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>"Dude, as long as no one knows your passphrase, your funds are safe!"
>reinstall Windows
>plug in Ledger
>automatically connects and shows all my accounts, no passphrase needed
What the fuck?

>> No.29100002

>>29099964
delet this right now

>> No.29100038

the passphrase backs up the device itself, in case it breaks. reinstalling windows does nothing

>> No.29100767

>>29099964
showing the accounts doesn't matter. the funds don't leave the device unless you sign the transactions with the ledger.

>> No.29100926

>>29099964
why would you use this? it just screams, hey the coins are on here.

>> No.29101231

>>29099964
The secret key is what allows someone to access your coins and it isn't displayed, also it doesn't automatically connect you have to enter your pin on the device to display your accounts

>> No.29101698
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29101698

>>29099964
>He fell for the hardware wallet meme

>> No.29102049

>>29100926
>the coins are on here
babby's first day in crypto?

>> No.29102434

>>29100767
>>29101231
so a pin is the only thing literally keeping people out? Then why the fuck have the 24 pass phrase? I thought this was how you actually access it.

So in theory, if someone wrenched me and took my ledger, they'd see all the money, but be unable to access it without the pin?

>> No.29102480
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>>29100926
>the coins are on here

>> No.29102738

>>29102434
Yes, if someone wrenched you and took your ledger and forced the pin number out of you, they could steal your shit. Your pin only allows hardware access however, and nobody online can ever steal your coins unless they get your passphrase.

>> No.29102852

>car needs new tires
>drive away and blow up my house
>car still needs new tires
that's how stupid you sound

>> No.29102868

>>29102434
if you type the pin wrong 3 times it wipes the ledger you pajeet

>> No.29102968

Can you keep ledger offline at all times and never connect it to anything remotely computer related the bluetooth scares me.

How do we not know that the encryption isnt backdoored by them and they wont withdraw all our money one day

>> No.29102982

>>29102434
The 24 word thing is seed phrase, and all of your private keys for all of your crypto in your wallet can be derived from it, even without physical access to the device.

>> No.29103061

>>29102968
if you just want a cold wallet, you don't need a ledger

the whole point is that you CAN connect it to a computer to sign transactions while effectively using your wallet but keeping the private key cold

>> No.29103136

Post your passphrases bros
We're all anonymous here

>> No.29103156

>>29102738
>steal ledger
>know pin
>still have access to funds even without pass phrase

>> No.29103308

>>29103156
Yes, but no matter how you store your coins if someone has physical access to your devices they can steal them. Hardware wallets are meant to prevent online based attacks, which software wallets do not do effectively.

>> No.29103441

>>29103136
I'll give you the first 3

Fuck
Off
Jew

>> No.29103444

>>29103156
why would a thief know your pin? they only get 3 guess before the ledger is erased

don't make it retarded like 12345678

>> No.29103511

>>29099964

just use a USB key and encrypt your keys with a passphrase yourself. you can store in a text file. on the other hand, you won't have this faggy crypto "hardwallet" and maybe that's the real point for you

>> No.29103588

>>29103444
>why would a thief know your pin? they only get 3 guess before the ledger is erased

what a retarded feature, just encrypt it yourself with bcrypt so it can't be brute forced and you don't lose your life savings if you make 3 password mistakes in a row

>> No.29103705

>>29103588
ughhh

dude you still have access to the funds with your seed phrase. the thief just stole your ledger in this scenario

>> No.29103727

>>29103511
because once you decrypt that USB drive, your keys are exposed to the computer. A hardware wallet signs the transaction on the device itself, then transfers the signed transaction to your computer.

>still believing a hardware wallet is a glorified USB in current year.

