Did you buy xsn?

[Anonymous No.21382503]

Dip is still here.

[Anonymous No.21382582]

>>21382503
throwing as much as i can at it right now

[Anonymous No.21382832]

>>21382582
Very nice. A whale put a 9.9 btc order at around 3200-3300 sats. Hope he doesn't pump it just yet.

[Anonymous No.21382959]

>>21382832
This Buy wall doesn't mean shit.
We have 5-7 days of this dip, maybe even go to 3k below.

[Anonymous No.21383095]

>>21382959
Implying the whale won't pump these thin orderbooks after his orders get filled.

[Anonymous No.21383277]

>>21382832
>>21382959
>>21382582
just out of curiousity i would like to know what you guys like about xsn

[Anonymous No.21383292]

>>21382503

[Anonymous No.21383398]

How long does a transfer from livecoin to stakenet cloud usually take? It's been 15 minutes since outgoing from livecoin was confirmed and I don't see any sign of it in my cloud account yet.

[Anonymous No.21383519]

I think 20 conf.
You can check it on https://xsnexplorer.io/

[Anonymous No.21383723]

>>21383398
20 to 30 minutes

>>21383277
>Plans for Hydra, Running DEX on MNs is sick.
>Graphic Design Work, bcz scams don't waste their time and resources on Artwork and Logos etc. Pic related

[Anonymous No.21383753]

>>21383277
personally I like the fact that it's going to the primary hub for all decentralised crypto activity(Billions of dollars worth of crypto every day) and Masternode operators will receive the fee's associated with all of this activity

[Anonymous No.21383809]

>>21383753
I tried looking it up today and couldn't find any news about adoption or its use or anything like that. Do you have links or anything?

[Anonymous No.21383825]

I've accepted that complaining about only having 2MN is a real first world problem. I'm just going to DCA and hope for the best

[Anonymous No.21383853]

Obligatory Money Chart

[Anonymous No.21383915]

>>21383277
Checked. I like XSN because

>50 million marketcap
>DEX is only the first DAPP
>They have a hardware division too
>Mobile version coming post DEX launch
>EPOS
>CPOS
>X9 team is amazing, helped litecoin, working with raiden
>Frank amato


After I read the whitepaper I immediately bought my first node.

[Anonymous No.21383943]

>>21383277
Also what >>21383723 said about their graphic design. Everything is very professional.

[Anonymous No.21383969]

>>21383809
XSN is a 50mil coin atm. You find won't information on youtube, barely anything exists on twitter/reddit either.

Your best bet to do research is stakenet.io and the discord. Also look into their medium articles.

[Anonymous No.21384357]

>>21383809
Stakenet is still in its growing stages and the DEX is only just about to be released. This is a huge scale project and you're still very early.

Webm is footage of a BTC-ERC20 trade. Yes, thats trading BTC directly for an ERC20 token. Instantly, cheaply and privately. This is absolutely huge.

All lightning capable coins will be tradeable on the DEX

[Anonymous No.21384464]

>>21382503
so i sent my xsn to cloud stakenet... and it says i need 20 network confirmations for the coins to be deposited? wtf does that mean? it's been 20min and its still not there.

[Anonymous No.21384536]

>>21383825
yeah just DCA until you hit $.50-$.75 cents and you'll make major gains anytime XSN moves $1

[Anonymous No.21384732]

>>21382503
Confirmations keep racking up as the transaction gets older - so don't worry about it stopping below 20 and never coming, just be patient and it will show up.

[Anonymous No.21384774]

>>21384357
makes my fucking dick hard

[Anonymous No.21384811]

>>21384464
see
>>21383398
>>21383519
>>21383723

Mine took just about 30 mins

[Anonymous No.21384848]

Wait til they drop btc/link swap clip

[Anonymous No.21385321]

>>21383398
What the fuck is up with Livecoin? Tried withdrawing my ETH and it's still "in progress" after 2 days.

[Anonymous No.21385523]

>>21385321
I'm at 3 days at this point. was told it's due to clogs in the eth network but this is a long ass time/ didnt have issues before this but makes me not want to use it

[Anonymous No.21385557]

>>21383825
Anon, you don't get it...
You got in early enough to not just not have to work anymore after about EOY, but you will very likely make over $1mil between now and mid 2022.

[Anonymous No.21385562]

This dip has been beautiful.

Masternode 9 coming

[Anonymous No.21385713]

>>21385562
gonna hit 10 if this holds up till this weekend

[Anonymous No.21385731]

I was all in on link.

Mooned.

Sold half for xsn for next moon. See you on the beach faggots

[Anonymous No.21385974]

>>21383825
>>21385562
>>21385713
No one believes that you fucking shills are spending $1,000,000 on this shit, let alone $60,000 because it's in a "dip." A week and a half ago XSN cost half what it's at now. Do you think we're braindead and don't recognize blatantly artificial FOMO bait?

[Anonymous No.21386116]

>>21385974
It must suck being this deluded.

[Anonymous No.21386157]

>>21386116
Hail

[Anonymous No.21386209]

>>21385974
Anon, its never going back to those prices. Get in now or stay poor. I would have bought weeks ago but only recently acquired the funds. Yes, I've spent 20k on three masternodes.

[Anonymous No.21386342]

>>21383915
>X9 team is amazing, helped litecoin, working with raiden
I fomo bought 2 master nodes after learning this. You guys better be right.

[Anonymous No.21386388]

>>21383853
can there only be 4000 nodes?

[Anonymous No.21386400]

>>21386388
Nope.

[Anonymous No.21386440]

>>21386388
There can be Total Supply/15000
It's very unlikely we get near 4k nodes

[Anonymous No.21386519]

[Anonymous No.21386561]

>>21386519
OVERpriced in, anon. Don't fucking touch this shit, it's going to drop like a rock.

[Anonymous No.21386598]

>>21386561
yeah, once that whale pulls his big buy order this shit is going to tank HARD

[Anonymous No.21386798]

>>21386561
you had 2 years.

[Anonymous No.21387329]

>for me it was this chart

[Anonymous No.21387578]

>>21386561
>PRICED OUT

[Anonymous No.21387675]

>>21387329
Isn't this in Euros?
So burgers can expect a little more than half of these numbers, right?

[Anonymous No.21387732]

Cardano or Trevor?
Which one will make me less of a poorfag

[Anonymous No.21387843]

>>21387675
It literally has the dollar sign

[Anonymous No.21387867]

>>21387732
I'm thinking XSN

[Anonymous No.21388415]

>>21387329
There's zero proof of anything in this chart

[Anonymous No.21388729]

>>21388415
There’s zero proof that we’ll get to the “golden run” numbers, but you can check the math yourself if that’s what you’re referring to.
The calculation for trading rewards is pretty straight forward since those are spread evenly across masternodes. (DailyVolume*Trade Fee)/# of masternodes. In the chart they assume .2% (or .002) and 2500 master nodes. So for example, at $100MM daily volume:
100,000,000*.002/2500 = $80.
Currently the fee is .25% though that’s subject to go down, and we have about 2544 master nodes last I checked. So the part is pretty close to the current parameters in reality.

[Anonymous No.21388881]

Feel bad for new anons who think that one masternode gonna make them rich.

