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25563229 No.25563229 [Reply] [Original]

Why is this image so accurate? Why are people with average IQ incapable of making good financial decisions

>> No.25563438

Because they are smart enough to "just" grasp technical indicators, but not the meta-indicators and wider social context that actually makes those things valuable. This makes them overly confident in subject areas where they aren't really competent and never can be, because "at least know more than a low IQ."

>> No.25563597

>>25563438
this

>> No.25563645

It's why they're politically idiots as well, they're smart enough to pay some attention to the mainstream news, but not smart enough to realize the mainstream news is playing them like a fiddle and curating their content

>> No.25563747

130+ IQ people are unironically the biggest goddamn idiots, because they don't listen to anyone due to sheer arrogance and can think up excuses when they fail.

>> No.25563888

>>25563747
120 IQ cope

>> No.25563911

>>25563229
I have an average IQ and I make smart finacial decisions. Sugg muh dick nigger

>> No.25563931

>>25563747
stay dumb, dumb fag

>> No.25563944

>>25563229
They are usually the people with a lot to lose in our current system, but still lack the understanding that you don't even have to play the game at all. They don't think outside the box because things have worked out well enough for them with their middle class office job, 30 year mortgage, and leased Nissan Rogue.

>> No.25563949

>>25563747
big boy detected

>> No.25563968

>>25563747
This is also true. It's not that they are idiots but their viewpoints are definitely myopic.

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>>25563229

>> No.25564044
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>>25563978
>believing in evolution
midwit detected

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25564049

You missed something.

The image you posted is implying that people with a sub-100 IQ and people with an IQ above 130 make great friends. The people in the middle are the ones who get fucked. Too smart to see things very simply, too dumb to comprehend the bigger picture.

>> No.25564065

>>25563438
/thread

>> No.25564074

>>25563978
based

>> No.25564129

Rather be a midwit than an incel desu

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>> No.25564263

>>25563229
>120
>average
My wife who's a psychologist has some bad news for you guys

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>>25563229
Retards are dumb enough to gamble on shitcoins. High IQ autists are inteligent enough to see the future that is to come and what is needed to create it.

Its subjective though it's kind of fascinating that extreme retards and high IQ's pretty much do the same thing. You could argue that the high IQ is retarded for buying shitcoins and that the retard is brilliant for buying shitcoins.

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25564273

>>25563944
I quit my job and my life is now pic related
My boomer parents can't comprehend why I am unwilling to play the game/climb the workplace ladder

>> No.25564301

>>25563229
Reddit says the Flynn effect means IQ is constantly going up.
In reality you can boost your test scores through through education and conditioning, average IQ is going up because over time more people are getting the maximum boost. Biologically people are getting dumber not smarter but the effect of that is slower to show up on the averages.
Most redditors are 100 IQ plebs with a +20 conditioned boost and a desire to conform which creates the stereotype of the big boy. A 120 IQ uneducated tribesman or whatever has a brain capable of more than the 120 IQ redditor. This is not meant as an excuse for niggers or whatever but it's true the race gap isn't as huge as it looks on the surface.

>> No.25564337

>>25564144
I kek'd

>> No.25564347

>>25563229
5'11", 6'1", 5'9" and 5'10"

>> No.25564362

>>25563747
seething midwit

>> No.25564489

>>25563438
All you're saying is they don't educate themselves.

>> No.25564560

>5'11"
>129 IQ

Why is God so mean to me?

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>>25564273
Living the dream, anon. Congrats.
I'm still in 6-digit hell.

>> No.25564573

>>25563747
I’m 140+ and I listen to everyone, even brainlets. Man-as-animal is the worlds best pattern recognizer, and the dumb (90-75) are closer to that instinct, or rather they never “learn” to ignore it.

The ironic part is that midwits brag about only using “vetted sources”, but those sources often rely on things like golden ratio based prediction models, which is, UNIRONICALLY WHAT BRAINLETS USE EVERY DAY WITHOUT KNOWING

>> No.25564589

>>25563229
Every other time I do the test I am a 130+ and every other, I'm a "Big Boy". Who am I?

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25564679

>>25563747
Go back.

>> No.25564691

>>25564560
Are you literally me? Except I am 184 cm (6'0)

>> No.25564723

>>25564560
You are literally better off than 90% of the population with those two stats alone, have some perspective anon

>> No.25564726

>>25564589
which test are you doing?
t. Scored 130 and 121 on mensa norway

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fav

>> No.25564782

>>25563747
Thats 120-130 iq'ers you're thinking of here buddy. Smallbrainers (136 IQ poaster here).

>> No.25564853

>>25563747
This is unironically true. Being too smart makes you try to break the system instead of gaming it. Break all the rules and lose. My oneitis won beauty pageants and was in the National gifted programme, and is now in MENSA. She started playing forex at 16 and lost 10k because she thought she knew better. Then said Uni (full ride scholarship) was a meme and she could do better- went into oil trading and helped set up a new outpost but couldn’t stand the hours. Then married someone to be part of something bigger and became a single mom. Then decided to frontrun the trend by selling girl trinkets/onlyfans equivalent to simps. Then started her own “businesses”: an online store on a marketplace website selling skincare that she bulk buys, and a room she monthly rents and then rents out buy the hour for people to yoga. Her current partner opened a cleaning company that hasn’t broken even. Because “entrepreneurship” is her life now lmao.
She has a chip on her shoulder for me being an attorney/ legal counsel, and for investing in crypto or otherwise, joining normie pall mall clubs.
Unironically, being too smart makes you think you can break the wheel of society then it fucks you over because the nail that stands out gets hammered down. If she was just a bit less smart, she’d be calm enough to play by the rules AND win. Instead of being a single mom living with a cleaning company owner in public housing at 27.

>> No.25564882

>>25564589
You’re probably getting “big boy” scores on the watered down “””””””modern”””””” IQ tests that rely entirely on increasingly complex pattern recognition, designed to increase the stores of mud people and bugmen and autists. TRUE IQ tests measure a wider variety of metrics to form an accurate aggregate scale of intelligence.

>> No.25565009

low iqs bought xrp, did high iqs also buy xrp?
If they did they both got reckt.
Get reckt geniuses and retards.

>> No.25565088

>>25565009
I longed XRP because retards kept pumping it. The SEC can eat my poopoo

>> No.25565276

>>25563229
I thought I was a brainlet, But my anxiety and child traumas are slowly resolving, Its like I missed parts of my cognitive ability that are now coming back

>> No.25565337

>>25565276
>But my anxiety and child traumas are slowly resolving, Its like I missed parts of my cognitive ability that are now coming back
Based, good for you anon. What changed in your life that allowed this to happen

>> No.25565434

>>25564853
It’s not this convoluted. No amount of IQ will help you if you have trauma or a predisposition for neuroticism - which likelihood actually goes up with IQ, along with other mental illness.

>> No.25565600

>>25563229
The eternal midwit as explained by Edward Dutton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byb3ffrBYgU

They are slimy, disingenuous creatures, and in the preindustrial era, they wouldn't be doctors and professionals, they would be tradesmen, since properly bright people were common enough to hold the jobs they've inherited in our generally dumber world.

>> No.25565634

>>25565337
My faith in Christ, Its wonderful I have gone through to life with only 30% of my potential and I always knew I wasn't myself fully, now most of my fears are gone and can think clearly and more rational

power level 130+ IQ LETS GOO!

>> No.25565700

>>25563747
>don't listen to anyone
We listen to the smartest person available and that is usually ourselves.

You will never be a smart person.

>> No.25565727

>>25565600
?

A lot of professionals are midwits and just have good social skills

t. professional

>> No.25565757

>>25564560
>>5'11"
>>129 IQ
>Why is God so mean to me?
If you would re-roll these stats, you're a faggot

>> No.25565773

>>25563229
risk tolerance

>> No.25565802
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>>25563438
This desu. The way the world works is truly absurd chaos.

There is a reason why humans are so social. There is a great amount of collective intelligence among people. The wisdom of crowds, so to speak.

Those who believe themselves superior intellectually to others are the most likely to shoot themselves in the foot. It is true that individually people are quite dumb. But it is also true that the whole is always much greater than the sum of its parts.

Sub <100IQ people make good decisions because they tend to be the most social, and are most protected by immersing themselves in the wisdom of crowds. 130IQ+ because they have the intelligence to just begin grasp how truly insane the world truly is.

