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This is all gambling now. True valuation barely means anything anymore. We are in a new realm.
>>26533159we are finally seeing the reality that shorting doesn't make sense as currently implemented
>MY ABSTRACT OVERENGINEERED FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTARINOOOOSSS NOOOOOOOOO
>>26533159>Ive never seen the guns like thiswhat does this mean?
>>26533255we are finally seeing dubsalso i hope people dont just start buying stocks with shorts
>>26533317>(((cramer)))He's enjoying the BBC that reddit posts
lol good. bring on the chaos
>>26533317It means they're afraid.>“There’s been an awakening,” Tim Collins wrote. “A large group of retail traders have realized if they work together, using market tools such as out-of-the-money call options or low-float stocks, they can overpower any institution or short seller in the world, outside of the Fed, of course.”
>This is all gambling now.always has been. stocks stopped making sense in the 20th centuries onward.
>>26533159>NOOOOOOO MY FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT WITH INFINITE RISK HAS INFINITE RISK GOVERNMENT HELP MEEEEWEEEE
>jim cramer is confirming clown worldOH SHI->>26533317It's a figure of speech
>>26533159no, they just sell used gameswhy buy new ones quarantine
>>26533395>Goyim ownership of stocks is dangerous for our democracy!
>>26533448>>26533295kekcramer is such a piece of shit i kinda like the guy
It was simply ridiculously over-shorted. This caused serious liquidity issues. A notable meme figure (Burry) came in and cried foul first. With time other investors took notice and started creeping in. This caused the first murmurations and then the mob joined in after leading to the surge.This is a unique case, most stocks aren't as shorted as GME was. If anything it's a warning to prospective bears.
>>26533395what worries me is using this as a bullshit excuse to regulate small time investors
>>26533159Amazon proves this long ago.
Its almost like the entire system is so masturbatory and isolated from the real world that all it would take is someone autistic enough to truly analyze the system (aka GAYMERS) and find a way to game it. In a perfect world everything gets torn down. Investing is Jewish trickery.
>>26533432yeah im joking about the drama of the post
>>26533542of course, ordinary people are getting rich, can't have that now can we?
>>26533568They messed with gamers... gamers!
>>26533159>now
Boomers admitting defeat. The stock market used to be for the rich only, then the poor got in so they had to keep their fancy meetings private. Then the poor got internet and we began to talk with eachother, we saw through bullshit and now here we are. They’re scared. They’ll probably do something to ban us online trading. But fuck it, we’re here now and they’re scared. Fuck them and fuck their money, your pita will buy my shares at $300 each minimum Friday, mark my words. And everyone who joins in, buys GME and sells it Friday or Monday will be fucking them over too. Get your piece of the pie lads.
>>26533780>>26533689
>>26533494>now listen here jack, Mr. Shekelstein says you're a dangerous nazi looking to torture North American brown bears or something! Because of that I'm gonna have to tell the american people to tighten their belt buckles and sell those stocks, c'mon man!
>>26533522I think this situation is being over hyped as a paradigm shift. The MM(s) who was short was being irresponsible and they got whacked. Whoopdeedoo. Am I wrong for assuming this happens not infrequently?
>>26533846
>>26533703>>26533542>>26533395the bigger question is: how can I get in on this, I'm a massive, massive fucking whaleMaybe not to the level of a Bogdanoff, but my trades mean something. how can I help make boomers lose their money?
>>26533773Unironically though its pretty glorious that a game company whose audience dedicated their lives to breaking system basically found an infinite money making glitch irl. Naturally Reddit=/=gamers but they might as well be. First Vidya rocked the political world with GG and now it will rock the finance world with GME.
>>26533395>outside of the Fed, of course
>the gamers rose up
>>26533846you have to go back.
>>26533922It is very infrequent. They are hemorrhaging BILLIONS over this. Enough money was invested into Gamestop they can pay off their entire companies debt.
>>26533159GMEBBNOKfor the win
>>26533395>government pumps the marketYES THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE FOR A HEALTHY ECONOMY>internet pumps the marketFUCKING INCEL TERRORISTS ARE BREAKING THE FABRICS OF THE UNIVERSE
>>26534153lol but that money isn't real and its gonna vanish as fast as it appeared
breakingwe are seeing pockets of bubbles
>>26533934buy gme unironically, squeeze the fucking life out of the shorts
>>26533494>Our sources report that right-wing extremists are speculating on the stock market together using platforms such as /r/eddit and 4chan>These people are clearly manipulating the market, the SEC says in their recent statement.>The investigation is ongoing.>This sort of market manipulation is unacceptable, and is a danger to our democracy. >Our sources also indicate the users are largely white males.
>>26534153how can gamestop the company tap into all this?
>>26534153Now consider what could happen if r/wallstreetbets started going around targeting all the stocks with too many overleveraged shorts... or maybe, if they started longing companies with the intention of actively eliminating short sellers. Things could get messy. Just a thought.
>>26533159is this the beginning of the 1999 crash?everything high as fuck, apple at 2.5 trillion dollars, worldwide economy collapse, free handouts, massive debt, everyones getting poor except jews, 90% of ceos stepped down from their lifelong positions, market is going fucking pababolic, 10 baggers everywhere, stocks going up 500% in a dayi think gme is a good company buy holy shit
>>26533159Populist politicians get voted in and suddenly "democracy is breaking down." They just keep recycling the same lines when the goys start getting out of line.
>>26534341How do you find overlevered shorts?
