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>> No.23380656

>>23380648
normies who dont understand marginal vs effective tax rates

>> No.23380662

>>23380656

Republicans in general don’t know how tax brackets work

>> No.23380683

>>23380656
>>23380662
look tweedle dee & tweedle dum

>> No.23380685

>>23380648
>New York is fucked
I think you mean the US. It's now the Chinese century, gweilo.

>> No.23380687

>>23380662
>>23380656
Pee pee poo poo hehehehe xD

>> No.23380690

>>23380656
50 cent is way above the brackets

>> No.23380699

>>23380683
>>23380687
Typical rightard behaviour

>> No.23380713

>>23380648
Upstate NY anons need to pool their money together to escape that hellhole

>> No.23380734

>>23380699
Typical left wing cuck behavior

>> No.23380755
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23380755

Why do some people think the government having more money is good? They already have an ungodly amount of money that they extract from us and their net output is debt. This is like giving a teenager money when they say they "lost" their allowance. Do people really think the problem is that the government doesn't have enough money?

>> No.23380756

What do you care you filthy fucking foreigner?

>> No.23380768

>>23380734
this

>> No.23380772

>>23380713
im rich and god trapped me here. god personally stalks and monitors upstate ny and tortures everyone here

FUCKING RUN

>> No.23380779

>>23380648
This is what the tax rate used to be. In fact, they were higher than this. It's what prevented income inequality.

>> No.23380848

Upstaters are the whiniest cunts in the world. If you don't like it here then move.

>> No.23380908

>>23380772
I live in Jersey City and it is pretty much a pajeet/mussie commune. I want out.

>> No.23380918
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>>23380779
>used to be
Do you mean with SALT? Because I'm not seeing anything from Biden about restoring it. Which means 50 will actually be taxed more than in 2016.

Or do you mean before the Reagan reforms? Because the effective rate was nowhere near the statutory rate in those days. I'd tell you to ask your accountant about deductions but you sound too poor to have one.

>> No.23380962

>>23380848

many upstaters have been there a long time. nyc is a huge tax drain that does nothing for the rest of the state.

>> No.23380984

literally nobody i know likes nyc weekenders/refugees

>> No.23381022

>>23380984
Moved from the South to NY area three years ago. It's really easy to see why almost everyone here is a cunt. This is an awful place to live. Even now I feel the douche bag creeping into me. I've had to learn to be more aggressive, but only because everyone here is an insufferable cunt. I even drive like a cunt now. I have a 2 year plan to gtfo out.

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23381885

>>23380699
>>23380662
>being governed by an involuntarily-funded state is good
enjoy being overrun by joggers and bearing the weight of a billion trillion dollars in debt in exchange for being guaranteed the mere promise of adequate goods and services from the government

>> No.23381937

>>23380656
>>23380662
>drinks water
>breaths oxygen
>makes posts
Actual fucking retards kek

>> No.23382229

>>23380962
>nyc is a huge tax drain that does nothing for the rest of the state.
Who do you think pays for your Medicaid and other assorted gibs?

You? What the fuck do you people make besides meth and bad decisions?

>> No.23382272

>>23380648
>3 states that pay for everything
kinda checks out, problem?

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23382389

>>23380648
Chainlink is my only hope of escaping this place

>> No.23382432

>>23380662
That's been debunked.

>> No.23382466

>>23380690
This. One day I will be a billionaire rapper so it's in my interests to protect them.

>> No.23382507

>>23380648
Good thing I live in WA. All the benefits of a blue state with none of the income taxes

>> No.23382520

>>23382229
>Who do you think pays for your Medicaid and other assorted gibs?

i don't collect medicaid

>You? What the fuck do you people make besides meth and bad decisions?

food is probably the biggest export, but it's really more about what we don't make. we do not export shitty culture, covid refugees, or riffraff.

>> No.23382561

any anons know a good place to live? how's Nevada?
>t. Cali fag

>> No.23382631

>>23380755
They think the government is smart because they've either never met a government employee or don't understand that government jobs have a low bar for entry and don't incentivize high performance. They just sit in those jobs doing mediocre to subpar work until they get old enough to retire on a pension and benefits. Government is the most inefficient body at every task in the world.

