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Online poker Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:22:22 2021 No.29097251 [Reply] [Original]

What you and where you playing?
How much you making?
Videos and people to watch?
favorite streamers?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:26:26 2021 No.29097468 I play on rounder casino app. They accept BTC and LTC deposits

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:27:19 2021 No.29097515 >>29097251 why would you lose your money to gto bots on purpose?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:31:29 2021 No.29097751 >>29097251 bump for curiosity

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:36:26 2021 No.29098007 >>29097515 why would you lose your money to stock market bots on purpose?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:37:29 2021 No.29098066 currently watching this guy he made 4M in poker https://www.twitch.tv/apestylespoker

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:47:33 2021 No.29098684

>>29097251
if in US
>americas card room
best volume for micro/small stake tourneys

>ignition (formerly bodog/bovada)
bad software, anonymous/no avatars, low volume

>betonline
best software, medium volume

best HUD (heads up display)
-DRIVE HUD can be used for all 3. small stakes package is only like $15 bucks a year
-Poker Tracker is good as well

my favorite youtubers:
raise your edge
jonathon little

fuck sheldon adelson (rest in piss)
it was he, and the DOJ that were responsible for black friday about a decade ago that got Pokerstars/FullTilt etc shutdown. since he was a faggot casino owner and couldn't stand that people were playing online and not going to his casinos and giving their money to the house.
REMEMBER poker is the only thing where you can make money because you play against other people, not the house! sure there is rake, but it is beatable if you DYOR. anyone that says "IT'S GAMBLING!!" literally doesn't know what they are talking about. Especially Sit'n'Gos and Tourneys, they have been solved, you can find everything you need for free online. If you play at lower stakes you will be playing against fish, same for Cash.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:49:19 2021 No.29098797 How can I set up a poker bot?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:55:20 2021 No.29099134 What are the sites with more low grade players and more money?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 22:57:57 2021 No.29099301 >>29097251 Have you taken the Tony G pill? The Polkpill perhaps?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:11:02 2021 No.29100033 >>29098684 >raise your edge bencb is based, his mental stuff is cringe though

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:22:00 2021 No.29100660

>>29100033
>bencb is based, his mental stuff is cringe though
yeah most of these pros all have that kind of cringe content. makes you wonder if they were only able to attain their skill level by doing all this mental work before, or if it came after years of run good. probably just a grift for most of them "take my mental course before you even take my poker course." there are plenty of pros that tilt all the time, though. if you are 12 tabling though it's definitely necessary to look at the long term big picture.

figured there had to be some other poker players here, that's actually how i got in to crypto a few years ago ironically enough. surprised there aren't more ITT

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:24:51 2021 No.29100823 >>29099301 dont know them, anything good?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:25:59 2021 No.29100879 >>29100660 biz used to have daily poker threads idk what happened

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:28:03 2021 No.29101003 File: 19 KB, 300x344, 1606225276504.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>29100823 >he doesn't know about TonyG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynLSJHxBags

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:29:54 2021 No.29101091 >>29101003 i used to watch poker at night a lot never got much into the names tho

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:30:33 2021 No.29101135 File: 2.51 MB, 4032x3024, BDFEBECE-7045-4772-BC2D-8C1AD6EFBF40.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Play live incels and stack like I am right now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:31:38 2021 No.29101193 >>29101135 >1/2 live player lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:32:00 2021 No.29101217 >>29097251 ex pro here with over a million in winnings AMA

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:33:11 2021 No.29101307 >>29101135 nice

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:33:20 2021 No.29101318 >>29101003 fucking kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:33:28 2021 No.29101323 >>29098066 I know a lot of guys that stream there. Met my exgf on twitch when it first opened coaching her

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:34:06 2021 No.29101358 >>29101193 There’s nothing else bitchboy. I literally had to leave my state to play. I ain’t driving to Vegas to play bigger games

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:34:12 2021 No.29101364 >>29101217 is online poker a scam? what you know about the online scene?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:35:08 2021 No.29101408 >>29101217 Did you ever play against John Starks

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:35:20 2021 No.29101417 File: 4 KB, 250x236, 1606216435693.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>29101358 >bigger games >implying you are even a winning player in your shitty 1/2 game

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:35:59 2021 No.29101449 >>29101135 50NL or 100?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:36:22 2021 No.29101473 >>29101217 Is plo the future, and why is the answer yes?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:37:47 2021 No.29101539 >>29101473 no.. i went through a phase but there's just not enough volume. i fucking love plo hi/lo

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:38:16 2021 No.29101564 >>29101417 I actually only played limit holdem for a long time. 2/5 and 5/10 aren’t difficult.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:39:04 2021 No.29101602 >>29101539 i wish more mixed games were available to me online in the us. Would love to learn 2-7

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:39:20 2021 No.29101613 >>29101449 1/3 300 max

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:40:17 2021 No.29101672 File: 105 KB, 946x1024, 1605416353949.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm gonna make a pirate themed poker game in Source engine and it's gonna be better than Artifact wish me luck bros

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:40:49 2021 No.29101703 >>29101564 Limit can be pretty fun. High rake at 1/2 keeps the shit regs from climbing the food chain. Ok, you're alright.

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:41:33 2021 No.29101741

>>29101364
shitload of scamming going on yah. Tons of collusion teams, bitcoin scams etc. I played heavily at seals with clubs when it first opened. It was one of, if not the first bitcoin poker site that ever opened. It is how I got into bitcoin to begin with when it was 7 dollars a coin. Lots of poker players started playing bitcoin poker after black friday because it was legal as where cash games werent.

It was the wild west, those vanilla cash cards had just come out and their competitots as well, I forget what they were all called now. AMEX blue card? Where you could do cash to cash transfers, NETSPEND etc and people would send cash xfer to people for chips (chips = bitcoin) and get scammed right and left, shit was hilarious. (it was really hard to buy BTC back then there were no exchanges or any of the shit there is now you mostly could only buy it from someone that mined it or localbitcoins website and shit)

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:42:02 2021 No.29101767

>>29101449
Some drunk idiot earlier reraised my pocket 8’s earlier. Flip comes Js8s2d. I check he bets I raise him all in. He calls. Flip over my set and he looks at his card and mucks. Then he leaves and the dude next tim him says he had pocket jacks. So dude must have realized that there wasn’t a J out there

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:43:32 2021 No.29101835

>>29101408
never heard of him. I played in games with Gus Hansen, Phil Hellmuth, Erik Lindgren, Dutch Boyd and Bret Jungblutt. Me and Brett used to be really close but we had a falling out of sorts a few years ago. I still talk to Dutch occasionally, he streams on twitch still I am p sure. Havent checked in some time. All the guys I mentioned above are bracelet winners btw

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:44:03 2021 No.29101863

>>29101703
Can 1/2 even be beat? I mean I’m good. Very instinctual. And I realized I fucked up playing limit the last 10 years. Even tho I’m a solid limit player. And beat 20/40. But u now realize I could have been playing higher NL games and making more

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:44:18 2021 No.29101878

>>29101602
i wish any of the sites in the US had h.o.r.s.e like stars does. alas you can really only play NLHE,LHE,PLO,PLO8 and 7 card stud tourneys on ACR. it's takes a long time for tables to fill though. PLO is easy money it seems a lot of people who don't even know how it works still play! higher stakes are obviously filled with NO fish, but it's not like it was 10 years ago. Pretty much only decent players are on the sites now, obviously if they've sought out a site to play on in the US they won't be fishy (for the most part)

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:44:39 2021 No.29101898 >>29101835 What about Tuff_fish?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:45:03 2021 No.29101915 >>29097251 What coin is this? It's not on 1inch.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:45:08 2021 No.29101922 >>29101473 PLO was my best game. I broke records for most toruny wins in a row at Seals. I won like 8 out of ten tourines in a row. There were 2 a day on weekends and I won almost every one for the entire week

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:45:26 2021 No.29101945 >>29101835 JohnStarks was a name on PS of one of the higher up players. Probably the basketball player

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:45:42 2021 No.29101964
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>>29097251
Imagine wasting your life playing poker. I used to play until I realized how boring it was. The fact is, casino games are outdated in terms of game mechanics. Poker can't compare to games like League of Legends, Skyrim, Dark Souls, Counterstrike, etc. It just takes too much time and isn't worth it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:46:10 2021 No.29101991 >>29101602 Seals has all of them

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:46:13 2021 No.29101993 >>29098684 >tourney's sit n gos solved can you talk a little about that please. I used to dominate 5 dollar sit n go's just playing like doyle brunson, but that shit dried up at 10.

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:47:10 2021 No.29102059

>>29101964
You wanna know something? If it wasn’t for poker I wouldn’t even care about how much I make with chainlink. You need to keep your mind occupied. I can sit at a poker table for 12 hours no issue whatsoever. Imagine having lots of money and not knowing what to do with yourself. I’d kill myself

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:48:05 2021 No.29102116

>>29101863
>Can 1/2 even be beat?
Very difficult
>I realized I fucked up playing limit the last 10 years
If you have good limit games where you live, it can't be that bad. You can always learn a new game if action is dead at your local room.
>>29101878
>i wish any of the sites in the US had h.o.r.s.e like stars does
Yeah, its pretty shitty. The only place you can play 5 game or 8 game is SWC, but volume is too low to even bother.

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:49:09 2021 No.29102182

>>29098066
>apestyles
holy shit, I read a book of his a decade ago, dude knows his shit. just found the book, legendary shit, written by multiple dudes, "Winning Poker Tournaments One Hand at a Time", best poker book imo

>>29098684
>black friday
can't believe it's been a fucking decade. we all thought it would disappear for a couple years max. online offerings today don't compare, sadly. it was wayyyyy easier to make a living off it back then, just due to field size and volume (speaking about MTTs, the only real poker)

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:49:51 2021 No.29102226

>>29101945
I never played at pokerstars mate, there were too many "names" there. It was way better money playing at lesser known sites like absolute, pokerchamps etc. In the early 2k's there was a boom of sites to play at. It was the gold rush like shit tokens are now.

