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BTC (2009) = decentralized store of value
ETH (2015) = decentralized smart contracts
LINK (2017) = decentralized oracle
THE GRAPH (2020) = decentralized indexing

>> No.24639923

Top 4 projects for sure
The Graph might even get bigger than Chainlink if they adopt more big L1’s. Don’t think people are realizing yet how important The Graph is, so we will probably still have a fairly cheap (~$0.30 - $0.40) buying opportunity when they list their token later this month.

>> No.24639949

When and where to buy?

>> No.24639962

>>24639949
This. And how much to make it?

>> No.24639973

haven't been able to find where to buy it. anyone?

>> No.24639985

>>24639923
For sure. Projects using The Graph right now: Uniswap, Coinmarketcap, AAVE, Synthetix, Balancer, Decentraland, Coingecko, Aragon, Compound, USDC, MakerDAO, Bancor, iExec, Airswap and many more. Pretty the whole DeFi space.

>> No.24639992

>>24639973
not live yet

>> No.24640013

>>24639923
Indexing is huge but not bigger than Chainlink. Chainlink's monopoly on an extended toolkit that all gets pushed through oracles (stuff like VRF, FTO, etc) is on another level to everything else in the space.
The Graph is fucking boss and one of the coolest projects since LINK, but it's important to maintain perspective.

>> No.24640020

>>24639789
Why are you shilling this every day when nobody can buy it

>> No.24640026

>>24640020
It might shock you to hear, but there was a time when /biz/ talked about good projects when it wasn't just short term flipper retards trying to dump on everyone else's heads.

>> No.24640049

>>24640026
Doesn't matter if we can't invest in it dumbass.

>> No.24640053

>>24640049
>you can't talk about a project that's launching in a couple of weeks, because you can't buy it yet

>> No.24640080

>>24640013
I think both are (the only ones) in the same league. Being an essential protocol and blockchain agnostic that is adopted by the whole crypto space, is almost unheard of. These 2 will become the most important piece of infrastructure in this space.

>> No.24640091

>>24640080
If Chainlink was "just" oracles they would be equal tier, but all of Chainlink's other tools and acquisitions make it unparalleled.
Graph #2 though.

>> No.24640099

>>24640020
I’m not shilling this everyday. This is my first post since I’ve learner about The Graph. Why do it always has to be about pumping/dumping shitcoins? What’s wrong with discussing legit projects that will change the whole space? It doesn’t matter that we can’t buy it yet..

>> No.24640106

>>24640099
Newfags have been too traumatised by nubiz to understand the concept of a discussion that isn't based on someone trying to dumb bags and bail.

>> No.24640109

>>24640091
>>24640080
lmao 'my project is bigger then yours' is some reddit tier shit

>> No.24640115

>>24640109
we're both in favour of both you non-contributing faggot

>> No.24640117

>>24640091
Could you elaborate on the “other stuff” Chainlink does? I’m genuinely interested to hear..

>> No.24640134

>>24640109
>>24640115
It seems like someone doesnt understand what impact both protocols have/will have on the whole space.

>> No.24640145
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>>24640115
>t.

>> No.24640150

>>24640091
Chainlink is likely inferior to The Graph in term of revenue generation (Based on previous threads on the subject). The project who'll be more profitable will be worth more not the project which's more fundamental.

>> No.24640151

>>24640109
It took link 3 years to get where it is, and went fairly unnoticed in the 2017 bullrun.
And the graph is objectively inferior to chainlink, and this doesn't mean it's a bad project, it just means link is better than any project in crypto except maaaaybe ethereum, so thinking that graph will pull a link in a few weeks is ok in a logical market, but one must stay rational to not get rekt.

>> No.24640157

>>24640117
VRF, Fair Transaction Ordering, Arbitrum validation, proprietary TEEs, etc.

>> No.24640186

>>24640151
I don't fucking care about muh tech, I just want to buy it low and sell high capiche?

>> No.24640206

>>24640151
You sound incredibly dumb. I invested in Link public sale and that in no way can be compared to Graph case rightnow. Chainlink was a whitepaper project with fairly ambitious claims (Meaning high risk), Graph is a mature product that can already match Link in use cases, They just tokenized it recently because it's a requirement for decentralized network.

>> No.24640218

>>24639985
Proof of iExec using this shit?

