Socialist economics general!

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Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:29:54 2014 No.23863 [Reply] [Original]

Socialist economics general!

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:31:53 2014 No.23882 >>23863 As a socialist, how do you feel about work refusal?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:34:53 2014 No.23901 as a socialist im too lazy to contribute op

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:35:23 2014 No.23910 Someone can reply for me and if they don't I'll have them shot

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:38:23 2014 No.23930 File: 126 KB, 1170x335, workers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://no2eu.com/

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:38:53 2014 No.23926 I'm going to nationalize industries and give the profits to my buddies.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:39:53 2014 No.23936
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Why would you post on a board full of people who hate you and want to kill you?

Why would you post on a board full of people you want to destroy and think are "bourgeoisie"?

Reported for off-topic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:40:23 2014 No.23940 >>23926 >I'm going to privatize industries and give the profits to my buddies. Can't win

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:40:23 2014 No.23947 >>23926 chavez?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:40:53 2014 No.23946 File: 227 KB, 1562x845, feelsbadman.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Socialists deserve to be suffocated.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:42:23 2014 No.23958
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Yeah, sorry this is the economics board.

You're looking for /x/ or /b/.

Socialism is so incredibly fucking stupid you must have severe brain damage to even consider taking it seriously.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:43:53 2014 No.23966

>>23946
Now, in your next sentence tell us how you can't find a job because of capitalism's artificial job scarcity.

How does it feel that an Indian fellow is working the job you spent years working for, for less than $10/hour full time?

Capitalism superior.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:44:53 2014 No.23973 >>23958 Someone's upset they can't find a job.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:46:54 2014 No.23983 >>23973 he must live in a socialist country where the unemployment is around 25%

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:47:23 2014 No.23991 >>23863 what kind of socialist?

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:48:53 2014 No.23995
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>>23966
>Now, in your next sentence tell us how you can't find a job because of capitalism's artificial job scarcity.
>implying I don't have a high paying job
>implying we have "capitalism" now
>implying you couldn't be more vague

Why do socialists seriously exist still?
Like, what the fuck?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:49:23 2014 No.24003 Why are you people anti-socialist? I know you guys have problems talking to girls but to swear of socialism in general just because your a little awkward is taking it too far.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:49:23 2014 No.24004 >>23882 I'm ok with it, I'm not workerist! If you want to build a house in the forest or live a awesome homeless life so be it! But don't expect the benefits of organized society if you don't contribute.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:49:23 2014 No.24006 >ITT: Twenty something year olds living off financial aid complain about socialism and welfare states

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:49:23 2014 No.24013 I'm going to do my part by spreading awareness of the economic and political witticisms I collected from image macros, OWS, and the Daily Show.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:49:23 2014 No.24014 >>23983 Like Sweden? Oh wait. Their unemployment is far lower than USA. And that's with all their jobless Pakis. Funny how that works isn't it? >>23995 You bet, kid.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:50:23 2014 No.24019 >>24004 kind of the same here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:50:53 2014 No.24021 >>23991 Democratic Socialism

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:51:23 2014 No.24032 Looks like the People's brigade has arrived

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:51:54 2014 No.24027 >>23926 Go to bed Mugabe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:51:54 2014 No.24028 >>23958 i bet your conservative parents are so proud of you, kiddo. Shouldn't you be in bed anyway? I know it's the weekend, but growing children need their sleep.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:51:54 2014 No.24029

>>24006
>>ITT: Twenty something year olds living off financial aid complain about socialism and welfare states
Yes and they have every right to.
Lol kill yourself.

>>24003
>Why are you people anti-socialist?
Why do you fucking think, this is a business, finance fucking board.
You know, capitalism?

People don't want to be slaves.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:52:53 2014 No.24036 >>24029 >Why do you fucking think, this is a business, finance fucking board. Your point?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:52:53 2014 No.24038 File: 276 KB, 512x512, 1375828290902.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24014 >Like Sweden? >sweden is socialist Oh god not this shit again, you sure fucked up you dumb nigger.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:53:23 2014 No.24041 >>24029 Socialism is an important part of living, idiot. Human beings were made to be socialist with each other and have since we had tribes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:53:53 2014 No.24045 File: 126 KB, 1488x833, 1352329009463.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24028 >i bet your conservative parents are so proud of you, kiddo. >I HATE MY EVIL BOURGEOISIE PARENTS >FUCKING CAPITALISTS MAKING ME DO HOMEWORK Lel'd hard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:54:23 2014 No.24049 >>24014 >sweden According to his report, the "actual unemployment" rate hovers near 20% http://www.timbro.se/pdf/Alla_behovs_2.pdf

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:54:53 2014 No.24053

When I become leader of the country after the revolution I will carry the country through a brief period of relative prosperity and then slowly re-introduce market reforms to keep the economy afloat until I end up with capitalism again.

Rinse and repeat.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:55:23 2014 No.24057
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>>24041
>Human beings were made to be socialist with each other and have since we had tribes.
Society and "socialism" are two different things.
Socialism is violence and anti-social.

Babby's first political ideology.

You should stay there though, you'll learn a lot about how socialism is beyond retarded.

>>24036
>Your point?
Socialism wants to destroy those things?
Seriously just get the fuck out now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:55:23 2014 No.24060 >>24040 >free this is what commies actually believe

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:55:23 2014 No.24065 >>24057 When was the last time you were socialist with someone besides your hand you fucking virgin? Yeah that's right, never.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:56:23 2014 No.24066 File: 328 KB, 1000x753, 1345029409811.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24040 Good one kike. What excellent justification for enslavement. Into the gas chambers you go.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:56:54 2014 No.24072 >>24057 >Socialism wants to destroy those things? I think you're confusing socialism with communism

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:57:23 2014 No.24075 As a socialist, can I just say how relieved I am about not being mocked on the internet when I called myself a communist before? I can finally have a success story by bringing up Sweden.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:57:53 2014 No.24076 >>24060 You pay for it through a fair tax system from when you find a high paying job thanks to your education

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:57:53 2014 No.24077 >>24066 >cuba before trade sanctions and after them

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:57:53 2014 No.24080

>>24029
>People don't want to be slaves

FUcking TOP LEL. I can't do this.

Have fun trying to work your way up from the lowest of low entry level "career" only to be fired a year before retirement so you can't collect on it. If you're lucky.

Don't get mad at me because you're stuck in an endless feedback loop of "working your way up".

>>24049
>he links to some kind of white supremecist "muh personal freedumbs" white trash libertardian website.

Go suck Breivek's cock.

>>24066
Now post the picture of chinks digging waste out of sewers to deep fry BUGS in.

Capitalism is so great huh?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:58:24 2014 No.24082 >>24040 >>24066 Both of you, take it to /pol/.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:59:23 2014 No.24086

every country is socialist. even the USA. if you don't believe me, try to build & sell cars. you can't, it's illegal. even if you passed all the road tests for safety and had full certification.

name any economic activity and i will point out how the USA regulates it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:59:23 2014 No.24088 >>24066 >nearly 20 percent of Hong Kong lives below poverty

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:59:23 2014 No.24089
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>>24072
>I think you're confusing socialism with communism
No I'm not.
Socialism wants to destroy all business activity and entrepreneurship.
That's what this board is about.
Pls go.

>>24077
>>cuba before trade sanctions
>IT WASN'T SOCIALISM'S FAULT AT ALL
>EVIL BOURGEOISIE EXPLOITING DA PEEPOLE

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:59:53 2014 No.24091 >>24057 >that pic Not all socialists are pro statism you know

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:59:53 2014 No.24093

>>24004
>don't expect benefits if you don't contribute

Someone's not been doing their math, huh?

Children are leeches, let them starve
18 year old, kicked out of house for being gay, unemployed, never worked - let em starve

etc. etc.

Current society, America is a nation of bums and leeches. 47% don't pay Federal income tax (they do pay Medicare and Social Security, which only fund said programs). They don't contribute, why should they be helped?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:59:53 2014 No.24096 >>24076 >fair taxes Like in glorious Scandanavia :)

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:00:23 2014 No.24101 >>24089 >Socialism wants to destroy all business activity and entrepreneurship. except that's wrong

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:00:54 2014 No.24103
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Is anyone upset by Communist and Socialist governments caving in to capitalist pressure?

It's harder and harder to find places that still resisted the siren song of market economies.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:01:23 2014 No.24110
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>>24080
>FUcking TOP LEL. I can't do this.

>Have fun trying to work your way up from the lowest of low entry level "career"
Why would I have to fucking do that when I could work at mcdonalds for 20 dollars an hour because the economy is actually that economically productive in a free market?

>Don't get mad at me because you're stuck in an endless feedback loop of "working your way up".
AHHAHAHAH MY FUCK are you people brain dead retarded.
We have nothing close to a free market now.

You actually think giving the state total power over your life is a solution.
Lol oh god I can't take it any more, you fucking economic illiterates, just get off my economics board now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:01:53 2014 No.24111 >>24080 >can't point out any actual flaws >full damage control mode nice try

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:02:53 2014 No.24116 >>24110 >We have nothing close to a free market now. Good

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:02:53 2014 No.24117 >>24103 Bringing up North Korea is kind of like the left wing strawman equivalent to the Somalia argument against libertarians

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:02:53 2014 No.24120
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>>24080
>Now post the picture of chinks digging waste out of sewers to deep fry BUGS in.
Why would they do that if they could just get a decent job?