Pokerchamps was where I played Gus, he was the site prob. I also played Erik (EDog) there. Pokerstard was outlawed for Americans nearly from get.

>>29101878
Try Americas card room you can buy chips with crypto also.

>>29101898
Nah never heard of him mate

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:50:23 2021 No.29102257 >>29101767 damn nh, i've only ever played at a casino once. i imagine he probably got coolered maybe had QQ/KK or even aces especially if he snapped and then got so mad he mucked and left

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:51:17 2021 No.29102299 >>29102226 Here you go. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zAQd9nFoRYk

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:51:23 2021 No.29102307 >>29102059 this, poker is the best way to learn how to be a savvy investor. It is all numbers, nerves, psychology and averages no matter how you do it. Poker was and forex/stocks are literally no different in terms of how you beat the game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:51:27 2021 No.29102310 >>29102226 >Nah never heard of him mate >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uszcu3WsPvk

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:52:42 2021 No.29102378

>>29102226
>Try Americas card room you can buy chips with crypto also.
that's actually where i play most. i've recently been playing alot of hyper HU PLOhi/lo or just hyper HU NLHE. just something different to try to beat, kind of been getting bored lately

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:52:58 2021 No.29102394 >>29097251 I live in las vegas are there any ways I can win big at video poker?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:53:24 2021 No.29102416 >>29102310 Haha you know. mines better tho. “FUCK ME TO TEARS”

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:53:52 2021 No.29102438 >>29102299 damn party poker, that brings back some memories. Fuck I'm old

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:54:02 2021 No.29102446

>>29102182
>can't believe it's been a fucking decade. we all thought it would disappear for a couple years max. online offerings today don't compare, sadly. it was wayyyyy easier to make a living off it back then, just due to field size and volume (speaking about MTTs, the only real poker)
did you ever play on party poker? i remember not really knowing anything and just set mining full ring and staking people until you would get set over set. good fucking times. god i miss those days

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:55:19 2021 No.29102516 >>29102446 stacking** not staking, kek although ironically i had a couple friends that would stake me

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:56:59 2021 No.29102596

>>29102378
I used to be a top player in literally every game but man it takes years to get to that level. Literally playing 15 hours a day for 3-4 years. Poker is an expesnive skill to learn. I suggest learning all the math backwards and forwarsd before getting in any games higher than 1/2. Math players will always beat the fish just like the jeets always beat the newfags on scam coins

Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:58:35 2021 No.29102667

>>29102446
When I first started getting into poker years ago towards the beginning of online. I was playing like free sit and go’s on WSEX at the college library computer. One time I turn on a random computer and I see an Everest poker thing still on the computer. I click on it and the dude still has his login and password on there still. So I sign into his account and he has 2k on there. I sit with his 2k at a 5/10 NL table or whatever. And ran his shit up to 5k playing like an idiot. I always wonder what he thought the next time he signed in

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 18 23:59:08 2021 No.29102701 >>29101672 godspeed anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:05:55 2021 No.29103026 >>29102596 You play anymore

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:06:12 2021 No.29103037

>>29102596
to be honest i would never attempt cash outside of micro stakes back then. i have dedicated most of my time over the years to mastering sng and tourneys since they have largely been solved and every resource you need to learn is available for free. but like the other anon said, the field is so much smaller and the players are way better than 10 years ago

>>29102667
fucking kek probably thought the site made a mistake and put some extra bones in his account

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:06:52 2021 No.29103070 >>29101878 tyr betonline as well, I havent played there in years but I am pretty sure they have a good mix of games

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:08:09 2021 No.29103142

God I do remember seal with clubs may years ago. You could join a game and not put any money down, and if you won you got a fraction of BTC. I must have had a couple of BTC that I sold to buy beer or something. Anywho, I'm intrigued by online poker.. a) where would a noob play these days and b) is online poker "fun"? Is the any sort of communication? Yea yeah pardon the bullshit but seriously.. online poker is inherently not in-person and seems a bit soulless

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:09:15 2021 No.29103199

>>29103026
I play some home games with some guys where I live in a game on the last friday of every month but not online anymore. I will occasionally go to the casino (there is one like 15 mins from my house), but not online much anymore.

I used to drink a lot and do a shitload of drugs when I played, it kept me sharp and having a good time. After I quit all that shit it is hard to play 12 hours straight of poker anymore

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:09:58 2021 No.29103241

>>29103070
>betonline
i've played on there a little bit, still not as much volume as ACR but great software. not as many tourneys, and your lucky to get 200 registered. On pretty much every donkament on ACR or BOL they now have unlimited rebuy to even hit the guarantees, which i guess isn't a bad thing just sucks there aren't more people

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:11:13 2021 No.29103312 >>29103142 I won a new years eve krill roll on 2013 for 8 btc. I think it was 2013, could have been 2014 or 2012. I was doing a lot of drugs back then

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:12:16 2021 No.29103369 >>29103241 I hate fucking rebuy tournies

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:22:11 2021 No.29103911 File: 3.11 MB, 4032x3024, 439E1090-90E3-4B04-B46E-F85D61DB78A8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fucking rolling boys. Steamrolling the table

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:23:30 2021 No.29103981 >>29103199 You think adelstein is good or just lucky?

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:26:58 2021 No.29104171

>>29103911
not a bad little stack. You playing 1/2?

>>29103981
Dont even know who he is man. I havent kept up with the poker scene in about a decade. All the names of the people I named up top I played with mostly only people in the scene for at least 20 years would probably really know. The last live poker game I watched on tv was the world series Hecham won I think

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:29:44 2021 No.29104316 >>29103981 I take that back I did watch the 2009 Joe Ceda because he took Hellmuth's youngest player to ever win title. That was prob the last time I really kept up with who was who in the poker world

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:31:13 2021 No.29104381 >>29103981 garrett is one of the top cash game players in the world, easily

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:33:01 2021 No.29104471

>>29104316
You should watch live at the bike. It’s really good. Of course there aren’t live streams now cuz of covid but they have tons of hands recorded. They are like pro players but not like the mainstream pros

Here is a good hand

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tUdWPTx5xeo

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:33:32 2021 No.29104504 >>29104381 Yeah that was actually a dumb question.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:34:15 2021 No.29104536 Been playing full time online for the last 4 years and now im here investing in shitcoins

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:35:01 2021 No.29104585 >>29101741 Damn localbitcoins, miss this stuff

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:36:27 2021 No.29104655 >>29104316 And here is how awful Matusow is. And adelstein ruining him https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9OhSx9w0tYo

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:37:43 2021 No.29104733 >>29104471 pausing it on the flop to press S because I know it is gonna be runner runner gut shot or some shit lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:41:02 2021 No.29104906 >>29104471 hashahah held, nice. Losing his whole stack with flopped set against runner would have been some gay shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:42:51 2021 No.29105002 >>29104733 That Andy guy is REALLY fucking good. The fact that he called that 3 bet with Q10 on the flop was awful. Even with 2 queens out there was terrible.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:44:40 2021 No.29105106 How much does a professional player earns montly? Can a bot outperform a professional player?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:44:48 2021 No.29105112 >>29101964 There is no comparison in playing a game for money to video games, I played all the games in your list, dk for years, lol for years, it doesn't compare, money games are 100% adrenaline

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:44:51 2021 No.29105114 >>29104171 Yeah 1/2. All they spread here

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:48:40 2021 No.29105331

I played in real life a bit, and in the past on full tilt for free matches and qualifiers before they shut it down. Just last week I signed up to Bovada to try for some micro games in cash since it's allowed again.
I'm very slowly growing. At the 2 cent 5 cent no limit tables, 2 tables a time, if I play 8 hours or so, I'm up about 10-20$ per day.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:50:26 2021 No.29105426

>>29097251
https://blockchain.poker/ unironically the best platform I’ve used for online games
you can host tournaments and make btc/bch if enough people buy in, there’s freerolls all the time (usually only a couple thousand BCH sats though) and their roadmap progress has been great this year. Playerbase skyrocketed with lockdowns. They don’t have provably fairness yet but it’s been in the works afaik

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:50:28 2021 No.29105429

>>29105106
depends on your bankroll just like forex and stocks. You only want to risk about 10 percent of your bankroll on strict bankroll management. A lot of pros will risk more however because they know their winning percentage is higher than the numbers should be because of how good they are. They are also degenarte gamblers and can win 200 grand in one night playing poker and lose 300k the next day on a sports bet.

I built a bankroll to 200k from 0 once just free rolling to see how high I could get it. I have done it numerous times, start at zero and get it to the 100k's

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:54:03 2021 No.29105609 >>29105426 oh and you can host homegames on here easily with password tourneys, which is how I found it originally when we were forced to move our games online last year

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:54:23 2021 No.29105625 >>29105426 Really? How many players peak times

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:57:48 2021 No.29105797 >>29105426 lol I remem this site, someone linked it on /biz/ like a year or two ago and I went there and 10x'd the free stack they give you and never went back

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:58:16 2021 No.29105823 >>29104536 Nice

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 00:59:14 2021 No.29105874

>>29105429
That is really crazy, how long it took for you to achieve this ability? How one learns to play poker? I used to play with friends when I was young, but I basically would all in all the time, and I would get everyone money fast or lose all fast, never had patience.

