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>We are the Generation that is allowed to skip work all life thanks to cryptocurrencies

how does it feel?

>> No.28940584

>>28940560
everyone will be able to skip work, UBI is coming anon

>> No.28940635

Like redemption for getting handed a worthless dollar, extremely predatory student loan system and close to zero opportunity to have the quality of life our parents had.

>> No.28940660

it's not about skipping work it's about skipping fruitless work

>> No.28940710

>>28940560
Outside is a wasteland, you will skip but after you do there is nothing left to enjoy.

>> No.28940753

>>28940660
Well put.

>> No.28940807

>>28940660
No it's about skipping work. I don't want to contribute in any way to society.

>> No.28940867

>>28940560
It's literally socialism/communism enabled through technology

>> No.28941301

>>28940560
I would like to leave the house but I am dying of Baja-Blast related liver failure. I have plenty of money but I can't walk to the toilet without feeling like I'm going to have a heart attack.

>> No.28941407

>>28940584
And you think that UBI has a worth or even that the fiscal system can survive that?

>> No.28941414

>>28940560
this is all possible because of 1 man named Satoshi Nakamoto.
god fucking bless that man
THANK YOU SATOSHI NAKAMOTO

>> No.28941440

>>28940807
Trading crypto is still work

>> No.28942043

>>28941440
Yes it is work but it is not a job. Humans still need to work but having a schedule and a manager means you have a job. With work, you can choose when you want to do it and you dont have to answer to anyone.

I love scalping crypto.

>> No.28942225

>>28940807
Fuck society. Society was happy to cower indoors under house arrest because of a flu. Society permitted mass immigration into the west thats destroying our culture and living standards. Fuck normans.

But you can be a NEET, or you can be a focused HNWI. The work I do won't benefit society, but it will benefit autists.

>> No.28942447

>>28940560
>>28940584
It's going to backfire big time.

>> No.28942739

All the women are gross whores and there are no jobs worth doing and boomers will tell you you're stuck up if you went to college (because they forced you to) and refuse to pack boxes part time at Kohl's because unemployment or just being unemployed in general is better.

>> No.28942804

>>28940660
No, I have a phd in physics and I quit my research job for full time crypto just so I could take as much from society without giving anything back as possible

>> No.28942814

>>28940807
so when everyone is like you society goes to hell

>> No.28942847

>>28941407
Absolutely. Once automation sweeps the economy it will be necessary.

>> No.28942865

Feels good desu. Why would I want to contribute to a society that actively hates people like me?

>> No.28942940

>>28940560
Once the 4 year bear market hits it won't be so easy right bros?

>> No.28942991

>>28942865
White male???

>> No.28943017

>>28942225
based. wtf is HNWI though?

>> No.28943025

>>28942991
Yes.

>> No.28943074

Fuck that, I'm not.

I remember being 15 and asking my dad to let me buy some Bitcoin.

He just didn't understand the concept at all. He plays dumb when I bring it up these days. Learned about it from fuckin Anarchy Online

>> No.28943087

>>28942865
Have sex incel

>> No.28943097

>>28940560
Wish it was true. Fact is that most of you crypto gamblers will be left holding heavy bags with no money.

>> No.28943157

>>28942847
>Automation meme

Fucks sake, they're going for a South African model. Outnumbered 5:1 atleast by labourers, massive tax for you.

You won't be getting that UBI, that'll go to the guys who are there to make sure you never, ever rebel.

>> No.28943247

>>28940584
no. every UBI guy i see says it won’t be enough to live on.

>> No.28943260

>>28942814
>society goes to hell
It's already been hell for the past 20 years.

>> No.28943382

>>28942814
good thing everyone isn't like him

>> No.28943397

>>28943087
I do quite regularly, why dont you go back off to reddit now please.

