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[Anonymous No.28543114]

Where are we at? I'm thinking delusion

[Anonymous No.28543283]

>>28543114
I say we're either just before or just after "New Paradigm!!!".

[Anonymous No.28543396]

>>28543114
somewhere around enthusiasm

t. been in this shit since 2016

[Anonymous No.28543458]

>>28543396
we've seen media attention already

t. been in this shit since 2012

[Anonymous No.28543555]

>>28543114
we're slowly creeping over the edge of a cliff
freefall soon

[Anonymous No.28543640]

>>28543114
Media enthusiasm edging on greed

[Anonymous No.28543694]

>>28543458
first sell-off

t. satoshi

[Anonymous No.28543782]

>>28543396
yeah it really hit peak media attention in recent months, creeping through the enthusiasm phase

[Anonymous No.28543794]

>>28543555
https://youtu.be/q-Fp7SHMq04?t=154

[Anonymous No.28544058]

>>28543794

[Anonymous No.28544181]

>>28543694
You are the only one who is correct. Fucking biz can’t read a logarithmic chart

[Anonymous No.28544235]

>>28544181
we know. doesn't mean we can't shake some undesirables out

[Anonymous No.28544535]

>>28543396

So you don't think all the celebs, normies, and blacks puts us past public?

[Anonymous No.28544831]

i think we are first sell off. But the the sell off will be long. Im comparing it with 93-94 when the techstock artificially was crashed by the institution. so they could load up for 2 years and sell it during dotcom.

[Anonymous No.28544945]

>>28544831
see >>28544535

[Anonymous No.28544948]

>>28544831
what if we shake out the institutions

[Anonymous No.28545079]

i'd say denial. sell while you can!

[Anonymous No.28545126]

>>28543114

Unironically this time we are currently at the middle/end of the institutional investors phase.

[Anonymous No.28545143]

>>28543640
If we're just judging by the chart alone, then realistically the BTCUSD pattern most closely matches to the "Media Attention" phase.

[Anonymous No.28545223]

>>28545143
how about the ADA/USD chart?

[Anonymous No.28545245]

Lol, not at mania yet

Think about it like this, if it crashed back to $10,000 now, would that warrant a 2-3 year bear market? No it wouldn’t. When mania is over, people have to be completely sick of hearing about crypto and BTC again for at least 2 years. Right now the hype is definitely there, but it’s only just getting interesting. Anyone who has seen and felt the price action and worldwide frenzy that mania brings knows this is not a cycle top

[Anonymous No.28545276]

>>28543114
Take off

[Anonymous No.28545518]

>>28545223
Honestly it doesn't match up with the pattern at all. I don't think you can use this chart predictively for ADAUSD.

[Anonymous No.28545861]

>>28545223
If I were really to stretch, you could say first sell off/bear trap was in august, and we skipped media attention and enthusiasm and blew straight up to greed. It's pretty similar for all alts that have done well this run so far.

[Anonymous No.28545985]

>institutional money is in
>we are still early
>take off

[Anonymous No.28546011]

>>28543694
i think we're coming out of the bear trap

[Anonymous No.28546038]

ADA is really going to depend on whether their Smart Contracts / Native Assets actually outperform ETH as much as they hope, as well as garnering the developer base needed to support them. If that happens then they invalidate the chart completely.

[Anonymous No.28546082]

>>28543114
Crypto is still so small. As long as adoption keeps picking up I don't see a market-wide crash on the same scale as 2017. Percents haven't moved nearly as much yet as they did then either. That was mostly just maniac fomo into still useless tech. As long as your holdings aren't all in DOGE you'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.28546119]

>>28543114
We are going to the first sell off at 50k unironically. That chart will be the next 5 years

[Anonymous No.28546184]

>>28543114
take off, IYKYK

[Anonymous No.28546250]

>>28546082
>>28546119
>>28546184
yeah delusion confirmed, thanks

[Anonymous No.28546329]

>>28546250
Yep, bear delusion

[Anonymous No.28546366]

Delusion

[Anonymous No.28546377]

>>28543396
Agreed

[Anonymous No.28546390]

>>28546329
no worries i know now, thanks

[Anonymous No.28546444]

>>28543694
this actually scares me more than delusion.
t. 2016

[Anonymous No.28546549]

We were heading for fear after that double top, but Elon took us back and we're 100% hitting enthusiasm now. Fits with all the macro models as well. Bobos should have switched sides after the Tesla buy.

