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28455385 No.28455385 [Reply] [Original]

...right Anon? ...Anon?

>> No.28455466

I bought GRT, I DESERVE to make it

>> No.28455518

>>28455385
Make what? Being resigned to death when it inevitably arrives?

>> No.28455608

No

>> No.28455635
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>>28455385
I'm basically in purgatory right now:
>Still wagecuck
>Basically guaranteed retirement at some point in the next 3-6 months.
>Could get fired right now and NEET it up on the unemployment for 6 months before then.
>Choose to wageuck even though I hate it because it makes the time go faster.
It's frustrating as hell but I know how close I am to never having to do this shit ever again.

>> No.28455743

>>28455635
How does it feel that the majority of people can't dream of retiring until 65?

>> No.28455776

>>28455385
I'm up 1K. Haven't made it yet, but the voyage is going smoothly. Practicing those good fundamentals. Very little loss so far.

>> No.28455909

>>28455385
once I hit 7figs, ill just do defi for passive income and do whatever I want

BZB+1

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>>28455743
They should've buyed

>> No.28455946

I'm not. But that's okay.

>> No.28456034

>>28455776
me too anon, started with $800 about a week ago and I'm at $2k now. Wish I'd put more in at first but what can you do, good funds to reinvest

>> No.28456181

>>28455385
im getting there

>> No.28456212

No I am too poor and priced out if I am lucky I will make enough to buy a used 2005 Camry

>> No.28456324

>>28455743
>people
Mostly NPCs who love what they do and need that regimented lifestyle or they'll go insane and kill us.

>> No.28456360

>>28455385
Ill be ok no matter what happens, I have a myriad of valuable, employable skills. Its just to what degree I make it. Wageslaving 40-50 hours per week and working on my business for 40 (which is profitable, Im just having trouble scaling) doesnt seem to be burning me out. My goal would be to "make it" and not have to wageslave by the time I'm 30, which is looking realistic, but I'll still be working at something no matter how much I make it.

Sitting around all day doing nothing doesn't really interest me, I need constant projects on the go or I lose my mind.

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>>28455385
Ive literally had almost a dozen chances of "making it" and Ive lost them all.
>lost 2500 links swing trading before the run
>lost 1 btc and 15 eth the same way
>sold 250 GME at $13 before it went to $400
>had thousands of shares of a covid play biopharm stock that went to $50 and I sold for pennies
>had hundreds of workhorse at $3
>had about 10k on different alts everything from matic to algo to rsr that have recently done 300%+ gains that I moved to defi /biz/ scams just before alt season started and lost everything

Plus a bunch more. I joke a lot in here but I really am at the end of my wits anons. Been on the chan since 2008 so I know sarcasm and self depreciation is the norm but somedays I really do feel like unironically killing myself. I have put a lot of time and energy into "self improvement" to get myself out from suicidal depression but when I see how many normies actually made it and while I have made the wront choice dozens of times it feels like if I am cursed and no matter what I do it always works against me.

Not bitching, ive thought about suicide so seriously I started researching the best ways to do it in a way that insurance still pays my family, how to set up my will etc that I just said "fuck it too much work". Every day I wake up and say "I will do better today" but sometimes it really feels like all my efforts to learn and improve end up leading me to the wrong place as if it was a giant cosmic joke. Still hanging in here by a hair though and you guys are the only ones who will ever know the truth because to my family coworkers and the world Im just a mediocre regular normie with a 9-5

>> No.28456921

>>28456565
Remember that whatever you did at the time was the decision that made the most sense to you with the information you had back then. It fucking sucks, but it couldn't have happened any other way. Have you lost money overall, or just not made as much as you could have? If you've lost it, then that's a very expensive learning opportunity, if you've made money but not quite enough then it's a very cheap learning experience

>> No.28456952

>>28455385
yea I bought hoge for 100

>> No.28457364

I'm going to make China the most powerful country on Earth, yes.

>> No.28457462
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Go on without me anon

>> No.28457540

got $3000 sitting here, everyone is saying put it in ADA or GRT but at best they're only going to $10 in a decade maybe
where is the next BTC or ETH

>> No.28458103

>>28455385
i own amc, so no

>> No.28458261
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>>28456921
I have literally lost everything. I had a lot of it in cold storage and when I started learning about defi, yield farming, etc I thought I was being retarded so I took it out to get into defi. Im in that place in hell where a lot of /biz/ anons are where we arent normies buying doge coin but we arent geniuses writing solidity trading bots either. When I spend a lot of my free time researching and trying to understand new concepts I make terrible mistakes, meanwhile my normie coworkers who dont know what a cold wallet is are up hundreds of % because they bought DOGE in robinhood 3 weeks ago.