>>26533934wallstreetbets. take a step in to the daily discussion every day and see whats new. seems BB and AMC are up to bat now
quite happy that the people are playing their game. They short squeeze everyone when most stocks should've went down
>>26533395>>26533542(((Institutional investors))) are losing money over this so they are going to have the government crack down on this. They can't have a bunch of nerds beating them at their own game.>>26533934>I'm a massive whaleNo you're not. If you were you wouldn't be asking us for advice.
>believe in reggie>buy 200 shares at 5.00>take off half at 50 on friday>exit at 100 todaythanks reggie;_;7
>>26533159>the jews get out-jewed by their own jewish tricksnooooooo you cant be so sneaky and underhanded this is not fair!
>>26534436kek good analogy
>>26534255Gamestop can litteraly cash out 100million of it right now if they want. This artificial pump might actually be enough cash flow for them to make a ridiculous turnaround. Despite the actual company being irrelevant in the stocks price right now.
>>26534341just fuck their shit up sempai
>>26534425no clue but filling in the broadening triangle that's already on the spx chart would be pretty kino
>>26534480Seconding this. It seems like WSB wants GME to consolidate around $80 so they can continue squeezing shorts for the next couple days, meanwhile they're moving onto other stuff like NOK, BB, BBBY and EXPR.>>26534462Short interest.
>>26533159What's a safe asset (other than land) in case the world markets collapse?
>>26533340Lol you know that is what any responsible trader does though?
>>26534425It's the beggining of a lot of things. Get what you can now and make sure you buy a years worth of food and basic supplies before anything else.
>>26534677Precious metals. Gem stones. Pokemon cards.
>>26533159"the market is breaking down because the institutional investors aren't making bank at the expense of the plebs, shut it all down!"I don't understand how it makes any sense for the market to stop during crashes or high volatility. The people who run this thing are completely unethical pieces of shit
GAMESTOP WAS THE SYSTEMATIC RISK IN THE MARKET TOP KEK
>>26534671BB for sure. The ticker is so memeable. BB means "battleship."
>>26533159this is what happens when anyone with a phone can fomo while they're taking a shit
>>26534715Buy gas nigger, you want stored gasoline over and above anything else.
>>26534677a pussy if you're willing to use it.
>>26534677One you might not consider is seeds. A couple of $1 packs of basic vegetables and herbs will go a long way if food becomes scarce. Another huge one will be tobacco. Alcohol can be made relatively easily. But tobacco is a lengthy process. In the end of the world a pack a day smoker will give you just about anything for a ciggy
>>26534341Luckily reddit will just tell the mods: "Doing this hurts the black community" and you will see oceans of [deleted]
>>26534153Is this a case of exploiting trading bots, or did humans give those short orders?
>>26533489ok I just got an amazing idea... what if they sold used games... to the chinese market? AIGHT LETS GO $10000 BY FRIDAY
>>26534870Thats a good one. I admit I am lacking there, only a single 10 gallon jug. I would love to get to the point of having ~100 gallons and rotating those by using them to fill the car.
>>26534530>No you're not. If you were you wouldn't be asking us for advice.Is too, pic related is anon.
>>26534530>hey are going to have the government crack down on this.The only way to crack down on this is to ban the 1st amendment.If they do that, plebbit normies will an hero.
>>26534930Thats probably what would happen but we're looking at something novel here. We're looking at WSB attacking short sellers for (partly) ideological reasons, which should scare the shit out of Wall Street.
>>26533159GOOD. IT'S A FUCKING FREE MARKET.FUCK INSTITUTIONS AND POWER TO THE PEOPLE
How hard would it be to write something which synchronises RH shorts; could literally destroy America lol
>>26533159>"""true""" valuationThis is a completely made up concept.Everything ever in terms of pricing is about supply and demand.
>>26534948Always been the case with trading bots. >Bots are the new paradigm! Literally can't lose money!>OH! NO! The bots didn't predict corona. >Oh! No! The markets deviated from the 100 billion machine learning simulations! >In completely unrelated news human run hedge funds outperform algos. How can this be go-guys?
>>26534948I'm not a pro but I think it was humans. The problem is that you can borrow and lend your portfolio so you can short, then I can pay you to borrow your folder and short it again. So there is two shorts for a single stock. Normally not a problem when there are plenty in reserve anyway but if they are all bought up then uh oh.
>>26534671So just Keep on the lookout? There’s no public ledger?>asking for a fren
>>26533395Absolutely based.
Rolling for 4chan being a market institution. Millions will come to seek the wise opinions of 4chan wadding through FUCK NIGGERS posts and FUCK THE JEWS.
>>26533395Good
>>26533159at last... the gamers have finally risen up... you made us do this, feminists...
>>26534425Why do people compare to 1999?WAY more people today than 20 years ago in the markets, people no longer need personal brokers, an commissions have been eliminated.
>>26533159welcome to crypto. the stimulus checks are for stimulating (aside for amazong and walmart) they are called speculative checks because everyone is now a stocks/crypto gambler. the real crash is coming once they stop the stimmy checks
>>26534310I think most companies hold some of their own stock.
>>26534061
>>26535097That's bullshit most orders were being made by rival hedgefunds. Michael Burry was the first to notice GME was waaaaaay overshorted not wsb or /smg/
>>26535191It's public information, you can find it on Yahoo Finance even. Pic related.
Heres a thought: We have seen in previous waves of new types of communities that form on reddit that are deemed "inconvenient" get shut down before they cause too much controversy for the site. We saw this with The Donald, Fat People Hate, Chimpout, and other shit.I think it's pretty much a guarantee that at this rate WSB's days on reddit are limited, especially now that they're attracting scrutiny for the j*ws and the media.Bad news: /biz/ will likely be flooded with refugees who will shit up the board for weeks, and bring renewed scrutiny to this mongolian baskit weaving websiteGood news: /biz/ can potentially be the new base of operations for WSB's collective market manipulation. The experience of growing a community around trading in this unique way will likely flourish when combined with the weaponized autistic schizophrenia of 4chanOverall this "cheat" won't be able to be easily stomped out.
