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Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized p2p privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and borderless, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT (hidden tx amounts) ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a Monero user willingly providing a view key for a specific transaction.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptos. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of txs increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier of entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward will gradually approach 0.6 XMR in May 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.


Essential viewing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4


OFFICIAL WEBSITE - https://web.getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Binance
Kraken
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
Local Monero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Kucoin
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
https://archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Gui/Cli (recommended)
MyMonero
Exodus
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo
NOTE: MYMONERO FOR ANDROID IS A SCAM. DO NOT DOWNLOAD ON GOOGLE PLAY.

>> No.30308577

What happens if they get rid of cash completely? How will we buy monero anonymously? Gift cards ? Gold and silver?

>> No.30308655

>>30308577
Ur ass is mine, I have 2 monero but no lube buddy

>> No.30308694
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>>30308388
XMR transaction volune has doubled in the last year. Monero is inevitable. See you on the other side frens.

>> No.30308715

>>30308577
Directly with goods and services. Hell, one could buy Monero now just by selling drugs. Illegal so of course I don't recommend it.

>> No.30308733

>>30308577
>Match up with person who wants to by product with monero
>You buy product with fiat instead
>You exchange product for monero
>profit???

>> No.30308748

My limited understanding of atomic swaps is this:

A gives B key number 1, which is then out of A's hands until B takes it or a time limit passes, at which point it reverts to A.
B, seeing that the money is there no-backsies, passes A key number 2. B's money is also out there, no-backsies.
When both use their keys, the swap is completed, no trust required.

I feel like I'm not quite understanding the last stage of the process. Is unlocking key 1 somehow tied to sending key 2, no-backsies? What would that look like? Excuse the childish vocabulary, that's pretty much my level of knowing what the fuck is going on.

>>30308577
Grow weed and sell it. Or else, mine monero. It seems to be set up in such a way that small-scale mining remains viable.

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30308815

>>30308577
How do private jets sound?

https://www.tapjets.com/article/private-jet-pay-with-monero

>> No.30308828

>>30308577
Buy BTC with the digital fiat they put in its place, I basically already do that with my bank account.

Alternatively, in a very bleak scenario, I would sell back my PM’s for BTC and then atomic swap it for XMR.

>> No.30308863

>>30307939
The pic made it look like it was decided by the system itself.

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>>30308748
>My limited understanding of atomic swaps is this:
>
>A gives B key number 1, which is then out of A's hands until B takes it or a time limit passes, at which point it reverts to A.
>B, seeing that the money is there no-backsies, passes A key number 2. B's money is also out there, no-backsies.
>When both use their keys, the swap is completed, no trust required.
>
>I feel like I'm not quite understanding the last stage of the process. Is unlocking key 1 somehow tied to sending key 2, no-backsies? What would that look like? Excuse the childish vocabulary, that's pretty much my level of knowing what the fuck is going on.

https://localmonero.co/knowledge/monero-atomic-swaps

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>>30308577
I'll pay you 0.002 XMR for a blowjob

>> No.30309288

>>30308577
Lol the same way you “buy” money. Selling a good or service or another asset.

>> No.30309345

>>30309002
>>30308655
Just feel like mentioning I just hit make it stack levels... will continue DCA until I no longer need to because my wage is paid in XMR

>> No.30309412
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>>30309345
But did you reach Ukrainian Zoomer Politician stack levels?

>> No.30309467

Why does the dude whose making OP images call Monero an app?

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>>30309345
So you want that 0.002 XMR for a blowjob or what?

>> No.30309686

>>30309467
>Why does the dude whose making OP images call Monero an app?

Its an Apple ad spoof/meme.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/please-stop-with-the-app-for-that/

>> No.30309802

>>30309412
what is opsec???

>> No.30309959

my xmrig keeps crashing, any tips

>> No.30310036

I wanted to use this coin but fuck the GUI for getting blocked by my antivirus even after I whitelist everything Monero-related. Is Monerujo on android trustworthy? It only has a 3.2 star rating and 50k downloads.

>> No.30310101

>>30309802
>what is opsec???

As a politician he is legally required to declare all assets.

>> No.30310171

>>30308388
Is it really that big of a deal to buy xmr from a KYC exchange?

>> No.30310211

>>30310171
It's no different than taking out cash from your bank

>> No.30310351

>>30309959
we need more info, bro
any error messages? is everything stock?

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30310550

Even with the hype of atomic swaps demo the price is crabbing downward, that's interesting.

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>>30310211
Based. Also, is Cake Wallet a legit way to convert some btc to xmr anonymously and without triggering a capital gains tax event? I currently have 0.45 btc that I intend to HODL, but would like to put some gainz to get some sweet darknetbux.

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30310959

CRABBA
*BANG BANG*
CRABBA
*BANG BANG*
CRABBA
*BANG BANG*

>> No.30311232

>>30310171
You can credibly hide gigantic capital gains if you claim to have spent it on buying weed. Old-time Silk Road buyers would be in tax jail right now if this weren't the case.

>> No.30311457

>>30311232
Buying something crypto is a taxable event. You would technically need to report for every purchase you make and then pay taxes on any gains you made with the price increase from when you acquired to crypto to when you used it buy but something and realize your gains. Sounds fucked up but isn’t that correct?

>> No.30311563

>>30311457
I mean, yes, if you wanted to be honest to a perverted and evil dystopian monster-state.

Otherwise, no, you smoked that shit.

>> No.30311666

Can't even buy this thing on a DEX lol

>> No.30311901

>>30311457
>Buying something crypto is a taxable event.
Fiat to crypto is not a taxable event.

>> No.30312033

>>30311901
and neither is crypto to crypto, only cashing out is

>> No.30312130

>>30312033
Wrong. Crypto to crypto is actually a taxable event.

>> No.30312281
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Atomic swaps happening on testnet!

>> No.30312289

>>30312130
just checked, indeed it is, my bad

>> No.30312297

>>30312130

https://news.bloombergtax.com/daily-tax-report/insight-the-5-most-common-tax-reportable-crypto-events

>> No.30312394

>>30310036
Get cakewallet on android instead

>> No.30312396

>>30312130
>>30312289
I still don't understand, if you convert your coins on a DEX, how will this be a taxable event? How will they know to track you and make you pay capital gains?