It is a special type of suffering. The things I have diamonded handed and not sold are down 70%, the ones I did the "smart" thing and took profits at 30% are up 150%. I am not a normie I suffer from intense social anxiety since a young age that I have learned to "mask" to allow me to hold a normie job to pay the rent, so nothing would make me happier than have enough gains to work from home - and Ive had those opportunities in my hands many times and no matter what my desicion has been -buy more, hold, take profits it has ALWAYS been the wrong one.

I was so close to ending it I started organizing all my personal matters and posessions - only the birth of nephews put a hold to my plans because I didnt want to taint the family joy with a death.

And like I said Im not one to give up. Every day I say "today will be better than yesterday" and try to learn,improve, keep going. But so far it just feels like im in a maze with no exit and no matter what I learn or try or do it always ends up being the wrong choice.

Sorry for the blogpost reddit spacing and bitching Im usually the guy that hypes people up irl but you guys are the only ones I have ever been able to vent to and show my real weaknesses to.

>> No.28458504

Yes, I am going to shoot myself

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>>28455385
Absolutely fren. And I believe everyone in this thread will too

>> No.28459975

>>28455385
i burned my moon ticket like a retard. its a horrible feeling

>> No.28460201

>>28456360
The difference is you'll be working on things that YOU choose to work on, not what someone else wants you to do. Whenever I encounter someone who says they would keep working, even if they become rich, I think, "What is wrong with you that servitude is a fundamental part of your being?" I would play vidya, work on my shitty music, browse the chans, pick up a musical instrument, learn to paint competently, maybe build some shit, exercise, cook all my own meals, and maybe knock up my gf. I could have time to be there for my kid. I could LIVE instead of slaving away for some faggot who wants to introduce more "inclusion and globalization" initiatives.

>> No.28460363

>>28456565
I hope you make it, anon. Remember, most successful people have many failures before they succeed. Fucking Mike Lindell was a crack addict.

>> No.28460372

>>28456360
Based. Making it doesnt mean being a virgin neet playing vidya for 20hrsper day, it's just having the means and time to work on what YOU want

>> No.28460611

>>28460363
>. Remember, most successful people have many failures before they succeed.

Thanks anon hope you make it too thats the only thing that keeps me trying and not just ending it for comfy perpetual sleep

>> No.28460793

Not this run but one day

>> No.28461464

>>28455385
Im not so sure anymore

>> No.28461496

>>28455385
still got my link rsr and xsn masternode sure.

>> No.28461517
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the other day i literally just fell over and lay on the ground for several hours because standing/walking felt like too much effort

i don't know why i exist when i have so little interest in existing

>> No.28461570

>>28455385
dude I'm either going to make it by 40 or make one of those shotgun shells helmets with the electrical wire

>> No.28461624
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28461624

of course! we're all gonna make it bros

>> No.28461693

>>28455385
i have given up at $100k

>> No.28461784

>>28460372
I'm afraid I wouldn't do anything if I didn't have the wagie whip over my head

>> No.28461916

I doubt it. I recently quit drinking and smoking, and investing the extra money. I know no matter what I will be better off than the path I was heading in and that feels good.

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>>28455385
yes

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>>28458261
It takes courage to be able to admit problems you may be having. I know I sound like a cringe Instagram celeb, but knowing and admitting your problems to yourself is half the battle. The next step is to write them down on a piece of paper and start thinking through how you can get better one day at a time. Making it isn't necessarily the specific point where your body is ripped while living in Poland with your cute 11/10 gf, but the point where you are content with doing everything you can to make things better for you and the people you love.
Crypto harder to tackle because it's honestly informed gambling. No one here truly knows what they're doing here on /biz/. I'm sure you know this after seeing McDC threads yesterday and pink Wojaks today. Again, we're all trying to "make it." If it's financial stability you're looking for, I recommend following Ramsey's 7 baby steps. Total Boomer advice, but it's saved a lot of people. Just remember that crypto is ultimately a gamble, but even then, don't give up even if you've been here for 13 years. Eventually, you'll find what works for you and you'll make it as long as you stay persistent. GOD speed anon, and I wish you the best of luck.

>> No.28462899

>>28455385
hmmmm let's see
I got a big ol stack of Bitcoins and ETH
not to mention the fact that I gotta suter shield. that one is probably the best chance i got to make it

>> No.28463005

>>28455385
no, i only have 40k Link. i'll be stuck in low sevem figure hell for the whole bullrun

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im a nocoiner lurker with 10k

WHAT DO I DO FUCK I WANTED ALGORAND AS A SAFE BET BUT IT POOMPED ALREADY

>> No.28463980

I put $1000 into Nokia a few weeks ago and I'm still waiting for it to go up.