>> No.28943402

>>28941301
>Baja-Blast related liver failure
explain yourself

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>>28943260
yes

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>>28940660
based, take clown world for a ride

>> No.28943466

>>28940560
UBI , give power to China

>> No.28943478

>>28940560
Feels shit because I haven't made it yet. I'm not even close

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>>28940560
I only have 1.04btc and im already 30yo
ngmi

>> No.28943577

>>28943157
What are you talking about? It sounds like you have little idea of what's happening here. Automation will end up wiping out a lot of jobs and a lot of people will be out of work. From white collar to blue collar, tech companies who own the shit will have even more money and the richest people will have trillions instead. UBI will be necessary and it's already been proven to be feasible in other parts of the world. People like you just want to automatically be against absolutely any form of government assistance because you're apparently so fucking anti government and social program but fail to realize if the people are massively out of work and feel inequal there will be massive revolution at some point. Ubi can work in the future and it can work well.

>> No.28943588

>>28940584
Whatever the UBI will be it will be too small for most people and they will want a job to make more.

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28943609

>>28943512
you gonna rope soon

>> No.28943732

>>28941440
This. You are selling to people who want to buy and buying from people who want to sell in order to make profit so it's still work.

>> No.28943825

>>28943478
It'll get there eventually. It's not like I'd stop working entirely, I'd immediately start using my time to build necessary infrastructure for survival. Stockpiling and the like. Tools.

>>28943577
Let me explain - automation depends on what is practically magic and depends on perfect security.

It's a meme, nothing more. Driverless vehicles, for example, would get torched and robbed constantly. Trying to push some magical utopic vision onto a world where Zimbabwe exists is just retarded.

Removing the human element from the economy and having ultra high unemployment creates a spiralling situation of violence, á lá South Africa, where the heavily mechanised industries pay extreme taxes which come in the form of gibs to the most aggressive political groups.

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28943873

>>28943074
my dad heard of litecoin years ago, called it a scam, and labeled all cryptos the same.
thank god he left

>> No.28943938

>>28942865
based

>> No.28944013

>>28943577
In short there will be no "massive revolution" and no legion of robots.

Those robots need power, maintenance, logistics and all that.

You Communist fags were saying the same shit with the mining unions - "Reeee don't fight just go with it goys, Thatcher will pay up"

Millions made unemployed, cities made poor and then benefits came in to quell the dissent.

A side effect has been millions of stunted third worlders arriving for these same gibs and a tax bill that keeps rising.

>> No.28944096

>>28943873
It's a pain being this young.

Seeing it all infront of you but being powerless to do shit. It's a special kind of hell that makes you resent the people around you, for their inaction and lack of foresight.

>> No.28944190

>>28944013
These are the same people that would think that cars could make everyone poor because of unemployed carriage drivers a century ago.

>> No.28944269

>>28943825
>automation depends on what is practically magic and depends on perfect security.
>It's a meme, nothing more. Driverless vehicles, for example, would get torched and robbed constantly.

This makes no sense. Your argument boils down to "it can't work because it can't work people won't let it". If that's your argument than I'm even more sure than I was before. Nobody will torch shit when they're being taken care of via ubi and can do what they want in their free time and pursue other means of occupation that are more relevant in the new economy.
>>28944013
There COULD be revolution. There will be robots and there will be AI, a fuck ton of it in the next decade. You're not paying attention.
>communist
There's nothing communist about helping the people, Jesus get that through through skull. Social programs are necessary for complex societies like we have.

>> No.28944300

>>28943825
>Driverless vehicles, for example, would get torched and robbed constantly.
as opposed to normal vehicles why exactly?

>> No.28944381

>>28944269
>There's nothing communist about helping the people, Jesus get that through through skull. Social programs are necessary for complex societies like we have.

Mindless buzzword garbage

Giving niggers & retards free shit is not a social program, it is a wealth transfer to destroy the middle class

>> No.28944426

>>28944300
because they would be unguarded

>> No.28944468

>>28940560

No matter how rich you are, you still work.

You just have the option to do whatever work you want.

>> No.28944475

>>28944426
Just like the drones Obama used in the Middle East? Are you stupid?

>> No.28944482

>>28944300
I mean I never thought about that but yeah technically robbing a driverless car would be easier. Unless it had a theft prevention A.I that made it do donuts or fly off into the night as a robbery prevention method; then you take the risk of someone drunk/tired stumbling near their car wrong and it taking off like a bat out of hell

driverless cars/robotics is a clusterfuck and will be for awhile

>> No.28944491

>>28944190
In this case it's a concern only in that it's outsourceable.

