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[Anonymous No.50022839]

Where do I short this graph?

[Anonymous No.50022858]

>>50022839
That's absurdly higher then I would have guessed. Americans are soulless as fuck.

[Anonymous No.50022866]

>>50022839
buy gold (precious metals are a jewish scheme)

[Anonymous No.50022899]

Retards. Polytheism is the way forward. Monotheism was the globalist evangelical doctrine and it failed, killing millions.
Local polytheism attached to nature is the original system, the peaceful system, and the best system.

[Anonymous No.50023043]

>>50022858
>Belief in God
>Souless
Wut?

[Anonymous No.50023084]

>>50022839
81%? Americans are unironically retarded. Imagine your brain didn't figure out that the imaginary friend is very unlikely to be real by the time your enter your teens

[Anonymous No.50023113]

>>50023084
explain your existance genius

[Anonymous No.50023117]

>>50022839
buy a shotgun

[Anonymous No.50023136]

>>50023113
I came into existence out of thin air in order to make retards like you seethe (:

[Anonymous No.50023135]

>>50023113
His parents.

[Anonymous No.50023154]

>>50023043
Atheists are devoid of everything, including a brain

[Anonymous No.50023233]

>>50023043
I'm saying Americans are materialistic and soulless, and as such the 81% being a "dip" is surprising to me. American culture is not Godly in any way.
Pretty simple.

[Anonymous No.50023416]

>>50023136
So no way to explain kek, embarrassing, like watching a fat toddler throw shit

[Anonymous No.50023441]

>>50023113
>IF GOD AINT REAL
>THEN HOW IS WE HERE????

[Anonymous No.50023457]

God is real we're just trying to figure out what it is

[Anonymous No.50023479]

>>50023441

Can you explain how we're here?

[Anonymous No.50023482]

[Anonymous No.50023839]

What society doesn’t realize is this about belief in God:
- 90% Begin to see cracks in society
- 80% real chaos starts (ie. civil war, rampant violence)
- 60% Invasion by another country as God removes protections
We are only a generation away (gen z) from the fall of America if you fuckers stop believing in God.

[Anonymous No.50023908]

>>50023839
Man I'm convinced there are actual dieties in our plane of existence and worshipping them grants you some kind of divine power, and the more followers they amass the more potent the dieties become and they compete with each other over followers. From experience, atheists are some of the most retarded people to ever exist in the way they think.

[Anonymous No.50023933]

>>50023479
Read a god damn fucking book you nincompoop. Darwin cracked that nut 163 years ago. If you’re too dumb to understand then that’s on you.

[Anonymous No.50024002]

>>50022839
not even the ancient greeks believed in their gods, so why do you, who actually believes there was a fucking arab going around healing people with his magic cum?

[Anonymous No.50024028]

>>50023908
you really just said that and then called atheists retarded

[Anonymous No.50024054]

>>50023908
Very much agreed. Lack of spirituality kills the individual, and overtime it kills the collective as well. It's all hubris.

[Anonymous No.50024069]

>>50023416
uh, he actually did explain his existence, you're the one talking about throwing poopies now
why don't you explain YOUR existence, then?

[Anonymous No.50024099]

>>50023933

No he didn't, he described natural selection here on Earth. Where did all this material come from retard?

[Anonymous No.50024172]

>>50024099
why shouldn't it be here?
>>50024054
>telling people you're going to paradise and they're gonna burn and get poked at with sticks forever isn't all hubris

[Anonymous No.50024208]

>>50022899
>polytheism attached to nature is the original system

>OO WE GOTTA SACRIFICE 250K PEOPLE A YEAR
>IT WILL MAKE THE RAIN GOD XIEMACHUUATCHUCA HAPPY

[Anonymous No.50024234]

>>50024172
>why shouldn't it be here?

That isn't an answer to my question. I didn't ask why I asked how.

[Anonymous No.50024259]

>>50023479
Can you?
>inb4 A wizard did it
>inb4inb4 THE Wizard™ did it

[Anonymous No.50024277]

>>50024099
So you are asking why anything exists at all, not why the stuff that exists looks the way it does?
A god explains nothing there. “Why does /anything/ exist at all?” includes any presumptive god.
But when it comes to *our* existence Darwin did explain it all.