Oooooh we goin boy
>>26535403GME's definitely not being driven solely by WSB but I do think they are at least determining where that shit goes. For all the hiding of loss porn these people do I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and assuming they have enough capital to move things.
>>26533159Why the fuck would you ever short in an ever inflating economy?Literally makes no sense.
>>26535445The subreddit won't be shut down. Reddit only shits down subs that are by nature problematic. When it comes to subreddits that grow to be problematic but aren't necessarily bad at face, all they have to do is plant a couple of heavy handed moderators and destroy it from the inside.They would ban "we hate jews"They would plant mods in "jews in america". Its even better than way because it allows them to control the narrative (99% posts "jews are GREAT <3). Plus all you need to do to stop something like WSB is flood it with too much information. Same way shills nonstop promote their own shitcoins here.
>>26535410BasedThanks anon
>>26533159implying it hasnt been since the start
>>26533159most gme tards will lose money btwgod only knowns how many people bought above $100 for the "epic squeeze".
>>26535764>Plus all you need to do to stop something like WSB is flood it with too much information. Same way shills nonstop promote their own shitcoins here.less effective when you aren't sliding shit off a board though. people follow power users on reddit.
>>26533934you open your broker and buy stocks with a high short interestits that hard
>>26534425inflation is probably on the way
>>26535955whoa whoa whoa. slow down there and take it from the top. like I'm 5 this time.
>>26533703Why not?
>>26533159Adapt or die, cramer.
>>26533159>Institutions mad afFucking Gamestop lmao.
>>26535533Checked
>>26535533>>/r/wallstreetbetsFaggot
>>26534436Occupy wallstreetbets
>>26535764reddit fucking hates jews, anon. especially israel. they are always calling out the jew for always using the "this is anti semite behavior"
anyone can explain if you should still buy GME or not?
>>26534462Look for companies that have large amounts of naked short interest. Raid them after options expire. Preferably do this to a safe company that has become distressed by long term naked shorting because the hedge funds will feel safe in taking options expiration for granted.
>>26534081I think it's hilarious that Gamestop is such a persistent meme. >Battletoads>Spilling Spaghetti>Fucking Gamestop
>>26534153lmao we did it. We saved Gamestop!
>>26536380yes all in
Here's a chart for your smooth brain Cramerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoLOtsm_Jow
lmao shorts got ass raped
https://exchange.rigel.finance/#/swapIt's pumping now, get in here and MAKE IT.
Expect something drastic "shut it down" style in the short term, like pattern daytrading meme rules.>buying options now requires a license, exceptions for certain institutions of course.In the long term I can't help but feel we're approaching a global "shut it down" event....
You guys are getting in on AMC aren’t you?
>>26536380Hedge funds that were shorting this are getting bailed up by other hedge funds. It's not going to be quick and easy but short interest is still over 100%. In a world where Tesla is worth 800 billion dollars ask yourself if Gamestop being worth 5 billion dollars is ludicrous.
>>26533295>>26533395>>26533448>>26533494>>26533909>You really thought you could make it without wage slaving ya filthy goyim?
>>26533159the next gamestop
>>26533934>I'm a massive, massive fucking whaleNigga please
>>26535301>Defeat the media >Wound globalism>Wound Wall Street>All because we weren't allowed to game
>>26533542they already do that with pattern day trading flagging and other shit
>>26536765I'd say there's still plenty of upside. If reddit can keep GME above $115 when Friday hits there's gonna be a gamma squeeze, and we all know how fun those are.
>true valuationAmazon doesn't produce anything of value. All they do is repackage goods sold by third parties and stamp their logo on. eBay doesn't charge extra to put their logo on items, their website is more sincere to the end costumer and their system is less prone to scams.How about Apple? Sure, they sell a lot of crap, but they don't have most of the market (and they can't have most of the market) and all their products since 2015 have been subpar and mediocre. Nokia/BlackBerry actually make telecom equipment and business software used all over the world.Tesla? They make mediocre electric cars that are too expensive for normies. Toyota does way more in R&D with their fuel efficiency, their research into Hydrogen cars and their hybrids. Which are really a better solution for the average buyer as a. Gas stations won't disappear any time soon and b. Having a fuel motor, even as a backup, completely eliminates all the electric car caveats.
>>26536981Realistically what does that look like? Is it a huge spike that lasts a few seconds and if you miss it you’re fucked?
>>26533159I actually should have predicted this some time ago. This is deep theory but online message boards effectively have their own ideological economies that operate with identical mechanisms to capital markets, except that where excess value is to capitalism, excess enjoyment is to online message boards. That these two economies should begin to merge is surprising and interesting but not totally unpredictable. There's a reason why a lot of people online have made a fuckload of money with almost no understanding of markets and that's because they already invest in the ideological markets of these message boards. The two have become connected and that's why their investments have paid off.
>>26537015>Amazon doesn't produce anything of value. All they do is repackage goods sold by third parties and stamp their logo on.I'm pretty sure it wasn't until Amazon blew up that I had the ability to receive reliable same day or next day delivery of whatever I want or need.That's a value. You could argue others could have done that too but nobody really did before Amazon.
>>26537015Its all bullshit, congrats for figuring it out. The only value that we actually have are all the resources that this glorious planet has given us. The rest is just more sophisticated tool making. No value at all. If you break it down, mankind doesnt need any of the shit that currently forms society and civilization.