... 1 is the suicide stack. I wish people had started saying that at 700sats. Cause it’s kinda shitty. I will continue liquidate my 10mn rewards tho, so you guys can get in. Trying to to my bit

But yeah, poor fags are priced out right of making it. That wall isn’t helping either

[Anonymous No.21388981]

>>21388881
I don’t get the 1 MN is making it meme either. I have 4 and think I will just barely fall short of escaping waging, though I’m confident I will still get extremely good passive income out of this for a few years once Raiden launches.

[Anonymous No.21389114]

>>21383915
Don't forget TPoS, it's the first one and no coin or token has replicated that feature yet 2 years after it was created.

[Anonymous No.21389144]

>>21383398
It took like 2 hours for mine to appear there before, like even after 8 or so confirmations or something it still didn't appear. Was mildly worried. Just get in, buy and send to cold wallet quickly, fuck kikecoin

[Anonymous No.21389166]

>>21385321
>ETH
There's your problem. Don't blame the exchange for it, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.21389242]

>>21388981
I bought at 700 and then ran the numbers, adjusted for 0.1% fee average over the next 3 years average trade cost and $20 dollar max price in a bullrun. I should have enough to make it. If it goes higher, then yeah I’ll make more. But that will be enough for me including my other positions. Working out the amount of order book nodes is quite difficult tho

[Anonymous No.21389410]

>>21388981
What do you mean by 'meme.' Use the easy to read chart and determine if you think the price of XSN or the volume will be the main bottleneck.

[Anonymous No.21389513]

How much is a MN

[Anonymous No.21389587]

>>21389513
15,000 XSN

[Anonymous No.21389668]

>>21388881
>>21388981
A $2.5 billion MC is only a matter of time once Raiden is integrated. This puts XSN at roughly $25 a coin. 15,000 x 25 is $375,000. Thats a respectable amount of money. The masternode block rewards alone from this is very lucrative.

This isn't even taking into consideration the fact that when the network is entirely moved onto the masternodes, they will receive 90% of the fees(other 10% will be burned)

If your not realising that 1 masternode is going to be enough to make it you dont understand this project.

[Anonymous No.21389726]

>>21389410
I think the fee will drop to .15 or .1% in the long run and the master node count will be more along the lines of 3500 within a year, which roughly cuts the trading rewards per node in half from that chart. Since I have four nodes, that means .5*chart value*4 = 2*chart value is what I can realistically expect. The node count rising will also affect the values of the block rewards by about a third (before you jump down my throat, this is long run. Obviously today there are only about 2500 live nodes.)
My definition of making it isn’t necessarily the same as everyone else’s, but it’s six figures of passive income a year. Using the knowledge from above, the easiest intersection to reach that is about $140-160m daily volume and $7-$8 XSN. I don’t think the volume will be hard to come by especially once raiden launches.
I DO think the token price itself isn’t going to get to $7-$8 for a while.

[Anonymous No.21389783]

>>21389668
>If your not realising that 1 masternode is going to be enough to make it you dont understand this project.
I understand this project. I prefer to exercise caution instead of getting caught up in moonboy fantasies that may or may not come to fruition.
There is a goldmine of potential here but there is still A LOT of time and with it a lot of things that could go wrong between here and hydra (when MNs become truly lucrative). I would much rather expect lower and be wrong than the other way around.

[Anonymous No.21389823]

>>21385974
>PRICED OUT

[Anonymous No.21389837]

>>21389726
Very level headed approach. Very nice to see

[Anonymous No.21389869]

>>21389726
*coin price
I’m tired, please don’t murder me for having a brainfart

[Anonymous No.21390064]

>>21385974
It's fomo but I took a loan and am this close to getting another loan for 150k. $60k isn't that crazy when you see how much people throw into shitty scams. Look at the volume on fucking uniswap. I figured 10mn is enough to retire on if we hit something crazy like 500mm but 20mn is even better and I can get by on with half that much. I might not catch a 10x on it but I expect at least a 3x. It might take a while but I have no required payments and interest is low enough I'm willing to risk it and wait for appreciation. Then I'll go from seven years of xsn rewards to repay it to something like one year. It might dump but you have to take risks if you want stupid gains. The memedonalds pic is nice for daydreaming but I am only counting on block rewards. Old stare disproven fud but I'm still skeptical about hydra, just sounds too good to be true. That said I think the project has something going for it and I want in. I said the same shit about req though, even shilled the link+req bullshit to friends. I don't feel bad though because if they bought at $0.17 they can go fuck themselves if they're mad about a -90%on req .
Besides that with 20mn I'm getting a new mn q5 months or so just from rewards. Plug them in and it will eventually pay itself off unless I get req'd or have fun again.

[Anonymous No.21390243]

>>21390064
Imagine the smell it leaves in your car

[Anonymous No.21390248]

>>21389726
>>21389783
this is a sensible approach, I agree. I do remain optimistic that although it might be a bumpy ride, Stakenet clearly has the most potential of any low cap in crypto right now.

>>21390064
Stakenet will swallow Uniswap whole and vastly exceed it's current volume. If Stakenet succeeds in it's vision and successfully integrates Raiden into it's DEX, we will be not just the biggest DEX but directly competing with the biggest CEX's today.

[Anonymous No.21390685]

>>21390248
That's lightning striking twice bro. I've been lucky enough to hit 7figs poofolio but I bought a lot of shit that was just that, shit. I like the pumpenomics on this coin and want to retire but I never really enjoyed picking the color of my lambo and jacking off to a 10k investment. I'm still kicking myself for only putting 20k in link.
I believe in it enough to put 40k in it and considering another 70k to double my stack, but I'm trying to temper expectations. If I retire off block rewards great. I'm burnt out at my job even if it's seen as cool. You get half as many that think it's cool looking at you funny for doing a woman's job. That gets old after a while when it's something you worked hard for, constantly read up to stay current on the science side, and take pride in. Dex rewards would be incredible but I just want a free 90k/yr so I can play at home and work on my homebrew and whatever other projects I pick up just for myself. I'm a lazy neet at heart and even two nights a week is getting to be too much for me. I already made it with link so I need a pseudoretirement to cruise until we get steaking.

[Anonymous No.21390831]

Xsn is top fucking coin bruhss

[Anonymous No.21390969]

>>21390685
What's your job?

[Anonymous No.21391332]

This will go up to 10 or 15 bucks. Im 100%. Should I sell all my masternodes when it reaches that number or should I keep them for passive profit? I wonder how many years would be profitable until something better comes or bitcoin dies or whatever. 2 years? 5 years? 10 years? Its not realistic to think the masternodes will feed you forever. I wonder when its the perfect exit point.

[Anonymous No.21391453]

>>21390969
I wipe shit off asses, try not to get kicked/punched, and put dead bodies in garbage bags. CVICU nurse voluntold for covid icu. The population that actually has complications from the meme disease is the exact population I can't stand working with. Something about the virus means they tank faster and require 2x the sedation they normally would. Nice to not have 3 patients at a time anymore but holy shit it's somehow even more work with these fat fucks. I would do 72hr weeks for months in a row before this shit took off but now I rarely even do 48. Even with crisis pay and call it's not worth it.

