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Wall Street Insider here

The real reason why trading was halted and retail brokers limited buying was because the clearinghouse between firms that settles transactions believed the margin calls, which were valued at $10-$15 BILLION, that could be executed if the stock hit $500, would completely WIPE OUT several institutions. This was not about one brokerage or hedge fund. THIS WAS ABOUT THE ENTIRE FUCKING MARKET. THE ENTIRE NYSE WAS ILLIQUID AND WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO FULFILL THE BUYS OR PAYMENTS IF OPTIONS WERE EXERCISED

>> No.26927715

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RH4XKP55fM&feature=youtu.be

>> No.26928248

>>26927659

You're not a Wallstreet insider retard. You just got that information from CNBC news. They literally broadcasted that information to the entire population. Fucking retard

>> No.26928402

>>26927659
Good, let the market fall and crypto rise in it's place.
Thanks Biden.

>> No.26928608

shit money not ever real

>> No.26928856

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BkWRhqFy9w

>> No.26928879

>>26927659
THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE COLLAPSED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS IN AN ACTUALLY FREE MARKET, INSTEAD THEY CHEATED AND REINFORCED AN OLIGARCHY. FUCK YOU. THIS IS THEFT ON A MASSIVE SCALE.

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>>26927659
Epic

>> No.26928995

>>26927659
Fuck it, crash the stock market. Give me my fucking money.

>> No.26929151

>>26928248
This post made me laugh more than it should

>> No.26929175

>>26927715
"It is illegal and manipulative to create a squeeze."

Not it isn't. You guys on wall street do shit like this all the time. FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING JEW.

>> No.26929261

>>26927659
$15 billion is chump change these days. There's no way for that amount to have any significant effect on the equity markets.

>> No.26929327

>>26927659
Total bullshit and hilarious. Nice shitpost.

>> No.26929362

>>26929261
Good.poont here, btw. If we're talking about wiping out a bunch of firms and Wall Street itself we're talking trillions

>> No.26929465

>>26927659
>The entire NYSE is worth less than GAMESTOP
As it should be.

WE LIKE THE STOCK.

>> No.26929689

>would completely WIPE OUT several institutions
Yes that was the whole point of the operation

>> No.26929885

>>26927659
Yes. We know. Thats the whole point.

>> No.26929934

>>26928879
>>26928995
>>26929175
YOU WOULD HAVE GOTTEN PAID YOU FUCKING DUMBASSES

GET THAT THROUGH YOUR CHICKEN TENDER SKULL

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE RIGHT AND THE PAPER SAYS YOU MADE MILLIONS

THE PERSON ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRANSACTION CANT PAY YOU BECAUSE THEY ARE BANKRUPT

FUCKING IDIOTS

DO YOU WANT TO GET PAID OR NOT?

>> No.26929962

>>26927659
Outsider here. The insider says true stuff.

>> No.26930074

>>26929934
YOU WOULD(NT) HAVE GOTTEN PAID YOU FUCKING DUMBASSES

>> No.26930080

>>26929934
Honestly don't even give a fuck. Let it burn.

>> No.26930114

>>26927659
so what happens tomorrow? buy?

>> No.26930177

>>26927659
so they fucked up and deserve to pay the price. Who gets to regulate and decide this bullshit?

>> No.26930241

>>26930114
Nah too late. Buy ammo and MREs

>> No.26930272

>>26929934
Paid? I want you to suffer

>> No.26930330

>>26927659
Why doesn't the clearinghouse have a 6 month emergency fund?

Are they totally irresponsible?

>> No.26930332

>>26927659
We presumed as much. We want our pound of flesh for 2007-8 and the crap that has since ensued. The greedy scum has learned nothing. We are braying for blood.

>> No.26930387

>>26929934
>DO YOU WANT TO GET PAID OR NOT?
No, we make more money with crypto. You are just for the lulz

>> No.26930412

>>26930241
I asked OP

>> No.26930534

>>26927659
HII,RTX, and GD on the move next few months??? I want to make that war daddy money when we go to syria.

