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>when applying for a job is harder than getting into Harvard/MIT
>>25868365im scared bros. what the hell can a retarded new grad in accounting get as a job in California? rather die than get a CPA
>>25869189UBI is coming dont worry anon :)
>>25868365Kek, that happens when everybody gets a degree. Most people study for nothing, they will never get a better job than someone who starts working after school.
>>25869189You either get into the Big Four or you get fucked.As someone who has transitioned successfully from accounting to IT,here is a tip.Whatever you do,DO NOT APPLY FOR ACCENTURE.That is all.
>>25868365Wym? Applying for jobs is pretty easy, actually getting hired is hard.
>>25868365people who apply to harvard actually have a chance of getting in. any retard on the planet could apply to a warehouse job. i guarantee if you charged application fees for job applications like what harvard does you would see a dramatic decrease in the number of unqualified applicants
>>25869252>ACCENTUREi'll keep that in mind, I was also looking at starting somewhere in IT
>>25869252I got an interview with Accenture for ITThey wanted me to do all these testsThey said it would take all day I said I couldn't be fucked
>>25868365This is the future they chose. You want to let all the immigrants in then don't be surprised you can't get low skilled jobs anymore.
>>25868365>GapsNice, now you're not allowed to be out of work ever.This is why there's really no sane option st this stage but making your own (small) business.
>>25868365>gaps/job hopping>automatic disqualificationjesus fuck.
>>25869335Yeah, fuck people who don't work their entire lives away. No six months hiatus for your east coast hiking trip, no time off to help out your parents, no time to see your children, get back to the office chair you, slave.
>>25869252I have to deal with them every now and then at work. So many pajeets. Sometimes I like to just sit down and do the needful - imagine the smell.
>>25869320"Low skilled jobs"...thousands of unemployed teaching assistant fresh from collage looking for a placement to even get into the field....most trades jobs are swamped with people from overseas with fake credentials...finance, music, entertainment, and media is all gatekept by Jews so either blow them or don't get in.....welders, electricians, drywallers, flooring guys... everyone I know is unemployed or doing door dash / skip the dishes delivery driving because it's the only job.FUCK. Can't wait to be part of this financial machine. Seems really stable and worth the debt I'm in.I didn't even get a stupid degree, I'm in HVAC, there's over 200,000 homes in my city that ALL have furnaces that need maintenance, new buildings going up, etc. Zero job openings. Not only is everything filled, they're bringing more and more people from overseas by the thousands, and using Canadian tax dollars to take care of refugees instead of our own freezing homeless.
>>25869252i applied for an IT position and applying to take the test for applying to an interview, the test seemed to have been unchanged since the early 2000's. I ultimately had to abandon it because they required a land line and the only company here is canceling their landline service soon.
>>25869335You will work every day you are alive goyim and you will be happy.
>>25869656>But you are being culturally enriched you racist fuck learn to be grateful and check your privilege you have benefitted off these people your entire existence so they deserve it now no matter your citizenship.There are people who unironically think this. They hate you and want you and your family, heritage, and entire race dead.
>>25869213only if you spend 10 minutes in the closet with Bill Gates
>>25869335>>25869656System is rigged big time
>Not localYou can basically ignore those>Job hoppingThat's your own fault, including unexplained gapsSo a ratio of about 25% to be invited, and then 50% to get hired if you don't fuck up. 1/8 chance in total. Doesn't sound too bad to me
>>25869252BASED
>>25868365>warehouse job>no interview: unqualifiedWhat? I've worked in warehouses and half my coworkers could charitably be called vegetables.
>>25870247>Not local>You can basically ignore thoseOnly if you assume all 225 rejected for non-local wouldn't have been rejected if they were local. Most of them would probably get rejected for other reasons too if you got rid of non-local and advanced them through the process further.
>>25870286>Kids>Overqualified>Clearly has a different skillset, e g 10 years of experience in customer support>Not physically able>Missing language skillsThere's a lot that might cause you to be dismissed
>>25870247>including unexplained gapsWe have got a bootlicker over here.
I was lucky to jump in by 2017.couldn't imagine it will become so shitty by 2021. Overpopulation is the cause due to social welfare + the very social "safety net" contributes heavily to the survival of the psychologically pathological (immature and unconscientious) crowds. This is not really a left-right issue. same shit happened in the West and in the USSR in the 1970s-1980s with a huge spike in single motherhood and a drop in marriages. Japan reached the point of no return by late 1980s and China will reach it within the next two decades. This will probably never happen in the Middle East and most of Africa, so we will eventually come to a point when the Fed is abolished, the gold standard is brought back and we will go back to the medieval Islamic age.
>>25870343Yeah fuck off. If you go and NEET for two years and can't tell me anything how you spent that time, not even learning or travelling or kids, etc, I will assume there's something wrong with you.
>>25870405Are you fucking retarded?You don't have the chance to explain, they drop your application if there are gaps in your CV.t. I have recruited people at an investment bank
>>25869787Yep. Super fucked up that people still pretend like things are good.Amazing how a 3k/month salary will totally blind a person to those around him... so...The ones that don't have gaps in employment, stuck it out at the coca cola plant, and have proven their usefulness as a paid android who fulfills functionary cog tasks within middle management positions are the only ones who will ever hope for any modicum of a chance at being hired.You basically have to have a good credit score to get a Job these days.Like. You need to be in good standing with the system to get into a fortune 500 company as a dish boy. When the alternative is bitching about unemployment, it's no wonder there's so many structural engineers working at Starbucks.Not from inability... from noncompliance. If they sniff any rebellion in you, and sense you're not a total cuck faggot who'll do anything they need you to do, then you're literally not a good fit for the position. Crazy. But if you're a traditional man in modern western society, you're being bread out by fucking numales....And because of the terrorist propaganda, you think revolution can't happen until everybody else starts. Google the bystander effect, apply it to mask compliance. We are like toads boiled from lukewarm.
>>25870470The system has always rewarded sheep. Always.The problem is the system becoming ubiquitous.
>>25870460So what you’re saying is lieGood to know. I’ll put in some bullshit for my employment gap if I ever have to be a wagie.
>>25870628Yes, unfortunately, yes.If you're really eager to work for Mr.Shekelberg you make an excuse for your gap. Like make a some shitty code repository on gitshit and say you were working on it as a personal project.Or writting a book or, even easier, doing volunteer work at some place.
>>25870470>Amazing how a 3k/month salary will totally blind a person to those around him......i noticed this myself when I finally got a car. When I used to take the bus to work, I really got to see a different....more desperate...side of things. Once you have a car, it's really easy to just roll your window up and drive past it.But when you're getting on the bus. You get to see what the world is really like. Not padded in your little personal bubble... no.Right next to the bum who's gacking back fentinol drips on the seat behind you. Everybody's in their phone. Not here. La la land. In the hypnotic flashing light box..its eerie to see how hopelessly antisocial people have become. ....people are starting to look like the Beautiful Ones, from Rat Utopia.You may have blue hair and multiple personality disorder, but you are incapable of dating outside tinder. Fun thought, tinder can just....saaaay you matched with somebody they think would be a good fit.If an operative wanted to get you infected with aids, they just have to pull up a database with aids people and link you with them.It's a match! Enjoy your aids.If you guys are wondering, I've been not ok lately with lockdown. I'm going bananas for cocopuffs
>>25870628Yes.Say you were an employee somewhere.Download a texting /calling app.Use that number on your resume.Apply to 100 jobs.See how many times an employer actually checks.If you're running 80% odds....still better then zero call backs.Unless you're a brain Sergeon, most jobs are common sense. For instance, I said I had 6 months forklift experiance with a factory job I had.TRUST ME. They're not calling the factory to ask if I was a forklift operator. You're lucky if they call at all.Same with referances. Answer your own referance calls.
