UK LABOUR MARKET NEXT FEW YEARS

[Anonymous No.30219257]

Evening Gents,

I am graduating uni this year (PPE degree from a Russell Group) and, taking a look at the job market I must say I am extremely apprehensive. Among my mates all I seem to hear is "economy is going to open up soon dont worry" but I really think graduates like myself are going to be in for a real shock when Rishi's money tap turns off.

I always had my sights set on commercial law in London pre-pandemic but now I am considering becoming a Royal Marines officer for the next 4 years before maybe going back to the city if things clear up a little economically. Is this retarded? Am I overreacting? Im not sure, any views on the labour market/coming economic crash, career advice youd give a graduate would be greatly appreciated. Cheers lads

[Anonymous No.30219280]

knee pads

[Anonymous No.30219350]

>>30219257
The hard-working Pakistani fears not an economic crash, for his corner shop shall always provide.

[Anonymous No.30219411]

Consider journalism. Many industry publications are willing to hire Russel Group lads and teach them on the job (its a waste of time "learning" journalism at a college.)

[Anonymous No.30219469]

>>30219257
>Royal Marine.
Enjoy hiding under a land rover for four years in Umm Qasir.

[Anonymous No.30219508]

I graduated during the 08 recession and that was pretty tough so can relate. But if you have a good degree from a good uni you’ll find something. Don’t join the fucking army ffs

[Anonymous No.30219594]

>>30219257
>Bootneck Crofficer
Don't do it. I say this as a Bong veteran of Zog wars in far away sandy places, the military is not an institution I would recommend to anyone capable of functioning in society. It suits psychopaths and survivors of childhood abuse, and completely does not prepare you for life in any way shape or form

[Anonymous No.30219618]

There are still law jobs going in London and always will be, even if it’s competitive. Might be a cliche but if you genuinely try hard enough you’ll make your own luck

[Anonymous No.30219640]

>>30219257
All these low IQ normies graduating with Business degrees and there ain't enough jobs to go round. Hey i've heard being an estate agent isnt so bad this time of year bud

[Anonymous No.30219689]

>>30219257
If your serious about a career get into it now and ride out the rough years. It's the people who think, "oh it'll be shit anyway, I'll go do X for a few years" that get forgotten about.

For example, check any bar/restaurant/cafe for highly qualified 2008 casualties who thought they'd just wait it out.

[Anonymous No.30219745]

>>30219257
Beg for internships. Look, even if it 'recovers' it won't actually recover. Did things recover after 2008? Sure, the stock market did but the job market was never the same and has only gotten worse. I mean, imagine saying in 2008 that you were going to wait until 2012 for the job market to improve...

[Anonymous No.30219820]

Get a job as a plasterer. Do a 2 week course. Charge people £200 a day, work 8 till 3pm and half day on Friday.

[Anonymous No.30219823]

Got a decent , and unrelated, job with a History degree (Masters from a Russell Group) so I'm sure you'll be fine lad

[Anonymous No.30219922]

>>30219257
>Working in a law firm
FFS lad, is that all you aspire to? Wage slaving for a slightly better quality gruel than the other peasants get? It's not your fault, edukashun has indoctrinated you to look down on enterprise and instead idealise "professions" which is just a better kind of wage serfdom. Use your head, you can beat the system but you have to recognise it first
>You must control your own income
Do not depend on your boss paying you a salary. Take the power into your own hands
>You must break the trade of time for money
Passive income is the name of the game. Yes there will be time costs, but you're not simply trading time for money

[Anonymous No.30219931]

>>30219823
> a decent , and unrelated, job
Do you wipe Prince Philip's bum?

[Anonymous No.30219962]

>>30219257
The (((British Ruling Class))) will start WW3 with Russia/China in the next 5 years. They'd rather retreat to their bunkers amid a nuclear war than accept defeat, be ousted and revealed for the (((non native financial parasites))) they are.