>> No.26930636

>>26930074
Nobody wants to get paid, unlike you, shill.
People want to see the bignoses burn for their actions. And burn they will. BURN THEY WILL.

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>>26927659
We understand the logic. You're not telling us why they're knowingly manipulating that outcome despite regulations in place specifically banning that behavior?

>> No.26930826

>>26928248
Lol

>> No.26930922

>>26927659
who gives a shit? bail out middle American workers, fuck walstreet

>> No.26930962

>>26929362
"Wiping out" implies evaporation, as if all that wealth vanishes. That's not what's happening. The people who chose to risk it are being told to follow through on their obligations to their counter-parties. This is wealth transfer between consenting parties.

>> No.26931024

>he thinks it's for the money
fuck kikes fuck bankers fuck jannies

>> No.26931058

>>26927659
>>26927715
>>26929934
>>26930074
Burn in hell.

>> No.26931115
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26931115

>>26927659
GOOD

>> No.26931360

>>26929934
"getting paid?" It sounds like you don't understand what stock is.

Stock is an accounting of rights. The rights associated with most stocks include a vote in the company's ongoing governance, and another right is commonly to receive dividends. The price of these rights floats naturally, and has no effect on the utility of each unit of stock. The price is merely the barrier to entry for those who with to exercise the rights of stock ownership.

To make material decisions based entirely on price and expected movement is called "speculation," and is not relevant to an analysis of our behavior. The needs of gamestop and its shareholders are met with or without the NYSE and the ability of speculators to fluidly enter and exit derivative positions.

>> No.26931370

Here is an eye opener. Maybe it help Op an others. Many of us here at /biz/ have enough money now to do what we want. So losing a million isn't all that big a deal. Trying to ask if we want to make money when we have the knife at your throat is naive at best. You do not know what you are dealing with here. Do some research.

>> No.26931453

>>26927659
That’s what it seemed like, banks were down 8-10% on the week, before today. Who knew GameStop was such a big position on all their balance sheets? Or, at least they are so interconnected, one or two big firms takes out everyone

>> No.26931578

>>26927659
Time to liquidate the parasites on wall street.

>> No.26931715

>>26930114
Buying will be allowed in certain structures and quantities to ensure that both parties and the clearinghouse remain solvent so they can pay you your winnings.

>>26930709
They are manipulating it because if they do not several firms will go bankrupt and most of winning trades will not be paid out. They can't pay you money they don't have.

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26931721

>>26927659
SO

WHAT?????????

>> No.26931725

>>26927659
Fuck them. Honestly, those greedy fucks have been doing borderline illegal trading for decades and they completely deserve this. I hope my retail investors becoming Empowered and institutions can fuck off and should be put under much more scrutiny.

>> No.26931775

>>26927659
good, hopefully the people who still have their shit hodling on uncucked platforms are enough to crush them.

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26931942

>>26929934
Can't believe I'm posting a reddit meme

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26932065

Gamestop
Game Stop
Game Over
Endgame

>> No.26932071

>>26930330
This, you are telling me this one position is big enough to blow up their entire portfolio?!?!? These people are losing it, what terrible portfolio management.
You guys know what this means right

>> No.26932377

>>26927715
OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN

>> No.26932389

>>26930330
Not about the clearinghouse. It is about the parties on both sides that interact with the clearinghouse. The clearinghouse raised liquidity and margin requirements on both parties due to volatility. If one party can't meet the new requirements the clearinghouse suspends trading in that security.

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>>26927659
Good, fuck hedgies, they can suffer like the rest of us. Dubs for splatterzones below all heddge funds

>> No.26932500

>>26929934
>thinking this is about money

>> No.26932551

>>26931942
It isn't about a message either. First and foremost it is about freedom. Second of all, it is about showing the whole world what goes on in fact, and how this system of butt-buddies allows for them to get away with (almost) everything to make a buck.
And thirdly, do not forget... it is for the lulz.
And to add to that, they will soon realize they are outpaced too. 5-10 bn usd ain't much compared to millions of well off internet autists. We do better research than you faggots. We own u. Every time we so wish.