>>25870781That's a sane take, don't worry, you are still saner than the masses.I share your sentiments. I just look and watch people whenever I am in a public place, exactly because of how eerily robotic they seem.Watch this:https://youtu.be/2U9WMftV40c
>>25869335well they should be easy enough to fakehow much due diligence are you expecting for these type of positionsi do foresee a growing oppurtunity in services to provide fake references and shitdon't overestimate the intelligence of the average hr drone either
>>25868365That's an absurd chart. In my experience (7 years managing an auto parts warehouse), if you show up on time, don't look/smell homeless, have a base understand of how to get along with other human beings and can pull/pack the product, you got the job. None of that other shit matters. That's some HR cunt at work trying to make her job look meaningful.
>>25870906There are already companies that provide background checking services.Your point in correct, but some people have their "honour" (or ethics) above getting a job at place X. I don't scam people, I would rather try my best following my principles and risking things going wrong, honestly.
>>25868365Imagine rejecting someone for being a 'job hopper'.Imagine being so stupid to expect >1/2 yr commitment from your workers who are there only to increase your shareholder value/owners pockets.
>>25870978They have enough CVs to choose between the guy who will jump out at any minute abd time who stays a while longer after his initial training/learning period. It's a rational decision, really.
>>25870937Yeah. Anybody who fits the bill will cut it really.I think the POINT HERE, anon Is that 1000 people are all jockeying for the same 8 positions.Get with the chat here big guy we need that brain power!!!Pic related, it's me at my current jobHvac degree.>works at a call center >on lunch breaks. After work. I'm dropping 10 to 20 resumes with custom cover letter to everywhere in a 50km radius from where I live. I would literally be further ahead to just kill myself. I think about it all the time.
>>25871035>They have enough CVs to choose between the guy who will jump out at any minute abd time who stays a while longer after his initial training/learning period. It's a rational decision, really.People job hop because the current job isn't at least very good.If you're offering a very good role then why would they leave before a reasonable length of tenure?And if you're not offering that, and you know that, then you're a cunt of an employer.
>>25870978>We are looking for a long term wageslave with no ambition
>>25871052You can't go out and do your own freelance repair or start your own biz with HVAC? I've been thinking of going tradie cause I'm sick of office life.
>>25871092Lol so 99% of employers lol
>>25871092>>25871035Also I used to sneer at job hoppers. Then I looked at my peers when I joined the company and had since left.Their careers were better than mine. Here I was after 4 or so years thinking it was good to show 'loyalty' while burned out.What a crock of shit!I learned the hard way to get out of a job even after a single year if it is not going well. And to only stay in a job for 2/3/5 years if it is going GREAT.Anything less, leave. You only live once.
I'm never finding a job again, the amount of asslicking I'm not willing to give and the overwhelming number of candidates for any given position, coupled with my job hopping past, puts me in the undesirable bracket. If I lower the bar, I'm discarded because whatever, usually I don't hear back. Guess it's better this way, either I find a hustle by myself or soon it's the streets. I am tempted to let it all go to waste and eventually disappear somewhere before kms. Fuck I had hoped to feel this way in my old age, if ever, not approaching 30. The kind of job I didn't hear back from in the past year and a half hurts my pride, if only someone gave the the benefit of the doubt, but there's so many people to chose from, why waste time on one fag with a bad profile?Fuck you I blog posted.
>>25869252Lel.I work for the daughter company Avanade and I can't agree more.Consulting overall is fucking awful but Accenture is peak bullshit.Especially in delivery centers. My god
>>25871092>And if you're not offering that, and you know that, then you're a cunt of an employer.Why would they offer anything good? There's 1016 deperate people lining up for a chance to pack boxes for min wage.
>>25869252I'm finishing my economy degree and I've realised that it's worth horseshit so I want to transition to IT. Serious question: how did you do it? Internet courses or what? What exactly are you doing now?
>>25871118Wanted: employee who says" I don't really know what I wanna do yet. I'm just in college to figure out what I Don't wanna do ahhaha"FUCK me. I can't believe employers take guys like that over me. I'd smack his shit for Say in something faggy and end up in prison for assault....arrested by two 110pound women with weak wrists and tasers.
>>25871092Of course, but companies don't eant to offer a good role. They have a need, and want the chump that will do it cheaper and longer.
>>25869335It makes sense. Employers want cheap, manipulable employees. Job hoppers aren't as manipulable as someone who's worked at the same place for 20 years. Same for employment gaps. Employers need you to be afraid of being fired (even though they're just as afraid of getting sued for wrongful terminations).
>>25871178IT is the same horseshit.The problem is being corporate.
>>25870977>companies that provide background checking services.so you mean free money for providing basic templates in return, yeah thas a good scamagain how much competence are you expecting here, and how much money do you think they'll spend on going over 1000 applications for low tier jobsnow of course if you are going for VP level then the money spent and the resulting diligence and competence changes
>>25871258>free money for providing basic templatesFuck verisk. Nice mvr template however.
>>25871210Exactly.
>>25871168>Why would they offer anything good? There's 1016 deperate people lining up for a chance to pack boxes for min wageI don't work bottom of the ladder minimum wage jobs. Anyone who does that more than a year at the beginning of their career is an idiot.Heck even at McDonalds you should be aiming for management if you decide to stay there more than a year.Don't tell me you feel entitled to a 3 bedroom house with garage for working at Starbucks as a barista?
>>25871258I have no idea about the xoats involved, but I would guess for more senior positions it's more expensive, as you said.
>>25871208>Of course, but companies don't eant to offer a good role. They have a need, and want the chump that will do it cheaper and longer.You are right, they want to deliver their mandate for the lowest amount possible.But the smart companies know they need to provide a combination of good enough pay and work that is both interesting to do and also valuable on a resume for long term career prospects.
>>25871132Yeah, if only the bank would be gracious enough to approve one of the 5 applications I've submitted over the years for small business loan.I've applied to grants. Etc.With rent being 1100 for a 1bedroom and food for myself being 300 to not eat like a fucking animal, I'm left with 200 a month for pot +phone bill.I can't even fathom affording a child if I had one.Unless you're sitting on $30,000 in coke money from your high school days, good luck saving every single last red fucking cent for 60 straight months so u can afford all the fixings you need to run a respectable Hvac operation. U need a lot of specialty parts, connectors. Useless horseshit that u gotta have kicking around, tools. A van...Yeah anon. Let me get right on that small business plan like it's not 100% all I think about.FUCK dude this shits so wackkkkk
>>25870247>not localWhat if there aren't job opportunities in my area and I'm looking elsewhere? I'm not going to move ahead of time and then gamble on getting a job after the fact
80 iq bitches are making fortunes from onlyfans, but some pathetic bizraelis cant figure out how to play ball in the game of life. What else is new lol
>>25871199Checked, exactly. I applied to numerous jobs after finishing my Wood Technology degree or whatever it's called in english. Can't even find a job as a carpenter... Because i don't have experience. Like i didn't work on the same fucking machines you've got in you workshop for past couple years doing my degree. Truly a clown world we live in
>>25871313Smoking one in your memory when I inevitably forget this thread like the others
>>25869252>DO NOT APPLY FOR ACCENTUREI heard of a guy who almost committed suicide because he worked there for a year lel
>>25871294The situation is the same for "qualified" office jobs. The middle class in the west in being crunched together with the lower class.