[Anonymous No.21391485]

>+10% and counting a few hours after I finally scraped together my first MN
That was a close one, thank fucking god

[Anonymous No.21391503]

>>21391332
>This will go up to 10 or 15 bucks.
Very likely still being sub 50M market cap and especially with the size of the supply.
>Should I sell all my masternodes when it reaches that number or should I keep them for passive profit?
Always take some profits of large pumps, but never go full retard and sell your entire stack. That's a recipe for roping from soul crushing regret years down the line. I'm always going to have a master node as an extra stream of income.
>bitcoin dies
XSN will mainstream LN ironically strengthening BTC. Once BTC whales notice this they'll fomo in.

[Anonymous No.21391505]

>>21382503
dumbass

[Anonymous No.21391839]

what makes you guys so confident the X9 team can pull everything off the way they claim?

[Anonymous No.21391951]

>>21391839
X9 have a good track record already. They got loads of worlds first achievements like they invented Cold Staking via TPoS, XSN is the first POS/MN coin to implement Atomic Swaps, SegWit and Lightning Network, they were the first to do Lightning Swaps on mainnet, the Multicurrency lightwallet alone has loads of worlds firsts like 1 click tor, channel rental and shit like that. This is what’s so cool about XSN is they are always doing things nobody has done before

[Anonymous No.21391954]

>>21391839
No one knows. It’s the same for Link. How do you know singularity will be achieved?

Either you ride it till make it or it goes to zero. Thing is for new anons reading this, it’s extremely hard for them to get a big stack if they’re wagies. This is the current price until the dex launches, after that we’ll see a new floor which should be even higher, possibly a dollar. Wagies aren’t going to manage to drop 30-45k on a large enough stack.

[Anonymous No.21392058]

>>21382503
'Dip' Is going to be here for a lot longer and get a lot deeper. POSw mk 2

[Anonymous No.21392110]

>>21391503
>strengthening BTC.
BTC still has no usecase aside from being popular

[Anonymous No.21392183]

Xsn will make you make you rich

[Anonymous No.21392186]

>>21392110
Which, admittedly, is worth a lot by itself.

[Anonymous No.21392195]

>>21389726
Keep in mind, running the DEX won't be every masternode. They'll have Daaps and other things to diversify with and it will be competitive. Stakenet is more than just a DEX, DEX is just the first thing on the table

[Anonymous No.21392198]

>>21392110
BTC’s usecase is its value and trading.

[Anonymous No.21392214]

>>21392186
Very true, but it's a retarded dinosaur

[Anonymous No.21392407]

We're back to 4k sats. Looks like its starting to pump again

[Anonymous No.21392576]

>>21392407
Weekend pump is beginning I guess, noticed XSN does most of its pumps at the weekend, will we see 5k this weekend? Elliot waves suggest $0.70 is the next stop for XSN

[Anonymous No.21392618]

>>21382503
Was gonna get in xsn but decided to go more into xrp instead. Good luck fags.

[Anonymous No.21392663]

>>21389726
This is a problem I have with the project: why aren't the prices competitive with binance off the bat? That would help holders more than anything else.

[Anonymous No.21392710]

>>21392663
>This is a problem I have with the project: why aren't the prices competitive with binance off the bat?
Because to start they just want to be competitive with/better than uniswap’s (.3%), which will be their main competition at first. First, siphon the people are ready using DEXes. Then take binance and other CEXes. Rome wasn’t built in a day.

[Anonymous No.21392751]

>>21392710
But as the fees are structured right now they aren't competitive anyway.

[Anonymous No.21392798]

>>21392751
I think it's quite good considering you don't have kyc.

[Anonymous No.21392860]

>>21392618
Dude just stop being retarded

[Anonymous No.21392992]

>>21392860
Haha I bet it outperforms xsn. Xsn is interesting and you will make money regardless.

[Anonymous No.21393021]

>>21392618
have fun crabbing for 4 more years

[Anonymous No.21393034]

>>21392992
>Haha I bet it outperforms xsn.
Narrator: It won't.

[Anonymous No.21393078]

>>21393021
>>21393034

[Anonymous No.21393203]

>>21382503
XSN is a scam. Buy AMPL or stay poor.

[Anonymous No.21393346]

>>21392798
There's no reason to not be competitive off the bat with at least uniswap?

[Anonymous No.21393362]

>>21393346
Having lower gas fees is competitive.

[Anonymous No.21393376]

100$ 2021

[Anonymous No.21393409]

>>21393362
I don't think Raiden uses GAS

[Anonymous No.21393422]

>>21393409
Yes that's what I mean, uniswap you have to pay a fuckton just for gas.

[Anonymous No.21393498]

>>21393422
Ah I see. Yeah GAS is being retarded. I was thinking $5 was high a month ago, but it's in the $20's now

[Anonymous No.21393587]

>tfw priced out
If it drops again I might join you but otherwise good luck /b/ros

[Anonymous No.21393618]

>>21384357

Lmao fucking idiot, the webm is of a wrapped eth (weth) sell for xsn.

I'm bullish on this, but street shitting pajeets like yourself are just making it look worse

[Anonymous No.21393669]

>>21393587
It’s still under a dollar and you say you’re priced out? Uhh..

[Anonymous No.21393695]

>>21393618
I was kind of disappointed when all the talk was about btc-eth trustlessly etc and then it was btc-weth because eth doesn’t conform. But still it’s pretty damn significant. You’ll be able to link/btc trade on a dex. Pretty sure that’s not been done before. Also usdt etc.

But yeah, there will be a competitor around by the time that btc-eth can be performed. Better hope stakenet has solidified its position by the.

[Anonymous No.21393697]

>>21393618
Because ETH doesn't conform to its own standard and thus is not compatible. Unlike other ERC-20 coins lmao

[Anonymous No.21393757]

>>21393618
Im afraid it is in fact yourself who is the 'fucking idiot'. WETH is indeed an ERC20 token. ETH itself is not tradeable over Raiden because it doesn't meet the ERC20 standards. It will once it is upgraded(ETH 2.0). I made a mistake by saying BTC-ERC20, when in fact it was XSN-ERC20. This is a small technicality, and could easily have been the other way around.

I would suggest learning some of the basics before calling other people 'street shitting pajeets'.

[Anonymous No.21393766]

>>21393669
A MN is the suicide stack and currently valued at ~$7000. Many wagies don't have that cash lying around.

[Anonymous No.21393768]

>>21393669
I don't have 7k usd lying around to risk

[Anonymous No.21393980]

>>21393766
>>21393768
Daily reminder that you don’t have to get a MN, it’s only if you want a lot of passive income later on

[Anonymous No.21394003]

>>21393768
So? Buy and stake what you can while slowly buying the rest. Its not now or never, the sooner you buy the cheaper your average buy in price. You don't have to buy an MN all in one go.

[Anonymous No.21394082]

>>21393980
That’s pretty much ‘making it’ lol. The dream of never wagie slaving. Why do you think linkies are never selling... the dream is passive income through the nodes

[Anonymous No.21394189]

>>21394082
You don’t need a passive income if you get your hands on a lot of money and know how to spend it wisely but I see your point

[Anonymous No.21394290]

>>21382503
i want to buy xsn but coinhall and livecoin doesn't inspire me with trust, should i bought anyway ?

[Anonymous No.21394352]

>>21394290
Use Beaxy my friend

[Anonymous No.21394374]

>>21385321
>>21385523
Mine took 2 days and the actually went through. Stay strong Anons. Livecoin is just slow..