>> No.25565857

>>25564853
She's a woman who wants to be special and hates going to a job. Nothing else to it.

>> No.25565905

>>25565009
few people under 100 IQ have ever even heard of XRP.

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>>25563229

>> No.25565992

pure instinct traders are very good at gauging sentiment. high levels traders know a lot and probably lost a lot at some point.

I liken it too shooting a bow. Some shoot with a range finder and technical markers, some people shoot purely on instinct. sort of like an english long bowman and a Mongolian. mogalian never really aims. the middle is a retard trying to aim a long bow on horseback.

tl:dr, You can hit a target with a highly calibrated rifle but you can also hit a target by throwing a rock. middle person is a scope on a rock

>> No.25566039

Because people with average IQ suffer from the Dunning-Kruger effect. They think they are geniuses and have it all figured out.

>> No.25566158

>>25565802
That's why I invested in link when i first came in contact with crypto I figured biz autists where right about btc and eth they would be right about link

>> No.25566171

>>25565634
how have Christ helped you anon?
genuinelly curious

>> No.25566674

>>25566171
I have these spikes of internal fear from my past trauma's in my gut and get easily overwhelmed by my feelings which triggerd my fight or flight response, There is a voice or some kinda spirit telling everything is okay, And through my occasional bible studies these panic moments were lighter to bear, Im not fully there yet but its like he's helping through the proces
Romans 8:16
The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.

>> No.25566712

Funny how the entirety of /biz/ likes to think they have 140+ IQ
Top kek. The vast majority of you are average like most other people. You're not special, retards.

>> No.25566756

>>25563888
checked

>> No.25566786
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>>25566712
I have had my IQ tested by a professional. It is 183.

>> No.25567035

>>25565600
28:00 onward was scary realization. Certainly explains a lot kek

>> No.25567217

>>25566786
yeah you had it tested as a child. IQ is a relative stat and it changes over time though

>> No.25567263

>>25567217
I had it tested when I was 23.

>> No.25567326

>>25567263
oh ok. I thought you were the anon from the other day bragging about a high IQ as a 10 year old

>> No.25567536

>>25565802
this guy fucks

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>>25567326
No, I would agree with you that most people here are pretty unintelligent. It's a lot of jeets with inferiority complexes.

>> No.25567902

>>25563229
I have a 137 iq and I make retarded financial decisions outside of just saving money.

>> No.25568025

>>25563229
Everyone thinks they are the 130+

>> No.25568323

>>25567765
What do you think of Jews?

>> No.25568366

>>25565600
this guy is unironically an imbecile

>> No.25568415

>+130 IQ

>ADHD

I fucking hate myself

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>>25568323
Jews are inbred to the point that they're all retards and geniuses. I respect the way atheist jews do anything to reach their objectives, but I can't say I admire them.

>> No.25568494

>>25568415
mood

>> No.25568593

>>25568494
they basically cancel each other out I fucking hate it I hyper focus on useless shit instead of fucking taking 2 hours to fucking study shit. I hate it

>> No.25568617

>>25568366
Spotted the midwit.

>> No.25568662

>>25568025
Is it really that hard to figure out even without the test? I just assumed I was highly intelligent in a raw form simply because I can pick up and understand literally any subject I am intrested in very quickly. From grade school to my bachelors I would just read the book assigned, never show up to class, and pass with straight As. I had trouble understanding how people couldn't just... get it. All the information is right there in front of you. The iq test I took later just confirmed this
Another somewhat cringe way I figured it out was coming to conclusions in many subjects independently as an amateur that eventually I would learn was said or created by a great mind already.

>> No.25568668

am supposedly 140iq but im still retarded and probably ngmi

>> No.25568679

>>25564853
Good blog post anon. Made me miss my ex. But the character traits that caused your roastie dream to make the decisions that took her on this life past are much more nuanced than le ebin shape pattern recognition IQ score.

>> No.25568710

>>25568617
>NO YOU
ok bud, keep watching your imbecile youtubers. Genius tier grasp on the world

>> No.25568722

>>25568679
Life path not life past FUCK.

>> No.25568740

>>25568593
same, i'm really good with quick ideas / hacks but anything that requires me to read through documentation or something is extremely exhausting

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>>25563747

cynicism is easy. mimicry is easy.

optimistic contrarians are the rarest breed. and the richest.

stay poor faggot.

>> No.25568874

>>25568740
The single time I actually sat down and completed a personal project over a long period of time is now one of the most downloaded projects in my niche, with like 700,000+ downloads, that hasn't been updated in 4 years. I still get emails about it and it crushes me inside reading them. If I was retarded and did nothing I wouldn't care that much but its the knowledge of potential that kills me

>> No.25569057

>>25568490
Based counter-semite.

>> No.25569145

Have an idea but not the confidence to execute it solo. Have an idea but too fearful of the impact of others in order to test and actualise it as a group. Smart enough to talk yourself into believing you never really wanted it or you are too good for it anyway. Babied through situations for not really standing out, smart enough to blend in and fly under the radar, being told you are smart but neither learning to work hard to develop ability in something or having the exceptional raw ability to make study unnecessary.

People mould themselves to their surroundings. Being 110-120 IQ is good to coast on the fringes of normality. Most people just want to feel like they are doing a little better than those around them. You aren't going to make it in 130+ fields because you aren't smart enough as even the 130+'s are competing in fields with extremely talented people.

I like dumb people because I need them to do all the repetitive donkey work which I don't want to have to do. I like extremely smart people because they have abilities which I lack and can assist me in specialised areas. I don't care about 120 IQ individuals because they are just going to get on my back about how they are bored in sales administration and then I've got to manage all their Z grade machiavellian ambitions.

>> No.25569178

>>25568874
What niche?

>> No.25569190

>>25568415
Fucking this
Have you ever tried Adderall/stims

>> No.25569214

>>25568710
I would sincerely like to hear criticisms of his stuff that aren't midwit tier demands of absolute proof or social shaming like calling him a youtuber.

>> No.25569268

>>25569178
Algorithms for architectural planning and some 3d modeling mapping unorganized of urban growth

>> No.25569271

>>25565802
Incorrect
The people who make big bucks are usually contrarians and ignore the opinions of the masses

Bubbles usally pop after becoming mainstream

>> No.25569370

>>25566674
sounds like schizophrenia, seek psychiatric care

>> No.25569422

>>25564273
That's not a healthy live rhythm
Just turn off the internet at 10pm
The total time you dedicate to your intersts won't change much that way, except that you'll probably get more and better sleep

>> No.25569453

>>25568415
i'm a ADHD retard too
it sucks when i can learn complex things in lno time but it only works when i'm interested in said thing

>> No.25569491

>>25569370
That's not schizophrenia
Spirituality is real

>> No.25569535

>>25564853
she right you're an idiot. Enjoy wage cucking for some jew and not making you're own hrs

>> No.25569557

>>25569453
Adhd doesn't exist
Not being interested in things you find boring is not abnormal

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>>25569271
>Incorrect
>The people who make big bucks are usually >contrarians and ignore the opinions of the masses
>Bubbles usally pop after becoming mainstream

Do you see it?

>> No.25569608

>>25569214
I only needed to watch 5 min. Obsession with racialist politics, obvious full immersion in, ironically, wishy washy elevated "ideas" that "engagers" of a particular period of time fully center on because they perceive a dominance within this trendy idea that currently holds "sacred" status to be a way to signal themselves as intelligent, no actual genuine interest in anything beyond that, no actual new insights in anything, SCIENCE BRO, obvious disdain for the humanities. You can find hordes of these types in every place that attracts the discontent, angry, and un passionate. Imbecile

>> No.25569619

>>25563229
nothing on 4chan or the internet as a whole has ever been so eternally, comprehensively true as that jpg

>> No.25569648

>>25569491
>>25569557
>>25569271
Take your medications, you are experiencing delusions and probably are psychotic. You're going to hurt yourself or others.

>> No.25569670

>>25565600
>midwit nepotism

kek

>> No.25569674

>>25568490
This is a reasonable take. I respect the elite Jew's ability to commit to a goal and see it through. Certainly other groups could learn a thing or two from them, but it's a shame they resent and actively work against non-Jews to such a horrific degree.
Perhaps that ruthlessness is the secret to success...