What are the chances of a bot to achieve from zero to 200K?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:01:31 2021 No.29105976 i genuinely don't understand poker. clearly there's something there but doesn't it literally come down to what cards you get?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:03:25 2021 No.29106069 >>29103369 >I hate fucking rebuy tournies bro, they're all rebuys now. not like the classic rebuy/add on they're just all unlimited rebuys so they can make sure the guarantee is hit

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:04:08 2021 No.29106092 >>29105976 playing the % odds with correct bet sizing, essentially knowing when to hold em and when to fold em and not getting ego or cocky, similar to crypto in a lot of ways.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:04:29 2021 No.29106103 >>29105976 i think most pros will tell you it's more about position than cards

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:04:32 2021 No.29106107

>>29105874
Bots are illegal on most sites, if not all. If you get caught using one they will cancel your account and keep the money. I can easily spot a bot at my table in an hour or so playing at it.

As far as how long it took me is hard to say really. I played poker my whole life but never really played seriously until about 2002 or so. I learned all the math and played my proverbial "10,000" hands.

Most people who are sharks will tell you it will take you 10k hands to be at real world level status. However long it takes you to get in 10k hands is up to you. I would say from the time I got serious about poker until I was someone who can sit down with world class players and hold my own was about 3 years of playing all weekend every weekend when I was in college.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:10:33 2021 No.29106409 >>29097251 I use http://vip.flashroyal.org/ and eternalcasino.com Profits from vip.flashroyal goes to buy 0xMR on Uniswap. 0xMR token is being integrated into eternalcasino so you can play live poker with 0xMonero.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:11:09 2021 No.29106431 >>29105426 be careful with that site my dude. Shit tons of these little 3grand software btc poker rooms did exit scams when they got enough people to deposit on them. I was always extremely careful with how much BTC I would ever keep on a site.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:13:28 2021 No.29106535 >>29105874 Do you have a pokersite to learn? Like there are sites like lichess and chess.com for chess games, that teaches you things and analyses games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:13:41 2021 No.29106541 >>29105429 I use the 10% rule, but What do you mean "free rolling?" Are you that guy who plays the crappy mid tier hands and just goes in all over the place?

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:14:02 2021 No.29106553

>>29097251
Pokerstars, ggpoker isnwhere I usually play. Been too busy lately

I watch johnathan littles youtube vids goes over gto and ranges well. Seriously contemplated signing up for his pokercoaching website, as well as picking up the modern poker theory book

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:14:27 2021 No.29106576 >>29097251 Lotto coin.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:14:58 2021 No.29106601 >>29101217 How do I git gud to fleece fishies? Never played in my life btw, but I like the idea of learning a completely new skill.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:16:06 2021 No.29106639 >>29105976 There is a luck element, but there are also many skill elements; knowing hands, odds, bets, table position, tells, bluffs, and so on. A skilled player can get a leg up on the luck portion.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:19:10 2021 No.29106774 >>29106107 Do you have a pokersite to learn? Like there are sites like lichess and chess.com for chess games, that teaches you things and analyses games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:19:50 2021 No.29106804 how long does it take to get good at poker

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:21:00 2021 No.29106883

>>29106804
>>29106107

>As far as how long it took me is hard to say really. I played poker my whole life but never really played seriously until about 2002 or so. I learned all the math and played my proverbial "10,000" hands.
>Most people who are sharks will tell you it will take you 10k hands to be at real world level status. However long it takes you to get in 10k hands is up to you. I would say from the time I got serious about poker until I was someone who can sit down with world class players and hold my own was about 3 years of playing all weekend every weekend when I was in college.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:21:03 2021 No.29106884 >>29106804 the game that takes 5 minutes to learn and a lifetime to master

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:25:05 2021 No.29107103

>>29106541
Do you think those guys make millions of dollars off playing poker?

A free roll is a game that is free to play with a few bucks payout. You win a free roll then play the cheap tables or little sit and gos until you build up to about 30 bucks or so and you can start buying into 10 dollar sit and gos and you are on your way then because you are making enough to buy into big tournies. I can cash about 80 percent of 10 player sit and gos at any buy in. The hardest part is making the first 10 bucks after that hell I can be in the 1000's in about 2 weeks or so

>>29106601
start off with a book for beginners like hellmuths it is p good. Then learn all the math backwards and forwards then get in your 10k hands

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:25:15 2021 No.29107111 File: 69 KB, 300x300, 38AC52BD-7518-4A2D-9B6F-EA12FF5FCF89.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>29097251 Funfair is the only way to gamble where the odds aren’t stacked against you. Buy FUN and have a helluva time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:27:08 2021 No.29107195 >>29106884 i thought it was just like math tho about when u bet and stuff based on your odds of winning shouldnt that be fast to learn

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:27:45 2021 No.29107224

>>29106774
no, I would fo what I just told the other anon or you can just get a good coach. I met my last gf on twitch she was just donking around playing poker streaming and I found her and thought she was cute (she is literally a dime) and just started giving her pointers and sending her btc to play at the sites I was playing at etc. I made her a winning player in about 2 weeks. I mean a basically wrote little books just for her of certain odds, certain plays etc

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:32:03 2021 No.29107437

>>29107195
nah, psychology, gut, bankroll management. Anyone can learn the odds and win some hands but very few people have the discipline to make a living from it.

There is a lot of stealth and deception to poker you cant learn from a book, only by playing with top players and being smarter than average yourself.

Think about people who cheat on their spouses. Anyone can go out and fuck and get caught but can you have an affair with multiple women for a decade and not get caught? Same concept

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:36:40 2021 No.29107669 >>29107437 what if u just play online does that stuff still matter?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:37:20 2021 No.29107701 >>29106107 >>29106883 >10k hands want to hear something crazy? every site now has a version of cash called "fold n go/ fast" they all have their own name, "blitz" "rush" etc. In my most recent HUD, I logged 10k hands 3-tabling in a month. no joke

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:38:52 2021 No.29107790 >>29107701 im sorry, 50k hands in a month you can get 1000 hands in about 2-3 hours

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:41:52 2021 No.29107950 >>29107669 even more >>29107701 Yah you can log em pretty quick multi tabling online. In the old days it was a lot tougher when you had to do it irl

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:42:58 2021 No.29108007 >>29107790 I dont think you get the same value from 10k hands like that as you do playing singles though. I wouldnt multi table until you get past 10k not to get to it

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:43:30 2021 No.29108031 >>29097251 How do you play poker online w/o the reading faces aspect of poker, and it doesn't just become a statistics tournament?

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:43:59 2021 No.29108046

>>29107195
Its basic math for knowing when to call etc with pot odds. But also for knowing if you bluff in x spot. How much do you bluff? If you bet x amount and lose how often would your bluff have to work in order to be profitable? Depends on what your opponents range is
Now how do you construct your opponents range?
Basic math and playing solid poker will beat microstakes and 1/2 live in most cases

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:46:07 2021 No.29108150 rofl I just got donked by K10 of hearts with KK on that blocchain site all in pre flop. donkey flopped a flush draw and inside str8 and hit the gut shot on the turn.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:46:13 2021 No.29108155

>>29107103
oh i got you, my bad, I forget that's what they were called. So you think the sit an gos are the way to go versus the regular ring/ round tables?

With the ring tables I can creep up and don't get blinded out by raised blinds and antes, but it takes forever.
With the tourneys its' more like bar play, but you get bumped by blinds if you can't catch some action in time.

Maybe I'll try some. When I was playing in bars I would final table maybe 80% or more of the time, and almost never end in the bottom half of the field. I even came in 1st 3 times with 35-70 players. I'll have to look at the payout schedules more closely.
Any specific type of sit and go you recommend ?

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:47:48 2021 No.29108248

>>29107103
oh and no forgot to mention, I know they don't that's why I was asking, I always hope I catch a good hand so I can be the one to take their money heheh, cause they may have swings that look tempting, but in the long run they are paying someone else.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:50:26 2021 No.29108374

>>29101217
Would you recommend someone new to start playing online poker? How small should they start off with? Never done it before but if I could profit some crypto off of it, I don't mind giving it a shot and hitting the books like one that you mentioned.

Always open to new sources of income for investing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:52:51 2021 No.29108499 >>29098007 >>29100879 there are better ways to make money now, simple as >very difficult and very risky 0 sum game >very easy moderately risky + sum game

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:53:03 2021 No.29108507 one sec guys I am in 2nd in this tourny and the clock is fast af and will fold me I will come back after I win it

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:54:27 2021 No.29108576

>>29106409
nope. 0xmonero is still vaporware bullshit
just like the last hundred times you spammed it
stop trying to steal from people by lying to them about the capabilities of the project
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoMoonShots/comments/i27fhk/0xmonero_summary_of_findings/
>>/biz/thread/S24750658#p24755504
another recent beatdown >>/biz/thread/S28670476

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 01:56:46 2021 No.29108685

>>29106431
Good point, I don’t think theyre a scam based on the way they replied to my suggestions for re-buy calculations, but always could be I guess. When we first stopped playing in person we tried a few sites and this had the most customization options for private tourneys. Instead of everyone piling money on there though, we all chipped in for like $50 worth of BCH at the time and distributed it around. We’d host tournaments with like a $0.003 buy-in on the site but would pay the winners at the end with real money thru paypal or something like that.
We tried WSOP and a handful of other garbage casino-run poker sites, almost none had private tourneys and the ones that did sucked and were extremely limited

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:12:28 2021 No.29109384 >>29108499 like what

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:13:44 2021 No.29109440

>>29109384
like crypto, OP was wondering why people on /biz/ don't talk about poker anymore and it's because grinding every day for a 60/40 shot at making 2% off your bankroll is so much worse than reading about some crypto projects and then going 10x over a month

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:14:48 2021 No.29109488 >>29109440 dont u have to watch crypto crab for 4 year periods in between bull runs tho