>>24088
Nope lol

>>24101
>except that's wrong
Except that's correct.
I'm not talking about social democracy you idiot.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:03:23 2014 No.24122

>>24057
you can have business and finance in socialist societies, you fucking retard. Socialism doesn't automatically mean the end of all currency and economic conduct (although there are certainly socialists who want that); there are socialists like myself who see the value of private markets for at least luxury goods, which means the continued existence of businesses and finance in your apparent interpretation of those two terms.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:03:53 2014 No.24125 >>24103 North Korea isn't socialist moron. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:03:53 2014 No.24126 >>24110 le epic may may xD

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:04:24 2014 No.24128
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>>24116
>Good
Good, you think it's good that everything sucks and people live in poverty thanks to state controls?
Lol you people are actually this dumb.

>>24122
>Socialism doesn't automatically mean the end of all currency and economic conduct
YES IT DOES YOU FUCKING RETARD

You would be talking about social democracy, which is not socialism.

>there are socialists like myself who see the value of private markets
Then you want a mixed economy. Retard.

Bottom line is everyone on this board hates you. Get out.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:05:23 2014 No.24134
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I'd say that capitalism will collapse on itself in around 20 years or so thanks to wall street. Once food stops being easily available the establishment will quickly be toppled by the people.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:05:23 2014 No.24135

>>24110
>free market

Why give the state total power when you can take away all the rules and be ruled at the barrel of a rich man's private militia's gun ala any slave trade ever.

>YAY FREE MARKET I CAN DO ANYTHING I WANT

Nope. Not when I can do anything I want. If the world was ruled by a free market, my invisible hand would be so deep in your asshole you wouldn't dare stop picking my crops, slave. What are you gonna do about it? There's nobody to stop me. It's free market BABY.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:05:53 2014 No.24136 >>24066 >cuba controlled by crime families >cuba no longer controlled by crime families

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:06:23 2014 No.24142 this entire thread needs to be removed. Holy shit everyone posting in it is so fucking retarded. Including me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:06:23 2014 No.24143 >>24128 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_socialism inb4 backpedaling

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:06:53 2014 No.24144 >>24125 Oh right, it's based off Marxist-Leninist ideology. Night and day difference right there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:06:53 2014 No.24145 File: 81 KB, 247x253, 1391321133381.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24120 >Why would they do that if they could just get a decent job? You played with model trains the first 25 years of your life, didn't you?

>>	PlατΩ ( ´∀｀) !!kGRAAvdSlhs Sat Feb 15 03:07:24 2014 No.24153 File: 94 KB, 650x436, 1392451667151.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] National socialism is best socialism!

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:07:53 2014 No.24152 >>24144 >it's based of Marxist-Leninist ideology Which isn't true for all forms of socialism.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:08:24 2014 No.24156
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>>24125
The government controls all industry. That's exactly what socialist countries do.

This is the effects of their policies. It doesn't matter that they don't call themselves socialist.

>>24126
>le no argument XD
Why are you even on 4chan?
Seriously, why do socialists come to 4chan sometimes? Why?

>>24135
>when you can take away all the rules
That's not what a free market is.

>and be ruled at the barrel of a rich man's private militia's gun
That's not even allowed in a free market.

Strawman harder.

You want actual fucking slavery.
Please kill yourself.

>If the world was ruled by a free market, my invisible hand would be so deep in your asshole you wouldn't dare stop picking my crops, slave.
LOL NO

Wages would rise and prices would dramatically fall, LIKE WHAT HAPPENS IN EVERY FREE MARKET FUCKING EVERYWHERE

>>24143
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_socialism
Something 99% of socialists are against and would call bourgeois. lol

>>24145
>You played with model trains the first 25 years of your life, didn't you?
I'm talking about a free market, not the corrupt inflationary system we have today you massive fucking retard

Wait a second, did you swallow paint chips as a child?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:09:23 2014 No.24165 Does anyone else wish the lived in socialist eastern europe in the 1980s? Too bad it stopped existing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:09:53 2014 No.24162 File: 86 KB, 866x1074, 1353234506096.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >socialism Seriously? Why are you on the capitalism board? Why do socialists think socialism will benefit them at all? It's quite delusional. sage

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:09:53 2014 No.24163

>>24128
you haven't the slightest idea of what you're talking about, and i would say you are a troll except there are a fuck ton of people who are legitimately as deluded of reality as you are.

You're like asshole atheists who insist to (for example) Christians that if they aren't adherents to a very specific form of Christianity then they're not actually Christian.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:10:53 2014 No.24171 >>24156 >no argument You said socialism can't involve markets, and I showed that you were wrong. >Why do people with different opinions than me come to to muh 4chan

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:11:23 2014 No.24173 >>24156 > government roads > free market It's a public-private alliance, which is probably the best of both worlds.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:11:53 2014 No.24177
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>>24156
>That's not even allowed in a free market.
>That's not even allowed in a free market.
>That's not even allowed in a free market.

HE ACTUALLY SAID THIS

A RULE.

IN A RULE-LESS STATE OF BEING.

HE ACTUALLY FUCKING BELIEVES THIS.

MY SIDES ARE ON FIRE.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:12:54 2014 No.24183 I collective use my toothbrush with everyone in the house. Am I a socialist now?

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:13:53 2014 No.24187
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>>24152
>Which isn't true for all forms of socialism.
Nobody cares. Socialism has failed everywhere it's been tried.

>>24163
>you haven't the slightest idea of what you're talking about,
Yes, yes I fucking do kid.

> and i would say you are a troll except there are a fuck ton of people who are legitimately as deluded of reality as you are.
>HE DOESN'T AGREE WITH MY DELUSIONS SO HE'S A TROLL

TOP KEK
I can't believe socialists are this stupid. Please leave the capitalism board now.

>>24171
>You said socialism can't involve markets
By socialism I meant what 99% of socialists commonly call socialism. They all want to destroy markets, business and entrepreneurship.
You KNEW that.
Stop being a faggot and leave.

>>24173
>It's a public-private alliance,
Yeah, fascism is super fun.

>>24177
>IN A RULE-LESS STATE OF BEING.
>HE ACTUALLY BELIEVE A FREE MARKET MEANS ANARCHY AND NO LAWS
>HE ACTUALLY FUCKING BELIEVES THIS AND HAS THE BALLS TO POST ON THIS BOARD

MY SIDES ARE IN FUCKING ANDROMEDA

>>24183
No, you're a capitalist who shares his toothbruth.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:13:53 2014 No.24191 >this guy see, this is why people hate ameriburger libertardians

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:13:53 2014 No.24192 >>24156 >>24144 "Marxist-Leninism" was coined by Stalin, it isn't "socialism" in any definition of the word and perverts Lenin's legacy horribly.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:13:53 2014 No.24193

>>24156
>I'm talking about a free market, not the corrupt inflationary system we have today you massive fucking retard

In your picture you very plainly implied that Hong Kong was a wondrous place because of capitalism.

Now you're saying it's a "corrupt inflationary system"?

Can you please not backpedal, I'm trying to have an honest argument here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:14:53 2014 No.24196 >>24162 >Why are you on the capitalism board? Because not all socialists are against personal entrepreneurship.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:14:53 2014 No.24199 >>24187 99% percent of statistics are made up right on the spot

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:14:53 2014 No.24200 I talked to people at my employee owned grocery store about how we need to abolish capitalism in order to have collective ownership and they looked at me like an idiot. Am I doing something wrong?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:15:23 2014 No.24202 File: 50 KB, 300x300, 1389037075593.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >socialism thread Prepare to get your asses destroyed by anons who know basic economics. Don't worry kiddos, you'll grow out of it once you reach 16.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:15:53 2014 No.24205

>>24156

>that picture

Good thing we have those deadbeat meth heads to drive our consumer good around America making pennies per mile, not even enough to feed the family they abandoned to drive for months at a time.

CAPITALISM GREAT. FREEMARKET SUPERIOR.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:16:24 2014 No.24206 >>24187 >Socialism has failed everywhere it's been tried. Sweden?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:17:23 2014 No.24215 File: 30 KB, 263x396, epic.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24202 le epic adult libertardian freemarket face!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:17:23 2014 No.24216 >>24202 >Prepare to get your asses destroyed by anons who know basic economics. We're still waiting

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:17:53 2014 No.24218 >>24143 > vanilla market competition, but with more co-ops So the status quo, but make companies give voting stock to workers.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:17:53 2014 No.24219

>>24162
because this board is supposed to also discuss financial policy, something very relevant to socialism. Also, whether at the state or privately-owned level, financial institutions, strategies, and business models would still continue to exist in any realistic socialist economy.
also, cost of food is kept down by government subsidies and other assistance, not by capitalism, and utility companies in 1st world societies are so heavily regulated they might as well not exist as private entities

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:18:53 2014 No.24229 >>24205 >to feed the family they abandoned to drive for months at a time. Make the distinction that they were forced to because otherwise they would have to bust their ass lifting boxes in the back of a walmart for 20 hours a week at minimum wage.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:19:24 2014 No.24244

>>24191
>see, this is why people hate ameriburger libertardians
Awww, someone destroyed your economic fallacies?

>>24193
>In your picture you very plainly implied that Hong Kong was a wondrous place because of capitalism.
We don't use terms like capitalism or socialism. That image was to show socialists what they think of "capitalism" is actually pretty amazing.