>> No.24640234

>>24640218
yes

>> No.24640237

>>24640206
I think this is a fair point. I’ve also invested in the LINK tokensale. I remember we were capped and it was a fcfs war. LINK at that time was indeed only a whitepaper. I got all the hype because of the “SWIFT” logo on their website. The Graph right now is in a whole different stage than LINK was at their tokensale. Already adopted and doing 10B+ queries per month..

>> No.24640240

>>24640186
ngmi

>> No.24640244

>>24640206
Chainlink case was no different than API3 meme rightnow, Beside the fact conducting ICO based only a whitepaper was much more acceptable back in 2017+The fact Chainlink was the first of its kind so it didn't come off as forced muh killer.

>> No.24640253

>>24640218
>>24640234
https://thegraph.com/explorer/subgraph/iexecblockchaincomputing/iexec-poco-v3

>> No.24640276

>>24640244
If you read the documentation and more importantly look into who they were working with from the very beginning, it is clear that Chainlink is and always was on a completely different level of sophistication than API3

>> No.24640291

>>24640240
I don't want to spend my life on arguing about this dumb shit. It's obvious that graph is big and will perform very well. Who cares if this bigger then eth or bigger then neo or equal to link lmao.

>> No.24640293

>>24640218
If you scroll through iExec’s telegram, you’ll see that the team mentions The Graph many times and what role they play in their development

>> No.24640295

Indexing of what?

>> No.24640304

>>24640291
then why weigh in on something you're not interested in lmao

>> No.24640321

>>24640304
because you fags can't answer the very plain question
HOW MUCH TO MAKE IT?

>> No.24640327

>>24640321
250k

>> No.24640341

>>24640253
Cool maybe I'll pick some up after RLC moons

>> No.24640348

>>24640327
at what price you think it will open?

>> No.24640374

>>24640348
Presale was 0.03, fair value is top 10 coin which would put it around ~$1.5, so I wouldnt be surprised if price opens at 0.10-0.30 or so

>> No.24640381

>>24640348
$0.30 minimum.
Avalanche (AVAX) was flooded with VC money and still managed to do a 10x+. The Graph is on a whole other level, so $0.30 should be easy.

>> No.24640388

>>24639949
jeet

>> No.24640432

>>24640374
>>24640381
Fuck so we'll have to buy 10x presale bags then. Probably worth it. $1 short term is possible?

>> No.24640496

>>24640432
Longterm it shouldnt matter. It’s like buying LINK at $1 and ETH at $3 (all are 10x prices).

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>>24639789
So when's this hitting an exchange?

>> No.24640956

>>24640918
Probably end of the month.

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>>24640956
Mainnet launch and listing around Christmas/New Year when most people are with their families and either aren't checking up on crypto news or aren't trading, just why..

>> No.24641054

>>24640956
I'm guessing later. Indexer is still at end of phase 2 and curator is phase 3.

>> No.24641313

>>24640348
I think $0.6 - $0.8 would be a fair valuation in the short term. I expect it to open lower, around $0.30-$0.40.

>> No.24641562

>>24641313
$1 at least, 1 year from now. You read it here first.

>> No.24641991

>>24641046
That is fine, most of us have no friends and our families do not care.

>> No.24642277

can't wait to dump my presale bags at 20x on day 1 :) :) :)

>> No.24642285

>>24641562
$1 with the circulating supply of month 6 will be a $5B marketcap. 1 year seems realistic, maybe even sooner. If crypto goes on a late 2017like run tho, it will go much much higher.

>> No.24642383

>>24642277
>settling for a measly 20x
ngmi

>> No.24642386

when is the next opportunity to buy?

>> No.24642607

>>24639789
Another shitcoin

>> No.24642689

>>24642277
First of all pre-sale tokens are locked. Second of all congrats, that's like dumping ETH at $6.

>>24642607
Goodluck with your Uniswap rugpull bags.

>> No.24642704

>>24642607
Pajeet

>> No.24642748

What’s up with the tokenomics, only 4% circulating from full supply - can someone graphpill me on the rest of the supply. Not fudding, just curious.

>> No.24642785
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*New Uniswap GEM ALERT *
Chalice Finance ( CHAL ) has been listed on uniswap!

Leverage your assets with Chalice Cross-chain platform
Decent track record of performance with this dev team, think it’s worth a stab.

