Building a sales career was a mistake

[Anonymous No.28227843]

I'M TIRED OF BEING A MONEY MOTIVATED HUNGRY GO-GETTER MAKE IT FUCKING STOP.

[Anonymous No.28228978]

>>28227843
Sales is bottom of the barrel monkey shit. I look at the sales department at my company and wonder how those people look at themselves in the mirror. They are all a bunch of clowns and professional ass kissers.

[Anonymous No.28229424]

I have no idea what fucking idiot would go into sales. You would have to be some destitute sleeze ball piece of shit. Fuck you OP

[Anonymous No.28229538]

>>28228978
>professional ass kissers.
This just sounds hellish to me. I hate kissing ass.

[Anonymous No.28229963]

>>28229538
That's literally their job at my company. Their entire day revolves around kissing ass of the clients. I would have an hero'd long ago if I fell into Sales. They also have to spend time with clients and their coworkers outside of work hours doing dumb relationship building shit like axe throwing and other retarded shit. They are also some of the sleezxiest people in my company. You can trust them to tell you the truth about anything.

[Anonymous No.28230062]

>>28229963
*can't

[Anonymous No.28231200]

Oh shit boys I'm about to greentext

> be me
> January 2019
> I fucking love cars
> driving cool cars is life, but they're expensive and I have no money to buy them
> I'm an awful mechanic, so I figured I'd give selling them a shot
> zero prior sales experience
> my local Jos A Bank is hiring
> meh is a start
> turns out, I fucking love working as a wardrobe consultant, and I'm fucking great at it too
> fast forward to March 2020
> my JAB was already not doing well, and Corona put the last nail in the coffin
> I am assistant manager at this point
> get furloughed
> come back from furlough and end up making less money than a full time burger flipper
> it's now time to move on
> movetorealcity.exe
> end up in Nashville TN selling xfinity services in a Walmart like a jackass
> lots of money and opportunity for advancement were promised
> turns out I got neither. Just a sense of self hatred and maybe like 400 weekly on a good week
> get so disgusted with myself I walk out on the job

Cont

[Anonymous No.28231239]

>>28227843
OP. There is only one way. Run a Sentinel Node, turn your data into a fungible identity free state.

[Anonymous No.28231509]

>>28228978
Must suck being so Beta. Kek. You sound like the dude who doesn’t get the girl, the laughs, or the attention. I bet you’re extremely “deep” tho haha

[Anonymous No.28231623]

i work in sales
i sell my ass and mouth for $200 per hour

[Anonymous No.28232010]

>>28231509
yeah ok sales clown.

[Anonymous No.28232425]

>>28232010
I am. And very proud of it. Allows me to talk to girls. Allows me to have a large group of friends. Allows me to get better service when I go out. And allows me to make a lot of money.

Everything in life is about selling yourself. The hatred for sales people is based on two things:

People’s weakness- getting suckered all the time and mad at slick talkers

People’s resentment- wishing they were brave enough to close

Try selling something anon. To total stranger. You see what power it can be.

Well, maybe not you you’ll probably piss your girly underwear and start crying

[Anonymous No.28232463]

> eventually find a good job at a reputable car dealership
> "we can't wait for you to start selling here, Anon. We just need you to take this drug test first."
> fail it
> eventually find awful job at disreputable used car lot
> whatever, it still seems like a chill environment
> boss seemed cool enough
> has 6' Russian wife who could be a supermodel
> they had me sign zero paperwork when I started. Didn't even see to it that I got my dealer license until unexpected visit from some govt inspector asshole
> every car on the lot is fucking broken or moldy. Usually both.
> expected to gaslight every customer who raises concerns about the obvious problems
> suddenepiphany.png
> sales jobs fucking suck
> eventually get fired for not letting a customer come check out this broken Audi after we closed
> not even mad
> back on job hunt looking to get into management because sales sucks ass
> see listing for outside sales gig for a legal weed company
> decide to give it a shot since I wasn't getting bites for management jobs

Cont

[Anonymous No.28232549]

A sales guy in my engineering company was fencing, knew Korean (in Europe), and was also gay. Sounds like they all have a lot in common

[Anonymous No.28232599]

>>28232463
This shit is just depressing anon

[Anonymous No.28232697]

>>28232425
Sounds like you're trying to sell yourself on the idea. I guess you'd have to to live with yourself. Sales people are a joke.

[Anonymous No.28232868]

>>28232425
I've also never met a sales person that was good at selling. They're mostly a bunch of sociopaths that think they're slick even though the other person sees through the pathetic act. It's actually depressing watching you guys dance around like moneys.

[Anonymous No.28233254]

>>28232463

STAHP. no one cares

[Anonymous No.28233338]

I was a sales guy. It was OK in a way because before that I was a literal hiki, and my first pitches were cringe-inducing "h-hello, c-can I h-help you (oh god pls kill me)" - flinching away from the customer as if they were on fire.

In that way it was useful because I had to develop some social skill just to be able to put food on my table.

