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Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptos. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier of entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward will gradually approach 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://youtu.be/wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Binance
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Kucoin
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
My Monero
Exodus
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

>> No.50309812

buy signal right here
i'm gonna buy some
yup, thats the buy signal
you should buy some too

>> No.50309818
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PREVIOUS THREAD: >>50248315

>> No.50309840
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STOP MINING IN MINEXMR
>START MINING IN P2POOL
STOP MINING IN MINEXMR
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shutdown/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't; It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. When P2Pool reaches 51% of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.


YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET!

If you have a PC or laptop:

1. Download Monero GUI
https://i.imgur.com/ZGefPef.png

2. Pick 'Advanced' mode
https://i.imgur.com/4c0uSE4.png

3. Set up your wallet
https://i.imgur.com/4lMKh00.png

4. Keep the default Daemon settings "Start a node automatically in the background"
https://i.imgur.com/maACmmT.png

5. Once sync'd, go to Advanced->Mining and pick 'P2Pool'. If you have a laptop or low-end PC (~50 kH/s) pick "Mini" pool, else pick "Main"
https://i.imgur.com/E60JeMG.png

P2Pool-compatible remote nodes if you do not have your own local copy of the blockchain:

>p2pmd.xmrvsbeast.com - (Western Europe) (rpc-port 18081, zmq-port 18083)
>myxmr.net - (Northern Europe) (rpc-port 18081, zmq-port 18083)

OTHERWISE SWITCH TO A SMALLER POOL, IT TAKES YOU 30 SECONDS AND YOU CAN JUST SOURCE A DIFFERENT CONFIG FILE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FUCK UP YOUR EXISTING ONE.

Many inexperienced miners think that big pools give better profits which is not the case. Your profits in the long run depend only on your hashrate, not on the pool's hashrate.

https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

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*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

>> No.50309901
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Never forget what this is ultimately all about.


>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with XMR!
https://monerica.com/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://monero.com/marketplace
https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/
https://acceptedhere.io/catalog/currency/xmr/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

>> No.50309921
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>The irrational exuberance of cryptocurrency investors

Irrational exuberance is characterized as a hype-fueled mania that causes investors to massively overestimate an asset's real-world value. In this delusional state, investors tend to become so smitten with expectations of greater profits that they disregard the assets’ potentially weak fundamentals and drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.

This then leads to them recklessly and repeatedly buying into whatever asset is currently rising in the charts, thereby triggering and/or sustaining an asset bubble. This bubble is kept inflated solely by the mass delusion that the market price is justified and will only keep going up in future, effectively becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Note that bubbles can last for years, especially in an age of easy investor on-boarding. However, when history inevitably repeats and the bubble bursts that optimism invariably turns into panic as the asset crashes back down to its real-world value.

In finance, the "greater fool theory" suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets—items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value—if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.

In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, hoping that he can sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit. This only works as long as there are enough new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value, which in some cases could be zero.

This effect is often further exacerbated by herd mentality, whereby people hear stories of others who bought in early and made big profits, causing those who did not buy to feel a fear of missing out.

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>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

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>>50309782
when the institutions start front-running each other like they did with bitcoin in 2016-2017, will you be ready?

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>>50310105
>will you be ready?
sadly, i'm too poor and can only afford to dca [REDACTED] amount of xmr a month. i don't think i will reach [REDACTED] by the time people realize how nice monero is.

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Thank you anons for posting all the marketplace links in every /XMR/. I've been using them for buying things.

>> No.50311201
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BEEP BEEP
hop in anon!

>> No.50311298

>>50276151

>> No.50312055

Is this cycle finally going to kill eth and it's shitcoin casino memes?
Not sure who I hate more, Vitali apologists or btc maxis

>> No.50312057
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Tapping in
>>50309782
cute new Monero-chan OC

>> No.50312066
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50312066

Buy Zcash if you actually want to make it, XMR is going nowhere.

>> No.50312216

If I use a KYC exchange to buy, what stops the state from demanding me to disclose what's in that wallet or where it's gone to? Even if I refuse to give up my password or seedphrase, wouldn't they just cuff me for obstruction?