In $CHAL, there is an opportunity to offering collateralized loans and stable coins for many crypto assets (ERC-20) and offering decentralized leverage and stability to users of many crypto assets

Website : https://chalice.finance

Link to trade : https://app.uniswap.org/#/swap?outputCurrency=0x1cc0744c5106bb47a61c4e41f517cb6f1c49b547

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>>24642748

>> No.24642852

>>24642748
Around 10% will be circulating the first day. This will increase to 50% throughout the year. So if you want to be conservative, calculate the market cap of 50% in circulation and use that valuation to determine your buy-in point.

Example: if you think $2.5B valuation is fair (top 20). Then buying at up until $0.50 still makes sense.

>> No.24642994

>>24642852
Thanks anon, this is important. Will do some math.

>> No.24643014

The occupation of private detectives is becoming more popular nowadays. That’s why after the successful pre-sale the GTX price can grow x10!

>> No.24643066

>>24642849
Kek. Imagine buying a high inflationary shitcoin that will inflate the market cap but not the price.

>> No.24643075

500k GRT to make it faggots

>> No.24643079

>>24639789
how do i buy

>> No.24643085

>>24640295
functions, calls, any emission whatsoever from a smart contract that it's designed to track. A simple analogy would be a google bot crawling over and indexing everything that's happening on a website and having it available through a search engine

>> No.24643252

Any good resources to read up on this? Looks interesting.

>> No.24643258

Where tha fuck do i buy this shit

>> No.24643282

>>24643258
Read the thread you retard you can't yet

>> No.24643301

>>24643075
that implies its potential to moon is minimal and almost nonexistent

>> No.24643345

>>24643282
But i read people already had a couple

>> No.24643371

>>24643345
Pre sale, otherwise you have to wait

>> No.24643412
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>>24642994
Did it for you

As you can see, everything under $0.60 is a no brainer to all-in marketbuy
In this market, $1 is not too far away

>> No.24643415

>>24641562
Bearish prediction. Not memeing.

>> No.24643429

>>24643301
Depends on the amount of $$ you need to make it

>> No.24643452

>>24643301
This. If it opens at 30c it's $150k to make it. With that amount you make it with literally every non-scam coin in bull marjet
>>24643075
How high will it go?

>> No.24643514

>>24643412
5$ looks very possible if alts will go on a run. 25$+ if we couple alt run with BTC run.

25B is top 6 in 2017 peak, next peak should be at least x5 higher, Meabing a place in the top 15-20 will be enough (And graph outside of the top 10 is near impossibility).

>> No.24643612

>>24643514
The graph will definetly be a top 10 project. imo even top 4 (after btc, eth, link)
I do agree that $5 is realistic in a bull market. Not sure if we will x5 2017’s peak tho

>> No.24643616

>>24643301
Graph basically has the same if not higher potential than Link, GRT at Link price rightnow will give us 2$, Buying Graph at anywhere below 2$ should be a better deal than buying Link rightnow

>> No.24643741

>>24639789
BRUH STOP BEING A FAG AND LET ME BUY

>> No.24643797

>>24643616
Right now LINK is a more valuable project for sure. The Graph has a lot of potential indeed. If they can get more L1’s, I think they will be on par with ChainLink.

>> No.24644062

>>24643612
Bitcoin Cash was top 4 in 2017, sitting at 80B marketcap (That was at only 20K btc!), That'll give us 16$ per GRT at end of 2021-22 (Again assuming btc at only 20K, Could be x10 higher if BTC follow previous cycles).

>> No.24644099

>>24639789
Fuck off. This shit is not comprable to LINK, stop shilling your ICO bags pajeet.

>> No.24644112

>>24643797
Its not a question of if

>> No.24644139

>>24644062
Can you hold that long tho

>> No.24644140

>>24640099
Only ICO buyers are shilling this atm, since no one else can fill their bags.

ICO price was 3 cents and now these ico-jeets are arguing for a 20x+ listing price.

>> No.24644204

>>24639789
what is the listing price? anyone know? gonan go hard on this one

>> No.24644279

>>24644099
To be fair. This is the ONLY project that is comparable with LINK.
-Both are widely adopted by the whole crypto space.
-Both are blockchain agnostic.
-Both are an important piece of infrastructure (oracles and indexing protocol)
-Both are ERC20
-Both are highly technical
-Both are layer 2 protocols
-Both are respected by hundreds of developers (hundreds of tweets from developers using the product)

>> No.24644305

>>24644140
I don’t consider it shilling, since everyone only could get $1-5k in public sale. Most on the lower end of that range. /biz/ poorfags won’t make a difference lol.