It wasn't the career for me, and I'm in IT now, but I can still appreciate a good sales pitch.

[Anonymous No.28233718]

>>28232868
It sucks sitting on the sidelines doesn’t it. Your whole life. What a waste.

I guess you get to criticize freely that might be fun for some people. But you will never get to have the feeling of winning. That cocaine rush of closing a sale. Youll be lucky if you get some frumpy boring wife, two loser kids like their dad, a boring long agonizing life. While the “monkeys” take risks and earn thrills

In this life you are either at the table.. or you are on the menu.

[Anonymous No.28233846]

>>28233338
My man. Just having the balls to try is enough

[Anonymous No.28233866]

>>28228978
This. Sales people are the biggest normie cucks who will literally suck cock to get ahead.

[Anonymous No.28233993]

>>28233718
kek what an asshat.

[Anonymous No.28233997]

>>28232425
Imagine jumping through that many hoops just to work up the courage just to talk to a fucking girl

Anyway...

> get interview at legal weed gig
> they schedule me while they're giving a facility tour
> wait around for an hour with other candidates for the job
> eventually get to talk to boss
> wasn't hard to convince him that I was the guy he wanted
> get hired
> first day consisted of a sales meeting where the boss threatens to fire everyone because sales were only up 400% from last year
> adjourn meeting with zero instruction on exactly what I'm supposed to be doing
> spend the next day at home taking the initiative to build a file of leads
> get threatened with termination for not showing up for the training I was never told about
> first two weeks of "training" and "learning the company" consist of almost exclusively trimming bud and putting labels on packages
> I get one day of shadowing
> get threatened with termination again because nobody told me that I was shadowing instead of doing grunt work that day
> guy I was shadowing with just delivered packages to clients. No actual sales happened
> "I think you got the hang of this, anon. Go forth and sell."
> drive 6 hours away to the town I was to be selling in
> do ok, but not great because there's way too many questions idk how to answer

Not a much of a conclusion, but that's my life and here I am. Just wanted to bitch about it in between applying for other jobs.

[Anonymous No.28234105]

>>28233997

[Anonymous No.28234131]

>>28233718
>While the “monkeys” take risks and earn thrills
But you're talking about wageslaving

[Anonymous No.28234139]

>>28227843
Was in same position about 7 years ago.

Burned out and fed up.

Took a pay cut in a similar industry and began specialising and becoming technical expert rather than shill. Pressure is 5% of what was for what is now more money than before. Make a plan and execute it. Now.

[Anonymous No.28234163]

>>28233997
Imagine thinking /biz/ is your personal blog and anyone gives a shit about you

[Anonymous No.28234461]

>>28227843
Being thinking about dropping out of my stem degree and going full throttle on some sort of sales/marketing business. Anyone else been in this position before?

[Anonymous No.28234583]

>>28234461
if u hate yourself, do it

[Anonymous No.28234608]

>>28232868
The trick to being truly good at sales is to hate selling.

[Anonymous No.28234981]

>>28234583
Why’s that.

[Anonymous No.28235035]

Sales people generally are ass kissers and talentless but you all need to realize you’re introverts and there are people who love talking to other people and unironically not autistic. I know people in real life that really love being in sales. If you get really good at it you can make a shit ton of money

[Anonymous No.28235118]

>>28233997
Beautiful. Some just appreciate stories like these in movies or books, but trust me the lurkers got you. If youre good at management you can always transfer to a different weed company later knowing how to work the ropes.
I've had business with plenty of car parts people to know that they dont care about improving logistics or margins, dunno about weeds. Maybe it's time you start looking for a better company.

[Anonymous No.28235160]

>>28227843
I used to work in timeshare and later corporate event sales. The buzz of getting deals and the commission was great and I was often the best salesman in the area (timeshare). But it's a vapid life with empty people.

[Anonymous No.28235305]

You have to be able to lie to be a salesperson so it really rewards sociopaths and psychopaths anyone who doesn't feel a twinge of remorse or guilt about constantly lying

Some people can sort of live a double life where they are a salesperson and also a decent person but it's rare

[Anonymous No.28235409]

>>28235305
I don't feel anything when I lie except for disgust. Disgust that I have to lie to get what I want and disgust that the person I'm lying to is stupid enough to believe me.

[Anonymous No.28235549]

>>28233997
That it? Want more green text

[Anonymous No.28235575]

Software sales is a chad / cushy gig.. if you sell timeshares or used cars you're not doing it right

[Anonymous No.28235741]

>>28232425
the absolute cope

[Anonymous No.28235906]

>>28234608
When I was at Jos A Bank, I put exactly zero effort into selling. I just made my customers look really fucking good, and maximized the budgets they were working with. I ended up making record breaking numbers doing that too. I would go back in a heartbeat if covid didn't kill the industry.

>>28235118
The company itself is top notch and everyone there is super on their game, but the guy running the show is just so damn abrasive and expects everyone around him to be a mind reader. Also ty for the support.