Most of his fucking information will come from this assumption - that everything will be outsourced and the Utopia will be built in his country.

They said the same shit to South African niggers - that just tax the farms, they're the money makers, gibsmedat

South Africa has the largest illegal population in the world, and the whites there are taxed at like 70%

People like this don't understand "human" nature. America, for example - everyone on UBI, small town USA starts making illegal goods to sell, niggers buy it cheap. Niggers wonder why they are still inequal - demand further action against whites. Government happily obliges.

UK - mines and mills go down, no more pits or pots so people go on benefits. Who else goes on benefits? Everyone who doesn't feel like working. Give it ten years and you've got a dysgenic hell already forming - after thirty it's terrorism and Pakis blowing themselves up because despite all the assistance, they're still inequal because they can't fucking compete with people six inches taller and 20 IQ points higher on average.

They know this too! They join gangs because their flabby mantits can't get women, but if they work together they can probably get some to rape or bully into sex.

>> No.28944493

>>28944468
>No matter how rich you are, you still work.
Fuck that desu

>> No.28944561

>>28943609
You still aroun and here bobo? You are a masochist

>> No.28944589

>>28944381
Well it isn't necessary to convince a complete retard so I don't care, carry on.

>> No.28944723

All the faggot somolians in minneapolis just sit on their ass collecting money from the government, fuck liberals fags

>> No.28944765

>>28944482
>driverless cars/robotics is a clusterfuck and will be for awhile
>T-THE WORLD WILL NEVA CHA'ANGE CAUSE I'M SCURRED
Driving vehicles are already pretty good. Nobody will do shit to those properties we live in a nation of law and order. You sound like one of the guys from Grapes of Wrath. You'll bitch and moan when it comes, and you won't do shit, and deep down you know you can't do shit.

>> No.28944778

>>28944269
No, people will let it.

You have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Dysgenia is a real problem, especially with open borders. You remove the motive to work and you flood your own fucking cities with parasites - you breed a special class of extremely violent people who will grind what little there is down into nothing like locusts.

Never underestimate the appetite of gibs - maybe if we all lived in some Utopia where Africa didn't exist, but let's put it this way:

Automation creates a flat constant cost rate. Consumption constantly increases due to the inflow and natural breeding rates. The few remaining high earners cannot breed enough, their population drops.

What you end up with is a horde of hungry retards who will destroy the fucking machines.

We have seen this many fucking times! We saw it in Argentina, we saw it in Brazil, we saw it in South Afrcia - every time there's a new technology somebody tries to be nice and it backfires. Normally agriculture, monopolised by a handful of companies which work ultra efficient.

Then the gibs come out and the retards multiply while the intelligent can't get enough out of it to make the juice worth the squeeze.

Then you have millions of retards and some farms. And the soil starts to degrade. Bam, Zimbabwe. Or Uganda. There are a great many stories like it.

>> No.28944808

>>28943512
5 more years fren. You'll make it.

>> No.28944828

>>28942814
But acting african is acceptable now

>> No.28944830

>>28940560
Just as planned. NWO Great Reset is coming. They want us lazy and dependent people on technology.

>> No.28944871

>>28942814
jews have been living like him for thousands of years
parasital members of a community are found everywhere in nature, even in ant colonies
the more technology and automation allows us to scale human output, the more parasites can survive alongside

>> No.28944894

>>28940807
Super based. This society is trying to kill itself, I am not going to waste my time trying to keep it afloat

>> No.28944895

>>28944482
Jeremy Clarkson literally said it within a few minutes of them being available.

"I'd herd them"

Driverless cars are basically miniature trains - minimal overheads in comparison to the cargo. Predictable routes, usually scheduled very precisely.

Guess what, trains were commonly robbed. Many ended up with soldiers to prevent it.

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>>28940560
The amount of people that hold enough crypto to make serious money is actually really tiny. Only about 3 million wallets in the entire world own at least 0.1 BTC. You spend all of your time here and watching crypto youtubers, so you think that everyone is clambering to buy this ponzi, when they are either priced out or don't give a shit.

>> No.28944954

I knew about crypto since 2014 but I've never had disposable income (or a job) until now, as I've been doing a degree for the past three years.