>> No.26932597

>>26927659
$10-$15 billion is not enough to wipe out several institutions. LARP harder Reddit fag

>> No.26932687

>>26929934
I want them to burn for their crimes. Nothing but their broken corpses will satisfy me. not after what those greedy fucks have done to the West

>> No.26932750

>>26932597
It actually is.

>> No.26932765

>>26929934
You’re an idiot and don’t understand what shirt selling is. The debt the hedge funds owe isn’t to the people buying their own shares right now retard

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26932922

>>26929934
It's not about the money

It's about sending a message

>> No.26933375

>>26932922
Exactly. They would make you liquidate assets to pay them back in full

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>>26929934
>he thinks it's about the money

>> No.26933466

Why blame /biz/ instead of the fags who sold naked shorts?

>> No.26933758

>>26932065
as an avid browser of >>>/x/ I must say there is absolutely zero chance that it's a coincidence that that's the stock responsible for this, clear message from the elites

>> No.26934017

>>26933758
Have you thought about the possibility that not they picked? Seriously... please... q shit back to /pol/ and all the other nonsense back to /x/
Thank you.

>> No.26934210

>>26934017
of course I've thought about it, and rightfully concluded that there's zero chance of that
this is what has been chosen to stop the game

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>>26934017

>> No.26934818

>>26934210
Your conclusion contradicts facts though.

>> No.26934939

>>26927659
>THIS WAS ABOUT THE ENTIRE FUCKING MARKET. THE ENTIRE NYSE WAS ILLIQUID AND WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO FULFILL THE BUYS OR PAYMENTS IF OPTIONS WERE EXERCISED
then they are shit at working in finance, you have to be a mongoloid to let your market turn to such retardation

>> No.26935089

>>26934939
Calm down. You and I would be the same way. U get used to shit working until it doesn't.

>> No.26935181

>>26927659
Wow, that's incredible OP!
It reminds me of my dad, who works for Nintendo.
He said the EXACT SAME THING about the video game industry! go figure

>> No.26935237

>>26934818
no, it does not, it is in fact the only conclusion any reasonable human would make based on the facts
fact 1: there are elites manipulating society from high above Wall Street, they know exactly how people react to these types of squeezes and the outcomes, and play it accordingly
fact 2: they could have picked any stock for this operation, but "ironically" the stock is literally GameStop
what you are witnessing is the elites doing a controlled demolition of the stock market, as they regularly do
they are stopping the game

>> No.26935527

>>26934939
some are stupid, but the smartest ones are laughing all the way to the bank
they've made millions, some even billions, off this manipulation, and leave other suckers, the majority, to pick up the pieces of a collapsed market
it's not exactly anything new that there are people who thrive, prey, and profit under conditions of chaos

>> No.26935634

>>26935237
This is exactly where your mistake lies. They didn't pick. They naked shorted a whole bunch of stocks. So... who do you think picked GameStop?

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>>26929934
It's not about the money...

>> No.26935957

>>26935634
there is no mistake lying anywhere
yes, many stocks were and are shorted all the time, but GameStop in particular was chosen to be the one which triggers the collapse
>So... who do you think picked GameStop?
I believe I was quite clear on that: the elites

>> No.26936169

>>26935957
personally, I think trump's people are pulling a soros. constantly shat on for 5 years, and gamestop is the perfect opportunity to energize every male who came of age in the last 20 years.

>> No.26936266

>>26935957
You are beyond understanding and help. I will just let you believe what you want now, because you don't WANT to get it, due to whatever theories are tattooed to your brain by now.