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>>50312066
>Buy Zcash
>please

>> No.50312361

>>50312055
No. GameStop is dragging millions of retards into NFT land with their market launch.

>> No.50312415

>>50312216
"I spent it all on weed"

>> No.50312465
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>>50312066
haha - no

>> No.50312499

>>50312066
What does Zcash has over LTC ?

>> No.50312976

>>50312465
Involved criminals:
>Jews
>Banks
>Goberment
>Military / Darpa

Z-Cash glows so bright, it almost destroys my display pixels.

>> No.50313508
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50313508

Reporting in

tor irc- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/tzm4s
Aliases- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/bjbx3
Extras- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/daxte
Nodes- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/ke2k8
Mining- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/c7na4

>> No.50313516

Thread isn't libertarian enough. Weird authoritarian/alt-right vibes and dominated by hatred instead of ingenuity.

>> No.50313525

>>50313516
lot of pol tourists

>> No.50313680

>>50309960
>Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K.
And now they're under $19.5k lol.

>>50313516
What do you think is going to happen if the federal government can't tax economic activity anymore? Who do you think actually does the work in society and provides the government tax revenue, and who do you think leeches?

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50313888

guys make a copy of your wallet file.

My cocksucking monero gui corrupted the wallet, i spent 2 hours like a retard trying to enter it because i tough i was having a serious memory loss since the piece of shit was not accepting the password.

Turns out the client corrupted the wallet file, luckily i had a copy, but i never had this happen with other crypto.

That said it's probably due to using an older client since i don't want to update but still be careful.

>> No.50314068

>>50313888
>Turns out the client corrupted the wallet file, luckily i had a copy, but i never had this happen with other crypto.
Stop running Windows.

>> No.50314135

>>50313680
>Who do you think actually does the work in society
Libertarians that actually engage in entrepreneurship
>and who do you think leeches?
Terminally online alt-right authoritarians posting from their NEET basements larping as christians and race warriors while never actually contributing to society.

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>>50314068
Too lazy to even move from windows 7

>> No.50314310
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>>50313516
Fuck off, tranny, XMR is for everyone. Who the fuck uses the cringe term ´alt-right´? Monero Uner Alles. Hail Monerochan.

>> No.50314328
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>>50314310
*Monero Uber Alles.

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>>50314135
Nice projection, cunt. kys.

>> No.50314374

>>50309782
Where's my under 100usd monero? I was promised prices below 100$. I demand to buy Monero at less 100usd per coin.

>> No.50314401

>>50314374
CPI releases tomorrow
If its higher than last month we go straight down to 75$.

>> No.50314409

>>50314374
Anything below 10k is free money.
>inb4 moonfag.

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>>50314409
anon, you made me do this to you...

>> No.50315010
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>>50312465

Israel has the best cryptographers, retard.

>> No.50315177

>>50315010
They actually don't. Israeli tech companies are overrated. I am forced to work with a few of them as vendors for my employer and they're scatterbrained retards. They lack the Anglo/Germanic engineering discipline you see in the US, Canada, Australia, and Europe, so all their software is half assed and squirrely. The best cryptographers I know of work in the US.

>> No.50315234

Heil Monerochan

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>>50315010
maybe true, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet and https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18465875-countdown-to-zero-day

>>50313508
based

MINE ON P2POOL (MINI)
>MINE ON P2POOL (MINI)
MINE ON P2POOL (MINI)
>MINE ON P2POOL (MINI)

>> No.50315897
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>be me
>gf starts talking about crypto
>expect to hear the same normie meme coins
>turns out she's all in on XMR
>god_i_love_this_woman.jpeg
>admit I mostly hold XMR
>asks how much I have
>"undisclosed amount"
>she laughs and straight up admits how much she has to me
>she's holding over 10x as much as I am
>wtf
>"y-you really shouldn't tell anyone how much you've got lol"
>tfw my GF has more XMR than me
>tfw been mining for years

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>>50309782
Is anyone here good at ansi art? I've been meaning to set up a Monero-themed BBS for forever, but am shit with Moebius ( https://blocktronics.github.io/moebius/ ) and at art in general. But would be happy to commission someone.