>>25868365You really have no idea the amount of dysgenic tier people who interview for entry level positions. t. someone who hires people for entry level positions>>25869276Herein lies a big part of the problem. Jobsites like Indeed have effectively done for hiring what Tinder has done for dating. You apply to 100 jobs in like 15 minutes, assuming you even read the job description. When I put out job ads I get probably 50 applicants a day and of them maybe 5 are even worth looking into, i,e doing my homework on them. If they look like a normal person who isn't going to cause a ton of issues for me at work I'll call them and go through the first screening. Of everyone I call I'd say about 1/3 don't even answer and 1/3 don't show up to their interview. Of the 1/3 that do show up I'd say 20% are unfit. Keep in mind I do a lot of initial screening because we aren't hiring for a ton of roles and we are very customer facing. I can't just hire a bunch of retards with bad hygiene and drug problems. >>25869335Literally make up a company and a position and have your friend be the reference. No one looks into this shit when they have to process 1,000s of applicants. >>25870339This. I've seen resumes on Indeed where people don't even put their full name.>>25870460>recruited for an IB Yeah that's a little different than a warehouse job. These people probably aren't even using a CV. >>25871342This board is way fucking dumber and more socially inept than you think. Also, everyone thinks they are entitled to making $80k at their first job.
>>25871311They offer fake shit, like "team building" activities and coupon discounts at you local soi vendor to fool employees.
>>25871210
>>25871294I have never worked an "entry level" job for a single day in my life and don't plan to. I'm just saying that shit is fucked up if 1016 people have to apply for a job like that.
>>25871319They don't give a fuck about your situation. They will only look for non-local if they cannot find local.
>>25871244I thought in IT you at least use your knowledge more often. I just want my work to be valuable and it seems that IT is as close as I can get to that. To late for me to become a doctor/lawyer.
>>25869189Leave. California is a commie shithole that will fuck anyone not considered black or impoverished
>>25871395>Literally make up a company and a position and have your friend be the reference. No one looks into this shit when they have to process 1,000s of applicants.Then why automatically discard for gaps?
>>25871306well as this shit progresses i would think in true free market fashion there will be an arms race between the checking companies and the faking companiesas the checking companies don't give a fuck about actually finding fraud, they only care to appease their corpo overlords for those fat checks i'll guess the balance will tip to the fraud until goverment swoops in to regulate this shitjust look at those celeb kids and the college admission scam as a blueprint
>>25868365How do I make one of these graphs? What site/app?
>>25871352Open your own small shop and do small gigs for locals. You'll probably earn 10x what you would working for someone else. See what you can get done without heavy and costly equipment.
>>25871319I live in the North East and I got a call for a position I applied to in North Carolina. It depends on the job and their timeline. No one is going to waste their time on a shelf stocker from 1,000 miles away when they are trying to fill a position by the end of the week and anyone with a pulse can do the job.
>>25871443So what the fuck do I do? Use a fake address in the application?
>>25871313>With rent being 1100 for a 1bedroom and food for myself being 300 to not eat like a fucking animal, I'm left with 200 a month for pot +phone bill.No offense but you should get out of that trap. Sounds like where you live is easy to come by work but you pay for that with high rent and little left to waste on pot.Find a smaller city, quit smoking that crap that just kills your ambition.
>>25871449Do you think the average code monkey thinks about algorithms and computer science?They just want to use the latest meme package and they only need to know how to do basic level shit like conditional logic and iteration. They're just as braindead, they are trained within their companies to follow protocol, just like any other employee.
>>25871352>Checked, exactly. I applied to numerous jobs after finishing my Wood Technology degree or whatever it's called in english. Can't even find a job as a carpenterDid you include a covering letter showcasing the work you have done so far? Maybe even include photos?I've seen people say "I applied to thousands of jobs", turns out they just clicked a button on Indeed. That's not a real application. Real applications are tailored to the job vacancy.
>>25871467In principle, the ultimate outcome wouldn't be that one. It would actut be the same comoanies (or fake arms of the same institution) offering both services.
>>25871380>The situation is the same for "qualified" office jobs. The middle class in the west in being crunched together with the lower class.I agree there is a crunch on the middle class but nobody in any office should be on minimum wage for more than a year.If you are then you are simply not thinking about your career and how to enhance your value.I've fucked up my career but at least I avoid minimum wage, it's not that difficult, especially today in the internet age.
>>25871493I have no idea, honestly, but that could work if you do it carefully.
>>25871573>Did you include a covering letter showcasing the work you have done so far? Maybe even include photos?Thanks for the advice, didn't think about that.>>25871477I'm saving money for some mid/high end tablesaw, i've got some powertools but literally all i need is a decent tablesaw to start doing some work on my own
>>25871616>nobody in any office should be on minimum wage for more than a yearThat's where we are heading to, it's the end game, don't fool yourself.
Graduated software engineer last year in Australia, applied for two jobs got an interview for both, went to one and hired on spot. They pay above grad average and have beer on tap. Meanwhile my business friends still working part time at supermarkets.
>>25871466Why would you hire someone who has big gaps in their employment history and doesn't even bother to explain why? Best case assumption it probably means you got fired, went through the interview process for X time and were DQ'd for some reason(s). Worst case it means you were in jail or rehab. There's a lot of heroin addicts in my part of the country so if I see someone was in Florida for 6mos - 1yr that is usually indicative of them being in some kind of treatment facility there. Keep in mind you are going up against literally hundreds if not thousands of other applicants all for what is probably shit tier work as the qualifications required for more professional work act as a natural filter. Even though I am hiring for what is essentially entry level work we are located in a place with a lot of top quality schools. This isn't bumfuck Indiana so I have access to candidates who may not have experience but are in a chemical engineering program at a highly ranked school which shows me they are high IQ and I won't need to hold their hand the entire time
>>25871659Honestly that sounds great. I would really try to get your local gif to take off, and at one point if you feel like you want to work for someone else, you will have a bigger "portfolio" to showcase, and more experience.
>>25871530I don't need ambition. I need a will to live. I shouldn't have to come up with some goddamn fucking scheme to run my shit.I just want to fucking install furnaces and have a family and I can't because of the fucking jews fucking everything up.
>>25871432>I'm just saying that shit is fucked up if 1016 people have to apply for a job like that.Most of those applications are low effort from people who aren't even suited to the job.When I look for roles, and I am not senior, I expect to see maybe one or two new suitable roles every day on the job sites and I live in a moderately sized city.I will get out one or two laser focused applications because of this.Might take two months to find a job like this. That's say 100 applications or so.Maybe there are also 100 other good candidates out there, and we all get one of these jobs.Simplistic I know but there are always a ton of candidates for a job. Every job gets at least 20 or 30 serious applicants if you leave the vacancy open long enough but it's not like there is only one job available in town.tl dr the ratios are nothing to worry about.
>>25871659>Thanks for the advice, didn't think about that.You're welcome. Here's another tip:Look at the job ad and the bullet points it shows.Now in your 3 or 4 concise paragraphs of your covering letter, put exactly what they were looking for in those bullet points. If you can, reflect this in your CV/resume itself too.Your new employer will jizz his pants when he sees this job candidate.
>>25868365Nigger, did you see the main causes for not employing people?Most of them are fraud or just come and don't show up when hired.Come on, it's easy to get a job if you want a job and are serious.If you just think "naa, I will go tomorrow. Maybe." It's normal not to have a job.You wouldn't buy pieza from restaurant that maybe serves you or serve the wrong order half the time.Same for an employer, no reason to hire someone unreliable.
>>25868365Meh look at those statistics, I bet most of the rejects are from people that send their criminal record as CV
>>25871594>offering both serviceshats of to you fren, thats a brilliant idea i didn't even think ofyou keep the detection of the fraudelent profiles to a acceptable minimum to please both sides of the dealthis is top tier consultancy harvestingand you just know big corpo is too rigid, doesn't care enough to investigateas long as mid tier hr drone can report to HR VP we spent x money amount on outsourcing and found y level of fraud and saved z monies of overhead on our own dept with x << z, then HR VP shows overhead streaming lining to board and stonk goes up everybody is happy
>>25871395>You really have no idea the amount of dysgenic tier people who interview for entry level positions.this. I can first-hand confirm that what this anon is saying is 100% correct.
