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What are the exceptions to the rule in terms of unnecessary purchases that are worth making once you make it?

>> No.25030725
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25030725

Gaudy firearms

>> No.25030734

>>25030678
None of them. Luxury goods are the biggest con of all time.

>> No.25030765

High quality hiking gear. Good boots/tents etc should last you 10+ years of solid use.

>> No.25030817

Property. Preferably land and lots of it.

>> No.25030844

>>25030725
Rhinos look so dope! But the grip is not ergo, and if your round assplodes, you will lose your fingers.

>> No.25030882

Organic food, high quality produce. Easy

>> No.25030889

>>25030678
Might get an older rolex and a few decent suits. I like dressing well and despise faggots who dress like niggers and walk around in cheap sweatpants

>> No.25030934

>>25030844
I thought the grip would be uncomfortable too, but after renting a Rhino and firing 50 rounds of .357, I have no complaints. It's a very easy gun to fire well

>> No.25030964

>>25030678
Things that reduce the amount of effort you have to exert to attract women while simultaneously holding value.

>> No.25031006

>>25030765
>>25030817
Both of these are smart purchases and not applicable to this thread

>> No.25031007

>>25030678
Pretty much anything that will save you time and soothe your mental state. I'm not talking about short term dopamine rushes, though.
>Quality, healthy food.
>Spacious house.
>A car that won't lose value in time rapidly, doesn't have to be luxurious.
>Comfortable shoes with high endurance.
>Comfortable clothes.
>Art

>> No.25031012

>>25030964
Good answer, what do you recommend?
Cars lose their value. Some Rolexs increase in value every year.

>> No.25031043

>>25030934
Did you have to adjust your grip a little, so that your thumbs don't get torched?

>> No.25031048

>>25030817
Not applicable and off topic. You should always buy land.

>> No.25031054

>>25030678
Amazing how these guys live in some shithole village in Africa and can walk around dressed like that without worrying about getting robbed. Everyone in their village loves them. Try dressing like that in North Philly and see what happens

>> No.25031120

>>25031012
Houses(land), jewelry (PMs), and eating healthier which leads to better looks, theoretically lower amounts of money spent on healthcare over the long term, and increased time/life expectancy (time=money), knowledge (less time spent in life fucking up), etc.

>> No.25031217

>>25031120
Yeah. When I approach women I always open by showing them all of my properties on Zillow

>> No.25031252

>>25030734
Luxury Goods are not a waste. Let's put this into analogy that even you anime/vidya weebs can understand.

Let's assume Capitalism is a game (which it is) and you are forced to play. Your power level is directly proportional to your wealth (levels). By having more wealth (levels), you are able to access more parts of the game (social circles, various quests such as being able to enter certain buildings due to you being wealthy, or meeting new people). However, there are various forms of Gear/DPS checks that are out there. For example, if you are dressed and smell like a homeless person ( bad gear) you will be locked out of most of society and harassed by higher level players and NPCs who aggro to you. If you have better gear on, people assume you are "stronger" than them (you are) and you are able to access more because your gear is high enough to allow you to enter an area. However you still need points properly allocated (charisma / intelligence) in order to navigate those various areas / quests. You can purchase luxury goods such as speech lessons (private coaches), executive coaches (skill trainers), etiquette teachers (needs to help you enter very high social circles) to help you level up those skills if you didn't roll them at a high enough % from birth.

By having these high stats, you are then able to get better loot and take on more quests which furthers your power level. You can also group up (network) with other people who are high level as well.

> in b4 someone says rich people dress normally
This is both true and false. Rich people have subtle gear that can only be noticed by other wealthy people. You both may wear the same black shirt, but the wealthy persons shirt is well tailored (or "enchanted") so it fits them better, providing them with better stats. Look up the term "prole gap" for more information on this. There are so many things out in the world you autist don't know about because you stay in your basements.

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>>25030678
I'm pro-caffeine purchases. Spending $5 on energy drinks a day is based and productivitypilled.

>> No.25031586

>>25030678
For me it would be tailored clothes

>> No.25031635

>>25031043
No, because I already shoot revolvers with overlapping tucked thumbs.

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>>25031252
>calls other autists and drops an autistic analogy

Riddle me this pannekoek: "an A-press is an A-Press,you cant say its only a half"

>> No.25031690

>>25031252
>"prole gap
where else can you go to know more about this sort of stuff?

>> No.25031747

>>25031635
Gotcha. Well, hang in there, Amerifriend. Kamala is finna fuck your shit up.

>> No.25031792

>>25031252
based but you're still a faggot

>> No.25031816

pokemon cards

>> No.25031870

>>25031690
You cannot directly (without having wealth) And this is intended. These things are commonly taught to those who attend elite boarding schools (used for grooming future elites) or are part of wealthy familes / circles. etiquette training is a common part of the elite skill set. There are a few videos that talk about this issue on youtube . Look up videos on secret education of the elite.

>> No.25031910

>>25031669
I'm wealthy but also autistic. I'm only trying to communicate a complex topic in a way that can be understood by other autist. This is a form of strategic communication - also part of the elites skill set

>> No.25031915

>>25031054
Because niggers show respect to other niggers. I know It sounds crazy but especially in African villages it's normal to look impressive and be seen as that. I won't try this at night in some of the bigger cities, but that counts for every continent.

>> No.25031988

>>25031252
This post is autistic af.

>> No.25032081

>>25030889
I live in an upper-class neighbourhood and LOVE triggering faggots like yourself by wearing my $20 sweatpants and hoodie when I go shopping.

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>>25030678
The memes write themselves.

>> No.25032503

>>25031988
I'm aware. I've admitted to be such above.

>> No.25032559

>>25032503
>secret education of the elite.
I see a bunch of conspiracy theroies. I see Paul Fussells book...I don't really see anything of interest that could allow one to jump down a rabbit hole.

>> No.25032704

>>25032559

Here is a source from a famous teacher (best starting point)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obFPLRuP41w

Here is a source from an academic institution. (more holistic viewpoint)
https://www1.udel.edu/htr/American/Texts/power.html

>> No.25032731

>>25030678
Porsche 911

>> No.25033124

>>25031252
Why would I want to join the elite? Seems like the best move is to just work hard enough to be independently wealthy and try and disconnect from society as much as is reasonably possible.

>> No.25033218

>>25031252
>He wants to be a socialite

This is why you will never make it.

>> No.25033467

>>25031252
gayest post I've ever read

Also in Runescape I always dressed in shitty cheap armour that I liked, imagine thinking you need to impress noobs to enjoy the game, most cucked attitude I've ever seen

>> No.25033476

>>25033124
You don't necessarily have to join the "elite". Becoming independently wealthy still requires relying on other people, whether you like it or not. The reason why you make money on crypto is because the value of crypto is directly tied to the value other people place on it. There is no such thing as "independent wealth" in the truest sense of the word.

>>25033218
This has nothing to do with trying to become a "socialite". I gave plenty of examples, both business, social and political. Your lack of proper education is apparent in this statement.

>> No.25033564

>>25030678
If I ever make it, I'm buying an a6 allroad and a Plymouth roadrunner

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Gunpla :)

>> No.25033626

>>25033467
Real life isn't runescape. The difference betwen real life and runescape is that Runescape has a very clear system that is easily understood by the players because everything is documented.You are free to dress in shitty cheap armour in runescape because it doesn't have any real impact on your game play.

The real world does not operate in that manner. There isn't a wikipedia / docs page you can open that explains the underlying intricacies of the system. Humans are social creatures. Some things are only taught via tribal knowledge, which requires entrance to the circles that contain that knowledge..

You clearly did not understand or catch the nuance within my post.

>> No.25033671

>>25033476
Sure, seems like a good tool to have in some regards. Wouldn't most of what constitutes luxury goods just make people come across as nouveau riche? Seems like most of the really powerful people are more low key.

>> No.25033706

>>25033626
Nah, you're just a filthy consoomer, bro.

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>>25031669
There are three states when you press the A button
When A is pressed
When A is held
When A is released

If you don't release A you only did half an A press

>> No.25033726

>>25033671
You're absolutely correct. Here is a study that talks about this
"Subtle Signals of Inconspicuous Consumption"
https://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1244&context=marketing_papers

Here is a more easily digestible article that talks about this:
"https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20170614-the-new-subtle-ways-the-rich-signal-their-wealth"

TLDR: "This new elite cements its status through prizing knowledge and building cultural capital, not to mention the spending habits that go with it – preferring to spend on services, education and human-capital investments over purely material goods. These new status behaviours are what I call ‘inconspicuous consumption’. None of the consumer choices that the term covers are inherently obvious or ostensibly material but they are, without question, exclusionary."

>>25033706
See my above blurb. It's not just about material goods.