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>>50311090
Don't worry anon, Monero will crash once Bitcoin goes to zero. We will have the opportunity of the century.

>>50315177
Based.

>> No.50316184

>>50315897
woah...
I like ur gf

>> No.50316395

>>50315948
I'm not, but I know a couple of old BBSers, and I'll see if they're interested.

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>>50315897
Damn son, your girlfriend is suprabased, you found the one anon. Now you have to get more Monero than her to establish dominance lol.

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>>50315897
Would you say picrel is you right now?
captcha was XXDAXX, what did 4chan mean by this?

>> No.50316564

>>50316395
Thank you, that would be wonderful. I asked Luciano Ayres of blocktronics, but he said $1200 for 3 80x25 screens, which is kind of high.

>> No.50316625

>>50316469
>Now you have to get more Monero than her to establish dominance lol.
Yeah that's the hard part, out of the both of us she's definitely better off, upside is she's shockingly generous lmao.

>>50316541
Essentially yes, though until recently I just stuck with her because she was a genuinely great girl to be with and had no clue she was actually as stacked financially as she is.

>> No.50316741

>>50315897
This is the same feeling as finding out your girlfriend has a bigger dick than you.

>> No.50316832

>>50316625
>I just stuck with her because she was a genuinely great girl to be with and had no clue she was actually as stacked financially as she is.
This is one of the reasons as to why Monero's ability to hide wealth is so unique. You are with her due to her personality, morals & values physical appearance, etc and not just for monetary gain. It's a great thing that you discovered that AFTER you are with her, as that information could've impared that connection. Good on you anon.

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>> No.50318148

>>50315998
do i wait to buy then

>> No.50318643
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>used internet since windows 2000 as kid around 2002 or so
>2016 newfag to 4chan
>look around chans and rest of internet all these years later and realize internet is just old crap looking FED occupied sites like 4chan or botnet sites with better looking UI
>too late for BTC early for XMR
>realize internet hasnt seen much good application other then XMR

blogposting aside any other later 20s and up here think we've been in a dotcom bubble for multiple decades and monero is the hedge? Or are we just aging pessimists? Really starting to think the networking of computers wasn't meant to be capitalized so much and boring stuff like monero is really the only good thing we got out of decades of computer networking advancements.

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>>50318643
Dotcoms and real estate but yeah, pretty much. They never let all the leverage out after the 90s bubble because it would show how much it cost us economically to win the Cold War. If you haven't read Peter Zeihan's books you should. I like XMR as a hedge for that world but also because it actually works really well as a currency. Full final settlement in 20 minutes is magical if you know how much bullshit is related to ACH or wire transfers or the stock market or SWIFT. There's no drama around "Layer 2" or "tainted coins" or "gas fees" either, it's just... money. You send it, you receive it, you move on.

>> No.50319080

>>50318643
I think we've already pretty much fully explored the use of the internet. In the future, I think we'll just go back to doing things (mostly) IRL. Web2.0 was mostly a bust, so Web3.0 certainty will be too. Blockchain tech is generally quite shit and only useful with paired up with other key tools. Monero is the only software I have ever seen to utilize a blockchain correctly.
>>50318763
>it's just... money. You send it, you receive it, you move on.
Damn straight.

>> No.50319263

Where buy whey with monero

>> No.50319328

>>50319263
Buy a gift card for whatever grocery store you frequent from CoinCards with XMR.

>> No.50319645

>>50313525
These faggots ain't pol. The one in the last thread was talking out of his ass. They're just here to spin the conversation with off-topic bullshit, since trying to fud our currency does not work.

>> No.50319655

>>50319328
very brainy, me like you.

>> No.50320156
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Never forget what happens when you put the state in charge of money.