[Anonymous No.30219975]

>>30219350
The Pakistani shopkeeper fears the African looter

[Anonymous No.30220321]

>>30219922
So much easier to do this if you can go in with some capital. A law job provides the capital

[Anonymous No.30220350]

>>30219922
Someone check these please, ok so here's some ideas for you
>Buy any old shit in bulk from Alibaba and then sell it online / at a market stall
>Buy a property, rent it out. Use the rental income to rent the flat you live in, and make sure you're getting in more than you spend out
>Buy vending machines and find places you can put them- either you'll have to pay the land owner, or you can split the profits

[Anonymous No.30220583]

>>30219820
Based and tradepilled

[Anonymous No.30220773]

>>30220321
I have three siblings in the law business, maybe they're doing it wrong but they are wage slaves. On the treadmill, won't leave until they retire. Such a waste

[Anonymous No.30220777]

>>30219411
Doing economics at a RG uni and have always been interested in becoming journalism but I thought it was a dying sector, what makes you think it's worth pursuing?

[Anonymous No.30221060]

>>30219257
You got a CSCS mate? Am always looking for labourers

[Anonymous No.30221112]

>>30219280
I feel like im the one telling my mates we're going to need knee pads and theyre telling me its all going to be alright
>>30219350
i agree except for the part where you said "hard working"
>>30219411
interesting. journos have quite the stigma attached tho (for good reason). what are you referencing specifically - national newspaper types or more local stuff?
>>30219508
>>30219618
What did you end up doing?
>>30219594
Interesting as I have had ex-army lads on here (potential LARPers ik) recommend it to me. I see it more as a stepping stone to do for 4 years as opposed to an actual career.
>>30219640
This is exactly what im getting at, there is massive elite overproduction and im stuck right in the middle of it.
>>30219689
>>30219745
I think you both underestimate just how hyper-competitive most of these careers are. Just week long internships let alone actual jobs have thousands upon thousands of applicants.
>>30219823
What do/did you do?
>>30219922
Obviously not but money is undeniably important and law pays bloody well and suits my talents.
>just get passive income bro
yeah ok much easier said than done isnt it. would make sense to actually get some money to play with first, im a poorfag student with debt to pay.
>>30220321
this

[Anonymous No.30221195]

>>30221060
No, I havnt even thought about it. What are the hours/pay like? Would you recommend it?

[Anonymous No.30221592]

>>30221112
I graduated with a good humanities degree from an above average uni. Basically a useless degree the
I’m now a product manager for a pretty large software company. Couldn’t be less relevant to my degree
My girlfriend is a lawyer and had to scrap for a training contract but she got one and is about to become partner.
We both tried hard and played the game. If I could go back I’d be a bit more serious with my money much earlier, as if I was I could be shaping up for an early retirement. That said your 20s is for living so don’t miss out

[Anonymous No.30221629]

>>30221112
>I think you both underestimate just how hyper-competitive most of these careers are. Just week long internships let alone actual jobs have thousands upon thousands of applicants.
Why you think I said beg?

[Anonymous No.30222150]

>>30221195
Hope this isn't a serious post but just incase
No, I wouldn't recommend it its hard work for fuck all, the only somewhat worthwhile manual construction role imo is a tele handler driver

[Anonymous No.30222226]

>>30221592
Cheers. How did you come to find out/ apply to your software company? Sounds class I just dont know how to find places to work which are unrelated to my degree. Can you expand a little on being "more serious with your money much earlier" ?
>>30222150
Oh right thought you were being serious lol. At least I can cross it off the list cheers

[Anonymous No.30222271]

>>30221112
Let's leave the passive income thing and focus on your Marine aspirations. I know plenty of mates who are hugely damaged who love the forces. Stockholm syndrome maybe. The army (and Navy) are institutions, and like a cult they change the way you think, talk, behave. The money is a lure because you pay hardly anything towards food, lodging, etc, but you will pay in other ways. Let me give you some examples
>Psychopathic NCOs physically beat you
>Your body will wear out early (infanteers' knee is real, I have it)
>Seeing and doing things that desensitise you to violence
>Turning you into an alcoholic
>Worst case, giving you severe PTSD
>Giving you questionable transferable skills- I have mates who left to go and protect ships against piracy, took the course, then never got work for it
>I can go on but let's see if you're a lost cause or no. I was, noone could have talked me out of joining