I finally have a graduate job now and I want to invest as much as possible. Do I still have the chance to make it? I bought some LINK and gambled a load on shitcoins with my first paycheck, so any advice is appreciated.

>> No.28944976

>>28940560
how are you gonna eat the crypto? some ppl will still have to work to put food on tables

>> No.28944993

>>28943247
If i pay off my house with crypto gains then ubi just needs to cover electric, gas, groceries, insurance...

>> No.28945006

>>28944778
Automation will sweep the country and get rid of a lot of jobs. There's no arguing that. What happens next is obvious too but whatever. Keep deluding yourself.

>> No.28945013

>>28944828
>>28944871
people have radicalising people on racial inequality for thousands of years to try and create autocracy.
kys shills

>> No.28945015

>>28940560
We are a small percentage of this generation.

In 40 years the new generation is gonna hate us the same way millennials hate boomers that got rich buying a house for 50k


We are the new boomers

>> No.28945041

>>28944269
Let's throw Gadaffi into the mix.

Libyan oil, used for the benefit of the people. Worked great for a while. Rural Arabs with their average IQ of 85 felt that despite these subsidies, the successes of the Libyan cities were too much for them.

So they killed their leader and now Libya has slavery again. Woohoo. Go UBI.

Should I go on or have you gotten the message yet?

>> No.28945066

>>28941440
Stressing out for 3 months every 4 years isnt really work imo

>> No.28945082

>>28945015
OK CRYPTOMILLENIAL

>> No.28945089

>>28940807
Absolutely based

>> No.28945117

>>28944920
This board is full of LARPers and gamblers, with the occasional person who's actually got rich from crypto.

>> No.28945132

>>28945015
Can’t fucking wait.

>> No.28945136

>>28940807
Truly based

>> No.28945165

>>28945013
And races have been replacing each other for tens of thousand of years. But it’s only the last century we’ve seen it done on purpose
>don’t question your country going from 90 to 50 percent white in just a few decades goy, that’s what porkie wants!

>> No.28945231

>>28945006
Yeah, you'll get South Africa 2.0 with more guns.

Why are you acting like we didn't see the farming revolutions in Africa and South America, or the oil revolutions in the Middle East?

Do you always have this retarded smug outlook when you don't even know what the capital of fucking Libya is?

>> No.28945281

>>28945041
Implying it wasn't the gold-backed dinar that got him whacked. Shameless.

>> No.28945479

>>28940807
Just become a state worker

>> No.28945532

>>28945281
Opportunism, they'd been trying to get rid of him for 40 years.

It wasn't the Gold Backed Dinar mate, it was the chad move he pulled back in the 80s.

You know how Western powers always give guns to "rebels" in the Middle East?

Turns out our governments hate it when somebody pulls the same on them, and Gadaffi gave thousands of guns to the fucking IRA.

>> No.28945534

>>28945165
autocracy is not determined by racial homogeneity.

>> No.28945784

>>28943017
high net worth individual

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>>28940560
It feels so fucking great. Thanks to my GRT suicide stack, I will be able to retire at 27 or 28 and pursue my passions to learn foreign languages, learn violin, and become a part time university lecturer while I live comfortably from crypto passive incomes.

>> No.28945953

It’s actually pretty boring, honestly. But better than having a job, I guess. I’ve never had a job before.

>> No.28946050

>>28940584
>everyone will be able to skip work
When all the smart people retire, the world is ran by retards. This is how empires fall.

>> No.28946090

>>28946050
People running the world don't do it for a paycheck

>> No.28946118

>>28945886
Haha it’s what I’m doing too. The endgame is literature and art. (Pursuit of knowledge)
You can also go the altruistic route. (Pursuit of ethics and making “a change”)

>> No.28946217

I’m going to start golfing too. I hope I’ll meet some interesting people there. Hanging out with wagies gets tiring quickly after making it. They’re so pessimistic and unsatisfied. Always nagging about everything. Very tiring.

>> No.28946309

>>28946217
based

>> No.28946336

>>28943512
5 more years and remember to DCA every month especially during bear phase

>> No.28946502

>>28944269
>a fuck ton of it in the next decade
Let me tell you how you don't know what you're talking about. AI isn't ready for that level of work yet and it won't be for a few decades until we see that

>> No.28946526

>>28943512
You've already made it, you just don't realize it yet. One million+ by end of 2025.