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This paper is great for dispelling inflation fud, the math is surprisingly elegant. Should definitely be part of an infodump somewhere if it isn't already.
archive (dot) ph/2022.07.09-182716/https://petertodd.org/2022/surprisingly-tail-emission-is-not-inflationary

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Also, why is /XMR/ so comfy?

>> No.50320536

>>50320440
Archive has several other TLDs that work, it's like TPB that way.

https://archive.is/2022.07.09-182716/https://petertodd.org/2022/surprisingly-tail-emission-is-not-inflationary
https://archive.md/2022.07.09-182716/https://petertodd.org/2022/surprisingly-tail-emission-is-not-inflationary
https://archive.today/2022.07.09-182716/https://petertodd.org/2022/surprisingly-tail-emission-is-not-inflationary

>> No.50320897

>>50315897
Does she work in IT?
I've never heard anyone talk about crypto let alone XMR apart from few IT nerds.
Don't know how regular person is suppose to understand XMR is the real deal and won't be "hacked" or some other bs, shills everywhere use to FUD.

>> No.50321225

>>50313516
thread theme, just cause you said that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebzlr-SvZ_Q

also, when the people your talking about get kicked out of everything, they inevitably fester in your neck of the woods, because that is the only place they have freedom

>> No.50321327

Any Canadians here? Where are you buying?

I’m annoyed Newton delisted this shit.

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>>50321327
You can get Bitcoin from wherever and then swap on Tradeogre.

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>>50321225
I want to fund Monerochan fashwave propaganda. Godspeed to all reactionary Monero-Chads. Fuck kikes and fuck the Antichrist.

>> No.50321835

>>50309782
tes

>> No.50322167

>>50314310
Everyone wants privacy in a way. In the same way, Secret Network and its smart contract are open for everyone to use.

>> No.50322309

>>50322167
Fuck Proof of Stake. Secret Network is too centralized, Smart Contracts are a meme. They are only usefull for stablecoins and collarerized borrowing. My Smart Contract horse is DERO (I hope they bring back tail emission). The Secret Network website is pozzed, faggy and full of globohomo artstyle BS.

>> No.50322470

>>50322309
Did you just say Secret Network is too centralized? Kekk.

Now tell me a more decentralized and privacy-focused network or project in the space anon.

>> No.50322474
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50322474

>>50322167
Fuck off with your PoS (Piece of Shit) "privacy" smart contract scamchain, you need to go back to the void.

>> No.50322525

>>50322470
DYOR, faggot. This is not /spoonfeeding general/. Read this >>50322474.

>> No.50322561

I remember the first time the SCRT pajeet came and everyone btfod him.
Now there are places where it's getting more and more accepted which is worrisome

>> No.50322580

>>50322561
kek

>> No.50322607

>>50322474
Are you hating on privacy-focused projects just like Monero? Do you want to shit on Monero?

>> No.50322625

>>50322561
That's because they are just like us. Have we got any difference? They are much accepted like we are accepted anywhere.

>> No.50322686

>>50322607
SCRT is fully transparent. The only project like Monero is Monero, you dumbcunt pajeet. Monero Uber Alles.

>> No.50322752
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50322752

>>50322607
I don't accept your false equivalence, not all privacy projects are equal.
Monero just works.
"scrt" does not.
tell me one place where "scrt" is useful like monero is?
I'll be waiting for you to BTFO me.

>> No.50322753
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50322753

>>50322625
There is no ´us´, you dumb fucking faggot. Just because we use the same money doesn´t mean there is an ´us´. It´s me and Monero-chan against the world.

>> No.50322764

>>50322607
Privacy can't be underrated, only some bunch of faggots will do that, although monereo isn't the only privacy token, they are others with more improved features

>> No.50322781

>>50322764
> they are others with more improved features
like what??? Fucking (((zcash)))???

>> No.50322790

>>50322764
with your bootleg pageet fucking english.

>> No.50322840

>>50322561
I remember someone pointed out that you had to send an email to swap your sXMR. I guess it's cause it's so secret?

>> No.50322868
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50322868

native XMR on Thorchain when?