>>26534530If he's here he might just be a cryptowhale.
>>26537031Here's a good historical example of a gamma squeeze I particularly like.
>>26537031There's always going to be huge spikes that disappear immediately but generally you'll have a week to sell at inflated prices.
>>26535533REalistically where do you see this in a month?
>>26536365a dog might sometimes growl at its owner, and still it follows his every order
>>26534779>I don't understand how it makes any sense for the market to stop during crashes or high volatility.Because 90% of the stock market runs on high frequency trading with bots taking decisions that are one bad input away from crashing the market in mere minutes.
>>26534677IF the market collpases, then land if worthless. You think people are going to care about either paying rent or caring if you have paper with your name on it for some field?
>>26537015Ford has wayyy more revenue, operating income and net income than tsla
>>26537407But Ford is the big gay. You seen that electric """Mustang"""?
>>26536793I absolutely did and still do, you filthy ki....kids
>>26537296r/worldnews are always calling out the kikes on their bs. the more left someone leans the more they hate the big nose gang
>>26537115High IQ post
>>26537444Mach E is based and will blow Tesla out of the water
>>26533542What part of "great reset" did you not understand goy? We reset you into the proletariat class and resume ruling with an iron fist.
>>26537744It looks like a gay Model X.
>>26534870difficult to store properly over a long time
>>26534462https://www.highshortinterest.com/
>>26534671I'm also gonna add KOSS to this list. Up 80% for the trading day plus another 60% after market hours.
>>26533295literally loled
>>26537508lol thats fucking rich. Cuckit is an obedient bitchboy shithole.
Imagine boomers seeing these numbers, BTC 7%, 500% YTD, GME 50% and up, BB 20% and up. Everything else moves 1% or less up or down. They're thinking they've been defrauded their whole lives.
>>26533432Once algorithmic microtrades took over that was the end. It's less a market and more a science.
>>26538438they are already saying that this should be illegal. can't wait for them to say that small people shouldn't be able to enter the stock market and see it backfirehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZHTm0N59Rc
Why didn't I just buy GME... why am I all in crypto
>>26538476Shut the fuck up retard you don't sound smart and your post doesn't make sense.
>>26537508go back then.
we are at the media/enthusiasm phase>>26533159this all sounds like new paradigm stuff
>>26537115I think you are onto something.
>>26538984Sorry but bots are the bane of a truly free market. That goes for crypto too.
>>26534310by offering a new issue of shares (which dilutes the current outstanding shares)
>>26538438I know for a fact my uncle closed all his investment accounts because of cryptocurrencies. >I buy 100k worth of stonks and get a 10% return if that. Anon I'm telling you, you should buy crib toe current seas. I bought BTC, ETH in 2018 and now I have great returns. Stocks are a scam to make sure only rich people stay rich. He bought 10k BTC at 12k and 10k ETH somewhere in 2018. Love the old boomer.
>>26537015>Amazon doesn't produce anything of valueI don’t like amazon but this is dumb. They produce a plethora of “amazon basics” products from clothes to electronics to now even food. AWS services are used everywhere in businesses all over the country. Amazon prime produces video content that gets general praise. They’re not just a marketplace anymore they produce tons of shit
>>26537671>>26539151I literally wrote my thesis on this (sort of thing). Look into Lacan's theories of jouissance. Zizek (I believe) was the first to make the explicit link between excess enjoyment (jouissance) and Marx's theories on excess value (capital), I just happened to be doing an analysis of how online message boards functioned back in 2017 and it occurred to me that these boards effectively mimic the way that capital is privately exchanged without the constraints of social bonds. Of course, anonymous online message boards are a pretty new phenomenon so I don't think anyone thought of this before. I'm sure there is an entire phenomenon to be discovered or theorised on (or whatever) relating to private exchange of excess [whatever]. Maybe blockchain is even more interesting in that regard but I'm too much of a brainlet to give that a go. I was kind of joking about that post before (archery post) though. It's probably nothing more than a funny observation than anything actually pertinent.
>>26539487He's fuckin' stacked now, so based
>>26533159True short squeezism has never been tried
>>26537115>I actually should have predicted this some time ago. This is deep theory but online message boards effectively have their own ideological economies that operate with identical mechanisms to capital markets, except that where excess value is to capitalism, excess enjoyment is to online message boards. That these two economies should begin to merge is surprising and interesting but not totally unpredictable. There's a reason why a lot of people online have made a fuckload of money with almost no understanding of markets and that's because they already invest in the ideological markets of these message boards. The two have become connected and that's why their investments have paid off.based hi-IQ poster. pls post more thoughts
>>26538008>difficult to store properly over a long timeNo it's not you sheltered little faggot, what is fuel stabalizer?t.literally just fire up a tractor with half a decade old fuel.
>>26538839>muh foreign powersIT'S THE RUSSIANS
>>26534870Why do you prepper types yearn for the apocalypse so much
>>26534677ammo
>>26539544He kinda is. He got divorced and gave her a car. That's that. Kept the kids, kept his business, kept his house. I don't know how he pulled it off.
Boomers / hedgies seething that us plebs figured out how to win.My sides.
>>26536811what indicator is that?
>>26539535so shitposting stockmemes prepares for acting on clownworld market?
>>26540009Is this really a big deal?
>>26538839Hahaha - you can't invest in stocks GOY. You must be a wagie and let us deflate your worthless fiat.Don't even think abut cypto either.
>>26534677Ammunition, porn, tobacco and gold. I currently have 2 TB of porn I’ve collected over about a decade on M-discs. You’ll all have to check in with Uncle Dusty whenever you want to coom in the post-collapse world.