>>25871722City of toronto: millions of people.Job listings within 12 mile radius: 426.430 jobs to split between. Millions.Oh and like 25% of the listings are for bookkeeping /accounting...Also. Half these jobs are autospam from zip recruiter and monster. All just cross posted.........millions of people. 400 postings..>I get 50 applications a day.Hmmmmm
>>25871449>I just want my work to be valuableThen you are going to have to work for yourself. IT in current year is an absolute shitshow with everything filled with bugs. Software is literally shittier in 2021 than it was in 2008.
>>25871780I screenshot this so that I can disseminate it everywhere In other forms. Well-said, dude.Like that "catch me if you can" guy lol.Yes. I'm a flight marshal lol.
>>25871891>Like that "catch me if you can" guy lol.>Yes. I'm a flight marshal lol.One of my favorite movies!
>>25871145Best way to get a pay rise is to leave
>>25871846I guess that's the endgame but you gotta get there first>>25871780Have you ever done that yourself?
>>25871791Basically.You need to have both service providers separate on paper, though.
>>25872100>get there firstWhat kind of myth are you smoking?You can start writing software right now, you just need a computer. There is open source software.
>>25871199Ironically that image supports the libertarian position
>>25868365Absolute bitch made this post, without a doubt, but...1. People don't realize how fucking insanely dumb people are that apply for entry level jobs. A lot of people here joke about having low IQ or claiming people have low IQ, but the people that apply to these jobs are: High schoolers, College students, drop-outs and/or complete fuck ups/genuinely stupid people.I'm talking about people who can't even do basic algebra or install a program on their PC.2. Lots of people on there don't even qualify or can't even speak English.3. Gaps/Job hopping means the person isn't reliable, has major issues, and/or is lazy/too clever to be working there. It means that a person with gaps most likely won't put up with bullshit and will leave really fast because the work fucking blows and the boss won't be able to treat them like a slave for more than a month (which isn't ideal for that shitty entry level job anyway).
>>25870890I don't normally click shit like this... But vouch. This chat is good. Thanks for the legit share anon.
>>25872269The whole series of lextures (the self under siege) is incredible, I highly recommend them.
>>25869335>>Gaps>Nice, now you're not allowed to be out of work ever.Always lie. It is more easy right now than it's ever been.Look up businesses that have gone belly-up and claim you were employed. Use their disconnected landline as the only contact number for your fictional boss. Rehearse how dirty you felt being on gibs and will do anything to be a wagey again.
>>25871780I don't know how to do some of the stuff in the job posting. Even in uni we didn't get the opportunity to try it or do more than concepts. What do
>>25871313Hate to break it to you anon but if you want to save money you don't get luxuries for the time being. No pot, peanut butter, popcorn, rice and beans are your new best friends. That's what separates the truly wealthy from the normie retards. The truly wealthy understand sacrifice and waiting long term. You'll never get there if you don't learn how to maximize your savings
>>25871476Please sirs
>>25872303He had me in the first minute. I like his cadence and I like what he's saying. Lotta good points. I see a lot of my own preconceptions confirmed here. I've thought it very strange that Facebook execs don't let their own kids use Facebook. I find it stranger still that I find myself pulling my phone out while watching tv, when boring shit is happening. As if my brain needs another dopamine trip while I watch tv and eat addictive bullshit. Lol
>>25872345It's not really a solution to say "just disregard all of your ethics and play like them".
>>25872392Tell that to a sweatshop worker making 7 dollars a day and living in-house about how if he puts aside 2 dollars a day he'll be a millionare in 5 years.You fuckin idiot. I've been saving for 2 years and had 4g saved until I busted a tooth and had an unexpected expense for 800. It's still not back to 4g after almost a year, cause of car repairs, had to get a ball joint fixed (which I did myself but still cost me more then a whole months savings.)If my car breaks down, my savings is gone. Need to pay the bills.You're the type of nigger to hold down a job living out of a van and talking to normal everyday people like they should join you.Just because you made a quick buck with some lucky scheme doesn't mean everybody who does exactly what you did will find the same success. Potholes happen. And they cost a balljoint Again. If I was 40+ , I'd probably think like you too. Still delusionally believing that you earn enough to get ahead if you just stick to your guns. We are wage slaves. We make uhh...just enough so that whenever inevitable shit comes up, it'll put you in debt. That's the point. It's a system of financial entropy, where all money flows back into the capitol pile. Whoever has the cash to run it, makes all the cash, and pays the unfortunate to do his dirty work.
>>25871395>You really have no idea the amount of dysgenic tier people who interview for entry level positionsBecause working for someone else is degrading and the people who degrade themselves by resigning to an interview will most likely have issues. 21st century hiring process is a waste of good people's time.
>>25871395>Also, everyone thinks they are entitled to making $80k at their first job.No they don't. They're just looking for a job. Show some decency.
>>25872736>I've been saving for 2 years and had 4g savedHow the fuck is that even remotely possible. Stop spending so much fucking money on rent, you idiot. Clearly you can't afford to live alone on your salary, so get a roommate already. Then you can have an extra 550 a month with the added bonus of the misery of having to share your living space with a stranger to motivate you to get your shit together so you'll be able to actually afford to live alone.
>>25872760>>25872868>working for someone else is degrading Then work for yourself if you feel that way.>>25872868>they're just looking for a job And I'm just looking for someone to do it. I'm not hiring the biggest charity case, I'm hiring who I believe to be the best fit out of my possible choices.
>>25869252i've interacted with a bunch of accenture people and i noticed they really like hiring attractive young womenwas that your impression as well?
>>25868365This is what happens when you do supply side stimulus in a demand starved economy. Niggers just fucking spend money on roads and electric grid maintenance. Neglect killed thousands of people in a wildfire already.
>>25869230There is no shortage of STEM jobs. It's their own fault if they are too retarded to not think about financing their "vacation" degree.
>>25872495I agree 100%.
>>25872891I pay 1100 with a roommate, 550 each.Car insurance- 400 (welcome to Ontario)Gas - 150Food - 300 Fast food? Never.Phone- free I use Wi-Fi app. Pot? 50 for a quarter ounce once a month, I smoke a rationed 2 grams each week, with the crumbs for week 4. >>>weekend toker. Im as frugal as it gets. I don't buy booze, I don't buy Netflix, internet included with my apmt.I apply to new jobs literally everyday. I don't hear back. Im no idiot, friend. I'm what the snotty call "economically disadvantaged"It makes me sick that people really feel how you feel man. Like im some kinda fucking chump idiot for being in a place where I might be homeless if I DON'T take the job. I ain't giving up on my dreams, but I'll thank you to be a bit more realistic, less focused on the ideology of self efficacy being a primary determinate factor, when family, financial stability, and networking advantages set me in a totally different social strata that comes paired with all manner of distaste from those who figure they're more equipt, adaptable, and skilled... When in fact, it's solely because of your background, who you are, your likeability, your employability, ambition, mental space, sense of community and support, daddy bought you a car, mommy kissed your booboo growing up.You know nothing of my misery. And claim people in my situation are nothing more then fools, clowns who should know better, or are too stubborn to fix themselves well bud.... open your horizons a touch. It's not quite so simple.
>>25870978If you have 1000 applications you can be selective and job hopping is easy for brainlet HR to filter out.
>>25868365Yet the vast majority of people are employed despite a significant portion of the US being ethnic 80 IQ underclass
>>25870247Even if you ignore all the people rejected for dumb shit like drugs or felonies, 81 people failed the interview vs 19 given offers. That's a 19% chance of getting hired for a low-level warehouse job. Admittedly, most people applying for warehouse positions have their brains leaking out of their ears from years of misuse, but it shouldn't be *that* hard to get something that'll primarily be physical labor.
>>25873225You spend as much money on car insurance as your rent, how fucking retarded are you?