>> No.25569683

>>25569535
She sounds very smart
She probably prefers being a mom to working 9-5

>> No.25569781

>>25569648
Are you for real or trolling?

>> No.25569785

>>25569608
also
>intelligence is solving complex problems
lmao. He's too stupid to actually examine the constraints and fundamentals that make up his reality that he believes to be as clear as nature and as only a pure expression of himself. He should drop the pretension against the humanities and actually read some history and philosophy to stop making a fool of himself. Every scientist he wants to suck the dick of would laugh at him

>> No.25569799

>>25569674
Well they're working with the chinks right now, so I'd say that the reason they don't work with non-jews in general is because they see them as being generally less capable and willing to do what is necessary. Chinks are as ruthless but usually have less imagination.

>> No.25569849

>>25569608
So you dismissed the content because of surface appearance and negative emotional associations with how he engages with his audience. That's not applying your supposed gifts very well. Everything you posted so far is almost like a parody of the reddit midwit. You think you "see through it all" but you don't see shit but what's been spoonfed to you.

>> No.25569852

>>25569683
yeah she does.

i rather be struggle and staying sharp while spending my time(meaning my waking hrs alive) doing what i want rather then driving 2rhs in a used bmw every day to work for goldstein

>> No.25569973

>>25563747
everyone that angrily replied to you is larping as a 130+. if you're 130+ IQ then you wouldn't be on /biz/

>> No.25570027

>>25568662
What did you score on your iq test?

>> No.25570058

>>25564301
You're an idiot. Read about IQ.

>>25563747
I actually agree with this. 115-120 is the optimal. 130+ IQ requires some other traits to make up for the alienation, like Vitalik tier programming skills and autism.

>> No.25570200

>>25569849
>because of surface appearance and negative emotional associations with how he engages with his audience
? Thats what you got from my post? You clearly aren't understanding what I am saying. I don't give a fuck about him being "negative". You should take his advice in the video detailing intelligent people systematizing everything, and what was said in this thread about relying on instinctual feelings after a certain threshold of intelligence.
I know his type, he very quickly expresses everything associated with it, and by the topic of the video, I am sure enough of this very quickly obtained opinion to disregard it after 5 min. What, you want me to post a source?
>You think you "see through it all" but you don't see shit but what's been spoonfed to you.
ahhhh yesss It truly is so deep friend. He unexposed to the world can you be if you think this guy is saying absolutely anything a normal person hasn't already encountered a thousand times before.

>> No.25570301

>>25563438
midwits are also the most vulnernable to social engineering and propaganda. it's the midwits who follow network television, read the NYT, scientific american, takes advice from "professionals financial advisors", believe in the system, etc.

>> No.25570343

>>25570058
Higher IQ means higher alienation. This guy gets it. Also, I believe the optimal was 125-130 IQ because it gives on the ability to absorb complex and large amount of information quicker, and put pieces together while still being able to not be too alien to normies.

Once one passes 135+ you get the sterotypical 'autism' vibes and get ostracized.

>> No.25570399

>>25568366
>>25568617
clever joke

>> No.25570428

>>25569557
>Adhd doesn't exist
I wish

>> No.25570492

>>25569785
>pretension against the humanities
It's not pretentiousness to criticize people who pretend to be pursuing truth but model reality on ideological grounds instead of engaging with the data.
>>25570058
>Read about IQ.
I know what you believe about IQ, you believe the model I described when I said reddit says the Flynn effect means IQ is constantly increasing. I suggested an alternative model that fits more data than yours but instead of engaging with the alternative your response is the exact expected midwit response: "go accept without question the most popular model".
>>25570200
I didn't say he's deep I said you think you see through him, that's what you're still claiming but you don't see through shit. You're an easily conditioned follower who either can't or refuses to think for himself.

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>>25570058
>>25570343
This is cope. Having a high IQ doesn't mean you have to be some kind of autist savant. I'm extremely likeable, I just pretend to be whatever I decide the people I'm talking to want.

>> No.25570513

>implying most low iq individuals make good financial decisions or are rich

>> No.25570737

>>25565802
this is a midwit reply

the 100-120 iq faggot is way more conformist than the 90 iq person

>> No.25570751

>>25570492
>pursuing truth but model reality on ideological grounds instead of engaging with the data
you have no knowledge in any of the humanities, holy shit stop talking you retard. Your only exposure to it is in its relevance your culture war trash posted on shit websites like this. Hilarious that you replied to the post saying
>examine the constraints and fundamentals that make up his reality that he believes to be as clear as nature and as only a pure expression of himself
While making yourself an example of this pitfall
You don't need to have an opinion

>> No.25570846

>>25566786
a high IQ does not mean that you are smart, let that sink in, kek

>> No.25570892

>>25564273
did pic related for 2 years, fought hard to get out. life is better now because i was a neet but won't life it was /comfy/ af

>> No.25570959

>>25570498
>This is cope. Having a high IQ doesn't mean you have to be some kind of autist savant.

Well, not all the time, but there is a correlation.

>> No.25570970

>>25563229
>starts rambling on about stereotypes about autism
welp. this guy might be intelligent but he clearly believes in a lot of bullshit

>> No.25571034

>>25563747
kek peak midwit. if you can back up your arrogance with results it doesnt matter how you act.

>> No.25571080

>>25570498
>I just pretend to be whatever I decide the people I'm talking to want.
That's probably PD speaking, not IQ.

>This is cope
Partly speaking from my own experience.

>> No.25571105

>>25570751
>you have no knowledge in any of the humanities
Yet you can't engage with anything I or Dutton say. All you have is these empty insults and appeals to the authority of a group who abandoned the scientific method long ago.
>examine the constraints and fundamentals that make up his reality that he believes to be as clear as nature and as only a pure expression of himself
no u

>> No.25571123

>>25570498
damn i know this feel too well. gets kind of depressing when nobody knows what you actually think, but its better that others are happy.

>> No.25571208

>>25567217
154 here - tested at 26

>> No.25571212
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>> No.25571237

>>25570492
Bitch I've read more on IQ than you. "Data". Numbers, graphs, etc. It's part of my field.

Education has a minimal affect on IQ.

>> No.25571242

>>25568366
agree

>> No.25571388

>>25569145
it's knowledge of the opportunity cost that can slowdown a smart person from acting. there's nothing wrong with this - it is true that many things we could do are not worth doing. this because more obvious the older and wiser you get.

>> No.25571474

>>25569557
correct

>> No.25571621

>>25569785
midwit spotted

>> No.25571655

>>25563438
This 100%. This explains the normie conundrum quite well

>> No.25571673

>>25571237
>Education has a minimal affect on IQ.
It depends on how you define it. The difference between someone growing up watching western TV and someone educated is probably very small.
The measured difference between a feral child and an educated twin would be very large. On average heritability is the largest factor partly because things like interests which contribute to developing a high IQ over your life (yes, almost entirely just your childhood) are also inherited.

>> No.25571742

>>25569799
jews aren't particularly smart, although many of them cluster as high midwit so they appear as such to normies. what jews have is a neurotic verbal intelligence combined with outlier morals. they succeed because they will do things the rest of the society finds morally reprehensible. if you're a Christian and lie and scam, people shun you. If you're a jew, your jew community gets your back.

Study all jewish success in Christian nations and you'll find the same pattern - it's entirely exploitation of our morality that allows them to succeed.

>> No.25571830

>>25570498
based.

being high iq is lonely, by nature, but otherwise makes life a lot easier. when i was younger I used to be mad at how schools/society did so much to help the low end and never anything to support the smart kids. The idea is that the smart kids will figure it out on their own, and find a way, while the dumb kids won't. The sad thing is they're right.

>> No.25571882

>>25571673
>On average heritability is the largest factor partly because things like interests which contribute to
How does that make sense? You realize most of heritability studies involve monozygotic twins raised apart?

I don't really understand the point you're trying to make. It's not education, it's an interest in all things "education"?

>> No.25571921

>>25571673
>it depends on how you define it
those words are defined and the assertion is true. Education does not have any great impact on IQ - this is well established. go wipe your ass with your degree.