>> No.26936429

>>26931715
but they can sell stock they dont have for money. pay your debts goyim

>> No.26936512

>>26929934
>he thinks this is about money

>> No.26937147

>>26936169
well, Trump and Soros both are puppets of the elites (which are not public), but what they are doing here is collapsing the market completely
>>26936266
I'm not sure what part of what I'm saying makes you respond in this irrational and emotional way
there are elites for whom this entire thing is a game, people who have so much wealth and power that anything which can be deemed a regular activity has completely ceased to satisfy them
they are the ones who control the stock market completely through mass psychology, bringing about the changes they desire whenever they desire through economic mechanisms, such as the gamma squeeze we're currently seeing
they always have fun announcing what they are doing in subtle ways, that's nothing new at all, and in this case they've picked GameStop as the stock to literally stop the game, it's literally their twisted sense of humor to do it like this (some theorize that they believe that by announcing what they're doing in this manner, they evade otherwise inescapable cosmic retribution, but this is somewhat more tenuous, and certainly not necessarily metaphysically sound)

>> No.26937173

>>26929934
No one will cry at your funeral after you dive head first onto the pavement from the top of a skyscraper you lot of greedy cheating wretches. We cheer it on.
As others have already said, its not about the money, but it sure is one helluva bonus.
The amount of contempt I feel towards your (((ilk))) I can hardly describe, and I can’t wait to see the news headlines on all your suicides because you all couldn’t handle not being able to rig the game in your favour just once.

>> No.26937378

>>26927659
We all know you're a larper but this is still probably true lmao.
How can people not see that the market is being held together by fucking duct tape right now.

>> No.26937453

Well maybe they shouldn't allow that sort of bullshit gambling if it has scope for destroying the country?

>> No.26937950

>>26929934
nobody wants to be paid with bullshit monopoly money burn it all down so we can get rid of the niggers and muslims and get back to white mans work

>> No.26937985

>>26937147
Yes. i don't disagree with you on that. BUT! I can tell you that I am pretty sure your elites did not pick that stock for us to shit on.

>> No.26938249

>>26937985
they are certainly not "my" elites in any meaningful sense, I personally strongly dislike what they are doing (although, given their power and wealth, it's impossible to know how that would have changed me)
but yes, they did indeed choose that particular stock to collapse the market, GameStop to stop the game of musical chairs that is the current clown stock market

>> No.26938380

Walmart insider here. The people in here right now are disgusting.

>> No.26938489

>>26937985
oh, and also, you are not "shitting on" anything
if anything, this is just more divide and conquer, since yes, the elites have set up a system where minor villains on Wall Street have gotten rich at your expense, and now you are lashing out at these parasites
however, the real controllers are way above and behind Wall Street crooks, so you're really not "shitting on" anyone meaningful in that sense when it comes to the people who are really responsible

>> No.26939059

>>26938249
What if I told you it was clear months ago that it will be GameStop?

>> No.26939266

>>26929934
>do you want to get paid?
nah, i want this broken and rigged system to collapse

>> No.26939294

>>26938489
How often must I tell u impatient faggots to be patient? I tell you with crypto, I tell you with everything. I am sick of it.

>> No.26939467

It's simple.

Make shorting illegal.

>> No.26939506

>>26939059
the elites probably picked it many years ago for this particular operation
to the right people, it has likely been "clear" for over a year that this would happen to the GameStop stock

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>>26929934
>DO YOU WANT TO GET PAID OR NOT?
Them all going bankrupt is good enough payment for me.

>> No.26939781

>>26929934
NO.

It's not about the money at this point. It's about revenge.

>> No.26940159

>>26939506
Yes, probably... if you say so

>> No.26940162

is this the black swan? will US equity markets collapse and will a CBDC USD come from this?

>> No.26940199

>>26928248
kek!

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>>26929934
You just don't get it, do you?

>> No.26940395

>>26929934

If they die, they die.

>> No.26940449

>>26940162
Not yet. But fiat paper money will be gone soon. Soon being to be determined. But in the end, I give you this advice: do not listen to /biz/ listen to the right things on /biz/. And that will really make you a fortune.

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>>26929934
I don't want any money. I want suffering.

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>>26940247
I'm only in it for the money and the memes. I could give a fuck if any change happens or not

>> No.26940663

>>26940449
Good sir which crypto will be new currency good sir moon mission?

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>>26930080
>>26930272
>>26930387
kek extremely based

>> No.26940791

>>26927659
WE CAN STAY BASED LONGER THAN THEY CANS TAY ILLIQUID

>> No.26940800

>>26927659
nice larp faggot

also we dont give a shit if it wipes out "institutions". They wipe us out all the time. fuck them.