>> No.30312718

>>30312396
The taxable event is when you go from one crypto to another. So be a good goy and tell the government.

>> No.30312732

>>30310959

*BANG BANG*
DOOMPA

>> No.30312764

>>30312396
Taxable event doesn’t not mean you have to pay taxes that year. You only need to pay taxes when you convert to fiat and realize your gains. Or when you use your crypto to purchase goods and services because they also consider that to be realizing gains. (Same as converting to fiat then buying something)

>> No.30312802

>>30312396
I imagine in the future IRS will develop algos to track blockchain transactions. Really kinda every swap is taxable but I imagine you should just hold what you buy with KYC exchanges. Youre prolly ok for now unless youre making big fuvking bucks

>> No.30312810

>>30312732
We are crabbing, not dumping.
>>30310959
Based crazy tribal drummer anon

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>>30311901
>>30312033
>tfw haven't cashed out one single thing to fiat
>all in XMR or (for now) other coins

>> No.30312934

>>30312764
this is incorrect, at least in the USA. taxable event means you have to pay taxes that year, but gov is going to rely on you self reporting it

>> No.30313021

>I buy
>XMR dumps
>every penny of my purchase and then some has been wiped out already.

I just...

>> No.30313044

>>30313021
let me know the exact time you plan on buying next please

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>> No.30313250

>>30311666
Bisq

>> No.30313266

when 2k xmr??

>> No.30313316

>>30313144
estimate is around 700k for march now

>> No.30313348

>>30313044
I get paid Friday afternoons so it’s usually around 5:30-6pm EST. Happy hunting!

>> No.30313357

>>30309412
BASADO

>> No.30313406

Dayum that's some high volume. Time to obtain cheapies

>> No.30313548

>>30308694
that should scare you. the easiest way to decimate xmr's privacy is do just spam low value txs on the network and keep track of your utxos. now you can with almost certainty track any and all transactions across the network.

>> No.30313720

>>30312934
Oh really? I was always confused about this. So crypto to crypto trade means you need to pay taxes in fiat for any gains that year? I need some sort of sources on this sort of thing

>> No.30313765

>>30313406
I bought in at 262
Heavy heavy bags broa

>> No.30313800

>>30313548
The transaction growth hasn't been sudden and matches up with massive growth in other sectors like social media activity, so it's pretty damn safe to say that's not what's happening.

>> No.30313831

>>30313548
That’s not how that works retard.
You would need to own like 80% of total transactions, and this is notwithstanding that other actors that you don’t know about are also spamming transactions.

>> No.30313846

>>30313720
https://www.coindesk.com/crypto-tax-2021-guide

>> No.30313962

>>30313348
consider buying on sundays instead

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ULULULULULULULULULULULULULULUUUUUU

>> No.30314095

>>30313800
and if i was trying to covertly monitor monero, you think i would just suddenly start spamming transactions?

>>30313831
i highly doubt there would be multiple entities monitoring monero transactions at this scale that aren't colluding. the price it costs you dramatically drops when you even have just 5 entities.

its the easiest and most through way to track monero with high accuracy today, and given the huge bounty on tracing monero in and out of markets and exchanges, and the low cost per tx, and the low amount of tx/s today, its a no braner. for exchanges paying for such a tracing/transaction flagging service, it certainly costs less than the cost to them from legal fees and investigations after the fact.

>> No.30314128

>>30314045
monero-chan...怖い

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>>30314045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDU_Txk06tM

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>>30312718
>>30312764
>>30312802
So basically, whatever crypto you use to buy xmr on a DEX like CakeWallet, there's no way that the IRS can know unless you self report? This sounds too good to be true. But if it is true then this fucking coin is gonna moon like no tomorrow...

>> No.30314457

>>30314342
you can report $2999.99 in loss because you self reprot that sent your xmr to the wrong address

>> No.30314725 [DELETED] 

>>30314630
Hmm, I'm tempted. Got any proof?

>> No.30314729

>>30314095
>its the easiest and most through way to track monero with high accuracy today
Kek. It is not easy at all and it does not provide high accuracy.
The transaction growth over the past year is clearly organic because it mirrors dark net adoption and app downloads. So we would be seeing a sustained, sudden spike to 100k+ transactions for what you are saying glownigger.

>> No.30314906

>>30314729
>The transaction growth over the past year is clearly organic because it mirrors dark net adoption and app downloads
this is just nothing but speculation. its not difficult to simply monitor natural on-chain growth and ensure you're creating between 2n and n/2 outputs for every output you see on chain.

>So we would be seeing a sustained, sudden spike to 100k+ transactions for what you are saying glownigger.
yeah, of course. i'm sure anybody wanting to covertly monitor monero would just immediately start spamming transactions. great thinking.

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>>30309412
Sure thiung.
>Buying $78.000 worth of XMR in 2015.
>At age 14
Implying he really has these XMR and is not just opening up a window to be bribed with XMR.

>> No.30315071

>>30314906
>this is just nothing but speculation.
No, I actually have facts on my side. WHM only uses Monero. Cake wallet downloads are skyrocketing. Daily transactions have shown organic growth over the past year, etc.
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/monero-transactions.html
>yeah, of course. i'm sure anybody wanting to covertly monitor monero would just immediately start spamming transactions. great thinking.
This is how I know you have know idea what you are talking about -- the only way to actually make enough outputs to deanonymize the network is if you control a significant amount of the daily transactions. You can't just spam a few thousand transactions here and there. You have to consistently spam a large amount of transactions so you can create decoys that you know are your own.

>> No.30315246

>>30311457
taxation is theft.

>> No.30315305

>>30315071
the point is the growth looks identical either way. you only inflate the number of transactions by what the network is already doing. nobody is even capable of noticing any difference.

you can control a significant part of the daily transactions without anybody even knowing, that's the whole point of monero. nobody knows except for whoever is creating these transactions, and anybody doing this to deanonymize monero would not be detectable from normal on-chain growth. you don't need to spam transactions, you grow your transactions with the natural growth of unknown outputs. it's really, really simple.

just stick to "trading". leave the technology to people that actually understand it.