>>25873296600,000 people400 job listings
>>25872392Idiot.After 3 years of working, I managed to put 11000 aside for investing in stocks, and I live ultra frugally. I made 46% on that last year, and now Have around 16100€.Do you know how I will be able to reach 100k€ with this money?I will have to do at least 20%/year for 10 years. I need to be as good as Lynch, Buffet, Soros, Dalio and co, for 10 years straight. Kill yourself.
>>25868365>be me >college student >apply to 3 fast food places >rejected from all Isn't that supposed to be the tutorial mode job?
I've always had this idea of making a living off drawing porn. Any artists here?
>>25873131>education is supposed to be my path into a jobYou are never going to make it.t. STEM grad and working in finance
>>25873327My buddy pays over a grand for insurance per month bud. 13g's a year to drive a Toyota takoma.To be fair, he was in a couple accidents so his premiums are high.But yes. Car insurance in Canada is robbery.Don't act like I'm retarded. My job is out of the city, there's nothing here but burger king and Tim Hortons. Call center is literally better, inbound. Pretty chill. Better then drywalling which I did for 4 years. Backbreaking to sand roof all day I'd rather kill myself.
>>2587322590% of these babied idiots are unable to feel empathy. You are right, don't let them convince you that you're worth less.
>>25868365i have a degree now what
>>25873361Get a load of a chain link "made it" guy.People get so fucking indignant with a little financial success. I hope you paid your gains tax faggot. See you from your cell in 7 years.
>>25873527?
>>25873446I can see why many people in dense cities are making an effort to not use cars anymore. Way cheaper and no sitting in traffic. Cars were a mistake in all honesty
>>25869213secure the bag
>>25873526I wonder the same thing. feel like I wasted time on my degree
>>25870460Just put it in your CV? Are YOU retarded?
>>25870247>Job hopping>That's your own fault, including unexplained gapsYOU TOOK A COUPLE MONTHS WITHOUT WAGEKEKING? EXPLAIN YOURSELF, GOY
>>25873611with my degree the only option is more / extra schoolng, fuck that. I hate my job now so it might have to happen. Maybe sleepy joe will bail us out eh?
>>25873649>2013-2014>Unemployed
>>25873653This. He's a fucking imbecile.
>>25869335Based capitalism
>>25873659I hope so fren
>>25873446>My buddy pays over a grand for insurance per month bud.this can't be real
>>25873678Yes, that's my point.What did you do in those two years?Travelling, learned skills, ...? Totally fine, just be ready to talk about it. Nobody gives a fuck besides that.Sickness, children or similar private reasons? Totally fine as well. It's literally illegal in some countries to count in those gaps.Same goes for a horrible market situation, e.g. if you're looking for a job in catering right now. HR people are not mentally ill and aware of that, especially since you will not be the only person with that issue in your industry.Kept applying to jobs, but weren't hired for a full fucking year with a good economy? Something clearly is wrong with you, you keep messing up somehow. Your application is your first proof of being able to do the job. People will be more dismissive, but that's your own fault 99% of the time.Spent them jerkjng off to loli hentai in your basement and being a retard with nothing to show? Then why the fuck should I hire you?
>>25873030Not him but this is the case at a lot of places. Ive worked for various companies and some pretty much only had stunning women but of course their roles were sales, marketing, recruiting or some other useless job. Its nothing more than to entice talented men to the company. Im sure the higher ups pick women who they think will suck their dicks for promotions as well.
>>25869213>Ubi comingThis demoralised me so badly, I knocked back a 230k pa job this morning.
>>25873943You don't get it, you are a moron.You have 2 options:1 - lie and fill that gap with fake employment2 - leave the gap there (even if explained)If you have a gap, they will assume whatever justification you have is bullshit.If you have honour, and don't want to forge your CV, you are fucked, point.Kill yourself.
>>25873943Haven't people in this thread already asked you what difference does it make if you can lie anyway? Just tell people to lie on their resumes. It totally eliminates the problem for you as a hiring manager if everyone lies on about gaps in work history. What the fuck are you bitching about then?
>>25874064Because HR people meet liars all the time. They'll obviously probe you during the interview. If your remaining CV is decent you will have no problems. If it isn't you usually didn't do shit during those two years and were a lazy fuck.In fact, if you have something interesting to tell it might even be an advantage. I tend to prefer people like that.
>>25874152Nigger, just because you work in HR and it hurts your fee-fees doesn't mean that HR aren't positively retarded. If you say the usual sentences they are waiting to hear they completely eat out of the palm of your hand. HR is absolutely the rock bottom of the corporate world, even the cleaning ladies are wiser.
>>25874027>>25874064How does one just lie about their employment history? In this day and age employers reach out to every company listed on your resume to get a hold of someone who can say that you actually worked there. And with LinkedIn it's getting harder to just drop your friend's phone number as a reference and have him lie for you. It's fucking bullshit desu
>>25873793>this can't be realIt's real in Canada
>>25874224I'm not working in HR, I'm a hiring manager for my own department you dumbfuck. HR people hire according to what I tell them. They have no rule "dismiss everyone with a two year gap", that would be retarded if the profile is good otherwise. That's my point.
>>25873793i pay 140 aand i fee l like im getting ass raped
>>25874228Surely tou have a friend of family member with a real company, even if for tax purposes.
>>25874304Yea, I do the same for my team, so what you idiot? Everytime there's a "justified gap" in a CV they immediately think "nice bullshit, you were just unemployed" but they don't say it out loud because of PC shit.
>>25873575Yeah. Siiiigh. Look, I get that. Where I was when I bought this car, I was holding down a decent enough job. It was hour and half each way, so 3 hours commute every day on top of my 8 hour shift. So. To me, the car was a way of getting out of heavy labor, so I could get a fancy desk job and just cool it all day and not feel like a literal labor-slave.. i was subcontracting under assholes who only had me there for the tough shit, sanding, mudding and taping corner beads on doorways and shit, basic stuff. With car, I pay like fucking tooooo much. Forsure. I get it's retarded,But now, I can do this office job. Which sucks harder then drywall because I not only have to DO trivial bullshit all day, I have to swim in it, fucking thinking about trivial bullshit but my boss calls me in to feed me this line about how very important it is that I improve my times which are never close enough, they just move the goalpost. I don't wanna bitch too hard, it's a job. My point is that my commute is literally 20 minutes, so under an hour daily now Running 13, 14 hour days everyday for 4 years will make a grand a month to ease that seem like chump change. I just wanna be financially independent but the way things are going I don't think anybody is gonna be there for much longer.I think things are about to.......reset.....in a major fucking way. Like.... Mars conjunction with Jupiter-level fucking moloch rituals. 100%. I used to laugh at conspiracies. >used to.I don't believe in astrology, but I think the learned elders of satan do.
>>25868365that graphic is the result of a) warehouse work applicants being literal 70 IQ degenerate niggers and b) warehouse managers thinking you need 10 years experience in box stacking and forklift operation to stack boxes and operate a forklift. two sets of complete retards that deserve each other.t. former warehouse wagie
>>25874424This.Also, if they wanna fire you, they'll chalk it up to anything legal they can find. You showed up late? Big deal, I'm noting that down in my records here.Boom second time? You're fuckin outtttiieeeeeee. Same thing goes with a lot of shit, actually. People aren't allowed to say things, so they just use their body language to give off extremely dismissive, rude, cold tones with you to imply that which they cannot say.Censorship just breeds rarified communication methods like codes and symbols.
Fucking cringe is simply anyone who doesn't think life is pure luck. You don't have a choice. If you're poor and in the wrong country then you're fucked. If you're born with debilitating medical issues or just plain stupid then you're fucked. I bet you can pull 100 slumdog millionaire stories and go oh but this guy did it.... but There's 8 billion people on this earth and most live in poverty and most of life is suffering. The hustle culture bullshit and saving the pathetic 30 dollars extra a month instead of enjoying a fucking cup of coffee is double digit iq 'advice'. It's extremely easy to fall into poverty and it's extremely hard to rise above it. I'm not even a mad poor fag and nor do I have empathy for others simply I'm not totally retarded to the true nature of this world like some posters itt
>>25874777u started to sound like a schizo at the very end but I agree on the 'reset' upon us. The biggest wealth transfer in history will happen soon under biden
>>25874777Holy shit, checked!