[Anonymous No.21394463]

>>21393757
Lmao I know weth is erc20 that's so obvious that it doesn't even need to be said.

The main issue is that swapping xsn-erc20 is not even close to btc-erc20 as that would require two completely separate chains to be interacting with each other through xsn.

Now I suggest you go and find the nearest designated shitting street.

[Anonymous No.21394522]

>>21394463
XSN isn't a fucking ERC20 shitcoin. So it is its own chain

[Anonymous No.21394547]

>>21393768
Just buy a couple of thousand and stake them. Later on you'll be able to receive any coin as staking reward with their CCPOS. Imagine staking BTC or XMR trustlessly on a cold hw wallet

[Anonymous No.21394594]

>>21394290
Never had trouble with Livecoin

[Anonymous No.21394633]

>>21393766
Normies are priced out of btc because only a millionaire can afford something that is the price of a used car. Weird how all these millionaires are out there driving cars, but somehow there's also a lot of people with a btc wallet.

[Anonymous No.21394670]

>>21394290
Livecoin works fine. Never had any problems and no kyc needed

[Anonymous No.21394696]

>>21394463
XSN is not an ERC20 shitcoin like im sure largely constitutes your portfolio. It is it's own blockchain. Therefore, XSN-ERC20 is just as significant technically as BTC-ERC20.

kill yourself please

[Anonymous No.21394707]

Get in before anchors take off.

Try saying it in the mirror before typing next time.

Are you dressed up like a little sailor too ?

Faggot

[Anonymous No.21394744]

>>21394633
murricas infrastructure and the need for a car are the problems. Us Eurofags we just ride our bike 1Km (0.6miles for burgers) to the car-freed city center, get all the stuff we need, ride it back home and buy MNs with that 7k$ and become chads with massive passive income streams during the next bull

[Anonymous No.21394938]

The team should add wrapped xsn to uniswap and burn an equal amount of xsn to make it easier for unitards to get in. Then just add a wxsn to xsn pair to the dex once it launches.

[Anonymous No.21395280]

>>21394938
that's a good idea, someone suggest it in their discord.

[Anonymous No.21395394]

>>21394594
>never had trouble with livecoin
they took a full fucking day to deposit my funds
when I cam to withdraw, they helf my funds for 48 hours before allowing me to get me own money
it's a shitty, scammy russian exchange

[Anonymous No.21395649]

>>21395280
I was going to but someone already posted it on their feature request thread. It would be cool if they actually implement it.

[Anonymous No.21395822]

>>21394696
Holy shit you just keep stating the obvious. It must be difficult for street shitters to operate Google translate.

I clearly said that Btc to erc20 must pass through xsn. Trading xsn for erc20 is an accomplishment, it's a cross chain transaction. But it's a far cry from instant swap between two separate blockchains (Btc & eth) using a third blockchain (xsn) as an intermediary.

Either way I'm bullish on this project, my only issue is with curry shitters buying my coin and then disseminating false info to try and pump the price.

[Anonymous No.21396430]

>>21395822
Your wrong about this BTC/wETH swaps do not require any use of the XSN blockchain, why would it.

[Anonymous No.21396967]

>>21394290
Coinall has less volume then beaxy and livecoin.

[Anonymous No.21397011]

>>21395822
Cope. You're full of shit and don't know what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.21397085]

>>21384464
The more confirmations the safer the transaction is.
If it was a scam site they would set it to 0 and then probably take your money.
But this is legit and they favor security I guess.

[Anonymous No.21397233]

how much to make it anons?

[Anonymous No.21397335]

>>21397233
15,000 XSN, enough for a master node for passive income.

[Anonymous No.21397464]

>>21397335
my order is stuck in coinall

[Anonymous No.21397506]

>>21397464
>coinall
Coinall has fuck all volume.

[Anonymous No.21397529]

>>21397464
Because of the low volume/thin orderbooks, xsn on coinall is much more expensive atm.

[Anonymous No.21397563]

>>21392214
So is gold and gold is still the top store of value by the elite.

[Anonymous No.21397611]

How much is a master node?

[Anonymous No.21397636]

>>21393203
You sound like one that just lost 50% of his stack on YAM.

[Anonymous No.21397645]

>>21397464
Why the hell did you pick coinall? There's no liquidity there. You'll still get a much better price if you cancel the order on coinall and just send your btc to livecoin.

[Anonymous No.21397651]

>>21397611
15000 xsn + 150 xsn on cloud if you use mnaas.

[Anonymous No.21397652]

I can feel xsn closing in 3$

[Anonymous No.21397658]

>>21397611
15k XSN so about $6750 at the minute.

[Anonymous No.21397700]

What does having a "masternode" do exactly. How does having 15k xsn translate into passive income, do you need to put it in a specific wallet of some sort?

[Anonymous No.21397722]

>>21397700
Right now you only get block rewards, more streams of income will come in the future.

[Anonymous No.21397727]

wallet offline temporarily on livecoin, it seems all wallets are offline for me. Any news on that? I didn't find any maintenance slot or anything.

[Anonymous No.21397758]

Question for the beta testers. Opening and closing a Channel is on chain. You can trade all you like with out settling on chain while the channel is open, ok but isn’t keeping the channel open for a long time going to rack up fees?

[Anonymous No.21397803]

You guys are all gonna get YAMMED

In all seriousness though, how are fees in raiden and lightning calculated? Will it be competitive vs btc or gas costs

[Anonymous No.21397815]

>>21392618

[Anonymous No.21397872]

>>21385523
Its not livecoin.
This is congestion on the part of ETH itself.
This is literally why we need this dex.

The same thing is going on with some LIT im trying to stake -- its been pending for 3 days and its hecause ETH gas fees are so jacked right now id habe to pay $40usd to have a timely transaction.

[Anonymous No.21397881]

>>21397803
I don't know exact numbers but basically you open a lightning channel and do as many transactions as you desire for basically free. When the channel is closed all the transactions get added on chain and costs just the normal fee for a single transaction + a small fee for using the lightning network.

It will allow btc and eth to scale in a way that is impossible currently.

[Anonymous No.21397891]

>>21392663
the more natural advantage is taking over liquidity of high volume pairs for on-chain dexes.

binance is the final boss; right now we're still playing the early levels (uniswap, 1inch).

[Anonymous No.21397906]

>>21385974
Maybe the anons buying into this clin are richer than you think.
Im no linkottery winner, but ive put in 12k myself between $0.15 and now DCA-ing.

[Anonymous No.21397916]

>>21397803
Opening/closing the channels will have gas costs
They can stay open indefinitely or you can rent them.
Otherwise like 0.2% fee for trading

[Anonymous No.21397917]

>>21397803
I know lightning is 1000s of times cheaper than btc, you can get single digit sat fees. So raiden will be like paying 0 gas and an instant transaction. So yes it's pretty fucking competitive.

[Anonymous No.21397919]

>>21392751
fees are malleable, and will likely decrease as volume increases.

[Anonymous No.21397985]

>>21393346
uniswap charges .3% transaction fee, plus gas.

stakenet will blow that out of the water (.2%, $.20 for channel rental for 2 weeks).

[Anonymous No.21398034]

>>21393618
what's wrong with demonstrating they can manage any erc20 pair via raiden?