>> No.30315455

>>30314342
>>30314457
I’ve been thinking about this too and the only issue at the end is how do you explain any gains realized from eventually selling off XMR? I honestly have no problems paying long term capital gains tax when I sell off some crypto for fiat years in the future but crypto to crypto being a taxable event is ridiculous.

>> No.30315592

>>30315305
>the point is the growth looks identical either way. you only inflate the number of transactions by what the network is already doing. nobody is even capable of noticing any difference.
nigger most of us OGs have been monitoring the network and the daily transactions over the past several years. This growth is clearly organic. Go on r/darknet and see for yourself. We are onboarding new users every day who don't care about crypto, and this is why we are seeing a long term steady increase in transactions.
>you can control a significant part of the daily transactions without anybody even knowing
we would absolutely know because the transactions would suddenly jolt way higher than they are now.
>you don't need to spam transactions
kek, yes you do retard. You do not understand what you are talking about. You can't deanonymize the network by not spamming transactions in this type of attack.
And even if you were to spam a massive amount of transactions, it still would not deanonymize the network like you think it would

>> No.30315655

>>30314999
Did you miss the part where he's the son of two national parliament members

>> No.30315661

>>30315455
The logic goes that you don't want to create favorable tax channels for alternatives to fiat because that becomes added pressure against fiat.
The point is to always make "cash king". You don't "want" people to buy houses with AAPL stock. Or buy bonds directly with monero. Etc. You want cash as a parasitic middelman there

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>>30315661
That's why XMR is so vital. Once they can't actually prove anything the only thing you have to say to anyone who asks is "ayy lmao."

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What is /XMR/'s cold wallet of choice?

>> No.30316039

>>30315655
My theory is that the parents just deposited a bunch of I’ll gotten gains in a Monero wallet and are trying to pass it off as their “tech savvy” little son investing early at like age 13 and getting lucky in crypto.

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>>30316010
Saw ColdTi a few threads ago. Seems pretty cool but you have to stamp/engrave it

>> No.30316153

>>30316010
Is that Monero-Chan when she was 12? A cutie.

>> No.30316179

>>30316010
2cm thick sterling silver strips with the seed phrase stamped into them, buried.

>> No.30316346 [DELETED] 

>>30308388
Gibs faggots 85QyyRmBNAdewNSVMPMR4AhitcC6ySCg2VVaeq1e3NfHUmooA9pPMK2KeDdPyxRgiNj2bvBRtWyUXNFC6CUhuULX5CULEvD

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>>30315763
The problem is that before this happens there are going to be a few XMRchads who are martyred as an example to the hordes of mindless tax cattle

>> No.30316356

>>30316114
>Saw ColdTi a few threads ago. Seems pretty cool but you have to stamp/engrave it
seems like it would be worth it to just find a based metal shop cut out a square of thicc stainless steel

>> No.30316431

>>30316356
but you would still have to engrave or stamp it yourself so why not use something far more covert

>> No.30316476

Whats the difference between an "atomic swap" and the btc x xmr swaps that elude.in offer?

>> No.30316475

Would anyone be interested in a limited run laser engraved coldwallet titanium knockoff with monerochan on the back?

>> No.30316504

>>30316010
Probably diy paper wallet cold storage.

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>>30311232
>You can credibly hide gigantic capital gains if you claim to have spent it on buying weed.
HOL UP! whats all this about? i have mostly regular income but spend $6,000 a year on medical pot. help me

>> No.30316533

>>30316475
depends how much it costs

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>> No.30316705

>>30310036
Monerujo works perfect for me. You can even download it from F-droid

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>>30316010
ColdTi. Stamp or engrave into titanium for cheap.

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monero car

>> No.30316839

>>30313962
You know, I’ve known for years now that sundays are almost always red days, but I’m too fucking stubborn to break out of my habit of just squirreling away part of my check in crypto the literal instant it posts to my account.

I really should just buy on Sundays lol

>> No.30316861

>>30316528
XMR isn't purely speculative, it's used as a real currency on darkweb markets. This means you can buy it and believably say you spent it all before it went even 1% up in value. (Also, I'm not a smoker myself, but I'm pretty sure you could halve your expenses if you bought darkweb weed instead of paying your slave taxes.)

Pot is beside the point, it's just a consumable darkweb commodity, the XMR equivalent of saying you lost your silver in a tragic boat accident. Except early BTC users lost millions in such "boat accidents" on a weekly basis, and it wasn't even a lie.

>> No.30316883

>>30316010
Mo.... more?

>> No.30316928

>>30316476
the coinswaps currently offered require trust in a third party -- you trust that third party who is coordinating the swap even though they may be monitoring your ip address, the amount you are sending, where you are sending, where you are sending from, etc.
Atomic swaps are p2p. They don't require a third party that buys and sells crypto. The trading happens on the respective block chains.

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>>30316861
thanks for the tips. already have niggers going through my mail so darkweb not an option

>> No.30317195

>>30317099
what the fug is this picture

>> No.30317284

>>30317195
my philosophy on investing in one picture

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30317435

>>30316835
Driving around in that beauty with your monero jacket

>> No.30317475
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friendly reminder that you can live forever if you believe the gospel (pic)

>> No.30317503

>>30316835
*monaro

>> No.30317507
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30317507

I love the citadel meme but I hate how cluttered and shitty it looks. It's clearly been re-adapted a dozen times.

Trying to redo it from scratch for Monero, here's what I have so far. Need ideas.

>> No.30317532

>>30317435
where 2 cop?

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>>30317475
>you can live forever
what a selfish wish

>> No.30317600

>>30317507
you need something to represent the nocoiners and the masses of wretched surveillance coiners

>> No.30317604

>>30316010
Safu ninjas covered in gun oil, stuck inside PVC pipe capsules and buried about 2 feet down, above my great grandfathers casket.

Who’s gonna disturb a ww2 veterans grave?

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>>30316835
Nah

>> No.30317856

>>30317507
Label the tower on the distant shore with a Bitcoin logo, and show it besieged by the IRS. The ships should represent exchanges and atomic swaps. Top of the tower should be Mars.

>>30317669
Scroll down in the wiki article, dipshit.

>> No.30318031

>>30317507
lmfao the xmr chan.

