Portfolio Thread

[Anonymous No.49972456]

Let's see those bags /biz/

[Anonymous No.49972513]

>>49972456
You should dump the LINK.

[Anonymous No.49972561]

>>49972456
All I have is 1 btc and 50 xmr.

[Anonymous No.49972581]

>>49972456
You got it chief.

>>49972561
not a ton of potential for multiplying your gains, but based all the same

[Anonymous No.49972593]

>>49972456
Sell the worthless moon bags and get more monero
>>49972561
Based

[Anonymous No.49972606]

>>49972456
I have this and $30k cash
ICP will make me a millionaire

[Anonymous No.49972813]

>>49972456
Rate mine

[Anonymous No.49972988]

About 220k.
All in stablecoins, you guys are really gullible if you think we're near the bottom

[Anonymous No.49973019]

[Anonymous No.49973185]

[Anonymous No.49973431]

Based. Dare I say redpilled even

[Anonymous No.49973478]

>>49972456
You diversify too much for 20k. My honest suggestion would be to go 90% link 10% eth and wait a few months.

[Anonymous No.49973500]

>>49972513
Nexo and bancor are going bankrupt.
Cope, seethe, dilate, then rope.

[Anonymous No.49973536]

>>49972581
Whats your juno avg?

[Anonymous No.49974166]

I used to be worth $170k
Oh how I have fallen...
I also lost my job.
I have $7k cash, 10 oz of gold, 350 oz of silver, 5k rounds of ammo and 7 rifles, plus a paid of C6 corvette and a mercedes. Also 12 MRE boxes
Will I ever make it bros???

[Anonymous No.49974334]

[Anonymous No.49974344]

>105 iq

[Anonymous No.49974365]

50K HBAR
5K MATIC
2K ALGO
2K XLM
500 API3
500,000 SYLO
14K CRO

Considering the following
>BAT
>PRQ
>ALBT

[Anonymous No.49974496]

>>49973536
I stopped counting a while ago, but under $7. The BTC is all profit from selling Juno in March.

[Anonymous No.49974725]

No need to laugh at me I do that plenty enough already

[Anonymous No.49974757]

>>49974725
>>49974334
>>49972813
>>49972606
Stop "investing" in crypto right now and get a job. Either that or go all in on something not in the top 1000, and pray to Vishnu you get lucky.

[Anonymous No.49974768]

>>49974757
I have two

[Anonymous No.49974821]

>>49974768
Then get a better job or get something dumb like WOW and wait for it to do a 40X.

[Anonymous No.49974828]

>>49974344
>>49974166
ngmi

[Anonymous No.49975034]

>>49972606
30k ape into ICP with 8 year non dissolving stake. Be a chad for once in your life bub

[Anonymous No.49975091]

>>49974821
>playing the shitcoin lottery when I can just slowly accumulate stuff on discount
How about no

[Anonymous No.49975110]

>>49974821
What in the world is WOW? What is the project all about?

[Anonymous No.49975364]

>>49972456
My TRI was worth $13k at one point, but I didn’t sell like a dumbass

[Anonymous No.49975399]

btc,snx,eth,sol in that order

[Anonymous No.49975492]

>>49972581
do you think Juno will reach ATH again, or what's your sell target price next time?

[Anonymous No.49975548]

Juno pajeet thread

[Anonymous No.49975672]

>>49974757
No.

[Anonymous No.49975689]

>>49975399
We just got few differences in portfolio. I hold ETH, SOL, EGLD, and FUFU. I staked on UwUFUFU.com for 25% interest.

[Anonymous No.49976861]

>>49972456
The midwit folio.

[Anonymous No.49976947]

>>49972456
> 21k
With that amount you might as well go all in on LCX. You will reach 6 digits in a year.

[Anonymous No.49977222]

>>49972606
ngmi

[Anonymous No.49977338]

>>49975110
Wownero, Monero fork/meme-coin. Probably not the best degen pick, but fairly easy to pump being rank #1300. It went from 4 cents to $2 last year, and privacy is getting more popular. Everest ID might be a good one as well.

>>49975492
It went to $46 on pure hype alone, and they've been building good stuff since, so I'm fairly certain it'll pass its old ath.