>>25874954The best part is when you realize I actually am skitzo and fabricated the entire story for the autistic work of fiction, actually a meet. Lol as if I'd work. HahahahahAnd what's That? Tripple 7s on a pope pepe. Facts.I might be crazy, but I'm the guy making fucking sense next to this crazy fucking bullshit world. I've been on Chan too long. Fuck me lol.Some of this is real.
>>25874880>>25875070I know right....Fuckin...Off by 8.Tell me about it lol, this memetics stuff is hefty.
>>25874880>Censorship just breeds rarified communication methods like codes and symbols.Wise
>>25873446>my friend is more retarded than me so it's ok You will unironically stay poor if you don't figure out that insurance situation. You're being fucking robbed and you don't give enough of a shit to fix it.
>>25871313Sweettalk Shaniqua into being the CEO on your Wakanda-themed notepaper.
>>25870937Yep I agree>rejecting somebody from warehouse job because they have a DUIGood luck never finding any male employees willing to put up with your shit. It's sad to say but defeated people make good employees if you give them a chance and some hope. I think at least half the long term employees at my old job had some kind of past or present alcohol issue.
>>25869252>He fell for the Accidenture meme.I participated and won their Consulting Tech Challenge in uni, got free restaurant driver out of but not take them up on their job offer. Good thing I had the sense to ask other tech consultants.
>>25868365Beyond fucked, I thought I had it bad when I have to compete with 300 applicants for a basic website administrator job. And is only going to get worse. >Non-local>Poor interview>Gaps>UnqualifiedBitch, it's a job at a warehouse, not fucking brain surgery!>>25870978Especially when job hopping was encouraged for the past 30 years!
>>25875208So my options are, call around to one of 5 other companies offering extremely razor thin margins of improvement, to the tune of +/- 5% from 400. Or, I can drive without insurance. And never get into an accident OR get pulled over. Ever. Because it's a crazy fee if you get caught, and if u do it twice they'll jail you. First fine is like $70 > they catch u again I think it's 3 months prison, liscence revoked 2 years.Or, better yet, I can just sell the fucking car. And try to find something that I can get to by bus. Which, in all honesty, means I would need to move.I have a lot of things I can't just readily leave. I've started from scratch a lot, moved from place to place, and I'm finally at the point where I have a decent life, but my work situation is so fucking soul crushing, to realize I am easily bright enough to come up with an idea for money, as easily as it comes for other things, but alas. It is like I am afraid of success.Also. Pic related. This thread is buried deep. Lol.
>>25875274Holy fuck dude that's actually the smartest thing I've heard all night Jesus fucking CHRIST that's brilliant.
>>25868365This sort of shit is why I started my business and why I actively treat wage slaves, especially HR and middle managers (usually the people who think they deserve the most respect) like absolute dog shit when I interact with them in public.
>>25868365Beware the education industrial complex
>>25875824I'm starting my own small business during the next months, transitioning from being an office wagie.Any tips?
>>25875824What's your goal there? To teach a lesson to assholes with well adjusted lives?Or to massage your unchecked, psychopathic ego, for your lack of one?
>>25869656This is the future the west chose around 80 years ago.One man back then saw it coming and warned everyone.
>>25875934Saved. Thanks.>>25876077
>>25870247Better not have any gaps in your CV for that warehouse job any 80 iq moron can do.
>>25869213Honestly this needs to happen but it wont,Milton friedman predicted it, but when it came to UBI he always mention that no politician would allow it
>>25876020What's the problem with being occasionally childish?We are all faulty, so if we are goong to avt out like idiots from time to time, at least we should be vindicative against those who deserve it.
>>25874897this is true fren. luck is really almost everything. right place, right time, circumstance is everything. this is why i just lol at people who think it was their hard work or skill or talent or whatever that got them to where they are. sure those things might have helped. but nothing happens without the circumstances surrounding it and everything that led to everything. i would even go as far as saying that these people can't see past their luck-privilege>check your privilegei'm fucking cringing at this but it's really true. we are all nothing. nothing separates you from someone else other than luck and happenstance.
>>25876146That's the ticket though:They expect you to be:-80 iq dumbdumb human resource tool.-With no gaps.-busy bee, hire me :)I am drone!If you can agree to their terms then CV is the answer. 20 resumes a day lol this thread changed my life.
>>25869213I think it is....but it's a trap anon. you don't want to be dependent on the government for your survival/well being. you are owned at that point. also....imagine having Mitch McConnell and Nancy Pelosi being responsible for determining your level of income and having it adjusted and fought over every time its up for debate. sounds like a fucking nightmare.
>>25870470>>25870781Same-fagging defeatist. Move to where there is more demand.
>>25869297How do I buy food and pay rent if I'm not qualified for a fucking minimum wage warehouse job? Am I supposed to live under a bridge until I die?
>>25876462It's good for creative and entrepreneurial people. They can risk more without fear of starving if things go wrong.It's bad for 99% of the populace, who will become soulless drones.
>>25869335I already have like a five or six year gap. I give exactly zero fucks. I got to raise my kids through their most tender years. Wouldn’t trade it for anything. The world can get fucked.
>>25876014It's a completely different world from what you're used to. You need to take failures, setbacks, alienation from people around you (you'll now be an outsider/renegade in their eyes), and stuff like that in stride. You need to be in a state of personal development and self-investment at all times. Get good sleep, hydrate, etc. It's a test of your psychology I think more than anything else. Don't kill yourself (I mean literally, don't end your life). You might be tempted to do that a couple times. Don't. Having to get a part time job to generate consistent money to cover living if you need to is not a failure. There really isn't any failure anymore if you're seeing things correctly. Remember who makes you feel good during those times. Those are the people you take on vacations. When you start producing pretty good money, the tax game becomes the one you play. I cut a check to the IRS larger than what I would make in a year once upon a time and nearly clenched my jaw so hard my teeth almost shattered. I just sat in my car with a loop playing in my head "awww man...fuck...come on...fuck..." Take time to actually enjoy the money you spend. I don't do enough of this and my life is not as good as it could be relative to what I imagine it could be, although I sometimes ponder if I would even have the money I do if I operated any other way. I think most of all man, as I just rattle this shit off, have fun and be excited. "Enjoy the journey" as they say. Take it seriously, but don't take life too seriously in general.
>>25876333Nice trips.Nah bro, this is a case of the useful idiot.Have you seen or read hunger games?Katnis feels bad for the people in the Capitol. They're just dumbdumb, the tv tells them what to think. They're not responsible for your situation.Idk. Your ethics are your own business. Just... idk man. Doesn't seem right, I don't think they deserve it. Fun to shit post tho. I say words like nigger, kike and faggot here simply because I am able to. Can't blame a guy for wanting to poke some anonymous fun. Chaos is good and productive, part of the order of things.You cannot blame your Aunt Grace for doing buttscoots when she's at a hypnotism. No shock.Same thing here. These people are born of the system. Made for it. Wholelly accepted by the system. Those popular kids? They do great in life.Itd be like an alpha looking down at a gamma from Brave New World, they're just in a totally different plane of existence lol.Can't fault people for being dumb.As far as moving with the masses though....we are all part of the herd whether we think ourselves separate or not .
>>25876689I think your stance is correct.
>>25876457>>25876547Yes. I'm playing the black pill card.
>>25871395>Also, everyone thinks they are entitled to making $80k at their first job.Fuck you kike. I'm 24 living with my parents and I can't get a minimum job after failing to get a degree because I don't have a work history and I'm an akward introvert. When my parents die I'll be left with nothing and homeless.