[Anonymous No.30222349]

Journalists earn fuck all, not sure why this is being mooted. If you're going to be a wage slave (which is fine, it's almost impossible not to be) then get a job in Law or Finance. Not sure why people are saying a plasterer for 200 day is a great gig if you got the capacity to earn more sitting at a desk.

[Anonymous No.30222459]

FUCK OFF TO /INT/ YOU MOUTHBREATHING NO TEETH REFUGEEKEKS, NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR ABOUT FAGGOT ISLAND

[Anonymous No.30222546]

>>30222349
I now realise saying "get a job in Law or Finance" is flippant as fuck. I think it's probably much more competitive to get in with an unrelated degree than when I did 15 years ago.

[Anonymous No.30222577]

>>30219257
>Am I overreacting?

No. This insanity has years left to go. Get a job with a guaranteed pay check and expect the next few years to be totally awful.

>Pic related: World Bank planning the next 5 years of Covid madness

[Anonymous No.30222671]

Joining the forces for 4 years as an extended gap year makes no sense. You're better off getting 4 years of experience in the real world, starting a career and making decent money. The forces is for people who want to do it long term for the lifestyle, even they often realise its not worth it over the long haul and bail to get a proper life (I did).
Join the RM reserve if you just fancy a bit of crack wearing green and running about in the woods.
.t ex infanteer

[Anonymous No.30222839]

>>30222671
Lots of financial institutions have schemes specifically for ex-forces people but from what I've seen the just pick posh people who were presumably officers. So there is a potential route out but you'd be a nutter to bank on it.

[Anonymous No.30223066]

>Be a STAB
Or he could just buy the medals on eBay and pretend he was the man on the balcony at bin Laden's compound

[Anonymous No.30223162]

>wanting to defend Israel
Might as well kys now

[Anonymous No.30223206]

>>30222671
The forces are for braindead faggots whose lives are expendable

[Anonymous No.30223294]

>>30219257
It's all about your risk tolerance: do you want to aim for a high floor, or a high ceiling to your income?
Personally I think a military career might be a good bet right now....you'll have a guaranteed paycheck in an era where a lot of people might conceivably end up starving. If you get out of the military in about 4 years or so, it's possible that you'll be able to use lots of government gibs to go for more education then to pursue your dreams. And if you're a decent person, you might be able to get in and be a whistleblower if you see any notable human rights abuses or evil government actions. The biggest downside is the opportunity cost of missing out on 4 years of lawyering as well the risk of death in case of war. Of course, if you're able to invest in crypto a bit now and just be patient, you might come out of the military in 4 years a rich man.
Of course, being a lawyer is potentially a far more lucrative career: but with the economy the way it is....I'd wonder about being able to even get a job. It's going to be tough out there for a while.

[Anonymous No.30223426]

>>30223294
typical /biz/ still trying to shill shitcoins will giving job advice

[Anonymous No.30223605]

>>30222226
Being serious with money - investing it. Making it work for me. Not spending 90% of it on booze and drugs for 10 years.
I found a job spec and applied. Hard to be more specific than that desu sorry pal

[Anonymous No.30223763]

>>30220777
and thank God it's a dying profession, writhing maggots the lot of them

[Anonymous No.30223889]

>>30219257
Honestly lad, get a job ASAP. Things will ONLY get worse from now on. When all the normies who have been paid to do nothing realize there is no job to come back to, and half the businesses go bottom-up due to not having had work for over a year, there will be no job market to go to.