[Anonymous No.50024302]

>>50024028
Uh yes. There is a reason why every single civ and wealthy group develops a system of worship throughout the eras and they all share common themes (sun/planets, angels/demons, lore, prophecies, etc).
Atheists are like the boring kid at the party lul.

[Anonymous No.50024309]

>>50022839
How the fuck is it that high? I would guess 40%, but I'm from Boston.

[Anonymous No.50024344]

>>50024259

No I can't, that's what I mean by looking for God. It doesn't have to be anything that exists or is described by a lot of books people read now, it's a big black unknown in our existence.

>>50024277

The first question is why does anything exist at all, you don't have to be against anti-evolution to be searching for a reason for material existence in the first place. Idk why you keep citing Darwin, it reeks of reddit popsci, his contribution to this question is very limited as our planet is small in the scope of it.

[Anonymous No.50024346]

>>50024302
Yeah, they did because they were fucking stupid, duh

[Anonymous No.50024396]

>>50024344
Good. Then we agree. God is undeniable. He is the last frontier on knowledge and it will always be. The same way, you can just deny its existence and just say "things happen" because you can't prove anything.

[Anonymous No.50024459]

>>50024396

That's why faith is still possible though, you could be right, in like a 0.0000001% chance of it being right way. You just can't accept anything that's already been falsified. I can see the benefits of being driven by faith, I'm personally agnostic but it doesn't satisfy me.

[Anonymous No.50024470]

>>50024346
Yes everyone is stupid but you.
Or maybe they all had some kind of insight to the world that youre missing. Ever think of that?

[Anonymous No.50024572]

>>50023908
You are correct. All religions are "real" in the sense that when you worship and sacrifice to a higher principle, it brings about physical effects in the world. However, I believe that if you do this to any god except the Christian God then you will eventually get screwed over.

[Anonymous No.50024673]

Holy fuck I knew it was bad but not that bad. Fucking christ cucks. But I think it also is telling that quite a few people profess to believe in God while exemplifying little to nothing of the traditional faiths.

[Anonymous No.50024700]

>>50024344
> The first question is why does anything exist at all
Yes, and Lao Tze closed the book on that one some 2,500 years ago when he concluded that the ten thousand things sprung from “the great mystery”, which is not the same as a god. He pointed out that the question has no knowable, logical answer. Any attempt to explain it will be wrong. Anyone who thinks they have the answer (especially if it’s “god”) is simply a low quality thinker.
So, to sum up the world for you: the existence of the world = great mystery. The reason things that exist look the way they do = Darwin. And if you want a deeper understanding of why stars look the way they do, beyond the natural forces, you could look into Universal Darwinism.

[Anonymous No.50024703]

>>50024572
>>50024470
>>50024459
>>50024344
>>50024277

mfw

[Anonymous No.50024736]

>>50024459
I don't believe in stuff because of benefit. If you want to believe in a creator of everything, a will behind an intricate plan to forge conscience from stardust and DNA, it's fine. But don't fall into >>50024470, people in the past were trying to give an explanation to nature through divinity, and that is just bullshit

[Anonymous No.50024784]

>>50022839
Chart looks bullish. Textbook bear trap. Retard atheists and I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCErs are going to be left holding the bag.

[Anonymous No.50024835]

>>50024700
>He pointed out that the question has no knowable, logical answer. Any attempt to explain it will be wrong. Anyone who thinks they have the answer (especially if it’s “god”) is simply a low quality thinker.

That is incorrect. You could actually be right. Just totally, whimsically, out of your ass right and somehow stumbling on an answer. You are once again just name dropping some "renowned" man of history in lieu of making your own argument, which is what you keep doing with Darwin. That's just about as arrogant and pigheaded as a Christian claiming it's his way or the highway.

And for real dude, if you think Darwin has done more to explain the world than some of the notable physicists of the past 400 years then you are personally doing a bad job with pop science. He was a naturalist on a nature hike who wrote a book, animal breeders, farmers, domesticators have known evolution exists since prehistory and all it really applies to is terrestrial living beings not our universe, much less solar system.