>>25876698That's a lot of wisdom, thank you.In general, the reason why I am going into this journey is exactly because I already feel like a pariah and I fully embrace the fact that I can't fit in, but I am productive and successful at my endeavours.Regarding that IRS payout story, why did you hsve to pay note than a year's return?I'm not American, so I'm not acquainted with your tax system.
>>25876462>>25876616Took my stimulus check and bought an heirloom garlic crop for 1/4 acre. Average 9 pounds out for every pound in. Can sell the seed stock for 23 dollars a pound online. Sell some, replant some, consistent income, hopefully eventually generational wealth. Couldn't have done it without the extra income, was barely breaking even before. UBI will make more like me.
>>25876020Because they have this little pissy fuck attitude like you do. This "teehee we're so well adjusted, eat shit LOSER" while they absolutely shit on entrepreneurship and risk-takers. Then, the moment you start hitting some home runs they become true believers and want to lick your asshole. What does that imply? Well if you hit hard times, these are the first assholes to turn on you so fuck em. They think their way is the only way to do things. I would have been happy to go my whole life just ignoring people like that, but the ENTIRE time I was trying to get my footing, those little fuckheads made every setback, which were bad enough as is, a million times worse. Just like I vowed to take care of the people who were kind to me, I made damn well sure that once I had fuck you money/fuck you skills I would liberally use that privilege and not play their stupid corporate bullshit of pretending we're friends, or pretending I have to like them. You say something fucking stupid? I don't have to laugh at it. I will never, NEVER need people like that and so you bet you fucking ass if I'm at a party and some turd is trying to ingratiate themselves to me or inflate their importance, I'm going to give them a hard time. So fuck you, I apologize for nothing.
>>25876462Remember, PoC and women will get larger UBI checks because they are oppressed :)
>>25876579Generally. Yes. You MUST be able to do at least that. Or, you can live amongst the hill people. I hear talk of distant lands where they live in peace, and harmony. It's called the country. Move there.Get the fuck out of the smart cities.The eye of sauron watches you while you sleep.
>>25876754I believe that mindset is also one of conformism itself.>don't blame them, they can do no betterNo, I believe everyone is responsible for their own positioning in reality. The place you start at is outside your hands, but you chose the direction you take your steps. People that chose to be slaves in society are also at fault for being conformists. It's less stressful to just turn off your brain and live like they tell you you should be doing.
>>25876863How aren't you seamped by large scale agricultural producers?
Regarding jumping around from job to job, that's not a huge negative anymore. I ran through some female zoomers at our company who were with us for about a year and moved on. It's normal to them. The older guys at our company saw themselves having their jobs for 10+ years as a negative based on their kids' experience in the workforce. Shows you have no ambition and you're likely to be stuck in your ways. Food for thought.
>>25876890Incredibly based
>>25877041Heirloom garlic isn't dominated by large scale producers. The few there were were found to be importing Chinese garlic and devastated by the trade war. We don't import heirloom garlic from China. What we do have are those shitty literally bleached bulbs you see at Walmart, stripped of all nutritional value. Its a great time to be a small garlic farmer (of seed stock, I imagine those licensed for food are doing poorly because the restaurant industry is destroyed).
>>25876890amazing
>>25868365Why would getting a DUI preclude you from being able to unpack pallets of mass produced crap?
>>25868365>5 no call no show>3 no show to onboardlooks like its for some shit tier job lmao
>>25871145lol owned faggotron
>>25868365>Drug issue 5Yea
>>25877152Nice niche, bro. I hope it keeps working out.
>>25873414I have a friend who makes decent money doing commissions for people, but he will not draw porn, furshit or anime. I've suggested it to him at least a dozen times, but he is too principled and proud of what he does. Instead he does portraits of dogs.
>>25876890Honestly anon, I feel you man. Completely. I myself have quit jobs in spectacular fashion as a demonstration against their inept mismanagement and subsiquent blaming me for it. I've snapped on a few PC bros in my day, for a bunch of different reasons, but commonly regarding people's shit-eating grin, or a snub here or there in conversation, lil put downs.. man. That can really test your nerve, I know the exact feeling of having those friends turn on you the moment they sniff blood in the water. I get what you're saying. People pray on weakness. It's like a wolf of wallstreet kinda vibe man.In /biz/ ....Cheers dude. I hope you get the opportunity to smear some of their shit back in their face. Redemption. Like having a mic drop moment lol. Light a cigar with a 100
>>25873653That’s not job hopping though
>>25876616if you don't need the UBI, then it's great. if you are dependent on it in any way though....it's a problem for you.
>>25876980Truth.Cannot argue that there, guy. I suppose I like to believe positive outlook produces better outcome in the world ..But then again heavens gate seemed pretty positive till the whole mass suicide thing
>>25876853Find people that are like you. That makes it a bit easier to keep going as well. But what I found when I followed this advice is you'll find that you'll still mostly be on an island even among other people trying to get their own game going because you'll either be competitors if you're too similar or will be in different operations so you'll never be able to totally relate. Cultivate the optimal middle range between a skeptical and open-mind. A lot of it is getting your perceptions and thinking honed. Recognize when something is a fact and when it's just an opinion. Opinions are fun because you can do whatever with them, but be careful of going against facts...make sure an opinion isn't disguised as a fact though. Another thing is don't get lazy and don't get burned out. I had a buddy that was in a totally different business (restaurants and food trucks) and he just wasn't really taking the game seriously when times were good...well COVID happened and he always seems to have money, but he hasn't had a truck out in months so I don't know where he is getting it and I don't want to ask. He was making good money before, but had the opportunity to be making way more and he just wasn't doing it. Now, the easy money isn't so easy in his case. The expression that was drilled into my head was "grow or die." And as I type that, I guess one other thing to mention is don't put the cart before the horse. You probably shouldn't worry about growing or dying before you have something worth actually growing. The order you do things is important, but advice you get will be for different stages of the game which can lead to confusion. It did for me. So I guess a lesson that's applicable at all stages is make sure you are focused on the right things at the right times. Make sure you can sell one ice cream for a $1.00 profit before having an existential crisis over how you're going to produce one million ice creams a month. Right focus at the right times.
Went to Superdry store last month to get winter coat.The cashier started chatting with me about who I am, where I come from, what I do.I am a physicist, working in IT. I get paid literally the bottom of what is acceptable for my qualification and my area. Luckily, I am leaving this shithole soon. Anyway, I asked what he is doing. Turns out he studied geology and can't find a job so he is working as a cashier. He was maybe 26-27 years old. Is this the future we've chosen?
>>25877152I respect the hustle and what you're doing, so I don't want to knock on you... but you're talking to a guy that spent 10+ years working land and raising animals on my homestead. I have a decent understanding of small ag markets.... all I want to say is this isn't the type of income that keeps your head above water. having multiple income streams is important
>>25873361How old are you though? Why is ten years your time horizon?
>>25871463This. Cali is literally uninhabitable if you're white and don't make 6 digits.
>>25871476I could make something similar in photoshop but I doubt that's the most efficient way.
>>25869252Hi Kyle.
>>25877553Locked and loaded. Wise words man. Right focus, right time.No good having a cart if you don't have a horse to pull it. First, gotta raise a horse, break it. Train it...build a cart....And you still havent even started moving yet. Takes a bit to even get a ball these days before you can get one rolling.A total fucking lack of surplus is the issue.How to generate surplus.Then, how to scale it :)
>>25877553Thank you again, truly good words.Fortunately, I have a very good friend who is coming into the business with me.My main focus regarding operations is actually to maximize margins as much as I can, not scaling. Quality over quantity, delivering the best I can, making processes as automated as possible, eliminate bureaucracy, etc. Robust, solid operation, not a balloon that inflates rapidly hut can burat quickly as well. No leverage.I'm not really looking to be a millionaire, just a free man.