[Anonymous No.30223916]

>>30219257
military or local government is a good choice. not retarded

[Anonymous No.30224349]

>>30222271
I see. Its ironic that these types of very sincere warnings actually make people more keen to join, just human nature. I think what I would argue is that, if we are talking minimum service timescale (4 years) you would only be on operations for a max of 2 years (and right now there arnt really any wars going on as Afghan has been wound down). I feel like I can take the good parts that I need (confidence, discipline, communication) and run. But thats probably naive.
>>30222349
>>30222546
Yeah its hyper, hyper competitive. You go to free online law lectures and there are THOUSANDS of people in the chat shilling their linkedin.
>>30222577
Yeah my job has to be recession-proof, we arnt going to bounce back anytime soon.
>>30222671
As >>30222839 says, you do often see ex-forces guys in cushy city jobs, but these are basically always officers because they come across really well, are naturally smart and have the qualities that firms want - disciplined, take orders well, good communication etc. The regular grunt lads wont have a chance at that.
>>30223294
This is a pretty good summary of where my head is at quite frankly. There are pros and cons to both and I am just weighing them up, and threads like these are really useful for that. What I don't want to happen is to waste a year applying to a law job that is never going to materialise... or am I wasting 4 years in the marines when I could get straight into the city.
>>30223605
no worries, cheers mate
>>30223889
What would you say to people who say smth like "stop the doom mongering, things will open back up with the vaccine, in 2008 things never got that bad blah blah?"
>>30223916
due to what exactly?

[Anonymous No.30224423]

>>30223916
> local government
This. It's easy work arresting pensioners for their Tweets.

[Anonymous No.30224534]

>>30224423
kek

[Anonymous No.30224606]

>>30224349
All I’d say is that it’s going to be hard but don’t do that thing of fucking about for a few years waiting for the economy to get better or whatever. You’ll fall behind and might never catch up. Employers might look at you less favourably.
I personally wouldn’t join the forces but desu what do I know. That’s better than just fucking about and you will have some doors open when you come out

[Anonymous No.30224613]

>>30223916
+1 for gov, civil service has jobs out the ass doing the most mundane shit, browse civilservicejobs

[Anonymous No.30224833]

>>30219820
>forgets to mention that all actual recognized courses are 1 year long
>forgets to mention that doing a 2 week course costs £1400 and does not give you a proper qualification.

[Anonymous No.30224859]

>>30224613
This isn’t a bad shout. Solid job. Loads of jobs available due to COVID.

[Anonymous No.30224971]

>>30224349
I feel for you anon, not a good time to be looking for work, especially as there may be lots of people with work experience looking in the next few months. half of this shit is getting your foot in the door so don't immediately discount roles you might not otherwise consider if you're interested in the industry. I mean you're not going to jump from a back office role to a desk in an IB but there's absolutely scope to move about in these places.

[Anonymous No.30225021]

>>30224833
>>30219820
Also forgets to mention that 2 week courses are only introductory courses and each course after that costs another £1300 up to level 6, which totals around £8000 for you to learn how to be a plasterer

[Anonymous No.30225241]

>>30224859
piss easy to work up the ranks and great job security, I'm working my way through the interview process for the fast stream atm

[Anonymous No.30225592]

dont listen to the fud, everything in the city is still happening and will still be happening, all remote. covid has barely touched most of the tech sector, and id imagine its the same in law / finance. just work in the city if thats what you want to do. i graduated this year and got straight in at a startup

[Anonymous No.30225795]

>>30225241
Got through to the assessment centre when i was 18 for the fast stream and fucked it up because of my auts. Now im on the fast track which is the tard version. Would of been on £60k+ by now if it worked out.