>> No.25033753

>>25030678
>Casually kicks a dog at the end

Lmfao what the fucking shit

>> No.25033841

>>25033726
while taking into account how autistic this makes me sound, I think I do a good job of portraying myself in a high class manner even though I come from middle class family. I don't think I have the historical/political/etiquette knowledge that I'd need to become "elite" but I think I could if I wanted it.

>> No.25033945

>>25033841
It's not that simple. You can become upper class but there are small subtle things that would immediately signal to others who are of the upper echelons of the elite that show that you are , to use a 4 chan term, a new fag.

Here is a simple test:
You and I are at a business meeting. The server brings you a cup of coffee or tea (your preference) and condiments for your tea/coffee (sugar/cream/etc). How do you properly add these amendments to your drink? What is the most polite manner of doing so?

>> No.25033968

>>25033945
what's the answer?

>> No.25034002

>>25030678
dunno maybe netflix

>> No.25034045
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>>25030678
This:

Diamond Teabag - $14,000

This was made by a British (of course) company called Boodles jewellers. It was hand-crafted using 280 diamonds and I have a suspicious feeling it won't be getting put to use any time soon.

>> No.25034058

>>25033968
Summarizing somewhat, there are more unspoken rules but here is what I remember from etiquette class:

When adding things to your drink you are free to add whatever you want however you should not do the following:
1. Do not stir your drink by doing the thing where people rapidly stir there drinks by spinning a coffee spoon / stirrer around in a rapid circle.
A. It is an inefficient way to mix a drink. Sugar dissolves quicker if you go in a slower precise manner by mixing in a hatch format. The sugar crystals will quickly dissolve after doing a few motions of this.
B. You create noise by potentially clinking your spoon on the glassware. It's uncouth and unslightly.
C. You run risk of spilling your drink, which is also unsightly.

Someone with proper etiquette training can immediately figure out your class just by watching you mix your coffee /tea

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>>25033945
I don't know. What's the answer?

>> No.25034083

>>25033726
So the 'elite' show their wealth by paying for overpriced credentials and buying overpriced healthy foods. I dunno about you, but I torrent all of my educational material, and I grow my own food. Sure these people save time, and time is money, and their credentials are more widely accepted, but I myself cannot justify the expenditure. Its still just consumerism to me.

>> No.25034125

>>25034083
You are still consuming, you are just not spending any money doing so. You can easily get an elite education (to an extent) by perusing free online resources such as MITX or HarvardX. However this is all technical knowledge, there is still nuance that has to be communicated in person. That nuance is what separates them from you.

It's all about relationships at the upper levels. Not skill sets.

>> No.25034162

>>25033945
>How do you properly add these amendments to your drink?
You start by NOT referring to condiments as
AMENDMENTS TO MY DRINK

You see, it was a trick question

>> No.25034167

>>25034067
See this post:
>>25034058
>>25033968

Here is a quick video that describes it at a high level: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbR69-f6QPc

>> No.25034210

>>25034162
Apologies, the word i was looking for is accompaniment, I'm phone posting and english isn't my first language.

>> No.25034259

>>25034125
You are correct about relationships vs skill, and it disgusts me.

>> No.25034267

>>25034167
Interesting. I wonder if it's something worth trying to accumulate over time.

>> No.25034444

>>25030678
They do look good though.

>> No.25034474

>>25034267
Yes. But one thing to keep in mind (circling back to the nuance issue that I keep mentioning), is knowing WHEN is the proper time to signal. The problem with "nouveau" rich is that signal at improper times. The problem with "academics" is that they signal by using highly intellectual words at the improper times.

If you are meeting with a random every day person, your knowledge of how to properly stir tea is not going to help you in that circle. if anything it will work against you because that circle with treat you as a pariah because you are acting "different".

Knowing when to use signals is a skill that is also taught to the elite. A modern every day example of this is how politicians speak to their constituents. Politicians speak at a lower grade level because the common people can all relate to the language. When they are speaking to their inner circles, they use more complex words and speech with complex underlying meanings.

No one likes to feel stupid. This is the most important thing that autists need to remember. Showing of your "intellect" is the lowest IQ thing you can do.

NEVER make people feel stupid... ever.

>> No.25034509

>>25033945
I add nothing because I like my coffee pure.

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>>25034045
>diamonds

>> No.25034584

>>25034474
Yeah I definitely agree, I see the academic mistake all the time from my peers when I was studying math in college. Actually being a likeable sociable thoughtful person put me so far ahead of them in some regards even though they're all way smarter than me. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

>> No.25034647

>>25031252
You could have saved a lot of time and just posted the words "i am poor"

>> No.25034659

>>25031669
>>25031669
hey tjom wat maak jy hier?

>> No.25034761

>>25034474
>random every day person
Can you be any more condescending?

>> No.25034768

>>25034058
I appreciate the time you take to write all this out. I have a latent hatred for elites, but that seems to me like a cope and jealousy combined. If I could, I would. I've worked in wealth-catered industry and getting a glimpse from the outside was a real eye opener. It's definitely jealousy.

>> No.25034792

>>25034659
Lekke lekke manne? Vanwaar in SA is jul?

>> No.25034851

>>25034167

Or you could just drink it black like a civilized human being because sugar and creamer is superfluous.

>> No.25034916

>>25034761
Would you have preferred I use the term "Commoner" or "Average Joe"? This isn't anymore condescending than anons calling everyday people "NPCs"

>> No.25034958

>>25034474
elite life sounds extremely annoying and stressful the way you describe it, nty to all that
I've half made it and plan to change nothing about my behavior. I like people who are genuine and expect my friends/allies to be the same.

>> No.25034969

>>25034916
Why not simply refer to a person as a person?

>> No.25035021

>>25033626
I actually did and used your own metaphor to show how stupid it was. In fact there is a layer in real life too where there are people who see the airs and choose friends based on what's genuine, by choice not ignorance.

But good job on trying to do exactly what you said here >>25034474
"NEVER" to do

>> No.25035071

>>25034851
Yes that is also the option. There is also an option to understand the message I was trying to convey without returning a pedantic response.
>>25034958
It's annoying if you are not exposed to it on a daily basis. After a while it becomes muscle memory and ritualistic. It's just something that you "do".

>>25034969
> "random every day person,"
> random every day person (descriptor of person) "person" (noun)
(You): "Why not simply refer to a person as a person?"

I took the bait, enjoy your (You)

>>25035021
You initially responded to me in a hostile manner while I was trying to help another individual,thus you received a hostile response back. What did you think was going to happen?

>> No.25035092

>>25031252
What about Joe Rogan tho? He's elite as fuck.
What happens when the elites have to take a shit in a public restroom? They're going to let a loud fart rip in the toilet bowl like anyone else.

>> No.25035134

>>25035071
Big difference between:
Random (insulting) every day (insulting) person (not insulting)
And:
person (not insulting)

>> No.25035145

>>25035071
>You initially responded to me in a hostile manner while I was trying to help another individual,thus you received a hostile response back. What did you think was going to happen?
expect a hostile response in return, obviously. I'm fine with that.

>> No.25035151

>>25035092
Good question. Joe Rogan is not who I would consider "Elite". I think the question to ask here is "Who signs Joe Rogans pay checks?" Joe rogan is a former athelete, thus part of the "Serving Class' (Provides entertainment). He has money but he is not "Elite" by any true measure of the word. He does not have royal blood nor is part of a family or group that owns portions of the world.

>> No.25035155

>>25035092
Wouldn't that loud fart shatter the illusion of sophisticated tea stirring?

>> No.25035170

>>25034659
>>25034792
>>25031669
Plot twist:
Almal op hierdie thread is eintlik afrikaans

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>>25035134
>Random (insulting)
you can't be serious

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>>25032176

>> No.25035206

>>25031252
You're literally more disgusting than a random street hobo.

>> No.25035218

>>25035134
I don't consider random to be an insult. Random is simply an unplanned event or thing. If I bump into a person on the street and strike up a conversation with them, they are considered to be a random person who I'm partaking in a random event with.

I do, however, see your point. Hopefully my explanation above clears that up.

>> No.25035234

>>25035071

>imagine missing the overarching meaning of my response

Sugar and creamer use is a symptom of a low quality individual who has poor impulse control and makes unhealthy decisions. Solid health decisions are a hallmark of the upper class and thus, if you take the creamer/sugar when offered and available you're likely low class, savvy?

>> No.25035253

>>25035151
Joe Rogan is probably in the top 10k richest people in the world.
In your opinion "elite" is more related to power I guess
What about Hunter Biden? He seemed to behave like a typical 4chan multimillionaire degen

>> No.25035263

>>25033945
>to use a 4 chan term, a new fag.
Had to get out of my chair to laugh, thanks for all the posts.

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>>25031217
u havin a giggle m8?