[Anonymous No.21398093]

>>21394463
wow what is with the retards right now?

[Anonymous No.21398144]

cant even get a confirmation email code from any of livecoin or coinall, fuck these cexs

[Anonymous No.21398198]

>>21393766
>>21393768
>t. priced out newfag

do you think normies are worried about buying a link suicide stack?

no they'll just buy what they can afford to get themselves on the ride.

you're priced out of a master node, but that doesn't mean you can't make money. there's also staking as 45% of block rewards will continue to go to staking wallets.

[Anonymous No.21398262]

>>21398144
It's probably your email provider's greylisting, wait a few minutes and send the email code again. Otherwise use a different email. I'm /g/entooman in addition to XSN Chad so of course I manually whitelisted livecoin's domain for my email.

[Anonymous No.21398284]

>>21395822
oh wow he just keeps digging deeper

you can trade any coin pair in the dex - it's not like on chain swaps, any market maker can provide liquidity by simply placing a buy order.

[Anonymous No.21398298]

>>21398144
Your your sending ETH your going to be in for a long wait, better today send LTC or something then trade it into BTC once it’s on the exchange

[Anonymous No.21398353]

>>21398298
https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#0,24h
BTC's mempool is pretty clear atm, don't need to lose trading fees for LTC

[Anonymous No.21398363]

>>21397529
ironically, once the dex is released this will no longer be a problem, as the dex will aggregate order books from major exchanges to enable more efficient price discovery/arbitrage across cexes.

[Anonymous No.21398372]

>>21397881
I've seen some anons say lightning won't scale. Is that even a legitimate argument? where are they pulling that from

[Anonymous No.21398424]

>>21397758
no. 2 weeks costs less than $1.

biggest deal breaker is probably going to be needing collateral to open the channel, at first.

[Anonymous No.21398519]

>>21398372
that's a new one.

I've never heard that - on its face it seems a bit ludicrous but would need to see the argument to refute it.

[Anonymous No.21398628]

>>21398372
Fudders have been saying that isn’t his thread but have yet to see a single shred of evidence that it’s true

[Anonymous No.21398963]

>>21398424
Would love to get more information on the collateral side of things. There was an intense fud from someone, possibly the whale with the wall as we said in the threads the last couple of days. Admittedly I have no fucking clue how all this works, I just went all in cause missed out on 10k link

I’m just hoping one day, I’ll be able to log on the dex, trade btc for link or any other erc20/coin I want with a single trade. If it doesn’t happen then so be it. But I don’t see me losing money any time soon

[Anonymous No.21399623]

>>21382503
I'm a brainlet, somebody please explain in simple terms why the stakenet blockchain needs to exist to facilitate a DEX that uses Raiden/ Lightning network. Why can't Uniswp just integrate Raiden into their exchange? Why does a new chain have to be itnroduced? This is the reason I never bought this coin, I just never understood it

[Anonymous No.21399685]

I want a mn but I don't have half a btc I'm ngmi boys. Dca for the next few months will probably net me 1000 xsn supposing it doesn't increase more than 10% a week. Even if I liquidated my boomer stocks I would be close to mn but not there. I hate being poorfag.

[Anonymous No.21399803]

>>21399685
Market cap of XSN isn't even $50M yet, you'll still get insane gains if you DCA in, even if you never get a master node.

[Anonymous No.21399987]

>>21399623

Uniswap I probably could integrate Raiden.

But

1) it would take then significant time. XSN have had to alter both raiden and lightning, so it would take uniswap significant time, and I don't think they have they developer talent for raiden.

2) they wouldn't have lightning. Can dex bridges erc and btc coins. Erc is the fad now, but that can and probably will change. So xsn has both covered

[Anonymous No.21400021]

>>21399987
Not to mention no XSN Chad master nodes.

[Anonymous No.21400168]

>>21399803
1k XSN would be 6 figures once it cracks a $1 bln mcap

[Anonymous No.21400215]

>>21398963
biggest issue is you have to hold coin in collateral to trade on the LN.

it's part of opening the channel - you have to put collateral up to fund the channel rental, and it's often much higher than the channel rental would actually cost - I think it's to help fund your trades. I'm not sure how big the collateral will need to be in prod, but in my testing it's been quite high relative to my trade amounts (~100 xsn when I last tested it out)

[Anonymous No.21400271]

>>21400215

Not sure why the collateral would matter.

It's your coin you get back, and it's better than high gas fees

[Anonymous No.21400345]

>>21399623
uniswap operates on chain so they'd have to completely change their architecture to implement raiden.

no erc20 dex can implement cross chain swaps right now - the best they can come up with is wrapped assets, and no one has even attempted to replicate xsn yet (likely because it's very difficult and time consuming to implement, and most people currently in this space are really only looking for "good enough" so they can get to market and get paid).

[Anonymous No.21400438]

>>21400271
no you're right - you get it back, but it limits your trade sizes of you have to hold a significant portion of your assets in collateral to make the trade in the first place.

if I have 200 xsn and have to hold 100 in collateral to open a channel, that's going to be a barrier to entry for me if I want to go all in with a trade, and may be the difference between me using xsn and using another platform.

[Anonymous No.21400987]

>>21400215
So won’t there be an option for masternodes to lend their collateral for this? So say 15000xsn is 1million. The dex could use that collateral so you don’t personally have to need that much. You can trade any amount up to that.

Which makes incentive for masternodes to be huge

Or nah. I’m being stupid

[Anonymous No.21401266]

>>21400438

I don't think that's how it works.

[Anonymous No.21401506]

[Anonymous No.21401574]

Have any of you actually stopped for a second to consider the ramifications of these guys actually succeeding in integrating Raiden into their DEX? And if it works as smooth as the current test DEX does?

This will be the single biggest tech disruption in crypto since ETH itself. And we're invested at the ground level...

[Anonymous No.21401716]

>>21401574
I’ve known this and see even further ahead

[Anonymous No.21401727]

>>21401574

Oh I have. That's why I have 10 mn and will retire in 6 months

[Anonymous No.21401831]

>>21401506
>public distribution
what did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.21401838]

>>21401574
It's literally like the avatar coin, that can master the tech of all the major ecosystems and thus usher in a golden age of peace and insane gains between them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N9SS6L0TDU

[Anonymous No.21401878]

>>21382503
where can I find the address? The one on Etherscan doesnt even have a Logo on Uniswap. What is this?

[Anonymous No.21401918]

Friendly reminder for those who are complaining about not being able (expensive) to buy a full node: stakenet is the first project in crypto to deploy cold staking. So you can use that. Its called TPOS. Join our discord and reach a merchant.

[Anonymous No.21402118]

>>21401831
I guess a website with the download link to the Light Wallet

[Anonymous No.21402146]

>>21401878
It's a coin, not a token.
goto livecoin.net or beaxy.com

[Anonymous No.21402165]

>>21401918
Join >our discord
DISCORD TRANNY DETECTED

[Anonymous No.21402191]

>>21400987
That's exactly what's planned and one will earn further fees for collateral lending

[Anonymous No.21402250]

>>21401506
So in simple words
>Release not gonna happen this month
STRAP IN BOYS WE GOIN DOWN

[Anonymous No.21402293]

>>21402250
He literally says the opposite you fucktard

[Anonymous No.21402300]

>>21401831
So no release this month?