>> No.50322900
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50322900

>>50322781
Not at all, I've used zcash, railgun, but Secret is a better
>>50322790
Fuck you pageet, how much is the bank paying you with your fucking English?

>> No.50322924
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50322924

>>50322167
>>50322470
>>50322607
>>50322625
>>50322764
>>50322900
I feel like these are all the same pajeet who is changing his ID to seem like there are more people who like "scrt" than just the one shill who wants us to hold their bags, I mean have you noticed that after these people post, they never reply to their own criticisms? It's always someone else with a new ID.

>> No.50322951

>>50322924
Face the truth anon, you know scrt is not your mate when it comes to privacy, don't try to digress

>> No.50322969

>>50322900
kek, I wrote ´pageet´ instead of ´pajeet´ while calling him out on his shit english and he fell for it. You got exposed, you dumbcunt pajeet peace of cow shit, fuck off.

>> No.50322997
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50322997

>>50322951
You're right, anon.
I only have one mate when it comes to privacy, and I think you already know her name.

>> No.50322998
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50322998

>>50322924
Did you witness the first NFT film by Kevin Smith that was launch on secret blockchain yesterday? July 12th?
I know you can't stand that

>> No.50323004

>>50322998
post ur hands

>> No.50323005

>>50322997
Scrt of curse

>> No.50323050

>>50322924
It's the shill phenomenon. When they want you to buy their bags, you'll see maximum 2 posts per ID, and multiple 1 ID posts. Even if they answer you its a single ID and not a continuum. Thank God we have that feature, makes it easy to discern who's the sellout or not.

>> No.50323085
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50323085

>>50323050
yeah, it seems that way, sort of reminds me of something tho...

>> No.50323114

>>50323005
>>50322998
>>50322900
>>50322764
>>50322625
>>50322607
>>50322167
Drown in cow shit while getting raped by a bull, you dumbcunt pajeet peace of shit. I eat your gods. Your civilization is a genetic dead end. Your women are dogshit ugly and smelly.

>> No.50323128

>>50315897
Sorry anon but your GF is a trans.

>> No.50323146

>>50323085
At times when a pot calls a kettle black, I do wonder who is the real black, the pot or kettle?

>> No.50323173

>>50323146
You are the pot-smoking cattle-fucking nigger.

>> No.50323184

>>50323114
You will continue to die in confusion and frustration when you refuse to accept the truth, you he goat with no focus and direction
Why can't you accept the truth?

>> No.50323191
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50323191

>>50323085
That's pretty much it anon. The US probably has a group akin to that one too.

>> No.50323192

>>50323184
why can't you accept that I'm not buying your worthless smelly pajeet bags?

>> No.50323195

>>50323173
While you are the kettle
Hahahahahahahahaha
Wonders shall never end with some foolish goats parading in human form

>> No.50323235

>>50321613
Anywhere good that doesnt require sign in and rape my ass on fees?

>> No.50323257

>>50323195
>>50323184
stfu, subhuman, pajeet nigger.

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>>50323195
Don´t flatter me, nigger. I am not the goat, Monerochan is the GOAT (greatest of all time).

>> No.50323279
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>> No.50323289

Privacy chads, what are your favorite privacy altcoins? I need some good ones for the next privacy run as they will probably outperform XMR.

>> No.50323332

>>50323289
stop pretending to be one of us. we all know you will be the one who will reply `sEEkRReT NeTwoRk´ to this post. so fuck off.

>> No.50323384

>>50313516
My hatred and racism is intellectually designed by logic and reason.

>> No.50323417

>>50315897
what's his name?

>> No.50323426
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50323426

>>50323384
Monero has the best and most uncucked community.

>> No.50323444

>>50323417
Stacking my way towards high 3-figs of XMR during this bear market, hoping for another BTC flash crash to signal the bottom, too bad i didnt snap up enough sub 3 digit XMR earlier last month.

>> No.50323510

Not pretending to be one of you, I just think that privacy coins are going to gain a lot of attention with CBDC and that’s why I’m looking for good privacy coins besides XMR.

>> No.50323582

>>50323510
DERO, if they bring back Tail Emission. No financial advice, tho.