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:16:02 2021 No.29109550

>>29101217
1. Why ex? Did you just get bored and retire?
2. Saw a comment where you mentioned playing in 2002, so you are 40ish?
3. How much did/do you play between live/online?
4. I'm a fledgling live semipro; can beat 1/2 - 2/5 comfortably with biggest edge being exploiting passive tendency of the live low stakes pool and live reads/tells. Obviously I have a decent understanding of the general theory, but I honestly haven't spent much time diving deep into GTO or thorough study of frequencies, etc. Would it make more sense to gradually study those more and slowly implement it into my live play, or go balls deep studying it and practice it with tons of hands online before retransitioning to live with the newfound technical skills? I have about 2k hours live exp and only maybe 3k nonserious hands online, strong math ability but never applied to serious GTO study.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:17:27 2021 No.29109618 >>29109488 Well, you got a point in that, let's see how things go in this one, we are having some institutional buy, maybe more fun stuff happens and we don't crab for months.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:20:12 2021 No.29109734 Can I use this kind of thing while playing? https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-tools/odds-calculator/texas-holdem

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:23:12 2021 No.29109870

>>29109618
It's hard to read. In one way looks like a bullish next few months, on the other hand it "really is due for a larger correction."
My "guess" is a mid size crash some time in March, then a recovery over next few months, but it's just an armchair take.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:24:10 2021 No.29109921 >>29109734 it wouldnt be helpful, all ins preflop already have a percentage thing for you usually

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:26:05 2021 No.29109998

>>29108155
idk man I prefer tournies online myself and cash games irl. To each his own, it is just my style and how I make the best money. I generally play a 10 person sit and go I mean you can but into them up to 1k. I can make money playing them all day sometimes 10k in day.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:26:46 2021 No.29110026 I wish I could win some money playing chess, anyone knows where I could play? That would turn of bad, because the best bot are already easy available to anyone.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:28:51 2021 No.29110109

>>29108374
Sure, it is the fastest way to get in 10k hands. I wouldnt think of it as a source of income for investing. If you want to make serious money you have to be all in with it especially now a days. Right now is peak poker, in the past you could make millions pretty easily off of fish but with the internet and population all time highs instead of maybe having one other player on your table is decent now you can have 4 sharks on a single table.

Still plenty of easy money out there though for good players.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:29:34 2021 No.29110140 >>29097251 I can't play online poker anymore, I can beat up to the 1/2 games but after having played highstakes I just can't help myself and eventually try to atleast play 10/20 or higher taking shots and eventually bust.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:30:38 2021 No.29110188 >>29108685 yah no worries sound fun. Pokerstars has private free tournies if you want to just pay out through another medium

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:33:35 2021 No.29110311 >>29109440 >2% Why are you so forced?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:37:27 2021 No.29110475 File: 424 KB, 320x180, 1577870031280.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I play mahjong though

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:37:56 2021 No.29110494 >>29109734 Most apps have the percentage built in now.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:38:34 2021 No.29110519

>>29109550
1. I explained earlier I used a lot of drugs when I was playing poker for a living and when I quit drugs and booze I just quit gambling as well. Well kinda, I trade forex now, pretty much exactly the same as poker in the mechanics but bigger payouts with a lot less work.

As Doyle Brunson used to say "Poker is a tough way to make an easy living." You will get burned out eventually, at least I did. I got burned out as a software dev too though, I just like moving on to new things I guess in that regard.

2. Yes

3. Depends on the time period. I preferred online just because I like the comfort of my home to get high and play poker in if I just want a game. I do love playing at the casino though if I want to be around people, hot chicks as well. Just depends on your mood really. When I was in college I lived in GA and there were no casinos anywhere to play at. I am from Louisville KY though with a riverboat casino about 15 aways from where I grew up so I spent a lot of time there too.

I would practice it online. You can do plays you wouldnt do live. Online is a totally diff game really, online you have to perfect your math game, the tells online are totally diff than irl. Again though everyone is different, so just do what makes you feel most comfortable would be my advice. You can get more hands way faster online so your learning curve will be a lot shorter if you practice there first

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:39:25 2021 No.29110548

>>29097251
Just play EV+
It's not hard
It's not fun
It's boring AF
Even poker in real life is trash, sitting at a table slowly winning against insufferable full time poker wannabees is literal hell. It also makes me spill my chips because I want to subconsciously GTFO. And don't get me started on the fat guy eating into my hussle sitting at the table with 90% of the chips.
Bitch let me move tables.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:41:08 2021 No.29110620 >>29110140 Sorry to hear man

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:42:37 2021 No.29110697 >>29110188 Is PokerStars now full of sharks too? I do get some good players sometimes, I'm very disciplined do I dont overdue my luck

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:42:53 2021 No.29110709 Bodog started this crypto shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:44:44 2021 No.29110782 >>29110697 Well I am from the US so I cant play there but pokerstars has always had the largest amount of best players, more donks too I suppose because they are the largest site in the world.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:45:23 2021 No.29110804 >>29097251 pokerstars, partypoker in 2009, i was a poor student and went from 300 initial investment to making 1.5k monthly. shit was rough due to stress and timezones...

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:47:17 2021 No.29110860 Degenerate gamblers

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:48:12 2021 No.29110902 >>29110782 True they have players from all over the world while US sites are usually limited to the US

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:49:14 2021 No.29110945 >>29110860 Are lost pollack?

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 02:57:06 2021 No.29111253

>>29110519
Interesting stuff, I can understand your mentality on it. Personally I find the game theory so interesting and love playing live sitting for 10-20 hrs sober with no problem, but we'll have to see how permanent that is. You trade forex, but surely you trade crypto as well? lol

What's an example of a play you could do online but not live? The only thing that comes to mind would be something requiring lots of leveling whereas live you would almost never go beyond 1 or 2 levels unless you have specific history with a player.

I know you're more online oriented but any insight into the live market? If you're comfortable sharing your general location right now and how the live games are and if private games are a lot more profitable than casino and how to get invited to those. I'm thinking about moving to Florida for the live scene that has decent money splashing around and more suitable politically than the other markets with money.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 03:03:21 2021 No.29111475 >>29099134 >T.every person ever

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 03:07:51 2021 No.29111640

>>29111253
>What's an example of a play you could do online but not live?

Doing power plays mostly. Stealing blinds and playing power poker is a lot easier online and people are used to it so you will get away with it a lot more than you will in live games because people playing live games dont tend understand a lot of power poker plays. Also making weird calls because of a read you have on someone and the reads on internet poker are more telling sometimes then irl tells like timing of their bets and size patterns etc. It is a lot easier to watch an entire table online and learn their tells and style of play.

Well you arent gonna get good live games unless you know people so your best if you prefer live is to move somewhere that has casinos. Florida is a nice spot, I have a condo in orlando myself. Their governor told that jew wannabe Biden to fuck off as well so they have that going for them.

I can tell just by the terms you use and how you talk about the game you will be fine. You will be a winning player if you arent already. If you want to play poker for a living move by a casino. Sticks casions are much better than vegas and tlantic city etc. They will be smaller so people who are regulars may get to know you more than a bigger place but that's fine. Mostly only the dealers and other regulars get to know regulars at a card doom anyway. You sound young and hungry, only a few years into it but really into and making a go at it. You should be able to make a mill in less than 5 years if you stick with it, learn not to tilt and how to manage your money and dont pivl up bad habits that orbit gamblers and casions.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 03:08:01 2021 No.29111648 >>29097251 I lost more money by playing online poker than trading crypto

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 03:12:46 2021 No.29111839 >>29111253 you ever seen rounders? If not you should watch it. Every professional or wannabe professional will tell you it is the ONLY poker movie. https://okfreemovies.com/movies/rounders-1998 it is the nuts as they say

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 03:13:00 2021 No.29111847

I used to play a lot like 10 years ago, mostly microstakes cause my bankroll was like 300usd lmao. Reading about it makes me want to go back though but I know the grind can be relentless on your mental health. Is there still money to be made on online MTTs? Enough to justify sinking time into it I mean.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 03:13:31 2021 No.29111861 >>29111648 I think that's the idea

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 03:14:07 2021 No.29111882 File: 21 KB, 200x181, bobo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>29111648 I was the one that took most of it

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 03:15:45 2021 No.29111949 >>29097251 >tried to deposit btc on tigergaming >25$ transfer fee doesnt let me choose lower fee options why are those sites are always fucking scam

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 03:18:59 2021 No.29112092 >>29111949 never payed in BTC sites anon, but yeah its hard to find something in crypto that is not a scam

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 03:23:19 2021 No.29112256

>>29111640
>It is a lot easier to watch an entire table online and learn their tells and style of play.
this is something I feel people overlook a lot, I can win many plays by just anticipating the players because I read the entire table at the same time meanwhile in live poker you can't read much of anything because you may be distracted by something else

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 03:41:53 2021 No.29113025

>>29111640
>Doing power plays mostly. Stealing blinds and playing power poker
Interesting you think that; I haven't played online seriously enough to tell, but I've had solid success doing a lot of that live. It's funny because if the table is all superdonks you're better off playing ABC but with slightly better badregs-midwits I think there are so many unbalanced tendencies to exploit.

Yeah I have a decent winrate currently but love hearing anything about others' experience in the scene. There have been a few threads like this on biz in the past. I've just been getting more and more into poker and have a strong mental game/financial management so pretty confident about committing to it. Just a matter of learning more which I like to do with a little trial and error but it's always great to pick up pieces of knowledge from someone with exp. Thanks a lot for the detailed answers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 03:44:41 2021 No.29113133 >>29111839 I actually haven't but have ofc heard it recommended as such pretty often. I definitely mean to sometime when I get around to it lol.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 03:50:17 2021 No.29113368 >>29113133 you must be young anon also checked

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 03:52:40 2021 No.29113489

>>29113133
>>29113025
YW, I am always willing to help out people who want to know things it takes years to learn on your own the hard way. Sadly most zoomers are too retarded to learn things the easy way these days. Or the EASIER way anyway. There is nothing new under the sun and anything you think you know in this world there is someone out there will show you show something that can flip your entire reality and paradigm upside down. The key to successful people is they know how to spot and listen to those people, not even just irl but the right books, the right videos etc et. Most success comes from getting advice from the right people in life and you never know where you may run into them.