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23382660

Oh look. Another thread on /biz/ about how fucked up Upstate NY is. Why do so many threads about Upstate NY and how bad it is here get posted more than any other location in the world?
Holy fuck. This place is hell on earth.

Anyone from pic related? AKA monroe county

>> No.23382663

I live in tennessee (not one of the major cities everyone thinks of) and it's great, insanely low cost of living in a great developed area (not too rural or anything), decent opportunities if you know where to look, pretty decent food. Highly recommend, it's a nice spot desu

>> No.23382676

>>23382663
Oh yeah and the nature is fucking beautiful holy fuck, you'll never want to go on a hike more in your life. Insanely pretty waterfalls and views around here.

>> No.23382723

How the fuck can anyone ever argue for giving the government MORE MONEY when it already wastes so fucking much of it? Even at the local level the money wasted is absolutely mindblowing is it a mental disease? How else can you explain wanting higher taxes instead of fighting to lower them and focus on hanging and public execution of those responsible for mismanagement of funds

>> No.23382858

>>23382561
Just stay there so you don’t fuck up elsewhere

>> No.23382871

>>23382723
Cuz they’re stupid. Now you know why they said send your tired, your poor, etc. stupid people love the most government.

>> No.23382872

>>23382723
Only the biggest simps in the world think that big daddy government has your best interests in mind. Seriously I know people that did not have mother or father figures growing up. They use the government as a kind of surrogate parents for all their inner traumas and pain. They look to the government to fix all of their woes and the worlds. They truly think the government has their best interests in mind. They believe that the more money they can give out of their pocket or take from the rich will go to help the rest of the world where it is needed.

Simps love taxes. I honestly feel like it is some deep masochism being played out from their subconsious. Some kind of inner demon coming out of them that makes them want to be cucked by the government.
They cry. They yell. They beg.

>PLEASE TAKE MORE TAXES FOR ME SO I CAN SAVE THE WORLD

It is quite a mental illness being played out. If the liberals were not so intertwined with the psychological and medical industries... I bet they would be categorized in the DSMV mental illness dictionary as having some kind of mental neurosis for the government and taxes.

>> No.23382875

>>23380656
>thinks 60 fucking percent in tax is acceptable for anyone
All you communists should be shot in the fucking head.

>> No.23382913

>>23382561
I moved here for work I abhor the politics they stand for

>> No.23382927

>>23382913
fuck meant for >>23382858

>> No.23382944

>>23382913
>>23382927
Seriously. I don't even know how any lefties can actually browse 4chan. If you browse 4chan and are a lefty the cognitive dissonance must be so high that thinking is a hard task.

>> No.23382969

I'm voting for Trump.

>> No.23382997

>>23380648
Biden, the globalist puppet, is increasing taxes to pull up the ladder. no escaping the rat race if he gets in office. it'll be high taxes and federally mandated shutdowns.

>> No.23383003

>Live in Eastern PA
>NJ and NY niggers are going to flee in mass and move to my state
>Prices of everything is going to skyrocket even more than they already are
Please stop I hate you faggots so much stay the fuck out of my state

>> No.23383035

>>23382997
Federally mandated medical slavery. Total loss of bodily rights/medical freedom by force of law is a communists wet dream.

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>>23382872
>They use the government as a kind of surrogate parents for all their inner traumas and pain.

This is the best explanation for being a big government leftist. I feel so sad for them like you said it really is a mental disease where they think giving more money to government makes them righteous. I kinda wanna throw up just talking about people like that, its akin to giving money to a mafia accountant that squanders most of it and asks for more and thinking you're a good person for asking everyone else also give him more money

>> No.23383119

>>23382660
Most Frens on biz are from from New England and Upstate is the most fucked location; the government of NYS is completely unworkable, the demographics are only going downhill, and there is no saving the state because there is such an incredibly large mob of retards in NYC who control State level politics. Anyone with a brain gets up and moves states, most high level workers in Albany and NYC live in neighboring states for tax benefits, most high IQ's upstate leave the state which results in brain drain where there is only one person running for political positions all the way up the ballot. It is better to just move to a midwest relative tax haven than to buy property and attempt to raise a family in NY. God has entirely died here.