>> No.25035314

>>25035234
This is an interesting take, albeit confusing. Where did you even learn this? I'm honestly curious.
The price of sugar in the past / olden days made sugar unattainable by those who were not elite and wealthy. Why do you think that choosing not to "sweeten your drink" makes you "upper class"?

>> No.25035318

>>25035218
You mentioned politicians as an example of elites who put on airs. Joe Rogan is richer than any US senator except maybe Kelly Loeffler

>> No.25035347

>>25035218
I look at Joe rogan as wealthy but not elite. Elite to what you are referring to is someone who influences policies, have meetings with heads of state and has luncheons with multiple c executives because he has a vested interest. That to me, is about 200million net worth at minimum just because you now have "people" that answer for your shit idk I could be wrong. Anyways...

What I did see that guys video was interesting. Some stuff comes off as /pol tier thinking but interesting none the less...I recently threw out my black suit for a gray subtle pinstrip suit because someone told me Id looked like a richmans butler

>> No.25035360

>>25031252
Lol you already lost bro

>> No.25035376

>>25035218
Right, I get it now. So, I would be using that term correctly if I said: 'You are a very random person.'
Yes?

>> No.25035380

>>25035318
Joe rogan isn't trump rich or Kanye rich.
He even admitted in one of his talks that Dan bilzeran outdoes him on the social media front. Perception truly is reality

>> No.25035417

>>25034058
This seems like something that could be easily learned from a book on modern English etiquette and manners n shit

>> No.25035426

>>25035318
A google search shows that is incorrect. "he's amassed an impressive $100 million net worth. Established US Senators definitely have a higher net worth then this. Also wealth is not just money, it's power and connections. Joe Rogan can open alot of doors but US Senators can open way more.

>>25035360
It's only considered a loss if you quit. I'm still playing... we all are.

>>25035376
Depends on the context, I suppose? I don't consider that statement to be insulting, if that's what you're implying. At this point we are arguing about semantics.

>>25035380
This.

>> No.25035456

>>25035071
>>25035151
LMAO at everyone taking shit to the manners poster. Literally everything he has said in this thread is true. One of my best friends is a member of a European old money family (for example, there is a street named with his family name in a European capital city), and he has tried to teach me some of this. He also can immediately pick up on if someone else is from the same background as him or not. What is annoying is that it is a bit tedious to try to gain these skills as an adult, as they were forced on him his whole life as a kid at home and at his private school. If you only know some of the tricks, then fuck up on a different one, it may make you look like an even worse poseur. If you literally are trying to only trade or become crypto rich, yeah you can ignore, but for anyone who actually is attempting to work up in finance, entertainment, business, ESPECIALLY internationally, these skills and knowledge are absolutely crucial.

Manners poster, I have watched quite a bit of the info I can get from YouTube, do you know any more sources or books that could potentially provide me with more? A lot of the stuff online is dedicated to manners particular to women, which is not super helpful.

>> No.25035479

>>25031252
your analogy fucking sucks. You made a whole paragraph detailing the importance of having good "gear" then said it's true that rich people dress normally, with the gay caveat that it's "enchanted". So luxury goods are waste cause i can get a t-shirt from h&m for $8 and get it "enchanted" for $10 at a tailor and I'd be better off than some guy wearing a $300 Gucci t-shirt.

>> No.25035495

>>25035151
Rogan is the equivalent of a Jester.
Well esteemed and likely protected by the king etc but he isn't sat at the meeting table.

>> No.25035516

>>25035426
>I don't consider that statement to be insulting
Well, thats case closed then.
>semantics
Semantics - the branch of linguistics and logic concerned with meaning
Yes, we've been discussing semantics, I agree.

>> No.25035537

>>25035456
Yes seriously you know had how fucking embrassing it is talking to old money or people who grew up like this and your trying to do business with them and you look worst than a serf because they know you are a larping new fag. Fucking hell now i just out right say I come from humbled beginnings

>> No.25035555

>>25035253
The difference is new money vs old money. Joe Rogan came up as a fighter and entertainer, that does not mean he would be accepted into the social circles being mentioned here. In the US, being descended from something like the DuPont, Kennedy, Roosevelt families would really be the "elite," and in Europe these lineages go back much, much further. Most money =/= highest social status in the US or outside of the US, but being high status and having these skills often allows one to become rich, even when big money isn't inherited or has become more diffuse as the family has become larger.

>> No.25035572

>>25035380
I think he downplays his wealth and he's richer than people think.
It's entirely possible he made ridiculous gains from:
-UFC equity that he helped pump
-secret BTC holding that he bought OTC and helped pump. He had Andreas on 4 times since 2013. He seemed euphoric when it mooned in Q4 2017. He was dismissive/defensive when someone mentioned Ethereum -> secret Bitcoin maxi.
-TSLA stock that he helped pump
-Spotify stock that he helped pump

>> No.25035574

What about those fat sweaty Jew elites? Are they considered the omegas of the pack?

>> No.25035579

>>25030678
Unironically the only thing that can't be faked well are suits, everything else is a joke and you can look the part for less than $2000

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25035594

I pride myself on working with a bunch of elites in fortune 50 as an unironic young genius and shitting on their culture openly. They don’t like it but they can’t do anything to me because I’m completely independent and don’t need them.
Fuck your faggots status symbols. You will never be accepted by these subhuman filth rich kids and their only power is daddy’s money and gossip.

>> No.25035608

>>25035456
Thank you. I'm glad someone understands I'm not trying to just bullshit people here.

>>25035479
You used your first post on attempting to refute my point by talking about tailoring an H&M shirt, and didn't bother to understand the underlying meaning of what I was saying....

Let's try this again. I'll try to make this simpler for you.

You get an H&M shirt tailored. To the naked eye it looks like any old black shirt.

I go to lord and taylor and buy a $500 black shirt, I do not need to get it tailored to make it look fancy.
The feel of your shirt is rough and your shirt degrades quickly because it's of lower quality. Your shirt has exposed seams and poor stitching because it crafted poorly.

My shirt does not.

These are small details that can be noticed by people who are trained to see them.

Modern day example: google "what a tie hand is". It's a way to describe the quality of a tie.
Make sense?

>> No.25035630

>>25035574
We are the puppetmasters of the elite.

>> No.25035654

>>25035456
Sorry I missed your question. And No I do not. You could try searching z-book or pdfdrive for ebooks on this topic.

>> No.25035666

>>25035630
It's true to a degree. They have to live their lives according to how us plebs perceive them.

>> No.25035673

>>25035608
>I'll try to make this simpler for you
Do you consider this manner of talking to someone else as insulting?

>> No.25035690

>>25035673
Yes, I was intentionally being insulting.

>> No.25035756

>>25035572
I mean I'm not knocking on his achievements its impressive for sure

>> No.25035758

>>25035690
Ah, I see.
So, if I'm understanding you correctly, you insult other persons in a multiplicity of ways. Sometimes through intent and other times only by negligence. Is that near the mark?

>> No.25035763

>>25031252
holy based surely you're not making fun of me too

>> No.25035780

>>25035690
Ripping a loud fart in the toilet bowl within earshot of others seems like it would shatter the illusion of the eliteness/politeness though. How do the elites deal with that? It seems impossible to use isolated, soundproof toilets 100% of the time.

>> No.25035795

>>25035574
>>25035630
I meant us jews

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>>25035608
>uh uh my black shirt is better cuz autist who inspect my shirt will know it's expensive.
This is your average consooomer

>> No.25035862

>>25035758
Yes, and I touched on this earlier. Tone and how you use words varies depending on your environment. If you think about it, me being insulting is part of me fitting in to the circle that is 4chan... see this dumbass (>>25035805
)

>>25035780
Bodily functions are not discussed at all. What is done in private is done in private.

>>25035805
You clearly have not taken the time to read the entire thread. If you did, you wouldn't have taken the time to respond in this stupid of a manner. Enjoy your last (You). (You) earned it.

>> No.25035875

>>25031054
>>25031915
They probably cut the hand of thieves if to worse, so petty crime is usually low

>> No.25035896

>>25035795
From what I've seen, the elite jews don't seem to view the average jew as any different to the average non-jew pleb

>> No.25035929

>>25034768
You're welcome. I hate them as well, but the best way to defeat your enemy, is to understand how they operate.

>> No.25035951

>>25035862
>If you think about it, me being insulting is part of me fitting in to the circle that is 4chan
When 4channers insult others on 4chan, it is usually done in a manner that makes it clear that it is a joke.
Your way of insulting, however, has a certain subtlety to it, a kind of deviousness that cuts to the bone, wouldn't you say?

>> No.25035994

>>25030734
Isn't the point of having money to have fun, buy things you want, live comfortably and to flex on others. Most rich people who know a thing or two about money know that luxury goods aren't worth what they cost but they buy it just because they can.

>> No.25036002

>>25035896
Jews are a tight knight cultural group. We are like a family. Even if we joke around, in the end we support each other and help each other. Jews are fiercely patriotic.