>>24196
>Because not all socialists are against personal entrepreneurship.
Those would be called hypocrites.

>>24199
Yes, that totally makes sense, socialists don't want to have the state or some entity take over businesses and redistribute wealth, they totally support free markets.....
WOW are you a dumbass.

>>24215
>socialist projecting about his fedora tipping ways
Back to reddit.

>>24206
>Sweden?
Yes, sweden is socialist, that totally makes sense, I mean wow I've never thought of that before. So is canada and Hong Kong.

>>24219
>because this board is supposed to also discuss financial policy, something very relevant to socialism.
It's not reliant at all.

>and business models would still continue to exist in any realistic socialist economy.
Socialism would destroy these things lol. You're just making shit up now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:19:24 2014 No.24246 File: 76 KB, 526x203, Truck-Driver-Salary-Facts.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24205 Protip: don't say things that can be disproved with a 10 second google search.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:19:53 2014 No.24239 >>24202 Butthurt much? Prepared to get your ass destroyed by those with basic understanding of logic and economics Clapistani.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:20:24 2014 No.24253
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>>24239
>Prepared to get your ass destroyed by those with basic understanding of logic and economics
Yes because everyone on this board is wrong and you're right because your professor taught you marxism.

Top Kek my sides cannot take it.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:20:53 2014 No.24249

>>24187
>By socialism I meant what 99% of socialists commonly call socialism
yep, you are just like asshole atheists on the internet who insist on telling believers that if they don't accept a very specific version of their claimed faith then they're not actually members of that faith at all. take your True Scottsman fallcy somewhere else

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:21:53 2014 No.24256 >>24244 >Those would be called hypocrites. So you confirm once again you don't even know what socialism is and refuse to accept that your definition is distorted by your own assmad and lack of a proper education. Good to know.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:21:53 2014 No.24260

>>24244
>"capitalism" is actually pretty amazing

So now it is capitalism, amazing, and not corrupt inflationary system?

How retarded can one person get?

You're backpedaling so hard, you should probably watch out you might trip on your trench coat and epic fedora.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:22:23 2014 No.24263 >>24205 >>24246 #REKT

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>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:22:53 2014 No.24267 >>24249 >that if they don't accept a very specific version of their claimed faith THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU THINK PEOPLE MEAN WHEN THEY SAY SOCIALISTS? WHAT DO YOU THINK SOCIALISTS ACTUALLY WANT?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:23:23 2014 No.24274 >>24205 >not even enough to feed the family they abandoned to drive for months at a time. truck drivers tend to make excellent pay, so they shouldn't have any trouble feeding a typical family of 4

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:23:53 2014 No.24275 >>23863 Those guys are strait up communists and killed millions of their own people either through mass starvation or political terror.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:24:23 2014 No.24278

>>24256
>So you confirm once again you don't even know what socialism is
Yes, it's state or "worker" control of firms.

Socialists want to take over firms, and the people on this board do not want that to happen.
Please leave.

>>24260
>So now it is capitalism, amazing, and not corrupt inflationary system?
Hong kong is one of the least inflationary corrupt systems even though it still is.

>How retarded can one person get?
You're actually dumb enough to be brainwashed into wanting all your free choice taken away. Please kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:24:53 2014 No.24280 >>24253 >marxism >socialism get your -isms straight. >>24267 This guy is obviously just a troll. Nobody can be this retarded.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:25:54 2014 No.24285

>>24274
>>24246

I was a truck drive for 5 years hauling dirt between three states for a well established company. If you've read a classified section of a local newspaper, you've seen it.

You would not believe the kind of expenses you have shell out of your own pay just to keep your job.. that week. I barely made $10/hour after taxes and expenses.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:25:54 2014 No.24288 File: 43 KB, 720x540, kZZoz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SAGE REPORT AND MOVE ON

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:26:53 2014 No.24296 File: 240 KB, 400x258, soviet.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >socialist economics Yeah, because that works, snrk.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:27:01 2014 No.24306 I'll start consider the whole forced collectivization thing if it doesn't result in famine and mass violence. If Lenin himself had to renege on his philosophy through the NEP then there is no hope any more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:27:31 2014 No.24300 >>24253 Maybe you should learn actual Marxism? But if you're fine with "Strawman 101" from "Lolbertard U" then thats fine. Heres a site where you mtre actually educate yourself without bias: http://www.marxism.org/

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:27:31 2014 No.24301

>>24280
>This guy is obviously just a troll. Nobody can be this retarded.

>socialism means what I want it to mean
>common usage is

You don't even want to fucking argue, you just want to bitch about semantics.

It's like you're saying not all people who are pro-choice are for abortion.

>get your -isms straight.
Marxism is a fucking form of socialism, how dumb can you get?
Why do you people exist?

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:28:01 2014 No.24316
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>>24300
>Maybe you should learn actual Marxism?
I HAVE.

Anyone with half a brain realizes it's retarded. Read this.
They don't even believe in human nature for fuck sakes lol.

Marxism is fucking cancer.

Please stop shitting up the capitalism board with your childish behavior.
Why do you think scientists call them retards?

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:28:32 2014 No.24310

>>24267
that's variable, just like any ideology. there are a lot of variants and different sects of socialism, some so widely different from one other that each will claim about each other of not being "truly socialist".

also, learn to read whole sentences instead of just picking out what you got from the middle.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:29:01 2014 No.24326

>>24310
>socialism can mean anything I want
>it can even mean capitalism, or bananas if I so wish
>don't tell me what to do

Socialists have something genetically wrong with their brains. The center responsible for logic and rationality is simply not there. This is not an insult, I'm serious.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:29:31 2014 No.24318

>>24278
>Socialists want to take over firms, and the people on this board do not want that to happen.

And why, pray tell, does a board dedicated to discussing profits and the maximization of profits not want that to happen?

You've backed yourself into a corner.

>>	PlατΩ ( ´∀｀) !!kGRAAvdSlhs Sat Feb 15 03:29:31 2014 No.24319 File: 16 KB, 150x150, 1392452959495.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Guise, can't we all just get along? Class collaboration instead of class conflict.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:29:31 2014 No.24320 >>24288 He didn't follow my specific brand of infallible socialism. And if you criticize him you must be a supporter of the last tin pot dictator before him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:30:01 2014 No.24329 >>24316 >They don't even believe in human nature for fuck sakes lol. There is no such thing as human nature.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:30:01 2014 No.24331 >>24288 I'm a socialist and Che doesn't represent anything to me! But go on about how plenty of Libertarians don't hate "blacks" and "gays" and go onto promote "hope" and "freedom'.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:30:31 2014 No.24327 >>24280 >This guy is obviously just a troll. Nobody can be this retarded. No, they do exist. There are plenty of people who legitimately are that retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:31:01 2014 No.24335 >>24318 Because they don't want someone else making decisions for their own company against their will? Things like this would have happened spontaneously if boards wanted it.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:31:01 2014 No.24336

>>24318
>does a board dedicated to discussing profits and the maximization of profits not want that to happen?
Yes and profits allow firms to expand which increases wages and lowers prices(in a system of free banking and thus deflationary currency).
Why the fuck would people fight against their own freedom?

Marxist economics has been debunked a million times.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:31:01 2014 No.24338

>>24301

>You don't even want to fucking argue, you just want to bitch about semantics.

Why would I want to argue with a shitposter who refuses to accept a real, historical distinction within socialist thought because it would mean he has a poor understanding of the subject he's raging about?

>Marxism is a fucking form of socialism, how dumb can you get?

Did I deny that? No. But I don't treat Marxism and Socialism as synonyms like you do because I have a basic education to know that the two are not necessarily one and the same and socialist states and parties can be socialist without seeking the same aims as the Marxist/Communist societies. If you can't understand that, then you just prove yourself to be a complete obstinate retard.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:32:02 2014 No.24343
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>>24329
>There is no such thing as human nature.

THERE YOU HAVE IT FOLKS

MARXISTS, RIGHT OUT IN THE OPEN

THIS IS WHAT THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVE

THERE'S NO INSTINCTS OR BIOLOGICAL OR NEUROSCIENCE OR ANY OF THAT

IT'S JUST "SOCIAL CONSTUCTS" AND "BASE AND SUPERSTRUCTURE"

THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS

TOPPEST OF ALL KEKS

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:32:02 2014 No.24344 >>24319 Maybe when the upper middle class stop trying to co-opt the working class poor. omg i have so many college loans :)!!! i'm so poooor :)!!! Posted from my iPad

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:32:02 2014 No.24345 >>24329 It's more like a euphemism for self interest. And you really can't take it away. Believe me, China and the USSR tried. Hard.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:32:02 2014 No.24346

>>24320
>And if you criticize him you must be a supporter of the last tin pot dictator before him.

If I say that Nikita Khrushchev was better than Joseph Stalin, does that mean that I inherently think that Khrushchev was a great person who did everything right?

God, Communists are fucking mindblowingly retarded.

>>	PlατΩ ( ´∀｀) !!kGRAAvdSlhs Sat Feb 15 03:33:32 2014 No.24351 >>24336 Free banking doesn't guarantee deflation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:33:32 2014 No.24352 >>24316 >I HAVE Yeah wall of text by Randian tards doesn't count sorry. You have to do your own homework!