[Anonymous No.28546616]

>>28546549
how does elon not come after the "public"?

[Anonymous No.28546640]

Is this rational?

I'm thinking that when the graphs all show the BTC is pretty much at peak, then whales will dump because they believe in the predictive powers of the graphs. This dump could cause the new normies to panic sell and the alt coins to plummet.

[Anonymous No.28546716]

>>28546616
he is public sorry

[Anonymous No.28546853]

>>28546616
>>28546716
bear confirmed retarded? you picked the wrong side of history

[Anonymous No.28546897]

>>28546853
what?

[Anonymous No.28547016]

>>28543114
>>28543114
Boys its not so hard to tell. We ve got the Media attention for a while. We are somewhere about enthusiasm. With Public currently coming in thanks to Elon and co. Bitcoin will go x2 From here.

Only thing that bothers me that the Sell off was very late this time which could accur that we its going to be way higher this time.

But we got till April i guess until its comes to NEW PARADIGM, Reutrn no Normal one month later.

Im just trying to get as much as possible from my Altcoins before everything is going down to despair

[Anonymous No.28547207]

>>28546640
I don't really agree with your pattern recognition. If BTC were to follow the pattern on this chart, you should recognize that once it goes above the 350DMAx2 like that, it has a massive run up before coming back down.

[Anonymous No.28547234]

>>28546038
But if BTC dumps then, sadly, ADA will dump too

[Anonymous No.28547266]

>>28546390
I will laugh in 5 years same as I laughed when you told me to sell at 12k

[Anonymous No.28547284]

my linkies stay stinky!

[Anonymous No.28547308]

>>28543114
>Where are we at? I'm thinking delusion

bobotards certainly are.

And all because they were so stupid to sell their bitcoin early and are now PRICED OUT FOREVER SAND EVER

[Anonymous No.28547349]

>>28547266
yes it's delusion i already know, thanks

[Anonymous No.28547402]

>>28543114
enthusiam. bull run ends in 2022

[Anonymous No.28547797]

>>28543114
Look at the one year chart for BTC. It's easy to tell. We're in the media attention/enthusiasm phase. Although quite frankly until we have BTC tickers running 24/7 like they were in 2017 I'm not sure we're at media attention.

IMO crypto is different. media attention belongs after 'enthusiasm.'

[Anonymous No.28548027]

>>28543458
>>28545245
Listen to these guys.

The fucking TOTAL crypto market is estimated at $1.5 trillion. That's still 700 billion less than the market cap of Apple. And that's just 1 stock. Some of you have no idea how much money there's going around, and more is being printed at ridiculous rates. With crypto, there's very few barriers to entry and huge network effects...

Hold on to your tits, we're still around enthusiasm.

[Anonymous No.28548348]

>>28548027
This. I fully expect ETH to hit 4k+ and BTC 100k+ this bull run. We still have at least a few months of this left unless things really start picking up faster.

[Anonymous No.28548401]

>>28543114
I mean technically we are still in the institutional investors stage since companies like Tesla and others are just now coming into the market whereas the vast majority of the public has no exposure to crypto yet. That may change with coming ETFs and such but as of right now only a very small percentage has meaningfull exposure to crypto if at all.

[Anonymous No.28548806]

>>28547349
Elaborate
My average is $5800. Saying BTC would go to 49k was delusion back then too.

[Anonymous No.28548922]

>>28548806
nobody knows what the top will be but at 5800 you're pretty comfy and can just sit it out and watch what happens and still have good gains

[Anonymous No.28549152]

>>28543114
>Delusion
Nailed it
Or as I like to call it: Nigger brain

[Anonymous No.28549382]

>>28544181
For crypto, yes agreed.
For legacy markets we’re delusional.
I am about to long the SQQQ here soon

[Anonymous No.28549820]

>>28546038

Nobody fucking asked you about ADA faggot. Go make your own gay thread nigger.