>>29113133
watch it now, it is 100% essential for any card player because of how accurate and real it is. Good luck little bro, keep flopping aces and dragging monsters

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:10:22 2021 No.29114247
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>>29097251
i am a nerd who runs sims all day and plays mid stakes and occasionally high stakes, also does a little bit of coaching
i make enough to be able to avoid interacting with people in real life
i would recommend not playing poker, almost nobody "makes it", and even if you make it it's repetitive and somewhat depressing

on the flip side many of the people i know in poker have become fairly wealthy by just having a small amount of cryptocurrency since forever, as crypto has always been used by players to skirt restrictive banking regulations
sadly i am not one of these people because

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:14:52 2021 No.29114435 btw for you omaha players I am the only person who ever got quads and and a straight flush in the same hand that I know of. I posted pictures of it on imgur years ago but lost the address

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:17:32 2021 No.29114548 >>29113025 me with sugar ray Leonard https://imgur.com/gallery/rXbNcHc

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:25:34 2021 No.29114903

>>29114247
I know BTC since it released the first beta and even had the first 4000 free coins, I was young didn't care, formatted my pc, today I'm poor, have some crypto but nothing compared to what I could have if I only had the insight of trying to invest or keep my crypto...

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:27:14 2021 No.29114972 [DELETED]

>>29113489
Fully agree with you. Actually depending on your interest level, would you want to answer more technical poker questions in the future? I have resources to study/plans to execute in the short term but would appreciate more technical guidance in the longer term if you're open to it. If so send me an email at pecuniafactorem at protonmail. FWIW I'm probably a bit older than you think (late 20s not that it matters), but only just cured my 10+ year depression so getting back into pursuing my goals hardcore. And OK I'll watch the movie; thought it might be Hollywooded tripe but if you describe it that way I'll prioritize it.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:35:27 2021 No.29115345

>>29114972
here take this, I wrote it for my ex so ignore any shit personally to her. This document is priceless and has turned numerous fresh off the boat newfags into winning players overnight
https://matrix-client.matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/pYetfwYhQgowDdUfUPtWIYFZ

this is my riot server if you ever want to join. It is like a /biz/ without threads, shitposting and prepping for the apocalypse etc.
https://riot.im/app/#/room/#oathoftheblacksun:matrix.org

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:35:57 2021 No.29115375 >>29113489 >Most success comes from getting advice from the right people in life and you never know where you may run into them. based

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:40:45 2021 No.29115557

>>29110109
This red ID guy is an absolute retard and 100% a larp, he has absolutely no clue what the fuck he is talking about, speaks like the local loser who dumps his paycheck at the 1/2 live games and thinks that he is hot shit. No competent poker player thinks and talks like this ever, first of all 10k hands is something you play in a week and not even any kind of a sample. Actually everything he posted is complete nonsense in the same fashion, but I don't care enough to respond to all of it.

t. made 275k in online cash games from 2014-2018

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:45:00 2021 No.29115748 its illegal in tx sadly

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:47:47 2021 No.29115871

>>29115557
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
the post

Always at least one idiot in a thread calling everyone else idiots. Get fukt I will rek you chump. My poker name was jamatrix and I assure you if you ask around to any players who actually make money, unlike you, they know exactly who I am

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:49:25 2021 No.29115936 >>29114247 He actually knows what he's talking about, though. >>29115871 lol nice delusions retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:49:59 2021 No.29115966 >>29115557 1ok hands is in reference to calculating your roi you absolute tool LARPtard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:50:17 2021 No.29115978 I play monthly with friends, we do $20 buy in and winner takes all. I think I'm up like a couple hundred since I've won a few times.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:50:41 2021 No.29115996

>>29097251
I play on betonline and live
I made 5k last month playing in between college classes, and this month I'm up a thousand as of now, but im gunna go play live next weekend.
I mostly watch polk and ginge
ginge
>>29098684
Betonline is the best. They offer good midstakes tournies (33$-110$) and payout extremely fast. Also, they've done a great job at getting rid of the bots.
I hate Ignition
>>29101135
this. casinos just reopened for me, and im lovin it
>>29101217
how often did you have 10 buy in swings?
>>29101473
it really is. The fish love it, cuz the edge isnt as big
>>29103911
based af, GETTEM!! Is that at Chumash?
>>29105426
They added poker? I remember they only roulette and others before. I'll have to check that out
>>29109440
I use poker to fund my shitcoins

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:54:20 2021 No.29116144 >>29115936 10k hands takes 400 hours in live games you donkey faggot

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:56:17 2021 No.29116229

>>29115871
Also I've been around the poker community very actively and have never heard anyone by that name, so I did ask Google and all I got were results about bikes and a musician from Uganda with 1 like on his profile. You genuinely are the most schizo person I have ever seen on this site. Unironically take your meds.

>>29115966
The way you use these terms reveals to anyone halfway competent player that you have no idea what they mean.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:56:34 2021 No.29116244

>>29115996
depends, sometimes you can just run bad it comes and goes in cycles. It would be pretty rare to swing that bad however but it will defintely happen. I mean losing 1 outters two outters kk to 22 all in pre-flop. Shit you would think the odds are impossible to happen will happen. It is why you have to play to make the right play not to wint he pot. Whether you win the pot or not doesnt matter, what matters is you make the right plays consistently to take more pots than you lose over a range of time

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:57:44 2021 No.29116299
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>>29116144
and 400 hours in live games isn't even close to a good sample for determining your winrate
in about 3k live hours i have one 400hr sample where i made $0, and another where i made about triple my overall winrate

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 04:57:49 2021 No.29116305 >>29116229 lol I took seriously for about 5 mintues now I can see you are a stone cold retard or just trolling. No one can be this retarded while calling other people retarded, then again this is 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:01:47 2021 No.29116461 >>29116299 10k is the standard bud, always has been do you retards know anything?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:01:50 2021 No.29116464 >>29116299 omg thats so much >>29116305 true there is a always some very misguided trolls in 4chan

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:01:59 2021 No.29116475 >>29115871 >jamatrix literally never heard of you

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:03:39 2021 No.29116541

>>29116299
>hrs
>winrate
Wanna know how I know you know nother about math? You are comparing apples ornages. There is nothing of value you can learn from how much you win in a period of time other than to tell your wife when you will be home for dinner. It is an absolutely useless metric other than a novelty for your own mental mastrubation.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:06:41 2021 No.29116688
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>>29116461
it may have been a standard in some form a very long time ago, but it really isn't anymore
you can even search in 2p2 and people there tend to say 1k hours at least, which is still too low
but both figures are simply way too low (and 400 hours is borderline ridiculous)
here's a very simple tool that will simulate any sample given a certain winrate and standard deviation
pic related you can see a very skilled (20BB/100) player playing a game with medium variance over 10khands/400hours and just how inconclusive their results will be over 20 trials
feel free to do more here: https://www.primedope.com/poker-variance-calculator/

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:07:01 2021 No.29116708 >>29116305 I'd be happy to play you desu, you actually got any money on any poker site?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:12:06 2021 No.29116948 >>29116708 >275k >over multiple years I lol'd. I won 400k in one tourney bud

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:13:42 2021 No.29117011 File: 8 KB, 306x165, index.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>29116948

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:15:24 2021 No.29117094 >>29117011 I played with jamie gold at seals, he is a spastic retard, you remind me of him

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:16:11 2021 No.29117131 >>29117094 that's not very nice of you

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:18:41 2021 No.29117255 >>29117131 oh my bad I thought you were the mouthy dumbass because you both have purple ids

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:25:02 2021 No.29117561

>>29116299
everything below 1 mln hands is low sample size and even then if your winrate is relative low (standard for todays online poker) you can be break even despite being a winning 5bb/100 player, variance is a bitch
https://www.primedope.com/poker-variance-calculator/

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:26:57 2021 No.29117654 File: 153 KB, 1280x800, image_2021-02-19_052629.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>29116708 holla when you got a dolla broke fag

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:30:17 2021 No.29117816 >>29117561 you linked me to the same variance calculator that i just linked

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:34:24 2021 No.29118010

>>29117654
anon none of your usage of encrypted stuff and p2p/matrix stuff means anything if you use Opera, that is basically google chrome rebranded and they literally keep a log of everything you see, type, post, etc.

https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/browsers.html#opera

if you ever get into legal trouble and they want to look at your history they are maybe a few clicks away depending on the agency.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:35:36 2021 No.29118070

>>29097251
I played poker professionally for 10 years but I've been trading stocks since casinos shut down in the US, only played in a few private games since the shutdown.

I used to play online quite a lot, on all the sites before black friday (burger), thing is I didn't get burned on black friday because I never kept a big amount on any site, I was always trying to get my money off the sites as fast as possible because I never trusted the online sites. You'd be a fool to keep a lot of money on a fucking online casino for a very long period of time.

When I played online regularly I averaged around $8k a month playing a bunch of tables at different stakes, mostly $200 HUNLHE and when I switched to playing live I averaged about $100 an hour mostly playing $5/$5/$10 NL and $3/$5 PLO. I've won a few tournaments but I've never been much of a tournament player, play them very rarely because to me tournaments are a huge waste of time when I could just play cash games instead.

I don't really watch a lot of videos or streamers, they're mostly for entertainment imo and >>29101964 is right in that there are a lot more entertaining games than poker. The thing is I don't give a single fuck about poker the game as a game, poker is a soft hustle I play poker for money. If there was no money in poker I wouldn't play it but there's a lot of easy money in poker and there always will be.

There's still money you can make online but you have to recognize it is MUCH easier to get cheated online. People have been colluding with each other in the same room, using bots, getting superuser accounts, hacking other players to see their hole cards, exit scamming players for all their deposits etc since the very first days of partypoker. You can still win online, but you have to recognize it is easy to get cheated and also if you do get cheated online nobody is going to give a fuck if you do.