[Anonymous No.30225810]

>>30225241
>My cage is better than yours
The fucking state of this board

[Anonymous No.30226522]

>>30225810
crabs in a bucket

[Anonymous No.30227005]

>>30221112
Why don't you put down 1-2 good sounding fake internships on your CV to ease your way in? Give your mates number as reference and tell him to sound professional if a call is coming from an unsaved number. Rehearse scenarios and tell him exactly what to tell abozt you. Hopefully he doesnt sound too young

[Anonymous No.30227145]

>>30226522
You got that right. I'm trying to give OP a ladder

[Anonymous No.30227377]

>>30224349
local gov is safe, good pension, wide range of locations, and good for the CV. Not one to stay at forever but a safe place for now. The jobs ain't going away

[Anonymous No.30227436]

>>30219257
>degree
why?

[Anonymous No.30227552]

>>30219257
i am a burger, not a bongoloid. but i did serve. it can be very good for you in terms of saving money. but just don't be stupid and join the infantry like i did. pick the easiest desk job. preferably something in signals or some shit like that. you can become a network engineer when you get out. do not become a fucking infantryman. remember that.

[Anonymous No.30227713]

>>30224349
>if we are talking minimum service timescale (4 years) you would only be on operations for a max of 2 years
Try 6 months if you're lucky.

[Anonymous No.30228130]

>>30226522
>>30225810
What do you two geniuses do then?

[Anonymous No.30228138]

>>30227552
thanks burger fren. why not the infantry? it was going to be one of my back up regiment choices
>>30224606
yeah i get what your saying. im relying on being a qualified marines officer + my degree carrying me through to a higher paying job eventually. need to check this more thoroughly.
>>30224971
thanks bro. bottom line is getting my head down really. i think a good compromise could be doing the Royal Marines Reserve (year long course only on weekends) whilst trying to find jobs/working entry level during the week. good cv booster and if i cant get in anywhere in london gives me a good leg up into the actual officer course. paid as well.
>>30225592
yeah hard to know what to believe. intake got axed across the board in 2008 but with the era of WFH they might be able to cut office costs and maintain/boost employee numbers. hard to know.
>>30227005
if you get caught you become blacklisted from the entire industry. might also be illegal.
>>30227713
even better

[Anonymous No.30228250]

>>30228138
Try Int Corps, get DV clearance. Big money jobs with that.

[Anonymous No.30228465]

>>30228250
was considering intelligence also to be fair. do you have any experience/insight into that?

[Anonymous No.30228575]

>>30219257
>PPE at Russell Group
Which one? Big difference between Oxford/LSE/UCL and the others
>commercial law in London
You could realistically do this if you go to one of the unis I mentioned above. But you should have done internships already

[Anonymous No.30228791]

>>30224349
You've got some balanced advice from several anons, but I'll throw in my 2c.
t. oldfag, Russell Group uni STEM grad in 2009
I went RAF officer route after graduating for some of the reasons you're considering OP. It was (mostly) good craic and I don't regret it. But left after Cameron era defence spending review. I've mates across the mil who had shit times, suffer with mental health, fucked family relationships, etc. so it's something to think carefully about. I'm now in the city earning good wedge, and the last 12 months has mostly been a doss. There loads of exMil entry schemes now. As another anon said, it's mostly business as usual in the city except everyone works from home (which I've been doing 2 or 3 days/week for years). So maybe try your hand at a few grad schemes this summer and see how it goes, you can always visit the AFCO up in 9 months if it all goes to shit. In the mean time keep investing spare cash. Wish I'd read about bitcoin in 2009 rather than getting in in summer 2017 kek.

[Anonymous No.30229170]

>>30228575
Honestly mate after reading the thread I don't think you will make it into law this year. It seems like you have no experience and it's too late in the recruitment season

[Anonymous No.30229383]

>>30228138
>thanks burger fren. why not the infantry? it was going to be one of my back up regiment choices

just mentally and physically draining, with the chance of dying for no reason. the only thing i gained was an amazing brotherhood, which is probably the last of its kind in the world. even that is fast fading with the introduction of fem*les into the combat arms. just pick a comfy deskjob fren. make that money, save all of it, get transferable skills. they will be paying you to learn very valuable and specialized skills. don't forego that opportunity.