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:34:01 2014 No.24355
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>>24331
>But go on about how plenty of Libertarians don't hate "blacks" and "gays" and go onto promote "hope" and "freedom'.
>ALL LIBERTARIANS ARE RACIST

The ride never ends.

Can you stop calling yourself socialist and be honest about it, you're an authoritarian.

>>24338
>who refuses to accept a real, historical distinction within socialist thought
Then call yourself a market socialist then you angry child.
Calling yourself a "socialist" socialist means you DO want to take over businesses and redistribute wealth.

Get off the capitalism board.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:35:01 2014 No.24362 >>24345 Which is also why a pure free market wouldn't work any better, especially if we understand corporations to be little more than states within states.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:35:01 2014 No.24364 >>24346 And Stalin was probably better than his predecessor too. That doesn't redeem him as an un-terrible leader.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:35:31 2014 No.24358 >>24343 Behavior is learned. You're up against thousands of established and undisputed (except on 4chan I suppose) science here, bud.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:35:31 2014 No.24361 File: 25 KB, 147x228, 1391491890832.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24352 >R-Randian!

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:36:31 2014 No.24368

>>24326
nice strawman there, bro.
Let me guess, you're next going to tell me that Protestants have this attitude towards Christianity:
>christianity can mean anything I want
>it can even mean confucianism, or bananas if I so wish
>don't tell me what to do

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:37:31 2014 No.24370 >>24358 thousands of years of*

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:38:01 2014 No.24382

>>24364
I'd actually argue that Stalin was way worse than the Tsar.
Really, that whole region has been a mess for centuries, and Putin isn't helping.
At least they're moving away from Communism, and that's always something, even if everything else is still shit.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:38:31 2014 No.24376

>>24355
>Calling yourself a "socialist" socialist means you DO want to take over businesses and redistribute wealth.

Yes, but not all businesses and not all wealth. Having both a public sector and a taxed private sector is the staple of pretty much every society currently existed, "socialist" and "non-socialist" alike.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:38:31 2014 No.24377

>>24346
>God, Communists are fucking mindblowingly retarded.
The guy you were replying to was being sarcastic, bro.

>>24352
>Randian
LOL
Awww that's so cute, you're repeating talking points again.
Libertarians don't even like or care for rand at all. She hated libertarians.

Read the wall of text, it shows just a few reasons why marxism is impossible and retarded.

You're a secular CREATIONIST. You don't believe in evolution or apply it to human beings.

>>24358
>Behavior is learned.
>INSTINCTS DON'T EXIST
>SCIENCE IS EVIL AND RACIST
>EVOLUTION DOESN'T EXIST

Holy motherfucking shit

You people are literally insane. Nobody believes anything you say.

Please, go on /sci/ and peddle this secular creationism I fucking DARE you.

The human brain and it's complex structure DOES exist. Human beings can not be infinitely socially engineered.

We are monkeys with a neocortex, deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:38:31 2014 No.24378 >>24355 >HURP MUH CHARTS Hmmn, I don't like I Che I think he's shit, but I've had enough experience on this board to know most Lolbertarians are paranoid racist and thats a fact, try to to delude us otherwise we know what your ilk are!

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:38:31 2014 No.24379 >>24362 Government regulation and oversight is an accepted fact of modern capitalism. But the foundations of private ownership is still intact even with regulation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:39:01 2014 No.24388 >>24379 Then what about Socialist Anarchism shill?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:39:01 2014 No.24390 >>24379 That's essentially a socialist principle.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:39:01 2014 No.24391 File: 1.98 MB, 400x219, gta-the-joke.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24029 >>24057

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:39:31 2014 No.24387
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>>24358
>Behavior is learned. You're up against thousands of established and undisputed (except on 4chan I suppose) science here, bud.

My sides cannot take it anymore, seriously.

Marxists are basically admitting they don't believe in evolution now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:40:01 2014 No.24396 File: 1.08 MB, 640x360, 1392244569242.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24358 >Behavior is learned. You're up against thousands of established and undisputed (except on 4chan I suppose) science here, bud.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:41:01 2014 No.24399 Marxist vs libertardian thread whoever wins... We lose.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:41:01 2014 No.24401 >>24358 Behavior is a mixture of instinct and learned. Your 19th century pop psychology is not going to change the fact that people will look out for themselves unless they're in a cult or something.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:42:01 2014 No.24408

>>24368
You know what people are talking about when they say socialism. Stop redefining words.

But if you're still a faggot about it okay then, I'll say this instead

95% of socialists want to destroy all businesses and entrepreneurs.
Which is a fact.

If you hate everyone on this board so much you need to go.

>>24376
>Yes, but not all businesses and not all wealth
Then you're a social democrat.

>>24378
>Lolbertarians are paranoid racist
DAS RACISS

My sides, you people couldn't be more typical
Next you're going to whine about fox news right. Lol this is hilarious.

>ilk
*tips fedora*

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:42:31 2014 No.24404 File: 235 KB, 972x620, anarchist_spain.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Social Anarchism is the best Socialism

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:43:03 2014 No.24412 File: 98 KB, 400x400, chomsky.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24404 I'll just leave this here. http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/spain.htm

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:43:03 2014 No.24414 File: 1.14 MB, 680x1671, merely-an-act.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24391

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:44:02 2014 No.24420
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>>24358
>human instincts don't exist

Just one of 9359823892374 reasons marxism is a complete joke.

Why do people fall for this bullshit?

>testoterone doesn't exist, males act the way they do because they're socially constructed that way

Wow....

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:44:02 2014 No.24423 >>24408 >Then you're a social democrat. Which is a form of socialism

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:44:32 2014 No.24416 >>24390 Socialism revolves collective ownership of the means of production, which is the anthesis of sole proprietorship and private ownership in capitalism. Contrary to American news media a regulatory agency or a safety standard is NOT socialism.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:45:02 2014 No.24431 >>24423 >Which is a form of socialism Fine, but not total socialism, which is what this thread was created for. See OP(your) image.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:46:02 2014 No.24436 >>23863 socialism so moe!

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:47:02 2014 No.24445 >>24358 Counterpoint - babies are selfish assholes.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:47:32 2014 No.24439

>>24387
If behavior was inherit, there would be no room for survival of the fittest. Everyone makes the same behavioral mistakes, so who comes out on top? Nobody.

You have to learn from who survived.

I learned my behavior from my surroundings because it is this specific state of surrounding that managed to survive the harsh world so far.

You should probably read about evolution before you try to step to me, fuck boy.

>>24401
The need to feed yourself is not behavior. Don't try to conflate them. Every biological entity knows to feed themselves, but none of them know from birth how to interact with others in different situations.

>>24420
>your face when you realize testosterone is present even in males whose mothers beat them until they wore a pink dress.

You retards and your no fap shit treat testosterone like it's a mood. It's a chemical in your cells, and it has little to do with how you behave in social situations.

>>	PlατΩ ( ´∀｀) !!kGRAAvdSlhs Sat Feb 15 03:47:32 2014 No.24440 Social democrats and anarchists are so lame. They miss out on all of the fun parts of socialism, like the camps.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:47:32 2014 No.24441 File: 1.60 MB, 228x180, merry-negro.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24358

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:48:02 2014 No.24451

>>24431
>Fine, but not total socialism, which is what this thread was created for. See OP(your) image.

I'm not OP and this thread is a socialism GENERAL, which may or may not include Marxists. You're breathing too much into an image that is meant to be a joke.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:48:32 2014 No.24449 >>24412 >that picture But Anarchists aren't against violence. Only Anarcho-pacifists are. Some even say that revolution is only possible through violence.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:50:03 2014 No.24460
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>>24439
>You retards and your no fap shit treat testosterone like it's a mood. It's a chemical in your cells, and it has little to do with how you behave in social situations.

To put it bluntly, the brain is more or less a chemical computer, and your mood is pretty much dependent on your state of chemicals.

This is not hard.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:50:03 2014 No.24462

>>24439
>none of them know from birth how to interact with others in different situations.

Self interest isn't social interaction. It's self preservation.

If selfishness is a learned behavior you might as well go all the way and aim for a society based on the honor system and have no law enforcement.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:51:02 2014 No.24467

>>24445
They're hungry and they act that way because they haven't yet been taught to behave as a civilized human being. You proved my point.

Now, I'll give you an example. Why does my niece, who has black skin, not act like a hood rat? She was born from a hood rat and given up for adoption. My very white brother and his wife adopted her 7 years ago. She is now a well behaved and adjusted little kid.

If behavior is inherited genetically, why doesn't she act like a fucking hoodlum?

Explain please. I want you to try. It'll be funny to me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:51:32 2014 No.24464 File: 6 KB, 866x92, snip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24414 Allright man, try to read what pic related was saying and then read it again. Does this guy you were responding to really sound that serious?

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:53:02 2014 No.24476

>>24029
Capitalism is as much a utopia as communism, it does not exist. We're controlled by the government and the elites in every country except for maybe central african shitholes.

Without a healthy dose of socialistic measures most people would suffer through their lives no matter how much they work since the capitalist world discards people as soon as they're either too old or sick or a threat (read: too good) or whatever.

And to make it clear, yes, I'm from Russia and no, USSR was not a socialist country except for the last few years of its existence (though the economic situation was already beyond repair), it was just a totalitarian slavery country and not an example of how socialism is supposed to work. Proper modern socialism does not exclude free market either, it's still built on it, so it's very /biz/. Just with more social responsibilities.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:53:32 2014 No.24474

>>24439
>If behavior was inherit,
It is.
You're ACTUALLY denying this.
My sides are in orbit.