It's just something you have to factor into the cost-benefit analysis of an online

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:38:34 2021 No.29118202

>>29118010
My dgeree is in computer science I know how to cover my tracks mate but ty for looking out.

Most of the time I use brave actually but the flashplayer was acting wonkey and I watch movies at topnow.se and they wont play in brave. I actually hadnt used opera for like 3 years up until a week ago other than to stream movies on twitch with my ex

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:40:13 2021 No.29118260 >>29118070 Where do you play 5/5/10 and how much could you make playing 2/5 there?

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:41:20 2021 No.29118313

Funny thing, I played online poker in 2010-2011, never really made any money from it and was always annoyed to have missed the 'golden era' of online poker of 2003-2006 which was like printing free money. Meanwhile I could have invested in bitcoin and be a millionaire now. Wonder what golden opportunities I'm missing right this moment.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:47:22 2021 No.29118570

>>29118260
I play in LA where there isn't $2/$5 games, only $3/$5 and $5/$5 and $5/$5 generally turns into $5/$5/$10 as soon as people decide to put the straddle on, and when I'm in a game, any game, I'm always trying to get the straddle put on as soon as possible because 2 blind NL sucks dick 3 blind NL is a much, much better game. I actually wouldn't play a 2 blind 100 big blind game at this point in my career I either like to play 3 blind, uncapped $5/$10, or an ante game. 2 blind 100bb NL is gay solved bullshit that attracts nits and primarily online player autists who ruin the game and 3 blind/ante/deepstacked games are action games that scare those kinds of players away and make for much better games. The last time I played $2/$5 was like 8-9 years ago in Vegas during one of my first WSOPs, now when I go to the WSOP I like to play much bigger cash games than I usually do so it's been a long ass time since I've played $2/$5 and I don't know what winrates are like for those games, you can probably average like $40/hr in a $2/$5 game if you're a good player with good game selection? I have no idea honestly.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:47:49 2021 No.29118588

>>29118070
this, this guy was an actual winning player unlike the larptard that was here running lip. I bascially said all this already. It was absolute that has a hole card viewer I think. Lots of sites did exit scams so I was the same way I would only keep like a two to three grand max on them most of the time. Even the old school pros were ripping people off likle Jesus Ferguson and Doyle Brunson with Doyle's room I think it was. It was the wild west just like crypto. You could make unreal quick gains but then get got for your gains in an instant.

I trust betonline and Americas car room atm if I was going to play but that is about it. I wonder is pacific poker (or 888) is still around

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:50:07 2021 No.29118682

>>29118588
oh and seals with clubs too if you want to play BTC poker. I knew the owners perosnally and there is an interview with me and the owner still on the internet somewhere and he had ample opportunities to scam and leave a multimillionaire ofr years and never did, it is still around so I will give him that. Fucking jew too if you can believe that, Bryan Micon

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:50:41 2021 No.29118710 >>29118202 brave is actually even worse then opera rn, but I mean unless you get into some fucked legal shit I don't see anything happening in this regard. take a look at the link I sent you they also talk about brave.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:51:43 2021 No.29118753 >>29118313 >Wonder what golden opportunities I'm missing right this moment. same...

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:51:43 2021 No.29118754

>>29118588
Ya there's tons of players who have made a killing online it's just something that you have to factor into the cost-benefit analysis that you can get cheated or scammed when you play. It's the same as when I go to play in an underground game today, part of the cost-benefit analysis is that I have to factor in the chance that the game could get robbed or shut down by the cops and everyone gets their money stolen. I take that into consideration and then I think, is the game still worth playing compared to any other game I could play in? If the answer is yes then game on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:51:55 2021 No.29118762 >>29118710 I read some of it, it mentioned Tobin but he is using a forked version of brave called dissinter. Not really the same thing, maybe I missed something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:52:05 2021 No.29118773 >>29118313 if u didnt win in 2010-2011 you wouldn't have won in 2003-2006 either..

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:52:54 2021 No.29118816

Why is everyone on /biz/ so negative about everything.
I love poker, I'm a mid-stakes player and I was really excited to see someone post about it to be honest and everyone is so fucking negative.
>uh yeah I'm a poker pro, made like 10 trillion playing poker, it sucks though league of legends is better

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:55:20 2021 No.29118921

>>29118682
SWC was based, I didn't play a whole lot on seals but I did have an account on seals and made some good money on there because it had 2 features that were extremely sick. 1 was a global chat room so you could lurk in the chat and see which players were on tilt and then go sit their table, which was free money, and the other feature was that they had a built in staking system which let you stake players and get an immediate payout without any chance of them running off with the winnings, which was awesome. There was one player on SWC who would play the daily NL tournaments and final table them at an insanely high rate, like the highest of any tournament player I've ever seen, and then take the money he won every day and go sit down at the biggest PLO table he could sit at and lose fucking all of it lol and then come back in chat the next day begging for a stake. I staked him every day for a long time and watched him do the exact same thing over and over again, dude just couldn't hold onto money for longer than an hour after he'd won it, but he made me good money.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 05:56:37 2021 No.29118969

>>29118754
yep, as I said I could tell instantly "the way you carry yourself" so to speak, you were a legit player.

>>29118816
it's this entire website really. There are lots of legit incels and nutters around here and people with severe anger issues and all kinds of fucked up afflictions.

I know we have some laughs and even get kinda pissy about redit and the journos and politicians calling us Nazis, and all that other shit because most of it is just horsing around and trolling for lolz for most of us but they arent completely wrong about toxic this place is for people that take shit here seriously. There are some really angry and shitty people who live on this website

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:01:08 2021 No.29119156

The poker boom is over, anyone who tells you otherwise is just delusional. The hourly online and live (non private games) is nit worth it given the hours of solver work and studying you have to do. Most decent players are using some sort of GTO real time assistance as well.
The amount of high IQ pros that have quit poker for crypto should tell you where the money is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:04:35 2021 No.29119285 also every decent reg even down to the microsrakes are using real time assistance. Guts saying ben cb us based don't realise he runs a staking programme with collusion between his horses (you are the product lol)

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:05:14 2021 No.29119318

>>29118570
Interesting, I assume 3 blind just forces everyone to play much wider? What's the buyin range for 3/5 and 5/5 over there? You just built a bankroll for poker from zero with lower stakes or another income source? Also what's the typical preflop action in your game (sizing, aggressiveness, #p to flop)?

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:07:10 2021 No.29119401

>>29118921
THE FUCKING CHAT ROOM WAS THE SHIT KEK.

It was basically a 4chan poker room. Like people lurked there 24 7 like it was a discord server. You reme any of the names? I was jamatrix. I can name pretty much all the regulars if you think can rember any of them.

Foxmulder, donkdiggler, okcomputer, spitecheck, xela, marlais, bigmooky, mrcuzamano, offdahizzy etc tetc. There were rage tards, schizos, sharks, pros, complete donks etc etc. As I said if you were in that chat you wouldnt know the ifference between it and 4chan faggots.

I could go on forever. I was playing there 16 hours for like 4 years kek.

THE STAKING SYSTEM ROFL. Yah Ender's game/ I rooled an entire coin (BTC) on the dice command and won lol.

ROFL I think you are talking about big mooky. What was your name there? I was jamatrix

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:08:32 2021 No.29119459 >>29119401 16 hours a day

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:15:28 2021 No.29119766 >>29115345 Ty for calling me little miss cutie

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:21:49 2021 No.29120021 File: 1.10 MB, 1366x768, PhoneScreenSaver.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>29119766 kek nah that was her (pic rel). You learn what all that shit is in that doc and you will no question be a winning player in two weeks

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:25:27 2021 No.29120178 >>29120021 have any nudes?

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:27:12 2021 No.29120256

>>29119318
I'd been working jobs since I was like 14 so I already had some money and basically my story of how I started playing poker is I deposited $50 onto an online casino one day and ran it up to $8k in a few hours playing blackjack like a total maniac. I was super pumped and I had one friend who I knew was "a gambler" so I told him about it and told him I thought I had a system figured out that I could beat blackjack with. He broke it down to me really quickly and told me I was actually insanely lucky to have gone on a run like that, and that there's no system you can actually beat online blackjack with and that it's retard mentality to think you have a system for beating online casino games with. Then he told me that if I actually do have that much gamble in me though, that I should look into playing poker because he'd been playing poker for a long time and that poker was a game you actually could develop a system to win with because it's a game you play against other players, not a rigged game that you play against the house. The site I was playing on had poker so I started playing some really small games to learn and then I also met up with my friend and watched how he played and he taught me about the game some, then he introduced me to his other friend who was and still is a high stakes crusher who gave me some really good coaching and who still advises me on how I play to this day like 10 years later. So the short answer is I luckboxed into having a bankroll by starting to gamble with no idea what the fuck I was doing and then I had people I knew around me who could actually point me in the right direction and give me some coaching and get me started on being a winning player.

I usually buy in for $1000 which is the cap but if the game is already playing deep I'll sometimes "go north" and just add on a bunch of money to my stack anyways and usually the other players/the dealer never notice or never say anything about it if they do notice.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:27:25 2021 No.29120263 File: 44 KB, 450x800, black_ling.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>29120178 I do but why would I share them with you? Those are for me

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:28:12 2021 No.29120294 >>29120263 >essentially flat never mind

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:28:14 2021 No.29120296 >>29107701 Yeah right? The pros who multitable online easily clock in 100k hands a month. 10k is like 3 days...

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:28:35 2021 No.29120310 >tfw 25 years old >don't know how to play poker >no face Am I gonna make it?

