. Winning is all smart risk management
Probably correct, but this is my first year trading in real amounts and covid has (in my opinion) broken a lot of the short term rules that we need to normally observe and live by. I couldnt handle seeing +50% hit 0 and I'm willing to sacrifice another short term +30% gain or even more to make shre I dont lose. I've been reckless to be quite honest and I dont feel like learning the hard lesson

>> No.19651948

I fomo'd in and lost 2k of my 13k savings in one day, I realized 1k of that loss bailing out of IVR because that is a shit show of a gamble.

The other 1k is unrealized on Air Canada....

I see blood in the steeets and I am not cut out for this. Do I just sell and accept my loss at this point? I am incredibly fucked emotionally from already losing this much. Tying up the money for a year to just get back to where I started before being an idiot doesn't feel worth it.

Help me bros.

>> No.19651955

Had most of my money in the S&P. I just decided to set a sell order at the open. Maybe I’ll buy in when the futures are looking up. Is this a good strategy? Why watch it just sink

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Small caps getting hit another 3% tomorrow would hurt. What an ugly graph.

>> No.19651960

didn't see the new thread

>> No.19651964

I meant I held until Wends morning.

>> No.19651966

Sell if you are concerned.

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Thanks fren, on the road to 150k so hopefully I can make it soon, like we all will

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>gold stocks regaining loses


>> No.19651982

You could be waiting a while.

>> No.19651989

Maybe sell tomorrow and wait for a lower entry point to jump back in? Or average down if you have the funds.

>> No.19651993

>Probably correct, but this is my first year trading in real amounts and covid has (in my opinion) broken a lot of the short term rules that we need to normally observe and live by
How do you know that? Also trading or investing?
> I couldnt handle seeing +50% hit 0 and I'm willing to sacrifice another short term +30% gain or even more to make shre I dont lose. I've been reckless to be quite honest and I dont feel like learning the hard lesson
If you try to skip learning ahead of time the market will teach you anyways.

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>> No.19652000

I'm feeling the same right now. Down $2700 on it and dying for it to go back up before my expiry. I'm retarded and bought calls, ready to take a loss at this point.

>> No.19652008

Rather sit on a pile of cash than watch it disintegrate.

>> No.19652009

is there a go fund me for the cop? 1 million dollars bail doesn't seem to be that much. 10% is 100k, can we bail out the innocent man until he's exonorated?

>> No.19652010

Holy shit what are futures doing? I expected drawdown but this is a hell of a lot for one evening.

>> No.19652021

it's fine, jerome will save your bitch ass in a few days. let the bears have a day or two.

>> No.19652022

go fund me deleted the thing, you can google and search for it your selves... they're literally going to try to lynch a white man for crimes he didn't commit.

>> No.19652023
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>Fed Chair Jerome Powell said he was "not even thinking about thinking about raising rates". Instead, he emphasised recovery would be a long road and that policy would have to be proactive with rates near zero out to 2022.

absolutely based

>> No.19652033

You can do it but you will almost certainly get a good faith violation. Funds take 2-3 days typically to settle from trades. You basically put the broker "on the hook" until the funds settle. That will get you a warning. Acquiring enough of those over a period of time might put daytrading restrictions on your account. Depends on the broker.

>> No.19652041
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Alright boys. Serious question. Which is coming first, deflation or inflation ?

>> No.19652044

Even more strange is the miniscule volume behind the move. Less than 100k on /ES/ since futures opened this afternoon. Less than 50k on /NQ/.

>> No.19652052

Nobody knows

>> No.19652055
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>sold the top
enjoy holding my bags mumus

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Asia looking great too.

CPI is already down. It's not a great measure of inflation but if you subscribe to it we're already deflationary.

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Aren't low interest rates are good for mortgage REITs (mREITs) since they locked in interest rates at a higher rate?


>> No.19652083

I wish you luck bud, being a true iron hand requires patience, it may yet pay off but clown market gains make it enticing to sell
This to me sounds nearly too risk averse. You set a course uphill and throw away the brakes forgetting what the other side of the hill brings. I understand your points on doing proper research, creating a position logically and sticking to it and removing the emotion from the situation. But there will simply be times when we are wrong, right? I mean if the market was that predictable we would all be billionaires and money would be worthless. I say theres nothing wrong with a fail safe and in fact its have made me a great deal of money. I appreciate the differed opinion. I dont have to agree to learn something so thanks
You have more money to putz around with than I do but I feel your pain, i watched 2k gains monday dip as low as 200 today before getting out at like 525 wishing a green Thursday morning for you

>> No.19652084
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we just crossed the 10k mark on the nasdaq composite. I'm feeling good like a pic related.

>> No.19652087

Well a good few states are still under quarantine, which means that there's not a lot of people buying while product builds up, so deflationary seems to be the more likely route.

>> No.19652094

it keeps bleeding

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how much am I gonna lose today?


>> No.19652111

dude, do your fucking due diligence
learn basic indicators

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how do you feel about CONTAINERS?