[Anonymous No.28235921]

>>28235575
I agree. Doing software sales now. Very cushy and make more than my coding friend kek. Plus less stressful. No debt. Jobs aplenty. Learned to not give a fuck. Great gal on my shoulder. Life is good gents. To think at one point I was a fat loser working at Walmart. Now I make six figures and about to buy a house in cash at 28. Kek

[Anonymous No.28236175]

I do sales and PM for a contractor specializing in commerical property claims. I make between 150k and 300k a year. I will hopefully crack 400k this year. Granted, I do a lot more than just sales in my role, but that helps keep it from being boring. I have to go argue with a forensic engineer tomorrow because cocksucking Liberty Mutual doesn't want to pay a claim.

[Anonymous No.28236217]

>>28227843
Read these:
The richest man in babylon
Rich dad poor dad

[Anonymous No.28236441]

>>28235921
>>>28233866
what experience do u need to get an entry level job? graduating this spring with some meme intern experience

[Anonymous No.28236514]

>>28227843
become a realtor, be your own boss. its hard work but the pay is excellent if youre good at it

[Anonymous No.28236541]

>>28235921
Alpha

[Anonymous No.28236576]

>>28233997
You are wasting your energy on people who don't deserve it...
But the fact that you realize that and come to /biz/ is a good sign that you have a better future awaiting you at the end of this struggle.

[Anonymous No.28236916]

>>28235305
Whenever someone is stupid enough to fall for my lies, I laugh my ass off lmao
It really makes me happy for the moment that I have outplayed them and got what I want to move forward.
Morals doesn’t exist

[Anonymous No.28238599]

>>28234461
I graduated with an engineering degree and went into sales. Get in to tech sales, it's a legit career and you can make 300k+, it's just a grind and gets exhausting.

[Anonymous No.28240078]

>>28227843
Worked sales for 2 years, fucking hated it. You have to be 10 different people on a day to day basis. Different levels of politeness, different levels of speaking, different body language, different fucking everything just to pretend that you have a connection with someone long enough to get them to buy whatever stupid shit you're pedalling.

Sure it helps if you believe in the product, I believed in what I sold. I knew we were literally the best in the market (with the luxury pricetags to boot), and I never had any qualms about upselling people since I legitimately believed we offered the finest quality industry could provide. But even then I still felt like I was doing a nothing job; I was just getting a guy to buy a thing that he could have just bought himself with 30 minutes of googling/research.

It's work that tears your very soul from you. That being said I'm a software engineer now and it's only marginally better.

[Anonymous No.28240593]

>>28240078
> Sure it helps if you believe in the product, I believed in what I sold. I knew we were literally the best in the market (with the luxury pricetags to boot), and I never had any qualms about upselling people since I legitimately believed we offered the finest quality industry could provide. But even then I still felt like I was doing a nothing job; I was just getting a guy to buy a thing that he could have just bought himself with 30 minutes of googling/research.

This is EXACTLY the way I feel about my current job. Legit, I work for the best legal cannabis company in America, but I still can't shake the grimy feeling. Unfortunately, I'm not really qualified for anything else except management, which isn't that much better. I might move back to my hometown and learn to weld or something idk. Ideally, I'd like to own my own business, but that takes way more capital than I currently have the ability to get.

[Anonymous No.28240605]

>>28236441
Get into an SDR/BDR role. It'll suck but the ones who survive end up moving up to an account executive and start closing deals rather than setting appointments.
Just do not give a fuck. Trust me sales has 0 HR even in megacorps. All that matters is the bottom line. I like money cause it gives me freedom. Everyone else in sales is the exact same. Regardless what these NEETs here say you can meet some really nice and compassionate people in sales. Alot have struggled in life to get where they are. I have many mentors due to this career field because they genuinely do want to see you succeed.

[Anonymous No.28240856]

If your in stem get into sales
My base salary is an engineers salary and I can triple it easily by applying myself 5 days a week, it’s hard work but pays great
AMA tech hardware salesman

[Anonymous No.28241229]

Good products sell themselves. I’ve had sales calls from sales reps before, mainly SaaS stuff. All sleeze bags with 0 technical knowledge but full of flashy words. Best one was some geezer from Salesforce banging on about a Data Lake like we didn’t fucking know what it was (F500 Data Engineering team). He got the Sales Engineer to do all the technical talking, and all he did was tell us about the glorious discounts we could get if we bought soon and signed a lengthy contract. His commission? Probably high, if he sold it. The Sales Engineer (who did a better job than the rep)? Probably not a lot, and with a standard salary.

When companies stop rewarding sales so much, and focus on usable products with good relationship management (i.e technical account managers), the procurement landscape will be a much nicer place. Tech is hot, so it’s not full of autistic introverts anymore, and any sales rep that isn’t actively upskilling their technical skills alongside their sales and RM skills, will get shoved aside

[Anonymous No.28242275]

>>28241229
What technical skills do you reccomend? I was looking into this sort of thing recently.