>> No.25571980

>>25563229
Mid IQ people tend to be your typical university student who ends up being lawyer/doctor etc. In other words they have been constantly reassured by society that THEY are the smart ones because they fall in line, making them way too confident in there abilities.
Low IQ and high IQ people tend to be drop outs, NEETS etc. Usually having no problem going against the grain which usually turns out to be the most profitable ways of doing things as they are the first to do it and the midwits follow later.
The meme gives way too much credit to low IQ people though. Most of them spend all their money on alcohol and other dumb shit.

>> No.25572024

>>25571830
>The idea is that the smart kids will figure it out on their own, and find a way, while the dumb kids won't
No that is not the fucking idea. The idea behind educational system is that everyone's a fucking blank slate and dumb people are dumb because we didn't shovel enough money into useless bloated overhead. It's a fucking con pulled off by both politicians and useless teachers. High IQ people would be ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE better off if we actually invested into their education. But that's "elitism", that's the admission of inherent biological capabilities, it's an admission of "some people deserve the money more than others based on their merit". We can't have none of that. Thus you end up with high IQ people suffering through school and most probably a huge chunk of their lives simply because we've pretended they don't exist. Think that may have something to do with higher drug usage, higher incidence of depression, mental disorders, etc. amongst high IQ people?

Even uni has been dumbed down, making it just as useless as high school for high IQ people.

>> No.25572149

>>25567217
Testing it as a child is the only way to have an authentic result.

>> No.25572182

>>25571830
>The idea is that the smart kids will figure it out on their own, and find a way, while the dumb kids won't. The sad thing is they're right.
You know I have to stress this point again. You're so hugely wrong on this. Just imagine for a second if for the TWELVE (12!!!!!) YEARS you had an actual teacher that instead of torturing you, stimulated your imagination. That instead of daydreaming and looking out the window, you actually *wanted* to participate. TWELVE fucking years, just think of all the knowledge you could've gotten if we simply had a separate treatment for the promising. You think you got off easy? You probably don't even acknowledge the cost you've been burdened with, all because we've simply fallen for the con to siphon money into unproductive horrible people in a worldwide scale.

>> No.25572236

>>25571980
it's not a meme about financial success. i think the meme is illustrating the facts that most midwits are absolutely insufferable to socialize with

>> No.25572285

Taleb already demonstrated that IQ, like all other """results""" from the fraudulent field of psychology, is useless as a metric. It's totally unpredictive above 100 and has too much inherent variability within the same person to be useful as a metric in the first place. He did the math on it, too, which apparently no other psychologist every did because they don't even understand the statistical tools they're using in the first place.

Much more important than raw intelligence is wisdom. Even more important than that is personal connections. And even more important than that is sheer luck. Hence why /biz/ is the masterrace, because we're the lucky, literally God's Chosen, who get to be first on the crypto rocket to the moon. All we have to do is step on board.

>> No.25572299

>>25569674
being a manipulative psychopath works until it doesn't. they've been thrown out of 109 countries, over 300 times.

>> No.25572314

>>25571882
>>25571921
>education
I originally used the phrase "conditioning and education". Originally schooling served the purpose of conditioning everyone to think in terms useful for the real world and IQ tests but now that's accomplished by media. The more people are conditioned the higher measured IQ becomes.
The point is best stated with the feral child example. Even though heritability is normally the largest factor it's still a thing that's developed over your life, not a thing you're born with.
>twins raised a part
Everyone studied by modern medicine also has access to modern mind conditioning. Feral children have abnormally low measured IQs so you don't need to raise a bunch of kids with wolves to know the results of a twin study.

>> No.25572332

>>25571882
nurture is not education. a feral kid has not developed properly because humans are primates - that's not an accurate way to measure. IQ is almost entirely heritable, easily above 80% and that likely increases as we age. In practice, intellectual capacity is a genetic trait. Education imparts information and experience imparts wisdom - both are critical for making use of a high intellectual capacity but are not going to impact that capacity itself in any significant way.

Think of IQ as a measure of potential that cannot be altered.

>> No.25572404

>>25571980
>The meme gives way too much credit to low IQ people though
I don't think so. It doesn't imply they're equal to the 130 set, it implies they're bros. This has been my experience in life. The reason smart people like dumb people is they aren't trying to compete with them all of the time, appreciate and value what the high IQ person has to offer, and are generally more connected to nature and instinct, something high IQ people who are successful at life aspire toward.

>> No.25572437

>>25570970
ok i watched the rest. pretty good with a lot of interesting insights. i think he has a naive view of science though. it has always been controlled by money and politics, scientific research essentially being used as a form of propaganda is nothing nothing new, it's as old as science itself. also it's not just social sciences that don't strictly follow the scientific method, it's just about every single science. everything other than math, classical physics, and basic chemistry is corrupted with money, politics, ideology, prestige etc.

>> No.25572492

>>25572182
keep telling yourself that other people are responsible for your failure. it's true that you deserved more help in life - my point is that for society at large it's perfectly rational for them to decide the way they do. were society at large managed by smart people they'd focus on smart people because they'd understand that smart people can do 100x for society what anyone else can. our failure to cultivate and maximize our geniuses maps nicely to our decline. that said, on an individual basis it's correct to provide extra help to those who won't succeed without it.

Smart people can find a way out of tough situations and solve problems that the 85 IQ person has no prayer of doing on their own. Simple fact of life.

>> No.25572533

>>25572285
Taleb is wildly wrong in his IQ polemic and revealed himself a midwit in the process. His 'math' on it is shit, which you would know if you were actually smart. There are critiques out there, and they romp. Try reading one.

>> No.25572553

>>25565434
this

>> No.25572562

>>25563229
emotion

>> No.25572582

>>25572404
i don't mind people "competing" with me but midwits are more likely to be obsessed with whatever the latest propaganda is telling them to be obsessed about, whereas the midwith is as you said a much more instinctual being and thus less affected by propaganda. the stupid person is unironically more original in his thinking, and is also much more genuine in his human emotions (be they positive or negative)

>> No.25572686

>>25565434
trauma and mental health and poverty and such are things that occupy a large amount of capacity. if you have a high IQ but have to utilize 40% of it just to deal with those issues, you are still high IQ just distracted. That's why solving those problems should be your top priority - you have a high IQ, go do it. Once you get rid of those things you'll free up enormous capacity and begin to really excel in ways others cannot.

>> No.25572699

>>25572492
More education *does not* help dumb people. US has had countless failed programs that ended up being money sinkholes. They literally had a program where they contacted low iq parents of a baby and literally spoonfed them all the required information of raising a child. Financed their food, schooling. Literally brought them best food. And it did fuckall in increasing their childrens success in any measurable way. They've tried absolutely everything because they're just that hellbent on trying to prove us being a blank slate. It has never worked.

My point isn't that lets just throw sub 90 iq people in the ditch and watch them die. My point was that after a certain point more resources does not give back better outcomes. Diminishing returns. We've not only reached that point but surpassed it a long time ago. Those wasted resources would do wonders on human general wellbeing if they were used more productively or alternatively simply never taxed to begin with.

>> No.25572742

>>25572582
You're totally right about the stupid person being more original.

Regarding midwits - try being obviously smarter than them without even trying. It's like being a 6'5, 240lb dude. Every asshole at the bar wants to fight you to prove he's tough.

>> No.25572809

>>25572492
this is such a midwit take. first off "you are responsible for your failure" is the typical retarded midwit way of thinking that's based on
capitalist dogma and survivorship bias, and really, lack of empathy.

you're right though that dumb kids shouldnt be helped at the expense of smart kids, but really such kind of dualistic thinking is stupid reductionism for the most part.

the 85 iq person is probably tougher and more resilient than the 110 iq person on average.

>> No.25572834

Another result of this is in the gym

Brainlets do arms every day with no set routine or diet but get big just by doing the work

140+ have perfect diet and routine and get big

Midwits mock the Brainlets for training wrong, mock the 140+ for autism, and make no gains jumping between the latest "functional" trends, forever coping

>> No.25572855

>>25572699
As a midwit you fail to appreciate that society requires many things to function and a high IQ is not the key factor in many of them. We need to ensure the 95 IQ set is able to function because they have skills and abilities and roles that are necessary.

Never forget that everyone, EVERYONE, is good at something. The value of that something depends upon the context. Midwits are insufferable in large part because they overvalue intellectual ability in order to frame themselves as the most valuable. High IQ people hate, HATE this attitude because they are smart enough to know that it's a double-edged sword and to appreciate what IQ does and what it does not do.