>>26540109its this time because the jewes got jewed this time. nothing changed except this
>>26540160How is it possible that the jews have never been jewed before? Why did it take 100 years to figure this out?
>>26537115So if I'm good at farming (you)s, I'll be good at investing?
>>26540225they got jewed big time once around 80 years ago, really upped their game since
>Citron publicly claims you should short GME>holds a fuckton of GME shorts>due to their reputation decreasing stock prices are almost a self-fulfilling prophecy>we're not in fucking 2000 anymore, information travels fastFINALLY this fucking scam and legal pump&dump scheme blew up in someone's face.There's nothing wrong with hedge funds and other institutions, but there's something massively wrong with this kind of shit. I hope they bleed to death and we get some resemblance of market efficiency back.
>>26534425Its much more than that.This is the logical conclusion of the fiat dream.It might be a bit scary at first, but you will learn to love it.The Fed doesn’t know how to invest money such that it develops the real world. Banks, on the other hand, have the knowledge and skills, so, they get the privilege of borrowing money with 0% interest, only to lend it out with interest. In exchange for this privilege, banks oblige the US government by buying treasury bonds, enabling deficit spending, knowing full well that the government will never even attempt to pay them off.
>>26540370This is what I don't get, how is that any different at all from the ludicrous and obvious P&Ds in crypto? It's blatant manipulation and abuse.
>>26536727Shit is pumping after-hours, excited to see tomorrow
>>26540370>Scaring large institutions with blades in the dark. A rare but funny moment in history.
Jim is a based jew!
>>26533255everyone knows that ALL shorts close as buys. ALL shorts are a guarantee to buy and drive the price up. It was stupid of any investment firm to get comfy in an overshorted stock but they're so used to colluding with one another they don't think about risk.
>>26533395Holy based
>>26533159>somebody is doing the raping
>>26537115this post was enlightening, thank you anon
>>26540434It's okay when they do it.
>>26540434the difference this one is the goy fucking up the jews. when hedgefunds do it is alright because it is the jews fucking up the goy using a giant institution
>>26537015>Amazon doesn't produce anything of value.They're a service and they do it better than anyone, so far. You may not be old enough to remember how shitty and scammy ecommerce was before Amazon. Nowadays, the only people doing ecommerce and profiting by actually providing value through physical products are people who cater to high-end products and consumers. Everyone else is just slapping their label on China crap and attempting to deceive their customers in some unique way because they don't actually have a unique value proposition. All early ecommerce was that. I got ripped off 1000 times. You can imagine what happened to boomers. Amazon has fixed most of that, and there's value there.
>>26540009Leftoids are parasites.
>>26539608I wish I had the brains to explain it properly. Humans are interesting, because they don't just enjoy things, they enjoy them to excess. A monkey enjoys watching someone slip on a banana skin, but humans enjoy, not only the act of watching someone slip on a banana skin but also the idea of someone slipping on a banana skin, which creates an excess of enjoyment (called jouissance by Lacan because of something to do with jouir which means to cum in French, don't ask why). This enjoyment isn't limited to humorous things; we enjoy lots of things. We even enjoy hating things. In everyday ordinary society we have social bonds, meaning that our ability to exchange this excess (sharing our enjoyment, which is something people always do) is limited, however online where we are largely, if not totally, anonymous these social bonds are no longer present. In fact, value is exchanged even more effectively online. You enjoy a person's post, you 'buy' it. Someone enjoys your post and gives you a (you) and you've sold off some of yours. When we post and read posts we are simply engaging in acts of exchange of enjoyment, except in an extremely efficient way. Unlike in a social scenario, where value is exchanged under the conditions of social bonds, everyone can effectively 'buy' into whatever other people are enjoying. This is why you end up with crazy shit like Trump getting meme'd so hard in 2016 and other memes that have gained so much traction online all over the world.
>>26540009>seethingwojack.jpegFeels good being 60% up in a week on memes.
>>26533395Extremely based.
>>26534831kek i love this board
>>26538984mate, firms have been hiring genius level PhD mathematicians to come up with bot algorithms to make high rate micro trades for years.
Going long and hodling a stock is shameful if hedge funds are short on it
>>26533295lmfao this
>>26534480I PRAY for the reddit elves to target AMC>in at 7
>>26540225>>26540356Underrated.
>>26536811oh yes I remember all those sweet child hood memories I made at TEVA PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRIES SPON ADS EACH REP 1 ORD SHS 1 W
>>26540777WSB's gonna be targeting a lot of different stocks with all the money they made today. Also, checked.
>>26540777they can't really, anyone talking about stock under 50b market cap is insta-ban
>>26540009>get the government involved NOW>shut it downtop kek. fuck these people. they should be happy for a bunch of people figuring this shit out
>>26533846Based
>>26533159can someone explain what shorting mean to a layperson like myself...
>>26540705How this relates to capital more specifically: back in the day people exchanged 20 potatoes for a bit of beef or for a tool or some pussy or whatever. That changed to currency but the principle of exchange under social bonds remained: I give you this and you give me that. We still see this all around us. But capital went beyond that system and said 'hey you can buy whatever stock purely privately and watch its value grow and then sell it', an exchange completed detached from social conditions. Leading to unprecedented wealth for capitalist economies but also leading to huge boom and bust cycles as the economic system grapples with its internal inconsistencies (and the rest is all Marx and so on).
>>26540851The pulled a pump and dump scam on a regular boomer stock. Nobody understands how this is possible since the stock market is not supposed to be manipulated like that by the average person. Manipulating the markets is reserved only for the long nose tribe!