>> No.26940811

>>26927659
>>26927715
Are we about to have REPO crisis 2 electric boogaloo?

>> No.26940847

>>26940592
Make enough money first on the crypto market, then you don't have to suffer. Unless you like it. In which case, you then can afford niggers to make you suffer.

>> No.26940990

>>26930272
based

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26941169

>>26940847
I have 400 dogecoin.

>> No.26941211

>>26935237
Well, let’s hope so because fuck the stock market

>> No.26941282

>>26940847
do you think the collapse of fiat currency will be deliberate and/or rushed? also what do you recommend I invest in? silver? gold?

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>>26940637
That's okay with me, anon. It only takes a few dedicated individuals to lead the wave. All I ask is that you trust us, and you follow.

>> No.26941489

>>26929934
>>26930074
Honestly I'd rather see the entire financial system collapse rather than get paid on my whopping 5 GME stack.

>> No.26941535

>>26929934
I want the curtain to be pulled on Capitalism for the world to see what an utter farce it actually is.

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26941539

>>26927715
Kek. This kike just flat out admitted the squeeze is working. It really is happening and gamestop of all fucking things is the cause

>> No.26941553

Tell your masters to set up suicide nets all across lower Manhattan heeb. You are all going to get massacred tommorow.

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>>26927659
insanity. this is really an all pretend machine for the rich to syphon money out of us.

>> No.26941861

>>26929934
>he thinks this is about the money

>> No.26941863

>>26931453
>Who knew GameStop was such a big position on all their balance sheets? Or, at least they are so interconnected, one or two big firms takes out everyone
We've known this since forever and it should have been fixed in 2008 but instead the government bailed everyone out, created massive moral hazard, and now the chickens are coming home to roost. /pol/ has been predicting this literally since 2012 when Ron Paul got robbed and it looked like DB would collapse and take everyone down with them.

>> No.26942003

>>26939467
Honestly capital gains in general should be taxed more heavily. It's one thing to invest your property into something you think is going to be a business with social value of some sort. But day trading is kind of a BS way to earn a living, at least in a society with as much economic inequality as ours. Investments aren't socially valuable activities if they just manipulate money by buying and selling over tiny timespans on prediction and meta predictions and meta meta predictions around some general market dynamics. Yeah it generates returns but it only works because other people do it and the businesses listed would generally be profitable anyway so you share in some of that, but there's comparatively very little of social value in these kinds of investments.

>> No.26942089

>>26941282
I hate to give advice. If I invest, and win or lose, it is my fucking success or fault. Telling you what to do is even worse. Because then I have that on my mind. Unless i want to give bad advice on purpose, which I don't do right now.
I think we will see the first cbdcs on earth in 2022. And regarding silver... it has been undervalued for decades... it is time it made a jump. But do not buy the actual thing. Invest in miners that farm gold, silver, platinum and so on all at the same mine.
If you must.
Because I made so much more with real estate, crypto and stocks. It ain't even close.

>> No.26942099

>>26939506
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

>> No.26942116

>>26927659
Dumb retard nigger

>> No.26942176

>>26927659
That's a man baby.

>> No.26942241

>>26942099
I'm not doing either, it's literally the truth
most major happenings, such as a stock market collapse, is planned many years in advance

>> No.26942262

>>26929934
Such a Melvin post

>> No.26942641

>>26942003
Trading provides liquidity you retard. You have no business proposing tax policy for shit you don't understand and in areas where you have no skin in the game.

>> No.26942644

>>26929934
No, i want hedgies jumping out of windows and off rooftops

>> No.26942966

They're shitting bricks right now. Hodl the line!
Those after money, you'll get paid
Those after change, you'll get laid
Those after kek, you will get sneed.

>> No.26943598

Let's say you autists here and on r*ddit are right about the brokers, hedge funds, other "institutional investors" having fucked up so bad that a hard squeeze will take the entire stock market with it as they are forced to liquidate/borrow/Jew to cover the shorts. Let's say you're right about this potential.
What could the US government potentially do by tomorrow (Friday) to stop the market from crashing? That is, IF (((they))) dont want it to crash in the first place? Bailouts? Executive order? SEC coming out and doing something?