[Anonymous No.21402479]

>>21402293
Just two weeks ago it was very clearly stated that there public release is “this month”. Now he’s basically saying the open beta will continue e, and public release is “soon”

[Anonymous No.21402578]

>>21402300
No think there is going to be a special website built for the DEX not the main site but a different one where anyone can download the DEX from and that will come just after public trading begins. Think it will be a simple Uniswap style site for plebs

[Anonymous No.21402688]

>>21402191
So that means in theory the price of a masternode could be a shit fuck ton right? Like a real fuck ton of money.

Goddamn. Ooft.

[Anonymous No.21402727]

>>21402479
He didn't mean it like that. He was talking about a webpage like the other anon said. The soft launch will still be this month

[Anonymous No.21402804]

>>21402688
Yea, a MN will be like a kraken with a dozen of arms that each represent a massive income stream. Someone should put that into a meme

[Anonymous No.21402945]

>>21402804
Gotta get these moon thoughts out of my head. I can’t sleep at night

[Anonymous No.21403597]

>>21402479
No he didn't, dex release is this month.

[Anonymous No.21403625]

>>21402688
Well last bull run a dash MN was worth $1.5M and that does fuck all in comparison to XSN MN’s so that’s how I think about it

[Anonymous No.21403633]

>>21402578
gotcha. that would be cool, but how does that connect to your wallet if it's a website?

[Anonymous No.21403933]

>>21403633
Perhaps it could be integrated with the mobile MCLW and cold storage.

[Anonymous No.21404123]

>>21403633
I dunno the wallet is a lightwallet already so just stores private keys. Maybe it will be for Ledgers or something store PK on there then use the site as a web portal for the rest

[Anonymous No.21404184]

>>21401918
I don't really understand this, what will the merchant sell me? Why can't I just do it myself?

[Anonymous No.21404214]

Why are all Livecoin wallets offline? Are they exit scamming?

[Anonymous No.21404459]

Bros I just want this to take off so I can retire. The technology looks good after playing around with the dex, we just need fucking volume

[Anonymous No.21404563]

>>21404214
My xsn is locked until tomorrow because I updated my 2fa before buying. If my 2 master nodes disappear I'll probably suicide

[Anonymous No.21404588]

>>21404184
A merchant is the person who stake your coins for you. Without leaving your wallet. So its 100%safe.

Ofc you can do it yourself like any PoS coin, but it is easier through a merchant, that's all.

[Anonymous No.21404630]

>>21404563
Damn hope everything works for you, going through that Russian shithouse terrified me moving that much money

[Anonymous No.21404703]

>>21382503
Guys how do I fix pic related?
Newfag problems..

[Anonymous No.21404758]

Intelligent discussion in this thread actually making me consider buying in. Don't have the means for a masternode atm though.. and don't have a lot of faith in the exchanges

[Anonymous No.21404960]

>>21404758
You can always... just stake without a MN.

[Anonymous No.21405043]

>>21404960
Yea, this is my first time actually reading about XSN. Trying to figure out how it works

[Anonymous No.21405280]

>>21404588
I don't turst those (((merchants))), will rather stake myself.

Btw. do I need to forward ports for this? I can't find any information on it, but I feel like the peers are rather slow and few in between. I have upnp disabled of course.

[Anonymous No.21405333]

>>21382503
Standard Crypto Fund (QQQF) is a tokenized index that tracks crypto, DeFi and FoT index tokens. QQQF's supply will be leveraged to buy assets and pool liquidity.

https://www.standardcryptofund.com/

https://www.standardcryptofund.com/

Devs added over 108,000 Statera to the portfolio

[Anonymous No.21405470]

>>21405043
literally just keep the coins in your wallet.
if the green icon pointed out in pic related is there, you are staking

+9 XSN gained from staking on my povertywallet so far

[Anonymous No.21405587]

>>21405280
Even if they want, they cant steal from you. Literally.

[Anonymous No.21405743]

There was a 10 btc order last night. Did that get filled?

[Anonymous No.21405826]

This will never catch on, throw it on the dead meme pile

[Anonymous No.21405891]

>>21401574

I don’t think outsiders get it. They need to understand this is bigger than kyber uniswap, it’s a cross chain DEX that everyone a year from now will be using.

Volume might not be there day one but rest assured centralized exchanges are gonna be used for on ramping fiat only.

[Anonymous No.21405899]

when is this dex coming out wtf, mid-way into august already

[Anonymous No.21405944]

>>21405899
end of the month

[Anonymous No.21406224]

Lightning Labs finally liked a tweet about XSN and their use of LN on the DEX.

[Anonymous No.21406326]

Pic of full tweet and link. Was a video that was posted yesterday doing multiple back to back swaps on the DEX and Lightning Labs actually liked it, pretty sure this is the first time they have ever acknowledged anything XSN has ever done

[Anonymous No.21406504]

>>21406326
XSN actually monetizes LN and pipes all that BTC whale liquidity into ERC20 tokens, this project has staggering implications.

[Anonymous No.21406723]

>>21405280
It's called TRUSTLESS proof of stake (TPoS)

[Anonymous No.21407016]

ive been watching xsn for a while. always thought it was just another masternode scam. all the other masternode coins are just trending to 0, xsn looked like it was doing the same

then it basically did a 6x overnight

[Anonymous No.21407096]

Pajeets i can't wait to trade with just one gas fee for my eth shit coin moons

[Anonymous No.21407157]

Is there seriously no way for me to get the 15,000 for a masternode without going through the kikes at livecoin

[Anonymous No.21407240]

>>21407157
Can try Beaxy but that needs KYC. Livecoin has volume and no KYC if you withdraw less than $20k daily. Livecoin is fine just can be a bit slow with deposits and withdrawals but it gets there eventually

[Anonymous No.21407372]

>>21407016
The other MasterNode coins for the most part don’t have a real product beyond having masternodes.
Even if XSN somehow DIDN’T have masternodes, I’d be buying as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.21407424]

>>21407157
Livecoin works fine. My BTC deposit took 2hrs. XSN withdrawal took 5 mins

[Anonymous No.21408122]

>>21407424
Yeah I have never had any problems with them apart from being slow a few times

[Anonymous No.21408783]

>>21402727
>soft launch
time to sell

[Anonymous No.21409050]

>>21405587
>>21406723
I know but you can't expect me to trust literal merchants. Also just out of curiosity, what would happen if they somehow fuck up the stacking. I trust they can't loose my money, but they could probably just stop staking at some point.

[Anonymous No.21409070]

>>21408783
Good luck. You will be selling into the hands of new fags just discovering XSN and want to ride it to $10 or get in for the passive income.
Nice not knowing you.

[Anonymous No.21409112]

I have 50k link 312k xsn, there is zero doubt in my mind this will be the next link in gains.
>inb4 why not go all in
I love my stinkies
>inb4 larping faggot
ok bub some of us have been here since 2017 and others have been here before that
>inb4 larping faggot with 300 xsn looking to dump his bag
ok bub
>inb4 obsessed linky thinking he found the next gem to lose his money on
140 iq inpt in crypto for a long time, seen lots of projects moon and lots of projects go to zero so if you can beat this resume and have strong arguments beyond SCAM, then go ahead.