>>26540851Borrowing shares that are worth a lot and selling them, with the intent of buying them back cheaper later to repay that debt. So like selling 500 BTC at $42k and waiting for it to drop to $5k before you pay back.
>>26540767Ahahahahahahahaha
>>26533448nail on the headassholes
>>26540767This is the equivalent of an obese purple haired dyke shouting RAAAAAAPE when a man tells her something she disagrees with.
>>26540851If you think a stock is going up, you just buy it and sell it later for profit.If you think it is going down, you lend out shares of this stock, sell them at the current high price, wait. then you buy the same amount back later at a lower price and give them back to the person that lended them out to you. you are contractually obligated to give them back the same amount of shares.
>>26540970and that second case is called shorting the stock
>>26540767The audacity of these kikes. I swear this is why they get booted out of countries
>>26540009>Ban online forums! We need to turn the clock back to 1985!!Cannot wait for all the neolib faggot boomers to die off.
>>26539487He bought 120 million dollars worth of BTC because he was sick of not being rich enough and wanted to take a risk on something that had just catastrophically shit the bed?Your story is off.>>26539964If your aunts and uncles aren't younger than you, he divorced back before activist judges were making examples of men. You only had to give your wife what it would take for her to fight her way back into the middle class if she worked 9 to 5. In the 70s and 80s, she could be expected to do this as a high school dropout with home economics skills.
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>>26540970No one has ever been able to adequately explain to me the beneficial effects of allowing this type of aggressive anticompetitive behavior to happen.
to all the people saying they will ban itno they have found out moderating something to death is the better strategy, because everyone is still dependent on the platforms that host contentbe it either twitter, facebook reddit or even hereafter 2016 pol got neutered due to the heavy handed moddingbut today is different, pol back then didn't have money to run its own thingnow we have a group of internet autists who broke the system and have gotten money in the processat some point someone will break away from the centralised platforms and create a decentralised content deliverablejust as defi was unthinkable 10 years ago, now all those innovations are allowing for anons on the internet to become truly independent of any structural oversightthem going after wsb is only going to accelerate the process, but in the meantime we at biz might be collateral damage, but they cannot stop rich people from finding ways of talking to each other on the internet without killing the whole internet and can't do that because the economy depends on it, they really painted themselves into a corner here
>>26540970So you are just betting on the future value of the stock? Or do you actually own the stock the entire time?
>>26534870There's a FEMA guideline for making diy gas in emergency
>>26541068No shit he bought 10k usd worth of BTC and 10k USD worth of eth in 2018
thank you for your explanation on shorting stock...
>>26541120>at some point someone will break away from the centralised platforms and create a decentralised content deliverableThis is something that could literally save the world.
>>26537224I thought the Hunt brothers actually lost money on that
>>26540872Thanks zizek
>>26540851>buy shares and 10>shares go up to 20>you and your buddies start to mass sell to devalue it to like 5>you and your buddies buy everything backyou are essentially fucking entire businesses due this shit tactic being completely legal and fine. what WSB did was to buy the shorting and hold. which fucked the entire con since the snakes were forced to pay back the people who bought the shortage and are holding onto it. holding the shares increased the value and essentially wallstreet got out fucking skilled and are everyone behind the game stop shorting is bleeding money and going billions in collective debt
>>26541135its more than betting. once they were lended out to you, you do actually own them, but you have to give them back before or on a set date.
>>26539819how is he sheltered for not having used some fuel preserving chemical lol
>>26541113theres people that think line goes up. theres people that think line goes down. people like to bet against eachother. one profits, profits get taxed and directly shipped over to israel.
>>26541113you dont have to explain why things are allowed, you explain why they shouldnt be. but I already knew reddit trannys wouldnt understand freedom
>>26541213They did, actually, because the government bogged them.>On January 7, 1980, in response to the Hunts' accumulation, the exchange rules regarding leverage were changed; COMEX adopted "Silver Rule 7", which placed heavy restrictions on the purchase of commodities on margin. The Hunt brothers had borrowed heavily to finance their purchases, and, as the price began to fall again, dropping over 50% in just four days, they were unable to meet their obligations, causing panic in the markets.
>>26537150When I was 5 I ordered a t-shirt out of Lego magazine and it took 6 weeks to arrive. Now I don't even pay for shipping and it still arrives basically next day because it's more expensive for these big companies to ship free packages slower than it is to just move everything lightning fast. Amazon also provides insane liquidity for material goods.I'd still like to see them broken up though. They need to spin off the electronics (Kindle) from the retailer (website) and cloud computing platform (AWS). Just having AWS and the retailer together is allowing them to basically perform internal market dumping and it's almost certainly illegal in the same general sense that Microsoft was doing illegal bullshit in the 90s.
>>26541275I have a bunch of farmer relatives, they all think you're sheltered if you haven't done farm things and cant comprehend why someone wouldn't need a tractor
>>26540767LMAO these kikes want to put all of Gamestop's employees out of jobs and cause their families suffering and their defense is crying "muh children muh families"? These people are soulless husks without humanity. How did they get entrenched in our societies so deeply.
>>26541395>These people are soulless husks without humanity. How did they get entrenched in our societies so deeply.By being soulless husks without humanity. Evil is rewarded in most scenarios.
>>26541027>>26540767Jesus. Just imagine. The suddenly one day for no reason turn towards National Socialist may one day be attributed to literally fucking GameStop.
>>26541120Extremely based and bullish for defi. Within ten years securities will be listed on defi exchanges.
>>26541120>at some point someone will break away from the centralised platforms and create a decentralised content deliverablethat is called the internet pre-2010 where people used different types of forums to talk about different topics. and each topic had hundreads-thousands of different forums hosted by different people.