[Anonymous No.50024888]

>>50024736
>in the past
See this is where you are ignorant again. Diety worship is very much present in our times and its very obvious in rich circles everywhere if you open your eyes a little to all the clear symbolism from places like hollywood, large firms, media, etc.

[Anonymous No.50024940]

When you are young, you need God to make things less scary
You then realise death being oblivion just isn't that scary
When you are old, you need God to excuse all the evil you commit

Being atheist is just coming to terms with how bad you are and excepting the responsibility to get better. If you believe in God, you may as well believe that "demonic possession" is a viable legal defense for a a pedophile child murderer. That possibilty would need to be ruled out in federal court everytime it is used.

[Anonymous No.50024974]

>>50024888
So you argument is to compare schizo symbolism in movies with academia. Bravo

[Anonymous No.50024988]

>>50023113
LOL holy fucking shit. Even if he can't that does not prove your retarded story makes any sense. It is ok not to know something you pathetic faggot.

[Anonymous No.50024994]

>>50024940

If you are an atheist, you have no need for morals at all, outside of practicality. At that point why would you care that pedophile child murderers exist? Lol, both of their existences were nothing and their deaths are just a return to oblivion.

[Anonymous No.50025046]

>>50000000

[Anonymous No.50025047]

>>50023113
read theory of evolution, retard

[Anonymous No.50025062]

>>50024994
It's actually the opposite. Morality is incompatible with theism.

[Anonymous No.50025069]

>>50022839
Now that abortion is illegal believe in God will go back up. When you have kids you need God so you can make it though the day.

[Anonymous No.50025072]

>>50024940
dips menorah

[Anonymous No.50025103]

>>50023908
I believe Christianity actually states that every deity ever created is actually real. It just says that it falls under devil worship if you follow them since the devil is the true ruler of the Earth and these gods only have power through the imagination of those who follow them.

[Anonymous No.50025108]

>>50022839
Seems high. Gallup polling landlines and bingo halls.

[Anonymous No.50025168]

>>50024994
That's why we have the moral high ground, you phony God-cocksucker. We believe that existence is good and worth living without needing to attribute it to the doings of magic man, thus we know others might also enjoy the wonders and joy of being conscious and alive, thus we believe in good and leaving a lasting impact on the world, thus we act accordingly, even if we know that we will all fucking die and be forgotten. Even if the whole universe ends up in heat death, the curtain falls and that's it, it was worth living. Good stories have an ending anyways so who fucking cares there is no God or afterlife. Life is good, enjoy it, be good to others just because. God is not in that equation

[Anonymous No.50025204]

>>50023113
>"GOD EXISTS"
>No he doesn't
>"YES GOD EXISTS, PROVE HE DOESN'T EXIST IF HE DOESN'T!!!!"
Godfags are legitimately retarded

[Anonymous No.50025262]

>>50024974
Wut? I'm not comparing those things at all. Just noting that systems of worship, dieties, occultism, are common behaviors and its silly to just dismiss them as meaningless especially when they always stem from higher circles.
Like I said, atheism is boring. Not only is the concept itself boring, the people themselves are dull as fuck. Often have no drive for life or anything remotelt entertaining.

[Anonymous No.50025355]

>>50025262
If you happen to know every scientist in the world, congratulations. They seem interesting to me. If you are looking for party animals, then I agree.

Higher circles rely more and more on science btw

[Anonymous No.50025477]

>>50022899
Pajeet, I'm not praying to your flying monkey Kys.

[Anonymous No.50025484]

>>50025355
Modern science itself is a religon, stemming from big money interests, so congrats on again proving your ignorance. Even disregarding the fact that money and power can both change the direction of "science", you realize that knowledge isn't perfect at a given moment and is always a work in progress?

[Anonymous No.50025495]

>>50024994
Practicality is an effective moral system. Not utilitarianism in the sense if achieving a highest good, but utilitarianism in the sense that moralityvus relative to social and material function.