>> No.30318286

>>30317600
Yeah I'll probably just recreate a lot of the original for that part with the lava and pink wojacks. Not sure how the original artist did that lava.


>>30317856
Love the idea of labeling the crumbling tower in the background BTC, I'll try and make that work

>> No.30318400

>>30316010
a sticky note on my desk

>> No.30318566

>>30317532
https://boutique.humbleandrich.com/valentino-jackets-for-men/
pretty sure it's out of season or some shit cause I can't actually find it anywhere

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>>30317507
Put the bogs back on the top. Make Zooko a janny mopping up shit for free.

>> No.30318676

>>30318566
thanks anon

>> No.30318694
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>>30317856
fuckin based idea. The other side can have shitcoins evacuating their island as well
>>30318286
please add butterfly anon

>> No.30318717

>>30316354
save this juicy meme frens before admin removes kek

>> No.30318814

>>30318717
if no one reports it janny won't see it

>> No.30318824
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>>30317856
>>30318694
>>30318286
Use this to represent the IRS surveilling them and their subservience to fiat desu

>> No.30318854

>>30318824
Except instead of 1776 in Roman numerals label the pyramid with "THE BIG GAY."

>> No.30318894

>>30318824
itd make more sense to just have the irs logo lol

>> No.30318911

Is +3 hour withdraw time from exchange normal? Funds are safu?

>> No.30318992
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>>30318894
the IRS logo is gay though
wtf is it even supposed to be

>> No.30319198

>>30318992
An eagle, an olive branch, and a set of scales. The symbolism isn't very coherent so I can only conclude some fucking Jew made it as a modern art "deconstruction" of an older seal.

>> No.30319204

>>30318992
it's gay cause they are gay

>> No.30319499

>>30312281
Any ETA for going live?

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30320065

>>30315763
this is the longest i've seen an xmr thread go without monero-chan

>> No.30320360

>>30316835
I hope one day I can get my hands on a Holden Monaro GTS 350

>> No.30320751

>>30318814
Did i get a three day ban from a fucking janny

>> No.30320847
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30320847

>>30320065
Very bearish, crabbish, rather.

>> No.30320993

>>30320847
This is a rare Monero-Chan I have not seen before. Do you have more rare ones?

>> No.30321259
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30321259

is there some sort of symbol or logo for atomic swaps or should I just spell out "atomic swaps" below the ships?

>> No.30321343
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30321343

>>30320993
Saw some new OC a few threads back.

>> No.30321388

>>30321259
Just use pictures of atoms.

>> No.30321399
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30321399

>>30320993
some more
>>30321259
ADD THE BOGS

>> No.30321453
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30321453

>>30320993

>> No.30321506
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30321506

>>30321259

>> No.30321549
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30321549

>>30321259
Logo 1 is the official Farcaster atomic swaps logo

>> No.30321653
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30321653

>>30320993

>> No.30321692
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30321692

>>30321453
>>30320993
censored version

>> No.30321755

>>30321549
Why did they choose the shitty mcdonalds logo instead of logo 2 or 4 lmao

>> No.30321777

>>30321653
>26
Based connoisseur.

>> No.30321830

>>30321755
It's a fusion of the Monero and Bitcoin logo. It doesn't work. "B" should be vertical.

>> No.30321897

>>30321399
>ADD THE BOGS
peering down from the clouds

>> No.30321937

>>30321830
Sometimes graphic designers need to try a little less hard to be clever. I actually really like logo 4 and it doesnt look retarded. Oh well

>> No.30321992

>>30317604
You apparently

>> No.30322384

>>30321755
At least they choose a cool sounding name

>> No.30322897 [DELETED] 
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30322897

>>30321937
Seriously, why exactly didn't they look at that and NOT think to do this?????

>> No.30322998
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30322998

anyone got a bigger version?

>> No.30323057
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30323057

>>30321937
>picrel: difference between divine intellect and niggerlicious.

>> No.30323156
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30323156

>>30322998

>> No.30323410

>>30316010
memory palace

>> No.30323510

>>30323057
Why is the symbol off center? Farcaster is getting ripped off lel.

>> No.30323694
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30323694

>>30317600
>>30317856
>>30318618
>>30321399

alright what else should we add

>> No.30323739

>>30321937
Same. Why they need a logo anyway? Have they done anything yet?

>> No.30324596

>>30323694
Put the monero leather jacket on one of the frogs and a 0xMonero jester getting publically humiliated in stocks

>> No.30324635 [DELETED] 

how tf do I buy this shit if I live in Australia. Every mainstream exchange restricts -why does my home cunt suck dick so much

>> No.30324872

>>30324635
buy usdt on btcmarkets and send it to nicehash kek

>> No.30324910
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30324910

>>30323694
Nigga I don't see any drugs in there

>> No.30324911

>>30323694
>make "atomic swaps," translucent to match the logo.
>zalgo text "The Cope, The Rope, and The nocoiner."
>shade the river on the left brown, yellow, or pink with pink wojaks
>brand left tower with Zcash
>add pencilneck Zooko to the left tower
>add a few private jets in the sky

>> No.30324965

make sure the private jets have the TapJets logo since they just started accepting xmr... you could also have pornhub logo on there too

>> No.30325139
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30325139

>>30323694
Also, it needs WOWnero somewhere, the DOGE of Monero

>> No.30325147
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30325147

>>30323694
Please add an 0mxr pajeet locked in a cage surrounded by isis on the ground level.

>> No.30325193
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30325193

>>30323694

>> No.30325268
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30325268

>>30323694
add the Monero Research Lab logo somewhere appropriate for the scholars

>> No.30325377

fluffy pony should be up there with the bogs... we know this man is a gigawhale.