>> No.28946601

>>28943157
>>28943825
We're globally in a death spiral where jobs are decreasing and unemployment is increasing at an exponential rate.
Welcome to the last industrial revolution, humans need not apply.

>> No.28946718

>>28946118
Nice. What kind of literature and art are you pursuing, anon?

>You can also go the altruistic route
I'm still not sure about that. I haven't 100% made it, so I still have this greed within me. Maybe when I already fulfilled all my needs and wants, I'll start thinking about donating/giving back to society.

>> No.28946766

>>28941440
Even I'm not this delusional. Idk why people just don't admit trading stocks/crypto is just a socially accepted form of leeching. It's an anonymous board, we can be honest with ourselves. We produce nothing.

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28946780

check out the salary vs house price since the 1960 and reevaluate that statement

>> No.28946856

>>28946217
>I’m going to start golfing too. I hope I’ll meet some interesting people there.
Exactly my plan as well. I love individual sports like golf or archery (already doing that since 2015). Great minds think alike, I guess. I can't stand normies who get excited from mundane things like gossiping about celebrities etc. It's just so stupid.

>> No.28946872

>>28940560
did you already cashed out at least 1 million?
If not, you did not make it yet.
Until you cash out, you didn't make any profit.
I see many of you kiddos about to get rekt. I can feel it in my balls. So many thread about being rich etc...

>> No.28946982

>>28946872
That feeling is envy mixed with cope, nocoiner.

>> No.28947005

>>28940584
UBI is coming and you will eat the bugs
The UBI will be implemented only as a workaround for ramping hyperinflation
Eventually UBI is gonna be insignificant and you will be forced into poverty
UBI will give you 1 and will take 2
Receiving free money means these money are worthless
Buy your life vest, save you ass, when the time comes you are gonna need it

>> No.28947018

18eKuXXeYWPSgKBxv2oPECuY8mtgUZ8qNc

Plz send btc :)

>> No.28947160

>>28946856
Cool! How’s archery like, anon? Didn’t consider that option before.

>> No.28947166

>>28947018
If you do something extremely entertaining, sure, but stop being a fag.

Only ever beg from people bragging about "making it" - people who bought 1k BTC and held it for the last decade.

Then you humbly ask for 10 while offering information.

>> No.28947175

>>28946872
>Cashing out in fiat currencies
ngmi
You lost the game before stating it

>> No.28947244

>>28946982
lol at your when your portofolio become a poorfolio again. Just a warning. You don't make it until you actually cash out. What will happen when most kiddos like you start grasping that reality at the same time? btc drops. Back to wage cage for 4 more years

>> No.28947351

>>28947160
I'd suggest shooting desu, archery seems like what homosexuals do to meet one another.
>>28947175
The real objective is to exchange crypto profits for tangible assets.

Not just meme metals but construction equipment, precursor chemicals, machinery for ammunition, power supplies, all that shit. You could theoretically leverage it for massive loans, then hide it all on some property out in the middle of nowhere, fake your own death and live as a NEET atop a pyramid of JCBs.

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28947359

>>28947175
unironically believe his digital coin is going to replace world's currencies.
The level of delusion. At best it might become an alternate currency. So much delusion, we are near the top

>> No.28947493

>>28947359
Monero will be the kicker.

It won't be BTC, there will be some big stink and it will get tracked and propagandised.

Monero is untraceable.

My bet is that some Tarrant-esque figure will put his Bitcoin wallet out, and suddenly all those "free" exchanges will start ratting out whoever sent money to it.

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28947504

Why the fuck do people bring up Africa and other third world shitholes when talking about UBI or social programs and not successful European countries? also the fear of automation is pure luddite talk. we are no longer a production economy we have become a service economy and we need to focus on moving towards the one pass that. we keep moving forward, to the moon

>> No.28947531

>>28946718
I’m reading the novels of Herman Hesse at the moment. Next year I want to go back to university to study German philology. I hope to meet some like-minded people there. Actually, I’ve been thinking about moving to Germany or to Switzerland to further pursue my studies. I also see myself settling down there. But I’m also kind of used to my home country, even if it isn’t so intellectually stimulating anymore. I’m still not sure what to do. Maybe I’m just a little bit scared to make the change.