>> No.25572866

>>25572533
I have read the critiques: they're incorrect and reveal that the authors don't understand math or how correlation works. Taleb is on point with his critique. The sad thing is he posted exactly the dataset and math he used, and nobody ever bothered to try to find a flaw in it. Frankly he should have formatted his article as a journal article and gotten it published in a psychology journal, except that getting published in a psychology journal would absolutely destroy his reputation.

>> No.25572908

>>25572809
you struggle at reading comprehension and are having a discussion with a creation of your own mind.

>> No.25572941 [DELETED] 

IQ is only truly useful if you're not neurotic and haven't been exposed to a heavy amount of trauma during your life. High IQ neurotics are worse off than low IQ neurotics because the cognitive distortions are much elaborate and convincing. Higher IQ people are also generally more sensitive and get traumatized more easily and deeply because of it. Because of this some high IQ people are dumber than a midwit or retard could ever be. That's the exception and not the rule, though. But i think that's another reason for the alliance between <100 and >130, both end up alienated from the norm more easily and naturally in many different ways.

>> No.25572951

>>25572855
>Never forget that everyone, EVERYONE, is good at something.
Holy shit, I didn't realize you were a complete retard. Don't respond to any of my posts, I'm bailing on this thread.

>> No.25572985

>>25572855
Yeah okay lets put 130iq and 90iq kids in the same room for 12 years, *forcibily*. Lets then tax everyone and spend that money in ways that doesn't give a single gram of benefit. Oh and lets convince those that lose from it that it's actually for their own benefit. You've convinced me.

>> No.25572994

>>25572699
>Literally brought them best food
mainstream dietary advice is garbage, and i would say that maybe it's even intentionally set up to make you as compliant as possible

>> No.25573011

>>25572834
Good analogy. A key difference between high IQ and midwit is that high IQ understands how things works, systems, and larger themes. This enables them to avoid the trends that midwits get caught up in, because midwits have to depend on expert/authority to tell them what is best. High IQ people consider the information and decide for themselves. Similarly, the low IQ set just does whatever works and would never waste time on a trend if it's not producing results.

>> No.25573053

apple and tesla are some of the best examples of this meme. tesla is an overvalued piece of shit that will get destroyed outside of the USA, but because americans are fucking retards they ape into these corporate cults thats why 80% of apple products are sold in the us.

for years i ignored my friend when he said fundamentals dont matter as much as i think. i take him much more seriously now after seeing how many fucking redditards got rich off of both apple and tesla

>> No.25573060

>>25572866
kek

kill your heroes, faggot.

>> No.25573063

>>25569271
midwit opinion

>> No.25573071

>>25572994
If anything, it's set up on misunderstanding our bodily needs, yeah. But I guarantee you those kids in that program ate better than any other ghetto niglet.

>> No.25573097

>>25572908
yeah maybe, i just read your post without context.

>> No.25573099

>>25564573
I think it was a Tokugawa quote on the loading screen for shogun 2 that said you should accept all bits of information from even the dimmest of sources, because if you don't accept it graciously they might not come to you when they do actually have something of value to tell you

>> No.25573148

140+ IQsters buy ARPA.

>> No.25573171

>>25572985
The distinction between what is rational for society and what is good for the individual is apparently lost on you. Answer this simple question:

You have two students, one who is stupid and cannot succeed independently. The other is smart and can. You can only help one student - which one do you help?

This the choice being made. I did not benefit from it personally but over time came to appreciate that despite the lack of help and the handicapping that resulted I was still able to easily surpass all of those dumb kids who got favors and assistance and guidance. It's a tough pill to swallow but they're right that the smart kids will figure it out. The ones who don't have problems that aren't IQ related.

>> No.25573187

>>25572985
the whole school system is set up to turn people into compliant workers. it's based on the preussian system that they developed to make peasants into industry workers and soldiers. mixing smart and unsmart people into the same group is one of the least of it's problem. but yes it is somewhat of a problem.

>> No.25573234

>>25572994
correct and heterosexual

>>25573053
Apple makes excellent products and their valuation is justified. Tesla is a globohomo scam to stash money.

>> No.25573265

>>25573171
Eat shit. Stop deluding yourself, you're a 110 at best. You've completely misunderstood my posts and I don't feel like wasting time going over myself.

>> No.25573277

>>25573071
coincidence theorism is another mark of the midwit.

the 90 iq tard and the 150 iq genius are both conspiracists, although the smart person might be unlikely to use that word because of its stigma and having cognitive biases around that word and a misunderstanding of what it actually means

>> No.25573305

>>25573099
based and wisdom-pilled.

The amount of data a high IQ person can keep track of it utilize in decision-making is exponentially greater than that of lower IQ people. When I explain how I think about things to dumber people they look at me stunned.

>> No.25573370

>>25573187
as a Redditor you should be aware that many of us read that Gatto basic bitch take twenty years ago when it came out.

the key to understanding the 20th century American public education system (before globohomo shit down its neck) is to understand that it's not a purely academic program but rather seeks to socialize people. American schools were extremely good until about 20 years ago.

>> No.25573393

>>25573277
Another mouthbreather. Pray tell, which part of my post, specifically telling a conspiratard that it's not a conspiracy, did seem conspiratorial for you?

>> No.25573443

>>25573265
Just because I think you're wrong does not make me stupid. It's clear that I understand the concepts you are proposing and am capable of rebutting them in a logical way. If you were as smart as you think you are you'd be able to discern my relative IQ through that alone.

That said, it doesn't matter how smart I am - you're still wrong. If it makes you feel better to be schooled by a brainlet, have at it.

>> No.25573490

>>25573443
>If you were as smart as you think you are you'd be able to discern my relative IQ through that alone.
I did. 110, take it or leave it.

>> No.25573538

>>25573490
anon, you're the midwit here. just shut the fuck up already.

>> No.25573555

>>25573370
yes, it seeks to socialize people into the dominating authoritarian conformist culture

people were more independent and creative thinkers when they were homeschooled, despite the religious dogmas.

>> No.25573558

>>25572285
>Not one Nobel Prize winner in science had ever had an IQ of less than 120.

>> No.25573603

>>25573393
read my post again lol, you're letting your butthurt get to you

>> No.25573671

>>25563229
more than 110 less than 130 here. i'm so stupid i can't even say ~120 before foing off on a tangent. i cam confirm life as a fucking midwit is eternal purgatory where you're too fucking stupid to matter and too smart to fit in with the rest of the plebs.

i fucking hate your pic related op, it's so fuxking true it pisses me the fuck off

>> No.25573690

>>25573555
>people were more independent and creative thinkers when they were homeschooled
absolutely, but 20% of the population was also entirely illiterate. 20th century education was in large part about establishing a common cultural experience. Most of the critiques are not directly caused by the educational system, even if they exist.

I went to American public schools - you don't have to tell me anything about their flaws, but can you tell me anything good about them?

>> No.25573720

>>25573603
Didn't notice it was your post I replied to.

You should read Nutrition and Physical Degeneration if you think modern nutrition is conspiracy. It's simply a cheap way of funneling calories into the mouths of the laboring masses.

People produce because it's cheap and people buy because it's cheap.

>> No.25573725

>>25572285
Taleb's critiques of IQ are mostly insanely retarded and demonstrate that he made them in response to (and as a result of) testing in the middle range

>> No.25573748

>>25573671
The key to your satisfaction in life is to develop your skills and abilities in non-academic/intellectual activities. Midwits are usually ego-dependent on being "smart" and that cripples their identity.

>> No.25573763

>ITT people pretending to be high iq but actually are barely at 120 calling each other midwits in order to feel good about themselves and get a dopamine hit

>> No.25573774

>>25572285
taleb literally only dismisses IQ to cope because the results show Arabs have a low IQ. there is a huge body of evidence that shows physiological correlatoins with IQ. thickness of the corpus callosum corrlelates with fluid IQ. reaction time correlates with IQ. etc. taleb doesnt even address the physiological evidence, he just uses statistical sophistry to arrive at his conclusoin

>> No.25573842

>>25571742
Jews tend to be legitimately very smart

>> No.25573883

>>25569271
I think you misunderstand. I'm not saying be a conformist to make the big bucks. And you are correct that most people that make it do tend to lean contrarian. But there's nuance to it.