>> No.23383181

>>23382875
Try taking a look at the historical upper end tax rates during the 20th century US "golden era".

>> No.23383185

Fuck upstate new york everyone Ive met there is a pretentious asshole.

>> No.23383188

upstate traders join @ChadLounge on telegram

>> No.23383192

>>23383003
people have been leaving NJ for years my man

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23383263

>>23383090
I get where you are coming from anon, I really do. But you must not hate on these people. It only distorts reality more and makes it more of a vision for what THEY want to see in the world. The second you stoop down to their level and hate on them for how they think, the actions they take or the reality THEY live, then you help them make their reality more real.

Everytime you hate on them, judge them or put them down, the dark negative reality that they want to come to fruition in the world becomes closer and closer.

>Don't stoop to their level, don't look, think or even blink an eye at their way of being
>The more positive we are, the more you live your life humbly, with respect, with diginity and trying to be a better person you destroy their reality
>When you talk badly about them it is exactly what they are doing to us and that is the endless loop that keeps happening
>Negative shit flinging
>Now I'm not saying you are wrong in thinking this way, but actively thinking this way about other people, no matter how degenerate they may be will hold us all back from making the world a better place
>Positivity will help us forge a better reality day by day

>"Speak ill of no man."- Ben Franklin

>> No.23383287

>>23383185
Upstate NY'er here. Can confirm. This place makes everyone a cynical, negative and degenerate person. This is a cold, dark and negative place filled with failure and a cursed energy. You come here to either die or fail.
This just perpetuates in and of itself until everyone here is just a bitter hollow shell.
Or until you move out of Upstate.

>> No.23383571

>>23380662
Yeah, uh, sorry, common misconception but it's been debunked.

>> No.23383752

>>23380662
Says the idiot who loves giving more money to the government.... Also I've never met one liberal who understands economics.

>> No.23383776

>>23380648
>While Americans earning less than $400,000 would, on average,receive tax cuts under Biden's plan, the highest earners would face double-digit increases in their official tax rates, according to nonpartisan analyses

>> No.23383851

>>23382997
But his tax plan only increases taxes on people making more than $400k/yr. Look it up. How is that pulling up the ladder?

>> No.23384006

>>23382944
I’m not a lefty, I’m a progressive. Say what you want, do what you want, just don’t be a dick to others is my motto. You like money, cool. You like drugs, cool. Legalize weed and cocaine.

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23384009

>>23383263
Based and enlightened-pill. There's a reason why the powers that be have unleashed the media to get us at each other's throats while they feed and harvest all the negative emotions resulting from this. Literally couldnt sleep last night because of this and when I finally did I had semi-sleep paralisis and saw a dark entity that filled me with terror. Had to call on the name of Christ -with some effort- to end it. Something is afoot, I want to make it asap to be comfy and help my senpai. Im getting out of this timeline and switching over to a comfy one

>> No.23384513

>>23384009
Dude seriously. No larp. No joking. 100 percent serious on this.
You can switch you timeline to a positive one if you are positive and truly help others in your life most of the time.
Your being will literally go to another timeline just with the power of positivity. That is the power you hold by using the powers of light.

>> No.23384563

>>23383851
So if you make over 400k/yr you want that tax %? Congratulations. You just affirmed subconsciously to yourself that you're ngmi.

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23384622

>>23384513
I believe you anon and Im trying my best to really "get it" and switch to a better one full of kidness and warmth, any tips you want to share or particularly relevant info I should be looking more into?

>> No.23384634

>>23384006
Based

>> No.23384689

>>23384622
>The Hidden Messages of Water
>The Secret Life of Plants

How does the food and water you eat look like? Also I am willing to help you out via discord. I can give you my own personal literature I have written regarding this subject. Discord friends?

>> No.23385082

>>23384689
I’ve heard of the plant book
So I shouldn’t move up state?