>> No.26943726

>>26943598
>autists here and on r*ddit
Ya--- I can't even tell you to go back right now.

>> No.26944013

>>26929934
No i don't care about the money i want to see hedge fund fucks jumping from rooftops and taking long calls on $rope

>> No.26944037

How is it not illegal for a brokerage to block buy trades but allow sell? Sure freezing trades on a stock is a valid control for regulators, but one-side freeze by a brokerage is clearly market manipulation.

>> No.26944085

>>26930074
suck my dick you fucking retard. it's not about the fucking money. it's about you fucks fucking us over. now go get fucked moron

>> No.26944286

>>26944037
>How is it not illegal for a brokerage to block buy trades but allow sell?
It was illegal. And it will have consequences.

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>>26927659
>HIS WAS ABOUT THE ENTIRE FUCKING MARKET. THE ENTIRE NYSE WAS ILLIQUID AND WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO FULFILL THE BUYS OR PAYMENTS IF OPTIONS WERE EXERCISED
OH NO THE MARKET CRASHES AND JEWS LOSE TRILLIONS BOO HOO HOO
THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON I'M IN THIS GAME

>> No.26944747

>>26929934
me losing a few hundred bucks to make a hedge fund bleed billions is a great deal

>> No.26944786

>>26943598
Honestly? Switch currencies and allow all approved financial institutions to exchange their cash reserves and debt in a 1:1 ratio while everyone else gets fucked. Either that or print so much money that when you give it to financial institutions and it eventually ends up in the hands of GME holders, they become the new middle class while everyone who wasn't holding GME become neo-serfs.

>> No.26945112

>>26944747
Now this. This Anon gets it. I want to personally tell every newfag who came here to get rich quick, tell you a huge FUCK OFF. /biz/ will have you poor in fact, if you do not know what to do.

>> No.26945448
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>>26943598
Same thing as 2007, baby. Why stop the hyperinflation now?

>> No.26945456
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JUST LET IT ALL BURN PLS

>> No.26945524

>>26945448
2007 was not "hyperinflation"

>> No.26945780

>>26937147
you are delusional. the "elites" are the people who have made billions through market manipulation and other criminal activity over the years. This is it. There's nothing else, this is them.

>> No.26945879

To the guys fucking with GME: You are fucking heroes and I’ll happily serve under you.

>> No.26946162

>>26929934
I'm willing to take one for the team to completely CRUSH this faggot economy and restart from nothing
let the angry nose tribe have to begin scamming everyone again

>> No.26946370

>>26945879
You do not need to. Just be a part and have fun! This is what life should be. Enjoyable. You only have 1. And getting wealthy as fuck is your duty. Because it is just so fucking easy these days. We are lucky.

>> No.26946714

>>26946162
Hi /pol/ listen... this comes from my heart: leave /pol/ behind. Do not focus on all the things wrong with this world. We all know anyway, regardless of you feeding it to us every minute. It is not the solution. The solution is what you just saw happening.
And that was only the beginning.

>> No.26947499

>>26945448
They can't QE their way out of this. The whole reason why its worked without tanking the value of the dollar is because the dollars themselves don't move out of financial institutions and banks. It stays there and gets used as reserve requirements for lending and credit.
GME holders don't want a fucking IOU. They want dollars which would mean printed money entering the general economy in massive amounts and regular ass hyper-inflation.

>> No.26947984

>>26945780
that's only partially correct, but very misleading
yes, the elites do consolidate their wealth and power through such manipulations, but they are not the public Wall Street crooks who actually pay the consequences
the people you are referring to, who are facing these consequences, are certainly not the elites
the elites do not themselves operate publicly at all

>> No.26948609

>>26928856

>> No.26949644

>>26927659
What’s the phrase I always hear from those types?
>if I didn’t do it, somone else would.

>> No.26949986

Say high to gordin for me