[Anonymous No.49977386]

>>49973478
It was worth more before

[Anonymous No.49979106]

>>49972581
should sell my OSMO, SCRT, and ATOM and funnel them into the rest or a new coin?

I mostly have them for airdrops.

[Anonymous No.49980165]

>>49979106
It's what I'd do, since I like keeping it minimal. Juno's got a lower mcap than those three, higher apy relative to inflation, and there's no point having a $95 bag.

[Anonymous No.49980784]

make it next run?
trying to get 1000 LINK

[Anonymous No.49981051]

>>49974757
I agree with you that its a fuck right now to invest in crypto, got a job already and looking to have some interaction with my favourite sports athletes in the
metaverse .

[Anonymous No.49982476]

>>49974828
What wallet is this?

[Anonymous No.49982956]

Yeah i'm a disgusting retard who FOMO'd all my savings in during peak of last bull market, but I accept my losses and am not quitting.

All assets staking 20-100% APY as well btw

[Anonymous No.49982968]

Feeling stable

[Anonymous No.49983013]

I had $300,000 in November. I've not checked it for a month. I don't want to know.

[Anonymous No.49983082]

>>49972456

[Anonymous No.49983123]

>>49972456
>xmr and scrt
based. someone that understands the meaning of crypto

[Anonymous No.49983172]

>>49974166
you'll probably make it just based on that stupid d0bo coin and all the retards fomoing in it next bullrun.

[Anonymous No.49983198]

>>49981051
>a fuck right now to invest in crypto
yea, just like it was "a fuck" when btc was 4k in 2018 and 2020. go buy high and sell low.

[Anonymous No.49983208]

>>49983013
You're probably at 30-50k.

[Anonymous No.49983332]

>>49972456
>>49974828
>>49982968

Mine has all the tokens here, and also has QANX and TRX

[Anonymous No.49983442]

>>49982968
$280k in a stable coin is both stupid and irresponsible. No matter your perceived opinion on stable coins they pose an insane risk. The biggest one is USDT and its founders have lied for years about what's backing Tether and they, literally all of the key members of Tether LTD are convicted criminals, one of the was caught with a trove of stuff I don't want to even want to describe. Tether is literally a ponzi scheme and when its come out that nothing is backing them we're going to see a run on USDT, USDC, and every thing in crypto like never before. Severe liquidity issue isnt even a remote description. Then the sweeping regulations will come in full swing resulting in 99.9% of cryptocurrencies dying. I'm not going to tell you what projects to invest in but holding a stablecoin if it's not going to be used immediately is a very bad idea.

Anyways good luck to you anon.

[Anonymous No.49983446]

King shit coomin at you

[Anonymous No.49983619]

>>49974828
venush blessing sire

[Anonymous No.49983771]

What’s easiest way to get funds into keplr wallet on cosmos so I can fomo into juno

[Anonymous No.49984000]

>>49983442
Hmm prob cex risk as well?
Better the cash be in bank i guess or outside of crypto is what you are saying

[Anonymous No.49984037]

Reminder that there is not and never will be enough liquidity to liquidate all these portfolios

[Anonymous No.49984376]

>>49975548
i guess that too

[Anonymous No.49984412]

>>49974757
I agree with you faggot, not investing anymore, holding and providing liquidity for ORE on allianceblock, but still looking for a JOB, you any for me?

[Anonymous No.49984617]

>>49972456
i only have 1BTC

[Anonymous No.49984633]

>>49972561
rich nigger

[Anonymous No.49984800]

>>49983771
buy atom and transfer it to keplr then junoswap or osmosis to swap it for juno.

[Anonymous No.49985501]

>>49972456
Rate me. Waiting to slurp up to 1 BTC when we bottom this cycle

[Anonymous No.49986108]

>>49985501
I like everything except for luna and grt.
Is matic needed since tranaction fees are so cheap? Should I pick up a matic bag if it drops to 30-40 cents again?

How low do you think the bottom is?

>>49980165
Yea you're right. Those 2 are small bags. Is the atom a small bag too?