>> No.23385122

>>23385082
What do you mean up state? Where do you live now and where do you want to move?

>> No.23385175

>>23385122
Fairport
Another state

>> No.23385222

>>23385175
Dude I work in Pittsford. Live near Avon.
Do you have dreams of being self sustainable and off grid? Do you want to take care of yourself when the system collapses?
New york is finished. Want to be discord friends fellow monroe county biz bro?

>> No.23385251

>>23381885
Hahahahahahaha, holy shit 100,000
They should be charging 15,000 at fucking most, who the fuck would ever buy that?

>> No.23385260

>>23382663
TN sounds peffect desu

>> No.23385278

>>23383181
We had 1/4 of the population then than we do now

>> No.23385351

>>23384006
Based Trump voter.

>> No.23385493
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23385493

>>23384689
>How does the food and water you eat look like?
Hm not the best because Im not very disciplined with it. I drink a lot of water usually from those pitcher-filters, but dont have any fancy purifying water treatment or anything.
My diet isnt great either, I eat a lot of home made meals usually something like chicken with potatoes or rice, and some greens like avocado. But I also eat carbs and make myself sandwiches when im lazy, pizza & fast food a few times per month, and I drink beer almost every single day usually more than 1, usually not big on sweets.

I would be very interested in your own works and will look into the books you mentioned, I have never heard of them. Can you make a discord and post link here or you could upload your writings and drop the links to the downloads

>> No.23385516

>>23380962
>nyc is a huge tax drain
Its literally the opposite.

>> No.23385588

this thread brought to you by the Simpsons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kug4giKpwmE

>> No.23385691

>>23385493
My discord is sunofthemoon#9215. What's yours?

>> No.23385915

>>23385691
I have to make another one bc I cant post my personal one here, im already half asleep in bed so I will add you tomorrow, if thread is still up I will also post it here in case you see it. Thanks anon appreciate the info its good to see ppl breaking the conditioning

>> No.23386068

>>23385915
Screencap my name anon and add me. I'll be waiting.

>> No.23386092

big nigger cities leeching off the rest of the country, per usual.

>inb4 someone posts the 'muh net taker' map that pretends rural areas actually take more in tax than they pay. remember, faggots, the rural areas would gladly leave the union at any time.

>> No.23386098

>>23383181
Effective tax rate was way lower than that kike, no one paid that shit and they're certainly not going to pay it now

>> No.23386110

>>23386092
illegal amounts of cope

>> No.23386206

>>23380779
>he doesn't know about effective tax rates

>> No.23386330

>>23380656
50 cent would be in the top bracket you fucking retard. imagine being dumber than a literal nigger.

>> No.23386342

>>23380779
The rich will continue to keep their money in the Cayman islands and pay $0 while you slave away for Mr. Goldberg and the government that's going to support you, by supporting Israel

>> No.23386949

>>23380648
Holy shit it's real, how did the democrats fuck it up so bad?

>> No.23387956

>>23382466
This but unironically

>> No.23388160

>>23380908
I’m praying for you bro.

>> No.23388350

>>23382875
Losing 60% of a billion is something anyone can live like a king with faggot. I'm coming for your money and there's nothing you can do to give it to Israel

>> No.23389118

>>23383287
I thought upstate NY was about quaint little towns and tiny coffee shops. And hiking the Adirondack

>> No.23389184

Shrink the Government.
We need less taxes, not more.
Anything over 5% on all forms of tax is too much in my eyes and means the Government has gone beyond it's initial role.

>> No.23389189

>>23383181
try taking a loaded gun, pointing it at the roof of your mouth, and pulling the trigger, you subhuman communist shitstain

>> No.23389207

>>23384006
you're a libertarian.
Do what you want doesn't work. Behaviour must be guided by a system of law underpinned by morality. The vast majority of humanity has a level of consciousness that is less than that of a house cat. Do what thou wilt will result in chaos and destruction. We are not evolved enough.

>>23383263
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_j_6rAvG6Q

Divine justice takes care of everything- e.g. Hunter Biden's laptop. $85 destroyed Joe's campaign.