>>26533542good. it will drive even more money into crypto.
>>26540705>>26540872interesting. Where do you think this trend will lead to? I'm interested in how the mechanics of capitalism with high frequency trading and 4g internet access influences how we function as social animals. Watching cosmopolis was pretty cool, I recommend watching it. Post more brah, this is good stuff
>>26541135They borrow shares and sell them. They then hope that the price goes down, so that they can re-buy them cheaper.They hand back the shares they borrowed and pocket the difference in price (sell high, buy low).
>>26536793This time the holocaust will be real.
>>26537115meme magic explained
>>26540814They manufacture a couple drugs that got my dad through cancer so I have some memories with them.
>>26533542How would they sell that though? Sorry you can't invest in stocks. Only rich people can do that, and we will print fiat to pump their bags as well.
>>26538184Thanks anon
>>26533295keked hardthanks based shitposter
>>26533159Just put 6k in. Will sell my 40k life pin tomorrow to buy April calls if it doesn’t rocket up too much. Fuck the market makers
>>26541485>fucking with gamestop stonks somehow causes hitler 2.0 to rise to poweri don't think my sides would be able to handle it
>>26537115Based and bogpilled
>>26534425Yeah, it's the last couple of years of the fiat money system. Hyper-inflationary fiat collapse on the way. Who knows what comes after.
>>26540767Translation: OYYY VEYYYYY THE FILTHY CATTLE ARE MAKING MONEY SHUT IT DOWN I NEED THE CATTLE IN MY CAGES 12 HOURS A DAY 6 DAYS A WEEK OYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY GEVALT MUH GORILLIAN SHEKELS THIS IS LIKE 6 MILLION HOLOCAUSTS
>>26540767>YOU FILTHY FUCKING GOYIM I WAS GOING TO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY ON THIS SCAM! YOU WILL PAY FOR THIS!
>>26541389more like the sheltered ones are those born to a family that owns land not having to wage for a megacorp every day
>>26533159Just gay meta-fud. This was just weaponized retardation.
>>26540705good stuff
> no, for really real this time, things will never be the same> it wasn't true the last thousand times, but this time it definitely is
>>26538476Algo traders get out competed by humam run accounts constantly
>>26541492simply yeswe weren't joking when we said in the end you wont have to cash out>>26541497low iq takeback then it worked because it wasn't under attackit were really simple systems that had no defense against the big boysnow the big boys have moved in and fucked shit upso the internet autists are now going to build systems that are defended against attacklook at parler it played by the rules and got nuked by first removing it from the app stores and then by amazon dumping it of its serverswhat comes next is going to be hardend against this, just like crypto makes censoring money transactions a thing of the pastalso unthinkable 12 years ago, fuck swift
What’s next after gme??
>>26540851bobo thinks the price of an asset x will drop. bobo borrows someone else's asset x in exchange for an IOU and sells it at the going rate. the asset, however, goes up, because bobo is always wrong. bobo then commits suicide using either bleach, gas tank, or sitting in the car in the garage with the engine turned on.
>>26540705i unironically slipped on a banana peel in a locker room
>>26534870Gas expires quickly.
>>26541754>documentaries in a 100 years will start with all he wanted to do was play some video games...Hitler was a artist. 100% future Hitler is a gamer rising up.
>>26541113Person A wants to buy sugar. Person B wants to hold on to his sugar because he thinks it will be worth more in the future. Person C thinks sugar will not be worth more in the future, so C borrows a pound of sugar from B, sells it to A at the current market price, and agrees to compensate B the price of the sugar at some point in the future.Person C is shorting sugar, but they're also effectively facilitating a transfer of sugar between A and B.
>>26541105someone literally watched hypernormalisation and then added a few things onto it. Very 14 year old. Very much sad.
>>26540851Bobo wants green line to go down, bobo borrows shares and sells them with an agreement to buy them back at a later date, bobo does this again and again until the stock is going down simply because bobo is selling so many shares, bobo eventually has sold some of the shares twice meaning he owes more shares than exist, mumu notices this and starts to buy up the shares bobo sold, the price goes up; bobo can no longer rebuy his lent out shares, and bobo seethes
>>26541551Dunno. I just get theory but I'm not particularly imaginative. Certainly, 'social' media has already been around for long enough to see the effects of this phenomenon already. Although social medias aren't exactly the same as anonymous message boards in the sense that they do operate under conditions of social bonds to a degree. But I'm not particularly positive. I think we'll just see more censorship and regulation of online exchanges like this if they continue to potentially destabilize our current socioeconomic model. Money talks.
There is literally no reason not to lend reddit our sword in this.
>>26533542I would assume that Antifa would have a large influx of new /biz/raeli agents join their organization. They would then be a loud minority within the group to direct peaceful protest towards bankers and their associates for keeping regular people poor. With how volatile things are now in the USA, this would no doubt happen. They shouldn't take away regular people's chance to advance in the world.
>people haven’t figured it out yet The internet is proto-AI. You guys figured out how to game a system that’s designed specifically to stop people like you from gaming it. We are evolving. We are the Jew now.
>>26542146>They shouldn't take away regular people's chance to advance in the world.People will own nothing.They will eat the bugs.They will survive on government gibs.They will live in the pod.And they will unironically be happy.You underestimate how retarded the average person is.
>>26541389>you haven't done farm thingsWhat's that? Filling in a form to collect a subsidy or fucking an animal in the dead of night?
>>26542050Third Hyrule when
>>26540705This all makes sense to me fren. Good thoughts.