Being altruistic will come after you have more than enough.

>> No.28947575

>>28947504
I can't think of any European country with UBI. I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea btw

>> No.28947591

>>28946872
You need a minimum of 10 million. And even better is 100 million. I’m getting close. After you hit 1 million things get easier.

>> No.28947662

>>28940560
I've only lost money on crypto

>> No.28947673

>>28940584
>he thinks the peasants will be allowed off the plantation
Anon, I...

>> No.28947681

>>28947591
everyone has its own criteria. One million you can buy real estate, and even own a small shop with employees. You just come by once a day to check on everything and collect $$

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28947721

>>28940807
Dangerously Based

>> No.28947778

>>28947662
Get fucked swingy

>> No.28947805

>>28947681
Building apartments seemed based until they were allowed to not pay rent because of covid

>> No.28947871

>>28942043
>>28941440
Are...are we the jews now?
?

>> No.28947896

>>28947681
To each it’s own. I prefer to make my money in the virtual world. I’m not interested in running a business and dealing with people.

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>>28940560
It feels horrible because I'm late to the party and will never make it

>> No.28947992

>>28947805
Pretty much, small time landlords got fucked. Also fuck renting from owners directly, they're nosey as fuck and always in your business.

>> No.28948041

>>28946766
We provide liquidity.

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28948054

>>28940807
based

>> No.28948144

>>28943260
And steadily getting worse

>> No.28948201

>>28947166
No faggot, you don't. I made it on my own. Suck me off for scraps.

>> No.28948258

>>28943588
I'll take 2.5k in UBI and keep my job, thank you.

>> No.28948313

>>28946766
We are knowledge workers.
It’s not leeching at all. We are using our intelligence and insight to educate ourselves so we can make smart financial decisions. It’s not unfair because everyone has the same opportunities as we do, the internet is accessible and open to all of us.

>> No.28948349

>>28947504
Rather than famously poor countries like Argentina and South Africa?

The two extremely wealthy nations that collapsed?

What the fuck lmao, in what world was South Africa not an extremely successful country? Right up until the 80s. It even had nukes!

>> No.28948396

>>28940807
this anon 100% gets it

>> No.28948401

>>28948201
My price is too high for you. Go get a cheap rent boy or something

>> No.28948505

Crypto just has high returns at the moment because it’s a completely new field. But we carry the burden of high risk on our shoulders every day.

>> No.28948908

>>28944300
If you remove the human element there is less of a moral barrier

>> No.28948931

>>28947504
It's crazy that in the board where people have been shilling the 4th industrial revolution and smart contracts for 4 years you still think automation only concerns manufacturing warehouses and not white collar work and the service economy. Go back newfag.

>> No.28949066

>>28944954
if you want to garuntee'd win in the long run get bitcoin and ethreum, you can sprinkle some percents here on alts

>> No.28949482

>>28940560
I am a gen x, i wasn't allowed to do shit, but of course i'm in crypto and fuck my generation of boomer normie retards

>> No.28949527

>>28947662
Clearly you're doing it wrong

>> No.28949827

>>28949482
>i wasn't allowed to do shit
To think most inter-generational fighting could have been avoided if peoples retirement was better planned out.

>> No.28949973

>>28949827
I clearly started my adult life in a downtrend, i don't even blame boomers, it's just cycles.
Trying to do the same shit they did to make it or live a decent life is completely stupid.

>> No.28950283

>>28949973
Sorry I wasn't clear, I meant if the greatest gen and boomers didn't get the rug pulled from under them on their retirement thus meaning they have to work till their mid 70,s at least then most infighting could have been avoided.

>> No.28950292

for someone without a bachelors is armed forces best way to make it?
>free degree
>can save more money due to having fewer bills living in dorms
>no debt aside 4/8 years
>good job training

>> No.28950839

>>28950283
It's about cycles, the greatest problem of the boomer leaders was that they believed that markets and society can only go up, and they passed this fake belief to their sons.
You don't solve this situation with some commie shit and/or blaming the government, it's just how economy works.