>> No.30325580
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30325580

>>30325377
and his $800,000 watch

>> No.30326020
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30326020

>>30323694
and a bottle of xmr's finest wine, probably with the sipping pepe on the bottom right

>> No.30326276

>>30308388
Binance is being a pain in hte ass on verifying, but I want to get XMR fast because I think crypto legislation is coming anytime and I want to have it before then. Does anyone want to trade in a roundabout way on paxful? Or any other way? I can get any coins on coinbase. Leave an email if interested and what markups you would want on your crypto, looking at buying a $1000 worth of XMR

>> No.30326342

>>30326276
read the op, newfriend

>> No.30326539
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30326539

>>30326342
I am in the process, but wanted to post quickly just in case I caught lightning in a bottle and someone was oh shit I am on paxful and I have bitcoin I wanted to get rid of for Monero, what a lucky day,

Have a meme on the house

>> No.30326567

>>30325580
Actually it’s $884k

>> No.30326640

>>30326539
paxful will come with a significant markup. Tradeogre is a small exchange but it's reliable. Otherwise, you can open a Kraken account and transfer from coinbase

>> No.30326790

MoneroChads- is it important to continue buying with USD in a bull market, or should stop where I'm at (suicide stack) and just save up for the inevitable dip several months from now.

>> No.30326801

>>30326276
Coinbase -> Tradeogre -> My Monero

>> No.30326822

>>30326790
This is the dip, faggot.

>> No.30326838
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30326838

doompa button being pushed...

>> No.30326937

>>30326790
lol this is the dip

>> No.30327139

>>30318992
>Bro can you make like, lady justice but kinda like the hermit from a led zeppelin sleeve bro?

>> No.30327295
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>>30326640
thanks, looks like it will work

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>>30326801
thanks, but I think Kraken will work

>> No.30327520
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30327520

>>30326790
>several months from now
Anon...

>> No.30327633

bought the dip. thank you, monerochads

>> No.30327678

>>30327295
you don't need to verify on binance

>> No.30327682
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30327682

>>30327633
based and orangepilled

>> No.30327716

>>30321506
meant for
>>30320993

>> No.30328740

Welcome to another crypto analysis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaWGewH5sVE

>> No.30328767

shitcoin, dumping below 200 soon

>> No.30328963
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30328963

>>30326640
thanks, I transferred Bitcoin to Monero via releasing hte Kraken

>> No.30329060

>>30321549
WTF Logo 4 is the best, 1 and 3 suck

>> No.30329098
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30329098

buy now before you are very quickly priced out forever. the make-it stack is 50 xmr.

>> No.30329341

87ozQ81roBP9Y8xKeGPxCbZ64LZzfUq9Uccvu9Xd8ipjNmYxCoeGj793GuFDs1zHXfed9amAnCFMnJnn1e4vCAHLMfGnkV7

>> No.30329418

>>30309412
Having millionaire politicians in a based government that knows how to hid money is a blessing.

>> No.30329445

>>30310101
WHY IS THIS NOT THE CASE IN TH US

>> No.30329600

>>30315661
I feel like I’m so close to understanding this. Can some help explain the point he is making here?

>> No.30329611

>>30329445
It is. The media does not cover the contents of these filings for (((obvious reasons))).

>> No.30330165
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30330165

>>30308991
#3 is the best yet imo, but may still be improved. I really like the Tao symbol idea.

>> No.30330454
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30330454

>>30328740
gay ass thumbnail no thanks

>>30329098
sure buddy

>> No.30331121
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30331121

>>30327295
>literally watching Dr. No with my wife right now
based Sean Connery poster

>> No.30331854
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30331854

Is there some meme about not sharing your private address, only your public one? Heard someone say that about bitcoin. I only see one address in the GUI wallet when I click "receive". It's safe to share that, right?

>> No.30332100
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30332100

why the fuck has kraken not verified my fucking account? im so ready to be a slave to monero and spend all my fiat dollars on it but they won't let me FUCK

>> No.30332164

>>30332100
I'll speed up your verification. Hold on.

>> No.30332487
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30332487

>>30313548
>low value txs!!
>amounts are blinded
You fuckin tard

>> No.30332873

>>30317507
add 1.87 sumtin stack

>> No.30334211
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30334211

OH NO NO NO

>> No.30334231

>>30332100
Localmonero, your welcome fren

>> No.30334342

>>30316835
This is why Monero will never be taken seriously. It sounds too much like a car for a musclehead.

>> No.30334431

if the government decides to ban monero and nobody can access it on the exchanges it’s pretty much over for us isn’t it? This is the only thing stopping me from buying a 50 stack.

On the flip side if Elizabeth warrens wealth tax proposal actually picks up steam then monero is probably the biggest beneficiary and could see absolutely massive inflows from rich people protecting themselves.

I’m conflicted

>> No.30334511

>>30334431
Existing dex tech makes it basically impossible to ban. Atomic swaps aren't even needed.

>> No.30334559

Beginning of November .0115

Beginning of March .0042

This is what monero has to show for the bull run where other coins have gone 100-200%

XMR would have to be one of the worst performers during this run its insane.

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30334566

>>30334431
>if the government decides to ban monero and nobody can access it on the exchanges it’s pretty much over for us isn’t it?

It would be extremely painful.

>> No.30334643

>>30334342
Implying muscleheads would understand the potential on monero kek

>> No.30334694

>>30314999
checked and politicianpilled

>> No.30334709

>>30334431
Not like all governments will ban it. Therefore the world will still have on ramps through various currencies. People will also continue to trade cash or goods for monero. You should realize that monero has some of the most hardcore freedom lovers who despise being government slaves.

>> No.30334790

>>30334559
People are fucking retarded normies think crypto is anonymous by default

>> No.30334903

>>30327395
>implying joe even gives a shit so long as the harassment is done

>> No.30334967

>>30321549
4 is so much better than all of them. people hate simplicity wtf

>> No.30335240
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30335240

We are in a crab hell

>> No.30335625

>>30334790
you will be crying about this to your grave, cuck. you will never make it.
>s-stupid normies, th-they just don't get it
lmao and you the bigbrained poster making all the poor financial decisions, because you're smart. HAHAHAHAHA.
>>30334643
>muh potential
lol ok loser

>> No.30336238

nice bull run XMR, ratio been absolutely shredded. impressive stuff.

>> No.30336299 [DELETED] 

haha, nice joke
my bro’s will never go for this scam on 4chan
we are not an idiots

>BHC -all on holding on Julswap and JustLiquidity trading

>> No.30336372

>>30318992
>>30319198
>eagle
>is actually a vulture
pottery

>> No.30336423

So when will the atomic swaps be live on the main net?