>>25877718I'm 28.
>>25877573Chosen through negligent planning, perhaps.Maybe not something consciously chosen. If we ever wanna change our reality First we gotta shake thatHood Mentality :)Fuck school nigga imma b a dope dilla.
>>25877573>I am a physicist, working in ITWow, that's literally me.
>>25876853Generally speaking don't let people rush you either. If you have a girlfriend that wants to get married, buy a house, and start a family within the next 12 months, you really need to accept that you might not have a viable business for several years and it might be fair to her to make the holy sacrifice of "doing the right thing for the greater good" and cutting her loose. If you have friends that want to take a vacation every month, you're probably going to have to learn to say no. In fact, now that I type that, that's another thing worth mentioning. TIME MANAGEMENT! You won't have time to do things you really don't want to do (and in some cases things you want to do) so if you say yes to those things you aren't 100% on board with doing, you're just shooting yourself in the foot to be Mr. Nice Guy. Being Mr. Nice Guy is great, but it's not a free lunch.This was a big issue for me. I felt like Hitler turning people down so I would spread myself way too thin. Which might explain why I'm now unable to even fully enjoy the money I'm making because I became my business through and through such that I can't even really take time away. It's sort of like my identity now I guess. Even time typing up these posts is time I could be dedicating to typing up an essay to help me conceptualize maybe another way to scale, so I probably should get off 4chan. But I guess that's another thing to mention before I go, find ways to actually help you think about your operation like a big game of chess. For me it's essays, walks, and talking with friends. If I move this piece...what happens. Well what about this piece? Is there any configuration I can make that will facilitate a given outcome that I want? How can I move the pieces in such a way to bring about that configuration? And again man...have fun, don't kill yourself (again, literally), it's going to be an exciting, scary, and transformative time of your life and there are no guarantees. Embrace that, appreciate it.
>>25877573Under rated shark gif.
>>25877573Yes. Universities lie you you about job prospects, businesses lie to you about shortages, governments and businesses screw you by plugging the shortages with cheap foreign labor instead of waiting 5 years for you to train. By the time you train, the market is flooded.
>>25878136>TIME MANAGEMENT! You won't have time to do things you really don't want to do (and in some cases things you want to do) so if you say yes to those things you aren't 100% on board with doing, you're just shooting yourself in the foot to be Mr. Nice Guy. Being Mr. Nice Guy is great, but it's not a free lunch.Incredible advice. Thank you, deeply and honestly.
>>25878215Ditto. It's late. Off for now. This has been a great chat tho. Haven't had a talk like this maybe ever in my life. It's been good. I did read but I can't be bothered to articulate lol it's 11am the next day, for me.
>>25878306All the best, friend.
>>25878215You're very welcome and as cliche as it is "good luck."
>>25868365>warehouse jobs>unqualifiedI'm sorry, how can you possibly be unqualified for a WAREHOUSE job? Literal retard tier jobs. Did 510 cripples without arms or legs apply?
>>25877069I guess it depends on the field. For an average web dev job it’s meaningless, but for something harder and more specialized where a framework won’t spoonfeed you it’s a huge red flag
>>25869189Get some underground connections
>>25878016Okay. €100k should certainly be attainable at that age just not in a decade if you get typical stock market returns. I will admit ignorance to how one is charged fees, taxed, or what precise options are provided in Europe as far as investments go though. As it is, if you invested in something as simple as SPY or VOO which historically returns an average of 10-12% per year and if you scaled back to investing €3k per year to loosen your belt you can reach just under €80k through a compounding 10% annual return. You'd pass €100k in just two years from there and you would still have plenty of time to save, invest, and compound from there. Hell, twenty years out from reaching €100k you would approach €900k.This assumes €3k per year to boot. If you continue to save as you have at €3666.67 per year you are looking at >€97k by 40 years old. If you kept it up for another two decades it's >€1M.That is just by indexing along the S&P 500. You can take on riskier investments from there. The former scenario frees up some money - not much, but some. The second scenario assumes you continue along your current accomplishments. Hopefully you would even catch a lucky break and make more income along the way.
>>25878597
>>25870470You sound gay and bitchy that you don't do anything
>>25869252i work for accenture and this might be the last company left that still hires and retains talent based on merit and not woke bullshit
>>25878597I am assuming no more money put into my broker because I am going to start a business now.I did the calculations, if I did 20%/year, starting today with 16100€ I would have around 100k€ in 10 years. Do the calculations yourself.
>>25871395>You really have no idea the amount of dysgenic tier people who interview for entry level positions.I feel this. I worked a couple of retail jobs before school and once when I was chatting with my boss the store manager, he told me that when he is interviewing a new person he is mostly just trying to figure out if the person sitting across from him is crazy or not.
>>25873225jeez dude. You're getting justed hard. Maybe consider getting some certs and using that as a jump to have more money so you can get a new job. I can tell you if you get some certs in GIS they hire literal retards to do this kind of work.
>>25878685Boomer investing is the standard guy. I base my advice on it because either you suck at investing if you cannot beat it or else you get smart enough to find better investments like I did with BTC and LINK.
>>25877152The jew fears the humble garlic farmer.
>>25878776If you believe you can accomplish that then go right ahead but your post said: >>25873361>Do you know how I will be able to reach 100k€ with this money?>I will have to do at least 20%/year for 10 years. I need to be as good as Lynch, Buffet, Soros, Dalio and co, for 10 years straight. Kill yourself.So I took that as a question with a simple answer rather than as a plan.
i have a gap of two years in my resume that i like to put in there because i was a stage musician on tour
>>25878861100% this. Gauging what level of a pain in the ass the person might be is all. I wanna think about you as little as possible after I hire you.
>>25874897Can’t pretend like I give a fuck about pajeets like you in Mumbai
lmao you have no idea. Black and Mac just brought on an "electrician" to my site, whose degree got "destroyed" in Syria. He has no credentials and no ticket. He shows up, sits for 8 hours and leaves while everyone does his job for him
>>25879132I have been doing above 30% since I started. 20% sounds attainable.But my point was as what you sre implying, correct. Even if I have a good performance, 100k€ is nothing. At 38yo I won't be able to finally start my life as a free man. So I wait until I am 48 to have 1M? At least in that case I could consider retirement before 70, you do have a point.
>>25868365if anything, this is just proof that universities have really fucking low standards outside of having money thrown at them
>>25868365>when applying for a job is harder than getting into Harvard/MITWhat a faggot outlook.Why not say>When getting into harvard is simpler than getting a jobPussy ass bitch
>>25869252>s someone who has transitioned successfullyYou will never be a woman.
too much sad cunt energy in this thread
>>25878420Thanks. I need it. To you and yours,anon!Bombs away!
I'm 25 years old making $120,000 in caliDon't you guys have any qualifications?
>>25879326Big Four...Get Fucked....Successfully transitioned....Is this fucking loss right now? Holy fuck dude my sides are in orbit I totally missed that whole conversation.
>>25871313> spending $200 on weed> absolute state of wagies
>>25876890>Well if you hit hard times, these are the first assholes to turn on you so fuck embased. You always have to be aware of these kinds of people
>>25879396Yeah? Im 600 years old and making 14k a month net in Wyoming doing airsoft equiptment sales u fuckin newfag
>>25876020take a look at this faggot
>>25879396My dad works at Nintendo
>>25879617What was That?Couldn't hear you over the sound of ya girls pussy, homie.
Why is 4chan so fucking gay dude holy shitJust.... go be a fag somewhere else
>>25873030yes. first thing i noticed when i went to their staffing office, all young hot chicks
>>25872392when you watch too much dave ramsay
>>25873956If people hire women based on looks, where do all the ugly females work?
>>25873225>>25873482this.not everyone can just pull themselves up by their bootstraps with no connections. dont listen to literal autists on 4chan lmao