[Anonymous No.30229434]

>>30228791
Thanks for your time, your situation sounds pretty similar to mine. Was it difficult to actually become an officer? Im basically a gymrat but my cardio is pretty poor. Im assuming you did the 4 years of minimum service?
What was it like leaving and interviewing in the city? Ive heard recruiters are generally really impressed by ex-forces blokes - do you reckon your time as an officer actually helped you get a job as opposed to just going straight into the city?

[Anonymous No.30229874]

The only people who reccomend the military are those who haven't served. But for the love of god if you're determined to join anyway at least go for the RAF, you'll have the best pay and conditions and the easiest time getting a job afterwards.

[Anonymous No.30230095]

>>30228465
Just a couple of courses, I never really got the opportunity to put any of it into practice. There are some very interesting roles in the Int Corps.

[Anonymous No.30230594]

>>30219350
keek

[Anonymous No.30230768]

>>30221112
Sorry I'm late with this, I'm >>30219823

I started working in Project Management when I left Uni, they were mainly interested in seeing that I had a degree and some transferable skills from that. Started as project coordinator and year later was working as Release Manager (still related to Programme and Project management) and my pay had went up by about a third.

Keep the faith anon. Try civil service even if you think job is unrelated too, just need to show your competent tbqh

[Anonymous No.30231073]

>>30229434
AMA, I'll answer those in order anon
You seem high enough IQ and fit enough for those bits of selection not to be a problem (do keep up the cardio or you'll have a bad time if you get to Dartmoor/Exmoor later). You'll need to do a bunch of group leadership exercises too and interviews, plus medical ofc. Try to find a marine officer to talk to for specific tips.
Different minimum service periods depending on branch/trade, as aircrew my only choice was a long service (knowing i could duck out much earlier if i wanted anyway - the budget cuts back then were a free out anyway)
The city stuff was fine, being exMil (even having done nothing of note while in) was definitely an advantage. I'd say just don't expect to leave after 4 years and walk straight into 6 figures at Stratton Oakmont, be prepared to get cucked for 18 months. But no way will you need to start on a entry level job/pay either.

[Anonymous No.30231682]

>>30229874
Why the RAF over the Paras/Marines? I have mates in the Paras who give them shit so i havnt considered it yet.
>>30230768
No need to apologise. Seems to me once you are in the door for a year+ you're more or less fine, any specific advice for applying? Would you recommend Project Management? Got a reputation for being a bit "redundant" but the people I know in that racket seem to always do pretty well.
>>30231073
Thanks alot mate. By cucked for 18mo i assume you mean making the transfer over and job hunting? Definitely agree it shuold be a massive advantage over someone just graduating. Any specific reason you chose the RAF over Army/Navy?

[Anonymous No.30232087]

>>30231682
Because paras/marines are meatshields. If you want to be stuck in a ditch waiting for a radio call to give you permission to fire back at ragheads, only to walk 10 metres and lose your limbs to an IED then suit yourself. War is fucking grim and putting yourself in a role in the middle of it wont do anything good for you but damage you physically and mentally. If you want a well paying job in tech or management role in the forces then the RAF is the safest route to go by far. You're still not 100% immune to the seeing fucked up shit but you're far less likely to have it happen directly to you at least.

[Anonymous No.30232170]

Barrister here.
Its tough and hyper competitive. I was a 2008 graduate, and it was really tough then, but really its just got more difficult every year. The candidate we get for pupillage interviews every year are fucking elite individuals; many come in from a first career elsewhere in business, science etc. What I would say is if you want to do law, there isn't really any harm in doing a stint with the Royal Marines first. Get some different experiences, see the world, make connections, don't get killed and you'll be ok as long as you don't become the mindless grug bootneck like the lads you'll be overseeing.