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:28:49 2021 No.29120319
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>>29097251
>What you and where you playing?
Pokerstars
>How much you making?
from 100$ to around 10k$ in 6 months last year, had a break and now getting back into it, played every now and then before, now tryina make it a job since last year
>Videos and people to watch?
Bought their course and already learning a shit ton of useful stuff that helps for every game format
https://www.youtube.com/c/RaiseYourEdge/videos
>favorite streamers?
Waste of time unless you are playing at a high level or complete beginner and cant afford to buy any courses. But I guess Lex Veldhuis is aight.

I love pokerstars tournament serieses, they are one of the most exciting thing for me, you can score big during those and there is lots of fish and its fun to play all the different game formats.

Looking to win the SCOOP 2021 leaderboard this time, I made it to itm twice last year in the LB.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:31:31 2021 No.29120423 File: 198 KB, 384x381, tia.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>29120294 her body is a 10/10 not even joking, perfect everything. Victoria secrets body, it is making my mouth water just thinking about it, mumm hummm

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:31:58 2021 No.29120444

>>29119401
>jamatrix
I remember playing against you but can't remember if you held over me or not, don't really remember a lot of screen names from that site. I remember foxmulder too.

Most of my time on that site I bumhunted one specific player HU but I don't remember his SN. I do remember DMing people through the chat and offering to pay them money to leave the table and let me sit against him instead though lol.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:35:34 2021 No.29120627

>>29120444
HAHAHAH bumhunting I remem people using that term. I think you were hunting hizzy or okcomputer, he had another name too that was luddite and another one that was something else, pragmatic I believe.

I remem one guy sperging out saying peopel were cheating for bumhunting him. I bet it was you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:36:01 2021 No.29120642 >>29116461 Dude 100k hands was the standard to determining your true win rate like 11 years ago when I used to play. Stop embarrassing yourself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:39:12 2021 No.29120759 I like poker and I made some gains playing microstakes 2012ish but it's too much fucking work.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:40:18 2021 No.29120814 >>29120642 no you

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:42:28 2021 No.29120904 >>29116461 Winrate absolutely does not converge over 10k hands lol. That's less than a month of playing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:44:08 2021 No.29120978 >>29120814 you don't know what that means boomer

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:46:04 2021 No.29121072

>>29120904
>>29120978
I said ROI you absolute mongs. As in tracking your ROI over time. Goddamn you people are retarded. If you dont have a winning ROI in 10k hands you are never gonna win against a table of pros/sharks. Just stfu already you dipshits. I was a self made millionaire in my twenties from playing poker. You can talk shit about whatever the fuck you want but none of you will ever be half as good as me or accomplish what I did so talk shit all you want, I aint mad at ya.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:48:52 2021 No.29121225

>>29120642
Using a set number of hands to determine your win rate is and always has been kind of dumb because game conditions don't stay the same from room to room. If you're a 5bb/100 winner in one player pool you could be a loser in another and vis-versa. Like as a HU player when I played online I would never say "oh I could beat $200NL for xBB/100" because the reality is there were some players I'd crush and some players I couldn't crush. On blackchip poker me and dan colman were consistently #1 and #2 on the HU SNG leaderboard for a long time but basically broke even against each other when we would play against each other to accumulate more volume (the site played a huge rakeback bonus to the players with the most points on the leaderboard each month). Should we count all of those bajillions of hands into calculating our winrate even though we're both basically playing knowing we're going to break even and are doing it to grind rakeback? If you're a winning player over time you just know it and the only winrate that really matters is how much money can you take out of the game that you're in right now. It averages out to a set $ amount at the end of the month or the year when you do your accounting but "I'm an x/hour or x/100 winner" doesn't really tell you much about a player it's only a useful stat to mention when you're talking to non-poker players about poker and how you make a living from it.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:52:46 2021 No.29121404

kek your levels of based are endless. I basically said the exact same thing to these donks already >>29116541

apples and oranges comparison and how much you made in x hours is a literally a useless fucking metric that has zero value in anything other than saying stupid shit on online forums

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:55:33 2021 No.29121548

>>29121072

My dad invented poker and he says you're full of shit

>>29121225

You include rakeback in your bb/100 bro. The fact that you can go 10bb/100 against some players doesn't mean shit if you can't actually get a seat at such a table. If for whatever reason you're spending a lot of time playing against someone who you're breakeven with, that should be reflected in your bb/100. The whole point of bb/100 is to give you an accurate representation of your average hour takehome pay.

> the only winrate that really matters is how much money can you take out of the game that you're in right now.

No. If the best you can take home is 0bb/100 in the game you're in right now, you should leave the table and find a different game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:56:25 2021 No.29121580 >>29099134 If you have to ask, you're the fish lmao.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 06:59:42 2021 No.29121726 This thread is definitive proof that there's no money left in poker and the only people that still give a shit about it are nostalgic retards and complete autists.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 07:16:51 2021 No.29122473

>>29121726
There is always going to be money in gambling and poker is one of the best gambles out there because it's a very social gamble and it's the most public facing gateway to gambling and all of the vice that surrounds gambling. The only better gateway arguably is golf because golf attracts people with more money than most casinos do, but it also attracts people who are usually more conservative with their money so golf is the gateway to sllllloooooowwwww gambling whereas poker is the gateway to fast action junkie gambling.

I could walk into any casino or onto a golf course today and start making money gambling without even having to look at cards or pick up a golf club. That's pretty much always going to be the case for as long as the earth is still spinning around the sun.

The people who think "oh no I missed the moneymaker era poker is dead now there's no money left everyone is solid" ARE the nostalgic retards and complete autists because they have absolute tunnel vision on what poker is and how you make money gambling in the long run. People who think "oh no if only I could go back in time to the day partypoker opened and play knowing strategy from today, I'd make so much money, I could be 3betting suited connectors and hands like A5s out of the small blind and nobody would have any idea what the fuck I was doing I would just print money!!!!!' are dumb as fuck because they don't understand really how gambling works or how to make money from gambling and never will.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 07:21:55 2021 No.29122669

a healthy dose of autism unironcially will make you top of your game. I gaurantee all top players, like top stoke brokers etc have a bit of the tism to make them study that kind of math and perfect the use of it for hours, weeks, years on end. Not doing drugs while I played made me loose my tism edge. Most of being a winning player is crunching numbers for 16 hour straight at lightning speed while never getting bored of it

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 07:24:48 2021 No.29122793 >>29118754 >there's tons of players who have made a killing online long ago when tracking sites like ptr still worked they released stats and close to 95% of people were losing post rake.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 07:37:27 2021 No.29123365

>>29122793
ya that's how it is in poker, in casino poker I'd say it is about 2% of the player pool makes money post rake because rake is higher. still a lot of players who make money. you have to realize too that a lot of that player pool is people who play 3 times in a year never win and don't play again for another 2 years.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 07:40:41 2021 No.29123507

>>29122793
of course there are also players who play every day and lose just like there are players who play every day and win, but those players are roughly equal to the amount of winning players there are. i know people who have played at the same casino regularly since the 70s and have lost every year, but they're equally as rare as players who have played for that same amount of time and won every year. most of that 95% of losing players are people stopping in for one night of fun and dusting off a couple buyins before they go back to their regular lives with no plans to return for weeks months or years.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 07:41:04 2021 No.29123524 >>29097251 ngmi

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 07:42:39 2021 No.29123598 >>29097251 Have private tournament once a week. Typically 15 players. Online is not the same fun as being at a table

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 07:44:53 2021 No.29123690 >>29123507 People who player for a just a few nights a year actually have a relatively high chance of being net winners. Its prolonged exposure that makes the 95% losers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 07:51:36 2021 No.29124038 >>29123690 nah, they lose both, proglonged for them is winnign a pot and not getting up to leave. In a few hours they will be down

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 07:54:41 2021 No.29124211 I’m currently playing ten tables at a time and there seem to be more normies around

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 07:58:21 2021 No.29124410 >where's my fellow degens at?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:00:23 2021 No.29124512 File: 260 KB, 373x453, jag2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>29124410 holla when you got a dolla, I bought this jag after a good night

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:01:49 2021 No.29124609 >>29124512 What kind of highway mileage we looking at here

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:03:20 2021 No.29124697 >>29124609 kek wrong pic I only saw the filename I was changing the tire

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:07:07 2021 No.29124904 >>29124697 Lmao that's fucking hilarious, my original post was referring to Ryan depaulo hes a pretty funny poker YouTuber

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:09:46 2021 No.29125043 >>29111640 Lol I totally disagree with a lot of this. Might as well tell him to " move up to stakes where they respect your raises" You want to see power poker in a live setting? Watch live at the bike.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:12:02 2021 No.29125161 >>29114247 This is a legit post

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:12:48 2021 No.29125214

>>29125043
Well that's the thing about poker isn't it? Everyone thinks they are the GOAT and know better than everyone else.

I know how to win, I dont need to put it into words so every tom, dick and harry can copy my game. If they can win with their game then it's all gravy. The name of the game is raking pots. If someone is raking pots, what anyone else thinks about their methods is irrelevant.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:14:56 2021 No.29125339 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYMG0yY88pM good times

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:17:41 2021 No.29125503 >>29119156 This. I've made a million dollars in poker and any poker player not involved in crypto is absolutely wasting his life.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:19:52 2021 No.29125602

>>29125043
I wasnt talking about respecting raises anyway, I know it worded it bad but I didnt know how to explain it and it has been so long since I was sharp on this shit everyday anyway I dont remember a lot of it after 8 years out of the game. I have spent that time learning other shit that was more important to me and profitable.

I preferred online tournaments. That is where I made most of my money and it was comfortable and familiar for me and my style of play. That isnt to say I wasnt a great cash player too but I preferred tournaments and was more profitable at it over longer stretches.

Anyone who complains about people "not respe3cting their raises" you can know right then and there they are donks. They are bascially saying "I cant play post flop and people should let me win when I get agressive with slightly better odds or a coin flip pre-flop because I really meant it when I raised".