Smart people don't really seem to reject the current status quo in its entirety. They pick apart what works, and what doesn't. And then they come up with better opinions, better strategies, better ideas.

>> No.25573912

>>25573763
>and get a dopamine hit
exactly on the fucking head of the nail.

high IQ people don't often get a dopamine hit when they are reminded of their intelligence because most of the time it's reminding them of a way in which they are debilitated. why would I get a dopamine hit from the thing that most separates me from the people around me?

>> No.25573916

>>25573690
you could set up basic public schools to teach people reading writing and basic maths for example, i think thomas jefferson wanted to do something like that.

>was in large part about establishing a common cultural experience
i think that's a bad thing, mostly, and I don't think it was intended to strengthen traditional american values.

>I went to American public schools - you don't have to tell me anything about their flaws, but can you tell me anything good about them?
i havent been in the american education system. one good thing is what you mentioned in this very post, literacy. in general american education seems to put a relatively high focus on natural sciences which is a very good thing (although im sure there is a lot of dogma in those lessons as well)

>> No.25574024

>>25573720
the diet is cheap to produce, it's easy to centralize, it makes people weak and tired and compliant, and all the lies taught about biochemistry and hormones and what the body needs makes it easy to sell people even more filth through the pharmaceutical industry

>> No.25574057

>>25563229
because they are too risk averse

>> No.25574092

>>25573883
lol

>> No.25574128

>>25565802
just out of curiosity how big is your brain? good post

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>>25563229
iykyk

>> No.25574171

>>25573842
Yes, in a verbal way, but it's deceptive. I've known jews my entire life and lived in NYC for quite some time and have had good opportunity to evaluate them. What jews have is enthusiasm for mercurial things, a neurosis that drives them to take action, and a culture that rewards them for putting in the work. Their best quality is being interested in ideas. When you go deeper into matters of reason and logic, you will find that they hit the wall a lot more quickly than you might expect. They rarely admit it, or are aware of it, but it's there. Jews are the kings of midwit bullshitting.

I do think that ashkenazi jews cluster at a higher average verbal IQ than most groups, but also that there is a tighter curve with very few extreme outliers.

>> No.25574174

>>25573912
i think it has more to do with the midwit commoditizing his intelligence to a greater level, it's a greater part of his identity, on average

>> No.25574246

>>25574024
You're imagining ill intent where there's simply cold efficiency and occasional bumbling retardation at play. Read Kaczynskis manifesto to understand how a system can oppress people without there being any intent. It's just game theory and (non-biological) evolution.

>> No.25574262

>>25573916
American education was extremely well-rounded and produced much more independent people than in most other countries. The reason most analysis of our education system fails is that the people writing it have a very poor understanding of how life and education are everywhere else. It has many weaknesses, but you should wonder why all you hear is how bad it was and never what it was good at.

>> No.25574264

>>25574135
imagine wanting to take such a photo in front of alexander hamilton

>> No.25574286

>>25573099
>the loading screen for shogun 2
stopped reading there

>> No.25574314

>>25574174
>it's a greater part of his identity,
yes, specifically the ego part.

being smart is part of my identity by default, but it's not as important to my ego as my big dick.

>> No.25574341

>>25574246
i just don't think conspiracies are unlikely at all, it's bullshit

teds writings are pretty good and a lot of the systemic abuses he explains requires conspiracy

>> No.25574379

>>25574171
Wow. That sounds a bit like me and I'm a midwit goy.

You're definitely right that there are very few notable Jew artists or architects, most of them are lawyers, doctors and high verbal IQ professions

>> No.25574385

>>25574341
Ted is a great and needed critic of the left and their institutions. His knowledge of areas outside his direct life experience was more limited.

>> No.25574397

>>25574314
Incredibly based anon

>> No.25574453

>>25574171
>Jews are the kings of midwit bullshitting.
it's called pilpul, it's a central point of the religion to bullshit about 2 mutually exclusive concepts being correct at the same time. a big part of their religion is finding loopholes in the old testament, basically they're trying to con god and go against his commandments yet at the same time be in good standing with god because of some loophole they invented. the modern "western" legal system is seemingly based on their way of thinking as well

>> No.25574475

>>25574341
No it fucking doesn't retard. Stop trying to spice up your boring ass life by imaginging some epic poem of evil forces and enlightened heroes. You'll be surprised at how mundane the world really is. Really, just read up on how big companies or countries are lead and you'll come to understand and even appreciate how close "bumbling retard" comes to describe the ruling powers.

It simply takes too much coordination for any massive conspiracy. Have you ever tried to keep a secret amongst friends? Entropy, man.

>> No.25574544

>>25574262
>American education was extremely well-rounded and produced much more independent people than in most other countries
Well, most countries adopted the same kind of education systems at roughly the same time. So just because it's not as bad as in other countries doesn't mean it was an improvement over the older system

>> No.25574562

>>25563229
can confirm, I'm a literal retard and my entire strategy consists of letting the RSI tell me when to buy

>> No.25574591

>>25574314
hehe

>> No.25574600

>>25574379
jews are pretty fun for bantz. i have many jewish friends.

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>>25563229
<100 gang

>> No.25574718

>>25573748
funny thing, i'm a pro at non academic shit that i like, i am just in constant fuckup mode financially. i bought my first 9k link at 1800sats and still fucked it up. we're talking cursed levels of incompetence and i have a family to support.

>> No.25574724

>>25574453
The conditioning from legalism applies to logic in general. You get used to thinking in strict premises and conclusions.
High IQ specialists, people that actually train for IQ tests (yes they exist) have considerably smaller brain mass than average. The time they need to make the logical connections is minimized by pruning everything else.
High IQ successful physicists have large brains, the have the capability measured by IQ and a wast array of knowledge + tools to creatively apply that knowledge.

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what should i invest in with this iq?

>> No.25574762

>>25574718
put all your spare cash into BTC and sell it around Christmas. you're welcome.

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>>25565600

somewhat how i'd define race

>> No.25574782

>>25563229
I honestly question the validity of the IQ test and anyone brings up IQ I see as someone who likes to go home, cut a warm fart in brown paper bag and huff the hell out of it.

>> No.25574816

>>25574737
the best investment any man can make is in a good wife. i know we're short on those these days but that only makes it better when you pull it off.

>> No.25574855

>>25574737
what does your iq have to do with asking for advice?

>> No.25574864

>>25574782
IQ is probably the most validated thing in social science. It has been around for 100 years and is extremely predictive and reliable.

>> No.25574908

>>25574762
all my spare cash is long locked in rdn and my physical shop

>> No.25574970

>>25574475
>Stop trying to spice up your boring ass life by imaginging some epic poem of evil forces and enlightened heroes
lol that's not what i said

>You'll be surprised at how mundane the world really is. Really, just read up on how big companies or countries are lead
Yes, basically they hijack the regulatory bureaucracies of every single nationstate, which is conspiracy.

>"bumbling retard" comes to describe the ruling powers
This is a dogma they teach you to make you less likely to be non-compliant. And when things actually do go to shit and go public, the ruling class can just replace of the head of the snake and the niggercattle are satisfied, and then everything goes on exactly like before. That's basically the whole farce of representative democracy summed up in by the way.

>It simply takes too much coordination for any massive conspiracy
This is such a midwit reddit take. The manhattan project involved like a hundred thousand people and they managed to keep that under wraps. There are many huge conspiracy theories that later turned out to be conspiracy fact. The whole "it's too big to be kept secret" is another stupifying meme for the niggercattle. They managed to keep such things such as MKULTRA, COINTELPRO, MOCKINGBIRD secrets for decades. Most pharmaceutical drugs that end up being nightmares are known since before they go on market lol. The way the mainstream media constantly conspires and gaslights is evident to everyone with an observant mind.

>> No.25575097

>>25574718
your biggest competitor isn't the market, it's yourself and your own emotional volatility

>> No.25575109

>>25574737
become an architect

>> No.25575201

>>25574724
interseting points. however i wouldn't call pilpul legalism. it's somewhat related but at the same time it's this whole separate thing. in some ways it's even more like the opposite of legalism.

>> No.25575286

>>25574970
Wasn't it very few people who knew about the Manhattan project and the workers were taught their tasks in a way that wouldn't give away what was being done?