[Anonymous No.49986326]

>>49972513
LINK is based. Don't sell it short

[Anonymous No.49986341]

>>49972456
Can see XMR and SCRT, was expecting to see some RAIL

[Anonymous No.49986351]

>>49972593
Kek, Ethereum is a moon bag. Are you fuckin nuts

[Anonymous No.49986461]

>>49972561
No ETH?

[Anonymous No.49986466]

>>49986341
whats rail? i like XMR but the SCRT "bag" is just for airdrops desu

[Anonymous No.49986505]

>>49972988
Good choice but there is no problem paying attention to a few low caps showing high promises. As for one, I think Railgun, Mina protocol and privacy focused protocols are making good impressions.

>Near the bottom
So, you are saying we are at the bottom?

[Anonymous No.49986537]

>>49986466
I guess this explains a Rail. Just a privacy project like the rest

[Anonymous No.49986563]

>>49986466
>SCRT "bag" is just for airdrops desu
Kek, why the negative sentiment. I don't think it is just limited to that

[Anonymous No.49986908]

>>49986326
Got LINK, thinking of selling together with ORE should hold still?
I will hold BTC and ETH

[Anonymous No.49986992]

>>49986505
Privacy should be a thriving thing in the space atm, especially now security is needed in defi. I also hold a project that offers a high level of privacy and security with their ID product.
Users control all their assets with one login across all chain

[Anonymous No.49987023]

>>49986108
Probably 10k to 14k BTC. I'll ne very comfy with 1 whole BTC lol

[Anonymous No.49987075]

>>49986351
Eth is king

[Anonymous No.49987130]

Risk taker

[Anonymous No.49987142]

>>49974828
When did you buy the 1M pnk/how much did the stack cost you?

[Anonymous No.49987207]

I sold all my bags except my lunc gambling mishap in the event of a miracle and shib because of the meme potential. Bought doge at 69 for the meme.

From this point onward all I buy is Link. Only a few hundred more till my suicide stack is complete.

[Anonymous No.49987217]

>>49972456
1129xmr
29k scrt

[Anonymous No.49987221]

>>49972813
DCA on CRO and stake on supercharger, you'll get Alts you can trade for more CRO

Also, right now you'll be getting Eth at a sale price

[Anonymous No.49987373]

>>49973185
Still holding munch. Wow

[Anonymous No.49987396]

Hold about 36k junk, I mean juno between pools and single side staking. Wish me luck

[Anonymous No.49987410]

>>49983082
>120k Link stack
hope you held on to it.

[Anonymous No.49987482]

>>49972988
Why are you even in crypto at all if you believe we aren’t near the bottom? Asking as someone waiting, with 100% in cash.

[Anonymous No.49987493]

>>49972456
512$ portfolio

[Anonymous No.49987502]

>>49987221
Isn’t supercharger just a scam

[Anonymous No.49987618]

>>49987482
Because thinking you are smarter than the chaos of the market is retarded. Did you not see all the threads that tripfag oracle was making claiming 28k was the absolute rock solid bottom before he ran away? Nobody knows. Unless you're a billionaire who actually controls the supply.

[Anonymous No.49988076]

>>49987618
Great response, hope you make it.

[Anonymous No.49988383]

>>49987502
Why? It's a kind of launchpool they take no tokens off you

[Anonymous No.49988761]

Not showing amounts, but total is $9k
I'm trying to consolidate. The Radix and Near are being unstaked.
Where should I put them in? More PRQ or QANX?
Or play it safe and go for Tezos or ROSE?

>>49987130
the fuck are those?

>>49985501
lol how much did you loose with LUNC?

>>49983446
good speed, degen retard.
go make us proud

[Anonymous No.49988842]

>>49988761
Same anon. I only put in $20 kek

[Anonymous No.49988896]

>>49972456
10k HBAR
50 AVAX
50 DOT
10 BSC

Should I gamble on GRT or ATOM?

[Anonymous No.49989515]

>>49988896
GRT suicide stack is 10k

[Anonymous No.49989540]

100k DAI
40 WETH

[Anonymous No.49989662]

>>49987482
>>49988076
This type of "great response" was also given by retards at 3.5k per btc value in 2018, waiting for "muh 1k bottom". It never happened. People waiting for bottoms without DCAing on the way down (in this case starting at 20k and lower or whatever), will never catch the bottom. Same with trying to dump your entire bag at the top.