This is what marxists ACTUALLY believe.

>I learned my behavior from my surroundings because it is this specific state of surrounding that managed to survive the harsh world so far.
You do learn some things from surroundings yes, the brain is programmed for you to learn such things. But your behavior in general is determined by your instincts.

>It's a chemical in your cells, and it has little to do with how you behave in social situations.
AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH

OH MY GOD YOU'RE SERIOUS

AHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:54:33 2014 No.24484 >>24449 >But Anarchists aren't against violence. Ancaps are. Ansyns are just statists.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:55:02 2014 No.24495 >>24416 Fundamentally, they are actually and contradict the idea of a truly free market.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:55:32 2014 No.24489

>>24460
You went on an unrelated tangent there. How is that related to behavior?

>>24474
>It is.

Okay. Explain this.

>Why does my niece, who has black skin, not act like a hood rat? She was born from a hood rat and given up for adoption. My very white brother and his wife adopted her 7 years ago. She is now a well behaved and adjusted little kid.

>If behavior is inherited genetically, why doesn't she act like a fucking hoodlum?

Let's see how you can reply to that with "It is." This should be creative at least.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:55:32 2014 No.24491 >>24358 The problem with this is that the capacity to learn anything and how well you learn is influenced by your genes. Therefore no behavior ever be 100% nurture.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:55:32 2014 No.24492
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>>24476
>Without a healthy dose of socialistic measures most people would suffer through their lives no matter how much they work
Absolute bullshit.
If the state wasn't destroying and manipulating markets, people would be much better off.

Look how fucking cheap the free market made healthcare before the state took it over.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:56:02 2014 No.24504

>>24489
>>Why does my niece, who has black skin, not act like a hood rat? She was born from a hood rat and given up for adoption. My very white brother and his wife adopted her 7 years ago. She is now a well behaved and adjusted little kid.

Because not all black people are like that? She would still have some genes and a tendency to not be interested in technical things and sports though.

>This should be creative at least.
You just admitted you are a creationist, this is not the time for witty reddit remarks

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:56:32 2014 No.24500 >>24484 Ancaps aren't anarchists. They're just neoliberals. Please let's be serious here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:57:02 2014 No.24507 >>24467 Once again you're mistaking self-interest with some very specific behavior instead of a pattern. It's the drive that makes you put your own or the people you care about's survival above others. That's it. And that's not negotiable in people.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:57:02 2014 No.24510
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>>24500
>Ancaps aren't anarchists.
Lol left anarchists do nothing but whine when state power is decreased.

Ancaps are the only anarchists.
http://royhalliday.home.mindspring.com/history.htm

>>	PlατΩ ( ´∀｀) !!kGRAAvdSlhs Sat Feb 15 03:58:03 2014 No.24515 >>24500 >They're just neoliberals. No they aren't.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:58:03 2014 No.24516
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>oh wow an economy board
>"Socialist Economics General"
Welp, I guess I just can't talk about economics or business with actual adults on 4chan then. Enjoy your pinko circlejerk.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:58:03 2014 No.24519 >>24476 Capitalism and socialism are ends of a very, very vague spectrum and things tend to get better near the capitalism area.

>>	Steven Pinker Sat Feb 15 03:59:32 2014 No.24521 File: 20 KB, 460x276, pinker_3[3].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24358 >Behavior is learned. You're up against thousands of established and undisputed (except on 4chan I suppose) science here, bud. Damn, you owe me a new pair of sides.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:59:32 2014 No.24525

>>24492
You know healthcare is free here... So... yeah.

The quality may not be stellar, but that's more because of corruption and general stupidity. It's still good enough to cure most things except for the very serious shit that's hard to cure anywhere really.

But I'm not saying free market is bad, free market, albeit with some social resposibility regulations, is the best thing ever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:00:02 2014 No.24534 >>24525 >You know healthcare is free here... So... yeah. Lol no it's not, you pay like 40-50% of your income for it, and it's horrible with long waiting times lol Holy fuck are you ever brainwashed. You want people to be worse off. It's sad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:00:32 2014 No.24528 >>24504 >She would still have some genes and a tendency to not be interested in technical things and sports though. This. She's a trained monkey. She'll still chimp out given the right circumstances. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1gUdxOxsKg

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:00:32 2014 No.24535 >>24510 >>24516 Jesus I'm not a Marxist but can you quit it with the reddit meme shit? It just makes you look retarded

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:02:02 2014 No.24539 >>24504 >Because not all black people are like that? According to you behavior is genetic, but her behavior is unlike her biological mother and very much like her adoptive parents. Why is that if behavior is not learned?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:02:02 2014 No.24543 File: 183 KB, 720x960, 1386130951979.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24535 >r-reddit They didn't invent captioned images, nor do they hold a monopoly on them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:03:33 2014 No.24546 >>24510 >>24515 lel americans.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:03:33 2014 No.24548 >>24495 In the same way that indigo is a shade of red because it contains a tiny bit of purple.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:04:32 2014 No.24556 >>24543 They aren't funny

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:04:32 2014 No.24557
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>>24539
>According to you behavior is genetic
No, it's mostly genetic but society has some role to play.

>but her behavior is unlike her biological mother
Pic related.
Also see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:05:32 2014 No.24563 File: 124 KB, 639x770, 1359223454775.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24546 >lel americans. This is all socialists have left. lol It's hilarious watching them defend their own enslavement.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:06:02 2014 No.24571 File: 32 KB, 323x500, The_Blank_Slate[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24358 >actually believes in blank slate theory Seriously? You people still exist?

>>	PlατΩ ( ´∀｀) !!kGRAAvdSlhs Sat Feb 15 04:06:32 2014 No.24567 >>24546 Saying that ancaps are just neoliberals is like saying ancoms are just neokeynesians.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:07:02 2014 No.24572 I see the intelligent /biz/ posters are asleep right now

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:08:33 2014 No.24573 >>24378 You must be missing something. Libertarian in this graph is the name given to the nature of the opposite of Authoritarian, it doesn't represent the Libertarian party.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:08:33 2014 No.24574 >>24546 No, that's what Greek "anarchists" are doing too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:08:33 2014 No.24576 >>24572 America is sleeping.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:09:02 2014 No.24580 >>24378 >Lolbertarians are paranoid racist You're the same fucking faggot who keeps using the word "lolbertarian" How clever you sycophantic shitstain. Back to reddit.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:09:02 2014 No.24582

>>24534
Not really 40-50, that's more than all of the taxes combined, and I doubt you have less tax in more developed more capitalist countries. If anything, our tax for workers is not high at all, though our taxes for companies can be indeed pretty severe.

Where are waiting times not long? There's always more sick people than doctors available.

At least you can go and buy most general medicine for cheap without any prescription - though I know that it's more country-specific thing and not exactly related to the topic in question.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:10:32 2014 No.24586 >>24572 Don't worry, the Australian posters will go scorched earth on the entire board to make it match their homeland.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:11:02 2014 No.24590

>>24582
>Not really 40-50, that's more than all of the taxes combined, and I doubt you have less tax in more developed more capitalist countries.
Why the fuck would you want to pay taxes at all for a violent controlled system when you could pay less than one days wage and get all the healthcare you desired?
>There's always more sick people than doctors available.
No there isn't you bootlicker.

In a free market there would be an abundance of doctors to meet the demand for patients.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:12:02 2014 No.24597 File: 8 KB, 252x200, images.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] /biz/ I love you, let us never have this thread EVER again. Thank you.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:12:33 2014 No.24592

>>24548

That's part of my point actually. The arguments between "socialism" "communism" and "capitalism" are kind of retarded because most countries which follow principles of capitalism depend on social programs managed by the government and regulation in order to actually function. Likewise, socialist (read communist here) states tend to find themselves, for all their rhetoric, dependent on a private sector in the end anyway and gradually are forced to move away from the pure ideals of the revolutions which gave birth to them. However, to be able identify as "capitalist" or "socialist" is politically necessary.

I don't identify with any category myself because they're pretty hard to define at the end of the day, but as far as the term I think generally describes most of the world today, "socialist" might be more appropriate than others. I repeat, might. Simply because most states incorporates some principles from historical socialist economic theory.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:13:02 2014 No.24606 File: 268 KB, 421x1000, 1392340749661.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SAGE REPORT AND MOVE ON

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:13:02 2014 No.24607

>>24557
>but society has some role to play.

Full backpedal mode.

>>24571
Do you realize your guy Pinker is more than generally considered to be a giant retard by everyone in every field he "participates" in? A pop science cash grab book deal kinda guy? He's just under anti-vaccine level of bullshit.

If he's not wrong, why isn't he publishing papers and not books with ugly dustcovers?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:14:21 2014 No.24609 >>24597 I think we should have socialism generals

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:14:49 2014 No.24613 >>24597 It's a real bad thread, no good arguments on either side really. Just shit flinging.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:15:19 2014 No.24620

>>24607
>Full backpedal mode.
No, lol I never said society didn't have a role to play. You actually believe all human behavior is socially constructed.

YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION

>>24607
>Do you realize your guy Pinker is more than generally considered to be a giant retard
AHAHAHHAHA OH GOD

The only people who are against him are irrelevant marxists. All he's doing is saying what everyone else is thinking.