>> No.30336535

Wow Monero is doing great right now. It has almost completely decoupled from BTC as evidenced by a stable USD valuation while the Satoshi value goes up and down based on how BTC itself moves and barely influences XMR itself.

This means that XMR has its own investors, community and usage completely separate from Bitcoin. Most people most likely don't have the economic background necessary to realize how important that is.

It basically signifies that the institutional investors behind Monero realize that Monero has a far greater holding potential that the market currently values at around $200. What this also means is that if the market crashes right now Monero would still largely retain this value and might even move up in valuation.

This together with the delta inflation between Monero and BTC widening in favor of Monero suggests that the next couple of years will be really interesting.

That said "Atomic Swap" is a white elephant and won't bring any value to Monero. It might even be a detriment as it would re-couple Monero back up to bitcoin which is actually something we should avoid for the long-term.

How normal crypto is linked to BTC is that money gets pumped into BTC. But the amount of trading in the other coins stay the same since they are primarily traded between BTC/Coin anyway so their valuation moves up together with Bitcoin for the most part.

Because Monero decoupled in January 2021 (for institutional investment reasoning) The direct trading pair for Monero is actually USD and EUR to Monero NOT BTC. This means that if BTC pumps. It will leave XMR unaffected. But if BTC dumps it will also leave XMR unaffected. It's completely decoupled.

Currently we aren't in a "bull market" we are in a Bitcoin bubble. Of course bitcoin is shooting up and everything coupled to bitcoin is shooting up as a result of the trading pair being btc/coin.

This is extremely good news for Monero and I'm currently liquidating my stock portfolio to go all-in.

>> No.30336719

>>30336535
Read your first 7 words and didn't bother with the rest.

Monero has been one of the worst performers this bullrun it is insane how badly it has performed. Look at XMR/BTC tells the whole story when comparing to other stalwart coins.

>> No.30336885

>If bitcoin goes up and XMR stays stable isn't that a bad thing?
It means a decoupling which signifies that XMR has its own ecosystem that is supporting itself and growing on its own separately from all other cryptocurrencies. That means that XMR has for the first time real potential to replace bitcoin in actual use case
>If XMR and bitcoin are decoupled why should I not buy and hold more bitcoin now for maximum profit
Bitcoin is already in a bubble right now. Since XMR is decoupled from Bitcoin it will most likely have its own separate bubbles at completely other times. Would you rather buy an inflated asset or a pre-inflation asset. That is for you to decide. If you're a very good trader you can sell bitcoin at the top and buy XMR at the bottom.
>Does the decoupling mean that XMR keeps falling in sats?
No it means that XMR stopped caring at all about sats. The valuation is based on what investors actually use to buy and hold XMR. USD and EUR. That said the inflation inbalance means that over the coming years XMR should still gain sats against bitcoin, ESPECIALLY now that it has decoupled and found its own usecase and community
>What about atomic swaps/tail emission/magic monero feature X
Doesn't really matter and none of these events will result in much of a valuation change. Specifically atomic swaps is actually harmful and should be boycotted by the Monero community as it reverses the decoupling and lowers the growth potential of Monero in the long run. In fact we should have been doing the opposite. We should make it impossible or at least as hard as possible for people that hold BTC to buy Monero so that their financial basis doesn't transfer over to Monero. This would make it far more likely for Monero to actually replace BTC altogether. I hope atomic swaps doesn't gain any adoption and barely anyone uses it when it comes out. That would be a very bullish sign.

>> No.30337051

>>30336535
I also tend to think that Monero has finally decoupled from Bitcoin but I'm waiting for more time to pass and to get more evidence to be certain that that's the case. I'm still kinda skeptical.

>> No.30337074

>>30336719
I'm a long term investor active in the crypto space since 2010 /g/. You have to look at the greater picture otherwise you're going to lose out on gains by chasing the short term like how all those guys sold BTC at a couple hundred USD in 2012 and a couple thousand USD in 2014 mt gox fud.

Crypto is here to stay in the long term. And eventually you have to ask what you are actually investing in. My best gains have always been to buy into fundamentals and hold for years before selling at maturity. Helped me when I stepped into Bitcoin. Helped when I stepped into Ethereum and helped when I stepped into Chainlink.

I only stepped into Monero January 2021 precisely because it decoupled from BTC which is one of the most bullish signs you can have in crypto. It's what happened to ETH as well before I decided to invest in it.

Monero moving independently guarantees it will be a top 3 crypto. There are only 2 maybe 3 projects that I know of that behave this way. Ethereum moves independently from bitcoin. Chainlink moves independently from bitcoin (but not completely independently from ethereum). Monero moves completely independent from any crypto.

For me personally as a long time crypto investor it's a massive buy in sign.

>> No.30337145

>>30337051
XMR has now shown for three months that Bitcoin moons = XMR drops in satoshi but holds USD valuation. Bitcoin drops = XMR rises in satoshi but holds USD valuation.

Three months of this exact pattern stops being coincidence and evidence towards decoupling.

>> No.30337233

>>30337145
True but 3 months is not enough time to know if Monero will follow the large scale trend of crypto price movement.

>> No.30337480

>>30337233
Well so far there has never been a crypto that didn't follow the large scale trend of crypto price movements. Even Ethereum that moves largely independently from Bitcoin still fell to the same bubble inflation and then pop deflation pattern.

If XMR manages to actually defy large scale crypto trends then we truly have something special on our hands. It just being decoupled from bitcoin alone is already grounds enough for me personally to invest more into XMR. If it decouples from crypto price movement in general we have a serious contender to completely flip BTC. The fact that there is a chance that XMR might defy general crypto trends is in itself already insane when you think about it.

>> No.30337511

>>30337145
When BTC drops, XMR has dropped along with practically the entire market

It hasn't decoupled from the dumps at all not sure what you're talking about.

>> No.30337713

>>30337511
If you look at the charts. January 11th is the precise date you can start seeing decoupling happen. From that point forwards Monero is barely affected by what bitcoin does (neither pump or dump) and the valuation gain of Monero happens independently of what bitcoin does.

Another way to look at it. During the dumps what was the best performer? XMR. During pumps what was the worst performer? XMR. Great decoupling signs.