[Anonymous No.49989755]

Im gay and hold chainlink

[Anonymous No.49989800]

poorfag coming in

[Anonymous No.49989828]

7.26 BTC

[Anonymous No.49989830]

This is officially a poorfolio thread now. Started with 4K in BTC and ETH. Mixed my bag up and saw a high of 32K. Feels bad frens.

[Anonymous No.49989837]

>>49973019
solana is scam bro

buy link or regret for the rest of your life

[Anonymous No.49989856]

>>49974166
dude you have good portfolio but only if its 5+Million one

Focus on on legit alts and you will easily make it

[Anonymous No.49990087]

>>49972513
Dump LINK for what?

[Anonymous No.49990162]

>>49972593
But you know that shit aint moving

[Anonymous No.49990235]

>>49988383
But I think you almost always get better APR in other places, like their defi app, not sure if it’s still the case though

[Anonymous No.49990269]

>>49980784
youre either gonna make it or rope
i like the conviction though.
it does surprise me how nobody is holding btc in bear market lmao

[Anonymous No.49990289]

>>49987023
>Probably 10k to 14k BTC
>BTC goes to 17k and doesnt buy because waiting for 13k
>4k difference
lol as if that'll matter in 5 years

[Anonymous No.49990614]

>>49973500
More reason why DEXs are the future, even more an hybridDEX would be a game changer.

[Anonymous No.49990640]

>>49974365
>BAT
>ALBT
Checked and based

[Anonymous No.49990770]

>>49990289
I bought my first 0.1 of a bitcoin at 18k lol. Saving cash atm

[Anonymous No.49990944]

>>49975492
Nothing is going back to ATH anytime soon just follow the next trend, put your asset in your wallt and use decentralized exchanges for now. Be safe

[Anonymous No.49990967]

>>49972456
I noticed you don't own b0nk

[Anonymous No.49990994]

>>49973500
They are shorting LINK, thats guaranteed profit, they will never go bankrupt.

[Anonymous No.49990997]

>>49979106
>I mostly have them for airdrops.
Airdrops are freebies, I got my hands on TXA recently and I think it might be worth something in the nearest future, the usecase looks good for exchanges.

[Anonymous No.49991005]

>>49972606
ngi this shit almost ruined my life bestard. but thanks to staking my AxlToken and few others too would have been in the fucking street now.

[Anonymous No.49991024]

>>49984617
Keep at it, YGMI.

[Anonymous No.49991061]

>>49985501
You could do better with some lowcaps you know
>ALBT
>SOV
>KGO

[Anonymous No.49991116]

>>49990614
I have been seeing talks about a HybridDEX launching soon, just wondering how scalable this will be and state of liquidity or it might just end up like the current CEXs we have.

[Anonymous No.49991170]

>>49990087
more LINK

[Anonymous No.49991261]

>>49980784
you will make it from QANX alone.

my turn:
GNS
QANX
MBX/MOBIE
SYLO
MTV

[Anonymous No.49991286]

>>49983332
>>49988761
BASED QANX HOLDERS!

[Anonymous No.49991487]

>>49991061
Quite shocked y'all are still buying despite the volume to the upside is weak asf, staying off the market to focus on P2Es, particularly Cometh since they have a price pool of 5000 USD for the ongoing mission.

[Anonymous No.49991718]

>>49990087
And play Web3 games, that takes your mind off the market till shit gets better.

[Anonymous No.49991766]

>>49972593
Definitely, Monero is based but I'd also consider other privacy options with long term potentials like Aztec and Railgun.

[Anonymous No.49991841]

>>49991718
The web3 space is having a lot going on lately and had one of their biggest news when Cristiano Ronaldo decided to have his own community. This might bring a lot of fans into the space leading to mass adoption.

[Anonymous No.49991932]

>>49991061
Lowcaps are good choices cause there's a lot of room for growth

[Anonymous No.49991965]

>>49990269
I think the fud is just at the highest rates ever

[Anonymous No.49991981]

[Anonymous No.49992015]

>>49991024
I have just $10 worth of it. Am I gmi too :)

[Anonymous No.49992017]

>>49991981
Impressive

[Anonymous No.49992036]

>>49972456

[Anonymous No.49992038]

>>49991981
Anon you're living the life.