>> No.25036007

>>25035862
im sorry i didnt read all your autistic replies. If you need all your additional posts to defend your original point, then it probably wasn't a good one.

>> No.25036041

>>25035951
I'd argue that it's not subtle at all. It's due to my directness. I have been called out on this by other individuals who are higher status to me. I hate keeping up facades, which is part of the game. This form of speech, unfortunately, has caused me to be locked out of certain circles, once I inevitably remove the facade.

Life is a stage, and we are all actors...personas if you will. When you remove the mask, the truth is revealed.

However this is the best thing about life. You are able to keep up the mask, you can achieve great things.

>> No.25036071

>>25035929
Now onto the more important topic. Where to find elite single roasties? Now that I can spin my tea cup spoon, I want to eloquently place my penis in her mouth

>> No.25036095

>>25036007
ok fine ill take the bait...me having to condense my point to a simpler manner isn't defending my position. It's me rephrasing something in a manner that can be understood by someone who cannot understand complex topics due to lack of mental faculties. i.e (YOU)

>> No.25036107

>>25030678
Kek niggers are hilarious

>> No.25036131

>>25036071
Sororities or student clubs at top schools . If you are an American

TkFBTNdn is now off topic and filtered. No You will be given. I suggest purchasing Vitamin D if you need the dopamine hit.

>> No.25036138

>>25036041
>has caused me to be locked out of certain circles, once I inevitably remove the facade
>You are able to keep up the mask, you can achieve great things
We all wear masks to a degree, this is true.
May I ask, are you a man or woman?

>> No.25036154

>>25036138
A man. Women do not communicate topics like this in this manner.

>> No.25036185

Why spend your money on gaudy stuff to impress nobodies when you can become a wealthy hermit and live out your remaining years scheming how to make everyone else more miserable

>> No.25036201

>>25036185
Based and Modern Day Diogenes-Pilled.

>> No.25036217

>>25036002
Why you hate whitey?

>> No.25036216

>>25036154
The reason I ask is that I think woman must wear masks even more than men.
I'm curious as to what happened that resulted in you being
>locked out of certain circles
?
You don't have to elaborate if you don't want to. I don't want to intrude into your personal space...

>> No.25036236

>>25030678
no lie i remember seeing a tweet like 5 years ago that just said 'black people think culture is getting dressed up and taking pictures' lmaooo

>> No.25036257

>>25030678
lol just realized that kid ran to move trash out of their path. hope those negros live long lives in that shithole

>> No.25036307

>>25033707
wouldn't that be 2/3 of an a press?

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>>25032081
based, me too. my favorite clothes are the hoodie i got for free at work and a 6 year old pair of jeans

>> No.25036405

>>25036216

So me getting kicked out of certain circles happened at the corporate level at a multi billion dollar corporation. I was a young hot head that managed to land in the good graces of upper management due to a weird restructuring that happened I was a new grad that was reporting directly to a C suite due to the company undergoing massive changes. Due to me being one of their direct reports, I was able to attend meetings with other upper level executives, who were direct reports of the C Suite, and thus learned how executives really operate at higher levels I've seen alot of really fucked up shit. Executives really do treat employees like literal slaves The term wage slave is not a joke.

Anyway that executive left and another restructure happened, and new management came in. I thought that I still had the same level of "power" due to being a report of that other executive that left in the past..Boy was I wrong.

I got burned hard. I had an entire business unit of about 1000 people turn on me, with their executives trying to burn me at stake for them failing on a project that I was involved with. I tried to use direct language to communicate (because I was used to doing so due to me having the backing of the old C-suite). And this was a mistake. My words (directness) didn't have the same power as before, and I did not have the power to back up the words.

The other business unit VPs/directors set me up, by the time I realized what happened, all of my political capital at the company was gone and no one trusted me (who was a high enough level to know my past history and protect me) with anymore multi million dollar projects. I was ostracized, treated like a pariah and pretty much was forced to resign.

Had I played the indirect game and learned their tactics I might have survived... I've carried this lesson with me to every company I joined after.. It has served me well/.

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>>25036095
i.e. you made an autistic analogy and now you have to do your mental gymnastics to pretend as if people are not finding holes in your reasoning.
I'd like to remind you, your original thesis was "luxury goods are not a waste", yet now you're on some crack induced mental adventure creating caveats where purchases of a $500 is justified over a t-shirt that looks the same, because some people have the keen eye to spot a misaligned thread. LMAO

>> No.25036551

>>25036405
This sounds a lot like the Gervais Principle and the differences between Powertalk and Straight talk. Using doublespeak, to conceal the true intent in case an outsider overheard, yet those in-the-know are fully aware of that which you speak.

>> No.25036552

>>25031252
Lol at typing all this vomit out and then having the audacity to call others autistic.

You sound like you're middle class but wish to appear rich and that will get you nowhere. Yeah, go buy your BMW and "enchanted" $800 jeans while you rent an apartment and pay off credit card and bank loan debt.

>> No.25036618

>>25036551
Yeah that's a good way of describing it.

>>25036552
Well yes, I am autistic, I already mentioned that above. I however at no point mentioned that I was upper class / elite at all, I simply stated that I was wealthy (which is subjective). I don't understand the point of this strawman. I don't have any debts... I do however drive a nice car that I paid for in cash.. BMWs are garbage

>> No.25036660

>>25036618
Your stuff is good op, dont listen to the seethers that get filtered.

Other than status and spotting mannerisms are there any other tells to distinguish elite and nouveau riche, especially in terms of thinking?

>> No.25036661

>>25030678
>niggerrich.webm

>> No.25036690

>>25036405
That's life, live and learn right? I think every single person learns that lessen at some point in his/her life, plus you were still young.
Also, I think it's a matter of different strokes for different folks. Some people appreciate directness, but with other people one needs to take a different tact.
I was taught that the first rule of being a professional is: Mind Your Manners. Sometimes (actually, most of the time) you just have to suck it up, thats the game (as you correctly said).

>> No.25036784

>>25036660
I don't mind, I'm generally confused at some of the points made by people who are attempting to insult me with less than 1 post. They are cherry picking statements without reading the full thread. They are treating this thread and my individual post as if it was a twitter statement without reading the additional context in the thread (We are over 150 posts now). In a way, they are helping to prove my point about not having an elite education. Reading comprehension is an important skill set to have.

As for your question.. This is context based and really depends on the situation. I guess from a financial -thinking standpoint, nouvaeu rich will buy a flashy new car under their personal name and take out a loan on the car. An elite rich would buy the car under their business, write off the car as a business asset, and then donate the car to a non profit that they own, and then write off the car again, thus making the car free after utilizing multiple financial / tax loopholes. (This is very simplified and american specific).

>>25036690
Yep. I'm not bitter about (anymore). Getting your ass kicked (for lack of a better term) in situations like this helps to build character.

>> No.25036928

ITT: Autists with rich dads

>> No.25036955

>>25036618
I'm a working class brit and seem to pick up on "power talk" no issue and if I ever speak out about someones true intent am made out like some conspiracy theorist nutter. Whereas they seem to take stuff at face value. I do think many plebs are just naive, kind people that don't really see how the world works i.e. just keep working hard and success will come attitude.

I grew up being direct and genuine, but found it's set me back more than anything and found myself using more "power talk" as I've got older.

>> No.25036956

>>25031299
Cheaper to buy them at Walmart and on 3:5 sale.

t. 4+ a day sometimes

>> No.25037037

>>25033726
"The Economist" is regarded as an elitist publication? I feel like it's too mainstream.
I feel like there's something that should be said about exploiting autists' effort in the Information Age rather than conventional publications as well. You get the manpower of a thousand people for the price of nothing.

>> No.25037043

>>25036784
Interesting. I know you said wealthy and elite are 2 different connotations due to difference in social connection and old power.

Where do the elites stand usually (for i assume they are not just one family kek) in politics? To what extend do their talks, connections and lobbying affect the political power and what we see on Tv for candidates today?

>> No.25037129

>>25030889
>>25031012
Why is it always the Rolex with you people? Accessories are for women and rappers.

>> No.25037194

>>25036955
Yeah that's intended. Calling out individuals should only be done in certain contexts. In some cultures, this is an absolute no no (See Chinese: And Saving Face Culture).

I pick up on power talk as well, the problem is that I'm jaded and tired. I stopped caring about ladder climbing. unfortunately, due to the system we all live in, everyone else is playing the game while you aren't. This makes you different, a non conformist, and this is seen as dangerous. The system only has power if people use the system. If people start rebelling and ignoring the system then the people who are at the top of the system lose their power, and they most certainly do not like that. They unfortunately have the power to use the system you are trying to rebel against to crush you.

>>25037037
Yes and No. I think the Wallstreet Journal is a better publication. With that being said, you should read multiple publications so you can be exposed to multiple view points. From there you can make your own decision.