[Anonymous No.21409206]

>>21409050
You will know if you don't get any stakes then.
It's not the end of the world not getting you 6 daily XSN for a few days in case some one fucks you.
There are merchant with a good rep.
Pick those then.
What's t the big deal?
It's a free market

[Anonymous No.21409225]

>>21408783
The narrative literally changed from “DEX public launch” to “soft launch (=extending the beta phase)” in the last 24 hours. Launch cancelled.

[Anonymous No.21409235]

>>21409112
I have a very meager stack of LINK (1100). Do you think it’s worth selling to acquire two more master nodes (Already have a few), and then down the road reinvest some staking rewards back into LINK? I believe in the long term success of LINK but I also know I will never have a true make it stack in it.
XSN I have a chance.

[Anonymous No.21409322]

>>21409235
I don't think this is a good idea personally. LINK is guaranteed money for years to come. XSN while it is most likely going to grow, if you sell those LINK, you may never see 1100 LINK again. Keep your LINK and keep acquiring XSN as you get paid from your job.

[Anonymous No.21409340]

>>21407240
> Livecoin has volume and no KYC if you withdraw less than $20k daily

You can withdraw more than $20k, it's just that each individual withdrawal has to be less than $20k.

[Anonymous No.21409440]

>>21404563
same happened to me it seems. While I kind of understand the idea, it's such a fucking shame they do this after you enable an additional security feature.

[Anonymous No.21409441]

>>21409225
No, the narrative did not change. Weak fud. You had two years

[Anonymous No.21409547]

>>21407424
I deposit ETH and swap for BTC on the exchange. Saves time

[Anonymous No.21409549]

>>21409441
More like he had 100 masternodes what he sold at 4.5cents.

[Anonymous No.21409557]

>>21404214
No it's just slow as fuck

Pic related

[Anonymous No.21409756]

>>21400438
I've made this point before and got called a brainlet. I do think they'll fix the issue though

[Anonymous No.21409759]

[Anonymous No.21410368]

>>21401574
That's why we're here doing what we're doing
Manifest destiny

[Anonymous No.21410546]

IS THIS A SCAM??? I NEED TO KNOW.

[Anonymous No.21410665]

>>21410546
Yes, just buy yam instead.

[Anonymous No.21410678]

>>21410546
Yes, sell me your stack so you don’t get scammed

[Anonymous No.21410802]

>>21409225
HAHAHAHA I FUCKING KNEW IT
YEARS AND YEARS OF PROMISES WITH NO PRODUCT

[Anonymous No.21410857]

Anyone else planning to run their own masternodes when the hydra gets released? Thinking of starting a company too so MN rewards and dex fees can be counted as revenue instead of capital gains which are taxed to shit here in Australia. Don't wanna give a single cent to those kikes at the taxation office more than I need to. I'm literally planning to live off this shit and the sooner the better.
We're literally stakeholders in the next fucking Binance, it's insane.

[Anonymous No.21410936]

>>21395280 (You) before that post
>>21410802 (You) after that post
>getting this spooked by one shitposting retard
I won’t even call you weak-hands. I straight up thing you’re a double amputee with no hands. Give me your stack.

[Anonymous No.21410979]

>>21410857
Uhm no sweaty one guy in this thread said we aren’t releasing anymore so it’s all over

[Anonymous No.21411148]

>>21410979
Look how this jeet is not addressing the concern (launch cancellation), but just keeps repeating the moonboy mantra.

[Anonymous No.21411192]

>>21411148
i don't see anything about launch delays or cancellation

[Anonymous No.21411278]

>>21411192
They changed it into a “soft launch”. So basically only people in the beta testing group can trade.

[Anonymous No.21411441]

No because:

1) I would need to send BTC to "Livecoin".
2) I would then have to put it on Stakenet's wallet
3) The Stakenet wallet would generate "interest" in the form of "staking"
4) When I want to sell, I would need to send the XSN back to Livecoin and exchange it for BTC
5) I then would need to send this BTC to Coinbase
6) I would then sell it for fiat and put it on my bank account
7) I would then proceed to have calls by several governmental instittuions asking where the fuck all this money came from
8) I would then proceed to get fucked by some 58 year old boomer that rolls eyes when I talk about how "I bought an altcoin on some random shitexchanger which gave me interest" in the forms of fees by not reporting capital gains (stakes) and trading unregistered securities (any shitcoin essentially). This is if during the process "Livecoin" doesn't disappear "Cryptopia" style which would mean you have to gamble your case on screenshots of your crypto to crypto tradings (assuming that you did take said screenshots in time, since "Livecoin" doesn't even save tradings for longer than like a week or less, which tells you how much of a shitty exchanger it is). This also assuming that Coinbase/Kraken/any other exchange with liquidity using Chainalysis doesn't block your BTC deposit (and all exchanges with good liquidity use this anti privacy insanity)

TL;DR: If you were to "make it" buying some random alt, you would have a massive clusterfuck with several grey areas once you cash out ready to be exploited by the assorted government boomer employe which thinks by default you are a money launderer when you are just trading shitcoins.

TL;DR: It's fucking OVER.

[Anonymous No.21411480]

>>21411441
>inb4 "just cash out in small chunks so you get fucked by structuring"
>inb4 just buy Amazin giftcards bro
>inb4 move to this or that shithole once you make it bro
>inb4 this and that bullshit

[Anonymous No.21411482]

>>21401918
DPoS also allows cold staking

couple coins have implemented this (ark, lisk and EOS)

[Anonymous No.21411505]

>>21411278
They haven’t changed anything from the announcement

[Anonymous No.21411714]

>>21411278
>>21410802
You fucktards they haven't changed anything. I already showed you proof of that. You had 2 fucking years. Pic related, AGAIN for drooling super retards like you are

[Anonymous No.21411805]

>>21411482
dpos is not trustless

[Anonymous No.21411887]

>>21411441
same shitty story applies for any crypto but BTC. You're too low iq for xsn, leave this thread and don't buy

[Anonymous No.21412600]

>>21409235
nono. as much as i like xsn, dont sell your link ever.

[Anonymous No.21412902]

>>21412600
*Translation
Please don't sell so the market dumps, because I want to chase 20% more gains and then dump myself without competition. Kek

First rule of investing..
1.NEVER fall in love with your investments.

Looks like you just broke rule number 1.
Oh right... You had a agenda. That's right.
So you really didn't break it.
You just wanted others to break it.
Gotcha

[Anonymous No.21413148]

>>21409225
Did you hear the team change the narrative??
Or did you hear some random biz tard use a different word and used that to FUD?
Where do we see this kind of shitbrain Manipulation?
Oooohh that right...... In the main stream media. they also twist everything on its head.
I almost forgot that.
Thanks for reminding me of those human scum.

[Anonymous No.21413247]

>>21409235
The rules of making money from investing and trading is, sell when things are over valued and buy things that are under valued.
Now you figure things out yourself from here.
But I know what I would do.

[Anonymous No.21413388]

>>21411441
Can somebody contest this guy, I’m curious to see other responses

[Anonymous No.21413391]

>>21410802
Think of how you mom and dad feels then.
Years and years of raising you as a child and never grew a brain.
Same difference!

[Anonymous No.21413485]

>>21410857
Yep I'm starting a company on the virgin Islands. Tax heaven.