[Anonymous No.49992069]

>>49991981
Nice. you escape the cage yet or still stacking?

[Anonymous No.49992100]

>>49988761
To play it safe you could go for more options like RAIL and SCRT in addition to Rose. Both have long term potentials and chances for profits during the next bull run.

[Anonymous No.49992305]

>>49974757
Well I guess I better sell all my link right now and kill myself cause some guy on the internet said I put too little money into his ponzi scheme.

[Anonymous No.49992676]

>>49987396
i have most of my juno in usdc pool

[Anonymous No.49992692]

>>49990770
better play than most

[Anonymous No.49992722]

>>49992692
>>49992676
>>49992305
>>49992100
>>49992069
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An easy $100 per day

[Anonymous No.49993030]

>>49991932
I share same sentiments and I already copped some myself, lowcaps are cheap enough to cop some stacks or top up the bags.
>VRA
>ZIL
>GME
>TXA
>SOV
are my picks, got anymore ideas?

[Anonymous No.49993071]

[Anonymous No.49993080]

[Anonymous No.49993116]

Guys should we buy crypto right now or should we wait for it to get lower ?

[Anonymous No.49993185]

>>49993116
Buy 50% of what you wanted to buy now, 25% in a week, and the remaining 25% in 2 weeks. Then just forget it and DCA in later. Whatever you do just stop being a little bitch.

[Anonymous No.49993216]

>>49991487
How many P2Es are actually giving real money out there,err I dont think much so yea i'll rather stick to buying or hodling.

[Anonymous No.49993246]

>>49992015
DCA is dca isnt it?

[Anonymous No.49993248]

Times have been very rough but the core fundamentals and ideology stayed the same, and that is the only thing that matters, I'm doing fine.

[Anonymous No.49993269]

>>49993080
jelly of that DOT stack, got 80, was thinking of accumulating to 500 but dunno if i should just put it into ETH/ROSE

[Anonymous No.49993288]

>>49993080
>80% ETH
Based.

I've tried out other L1s, but ETH is where my heart lies.

[Anonymous No.49993649]

>>49993288
The worry about ETH is it being classed as a security along with most other L1s

[Anonymous No.49994160]

>>49991116
Let me guess, the tacen hybridDex right? I dont think it will end up like any cex, its a combination of dex and dex features as I read, no kyc, full privacy and a decentralized settlement layer. I am looking forward to it.

[Anonymous No.49994197]

>>49993116
Try to do a swing trade and it's getting effective or explore on new launch projects with fundamentals like kolnet, bricktrade or nunu.

[Anonymous No.49994298]

>>49994197
Nah im pooor to buy all thse

[Anonymous No.49994308]

>>49993269
Just sleep

[Anonymous No.49994328]

>>49972456

[Anonymous No.49994329]

R8/h8/defec8

[Anonymous No.49994418]

>>49994298
There a literally fucking cgeap macrocaps littered all over the space with good potential ZIL,LRC,TXA,IOTA all are solid picks. Not FA just dyor

[Anonymous No.49994429]

Can someone redpill me on CRO?
And what’s with all the LINK shilling in this thread? I swear this board is schizophrenic and changes its mind on link every day.

[Anonymous No.49994450]

>>49994329
No hate. Just love. WGMI

[Anonymous No.49994707]

>>49994298
You can also become a micro-KOL on Kolnet where you basically market the specific project in return of a pre-sale token. In this way, you can start building a good portfolio. Your effort matters at all.

[Anonymous No.49994718]

>>49994429
Crypto com?

[Anonymous No.49994774]

>>49972456
Near 8k in doge and 60 bucks in poly

[Anonymous No.49994891]

>>49994160
Decentralised? Haha funny
>>49994707
I dont like promotion

[Anonymous No.49994948]

>>49984000
Most likely in your wallet while you connect it to a Dex for transactions, that way you have full control of your assets.

[Anonymous No.49995042]

we all gonna make it frens

[Anonymous No.49995051]

>>49994948
Yeah. Who wouldn't want to have control over their assets in this time and age

[Anonymous No.49995185]

>>49994707
Like IDO?