>>25037043
I cannot provide you with a non superficial answer to that question. I'm not part of those inner circles. But what I can tell you is that those connections and lobbying power have a major effect. The issue is that I cannot begin to articulate how far that power expands and ripples across multiple parts of society or the world. I just don't have the insight or the exposure.

>> No.25037317

>>25035376
"you are a very faggoty person"

>> No.25037329

>>25034058
This information is only useful if you're trying to impress a wealthy baroness or become a courtier. Real life isn't Barry Lyndon and we don't live in a feudal society. *Maybe* certain elements of the upper class in England care about this shit but the majority of people making big money moves nowadays absolutely don't. You'd be far better off learning how to conduct yourself like a normal and personable human being than whatever autistic shit you learned in your (lmao) etiquette class.

>> No.25037340

>>25030844
I owned one and it ended up locking up on me.

>> No.25037364

>>25037329

This post immediately tells me you did not take the time to read the thread. I already said that you should not do this in certain social circles or circumstances. See: (>>25034474)

You'd be better off learning how to read the entire thread like a normal and personable human being.

>> No.25037487

>>25037317
Well thank you kind sir. Ditto.

>> No.25037503

>>25037194
>With that being said, you should read multiple publications so you can be exposed to multiple view points.
Fair.
I would like to say that, provided that your posts are accurate and this isn't an elaborate LARP, the mannerisms and new ways to "break in" to the elite aren't really difficult. Materialism was one of the great barriers for actual poorfags but even an upper-middle-class pleb like me can fulfill many of the requirements you laid out. It's kind of surprising, really.

>> No.25037579

>>25037503
Definitely not a LARP, I provided my sources and everything I've picked up over the years. A larp would imply that I'm pretending to be wealthy / elite. I already stated that I am not multiple times. I'm just trying to fill in blanks for people on biz that may not have the chance to be exposed to info on topics like this. That being said another post mentioned that its hard to learn some of these social skills as an adult, which I can see..

>> No.25037597

>>25037364
You can't make me =)

>> No.25037654

>>25037194
Apologies, I edited what I'd originally written and didn't proof read afterwards.
I don't call people out (I did when younger) but I will bring up the true meaning of what someone said later to peers at my level, who dismiss what I say as rubbish.

We sound very similar. I grew up with ideals of what the world should be like which turned me cynical which led to me being jaded and tired like you say. I usually just live in libertarian mode of leave me be and I'll let you play your little games, until they try them on with me then I suddenly get a bout of energy and expose the house of cards that is their illusion of power.
Like you say, they have the system behind them and as I've got older and gained more of an idea of where I want to be (financial independence) I just play along for my own self-preservation as doing what I was doing would just lead to unemployment or even prison.

Nietzsche had me pondering on if I'm just a noble spirit amongst the wrong class of people and brought up in the wrong environment. Thankfully there's the internet now.

I've found I'm more willing to play when I get good sleep and take Vitamin D and Ashwagandha, plus obviously exercise which admittedly has been neglected due to gyms being closed. Maybe give that a shot if you haven't already?

>> No.25037705

>>25037579
I did actually go through many of your sources and most of them looked relatively reputable. Some of the terms that you used were new to me but they're easy to comprehend and resources exist that define them (as well as their counterparts).
At the very least I'm glad to hear that there is the opportunity for social mobility without owning ridiculous material possessions.

>> No.25037721

>>25037597
Wanna bet?

>> No.25037765

>>25037654
Yep I feel as if we are very similar.
> I grew up with ideals of what the world should be like which turned me cynical which led to me being jaded and tired like you say. I usually just live in libertarian mode of leave me be and I'll let you play your little games, until they try them on with me then I suddenly get a bout of energy and expose the house of cards that is their illusion of power.
I align with this statement very much

>take Vitamin D and Ashwagandha, plus obviously exercise which admittedly has been neglected due to gyms being closed.
I do all of these things, I also have a large bag of ashwagandha from a great source. Check out this site (based out of the UK)
https://www.ancientpurity.com/

As for fitness I recommend a Mutt Bar from Rogue Fitness. I use one of these at home for full body workouts and HITT while the gym is closed.

https://www.roguefitness.com/mutt-bars

>> No.25037832

>>25035555
Joe was not a fighter

>> No.25037855

>>25037129
Yes, a Rolex has lost some of its social capital due to becoming popular with certain segments of the population, the elite now would wear something like a rare Patek Philippe.

>> No.25037914

>>25037855
I always thought Rolex's were butt ugly.

>> No.25038147

>>25037721
Kan jy jou woorde gerugsteun met geveld, boetie? =)

>> No.25038212

>>25031252
The amount of fucking butthurt in reply to this tells me how right and true it must all be lol. Really great analogies. As an RPG obsessed nerd it kind of put it all in perspective.

>> No.25038224

>>25037765
Thanks for this.

Currently buying ashwagandha capsules off amazon but this seems a way cheaper solution. How do you take it in powder form?

Those Mutt Bars look ideal. I have a cheap weights bench but am limited for space for squats and the like due to the width so this could be a great solution for that.

Just wondering, what is your take on the role of politicians in this game/stage?

>> No.25038252

>>25030817
You get taxed to death.
And when the state start seizing your shit, your fucked mate

>> No.25038465

>>25038224
I use a measuring spoon, the bag has measuring spoon to gram(s) guide directly printed on it.

Politicians are some of the strongest "Players" in the game. Using another tech/game analogy.

Law is basically source code of the system that we participate in. You as a player of the game and being subject to the system are directly impacted by the source code and have to follow the source code. Politicians have the ability to change the rules of the game, thus in a way they have alot of power. However, people can be influenced by various means (money incentives otherwise). Just because you write the rules of the game doesn't mean you don't have to follow said rules. And so it's kind of like an endless cycle of having power but being corrupted by your own power.

You can choose not to follow the source code but as I mentioned before, if you attempt to do so you are punished (socially, punitively, financially) etc etc.

>> No.25038499

>>25035594
based neo-barbarian

>> No.25038509

>>25030678
Getting everything you own hand-made by an individual craftsman in your city is cheaper than buying expensive brands, and signal class instead of fashion. This applies to all things. (A tailored handmade suit from a nobody makes you the only person in the world that owns it. Much more exclusive than Guuci.)

>> No.25038511

>>25038147
Nee oom. Ek rugsteun net data.

>> No.25038591

>>25038509
Honestly, I agree with this to an extent. High-quality artisan works are more valuable than those shoveled out by brand factories in my opinion. The core things that brands have going for them is resale value and public recognition.

>> No.25038746

>>25038465
I'd agree with that as a more objective and neutral view of them. Even a good way of explaining it to someone who might want to choose that path.

I personally find they are akin to customer service reps. A buffer for the real powers if you will. They can tweak the system here and there to keep the customers satisfied and keep order, but at the end of the day are still at the whim of the people who pay their wages (lobbyists).

It's an interesting observation that the more one attempts to escape the system and eventually come to the realisation there are no rules, the more one is found to be playing along with the rules. A more willing participant rather than just letting life happen to them.

>> No.25038833

>>25038465
Would that mean lawyers are oracles?

>> No.25038977

>>25030678
having a few 18 year old gf into BDSM living at my place

>> No.25038978

It's very hard to overcome your poor upbringing despite the accumulation of status symbols. Interacting with old money people is bizarre. They have names for shit you don't understand, have all sorts of customs and manners designed to signal each other. If you make it from nothing its best to make friends with this types so at least your children make it socially even if you didn't.

>> No.25039000

>>25030678
1 big screen tv/projector

Best 80 inch 8 k tv is like 3 grand now. Combine with pirating and never go to the movies again. Get a popcorn maker and decent chairs and charge yr friends 5 bucks a movie

>> No.25039197

>>25031012
Not all cars lose their value at the rate you think they do, if you buy lightly used. The world of Ferraris, Lambos, Porsches, even just old classic American cars, is full of examples of cars that appreciate over time, or at least maintain value. Just don't rack up daily driver miles.

>> No.25039243

>>25038833
Interesting question. I'm not sure if they count as oracles since they make the rules, not try interpret them from a higher power.

>> No.25039363

>>25033945
>muh cotillion
nobody cares about that shit anymore

>> No.25039392

>>25031012
Get a vintage watch from one of the Big 3

>> No.25039538

My uncle sold an NFL franchise not too long ago, I've seen pretenders and the real elite types. It comes down to be white, don't ever lose your cool, don't be gaudy, and your real luxury piece is the latest hot mistress you're banging. The richest guy I know drives a Mazda suv. Granted he's also got a few audi's but his daily driver is a shitty suv.