>> No.50323588

>>50322309
Of course, and the first project Enigma got hyperfucked by regulators. So they build in a backdoor to please them in the new project. SCRT is trash.

>> No.50323612

>>50323332
Why are you getting angry unnecessarily anon?
This is a social media for crying out loud, they should be freedom of speech
I wonder why you are getting bittered bc someone posted your project's competitor

>> No.50323636

>>50323588
Checked. Sauce on the back door. Wouldn´t be surprised tho, SCRT is pozzed and cucked.

>> No.50323657
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50323657

>>50323332
In this space, you can't do without competition
Where there is a healthy competition, it destroys monopoly

XMR & SCRT are good project with their respective uniqueness, comparing the 2 will make them and other existing privacy token to be more focus and innovative.

You shouldn't be behaving as a motherfucker

>> No.50323669

>>50323657
Your ID didn't change?

>> No.50323733

>>50323657
Fracturing the userbase will only result in a smaller anonymity set for everyone.
Discussing the technical tradeoffs is good and if any other coins have any tangible advantages, reimplementing them is good. But that doesn't have anything to do with buying other privacy tokens.

>> No.50323760

>>50323657
Use your shitty smelly bags to buy rope and soap.

>> No.50323776

>>50323612
XMR is a currency. SCRT is a smart (retard) contract crypto, therefore it is competing with other sc cryptos and getting btfo´d by them.

>> No.50323819
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>> No.50323897

>>50323235
If it's non-KYC why would sign-in be a problem?

>> No.50323937

>>50323897
I don’t like making accounts.
Don’t have to for Mullvad so why should I here?

>> No.50323964

>>50323937
Because the exchange hosts a wallet for you (as standard for a CEX, if it didn't it would be a DEX with all that that implies). Therefore there has to be some method to authenticate access to your wallet(s).

It takes like ten seconds to register. You do have something like keepass, right?

>> No.50324044

>>50323669
Sorry, my IP is not static, it changes from time to time, it's not intentionally

>> No.50324090

>>50323760
Thank you
>>50323733
Nobody asked you to buy anything you fool, we only had a normal conversation, and you flare into violence, seems you have a cockroach in your cupboard
Now I see that you are getting mad because scrt is a smart contract with a difference, but c'mon, your stupid self suppose to know that ETH is similar to scrt, both are smart contract

>> No.50324132

>>50324044
we know, Ramesh. Now stop shitting up the thread with your curry shitcoin.

>> No.50324157

>>50324090
cow piss drinker calling people fools. kek. you can´t make this shit up.

>> No.50324221

>>50324132
Why are you all afraid of me?
You can't withstand me and scrt lovers
>>50324157
Hahahahah

I’m not for war, but only to have fun, but you kept fighting back to back

>> No.50324266

>>50324221
Shouldn't you be courting Mona Lisa right now or something?

>> No.50324298

>>50324221
war??? your civilization can´t war for shit. You got btfo´d and gangraped by a private company (East India Company) and you got beaten up by fucking chinks last year, ffs. kek. Go harvest bull semen, you genetic dead end cuck peace of shit pajeet cunt.

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lol jeets

>> No.50324368

>>50324328
kek

>> No.50325051

So, anything besides XMR and SCRT I should look into??? I’d like to know some good smallcaps for the next run (privacy)

>> No.50325401
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50325401

>>50325051

Zcash. It is the obvious future of privacy coins, Monero is already obsolete.

>> No.50325447

>Ztrannies and pajeets going in hard
I think this is bullish for Monero bros

>> No.50325481

yeah guys monero SUCKS and you should SELL all of your monero

to ME

>> No.50325561
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50325561

>>50325401

Oh look, yet another retarded Z-nigger that is unable to comprehend how Monero actually works.

Here's your threadly reminder that the much-hyped Halo 2 launch predictably yielded nothing and that everybody here continues to not care about Zcash™.