Especially because that January 2021 date coincides with the inflation of XMR dropping below BTC inflation is what makes it so exciting.

Yeah I know I sound like a manic but that's because I'm excited as such investment opportunities are very rare and you discovering them when they are just starting is even more rare. If I'm correct and this is truly the signs of decoupling. I'm going to be a very very rich man indeed.

>> No.30337836

>>30337713
Well I look at it as ever since the bittrex delisting it has been in absolute free fall, bottom has fallen out of the ratio and hasn't even recovered half of where it was. It is floundering.

And it still most certainly dumps when everything does and barely pumps with anything

>> No.30338035

>>30308388
200 usd stable coin xD

>> No.30338097

>>30337540
>Aka for midwits ren is like monero with smart contracts
what did he mean by this bros?

>> No.30338131

>>30337836
Hey man I'm relatively new to XMR. I just look at charts and saw the decoupling signs to XMR and decided to invest more and more as the decoupling evidence keep piling up. I don't care about short term stuff like delisting on exchanges as what truly matters is that XMR moves on its own not influenced by other crypto which has been the case 100% of the time since january 2021 when it also became the lowest inflation crypto with PoW out there. Coincidence? plausible. Decoupling? probable.

You basically have three type of crypto investors 1) green candle chasers/p&d/TA/moon bois. 2) fundamentalist investors which is what most Monero investors are and 3) decoupling investors like me. So far I think decoupling investors have gotten the most profit as they would only have invested into bitcoin, eth, chainlink and now xmr all when they were still low valuation.

>And it still most certainly dumps when everything does and barely pumps with anything
Probably not true since january 11th.

>>30338035
Yes you are recognizing this fact but you don't realize how valuable that is (stays 200 USD even if btc moons or dumps = decoupling).

>> No.30338182

when I get my stimulus check it's all going straight into xmr

>> No.30338219

>>30338131
yes i noticed when we drop from the high 280 and dipped to 170 with de btc dump the week after when the whole market top 50 coins or so red monero green or monero red market green

>> No.30338266

>>30337713
i too have the feeling of decoupling of XMR for some time now but it certainly isn't completed
kind of stable coin would be good in normal circumstances but you're forgetting that fiat value crashes now since longer than january
effectually making monero worth less and less

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>>30336423
never. never ever.

>> No.30338281

>>30312281
woah cant believe theres a demo already
>chad@thundercock
rofl

>> No.30338284

>>30323694
You can put that Ukranian kid that's 24 with like 185,000 XMR up near the top. Dude has 1% of the supply lmao.

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>>30336535
WOW I love losing money now

>> No.30338349

>>30338314
shot term retarded brain

>> No.30338401

>>30338314
You seem too emotional. I get the feeling you buy exclusively at the top of PnDs. Settle down.

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Why is the mining section just an archive link to the mining page on the official site? Why not just post that link directly

>> No.30338432

>>30338266
Decoupling means stable USD value in the short term but massive valuation gain in the long term. ETH was at $6 and chainlink was at $1.20 when they showed signs of decoupling for example. They aren't $6 and $1.20 now.

>>30338314
How can you be in crypto and not even know of decoupling signs. Are you just new or merely retarded.

>> No.30338626

XMR already mooned, isn't it over? not every coin is BTC

>> No.30338704

>>30338626
In my perspective it didn't moon. People just recognized it started decoupling in january and jumped in like me in early february.

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>>30338035
Yes.

>> No.30338863

>>30329098
can you pass me some of that hopium

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These are some of the comfiest threads on this board, wagmi anons

>> No.30339538

>>30338704
>and jumped in like me in early february.
lmao you bought while it peaked and this is just a giant cope. please stop posting like a retard, you're jinxing these threads with your qtard tier fanfiction, it's cringe.

>> No.30339633

my monero daemon says everything is synced up but the GUI client is still out of sync? any help?? :(

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>>30339538
>7 posts by this ID
Who could possibly be behind this

>> No.30339907

>>30339633
nevermind, I'm stupid it's doing the wallet blocks

>> No.30339943

>>30335240
we're in a buy in oasis

>> No.30339961

tomorrow i will add 5 XMR since sunday is my buying day

>> No.30340060

>>30339538
You clearly lack reading comprehension or skimmed over my earlier posts I myself jumped in in January at first signs of decoupling. Investors like me saw signs of decoupling and jumped in in February causing that pump. I currently am still increasing my hold because every time BTC does something and XMR is unaffected it increases the chance of decoupling.

If you don't understand the value of decoupling then I don't think you're knowledgeable enough about the subject to talk about it.

It's not merely used in crypto but also for stock valuation like decoupling from price movements in dow jones/nasdaq.

>Giant cope
>Jinxing
>Qtard tier
>Cringe

Please don't tell me you hold XMR as it would be a bearish sign.

>> No.30340191

XMR has not decoupled from BTC. Just open the USDT charts and there's the same fucking red candle in both.

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Time to invest all life savings.

>> No.30340380

>>30340191
January 11th up until now has had XMR moving independently from BTC. BTC pumps, xmr stays stable in usd. Btc dumps xmr stays stable in usd. XMR also pumps and dumps independently of what btc does and continues to do so.

We will see though. Every day bitcoin pumps and xmr stays stable or it dumps and xmr stays stable just increases the chance of a full decouple.

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IT'S OVER
I KNEEL BITCOIN-SAMA
I REPENT MY SINS

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>>30340645

IT'S GOING UP

I CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE IT

>> No.30340704

>>30340645
My child, keep holding. Salvation only awaits.

>> No.30340745

>>30340692
Yeah it's decoupled so if BTC is dumping in USD it means monero gains satoshi value. If BTC pumps it means monero loses satoshi value.

BTC movement stopped influencing monero in early January.

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>> No.30341163

I don’t own mine to but monero chan makes me want to. I think I’ll pick some up.