I eat fucktards talking about respecting raises for lunch all day everyday. I was talking about making moves on people. Donkeys are too dumb for you to make moves on because they aren't playing you, they are playing their shit tier losing draws.

I run bad against donks for some reason, I make the most off good players. donks hit and run and just donk until they donk you, at least with me that was the case.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:21:57 2021 No.29125706

>>29125339
kek that song. I used to know a guy who would lose all his money and I would have to send him money to get pizzas and shit using those card to card tranfers. Like this anon above was talking the staking system. I would stake a lot of players at seals just so they could play

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:25:31 2021 No.29125891 >>29097251 Poker pro here, i sense a second boom but the games are a lot tougher than in the past. you can sill make 200k a year if you study a lot

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:30:52 2021 No.29126212

>>29125602
No, what I am saying is that you are describing online low stakes dynamics that actually exists in a live game but at higher stakes "power moves". You don't know this because you simply don't play that high live.

Therefore you are actually just being a noob. I doubt it's consistent but you may make money in poker. I can tell already you lack fundamentals have never paid for a poker coach.

Take the redpill.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:34:45 2021 No.29126421 >>29115557 im pretty sure he's black and he's a boomer. he kind of knows what hes talking about when it comes to online but you can tell hes played mostly live. i was kind of disappointed too

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:36:39 2021 No.29126523

>>29126212
>You don't know this because you simply don't play that high live.
I lol'd. Did you bust a nit from jerking yourself off so hard? I played the nose bleeds donk. I do agree with what you are saying about higher stakes but he was literally asking about starting at lower stakes and my response was directly to that you midwit psued

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:38:01 2021 No.29126598 >>29126421 literally all that is the opposite of reality. Nice read donk

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:39:35 2021 No.29126685 Used to play 10-20k hands a day. Quit after a year though, just didn't want to spend any more time looking at the screen and clicking raise/call/fold. Atm I still play from time to time, small stakes and usually drunk though, standard degen stuff.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:40:46 2021 No.29126761 I made 3 million in 9 years. Dont watch videos, invest in solving

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:43:56 2021 No.29126947
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>>29097251
I normally play on bovada /ignition when I do play anymore. PLO and Texas holdem. I've been playing for years and now dont really play for crazy amounts anymore, just 100 cash tables at most.

I used to play much higher stakes although I wasn't properly rolled, I felt like a baller taking down thousands, until I got a couple of coolers back to back which set me on tilt while I was drunk, then I lost a good deal of money.

Since then I haven't really played for latlrge sums of money

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:44:22 2021 No.29126977 >>29126598 cheers m8, i give you credit for keeping this thread alive and bumped for 9 hours. you really should check out the developments they have in online poker now. it's a lot different than 10 years ago. shine on kang. t.jamatrix

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:46:08 2021 No.29127088 >>29126947 Cap please shut up

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:46:19 2021 No.29127097 File: 52 KB, 554x600, kang.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>29126977

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:46:29 2021 No.29127105

>>29126947
I would say plo might be more profitable depending on the site. Seems like the majority of people don't know how to play plo and make mistakes.

Then again, I was never the type to have 16 windows open with tracking and odds software, I just played for fun and if i wanted a rush I would move up stakes. Plo has bigger swings than holdem though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:48:01 2021 No.29127212 >>29126523 Of course you did since you know the term nosebleeds.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:48:59 2021 No.29127267 File: 3.08 MB, 420x431, N.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>29127097 kek

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:50:28 2021 No.29127353 >>29127212 I made 6500 bucks trading the bull run of the aussie dollar on forex while being in this thread what did you do kang?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:50:44 2021 No.29127370 how mathematical are you when playing poker? for me its almost pure intuition although i use certain concepts like kelly criterion

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:51:21 2021 No.29127410 >>29097251 I mostly play live these days or on PS when I feel the itch to play. 5/10 PLO. Isildur1 will always be my favorite player. I enjoy watching galfond when he streams because his insight into the great game is amazing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:54:08 2021 No.29127567 >>29127370 intuition is like the subconscious math imo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:54:45 2021 No.29127608 >>29127410 >Isildur1 I thought he had an epic meltdown

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:56:49 2021 No.29127728

>>29106107
>k me is hard to say really. I played poker my whole life but never really played seriously until about 2002 or so. I learned all the math and played my proverbial "10,000" hands.
>Most people who are sharks will tell you it will take you 10k hands to be at real world level status. However long it takes you to get in 10k hands is up to you. I would say from the tim

Sure you can spot a human using RTA on a seperate computer who will make the occasional "mistake" to throw off the sites flagging algos.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:58:31 2021 No.29127851 >>29127608 He's had a ton of epic meltdowns. But that's when I came in to poker when he was on Full Tilt playing everyone in HU NL, and is what made me want to focus on exclusively HU PLO

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 08:59:24 2021 No.29127910 >>29125891 If you make 200k in poker per year in poker you are probably in the top 1% of earnings and ability/IQ. Which leads me to believe you are lying or an idiot as you can make much more doing something else with your life.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 09:00:56 2021 No.29127992 >>29127728 it isnt just the odds of the hands of they are playing, it about robotic consistency with how they bet, how long they take, and how they play. Bots are easy to spot for a seasoned player

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 09:04:05 2021 No.29128192 >>29127992 >o spot for a seasoned player my point is it's harder to spot when someone using RTA to make decisions sacrifices EV in some spots to mix it up. Most of the Eatern Euro guys even on microstakes are doing this.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 09:09:04 2021 No.29128488

>>29128192
my point was making a losing play isnt what makes a bot easy to spot. As world class poker player and a computer scientist I know when a player is code and not human. The tells arent always the same tell it a combination of things that humans just dont do.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 09:10:16 2021 No.29128565 >>29127353 I know what cryptos this board is in favor of since 2017 :P

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 09:15:51 2021 No.29128936 Seals With Clubs is the best bitcoin poker site. It's filled with literal crackheads and trannies, I've never made such easy money online in my entire poker career

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 09:18:52 2021 No.29129131 >>29127851 I remember that too. He came in out of nowhere and crushed everyone until they literally teamed up to cheat him.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 09:23:12 2021 No.29129438 >>29120263 This your bf?

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 09:29:26 2021 No.29129916

>>29100660
>figured there had to be some other poker players here, that's actually how i got in to crypto a few years ago ironically enough. surprised there aren't more ITT
I was a hardcore mtt and sng grinder 07-11. Had some good scores but ran like shit overall.
Was just starting to run good and play a lot better then BF hit. Glad to be out of that lifestyle but its fun to reminisce and have the nostalgia.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 09:37:44 2021 No.29130562

>>29129916
i know it gets old after awhile but i love grinding sngs, like a few anons said though it's a such a thin line to be profitable, plus run good only like the top couple percent can even beat the game and the higher the stake the more you are just trading and collecting rakeback. not really worth it. i think thats why a lot of the online pros have gotten in to coaching now

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 09:41:46 2021 No.29130849

>>29129131
that guy was insane degen, he would 6 table HU for 30h straight with best players in the world in NL 100k, there were 1 mln pots he shipped with bluffs
dont think we will ever witness anything like this ever again

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/november-high-stakes-thread-622007/index36.html

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 09:42:21 2021 No.29130892 0xMonero has a new casino partnership, that makes five casinos 0xMR is partnered with.

Anonymous Fri Feb 19 09:43:30 2021 No.29130985

>>29130562
yeah stts suck, youre grinding so hard for a 1-5% roi +rb. I played a ton of stts then got super over them but I loved mttsngs. I was crushing 90mans on ftp, even got gold and diamond stars on sharkscope. If theres one thing I really miss its those 90man turbos. And yeah many moved into the coaching game for steady profits even back pre-bf. Most of the high stakes mtt guys werent actually making much money at the tables. They were almost all backed and had huge swings. I never got that far into cash games it was pretty damn hard even back then.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 09:45:16 2021 No.29131117 >>29127910 as I said you need to put in the hours to make it, it's not a get rich quick scheme, i made double that last year but I had losing years before that

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 09:56:56 2021 No.29132024 >>29127910 I won't share graphs, but ask me a NLHE MTT related question and I'll answer it so that you can see I'm not a liar

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 09:59:47 2021 No.29132257 >>29132024 How old are you? Whats your open shove range at a 9 handed table with antes and 14bb stack? What is M? Answer quick or I know you are frauding.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:02:59 2021 No.29132471 >>29132257 28 depends on the position and the ante size M is basically how many orbits (rounds) you can survive folding every hand

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:04:13 2021 No.29132576 >>29132471 for the open shove i also forgot to mention the bubble factor /ICM pressure as blockers get nvalue in high icm pressure spots

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:09:40 2021 No.29132979 >>29132471 sorry forgot to mention. You are utg+1 and not near the money. Standard ante sizes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:09:54 2021 No.29132997 2nd for blockchain.poker

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:10:37 2021 No.29133053 >>29108499 how is crypto not a zero sum game? I was under the impression that for every dollar you make another person lost a dollar in crypto.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:12:40 2021 No.29133234 File: 194 KB, 1110x649, 1613601092311.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Name the best books to actually become an ok player?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:15:24 2021 No.29133433 >>29132979 standard ante sizes I assume you mean 12.5% and that i have no other option than shove or fold something like all pocket pairs, A5s,ATo+, KQo, and all suited broadways but i may be a little off

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:16:37 2021 No.29133512 >>29133234 none, but i had to pick one i would pick one that is focused on the maths

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:18:10 2021 No.29133623 >>29133433 Not bad. I prob fold out the weaker suited broadways.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:19:15 2021 No.29133690 >>29133433 and A8s+

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:21:02 2021 No.29133797 >>29097251 Stay away from Pokerstars. I used to work for them. They have the worst customer service in the industry. It's like they're trying to lose players.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 19 10:21:31 2021 No.29133839 >>29133797 >this

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