[Anonymous No.28550102]

>>28546329
>Yep, bear delusion

[Anonymous No.28550233]

>>28549382
You want SRTY. Small caps are out of control. Large cap tech is relatively fair value

[Anonymous No.28550271]

>>28545276
Nah

Dimb Brian >>28545518
>>28545518

[Anonymous No.28550327]

>>28543114
right behind the first sell off that will happen in March

[Anonymous No.28550389]

right at the bottom of greed

[Anonymous No.28550500]

>>28548027
delusional

[Anonymous No.28550551]

Take off

[Anonymous No.28550698]

>>28543114
This is a suckers rally

[Anonymous No.28550723]

>>28543114
We are early as fuck. We only close to 3x. It will probably at least 8x, maybe even higher with instituions buying.

[Anonymous No.28550866]

>>28543114

I'm in the denial phase of being in the enthusiasm phase. I'm starting to get random acquaintances asking me about mining and shit. Media attention is happening thanks to random celebs and Elon.

I'm already feeling the mania. My portfolio doubled in january and is en route to doubling AGAIN this month.

[Anonymous No.28551127]

>>28543114
Objectively we're after the first sell-off, at the very beginning stages of media attention, what with people talking about Tesla buying BTC and so on. This also lines up with the 4 year halving cycle and stock-to-flow modeling that would put the top some time in Q4 this year.

[Anonymous No.28551149]

>>28550866

Normies on FB posting about Dogecoin, all the normie FB groups I'm in have more noobs asking nonsense questions.

In march people are going to realize that BTC is up 10x-15x from where it dropped to from the covid crash last year and start fomoing in like crazy.

[Anonymous No.28551238]

>>28543114
For this cycle we're somewhere around media attention / enthusiasm.
For crypto as whole, assuming defi and blockchain as a whole captures entire sectors and chunks of GDP? We're only just exiting stealth phase.

[Anonymous No.28551338]

I'll let you mongrels in on a little secret. The institutional money is in, they have been in for a while. Elon Musk shilling this thing is the big setup, he's not your guy, don't believe that for a second. The trap was set this week and I wouldn't wait around for it to be sprung.

[Anonymous No.28551358]

Late stage of greed.

[Anonymous No.28551449]

>>28551338
gooood morning, Tel Aviv!

[Anonymous No.28551457]

>>28550500
or just enthusiastic?

[Anonymous No.28551551]

I think 50k may be the top

[Anonymous No.28551726]

>>28551338
it was an SEC filing, faggot. You think Elon decided to buy 1.5 billion at the top as a practical joke if this was all part of a planned dump?

[Anonymous No.28551747]

>>28548027
Apple is actually a real fucking company that brings in billions in revenue

[Anonymous No.28551836]

>>28551551
>linear chart
you see that little blip at 2014? That was the peak from 2 market cycles back. That's what 2017 is going to look like once we've peaked this cycle. You're oblivious if you think the cycle peak is going to be a mere 2.5x from the last peak.

[Anonymous No.28551932]

>>28551726
Where did I say he bought the top?

But suit yourself. It's not my problem.

[Anonymous No.28552103]

>>28551747
bitcoin is the real bits on your computer chip that transact trillions of dollars everyday.

[Anonymous No.28552208]

>>28543114
>le epic meme chart xd

[Anonymous No.28552239]

Nope we're about to hit first sell off.

[Anonymous No.28552305]

>>28552208
bonjour, ça va?

[Anonymous No.28552414]

>>28551836
I’m just playing it safe. The market doesn’t calculate things in multiples. A 2x from the mcap at the beginning of this cycle is much higher in raw dollars than last cycle. Not saying I’m gonna pull out but prbly not gonna be doing anymore buying for the foreseeable future.