[Anonymous No.30232431]

>>30219257
Royal Marines officer is a massive crapshoot, because they only run one intake a year - so you're effectively fucked if you get injured. Understand this - it doesn't matter how fit or tough or whatever you are, if you break your leg, etc, you will be out. And it happens to plenty of people. Since this is just a four year plan for you, rather than your life's dream, a family tradition, or whatever, why risk it?
I was an Army officer (infantry, then intelligence role) and honestly I'd struggle to recommend that to you either. Sandhurst isn't hard, just boring and you get treated like a child. You don't learn anything useful (it does NOT train leadership) and noone will respect you for it afterwards. The Army is barely doing anything atm, you will almost certainly not deploy. On the other hand, the RAF in a support role (logistics, etc) will be fun, and easy as fuck. You'll barely work and do loads of adventurous training and sport. The RN would be a good experience too, with plenty of scope for travel - although be aware that Warfare Officers get treated like shit, do not do it unless you are set on a full career.
Tl;dr: join Navy or RAF as an officer in a non-frontline role (I.e. not pilot or warfare officer), fuck around and have fun for four years. Noone will give a shit when you're out what you actually did.
ALTHOUGH, having said all that, if you have the chops for City Law, you should just get on and fucking do that. Retire by 35.

>>30219469
Unfathomably based

[Anonymous No.30232805]

>>30231682
There's always a load of shit slinging between the different branches. If you appreciate the special brand of humour on chan you should fit right in to any of them. Personally I didn't fancy living under a tarp and getting shot at quite as much going flying and almost never having to shout at anyone, so it was RAF. Also I'm not unfit, but would've had to work hard to get to para/marine officer fit. As another anon said army IntO could be a good compromise to look into.
>>30228250
Good point, if you get DV it can open doors for some jobs. It runs out after a few years/needs renewing, but work would pay and iirc you keep SC for 10 years anyway - that alone got me on a good projects several years back.

[Anonymous No.30233023]

>>30219594
I agree completely with this.
>>30222271
And this
>>30222671
And this

I never realised there were so many of us disillusioned ex-British Army on /biz/. Interesting.

[Anonymous No.30233456]

>>30232431
I'll stop spamming the thread after this, but since I actually was in an Int Corps unit - all of the interesting INT roles are done by soldiers, not officers. All of the decent officer jobs are after first posting as a Captain (i.e. after 4-5 years of service. So you won't be doing them. Don't join the Army.

[Anonymous No.30233590]

>>30231682
>By cucked for 18mo i assume you mean making the transfer over and job hunting?
No, that you suffer dull tasks while you learn the ropes/don't have any more technical experience than the grads. If you know you're only doing 4 years as a springboard into the city (lots of officers do this), you will have plenty of time to line something up. You will get a couple of months paid resettlement leave to sort your life out if/when te time comes.

[Anonymous No.30233689]

>>30219257
DING DONG BING BONG.

[Anonymous No.30233869]

>>30219257
Consider the skills you gained from your course and how they could be marketed. A PPE is a solid degree, you might want to try looking at graduate opportunities in companies in your desired field.
Personally I'm just going to move abroad when possible, the UK is fucked with brexit and the virus

[Anonymous No.30234751]

>>30231682
Yeah, I'm in civil service for the above mentioned job - there are people who work as contractors who can earn a lot more too effectively doing the same job, but for getting your foot in the door and getting experience I've found it good and the progression opportunities good in my division/department anyways.You also get the perks of the decent holidays/flexi time, sick pay etc. etc.

The applications for civil service are all very focussed around a competency framework, do some research into it online before applying as there is a certain layout that tends to work well for answering the questions etc.

With regards to Project Management I wok in a. big Programme at the moment which is basically full of projects at the same, there are many job roles in this sort of project management field, another anon mentioned they ate a Product Manager/ owner - again this pays pretty decent and is something I'm eyeing up possibly transitioning too in the future. I'm for reference, one of my pals in my team is 35 or so and works as a Change Manager at present (but has contracted as various roles related to the project/programme management field) and now makes like £150/160k or something, again his degree was an arts degree so plenty of potential I think

[Anonymous No.30235041]

>>30233023
/biz/ is full of broken toys m9, no suprise that there's a fair few of us who were on main gate when OP was on cow and gate

[Anonymous No.30235232]

>>30219257
>PPE degree from a Russell Group
I'm currently in the midst of a gap year, applied for PPE at multiple unis. I made it to interview with Oxford before getting rejected, and I have offers from Exeter, Durham and Edinburgh. Have you got any advice concerning which one I should pick? (I've already got the grades). Which university did you go to?