>> No.25039541

>>25038465
Hmm. My mother used to be quite wealthy. She'd fuck things up massively, and lost most of it. But growing up she refused to send me to regular school(mostly just teaching me herself, which was very ineffective). She put an extreme pressure on me to learn many etiquette rules I found quite odd or outdated. She always refereed to common people in an almost chattel context(but was extremely two faced in this and was able to change the way she handled herself on a whim for the context) and hated me mingling with them as a kid. Sometimes she'd even go so far as to subtly imitate the accent of whomever she was talking to on the phone, if she was trying to close some sort of deal, I laughed my fucking ass of at this - but I think it actually worked half the time.

>> No.25039714

>>25039363
If you think royal families don't care about old traditions (hence why they are royal), then well... I don't know what to say to you. But I respect your opinion..

>>25039541
Yeah the cattle thing seems to be a common theme. I mentioned something similar above.

>> No.25039720

>>25036185
I stand with you my friend.

>> No.25039746

>>25036928
and? How is this a bad thing? If your rich parents aren't imbeciles they can afford you high quality education, as well as tutors, and extracurriculars like fencing, polo, lacrosse etc.

>> No.25039784

>>25031252
I have never understood autism more than I have after reading this post

>> No.25039805

>>25039541
Mirroring is a highly effective tool.

As someone who's common class (working class in britain) I'd say the people around me are very much like chattel. I don't necessarily say that negatively (although I know others will see it in such light). Give them a purpose and give them orders and majority will fall into line. Some through naivety and others due to not having any bargaining chips of their own.

>> No.25039843

>>25037855
East coast elites like to wear vintage timex for whatever reason. I used to sail out of Hyannis, and all the Coasties that you could tell were old money wore way more timex's than I ever expected. All older models, 60's era.

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>>25031669
It's half an A press faggot, you don't release the button

>> No.25039873

>>25037340
Yo I'm second-hand angry for you.

>> No.25039902

>>25039784
I'm taking this as a complement.

>> No.25039968

Depends on the person and what they value. For me it's whores. I'd get at least one 10/10 a week and do degenerate things to her, still cheaper than a wife and kids lmao

>> No.25039994

>>25031252
So its a shitty unfun mandatory pay to win game
I refuse to play this game any more than is necessary
Sounds like hell.

>> No.25040094

>>25039714
well of course royal families care about that. i'm talking about day to day in the US, in business and social settings. people don't even wear ties anymore.

>> No.25040173

>>25040094
Depends on the circles you are in. I wear a tie daily even though it is not mandated by my office, and most men in the circles I am involved with (outside of work) do.

>> No.25040233

>>25030678
anything involving a presale like glitch.finance

>> No.25040262

>>25039805

Yeah, that's the natural structure of human society. an Aristocracy may as well be a biological phenomenon, like leaders of pack. No ideology will ever get rid of them, just re-name them and maybe kill the old ones. I have a cool story, though. My mother basically raised me as an employee. She thought it would instill discipline in me - or something - but I think she literally thought of me as an employee after a while, but that's irrelevant. I was on a job site with loads of contractors, and was a fascination to alot of these guys because I didn't fit in very well, but loved the technical aspect of construction(I was early teens). Anyway - I liked to observe the contractors and hear about their life stories. I meet this tile dude, and he was excellent at installing huge marble or granite slabs for hotels or whatever - but in conversation he was inept because of his junkie speech patters. IIRC, it was cocaine and adderal - but anyway, he has written this whole fucking political mannifesto and I sit down with him and he discusses with me his model of society. He sees, and admits, that he does not have the mental capability to escape his status at the bottom of his hierarchy, (chattel), and that was his greatest regret in life. His main reasoning behind this was that he was easily manipulated into consumerism and spending any money he made from his company - which he'd defunct'd for cocaine money - combined with an inability negotiate for shit. He wanted me to talk to his daughter, who he had reserved hundreds of thousands of dollars for - to send to a private school, "so she could get a glimpse of the world outside her class". Cool guy.

>> No.25040433

>>25034474
>>25034125
When Hitler first began meeting with wealthy industrialists and financiers at parties they were shocked by his horrible etiquette and even army officers were offended by his obvious poor background

>> No.25040463

>>25039000
I can't imagine a more low status move than charging your friends to hang out and watch a film.

>> No.25040486

>>25031252
interesting

>> No.25040555
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25040555

>make enough money to escape the rat race
>focus on impressing the kikes with your $500 shirt so they'll let you suck their cocks

>> No.25040628

>>25040262
Precisely. Iron law of oligarchy etc. No matter what ideology is implemented, humans will naturally gravitate towards some sort of leader.
Regarding your story, it's nice to see that people are waking up to their position and taking action. It doesn't sound like the guy was mentally incapable but just lacked the willpower to overcome his consumerism and push towards "being his best self" atleast he'd come up with a plan to give his offspring the best opportunity he could.
I've still plenty of time myself to end up higher up the hierarchy. But even if not, like that guy, I hope to atleast set the foundations in place for if I ever have kids.

If you don't mind me asking, where have you ended up?

>> No.25040637

>>25030725

I want a fuckin gold plated Deagle chambered in .50 AE

>> No.25040655
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25040655

>>25031252
We are reaching autism levels who shouldn't be possible...

>> No.25040847

>>25031252
incredibly based post

>> No.25040925

>>25040628
Meh, ask later. That story only happened a year ago :)

>> No.25040993

>>25040655
>>25040847

I unironically think like this IRL. I am high functioning, I think...well high enough to be able to maintain a job

>> No.25041052

>>25030882
This

>> No.25041125

>>25040925
It's only the last 4 years or so I changed my perspective on things. Still a very slow grind!

>>25040993
It's a blessing and a curse. Ability to be a social butterfly (if you can maintain the energy required) combined with autistic analysis. I believe great things can be achieved with this combination with the right determination i.e. the likes of Teddy Roosevelt

>> No.25041130

>>25033619
Based

>> No.25041194

>>25035594
This is true

>> No.25041267

>>25034210
>english not 1st language
What is?

>> No.25041272

>>25041125
The older I become, the more I realize how debilitating my late diagnosed autism is and has been. I hope it will work out better for you

>> No.25041297

>>25041125
Being a social butterfly (or chameleon as I always heard it) is easy when you think of yourself in an environment where everything you say and do is to achieve an end goal. Sure, these environments can take a lot of energy, since maybe you don't get the opportunity to let your guard down, but they shouldn't be bothersome. Separate work and academia from genuine relationships. At least for me personally, there is no fun in a relationship with someone if I cannot display 90% my true thoughts and opinions.

>> No.25041582

>>25041125
It's certainly very...draining.
>>25041267
Creole

>> No.25041962

>>25041297
Yes, I am with you in this. My friend who has incredible social skills has tried to teach me some tips on this I have found very helpful.
1 Never make someone else feel stupid (mentioned above)
2 Let the other person "win" at least 1/3-2/3 of the time. This means resisting the autistic urge to correct people or "be right," to give up some ground when it doesn't matter to allow the other person to feel good and build some rapport.
3 I feel I can already do this, but instead of being autistic and not being able to look people in the eyes, I stare way tok much right into peoples eyes. In a situation where people are drinking and having fun, this stops being weird and people feel you really care about what they have to say.
This being said, I still feel most relationships I have are mostly transactional, and I can only speak how I want with about 5-6 very close friends.

>> No.25042123

>>25031870

>etiquette training is a common part of the elite skill set

this is more applicable in europe where people pick up on things like that. in america most extremely wealthy people are still only first or second generation wealth, old money is not as influential as in other places and therefore etiquette (at the levels youre speaking of i.e. which fork to use) is not really applicable. plus old money, american or otherwise, are all huge faggots and the worst kinds of people that you don't want to hang around unless you have absolutely zero personality or are a social climbing drone with your only ambition being to swallow as many loads as possible to become accepted by people who will never see you as their equal.

>> No.25042163

>>25030882
So much this. Investing on my health, was one of the best investments I've ever made, it improved my decision making a lot too.

>> No.25042253

>>25041272
In what way is your autism debilitating?
I'm more autistic online as I can just sperg whatever thoughts come to mind. In the real world it's less of an issue besides the odd quirky or cynical remark. I generally try live in the moment, whereas online I can sit back and have a ponder.


>>25041297
I'd prefer to think of it as socially adaptable. Chameleon would imply I'm making an actual attempt to blend in whereas I'm just being myself within a given situation. This can either be eccentric and carefree or more quiet and reserved depending on the situation and whom.
It just seems I prefer discussing systems/ideas over people/relationships. Although I can do both.

>> No.25042326

took some time to learn how to eat properly
you never put food on a fork tines up
fork stays in left hand. knife and spoon in right.
totally opposite of how i was taught growing up.
just shoveled food onto fork and thought it was fine

>> No.25042371

>>25041582
so my friend got into some big power/money circles in a spin class now hes a hot shot broker.

how can i plug in with those in the know?

i dont gym.any tips?