[Anonymous No.49995199]

>>49994948
Tf is this?

[Anonymous No.49995318]

>>49983446
>CAKE
based, underrated token Imo

[Anonymous No.49995492]

>>49994891
If you don't like to become one, then I can't suggest anything as I think you're too lazy to start and complain when you have nothing. Try to explore and improve yourself anon.

[Anonymous No.49995502]

>>49995318
Nice for cake... I hold this

[Anonymous No.49995525]

>>49995185
> An improved IDO and ICO. They termed as an IMO where smaller influencers can benefit pre-sale tokens in exchange of a marketing service. Performances are being checked so everything will be fair and transparent.

[Anonymous No.49995596]

>>49995525

[Anonymous No.49995612]

>>49993288
Just eth?

[Anonymous No.49995747]

>>49995612
That's where his heart lies lol

[Anonymous No.49995764]

[Anonymous No.49995876]

>>49995764

[Anonymous No.49995931]

>>49991841
Web 3 space is growing and some protocols are facilitating an easy transition from web 2 to web 3 identities

[Anonymous No.49995982]

>>49991932
yes fag, that's why I'm holding a few of them
>ENJ
>PXP
>ORE

[Anonymous No.49996386]

Discerning trannies hold FTM & ALBT.

[Anonymous No.49996407]

SCRT
>scrotum
You have balls shilling this here, Rajeet.

[Anonymous No.49996441]

>>49972988
he thinks hes safe

[Anonymous No.49996464]

>>49974166
Imagine owning something called dogbonk

[Anonymous No.49997542]

>>49995042
>thinly veiled shill
fake and gay

[Anonymous No.49998066]

>>49972593
I would rather get more SCRT as the network is open to builders and not stagnate.

[Anonymous No.49998078]

>>49972456
These are solid bags IMO. SCRT, OSMO, ATOM and JUNO are the Cosmos projects I love so much. You must be a based biztard to have these bluechips.

[Anonymous No.49998139]

>>49990944
That may be correct but not many alts will survive this bear too. Seeing a new ATH is highly unlikely but I'm happy holding onto my SCRT bag. Given that it powered the first-ever minted film, KillRoy was here. That's an innovation that's will trigger further engagement in the coming months.

[Anonymous No.49998213]

>>49998066
I love how they made the platform easy for developers to can build solutions that provide privacy without compromising usability.

[Anonymous No.49998215]

>>49998139
There should be other movies coming up and would not like to miss out since the first makes much sense.

[Anonymous No.49998751]

>>49994429
Link is being shilled everywhere on this board.

[Anonymous No.49998824]

>>49994891
What wrong with decentralization or DEXs, I thought this is the very essence of crypto.

[Anonymous No.49999185]

>>49997542
>just because someone got more than you will ever have, it is fake
kek, go back to cage

[Anonymous No.49999401]

>>49995051
Morons who do not have their wallets connected to privacy platforms that will have their wallet information hidden even when placed on etherscan or bscscan, do not have absolute control over their assets.

[Anonymous No.50001950]

>>49972456
That's some nice looking folio anon. Similar to mine. Minus JUNO and ATOM / Plus ALBT and RAMP

WAGMI

[Anonymous No.50001961]

Swap all but eth and btc into api3 and you are on the path of making it before eoty

[Anonymous No.50001976]

>>49982968
Definition of shit kek

[Anonymous No.50002234]

>>49983442
schizo retard, go back to XRP general

[Anonymous No.50002410]

I am fine

[Anonymous No.50002508]

>>49975364
Me neither, but I put in like $100 (was only about $1500 at the top), so meh. Staked it and forgot about it. Probably dead, but who knows?

[Anonymous No.50003469]

>>49974828
Why are you still holding PNK after Clement's 51% attack on the network? It's unironically over for Kleros

[Anonymous No.50003727]

>>50002410
No you are not. Give it some time lol

[Anonymous No.50005033]

>>49998078
im probbly going to dump the small bags

[Anonymous No.50005134]

worth picking up matic if it drops back down to 30-40 cents?

[Anonymous No.50005188]

>>49974365
price prediction on hbar?