You don't even believe in brain chemistry or human instincts. You're actually that stupid.

>why isn't he publishing papers
He is?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:16:20 2014 No.24628 >>24609 >I think we should have socialism generals It has nothing to do with anything on this board. Get the fuck back to /pol/ Never come back you economics, finance and business hating piece of shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:16:49 2014 No.24625 >>24580 Ok freemarket Fascist's is that better?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:17:19 2014 No.24636 File: 109 KB, 512x437, 1349623334571.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24625 >reemarket Fascist >FREEDOM IS FASCISM >THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO CONTROL EVERYTHING >I'M TOO STUPID TO SEE THE IRONY IN MY STATEMENTS

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:18:49 2014 No.24639 >>24628 socialist economics have a lot to do with business, thanks mister self-appointed king of biz

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:18:49 2014 No.24641 >>24557 Not the guy you're talking to, but "race" isn't a concept outside of sociology. "Black people" is a meaningless phrase when you're dealing with genetics and the fact that North Africans have fuck all to do with South Africans genetically.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:19:49 2014 No.24642

>>24539
>everything is black and white, there is no inbetween
Behavior can very well be learned, yes, but you'd have to be a fool to think that it's 100% learned.

For instance, men and women are inherently different from each other, always have, always will be, but that doesn't mean that every man and woman has to be.

>>	PlατΩ ( ´∀｀) !!kGRAAvdSlhs Sat Feb 15 04:19:49 2014 No.24643 >>24625 Don't confuse us with them.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:20:19 2014 No.24652
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>>24639
>socialist economics have a lot to do with business
Socialist economics want to destroy business.
This is by definition what they want to do.

>thanks mister self-appointed king of biz
>HAY LET ME INSERT RELIGION INTO YOUR SCIENCE BOARD
No, get out.

>>24641
>Not the guy you're talking to, but "race" isn't a concept outside of sociology.
Cute.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:20:49 2014 No.24649 >>24642 >all men and women are different >some men aren't different lol, ok dude

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:21:20 2014 No.24658 File: 30 KB, 463x355, creationists[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24649 >lol, ok dude >being a creationist >admitting you are a creationist Socialist please.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:22:19 2014 No.24664 >>24652 Socialist economics have a lot to do with business whether you like it or not. You can throw a tantrum if you want but I am going to keep making threads about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:22:49 2014 No.24662 >>24628 Every economic system coincides with some political ideology dumbass, its almost impossible to avoid; we could just aswell tell Libertarians ton fuck off to /pol too.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:23:19 2014 No.24666

>>24642
>>24642
>men and women are inherently different from each other

What? You mean one has a benis and one gotta bagina? What you're saying is house wife-level "men from mars" bullshit.

>>24620
>You don't even believe in brain chemistry or human instincts. You're actually that stupid.

That's where you're wrong, kid. Behavior has nothing to do with instinct. Backpedal some more please.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:23:49 2014 No.24667 I can't WAIT until the petrodollar collapses and all these socialist children living with their parents starve to death.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:24:19 2014 No.24673 >>24592 Economic systems might come in shades but you still need to identify some recognizable ones just so you can categorize them at least a little bit.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:24:19 2014 No.24675
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>>24649
>intentionally missing the point
Men and women have certain behaviors due to hormones, chromosomes and other chemicals.
If you compare a male brain to a female brain, they're not 100% identical. Now, no brain would be 100% identical to the other, but male brains have certain patterns, and female brains have certain patterns.

Do I have to spoonfeed you further, or are you going to continue to act obtuse?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:24:20 2014 No.24678 >>24667 Anyone get a laugh at Spain begging Israeli and American Jews to spend money there by giving them citizenship since 400 years ago they were kicked out?

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:25:20 2014 No.24679

>>24662
>we could just aswell tell Libertarians ton fuck off to /pol too.
But libertarianism has to do with business and finance.

Socialism does not.

Stop shitting up our economics board with your religion.

>>24664
>Socialist economics have a lot to do with business whether you like it or not.
No they don't. The goal of socialism is to destroy capitalism, which is the point of this board.

Evert time you post here now you're going to get people like me telling to you leave, you'd probably get banned for off-topic shitposting as well.

>You can throw a tantrum
The ironing. lel

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:25:20 2014 No.24684 >>24675 >X and Y are different >Some X are not different i.e. >X is not Y >Some X is Y You don't see the contradiciton here?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:26:19 2014 No.24690 >>24667 God bless the military industrial complex :DDDDDD

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:26:19 2014 No.24691 >>24679 >accusing others of shitposting while openly admitting you'd spam thread you don't like There's this thing called hide for a reason, faglord. The only one getting banned is you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:26:49 2014 No.24687 >>24641 Dude its a biological fact that races and different racial patterns exist. any scientist will tell you this

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:26:49 2014 No.24689
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>>24666
>Behavior has nothing to do with instinct.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

OH GOD

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>hormones and brain chemicals don't control human behavior
You people actually fucking believe this

HAHAHHAHA

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:27:19 2014 No.24697 >>24679 >Stop shitting up our economics board with your religion. Socialism is an alternative economic theorem to capitalism, you don't it? Too bad. You could easily ignore out generals but feel the need to shitpost yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:27:19 2014 No.24698 >>24678 Spain was just... outrageously and hilariously incompetent at managing its money affairs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:27:19 2014 No.24700 File: 126 KB, 1488x833, 1354763438444.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24689 >>24687 >>24675 NO IT'S NOT TRUE YOU'RE JUST AN EVIL BOURGEOISIE EXPLOITING ME STOP TRIGGERING ME FUCKING ABLEISTS!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:27:49 2014 No.24694 >>24691 >posting anti-business on the business board Yeah ok.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:28:49 2014 No.24704 >>24694 It's not anti-business. You're just a shitposter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:29:19 2014 No.24709 >>24697 *like it

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:29:20 2014 No.24717

>>24691
>you'd spam thread you don't like
No.
What?
You're the spammer.

We would be the people telling you to stop spamming our board and to leave.

Now can you finally leave.

>>24697
>Socialism is an alternative economic theorem to capitalism, you don't it?
Yes and it has nothing to do with this board at all.

> You could easily ignore out generals
Lol what generals. There won't be any.

>>24704
Not even that guy, but YES, it's anti-business. You're talking about the fucking government taking over businesses and industries like fucking healthcare.

HOLY SHIT YOU'RE A FUCKING RETARD

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:29:49 2014 No.24711

>>24673

I just see most of the identifying labels we use now as being superficial, leftovers from an era where they had a real meaning and purpose. I think it's probably time we drop the old labels and come up with newer ones, unless we intend to redefine the old ones completely.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:30:20 2014 No.24726 File: 23 KB, 309x307, 13520827753345.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ITT: Socialist getting TOLD

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:30:49 2014 No.24720 >>24717 I'm not going to leave, you're just shitposting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:30:49 2014 No.24722 >>24704 >being against people making money isn't anti-business

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:31:49 2014 No.24728

The point of the board is business and finance, that doesn't have to be synonymous with capitalism; this is evident by ideologies like mutualism existing. You might disagree, but people aren't going to change anyone's minds with your obnoxious argumentative style trust me

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:32:19 2014 No.24729 >>24720 Be honest kid. You saw moot created a /biz/ board and decided to rage at an entire board dedicated to discussing and worshiping capitalism so you decided to make this thread in a little reddit tier "protest". Please go back to /pol/

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:32:49 2014 No.24733 >>24679 >Stop shitting up our economics board with your religion. Do you tell that to the Austrian economists too?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:32:49 2014 No.24736 >>24729 You're intolerant and a shitposter.

>>	Official Wrinkle Face™ creat(...) Sat Feb 15 04:33:19 2014 No.24740 Ugh -_- Shitposting everywhere, and not the good kind -_-

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:33:49 2014 No.24743 File: 13 KB, 200x211, asspained.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24704 >communism isn't anti-capitalism, you're just a shitposter

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:34:19 2014 No.24747

>>24675
You're kinda getting there, but you're not quite connecting the dots.

You see, when someone is growing up they learn behaviors and such from people around them. Sometimes they encounter scary situations and their nervous system shoots chemicals into their brain and their brain chooses a particular reaction. Depending on what you've learned, that reaction could be many things.

No one is born with a brain that reacts to "boo!" with throwing a punch or jumping out of their skin. You learn that. Sometimes men grow up to be wimps, mostly not. Sometimes women are raised to be super aggressive. It has nothing to do with any kind of male/female thing you mentioned.

To say otherwise is essentially denying that there are no feminine men and no masculine women. Everyone is different. It's all depends on who your parents and peers are.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:34:19 2014 No.24750

>>24728
>that doesn't have to be synonymous with capitalism;
Capitalism IS business and finance.

Socialism is the destruction of business and finance.

Stop whining about "market socialism", which you are not, and which is irrelevant anyway.

Go away.

>this is evident by ideologies like mutualism existing
Mutualism is the only left wing ideology that is okay here because it's pro-free market. Anything else including anarcho-syndicalism is off-topic POLITICS garbage.

This isn't a POLITICS board.
Fuck off

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:34:49 2014 No.24754

>>24717
>Yes and it has nothing to do with this board at all.
Yes it is a form economics so it does.
>Lol what generals. There won't be any.
Oh like the one you're currently posting in? There will be many more for you to shitpost in don't worry it, but continue to be afraid little capitalist. The serfs will not be content for much longer.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:36:19 2014 No.24772
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>>24733
>Do you tell that to the Austrian economists too?
Someone's a little upset.