>> No.25042375

>>25042326
The idea behind the knife being in the right hand is that:

You can stabilise the food you're cutting with the fork

And then use your right - dominant hand to cut effectively.

>> No.25042430

>>25042375
>>25042326
are u guys retarded or what? u don't know how to use utensils?

>> No.25042659

>>25042371
By being in the right place at the right time.

>> No.25042725

>>25035314
I think it just means you’re tempered.

>> No.25042764

>>25042659
thanks mate

ill try get myself out there more

>> No.25042975

I was raised in an "upper-class" household (although not rich, crucial distinction) in Europe and I do recognise most of the mannerisms that are referenced here, as well as the various details that people have brought up on the subject of attire.

Another thing that hasn't been discussed here yet is that there really is "secret" knowledge that is discussed in these so-called elite circles, but it's not about what you think. I cannot even begin to describe the kind of status-games that goes on in these circles with things like club memberships, knowing people close to the royal family in whatever country you're based in, and the various "secret" societies that is really a bunch of old soggy men finding excuses to get away from their wives for a night of camaraderie and alcohol (yes, I am a member of a couple).

What I can say though is that it is very, very, very obvious when someone is faking it and you can almost always tell on their body language as well as the way they dress. There are a lot of details that are rarely mentioned online or in books which is usually passed down to you from your parents.

And also, the number one rule is never, ever, ever discuss wealth under any circumstances. Business is fine but bragging is pathetic and there will always be an old-money asshole with far more money than you so there really isn't any point to brag in these circles.

Ask me anything I guess.

>> No.25043069

>>25042371
It's called optionality maximization, Taleb talks about it in a way. Being around rich/successful/connected people, or even being in the same places they hang out (art/culture events/festivals, top end gyms, private clubs, top restaurants, business class flights between NY and LA) puts you in situations where something good could happen. Be in those places and try to start up natural conversations without looking like you are trying to network.

>> No.25043085

>>25042975
>club memberships et al
I'm not surprised but that's not something I'd be worried about until I've made it, frankly.'
>body language
As in typical "liar" body language or absent mannerisms?

>> No.25043088

>>25042975
I suppose you have to dive into the "secret knowledge", anon.
I'm assuming it's similar to old wives tales though?

>> No.25043093

>>25042975
Also, >>25031252 is 100% correct and the people seething against it are either jealous, underage, or are eternally cursed to be a pleb and will never gain the appreciation of those that really run the world.

The key here is that you can still be an edgy contrarian, just be subtle about it and make sure to continue to do all the rituals and wear the right clothing at the right time so you maintain your social "status".

Hint: the SV techbros that wear hoodies everywhere and cannot behave properly, while rich, are NOT respected in old-money circles and there are A LOT of doors that are closed to them.

>> No.25043149

>>25042975
What are the weirdest strange rules that are not obvious manners? A friend of mine mentioned there are some words you are never supposed to use. Actually name some and I'll see if this is larp or not.
What secret clubs are actually real/influential and what ones are fake? I could imagine some in the US, but if you are in Europe I may not be familiar.
Name some body language or manners that aren't listed in any book, as this would be most useful for people who can figure out the basics. I have no belief that I would ever be able to fake this kind of upbringing, but I think that people appreciate the manners as a sort of social lubrication of not annoying one another.

>> No.25043185

>>25031252
you're mostly right anon.
>prole gap
overlooked, seemingly inconsequential shit like this is how you can tell whether someone has made it or not

>> No.25043187

>>25043085
>I'm not surprised but that's not something I'd be worried about until I've made it, frankly.'

Not sure how it is in the U.S. but club memberships is the #1 signalling mechanism of where you are in the upper-class pecking order in the UK and most Commonwealth countries. You simply cannot become a member of the most exclusive ones without knowing people and being "approved" by the already existing members, even if you are a billionaire.

I do not want to dox myself but my father (who in his best years MAYBE had a max 7-figure NW) who used to be on the governing committee at a very reputable club actually rejected a billionaire because the candidate lacked taste and was incredibly ostentatious.

Another thing, to become a member at a good club you usually need to be proposed by an already existing member and be supported by a varying number of other members depending on the club (usually it's one other person, but can be up to 30-40 in the most exclusive ones). The catch is that if you are rejected you are effectively permabanned from the club and the person that proposed you needs to resign as well out of convention. It is a very good safety mechanism to ensure that people who do not belong never become members.

>> No.25043267

>>25043149
>A friend of mine mentioned there are some words you are never supposed to use. Actually name some and I'll see if this is larp or not.

Can't think of any off the top of my head but one good one is to never refer to a restroom as a "toilet". Never, ever, ever use the word "tuxedo", that is a sure-sign of a low-class person who is larping hard. The proper word is "black tie" or "dinner jacket".

There are countless examples and it really depends on the context but these are the big ones.

>> No.25043285

>>25042975
when your money works for you how do you occupy all your free time?

>> No.25043310

>>25043285
Like I said, I'm not rich. I was just raised in an upper-class/old-money-esque environment and had these sort of things drilled into me by my parents.

So just like everyone else I am forced to wageslave unfortunately, and I refuse to ask my parents for money out of principle.

>> No.25043319

>>25039852
anon....are you still holding onto that controller?

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>>25043149
>What are the weirdest strange rules that are not obvious manners?

The knot of tie you use and its pattern is a very telling way to see if someone has taste and is part of the club or not. Four-in-hand is the only acceptable tie knot and using any variant of the Windsor knot makes you look like a used car salesman larping as an aristocrat. Never use striped ties because they (at least in the Commonwealth and particularly the UK) are almost exclusively reserved for people who have attended a particular institution. See pic related for Eton's tie.

I can guarantee you that if you wear a tie like this and are in the right circles someone will ask you which boarding house you lived in (or if a club tie, who else you know at the club), and if you say you just picked it up online and don't know what it means you are going to get blacklisted as a disgusting poser by the person you've been speaking with.

>> No.25043404

>>25043187
Well the club signaling is something I can see; I was invited to a club and had met some of the board but it shut down due to the wuflu and shit economic conditions we already had for 5 years prior. It definitely wasn't a super exclusive club, but I at least know what you're getting at.

So TLDR don't look like a mongoloid, don't pose, and see which clubs you can get in. Sounds easy enough so long as you understand the etiquette

>> No.25043445

>>25043267
Ok one more test, where does old money in Europe go for holiday in August?

>> No.25043518

>>25043310
i see.

well top man,all the best to you anon

>> No.25043629

>>25030678
nitrogen gas

>> No.25043698

>>25043445
This really depends on who you are speaking to. South of France/the Riviera is a classic but many of my younger friends are more keen on going to places like Mykonos and other nouevau destinations nowadays. Probably because St. Tropez and Cannes is getting filled with a bunch of Arabs and Russians trying to emulate their European contemporaries.

>> No.25043734

>>25043698
Is trying to be in the upper circles worth it? What should wealthy anons try to do?

>> No.25043904

>>25043734
Unless you've grown up in it I am not too sure if it is worth it. There is a lot of circlejerkery going on and these people (including myself) are absolutely disgusted by social climbers, but I do wish you best of luck and if you can pull off the vibe without looking like a social climber then good job.

If you really do want to break into these circles I would recommend going to classic "elite" holiday destinations when things open up again and talking to the right people at nightclubs. Many of these people are normal people and you can find one or two fellow autists in the crowd, including many that browse this god-forsaken website. Watch out for the nutjobs and coke-addicts, as well as the others who larp as rich people. Here be sharks.

>> No.25044065

>>25043088
It's not WEF Great Reset tier stuff, but you are generally privy to a lot of things before the general public finds out about it. Word spreads fast that is for sure.

But most of it is gossip about minor members of royal families and other irrelevant stuff.

>> No.25044153

>>25035951
>Your way of insulting, however, has a certain subtlety to it, a kind of deviousness that cuts to the bone, wouldn't you say?
Nigga are you a Dostoyevsky character?

>> No.25044167

>>25030725
this is the only thing I envy americans about

>> No.25044185

>>25036185
Based Grinch anon

>> No.25044257

>>25031669
SNIFFFFFFFFFF

>> No.25044260

>>25030678
those niggers are fucking gay bro, unironically. Just look at the close up of their faces does that scream hetero nigger who slays pussy on a daily basis or butt boy who loves to be the bottom.

>> No.25045044

>>25030765

Right on. Tools, in other words -- quality practical goods, which I'd argue aren't really "luxury" in the usual sense.

Though if you do a lot of camping a synthetic tent can die on you when you least expect it, no matter how much you paid for it. The only truly durable tents are canvas, but you won't be backpacking with them.