[Anonymous No.28552536]

>>28551836
First peak was x200, next peak x20. If we crash at 50k would noz be out of the unordinary. The volatility is going down as the market grows, this is for the tops and the crashes. Maybe we already are topping atm and will only crash -50\-60%

[Anonymous No.28552551]

>>28550233
>SRTY
Fuck it, SDOW too I’ll buy all the inverses it’s all coming down hard

[Anonymous No.28552781]

>>28552305
Bien et vous?

[Anonymous No.28552885]

>>28543114
Anywhere from Enthusiasm to "New Paradigm"!!!.
Seriously hard to tell.
We'll probably know in a couple of months, at max 9 - 12 months.

[Anonymous No.28552985]

>largest companies in the world buying in
>banks capitulating and offering crypto services
We are no longer in market cycles. We are in Hyperbitcoinization. National fiat currency will become worthless, and there will be one true reserve currency of the world.
Bitcoin. Only Bitcoin.
I am not deluded.

[Anonymous No.28553086]

>>28552414
nope, it takes as much as money to push up the price point. it's arguably easier as that bitcoin is hyper-scare so it's much less liquid as price get higher.

[Anonymous No.28553251]

This board is full of midwits.

[Anonymous No.28553306]

>>28543555
checked, boomer

[Anonymous No.28553383]

>>28543396
aka this is your second bull cycle
lmao

[Anonymous No.28553406]

You've been posting this since November. Give it a rest.

[Anonymous No.28553443]

>>28543114
this graph is old and only applies to market before 1970 stop being stupid

[Anonymous No.28553514]

>>28543114
About to hit first sell off, but it’s gonna be a brutal -50% drop. We peak later in the year

[Anonymous No.28553778]

>>28545985
Holy shit if dumb niggers have bought Bitcoin, you know the shoeshine boy theory is about to kick in

[Anonymous No.28553817]

>>28551338
what do you mean anon? elaborate please? what trap?

[Anonymous No.28553995]

>>28551338

[Anonymous No.28554961]

>>28549820
>>28545223
Actually I WAS asked. Jesus christ, relax.

[Anonymous No.28555104]

>>28543555

[Anonymous No.28555372]

>>28543114

We in Enthusiasm

[Anonymous No.28555549]

Pi Cycle Indicator would say we're at delusion, hasn't failed yet

[Anonymous No.28556349]

>>28552985
Goverment control the military and the police, they get to decide what's worthless and what isn't if they really want.

[Anonymous No.28556775]

>>28543114

gotta be greed and enthusiasm reading all the comments everywhere on the internet and stuff from normies.
prepare for an epic crash when interest rates skyrocket

[Anonymous No.28557243]

>>28553251
>posted from my iPhone

[Anonymous No.28558046]

>>28556775
First sell off. Shake out the weak reboot for mania

[Anonymous No.28558797]

Media attention.

[Anonymous No.28558828]

>>28543694
WAGMI

[Anonymous No.28559564]

>>28543396
This

[Anonymous No.28559788]

>>28545245
>>28548027
Completely agreed. This ride will get fucking wild beyond imagination in the coming months, we haven't seen anything yet.
0.1% chance that the new ATH is only 2,5x old ATH. I expect something between 100k and 300k for BTC, if I had to guess I'd go with 150k

>>28545985
What makes me even more bullish is that it's always the same pic of the same three useless niggers being used as fud

[Anonymous No.28559822]

>>28543114
Between first selloff and media attention

[Anonymous No.28559912]

>>28543396
So you are a newfag

[Anonymous No.28560123]

End of Media Attention and at the beginning of Enthusiasm. How long will the bull run go? Until September 2021 and we will reach 250k.

The summer is usually positive for the crypto market and September is usually a sell-off month where prices will drop until November, where we will reach then "Return to Normal" and the big crash on End of December or January 2022.

[Anonymous No.28560786]

>>28551551
>>28545245

[Anonymous No.28561589]

[Anonymous No.28562079]

>>28543283
Eh I don’t think so we need a heck more normies fomo’ing on weird alt coins like prq. When you hear normies talking about obscure alts is when the bubble will pop. We are due for a 30-50% drop though, before the next leg up.

[Anonymous No.28562950]

>>28561589
how old is that chart? is it from october?