Give my regards to your CEO lol

>> No.50326349

>>50313888
Mate, WRITE DOWN YOUR SEED PHRASE AND RESTORE HEIGHT!!! Monero isn't stored on your hard drive. Your seed phrase IS your money/wallet. If you have your seed phrase and restore height you can use your monero from any computer in the world. If you're in the desert and you need a camel airdropped in you can write wallet software with your seed in it on your 3ds. Write that shit down my man.

>> No.50326378

>>50313888
>>50314068
This happened to me too, using monero gui. On Both Linux and macOS.

It happens if you somehow close the wallet in a fucked up way and then takes an hour to sync or more. So now I always keep backup of my wallet.dat

>> No.50326436

>>50326349
yeah, this too.

monero future

>> No.50326510

>>50318763
What's the message of the image? "Fuck moonbois we're going to mars woooooo!"?

>> No.50326754

>>50324090
>Nobody asked you to buy anything you fool
Every thread or two there's a couple of posts going "Hmm guys so what do you think about other privacy coins... such as SCRT? Hmm? I myself do enjoy SCRT and think it's a good hedge!"
The fact that you don't utter the words "buy my bags" doesn't mean that it's not shilling.

>and you flare into violence
??????????????????

>> No.50326885

>>50322752
SCRT is more flexible and offers access control on NFT metadata. That's something Monero is still sleeping on.

>> No.50327038
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50327038

>>50322951
Have some respect for the king of privacy moron. Monero is the king and Secret is like a baby to Monero. It has some great features but both can't be compared.

>> No.50327166

>>50327038
When the king is old and weak, the baby grows and become the king
No one champions forever anon

>> No.50327208

>>50327166
consoom product and wait for next product

>> No.50327335

>>50327166
>new... GOOD!

>> No.50327466

>>50327166
I love their strategic partnerships. Private trading NFTs and front-run-resistant defi are just the two examples of use cases that I love about the project.

>> No.50327600
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50327600

It's been 45 posts since the last monerochan, I'm disappointed.

>> No.50327965

>>50323191
We do.

>> No.50328071

>>50323819
That'd be cool as a physical sewn mission patch.

>> No.50328480

>17% percent fiat inflation
And they say crypto is a scam.

>> No.50328633
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50328633

WHY THE FUCK does it take so long to download the blockchain??? The wallet downloaded the first 50% within an hour, then it took 9 hours to get to 96% and now I'm sitting here the next day and it seems like it will take another 8 hours for the last 4%?? Why does it get exponentially slower the closer you are to finishing it?

>> No.50328873

>>50328633
>it's only taken you two days

Wow hey you're making good time.

You're downloading like 130GB from a p2p network, this is just how it is. The drive you are saving it to might be a bottleneck as well but it seems like you're not using an HDD if it's been this fast so far.

>> No.50329439

>>50325401

>> No.50329562

>>50328633
There's two things happening: download, and verification. Because monero is monero, verifying the integrity of the blockchain requires costly cryptographic operations (unlike e.g. bitcoin, where it's a trivial task to just make sure transaction inputs map to a valid output).
You should have a second progress number somewhere in the output, which shows you the actual blockchain sync percentage. When I did it, I got to like 96-97% download within the first day just like you, but the sync was still actually only at ~40%. I suspect the daemon just pauses the download when it gets too far ahead of the verification, which is why you get most of the blockchain but not all of it, then it kind of idles around 97-98-99% while the verification catches up.

>>50328873
And you are a retard. Even if you didn't know this, it should be trivial to figure out that getting 50% within an hour and taking ~48 hours for the next 50% is not due to download speeds. "Downloading 130GB from a p2p network" is the easy part, as shown by the fact that anon explicitly downloaded 65GB from a p2p network in an hour.

Not to mention that p2p networks are often great ways to download things - a popular torrent may still be one of the better ways to saturate your download speed, if your connection is faster than the speeds most centralised download servers offer.

>> No.50329587

>>50328873
I'm using an SSD. But the download has become so slow that I think two days won't be enough, even though I have 100 mbit/s internet. But I guess the p2p network is the bottleneck. Also I leared that since Monero has been used much more lately the newer blocks take much more time to download. Oh well.