>>24747
>You see, when someone is growing up they learn behaviors and such from people around them. Sometimes they encounter scary situations and their nervous system shoots chemicals into their brain and their brain chooses a particular reaction. Depending on what you've learned, that reaction could be many things.
Ugh, your pre-school understanding of neuroscience makes me stomach turn.
You don't understand what you're talking about.
The brain isn't a blank slate you can socially engineer.

>No one is born with a brain that reacts to "boo!" with throwing a punch or jumping out of their skin. You learn that.
Um, no that's instinctual as well.

>Sometimes men grow up to be wimps, mostly not.
Because they have more estrogen and certain chemicals in the womb and it alters the structure of the brain.

Anyway you've already been debunked here.
>>24689

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:37:19 2014 No.24780 File: 39 KB, 483x581, 1353372834095.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24747 I'm going to post this to /sci/. I want to see them laugh their fucking asses off. God damn you must be a troll.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:37:49 2014 No.24776 >>24689 The worst part about you, is that I know you actually believe the things you're shitposting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:39:49 2014 No.24794 >>24780 Be sure to link it to me. Also include all the stuff you said about behavior being purely genetic. Also include the picture you posted of "how to refute nigger arguments" or something like that. It'll be a funny thread, I can assure you.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:41:20 2014 No.24807

>>24754
>Yes it is a form economics so it does.
We just showed you that it's not.
There's no religion vs science threads allowed on /sci/
Also socialism is politics and has NOTHING to do with business or finance.

>Oh like the one you're currently posting in?
The one you made and everyone is calling you a massive faggot in?
Yeah thought so.

>There will be many more for you to shitpost in don't worry it,
Lol this is literally the first one on this board. There will be almost none after, and they will be considered spam.

Your tears are so tasty.

>little capitalist
>l-l-little c-capitalist
Top lel, dat fucking projection. You people deserve to be shot in the back of the head.

>The serfs will not be content for much longer.
YOU are the masters, you dumb authoritarian cunt. Kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:41:50 2014 No.24811 >>24776 what about it? we do have the ability to adapt, that doesn't null the facts he posted.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:42:49 2014 No.24818 >>24689 >MUH MRA PROPAGANDA (w/ no sources) Kill yourself.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:43:19 2014 No.24823
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>>24794
>Also include all the stuff you said about behavior being purely genetic.
Which I never said.
Lol oh god you people seriously deserve to suffocate, there's no reason for you to exist.

Your a literal creationist, you don't even believe human beings have instincts. What a horrible sheltered life you must live.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:44:19 2014 No.24834 File: 134 KB, 700x700, 1375049673559.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24818 >>MUH MRA PROPAGANDA >SCIENCE IS EVIL AND SEXIST >DIE CIS SCUM SRS you've been outed. Get the fuck out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:44:49 2014 No.24835 >this libertarian replying to every single post with inane shit this is just sad, maybe he has bi-polar and this is what he does in his manic phase. You've been at this for hours now haven't you?

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:44:49 2014 No.24838

>>24811
He did post facts.

He posted pictures from /pol/ and HAHAHA over and over.

>>24818
Don't give it any credibility. I wouldn't even compare it to anti-vaccine pop science articles.

>>24823
Why do you have two copies of the same shitty reaction image saved?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:45:19 2014 No.24843 >>24772 >Someone's a little upset. What? Austrian "economics" is almost the very definition of religion. I was just wondering if you gave the same treatment to them as you would socialists.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:45:19 2014 No.24845
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>>24818
>(w/ no sources)
Okay.
http://www2.nau.edu/~bio372-c/class/behavior/sexdif1.htm

The main person who did this study was a women btw

Stay mad you forever irrelevant marxist shitstain.
So glad your ideology is dead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:45:49 2014 No.24852 >>24834 What you posted was not "science", kid. Sorry to break it to you.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:46:49 2014 No.24860

>>24807
>We just showed you that it's not.
There's no religion vs science threads allowed on /sci/
Also socialism is politics and has NOTHING to do with business or finance.
>Socialism is a social and economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy. "Social ownership" may refer to cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership, citizen ownership of equity, or any combination of these.[3] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them. They differ in the type of social ownership they advocate, the degree to which they rely on markets or planning, how management is to be organised within productive institutions, and the role of the state in constructing socialism
DERP! Stay out of our general shithead!

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:47:49 2014 No.24871
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>>24776
>The worst part about you, is that I know you actually believe the things you're shitposting.
Yes I do believe in facts and science. lol

>He posted pictures from /pol/ and HAHAHA over and over.
And countless arguments you couldn't refute.
An image with a study proving you wrong.
Nobody in the world believes what you believe except for a few sects of crazy kooks.

>>24852
>What you posted was not "science", kid.
>FUCKING RACIST UNIVERSITY STUDIES BACKED BY ALL SCIENTISTS EVERYWHERE
>THAT'S NOT SCIENCE

My sides cannot take it.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:48:19 2014 No.24882

>>24845
That was published by a random subsidiary of Penguin publishing. It's not a peer reviewed paper. It's literally a pre-blog blog post.

I could publish a work that said niggers can't add 63 + 1923, but It wouldn't make it any more scientific than what you just linked simply because it was published.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:49:49 2014 No.24885 >>24818 >MRAMRAMRA Go back to tumblr, /biz/ is not a echochamber for communists and feminists.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:50:19 2014 No.24893
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>>24843
>is almost the very definition of religion
Yeah, that's called you being upset.

Did someone use logic to debunk your economic fallacies? Awww

>>24860
>Stay out of our general shithead!
No matter how long you force this "anti-business belongs on the business board" meme nobody will care.

You're a self hating communist SRS faggot from reddit.
You just admitted you were.

Get off of our board now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:50:49 2014 No.24901 >>24845 ah yes the scientific paper published by the same guys who published THE STINKY CHEESE MAN. i'm not even lying. it's on wikipedia.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:51:50 2014 No.24912 >>24845 >5 pages of propaganda Nice try white pride, I think >>>/pol? will be a more appropriate board for you should have posted a link to: http://www.offrampbums.com/goodwife.jpg just to make it official.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:53:49 2014 No.24922

>>24882
> It's not a peer reviewed paper.
Top Kek, the article refers to countless peer reviewed papers. Are you afraid to go deeper.

Do you know how unbelieavably easy it is to show the common fact that males and females have different brain structures?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131202161935.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience_of_gender_differences

Only YOU and other marxist psychopaths believe this, seriously.

You won't question your own beliefs no matter how much evidence people shove in your face.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:53:49 2014 No.24923 >>24912 >http://www.offrampbums.com/goodwife.jpg Well it WAS published so it must be a valid scientific paper. Using his logic anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:53:49 2014 No.24924 >>24885 Yeah just an echo chamber for lolbertarians and their free market delusionals.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:54:49 2014 No.24931 >>24923 Isn't that usual line of logic your ilk follows?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:55:19 2014 No.24932 >>>/pol/ saged

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:55:49 2014 No.24936
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>>24901
see
>>24922
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_human_psychology
inb4 >wikipedia
Scroll down to the bottom of this page and look at all of those sources, all of those peer reviewed papers all debunking you.

You people are compulsive liars.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:56:51 2014 No.24943 >>24893 >Yeah, that's called you being upset. Upset at what? I'm not advocating socialism, just saying that Austrian economics doesn't hold up empirically and it's the economic equivalent of "creation science". But keep projecting :^)

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:56:51 2014 No.24945
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>>24912
>>5 pages of propaganda
>actual science and studies that were done on people who had different hormones put into their brain at childbirth is PROPAGANDA

Oh god this is just too much.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:57:51 2014 No.24952 so much obvious samefagging ITT

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:57:51 2014 No.24953 >>24943 >just saying that Austrian economics doesn't hold up empirically Except all the times we were right and you were wrong. :^)

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:58:51 2014 No.24960

>>24912
>>24923
Provide evidence to the contrary or his view still holds more weight.

I'll stack his side even further before you do:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24034714

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24120551

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21820809

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2013/131122/ncomms3771/full/ncomms3771.html

These are the only ones I had in my history. Feel free to provide your counterevidence at any time.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:59:21 2014 No.24964

SRS please go.

You've been outed and your ideology has been put in plain view.

Incredible, you actually believe these things.

>>24924
>Yeah just an echo chamber for lolbertarians and their free market delusionals.
That's what it's been so far actually.
Stay mad as fuck.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:00:21 2014 No.24972
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>>24960
>I'll stack his side even further before you do:
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24034714
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24120551
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21820809
>http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2013/131122/ncomms3771/full/ncomms3771.html

Thanks bro.

It's absolutely incredible we even had to do this.
It's like
>THE SKY ISN'T BLUE AND GRASS ISN'T GREEN YOU FUCKING BOURGEOISIE CAPITALIST

I mean wow, just wow.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:01:22 2014 No.24984 >>24972 >japanese socialist being killed.gif Awesome.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:01:52 2014 No.24980

>>24922
>the article cherry picks countless peer reviewed papers

Fixed that one for you.

>he actually thinks "sciencedaily" is credible in any way

And nobody is refuting there are biological differences. But that's unrelated and a false flag.