[Anonymous No.21413637]

>>21412902

This ain't no mere investment get boy.

This is actually changing how people trade. It's changing crypto.

Go back to your uniswap pnd

[Anonymous No.21413638]

>>21413388
What about reading those who already responded to his obvious copy/paste random coin FUD??
Or are you the same retard who made the post??

[Anonymous No.21413707]

>>21413637
No I'm comfy with my tons on MN in XSN.
But thanks for caring.
Don't get butt hurt just because you get caught in not knowing about investing 101.

[Anonymous No.21414020]

>>21400168
Huh? It’s 50m cap right now so x20 to get to 1b. It’s about 0.50 per coin now so x20 would make it $10. 1000 coins at 10$ is only 10k

[Anonymous No.21414331]

>>21413388
Only poor people pay taxes so with XSN you don’t have to worry about them ever again

[Anonymous No.21414489]

>>21411441

Not when dex is out where you can exchange xsn for btc, then send btc to wallet of choice then to fiat on/off ramp.

[Anonymous No.21414495]

>>21410857
Well I sold my 2 MNs in september of 2020 so I only owe taxes on it's worth at that moment. I also received no taxable staking rewards because it was on an exchange :^]

[Anonymous No.21414564]

>>21414495
Shit what is the price of xsn in September of 2020

[Anonymous No.21414599]

>>21414020
Let the kid dream.
He is priced out and for a moment he was happy because public school math told him it was 6 figures.
But then you came along.

[Anonymous No.21414888]

I've been waiting to get in for a while after my investment took a beating, is there really a point to owning xsn if I'm too much of a poorfag for 1mn?

[Anonymous No.21415021]

>>21414564
How's one Mccheeseburger from the value menu sound?

[Anonymous No.21415025]

>>21393766
What is an MN?

[Anonymous No.21415251]

>>21414888
based digits but also, MN don't pay out an insane amount, only about 5$ a day (would be 100$ a day if it reached 1b but that's still far away). It's still only 50m mcap so it easily has potential to 3x-4x within the next few weeks.

[Anonymous No.21415327]

moon mission is starting

[Anonymous No.21415435]

>>21415025
Masternode

[Anonymous No.21415523]

>>21415327
Shit my other money just got to cuckbase. Guess I'll wait for another dip

[Anonymous No.21415588]

>>21415327
Probably just some masternode market buys. It’ll settle back down

[Anonymous No.21415844]

>>21414489
And how does the DEX solve anything?

When you cash out to fiat they will ask you were the fuck the money came from.

When you swap BTC for XSN the XSN has to go somewhere. Once you start staking, you are already liable for capital gains. If you dont report the capital gains, you already set yourself on big trouble once you cash out, since you will not be able to prove the origin of the funds without at the same time proving that you were supposed to report the capital gains made on the staking process in the local Stakenet wallet. Unless you want to put the coins in Stakenet without staking anything...

But still doesn't solve the legal problems of holding unregistered securities. It is also not clear to me how boomers would react when you say you "used a DEX".

Look up can't cash out stories. It's already a bitch cashing out BTC from your usual suspects (Coinbase etc) now imagine having a convoluted story of exotic shitcoins and exchanges and weird process like staking. You are trusting that some 59 year old boomer with a lot of power isn't going to fuck you up in the process.

[Anonymous No.21416033]

>>21413638
Not a copy paste tard.

Btw let me make a correction: I meant to say "income tax". The moment you start staking, that's income, just like mining. I only learned this recently and realized how everyone that is staking is fucked. Notice that the moment you cash out you'll be forced to show your trading history to prove that your gains come from a licit origin which includes how you staked those tokens which generated an interest.

Also a "DEX" may not be something a government recognizes as valid proof of exchange. And in any case you are stuck with Livecoin. This coin's liquidity depends on Livecoin which is rather insane since it's an exchange that can go cryptopia at any moment.

[Anonymous No.21416143]

>>21416033
>>21415844
It's the "idk how to do staking taxes so no one does" fud again lol
Checked for digits

[Anonymous No.21416373]

>>21415844
Serious question ... What if i just report my small capital gains from buying bitcoin - buying xsn? It wont be that much beause its basically just the difference between what you bought the bitcoin at vs xsn. It would take one line on my taxes and probably be ignored. Whats the big deal?

[Anonymous No.21416450]

>>21416033
This is retarded fud. I have an excel sheet, keep track of all of staking rewards. Those will count as Income. When you trade them you count the gain as capital gains. (Or loss if price goes down) You put this on your tax sheet. Its THAT simple. Literally spoke to a Tax Attorney about it LAST WEEK. This is retarded FUD or you are just an absolute loser who is looking for an excuse as to why you are not making money in this bull run.

[Anonymous No.21416529]

>>21416450
Are staking rewards derived from a masternode? Or does any quantity of xsn i purchase generate staking rewards?

[Anonymous No.21416589]

>>21416033

Omg the humanity!! I might have to declare tax on my free staking rewards I sell for more bed or reinvest into a new masternode

Rofl

[Anonymous No.21416591]

>>21416033
Sounds like crypto is not for you buddy.
If you can't figure out how to get around those "problems" you list, then stay in the old legacy system where IRS is holding your hands all the way and tell you each year to be a good little sheep and pay so they can waste your money on all kinds of shit like illegal wars and what not.

[Anonymous No.21416599]

>>21416450
I’m waiting for Hmrc (Uk) to five clear guidance on staking. Staking =/= mining and I don’t think it’s income here. Mining income for sure is.
Probably it should be thought of the same as a dividend from an etf/index or interest.

Or profit on it should be calculated as dividend reward at the time out cashing out. Either way I’m paying as little as possible to my stupid gubberment and if they tax it as income I’ll set up something in a haven or move to Gibraltar

[Anonymous No.21416805]

>>21416599
Yeah income tax here (US) is actually not too bad especially if you file jointly with wife and you are the only earner. If something like XSN really blew up and I get pushed to a higher bracket doing something like you are thinking of might be an option. For now though it is not that bad and not anywhere near as difficult as that FUDster is making it out to be.

[Anonymous No.21416822]

>>21416450
so doing this from the core wallet is easy, but what about the cloud? arent there like a bunch tiny transactions happening every 2 minutes or something?

[Anonymous No.21416853]

I'm liking the amount of shilling, but you can't even register on livecoin atm. they aren't sending out confirmation emails (tried on 3 different addresses inc cock.li)

[Anonymous No.21416873]

>>21416822
I didn't see em if you didn't.

[Anonymous No.21417092]

>>21416873
lolol gotcha, but lets say the pressure did get put on you and you somehow did have to report those tiny cloud rewards would an easier way just be to tax the total amount made from staking YTD i think you would get taxed more doing this but it would be easier than going through literally hundreds of pages of tiny individual transactions (as i think income would be taxed at its valuation at the moment earned) i dunno im just trying to cover bases here lol

[Anonymous No.21417177]

>>21416853
beaxy?

[Anonymous No.21417245]

>>21416853
I registered on livecoin about 20 minutes ago no problem

[Anonymous No.21417325]

>>21417092
For sure. I keep most of my stuff on MN and just a little on Cloud. So I am not too concerned about the Cloud staking as it will pale in comparison to the MN's.

But the way you are saying is the safe way to do it. There also may be programs that you can run file through it will figure it out for you.