>> No.19652121

>But there will simply be times when we are wrong, right? I mean if the market was that predictable we would all be billionaires and money would be worthless.
The point is to give yourself several (independent) indicators that tell you when its time to leave. Price is but one possible thing to look at. Making money in the market isn't about never being wrong but about making your losses sting less and occur less frequently than your wins.

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Oh god I forgot.
Do you remember that question the reporter asked powell about stock prices being too high? And that they’re inflating an asset bubble, and I think something like it could pop and stall the US recovery?

You don’t think Mn-chan has to do some damage control and let some air out, do you?

d-do you?

Semiconductor war


>Kara no Kyoukai
hey I forgot about that one. I remember it being good, I don't remember it being fap bait.

>> No.19652128

We need to buy more boiii

>> No.19652139

what the fuck are futures doing

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>> No.19652146

My advice is to buy into solid companies that WILL NOT FOLD anytime soon.

Exxon, Shell Oil, Johnson and Johnson. Literally just buy and hold. You can’t fuck that up. You will make far more than inflation etc. Trust in yourself and try to meditate/exercise when you are nervous.

>> No.19652150

Don't worry so much, so what of you get stuck holding the bag? If it goes significantly lower dump more money into your stocks so you negate your losses on the way back up.

>> No.19652157

it's FINE the hamsters just being replaced. the new one i heard is especially adept at powering the printer.

>> No.19652160

>you try to skip learning ahead of time the market will teach you anyways.
I did my research, I meant I put too much into a single stock and even though I know that's a very high stake strategy, frowned upon and foolish for many reasons and with ample support, I did it anyways cause I thought I'd pull short term gains, and I did but failed to trust my gut and more importantly failed to set up a control.
To answer your other question, trading but that is likely obvious now. And it's just something I've noticed. Things are going up and down with a much greater volatility than normal and thus disregarding normal predictors

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I'm thinking some of these moves are dollar related. It actually is green and higher than the previous day.

>> No.19652166

Anyone who buys stocks with any regularity will get stuck holding bags or taking a loss at some point.

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People who are starting to invest, rule #1:
Don't let people's optimism about a stock keep you bag holding. If somebody is telling you you'll be alright, do your own fucking research. If you do your own fucking research, they don't know any better than you so you only have yourself to trust.

This will keep you from the fallacy that anybody is ever on your side in this shit. Keep your money to yourself, make your OWN investment decisions.

>> No.19652177

How do you feel about 3D printers?

>> No.19652179

Exactly we need people to understand nothing to be nervous about.

>> No.19652183

is there any ETF / mutual fund that isn't saturated with tech?

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I got BTFO this week I was up to 42k on Monday to get killed Tues and wends pull out this morning

>> No.19652185

Sometimes research still won't even save you. But by doing your own due dilligence and coming to decisions on your own, you can gain some level of consistency.

>> No.19652194

>winning is about losing less
So trailing stops once you're comfortably up and recognize an indicator to mitigate your risk?

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hissy fit. I need to see this move backed up by some real volume before making any maneuvers.

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>sold most of my shit today

one step ahead of you bulltards

>> No.19652206

that's about the shape of it

>> No.19652213

Have you sold? Premarket isn’t even open yet. Anyway, it appears you were options trading. Is that so?

>> No.19652215

gotcha, but does robinhood specifically allowing you to use that money is what I was wondering. I want to sell DAL now and re-buy when it is bottomed. I'm pretty sure as of now it'll just keep lowering.

>> No.19652218

>I don't remember it being fap bait
That scene where Shiki struggles to open the ice cream while missing an arm is the most arousing scene in any TM series.

What would the Treasury even do to deflate things?

>> No.19652229

Exactly. If you're 60% right most of the time, you still come out ahead.

If you sporadically make stock buying decisions from faggots on basket weaving forums, you're going to shit mommy's bed every night.

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I always win in the end.

>> No.19652246

That works. Blind stop losses are so common that nearly every algorithm out there will trip them. Pairing it with an independent indicator (and the more the better) is better to set the trailing stop.

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>> No.19652254

futures are meaningless during QEinfinity. we've seen worse futures (-2% and more) and yet markets still opened green. we're never having another red day ever again. only new fresh highs from now on. jerome is a cuck for niggers but he's not stupid.

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>> No.19652268

predict the election for free money?

>> No.19652269
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Sad panda, shitty day.

>> No.19652272

Reminder that the only petiole bearish on IVR are day traders who dumped their entire savings into it for a quick buck
Accumulate shares at its lowest, it’ll dip again. I bought at 6.8 so I’m here for the long run.

>> No.19652273

i want to suck on nancy's milkers and choke on the dust that comes out.

>> No.19652282

I spent my last $1100 Wednesday at around 10am NY time. Am I gonna get raped tomorrow? See below


>> No.19652283

Yes sold Wends, option and a good portion meme stocks like gush, mitt, ivr memes actually made most of the Gaines that evaporated

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is that so?

>> No.19652285

Tomorrow is going to be a hell of a day

>> No.19652287

wake up early and scoop up those cheapies cuckboi. mana from heaven

>> No.19652288

Fuck, last year in February there was a night with like -6% futures that ended up a green day. I stopped watching nightly futures after that.

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Jews must really like paying taxes to want Biden win and tank economy.