>>26533934your weight has nothing to do with the impact of your trades
>>26541919low iq is thinking that some messiah needs to arise and make a new platform to compete with the rest that let's you do whatever. back then fb, twitter and the others had barely any power over the net. the popularization of smartphones and giving normal people access to the internet funneled normalfags to big corps due to the apps that came pre installed on phones.if anything you should be making your own fucking server and forum. otherwise any new attempt will have government agencies and big corp ready to fuck with it. NSA is responsible for all the defense and attack application that we use you brainlet. wanna cry was literaly made by them and reported as "stolen by a hacker"
>>26541027Thanks for the free rent, goy
>>26540705saved
>>26541485You have noticed that /biz/s definition of "the jews" are different from national socialists definition? Has nobody here noticed that Nazis and /biz/ thinks each other is pozzed?
>>26536811retard
>>26533934buy amc and skt
>>26542340>low iq is thinking that some messiah needs to arise and make a new platform to compete with the rest that let's you do whateverwell for 500 boomer who is satoshi nakamotoi find it funny that this concept on a crypto board has to be explained to youthe unthinkable that crypto did to finance is going to happen to 'social media' simply because people want to talk to each other uncensored
>>26534199Amc and SKT make that the holy 5
>>26540009>Literally Shut. It. Down.My sides! Fuck these kikes.
>>26534746>Precious metals*mines astroid* nothing personell kid.
>>26540370That should be the mai takeaway the media focuses on here. It was already a bad practice how hedge funds would announce who to short and would at least partially cause the shorting activity that followed. If anyone doesn't like redditors announcing you should go long on GME then you really shouldn't like all the hedge funds who do the same in reverse.
>>26536727AMC, SKT, and for some reason NOK (nok doesn't even havbe short intrest but it'll meme too)
>>26533934GME has not even spiked yet, it will hit $300+ I guarantee it. The shortsellers are doubling down right now, we are playing a game of chicken and they have everything to lose.
>>26535445>Good news: /biz/ can potentially be the new base of operations for WSBFuck redditFuck niggersFuck kikesFuck tranniesFuck jannies
>>26536727NOKKKK
>>26533159It’s the meme economy firing on all cylinders.
>>26542765Are you telling me it wasn't just citron but many hedge funds who are on the shorting GME game? That's pretty hilarious. That said, fuck Nazis and fuck jannies.
>>26533159adapt or be priced out. this is the new generation of investment
>>26542878what is a jannie, pls explain anon
>>26542878They were shorting more than 100% of the available shares lol. They basically have no choice but to keep losing money if people refuse to sell their shares
>>26542967A junior moderator.
>>26537994The Model X already looks gay. Imagine putting the Mustang name on that shit.
>>26534677Guns, ammo, booze and a source of drinkable water. A boat would also be good
>>26533295Kek
>>26534425It’s bigger than that because we’re going through a generational shift. Boomers are croaking and that money is flowing to the younger generations. Millennials currently own like 5% of national wealth. Boomers owned 25% when they were the same age. It’s such a steep wealth gradient that it’s more accurate to call what’s coming a revolution rather than wealth transfer. It’s like throwing a bowl of ice into a deep fryer.
>>26534677
>>26542144>Thinking Gondor should help the Elves
>>26533934Shit it’s Alex Wice
>>26540767Lmao
>>26533395Now do it with gold and silver.
>>26535097The saxon began to hate
>>26542247>An A.I escapes to anonymous tibetan weaving forums>Once we looked into the darkness>Now the darkness looks back at us.
>>26537115Balaji the ex coinbase guy talks about these forums being the new 'nationalities' where you can have more than one 'nationality' . Thanks to crypto and the like these forum nationalities can have there own token and have their own rules and taxes/fees and you can kinda live outwith location based governance.
>>26541485
>>26542144Tell me. Why should we ride to the aid of those who did not come to ours? What do we owe nigger lovers?
>>26542993how can more than 100 % shares be shorted? that sounds like some strange (((economics)))?
>>26537508go back newfag, communism and liberalism are the same exact thing.
>>26543232They wound the financial jew. It is the jew that corrupted them in the first place. Help them bite their master.
>>26534341You guys need to do gold and silver. You'd be going against big time institutions with billions of dollars to lose. We've already got them up the ropes. If we can get silver to go up five dollars you would trigger the mother of all short squeezes, the ultimate apocalypse. You'd be saying fuck you to the banks, the federal reserve, the government, fiat paper currency everything and the good news is that we're almost there guys. These institutions that short gold and silver are literally at the breaking point. They are starting to hemorrhage money. Billions of dollars. JP Morgan already threw in the towel. Best part?, with gold and silver you don't lose money, it's literally money. Silver is volatile yeah but gold retains it's value.
>>26537115theres no theory to this, losing traders make money in a bull market, thats the the way its always been. people in ops pic are over thinking the market and mess up their capital trying to save it instead of going with the herd. losing traders make money in a bull market
>>26543252Funny, because according to most right-wingers, the nazis are leftists.
>>26536450lel this. 4chan memes really do manifest in reality
>>26533159How can I do my part in fucking institutions up? Look up options? Buy GME?
>>26543462>Buy GME?This
>>26543357suppressing the value of precious is backstopped by the fedyou are not going to win that fight until the usd keels overthe usgov will do everything before giving that much power back to china and russia, who own a lot of precious
>>26542137Thank you for your DD, based zizek posting archer boy/ archer posting zizek
I have a question, dont the jews make the money when they get the shorts back? who the fuck lends shares?
>>26543609Bitcoin will start the end of precious metals, asteroid mining will close the book on them for good.
Brainlet here, I thought they just bought back their own stock, to artificially boost their stock, then people sold to take advantage of the bump with no intentions of holding onto it.What am I missing here?