>> No.30341194

>>30336885
>We should make it impossible or at least as hard as possible for people that hold BTC to buy Monero so that their financial basis doesn't transfer over to Monero.
I think leeching off the bitcoin ecosystem is a wise move to get things going. If bitcoin isn't going away and atomic swaps work, Monero won't be going away either

>> No.30341635

Crypto newfag, should I buy some of this? I have a Binance account

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>>30341635
>Crypto newfag, should I buy some of this? I have a Binance account

DYOR

>> No.30341897

>>30341635
monero is literally the only crypto I can recommend right now
but then again every holder will recommend the coin they hold
so dyor

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Monero monthly transactions constantly increasing

>> No.30342402

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFSvuKWLGA4
keith woods just put this out

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Is it necessary to use CoinJoin before sending btc to be exchanged on Bisq? Or is this step redundant because of the conversion to xmr?

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I have a the official GUI wallet (v.11.1) from like 2017. How do I upgrade my old wallet to the current version so that I can actually use it?

I'm technologically incompetent so explain it like I'm a retard.

>> No.30342533

>>30342500
https://www.getmonero.org/downloads/
download the latest version install, load wallet from file

>> No.30342651

Does anyone know when you will be able to buy XMR through coinbase. When this does happen I'll throw in a good chunk of money into it.

>> No.30342724

>>30340380

decouple my ass

>> No.30342723

>>30342651
I wouldn’t count on it. They only add shitcoins now.

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>>30342651
i dont think theyll have it for awhile.
you be dumb to wait so long

>> No.30342810

>>30340380
xmr's litteraly been following bitcoin's up and down path, what are you on about ?

>> No.30342829

>>30338035

>$250 stablecoin
>$220 stablecoin
>$200 stablecoin
YOU ARE HERE
>$150 stablecoin
>$100 stablecoin

>> No.30342830

loooooooool
>wanna become a whale
>go for trash 3lvl scam
>fail with everything and wee in the corner

you may not be a genius to realize what platform to join
my portfolio with enq and their node systems are coolopp for this year

>> No.30342851

>>30342723
>>30342739
Do you know why the won't be adding it?

>> No.30342857

>>30342724
Look at the BTC/XMR pair chart. XMR is gaining satoshi value because BTC drops while basically crabbing in USD value. That is what we call decoupling. XMR doesn't care what BTC does it is doing its own thing. Only two projects that happened before were Ethereum and partly chain link.

>> No.30342899 [DELETED] 

>>30308388
Can I have money plz I’m starvin 82xG65wAGwgLxJBxz5imdN44Ju5MufZPi66voUBHoHLwQdUKZzoHTzaKGkuuhNmE4LTGDWELZzg6sHDoi3zz3f4i88HCcaS

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>>30340380
just grabbed this from trading view

>> No.30342958

>>30342899
prepare for ban

>> No.30342995

>>30342851
They'll never add privacy coins because they're afraid of regulators. Just stop being retarded and get them somewhere else

>> No.30343050

>>30342810
Since January 11th every time btc pumped xmr stayed stable in usd. Every time bitcoin dumped XMR stayed stable in usd.

This indicates that XMR has decoupled and that XMR has its own (usd denominated) investors, its own community and its own use case that is completely separate from whatever bitcoin is doing.

My theory is that because XMR is used as darknet currency it has dodged the speculation bubble bitcoin is in right now and valuation gain is organic growth through usage instead of speculation . Meaning over time valuation will grow while resistant to bear markets

We will see what happens.

>> No.30343061

>>30342921
See 28th feb

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>>30308388
with $TORN u can enjoy privacy and etherume echo system including DEFI, NFT , FARMING , STACKING and what not ?

>> No.30343161

>>30342851
Because it works for its intended purpose

>> No.30343165

>>30308577
Thing big ,you’d use crypto as an actual currency by working for it or selling goods for it just like you do with paper money

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>>30343094
>with $TORN u can enjoy privacy and etherume echo system including DEFI, NFT , FARMING , STACKING and what not ?

Monero is a Swiss Bank Account, not a Swiss Army Knife.

>> No.30343270

>>30342899
stop begging

>> No.30343354

>>30343180
>Monero is a Swiss Bank Account, not a Swiss Army Knife.
I'm stealing this

>> No.30343446

>>30342899
I sent you .2 xmr, now fuck off.

>> No.30343764

Complete cryptocurrency noob here. Is this coin good for long term keeping without babying it? Basically can I just dump 3k dollars into it, forget about my account and come back to it in 5 years to the same amount, or do I need to do the dagger dance of buying low selling high every day so I don't lose it, like I see people do with other coins?

I'd invest into stocks but cryptocoins always seemed more appealing to me and I missed the Bitcoin ship. This seemed like the only non-meme option at a first glance, but I don't have the spare time to get involved in something highly volatile.

>> No.30343809

>>30343764
You have to go back.

>> No.30343901

>>30343809
I was told to come here from other boards by what I assume to be one of your acolytes.

>> No.30343965

>>30343764
You should do your own research although I personally think monero should be very stable as it has organic growth right now and not bubble/speculation like bitcoin. You can probably buy it right now and cash out in 5 years with a nice profit without you having anxiety attacks like bitcoin speculators.

>> No.30343985

>>30343764
yes you can just sit on it
even if it underperforms during this run there’s only good signals for the long term
read the op and watch the links as a starter

>> No.30344067

>>30343764
Yes. Watch video linked in the op first. dyor as always.

>> No.30344200

>>30342857
this has to be bait or satire. why do you keep repeating the same sentences every post?

>> No.30344389

>>30343901
>one of your acolytes
yes brother, you have come to the right place

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>>30342651
Coinbase is very jewish, no way in hell are they listing XMR.

>> No.30344665

>>30344617
with jews, you lose

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>>30344617
But the Jews are looking at XMR.
https://coinmarketcap.com/headlines/news/grayscale-confirms-it-is-considering-making-new-products-on-chainlink-ada-polkadot-xmr-and-others/

>> No.30344752

>>30311457
Yes and who cares

>> No.30344786

>>30312802
Dex have no KYC even many Dex, go be afraid and buy stocks plz

>> No.30344900

NEW THREAD: >>30344885

>> No.30344903

What happened to the whole asic scandal from few years ago, and all the forks?

>> No.30345058

>>30343764
Monero is probably the only safe bet for existing in 5 years.

>> No.30345579

>>30343764
Yes, it's a safe alternative to BTC and unlike BTC safe from kikes. There is always a need for privacy in financials.

>> No.30345974

new general :
>>30344885