>>24945
Once again there's no actual science involved in some cunt's blog post copy of "men are from mars".

>>24960
Hormones only explain why humans do things, not WHAT THINGS THEY DO.

Emphasis is very important, but you didn't actually read anything you linked so it didn't matter.

And once again, biological differences don't add up to much. We're not talking about biology here, anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:01:52 2014 No.24982 File: 296 KB, 1368x1121, 1392201794652.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>24924 Yes? It's the capitalist board, isn't it? Do you also come to /k/ and cry about firearms?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:03:21 2014 No.24992 >>24953 When legitimate economics is wrong, people ask why and we can learn more. When Austrian economics is wrong "le free market will fix it, don't you know economics isn't meant to be emprical anyway".

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:03:51 2014 No.24994 >>24972 You're not tricking anyone, you're quoting yourself. There's no shame in being the only one defending your side in this thread. That isn't what makes you wrong or right, fuck boy.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:04:51 2014 No.25002

>>24980
>Once again there's no actual science involved in some cunt's blog
Even if it references countless studies that do prove you wrong?
What's it going to take for you to wake up to reality.
ESTROGEN AND TESTOSTERONE EFFECTS HUMAN BEHAVIOR

>>24980
>Fixed that one for you.
Fixed what? lol
You're LYING and grasping for straws.

>And once again, biological differences don't add up to much. We're not talking about biology here, anyway.
Not him, but god fucking DAMN you're one stupid fuck.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:05:51 2014 No.25011
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>>25002
>ESTROGEN AND TESTOSTERONE EFFECTS HUMAN BEHAVIOR
Wait wait wait... Is there anyone that thinks otherwise?
How else do they think sex reassignment works? Magic and good will?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:05:51 2014 No.25012 >>25002 >Not him Yeah you are. Read the above post. You don't have to pretend.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:06:22 2014 No.25018

>>24992
>don't you know economics isn't meant to be emprical anyway".
All axioms are empirical.

>>24994
>You're not tricking anyone, you're quoting yourself.
That's literally not me. I do post a lot but I don't reply to my own post.

>There's no shame in being the only one defending your side in this thread.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA
Bud, can you project ANY harder? Seriously?

You're getting fucking pummeled.

You basically admitted you are a creationist in front of everyone here, then you admitted you were from SRS and also a socialist.

You don't belong here. Get out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:07:21 2014 No.25025 >>25011 Nobody has disagreed. He just keeps linking to "niggers and women = bad from birth" pop science propaganda and saying I disagree with basic science. It's so far from what started this all, it's not even funny.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:07:51 2014 No.25028 File: 94 KB, 506x510, 1375713626820.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25011 >Wait wait wait... Is there anyone that thinks otherwise? Yes, the one marxist in this thread. They're actually that stupid.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:08:21 2014 No.25030 not business or finance related at all >>>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:08:21 2014 No.25038 File: 88 KB, 1333x880, kek.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25012 >Yeah you are. >actually being this desperate Kay.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:08:51 2014 No.25035

>>24980
>cherry pick
HAH I was waiting for that term to come up. SRS so adorable.

Hormones give an explanation for behaviors we can observe. The general differences in behavior between sexes are best explained by the hormonal differences between them.

What do you have a problem with exactly?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:09:51 2014 No.25040 >>25025 He's crazy, I'd stop responding to him; I know it's tempting but you're just gonna get frustrated

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:10:21 2014 No.25043 File: 25 KB, 400x398, liberals2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25035 >What do you have a problem with exactly? The problem I have is that it's sexist and hurts my feelings so that means it's wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:10:21 2014 No.25045 File: 26 KB, 299x288, clint-kellys-heroes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >/biz/ - Business & Finance >Socialist Economics General

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:10:21 2014 No.25051 >>25018 >All axioms are empirical. Obviously not in Austria.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:11:21 2014 No.25053 >>25025 >>25040 Now that's some hardcore samefagging.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:11:51 2014 No.25055

>>25018
This is very taxing. I was willing to actually discuss your Pinker fellow, but you didn't want to.

>>25038
You didn't include any posts that would disprove that you're quoting yourself. You intentionally cut out the the post that incriminated you.

Include >>25025 in the next screenshot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:12:21 2014 No.25056 File: 469 KB, 820x817, 1353378325865.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] THIS THREAD BELONGS IN POL FUCK OFF LEFTISTS MOOT CREATED THIS BOARD FOR A REASON

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:13:21 2014 No.25060 File: 5 KB, 284x174, Capture .png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25053 Is it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:15:21 2014 No.25071 File: 2 KB, 255x51, I admit it.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25060 I just can't live with the lies anymore, I'm sorry I'm a communist that hates money everyone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:16:21 2014 No.25072 >>25055 >I was willing to actually discuss your Pinker fellow, but you didn't want to. No, you didn't. >>25055 >You didn't include any posts that would disprove that you're quoting yourself Yes I fucking did, look at it again, you ungodly retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:16:51 2014 No.25075 >>25056 >belongs in /pol/ >leftists moot created /pol/ for a reason too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:17:51 2014 No.25085 >>25056 Then why isn't it banned moron? Shitpost more fogget.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:18:51 2014 No.25089 >>25085 >creates 10 socialism threads while everyone tells him to fuck off >claims others are shitposting I want you to die.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:19:51 2014 No.25091 >>25072 No, you intentionally left out the one post that incriminates you. The one post that quoted your samefag post. Not to mention the glaring similarity in all your posts. You could pick them all out of the thread blindly.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:21:21 2014 No.25096
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>>25075
Communist, nazis, leftists, rightists, they all belong on /pol/ if they wanna hawk their ideologies.

This is the Capitalism board, hence Communism isn't allowed. It's like going to /a/ and crying about anime, or going to /k/ and crying about guns, it's just not allowed.

>oh boy, a capitalist board, here's an opportunity to disseminate my poisonous ideology against it

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:22:40 2014 No.25105 >>25089 >implying i am ten different people U libertards like guns rite? Whats stopping you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:23:40 2014 No.25108 File: 118 KB, 1269x819, still not me.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25091 >No, you intentionally left out the one post that incriminates you. The one post that quoted your samefag post. Oh, thanks. It's a bit late and I'm tired. :^)

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:25:40 2014 No.25114 >>25105 >Whats stopping you? I don't want to go to jail? I'm a pacifist that would rather watch others fight a violent revolution against statism and socialism than do it myself? lel

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:27:41 2014 No.25122 >>25096 >they all belong on /pol/ And this sort of shitposting belongs on /s4s/

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:28:41 2014 No.25126 >>25108 :^) Good thing you posted that I totally believe you now :^)

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:30:41 2014 No.25138 File: 105 KB, 500x333, 1370837339167.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25122 >communism isn't anti-capitalism, it's just s-shitposting

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:32:41 2014 No.25144
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>>25126
I'm seriously not lying but believe what you want.

You're THIS asspained after everyone in this thread posted countless scientific articles proving you wrong.

I know what you're doing SRS, it's not working, the only way tactic you wastes of flesh have left is lying and deceiving people.

Kill yourself, you know you want to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:33:41 2014 No.25149 >>25138 I meant that telling people to use /pol/ for reasons other than stormfront circlejerking is shitposting. And shitposting belongs on /s4s/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:34:43 2014 No.25157 >>25149 >I meant that telling people to use /pol/ for reasons other than stormfront circlejerking is shitposting Moot told you to go to /pol/ Now go.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:36:43 2014 No.25165 >>25157 >Moot

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:36:43 2014 No.25167 >>25165 See the sticky.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:39:43 2014 No.25182
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>>25144
I do want to kill myself but that's not related so no bully please

Anyway, I'm sure this has lost the appeal for you now that the thread has died down and you're probably running low on reaction images so I'm gonna go play EvE. You're welcome to join me.

As a parting gift I present my favorite feminist, anarcho communist tumblr reblog. It's dear to me so please enjoy.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:43:45 2014 No.25197
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>>25182
>I do want to kill myself
Obviously, all leftists hate themselves. Just buy a helium tank bro.

>I do want to kill myself but that's not related so no bully please
>that image
>left anarchists
>doing anything except whining on the internet like the manchildren they are
Lel

>As a parting gift I present my favorite feminist, anarcho communist tumblr reblog.
Even after every single aspect of your science hating ideology gets destroyed you still believe it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:44:45 2014 No.25203 File: 12 KB, 230x300, d5a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>25197 >he couldn't end it with dignity

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:48:45 2014 No.25222

>>25203
I don't like you.
You are infesting my culture.
You people are the worst sociopaths on the planet.
I would quite prefer it if you did not exist.
I don't want everyone in my society to poor a poor debt/wage slave thanks to you and your central banking and socialism.
You're just as bad as the megacorporations that get their power from the state.

Seriously go back to reddit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:51:47 2014 No.25241 >>25222 Don't call me a sociopath if you're gonna tell me to kill myself. Glass houses and all that. Psychopath isn't much better than a sociopath. Goodnight.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:53:47 2014 No.25251

>>25241
>Don't call me a sociopath if you're gonna tell me to kill myself.
But if you killed yourself, more people's lives would be saved.
You're an evil person and I don't want you to exist.

>Psychopath isn't much better than a sociopath.
and you're both of those, you want to use violence against peaceful people

You have absolutely zero empathy and worship genocidal maniacs.

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