>> No.24644327

>>24644204
It will open at $0.30+ minimum. I'm not gonna lie, VC's got a big chunk like with AVAX. So there may be some FUD. However an inferior project like AVAX still managed to do a 10x.

>> No.24644337

>>24644140
Give me a single argument why Graph shouldn't be already a top 5 coin, x20 claim is unironically a calming middle ground, In ideal market which each project get its fair value GRT would open at around x100 ICO price.

Your only argument is likely relying on the absurdity of such scenario (In term of ROI), But this isn't the thing you want to rely on in crypto (Which tend to prove time and time again that absurd is the usual, Just look at 300B valuation filecoin, 50B CRV etc.).

Now i'm not saying it'll do this and that, Just that the reason behind GRT doing this well is sound.

>> No.24644379

>>24644305
5k investment x50 which is the implied future price by your kin is 250k, pajeet.

>> No.24644526

>>24644379
>most on the lower end of that range ($1k)
>/biz/ won’t make a difference
You think these poor losers will pump the price at listing? Whales already know what to do. Dickhead

>> No.24644536

>>24639789
Whales (seed round) are in at half a cent and you think you’ll get a moon? Dream on pajeets

>> No.24644578

>>24644536
Seed tokens are locked. So you’re saying buying ETH at $3 is a bad deal because ICO investors already got 10x? Thats literally the only FUD you can think of? You must hate money.

>> No.24644588

>>24644536
Nice FUD attempt carl now go tell your mom I’ll pick her up at 8

>> No.24644866

>>24644379
Chainlink did 200x in a bear/sideways market yet this is the most similar project I've seen in the past 3 years (and before you start talking shit I was here in Summer 2017 posting presale pool links).
The difference is, LINK took like 2 years to get to mainnet and start announcing integrations (so the price suffered while the team was working and being quiet) while Graph has already passed that stage (ICO legality was different back in 2017).
Tokens get unlocked with mainnet launch by the end of month and big projects are/have already prepared to join the network.

The "downside" for investors was that with Chainlink being a project that was YET to be developed, majority of the contributors had virtually no personal caps (but waiting for the moonshot for 2 years was tough), while Graph is at an advanced stage funded by early backers (that are locked for 6 months) so the regular ICO investors only got small caps.

>> No.24645095

>>24644866
This. What do you think is a reasonable opening price/valuation?

>> No.24645181

>>24645095
if you can buy this at 0.3 you go all in but i doubt that you can get it so low.

>> No.24645389

>>24645181
>If you can buy something at a 10-20x value while nothing fundamental has changes you go all in

What is the IQ in this thread? You think the ICO would be done with a 10-20x for shits and giggöes if the team is so solid (which they undeniably are).

I’m not saying this is a bad project, I’m just saying you’re talking out of your ass with your valuations

>well consider a conservative top 3 2017 bull market cap scenario...

>> No.24645524

>>24645389
Answer my comment:>>24644337

>> No.24645536

>>24645389
Well actually there are changes:
-Many people wanted to contribute during the public sale but everyone had a small cap.
-Lots of layer-1 integrations will be announced when they go live.
-Query numbers are still increasing on a monthly basis. Last update it was at 10b per month.
-As long as the DeFi space is growing, this wil have an impact on The Graph too because half the DeFi space is using The Graph.

>> No.24645597

Damn is /biz/ collectively agreeing on a project being good right now?

>> No.24645634

>>24645597
Best project in years. Only question for now is, how good is it exactly (up untill what price is this an easy all in marketbuy at listing)

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>>24645536
Graph isn't concerned only with DeFi stop with this meme. Its scoop is larger rightnow and in the future as big as any tech in Web 2.0

>> No.24645712

>>24645597
Yes. Only FUD is that VC got cheaper than public. But that’s almost always the case (seed/angel rounds etc.).

>> No.24646039

>>24644337
Well I’ll give you a hint;

Potential future value of given market

>> No.24646290

>>24639789
I appreciate your daily shilling and I'll buy it. But please shill it when I can actually buy. Until now it's just a tease. Thanks bby.

>> No.24647369

Any idea which L1’s will follow?

>> No.24647781
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24647781

>>24647369
Here’a a teaser