>> No.28464072

I'm in ALGO, GRT, XTZ, ATOM, LINK, ETH, BTC, PEAR and STEAK, CLV, CORLIBRI, TAR, and XSN. I'm gonna fucking make it. We all are.

>> No.28464152

I started with $20k in january and now I'm at $264k with a comfy stack. I think I might make it.

>> No.28464223

>>28455385
Yes

>> No.28464246

>>28461784
Why? What makes your heart sing with joy? Mixing house music, baking pies, riding motorcycles? There's always something that made your younger self jump with joy and say "I want to do this!"

>> No.28464295

>>28455385

yeah, sure. lol

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I need to move in and buy to make it though, with fiat the gains are very minimal.

>> No.28464520

>>28456565
What’s your next move?

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>>28464520
>What’s your next move?
Recovering from a serious back injury and claw my way back into trading with my destroyed portfolio, while applying the spiritual/ mindset techniques Ive been learning about along with what I think is newfound financial wisdom so I dont fall into the same traps as before.

>> No.28465035

>>28455385
I WILL NEVER ACCEPT THIS REALITY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.28465163

>>28464967
Let's see your crypto portfolio.

>> No.28465238

>>28465163
Absolutely not if I post it I will kms

>> No.28465251

>>28455385
that depends, is 20k OGN enough to make it?

>> No.28465477

>>28464967
you have good entries and bad exits it's fairly common. either grow some balls or step away because ur trying to trade with the big boys for high return when really ur just a long term investor cuck who could reasonably turn 10k into a million over a lifetime.

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>>28455385
I have $25K in right now. If things play out like last time that should put me in the mid six figures if I exit at the right time.
I mean a 20x isn’t unreasonable to expect right? That’s all I need cause I’ll DCA all of it back into BTC and some other big caps starting a year after the top.
Then I’ll REALLY make it.

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>>28461624
Fuck, that image is accurate

>> No.28465797

>>28465484
what do you have the 25k in and what are you planning to do about taxes? im in the same boat kinda

>> No.28465862

>>28465797
just hire a tax lawyer

>> No.28466359

>>28465797
I’ll just pay them. I don’t want that stress. If I end up with $200K after taxes I’ll be happy.
I got 60% link, and ada, *i*, and **t make up the rest.

>> No.28466554

>>28466359
im almost up to 100k and the thought of giving like 40% of my gains to the government fucking hurts.

>> No.28466766

>>28466554
>40%
Americhads only get 30%, 20% for long-term holdings.

>> No.28466869

>>28466766
im in america i thought it was like 37%

>> No.28467182

>>28466869
Just looked it up. It’s based on which bracket you’re in.
As a current poorfag I might get on 10% if I’m getting this right.

>> No.28467459

>>28455743
Good point

>> No.28467599

>>28467182
the bracket is based on how much you make that year though right? so like if you started with 25k and you get up to 300k and cash out they are gonna tax you based on 275k profit so you'd have to pay 35% of that which would be 96k youd have to pay in taxes

>> No.28467681

>>28455385
I’m writing a DEX where the only point of centralization is etherscan/blockchair data.

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>>28455385
I have Rubic so yes.

>> No.28467915

>>28455385
I cant invest in crypto till april, i wonder if the vaccines will change the market
God damn it man i should have invested in doge a year ago

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Naw, I went all in on Ethereum so I pretty much fucked myself over

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>>28465477
fucking checked.You sound like you know what you are talking about anon.

>good entries and bad exits it's fairly common. either grow some balls or step away

Tell me more? The reason Ive sold all those positions is because Ive read a lot of stuff and seen people watching their gains crash to nothing, so I thought I was outsmarting them by taking 10-20% gains on stuff that went to do hundreds or thousands of %.

Like I said the things I held "to let my winners ride" went on to lose 80% without me taking profits which is why I said I feel cursed

>> No.28468570

>>28455776
>>28456034
Up to 3800. Every journey begins with a single step. Just trying to +25% or so on most of my positions and not lose big. We're all gonna make it.

>> No.28468850

I'M TIRED OF BEING POOR!!!
But thanks for the motivation OP, now I feel better.

>> No.28469080

>>28467599
Makes sense. I’m retarded.

>> No.28469321

>>28469080
the taxes are a lot less if you hold for over a year but idk if its worth risking holding through a crash like in 2017 to avoid 20% in taxes

>> No.28469368

>>28455385
Yes I am going to make it anon. And guess what. You are too.