[Anonymous No.30235271]

>>30235041
In Baghdad when he was in his dad's bag

[Anonymous No.30235436]

>>30235232
Not him but Durham > Edinburgh > Exeter in terms of prestige and career prospects

[Anonymous No.30235606]

>>30235271
Probably overkill to make a /BVZWBG/ Britbong Veteran of Zog Wars Biz General, but been good knowing I'm not the only one of us. Take care fren, anon -/-

[Anonymous No.30236963]

Bump

[Anonymous No.30237284]

>>30219257
Become a Royal Navy Logistics Officer. you get law jobs in that role.

source in navy myself.

although RM Officer is also an incredible career.

[Anonymous No.30237361]

>>30237284
Do you know much about the Weapons Engineer role?

[Anonymous No.30237443]

>>30237361
yeah, a little bit. i'm a marine engineer.

[Anonymous No.30237732]

>>30237443
I've been thinking about applying for it, what is the kind of day to day stuff that job entails?
I like the idea of saving lots of money from having less bills and dumping it all into stocks and crypto, but at the same time I don't want to be canon fodder in the sandpit which attracted me to the RN positions.

[Anonymous No.30237764]

>>30237361
you got a question? i'm fucking off in a few minutes.

[Anonymous No.30238019]

>>30237764
Do you know if the weapons engineering role is mainly sitting infront of a control terminal or is there a lot more to it that that?

[Anonymous No.30238217]

britbong threads are always the same shit and you fags are some of the whiniest niggers on the site

[Anonymous No.30238226]

>>30237732
RN extremely unlikely to be cannon fodder. last time a RN warship was fired at was the falklands.

Tensions are rising with Russia in the north sea and China around their territory. Extremely unlikely anyway.

Weapons engineers along with the weapons look after the ships IT infrastructure and comms systems (sonar&radar).

If you go as an Officer u need any STEM degree you start on 29k get a Engineers joining bonus of 27k spread over a couple of years you can save a shed load of money.
as an Officer it's all office/admin/reports/ man management.

I've been in 6 years. It's okay. If i get a decent opportunity outside i'll leave. some people absolutely love it. some leave as soon as possible.

great for individual development if you care about that. loads of opportunities to work around the world.

anyway i cba to write anymore. maybe see you in another thread sometime.

[Anonymous No.30238460]

>>30238226
Thank you for the info, see you around hopefully

[Anonymous No.30238502]

>>30238226
thanks for writing

[Anonymous No.30238538]

>>30219257

Don't worry, there will always be scumbags looking to hire scumbags to help them sue other scumbags. There will always be a depressing, unfulfilling seat for you at the table before you decide to jump from the 40th floor.

[Anonymous No.30238544]

>>30219257
>Am I overreacting?
your gov are authoritarian homos so probably not honestly

[Anonymous No.30239222]

>>30238217
We have a lot to moan about.

[Anonymous No.30239420]

your russel group mate. youll be fine. im doing law at swansea in wales (lol) and im almost certainly not going into any kind of legal or city profession when I leave. youll be fine lad.

[Anonymous No.30239726]

>>30235436
You can say nigger in public at exeter though. Atleast you could before i graduated

[Anonymous No.30240384]

Friend graduated from a top 50 University with a first class honours in Law. He went on to do an MSc off the back of a scholarship. Since that, he's applied for Barista roles but hasn't got any as there are hundred per vacancy. Still, he's managed to get a job in the FCA... so not all bad. Comfy in fact.

[Anonymous No.30240449]

>>30240384
Barrister*