>> No.29103729
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29103729

>house was flooded years ago and lost everything
>now with fear of house catching on fire or some shit and losing everything
>afraid of getting hacked

living with this anxiety is hell. I guess the best I could do is just split my gains into a physicial and digital wallet

>> No.29103825

>>29101698
>not tattooing your seed phrase onto your dick with pictures that represent the words
ngmi

>> No.29103877

>>29103729
Memorize your seed phrase. You can write a little story out of it, that will help you remember it. If I had over 100k on my Ledger I definitely would commit it to memory.

>> No.29103971

>>29103825
I was going to tattoo it under my foreskin. Not like anyone would see it
But now it would just give the jews another reason to try and steal my foreskin

>> No.29103999

>>29103136
here you go, but why do you need to know it?

rush listen fang carry arrive person bustling achiever summer miss melted cheerful

>> No.29104016

>>29099964
>literally doesnt understand his own device

>> No.29104076

Imagine not keeping ur priv key encrypted on a usb.
U overpaying for a usb.
Hww is a jew scam. Just an a usb key, put a keepassx file on there encrypt it nicely. Much better then ur hardwarecwallet and cost 5$

>> No.29104095

>>29099964
my ledger won't even connect to Windows 10. piece of fucking shit.

>> No.29104100
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Why am I investing, studying graphs, delegating, and looking for moons? I should just be trying to steal seed phrases and cut out all the real work.

>> No.29104135

>>29103999
Delete

>> No.29104162

>>29102049
>>29102480
I'm sure Jamal will care a lot about semantics when he's torturing your ass to get your passphrase.

>> No.29104172

>>29104076
i can sign all my metamask transactions with a ledger. for me that makes it worth it right there. I can connect my metamask to sites all day long, but nothing is going to happen unless I sign the transactions

>> No.29104230

>>29103136
Leaf floor bovine autumn catch claw power door snake tree

>> No.29104290

what's better, ledger or razor?

>> No.29104373

>>29103727

What do you use to type in your passphrase, telepathy? If your computer is compromised, so are your keyboard inputs. lmao @ clueless computer n00bs

> t. 23 years of software & electrical engineering

>> No.29104437

>>29102434
>Then why the fuck have the 24 pass phrase? I thought this was how you actually access it.

Please be an OG fudding and not a walking, talking sell signal.

>> No.29104556

>>29104373
you don't type in your seed during the hardware wallet setup. Its literally the entire point. Its stored in a notepad offline at your grandma's house and then you use your hardware wallet to sign transactions. You could literally steal my computer and my ledger and I would be fine

>> No.29104708

>>29099964
>reinstall Windows
ngmi
use linux bro

>> No.29104756

newfag here. what are these hardware wallets for? I just trade on Binance. do I need one?

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29104845

>>29099964
>2021
>normies still not able to search information by themselves on the internet

>> No.29104939

>>29102434
>so a pin is the only thing literally keeping people out? Then why the fuck have the 24 pass phrase? I thought this was how you actually access it.
The pin is to keep out the person who has stolen your ledger from spending your coins.

The pass phrase is to stop any cunt anywhere in the world at any moment from cloning your wallet. Because its the actual seed that access to your entire wallet is generated from.

If you lose your ledger you can buy a new one and access your funds with the words passphrase, regenerating the private key to your funds.

>> No.29104984

>>29104100
>invest in $5 hammer
>???
>profit

>> No.29105280

>>29100926
>>29101698
>>29102049
guys im new to this, what's the best way to store large amounts of crypto if not a hardware wallet? i only have $100aud in crypto at the moment but i want to buy more but im hesitant about security. any advice would be massively appreciated

>> No.29105607

>>29105280
trezor

>> No.29105745

>>29105607
but what about the OP?
also, what's your opinion on holding large amounts of crypto on IOS app wallets?

>> No.29105959

>>29105280
no one is gonna steal 100 aud of crypto lmao, 10000

>> No.29105983

>>29105745
the OP is a retard, kek
read the thread

>> No.29106032
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>>29099964
I use Trezor T. Very pleased with it.

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>>29106032
Can these store rbc and rsr?

>> No.29106515

>>29106196
yea