You can get around platonic/idealism based morality this way. So a pedophile can just divehatever he wants without moral rules right? But in a functionalist moral system, allowing oedophiles to randomly fuck and terrorize young children in your population is going cause psychological damage to many children and families which fucks shit up. And most importantly, allowing pedophilia reinforces the idea that an individual can do whatever he or she wants to young vulnerable individuals. This is predatory. Allowing people to wander around your culture engaging in predatory behavior subverts your entire social order, the agreement whereby we behave ourselves and work together. It's a similar argument as to why killing people is wrong when it's willy nilly and not controlled by a state or higher order/culture process--it shits on the entire idea of peaceful coexistence. Which would make society impossible. Which would set us back to BEFORE monkey. Even chimps follow social rules, because they developed neurologues and neurotransmitters which support these rules over millions of years of selection.

[Anonymous No.50025539]

>>50023416
I literally explained to you how and why I came into existence. It's more or less the same way the bible explains how you came into existence. I don't recall you disproving this. So just believe it. Like you just believe in god etc. Believing should be what you're best at, no?

[Anonymous No.50025560]

>>50023043
81% of Americans say they believe in god yet about 5% actually act as if he exists

[Anonymous No.50025587]

>>50022899
>Local polytheism attached to nature is the original system
Local theism

Polytheism is the 'tolerant' city folk shit, where a bunch of local theists agree that everyone else's local deities are totally heckin' valid so we can just sort of not care and instead be self absorbed purposeless gods of ourselves.

Imagine giving any credit to anyone else's false god

[Anonymous No.50025613]

God is just an imaginary friend that lives inside the heads of the faithful.

[Anonymous No.50025629]

>>50023113
Wikipedia has a very comprehensive and detailed explanation of how life began in deep sea geothermal vents and evolved into more complex aquatic organisms over millions of years
>Inb4 hurrr Wikipedia is all lies
Ok schizo

[Anonymous No.50025687]

>>50024835
> Just totally, whimsically, out of your ass right and somehow stumbling on an answer
You’d think so, just that it would be unknowable if you are right, but Lao Tze very early realized that the nature of an unfalsifiable hypothesis is to be meaningless.
You should look up algorithmic Darwinism. It is an abstract mechanism that decreases entropy locally. Together with the second law of Thermodynamics, which explains why entropy will always increase globally, you have a full description of the mechanisms that shape the universe.
Newton, like so many physicists, was a hack who could only reformulate his observations using math, but was never able to actually explain a single thing.

[Anonymous No.50025696]

>>50022839
>belief in God scales with how well the economy is doing
Americans really are slaves.

[Anonymous No.50025704]

>>50025484
Yes, the search of knowledge and improvement of techniques through scientific method is a religion stemming from big money interests, has been for 400 years, it's the only reason science exists. Thanks for opening my eyes on how fucking stupid I am. It is true that power and money can change physic laws because every theory is just a theory until it is finally proven. Bravo again. I'll go pray now

[Anonymous No.50025737]

>redditors are still here
Long way to the bottom I guess.

[Anonymous No.50025762]

>>50025704
>>50025484
You guys having the same ID color upsets me.

[Anonymous No.50025817]

>>50022839
After the older generation is dead chirstcuckery will die also, the problem is that it gets replaced with the worst religion of all atheism (globohomo sect)

[Anonymous No.50025972]

>>50025817
>After the older generation is dead chirstcuckery will die also
They've been saying that since the beginning. See: Acts 5

It's just so strange it doesn't seem to die with its adherents.

[Anonymous No.50025990]

>>50025704
Ah yes, movements are never hijacked for social and monetary interests. Scientists in lab coats totes rule the world with their immense knowledge and its not cartels with political/financial interests. Thank you for your eight grade world knowledge.

[Anonymous No.50026074]

Why do I need god? Why can't I rely on my intelligence and my brain?
Why do I need a imaginary friend to have help me go through the day?

[Anonymous No.50026168]

>>50026074
You have limited processing power even if you're very smart.
You have limited knowledge especially due to your class.
Ingelligence is ultimately just one component of the human experience.
Also be sure you're actually intelligent - are there any objective metrics that can help support this?