>> No.19652294

>I bought at 6.8
looking forward to watching you sell at 1.7

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doesn't help for the big overnight moves
when one line crosses another line?
But that only tells me what already happened...

Mn-chan is captain of the PPT! Probably.

>> No.19652308

I'm thinking about not even looking tomorrow, maybe I'll just check in on Friday

>> No.19652311

yep. i didn't see that one but i've seen -3% and -2% at around 11pm-2am pump to green by market open. clown market. don't bet against it. some anons get fucking BTFO from buying puts on ZM and BYND. you can't out-clown the clowns. you can't use rationality in this market. there's actual bankrupt shit that went up 100%+.

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>Start with 100k
>Get a 100% return each year for ten years
>VOILA, you now have 102 million dollars

>> No.19652313

>I want to sell DAL now and re-buy when it is bottomed. I'm pretty sure as of now it'll just keep lowering.
So you expect it to dip more and to hit a bottom within the same 1-2 days. That is knife catching and you are probably wrong. This isn't a judgment of your intelligence but rather of probability.
But to answer your question you probably can if you have margin on your account but you will almost certainly get a warning from RH not to do it again. If you don't have margin it will not be possible.

>> No.19652317

Hasnt made a significant lower high so I doubt this selloff will be long lived.

>> No.19652320

Jesus I got it 3.80 and thought it was a gamble but I'm a degenerate day trader

>> No.19652326

This is so weird. That whole move from 3160 to 3140 was on less than 20k volume. 3180 to 3160 was about 25k. This is normal volume for futures by way outside normal price range for that volume.

>> No.19652329

The tax-cattle rancher gladly slaps a higher burden on the herd

>> No.19652331

>russel making absolutely sure to shit itself hardest of all
This is depressing at this point because its been going on for 2 years now.

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>> No.19652335

Look on the hourly candle, watch the 200 EMA

>> No.19652343

holy shit, can you guys get over it already? there are a million other picks to consider now instead of dwelling on missing out or not taking profits on time.
there are plenty other REITs, many big ones with less risk. Or whole other sectors to buy in, semiconductors are the future, or fuck just swing trade oil/natural gas

it's depressing to see so many of you bagholding IVR, have you guys learned nothing

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Bye guys

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I saw it drop as low as 4.50 and didn’t sell I’ll watch it go to 1.00 and hold
People are gonna start working and paying mortgage in July.
Regardless of that, there should be a nice little pump before their earnings report so I’ll wait for that. Mazeltov.

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-3% is huge for overnight

>there was a night with like -6% futures
the limit is 5% for the index futures, it can only go up or down 5% before it hits the limit

>> No.19652354

damn bros, got absolutely rekt buying CCL at 23. Will be bagholding for a year probably.

>> No.19652355

So you're thinking the PPT would sell of some of the shit they've been pumping? Actually, if they're already doing that it could explain the red we're seeing. If they aren't, trying to deflate now seems like a huge risk for triggering a selloff that could turn into a panic.

>> No.19652357

What buy?

>> No.19652358

I see it. Hope that holds.

>> No.19652361


You’re retarded

>> No.19652363

All of us have already accepted that IVR is going to fuck us you nigger.

>> No.19652365

You’re going to pay like 37% or more

>> No.19652372

We’re just trying to see how hard and for how long

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Never forget... Black lives are just as insignificant as anybody else.... I'll say a catholic prayer for the nasdaq.

In the name of the father the son and the holy ghost, little boy's holes we love the most. We are here gathered watching the nasdaq composite retrace and it reminds me about the relationship of jesus and mark. "They may not come from the most fortunate backgrounds, but by faith in Christ, they can live their life to the fullest" now I don't know what this shit means, but my gook gf is sick, and i'd give my own life to see her smile and in good health again.

>> No.19652376

then it was 5%. But it was fucking up there.

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I guess I'll just hold then. It's got to come back up eventually... not any money I really need right now anyways.

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>> No.19652399

Europe starting to open soon. Their futures are red too.

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>> No.19652424

Why am I wrong? It's a thought experiment about the nature of compounding returns and the question is why almost no one has pulled off what I suggested. After you reach a certain point, the simulation steps in and prevents you from becoming a trillionaire.
My country has completely tax free accounts with around a 100k in contribution room, I would be able to do that without paying any tax.

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>> No.19652663

Had I sold all stocks and options last week Friday I'd be up to about 90k. Had I did it Monday...190k. Now? Not even 120k. Very depressing 190k was a point where things would lighten up in regards to investing, could literally sell it all and jump back in with only 30k to play with. Stocks recover? Cool I made even more. They tanked and we finally atart having more down days than up days? Cool I now have 160k which is still a lot, and only risk 30k to attempt making big gains over the next year or so. I somehow fail because it's a great depression. 10 year recovery? No worries I have 130k left which last me 5 years bare minimum.

Now its like. Risk 30k, fail. Only have 90k. Hope I time it right and dont go down to 60k.

>> No.19652758

Going big with ssl.

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>> No.19653168

Thank you that was a really good explanation.

>> No.19653239

How good a dal for a long term hold?

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