>> No.25045348

>>25030678
Dapper af
Carry on gentlemen, carry on

>> No.25045551

>>25043904
>as well as the others who larp as rich people
lmao
you're really patting yourself on the back with that one aren't you

>> No.25045989

>no girls allowed in sentinel threads
as it should be

>> No.25046024

>>25044167
British or Japanese?

>> No.25046045

>>25031252
Dangerously based

>> No.25046073

>>25030678
Capitalism Alienation

Makes you believe unessecary things are actually worth it. So you spend your life working instead of living
Same thing for expensive cars, watches, ... etc

>> No.25046089

>>25032081
Nobodies triggered, if you wanna dress like a hobo people just assume you’re a bum and will treat you as such

>> No.25046111

>>25030678
>>25032176
We already covered this

>> No.25046589

>>25044065
what sort of things did you hear about before the general public?

>> No.25046652

>>25030678
Unironically based. They get to be top dogs without the means to be wealthy. But the blue jacket seems a bit tight.

>>25036041
>>25036405
I'm a poorfag and haven't been in any such circles but my overall observation has been that people who come from wealth simply don't take things as seriously as I. Any sign of naive interest or passion almost seems childlike and newfaggy for them. They're so ahead in life experiences (having girls, making decisions, having everyone look up to them, etc.) that they can't but cringe at anyone who hasn't gotten past the stage of still taking things seriously due to a severe lack of experience.

They'll speak in tongues during social interactions and will aim for personal enjoyment in the form of sarcasm or clever wordplay or outright mocking you while you're very seriously trying to push through a serious discussion. You'll never be on the same level with them, they can just run circles around you. They will never take what you say seriously and the best chance of impressing them is getting better at their own game. Regardless of what you otherwise accomplish, they'll always see you as a puny little naive child.

I'm not sure if this goes for girls from wealth, though. Girls seem much more easily impressed by simple confidence. Naivete even seems charming to them. Childlike spark.

>> No.25046748

>>25046652
Agreed /they/ never seem to get rustled and seem to take things in their stride, why don’t /they/ show their emotions as much as others? especially anger, I don’t know any elites but have a friend who’s a well known, successful barrister here that’s my reference point, they’re very subtle, understand the system and get their way without force

>> No.25046840

>>25046748
It's just a lifetime of the ability to really interact with the world. The ability (not guarantee) to get what you want. By the time you're passionately talking about the news you just read or the idea you had, they've basically "been there done that". They've made the news, they've had the money. They've had the hottest girls hit on them, they've had their drug ridden parties, cool toys to play with, smart people to brush shoulders with. Basically they've done it all and bored of it by now. Any unadulterated interest, emotion, one way or the other simply shows how much below them you are.

They couldn't relate to you even if they wanted. You're literally (objectively) a child compared to them in that regard.

>> No.25046852

>>25030765
based anon. would do the same.

>> No.25046859

>>25030678
Audemars Piguet Royal oak 15450, blue or white dial. It’s such a beautiful luxury watch.

>> No.25046874

>>25046652
>I'm a poorfag and haven't been in any such circles but my overall observation has been that people who come from wealth simply don't take things as seriously as I. Any sign of naive interest or passion almost seems childlike and newfaggy for them. They're so ahead in life experiences (having girls, making decisions, having everyone look up to them, etc.) that they can't but cringe at anyone who hasn't gotten past the stage of still taking things seriously due to a severe lack of experience.
>They'll speak in tongues during social interactions and will aim for personal enjoyment in the form of sarcasm or clever wordplay or outright mocking you while you're very seriously trying to push through a serious discussion. You'll never be on the same level with them, they can just run circles around you. They will never take what you say seriously and the best chance of impressing them is getting better at their own game. Regardless of what you otherwise accomplish, they'll always see you as a puny little naive child.

There's no point being insecure about anything you do anon, some people care and some won't, emulating worthless aspects of other peoples behaviour will not gain you anything. There are people who will look down on you no matter what. Just do whatever you like, the ability to be excited and passionate about something is a gift.

>> No.25046888

>>25046589
>>25044065
and also, is race important in these kinds of circles?
how is race brought up?

>> No.25046964

>>25046874
There was nothing but observation in my post. No value assessment.

That said, there's no point in pretending their life isn't the goal. The point isn't mere emulation (except for practical necessity in some situations), but an attainment of existence whereby your experiences give you the ability to remain cool at all times.

The only real drawback in how they are is that their carelessness may translate into complacency. That is a major reason why the bourgeoisie has always been historically and politically inert. Their careless removes their ability for struggle. That is something you want to keep in mind, once you get into the dangerous territory of noveau riche.

>> No.25047082

>>25046888
You would be surprised. Diversity and race are topics for plebs not for the elite. 99% of them aside from delusional women don't give a shit about it and they are only paying lip service because it makes them look better.

>> No.25047105

>>25031252
read this post and you replies
fuck those cunts, I am open for everything you wrote
Also your writing style and insulting in the replies is on a different levels compared to those plebs.
Well I am a pleb too, but at least someone who is working to un-pleb himself.

Do you got any more ressources to read into?

>> No.25047380

Based advice in here, I’m in my mid 30s, made a few mil from crypto had a kid and now she’s growing up it’s made me realise that for her to have advantages she needs to at least learn some of this stuff. Me personally I’ve always been more of a rough type of guy whos worked physical jobs, didn’t finish high school, ive always dressed casual, now id often dress like I’m still 21, I don’t even know anyone rich and I’m from a modest regular poorish family. But I’m working on bringing some class to myself, more for my kid and future kids then myself as it’s mostly too late for me, any advice on how to do this when you wouldn’t even know where to begin? I guess carrying yourself better with dressing, speaking and acting well is the start. I wanna be a good role model for my family and ideally expose them to bigger thinking/ideas which is what I feel is lacking in the middle/lower class and maybe my next gen can get a few steps closer then I got.

>> No.25047400

>>25030678
Motorbikes

>> No.25047842

Black people are all just Ric Flair

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>>25032081
I loved you in Uncut Gems

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>>25030678
>pic related

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>>25039000
>charing your friends 5$ for coming over and watching a movie
Bro, that's a level of jewishness I haven't even seen

>> No.25047997

>>25030678
Value increasing luxury watches.

>> No.25048047

>>25032559
There isn't really any secret education. You just organically pick up the "right" manners, habits, and ideas by being raised around them. If you didn't grow up with them, it's very difficult to imitate them naturally, people who did grow up with them will always sense something off

t. Went to an ivy league

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25048128

linkies are like boomers
sentinels are like zoomers

>> No.25048241

>>25030678
if you are uber wealthy, buying works of art from well known artists is basically free money because the value always goes up. And you get to publicly swing your dick around while looking sophisticated.

>> No.25048339

>>25031054
They’d be mirked if it was at night but those guys are like the Chads of their country

>> No.25048371

>>25031252
What the fuck

>> No.25048649

>>25031252
This fucking analogy holy shit. Fucking gold

>> No.25049787

>>25034058
This is very interesting anon, I will honestly never do this shit, but I'm a character designer trying to make it into big animation films eventually, this is gold for human behaviour nerds like myself
reminds me of Anton Ego eating in ratatuille.

>> No.25050692

>>25031252
>etiquette teachers (needs to help you enter very high social circles)
no

>> No.25051747

>>25047380
You're still in the lower class mentality because you think carrying yourself a certain way defines your status

If you want your kids to go far teach them to look past the way people signal themselves and see what they're actually made of (what they own, what their skills are, how they treat others)

And if you want your kids to be god tier teach them how to counter signal

>> No.25052461

>>25031007
like you list brother.
>quality not luxury items (Clothes, tech)
>know its a meme but a good mechanical watch beats the hell out of buying a new smart watch every year.
>an asian car with lots of features but without the $$$ tag
>ART ART ART
>A quality house with low upkeep / utility costs
>A vacation home
>A well equipped kitchen ( will actually save you $$$)

>> No.25052756

>>25031007
>>25052461
>art
what?

>> No.25052937

>>25052756
>Art
was going to ask the same, what Art is everyone talking about?

>> No.25053026

>>25052937
People are also listing things like, spacious house, updated kitchen, etc. Lol you can buy a cheap house anywhere, knock down some walls and update your kitchen and have a better house than what you would consider houses of "wealthy" people, because most of the cost of housing for them is location.

>> No.25053076

>>25031217
5d chess move. Impressive.

>> No.25053149

Wealthy families spend their money on INVESTMENTS, that's why they remain wealthy. It's the single biggest difference. They still shit in porcelain toilets like everyone else.

>> No.25053177

>>25037037
>"The Economist" is regarded as an elitist publication? I feel like it's too mainstream.

Its a Rothschilds propaganda magazine.
The answer to ever economic problem is always the same, more immigration and privatise public assets.

>> No.25053427

>>25032559
>>25032704
>>25048047
>ivy league
lol that's nothing
Look up "family office".

>> No.25054365

>>25030765
incredibly based