[Anonymous No.50026405]

>>50026074
What can you ever do that will ultimately change your fate

"Make it"? you're going to the exact same place regardless of your portfolio.

Unless....

[Anonymous No.50026531]

>>50024208
why are (You) trying to make fun of him when (You) worship those who did 9/11 sacrifice to please their volcano dude?

[Anonymous No.50026574]

>>50022839
if you want to long religion you become a good man, go to church regularly, get a wife and have many children. If you want to short it you be a total degenerate because "le nothing matters". pro tip: if you actually thought that you would be libing your life significantly differently nerd.

[Anonymous No.50026629]

>>50026531
>look at this graffiti made by a mocker, posted by a mocker

I can write aye theests r ghey on a bathroom wall. It must be true that faithless are homos.

[Anonymous No.50026708]

Based

Evangelic Christians should be rounded up and shot.

[Anonymous No.50026723]

>>50022899

Wrong fag, atheism is the future.

[Anonymous No.50026760]

>>50023043
Yeah. Christians are NPCs

[Anonymous No.50026767]

>>50023839

>Evangelical retards actually believe this stupid shit

[Anonymous No.50026796]

>>50026723
Atheism can't really support life as its an incredibly anti-fertility belief system. Its therefore most definitely not the future and will be replaced by more potent aggressive systems, probably Islam, as Christianity has been neutered.

[Anonymous No.50026945]

>>50026796
come on goyim! Funko pops and xbox live and reddit the rest of your life! you'll never even have to get off the couch! The old man was a man of God family and community. The new man is a man of chill out and have fun!

[Anonymous No.50026967]

>>50022839
the bible says this would happen

[Anonymous No.50027031]

>>50026796

>>Anti-fertility

Imagine believing this insane shit in 2022.
HELLO SIRS it's 2022 would you like to hear about the lord creator god Vishnu and Rashthatiamalsomatiptittomaonamamamamamam the fertility god that will bring great blessings up you?

Pajeet, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.50027053]

>>50026074

>the midwits dilemma

[Anonymous No.50027055]

>>50026945

I work in a factory fag. Try again, sorry.
We still live under capitalism. I can't wait until fags like you die off finally. So annoying. Your ancient puritanical beliefs are on the way out.

[Anonymous No.50027129]

>>50026168
>Also be sure you're actually intelligent - are there any objective metrics that can help support this?
I said im smart therefore im smart
I'm not going to take an iq test
Or any of that nonsense
If I'm happy with my life = smart
>>50026405
>What can you ever do that will ultimately change your fate
idk duh i just make money and eat hotpockets. I dont' really need god to do anything i just do whatever u feel dog
>>50027053
>>the midwits dilemma
Yes.

[Anonymous No.50028001]

>>50027129
>idk duh i just make money and eat hotpockets. I dont' really need god to do anything i just do whatever u feel dog
Slave to emotions. Deadman walking. True NPC tier diaper-baby.

[Anonymous No.50028232]

>>50025560
They'll fear him when the time comes
Unironically I believe 'a' god does exist just not the same one I imagine most people think of when asked that question

[Anonymous No.50029011]

>>50023043
soulless as in npc. Who but an npc would believe in g*d

[Anonymous No.50029335]

>>50028232
This is why these polls are often inaccurate. "God" is often a little more telling than r u an "atheist", but a large proportion of "Nones" in which this poll sort of covers still believe in a bunch of empirically unverifiable superstitions.
Wicca, astrology, "yoga". Plenty of off brand eastern mysticism enthusiasts that no doubt are anything but eastern mysticists, yet DO believe in SOMETHING beyond what the base material senses can observe.
Purpose/telos. Rare is the person that legitimately believes all of this is without reason and for no reason. Rarer still is someone who conducts themselves accordingly. Might be quick to recoil at the suggestion they are conducting themselves contrary to that telos, but they'll be quick to insist this/that isn't right when their sense of purpose is conflicted.

[Anonymous No.50029959]

81%
ok america is lost its over. 8 out 10 of you believe in god AND IT SHOWS