>> No.25575386

>>25572024
Agree with you on this. Fuck I hated many days in school. Worst for me was when a decent teacher build a few questions were you actually had think a bit into the test (quite easy ones tho) and retards (mostly women) would run to teacher after said test and complain how difficult it was and that we didn't prepare each question in class before

>> No.25575501

>>25575201
I know what you mean but it's a bit like reading language like how a computer reads code instead of engaging with the intended meaning.
The instruction is don't work on the holy day so they spend the day anxious about whether they're allowed to press buttons.
>God: relax dudes
>Jews: wait what is the strict definition of relaxing!? FUCK! SYNTAX ERROR!

>> No.25575548

>>25575097
any magic advice off the top of your head?

>> No.25575655

>>25564273
Learn a trade anon

>> No.25575776

>>25564853
>using a woman as your example

>> No.25575877

>>25573490
>110
>calls others midwits

Yep, like pottery

>> No.25575909

>>25575548
i dont know. just try to live a lifestyle where you're not on an emotional rollercoaster. and never trade when you're emotional or stressed out, it's better to just take the day off. if you're overly stressed/sad/negative/angry or happy/euhporic/positive you're in the dangerzone and you should just step away from the screen. your mind might construct all these fantasies about financial ruin or being a multimillionaire, if you are affected by such fantasies you should constantly remind yourself to stay lucid and in the now.

if you're a hothead it's best to just buy your crypto and then hide it away on some hardware wallet somewhere (memorize the word phrase) and then go on with your life. if you actually invested intelligently you'll come back to 10x or 100x or 1000x a few years later.

of course if you invest more money than you can afford to lose that will place enormous stress on you. but crypto is crazy it might even have a good outcome in a few scenarios. but generally it's terrible for your mental state and for keeping cool so if you have a problem with that i would suggest to have your other finances in complete order and to not mix up your general finances and your crypto finances.

>> No.25575949

>>25574286
Okay pleb

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>tfw <100 IQ and lost all my money and no frens

>> No.25576097

>>25569973
wrong

>> No.25576127

>>25564144
now thats fucking based

>> No.25576133

>>25572686
Any high IQ anons have advice for treating high trait neuroticism and moving on from past trauma

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25576191

>>25575109
Only become an architect if you are going to be your own client and design, develop, and build your own projects to sell off land you purchased. There's great money in that. It ain't worth it otherwise slaving at some big firm.
>t. architect

>> No.25576224

>>25575909
yeah i don't "daytrade" anymore but you're spot on on a lot of things. i feel like i my brain needs a great reset of its own or something. anyway good talk, i'll see yas around

>> No.25576246

>>25575501
hehe the sabbath shit is so insane and hilarious, probably the best cultural example of mass neurosis

a lot of it is more cynical though, basically corrupting the original jewish writing to make the religion even more psychopathic and opportunistic and authoritarian and giving more powers to the rabbis. it's called rabbinical judaism after all, and it's for a reason. it's a pretty deep rabbit hole. once you start reading about sabbatean frankism it goes to a whole new level of crazy. the torah is insane. the talmud and the zohar are even way more insane. and sabbatean frankism is the most insane

>> No.25576293

>>25576224
cheers

>> No.25576360

>>25576017
have you tried being less of a crybaby?

>> No.25576381

>>25576017
i'm sorry. buy xcm. maybe. or don't. it just pumped a lot.

>> No.25576394

>>25576133
sure - identify the source. something bad happened - why does it bother you? etc. it will take time but if you keep asking the right questions you'll find the answers. follow your gut, allow yourself to accept truths. look for patterns in your life.

>> No.25576425

>>25563229
For <100 it's because of momentum and rightfully low expectations (not hoping to become a millionaire quickly). They sell at 2-5x and walk away. Get in and get out

for 130+ it's because of being able to act like any sort of investor or trader if needed

for in between-tier, they fight to not be like the sub 100 IQ people, but rely on 130+ IQ people as sources, so they can't really actually tell what to buy

>> No.25576429

>>25563229
racist

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25576483

>>25564273
lol. this brings me back to my high school summer days.

>> No.25576490

>>25576133
stop running away from your thoughts and feelings, you must accept your feelings especially.

>> No.25576494

>>25574135
Kek, I wonder if they knew what they were doing

>> No.25576502

>>25570492
Flynn effect just shows that black people are getting more white and asian. I never understand why this is never mentioned.

>> No.25576505

>>25576394
I will keep this in mind, thank you

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25576508

>>25563229
Suspect it has alot to do with pic related

>> No.25576549

>>25572024
just crabs in a bucket is all.

>> No.25576572

>>25563645
Aka leftist libtards, smarter than magatards but much dumber than intelligent people

>> No.25576638

>>25568794
This is underated

>> No.25576671

>>25574737
memory IQ is not a thing as far as I know
t. 145 IQ read a lot of studies on psychometrics, which test pls?

>> No.25576698

>>25565802
based

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25576720

>>25576360
>39 posts by this I.D

>> No.25576729

>>25574970
Listen youve made me phonepost now and I hate phoneposting. But I think you have potential so Ill try and explain my point again.

We agree on more points than not. But the notion of conspiracy implies a lot more central planning, awareness and orchestration than can be justifiably attributed. Does an elite class exist, meaning a privileged group? Obviously. Do they try and fuck everyone else over? Naturally - they stand to benefit from it. Do they oftentimes collude? Yes. Do they try and incriminate others to do their bidding? Why not. When caught, will they they try and pull every card up their sleeve to manipulate, coerce or simply buy off those that could rat them out (eg media)? Of course.

But what you have to understand is that none of it is preplanned, centrally or even collectively controlled, nor intentionally orchestrated. Theyre people like anyone else - they try to fuck everyone as much as what they can get away with. Theyll fuck you and each other. So do you and so does your neighbour. When the wallstreet homos collude to get an edge over the market, or when the banks close their eyes on blatant kikery as they pass the hot potatoe on, or when the politicians bail them out and get some around the corner benefits, theyre really no different when you tell your buddies instead of random strangers of the secret shop for discount brand clothing or when you turn a blind eye to your friend breaking the law when they steal from their boss. Humans are humans at all levels.

Not even sociopats nor narcissists knowingly do what they do - its just dumb instincts and intuition.

Seriously read up on USSR management, comedy fucking gold. Dont fall for the fear mongering memes "ooh they had SO MUCH power, central planning, kgb wiretapping, personal archives on everyone!!" etc etc, its just entertainment, scary stories for boomers. Read biographies (eg alliluyeva 20 letters to a friend) and youll come to understand what a mismanaged dumpsterfire it was.

>> No.25576746

>>25574724
>specialists, people that actually train for IQ tests (yes they exist) have considerably smaller brain mass than average. The time they need to make the logical connections is minimized by pruning everything else.
nice BS

>> No.25576749

>>25576246
>sabbatean frankism
Insane but all logically coherent only based on corrupt premises. The idea that since God promised to save us from sin we need to sin as much as possible to force his hand is logical on its own. The original intended meaning of the author using flawed human language is forgotten and replaced with strict formulas.

>> No.25576838

>>25576671
https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/FSIQ/
its this test, its a bit of a meme tho

>> No.25576972

>>25576838
>https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/FSIQ/
online tests are always a meme and a mere heuristic afaik, but to be honest this is the best online test I've seen (from the looks of it, won't take it). 15 minutes is not enough to get a real IQ score, but probably a good indication

>> No.25577023

>>25576729
You're 100% confirmed a midwit. R*ddit might be more your speed. You didn't even post a proper argument yet you shat out a whole essay.

>Not even sociopats nor narcissists knowingly do what they do - its just dumb instincts and intuition.
This is probably the dumbest of all the dumb things you've said. I feel sorry for you if you really believe this way, and it will lead to you being abused over and over and over again. Both by the system and in interpersonal relationships. And you'll be too stupid to even recognize it.

>Seriously read up on USSR management, comedy fucking gold. Dont fall for the fear mongering memes "ooh they had SO MUCH power, central planning, kgb wiretapping, personal archives on everyone!!" etc etc, its just entertainment, scary stories for boomers. Read biographies (eg alliluyeva 20 letters to a friend) and youll come to understand what a mismanaged dumpsterfire it was.
Here is your only actual argument and it's stupid, I'm not going to waste my time explaining to you why poorly managed power structures existance do not mean that properly managed power structures can't exist.

>> No.25577112

>>25576746
Just because it's not verified by large scale studies doesn't mean it's wrong. I have a very small dataset but the proposition is still reasonable and seems like a good explanation for some things. Analyzing relative human brain sizes is not allowed by the thought police so I guess we'll never know.

>> No.25577134

>>25576749
it's logical in a james bond villain kind of way

>force his hand
anyways that's kind of what the jews are doing right now, forcing prophecy to come to fruition. except most of them don't believe in the supernatural, yet they are still working towards actualizing their end times prophcies. that is to say building the third temple, have their messiah appear, having a great war, and then attempting to run a global government from israel.

>> No.25577148

>>25574970
>>25576729
Cont.

Instead of "oo they wanted classless society but instead got a new elite with mass surveylance secret police, siberian roadtrips, propaganda machine and immense power" and all that 1984 bs youll see a bunch of literal retards trying to desperately keep their shit together. A village died of starvation? Shit arrest the farmers, blame them and send them to siberia before they say anything. Fuck, people are listening to western music? Get all the local nkvd into a hotel room and let them fucking listen to every mindless conversation in that hotel in the hopes of finding some western "smugglers and sabotageurs". Fuck, none of that leads us anywhere, weve wasted all this money, hired all these people, amassed all this info and our economy is still tanking and people are growing annoyed. Oh i know, lets just blame it all on trostkist collaborators and execute some shmuck before stalin gasses us for doing a shit job.

Imagine a fat red faced sweaty bumbling retard running back and forth and thats USSR for you. Same goes for everythin else deemed conspiratorial. Listen to snowden, same goes for US.

>> No.25577206

>>25563229
Able to be gaslit to not trust their instincts

>> No.25577222

>>25577023
You only like conspiracies because its a simplified model. To explain so much with so little, imagine that. Remain a brainlet for all i care then.

>> No.25577231

>>25569214
You're going to have a tough time of that. Just objectively assessing the people that you've met in your life, his ideas play out.

>> No.25577281

>>25577148
Snowden is either a retarded faggot (that would be my guess from reading his chat logs and hearing his general reasoning) or a limited hangout operation.

Once again you didn't really post a proper argument. Your descriptions of scenarios in the USSR are realistic and things like that happen all the time. But that is not evidence that planned conspiracies don't happen, LMAO.

>> No.25577311

>>25577206
succint

>> No.25577330

>>25570737
That is not even remotely what he said. "conformity" and "collective wisdom" are two different concepts.

>> No.25577355

>>25577206
Give examples of this gaslighting

>> No.25577432

>>25563747
high iq does not imply humility but is really best combined with it.

iq is obviously not the only factor.
take someone high iq from a comfy background and someone high iq from a struggling background. they will become completely different people but in their core they are both intelligent and learn things quickly.
that is really what its mostly about. either you learn quickly or slowly.

>> No.25577449

>>25577281
You simply have no real understanding nor experience with people "of power". Theres not gonna be a fucking argument convincing you because youre autistically asking for one simply because you know nobody can disprove a negative. Eat shit and die.

PS ted absolutely hates conspiratards like you because your shitty fantasyland is simply a cope. Get wrecked.

>> No.25577469

>>25577222
Not an argument lol.

>To explain so much with so little, imagine that.
What are you talking about? The difference between us is that you believe in the retarded dogma that conspiracies can't happen because (no arguments). I believe conspiracies happen constantly because that is what history, or even just simple observation teaches us. I still believe that everything you said can happen and does happen. None of the things you mentioned are mutually exclusive to conspiracies.

Really, you just believe in that dogma because you're a midwit, and "authoritative sources" have told you to believe in that dogma. If it wasn't dogma to you you would have actually been able to make a proper coherent reasonable argument now after 3 posts, but you have shown yourself to be utterly unable to do so.

>> No.25577594

>>25577206
to be fair everyone can be gaslit but midwits turn it into a national sport

>> No.25577640

>>25565992
I liked this one the best.

>> No.25577672

>>25577330
Whatever you want to call it, midwits partake in it to a greater degree than really stupid people do.

>> No.25577777

>>25577449
Lol all you have are logical fallacies and now when they're pointed out the personal attacks come out. Just go back to r*ddit.

>Eat shit and die
lmao you're really hotheaded as well

>asking for one simply because you know nobody can disprove a negative
lmao where is your fedora? you have done nothing to prove that everything is just random incentivized acts rather than conspiracy, and now you jump to this absolutely nonsensical retarded line of argument. holy fuck you're dumb. you're not just a midwit, you're a total NPC.

>muh ted
oh no some author don't like me because I don't believe exactly as him. kek even now you bring it back to some authority "this authority disagrees with you" ok great lmao.

>> No.25577792

>>25577777
checked

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>>25577777
checked

>> No.25577866

i have a 140 IQ, i'm 6'4", white, racist, and my portfolio is 95% Link

>> No.25577885

>>25569557
Eh, it seems pretty evident to me that our dopamine machines and largely pornography has what’s eroded our grey matter. An ADHD brain and an addict’s brain are very similar.

>> No.25577997

>>25565600
Based and dutton pilled. I'm glad hes getting more recognition. I just wish michael would come back. He was a little bit smarter I think, and was the perfect counterpart to dutton, playing the cool straight man.

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>>25577866
Ahem. It's for you

>> No.25578109

>>25577449
By the way, "The systems neatest trick" is 100% conspiracist type of thinking, the scenario he describes necessitates conspiracy. You're stupid.

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25578140

Did you buy CLF? Dollar is dying. Metal booming.

Why didn't you buy CLF?

Just look around and read...

https://stocktwits.com/symbol/CLF

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>>25568794
Underrated indeed.

>> No.25578220

>>25577866
too based for this world.

>> No.25578258

>>25568366
Hes got an iq of like 135 so i'd say hes 'unironically' not an imbecil

>> No.25578338

>>25563438
Wow.

I have to turn my head off when I do some risky trades, and it works most of the time. Seems like my head is pure conservative

>> No.25578569

>>25576483
(((dinkleberg)))

>> No.25578643

Manipulation costs money. The middle of the bell curve provides the most bang for your buck

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>>25563438
Mark Douglas articulates this concept quite well in "Trading in the Zone". One would logically think that if trading were truly a 50/50 coin toss on a macro level, that 50% of traders would be winners and 50% of traders would be busters. The actual number is closer to 90% of traders losing and 10% winning. The obvious take here isn't that high IQ individuals have better TA skills reading charts, but rather that they have the wherewithal to self-monitor their emotional states and errors.

To contrast this, low IQ traders don't have the technical ability to identify winning/losing edges to enter a trade, so they don't even process the psychological reactions of fear and terror that cause poor trading calls, making them inadvertently profitable traders

>> No.25579161

>>25569973
I think many posters CAN be 130+, but many are likely taking shady online IQ tests thinking they're in the elite brackets of society. I consistently scored 150+ every time I tried these, but I'm not arrogant enough to believe those results. The only reliable method would be to take a standardized IQ score, or to talk to a boomer who took SATs while those were still effective IQ tests back in the day.

>> No.25579194

>>25564144
XMR is liberty.

>> No.25579481

>>25578975
profitable traders never gave up in the beginning
they also do a huge share of research on HOW TO and not just thinking buying something randomshilled on biz will make them money.
most importantly is that profitable traders have a strategy that they stick to with military-like discipline.
even if any trade feels counterintuitive they still pull the trigger because this trade is given by the trading strategy (which can be explained and verified).

is this high iq? not really. this is just applying a process and not fucking around like a pussy. you dont trade because you feel like buying link on 20x leverage for the thrill.
you trade because you have a numerically verifiable reason to.
because you know that applying a workflow each day gives a positive net result in the end.

being always present with rules that you stick to no matter what ready to put in or pull out a trade is what makes you money in the end. not only high iq.

>> No.25579528

>>25579481
can be misinterpreted on the leverage there.
I would never trade with more than 1.5x or 2x leverage for swing trading.

>> No.25579541

I always score 110-115

Can I still make it?

>> No.25579712

>>25565802
Perfect example of this is on the game show Who Wants to be a Millionaire, they have an "ask the audience" option, and the audience correctly guesses nearly 100% of the time.

>> No.25580021

>>25572809
This post REEKS of Dunning-Kruger