>> No.50329628

>>50329562
Don't worry, you'll get it soon.

His speeds are likely very stable. Remember, not every block is the same size!

>> No.50329642

OK. Why are cryptos volatile in degenral ?
Second what is the fair price of a monero given the avg.cost to produce one.
Why is xmr so undervalued when the price should be about set. Energy dependant mostly

>> No.50329681

>>50329562
Thanks for your input, the question is if there is anything I can do to make it faster. My SSD and internet is fast so I don't think that's the bottleneck.
I got the percentage by typing "status" into the log.

>> No.50329811

>>50329681
Get a better CPU.

>> No.50329926

>>50329642
It's costing me personally ~$120 in electricity to mine one Monero right now, so we're basically at production cost in my book. "Fair" price is basically wherever the haggling has settled for the moment.

>> No.50330000

>>50329562
Indeed, download speed is not the problem, it's verification that starts to become a bottleneck. After all, you download and verify whether every single transaction and block is valid with a full sync, you do it for the whole chain. And the older part of the chain is simply easier to verify because of less transactions and more simple transactions being involved. That's why earlier parts of the sync can go so fast. But then as Monero improved, verification time, transaction size, and the number of transactions grew. Especially in the 2017-2019 era bytes/transaction were high and we didn't have optimizations, such as BPs.
But those 2 years will always be part of the blockchain, so you cannot do that much about it, other than further optimizations to the code that verifies. However, newer parts of the chain with transactions having BP(+)s, CLSAGs, and more in the future, syncing should become less of a pain, especially with a pruned node.
>>50329811
PoW is asymmetric. Easy to verify, but hard to produce. Even with a low-end CPU you can verify the hashes of ~1k of blocks a sec. I don't think that's the bottleneck.

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>>50309782
Price predictions for end of 2024? I'm fully into xmr and believe that it will happen once, but I also desperately want the money atm, since I'm a greedy cunt. HODL my fellas

>> No.50330085

>>50330000
>>50329811
My CPU is running below 40% so I guess it isn't the bottleneck either. But it's okay, I have accepted that it will still take a while, probably days. I will let it run overnight.

>> No.50330094

>>50330000
>I don't think that's the bottleneck.
Weird, so it's verification but not the CPU part of it that's bottlenecking? What is it then?

>PoW is asymmetric. Easy to verify, but hard to produce. Even with a low-end CPU you can verify the hashes of ~1k of blocks a sec.
Also, isn't there integrity verification (i.e. ZKP recalculation) on top of just the base PoW hash verification?

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>>50330000
that makes sense.

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>>50330000

>> No.50330208

>>50329642
>OK. Why are cryptos volatile in degenral ?
Because it has no real backing, in some sense making it similar to fiat money (except it's minted in a decentralised, controlled manner, rather than at the whims of some shady central bank with anonymous private individuals having full control). But the core point is that it's worth exactly how much people agree it's worth.
With something like a dollar or a euro, you have hundreds of millions of people transacting a GDP equivalent to a huge chunk of the world economy in them, so if everyone agrees on a price, it's not likely to move much unless everyone, at once, suddenly decides the price isn't right anymore. And then it sloooowly starts moving. Crypto is multiple orders of magnitude smaller so it moves much faster and much more. (Note however that even traditional currency can be subverted, see e.g. Soros raping the GBP back in the day.)

>Second what is the fair price of a monero given the avg.cost to produce one.
The cost to produce one is dynamic thanks to difficulty, and adjusts based on monero price. The more a monero is worth, the more profitable it is to mine, so the more people will mine and the more it will cost to mine until it's no longer profitable. The reverse happens if the price drops, people stop mining until few enough people are mining that it's profitable again.
Give or take some slack that's unique to XMR because there's gonna be lots of people mining it at a loss, either for ideological reasons or because they're part of a botnet.

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>>50330000
Checked

>> No.50330539
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50330539

>>50315948
PLEASE DO THIS.
SAVED

>> No.50330850

>>50330094
>Weird, so it's verification but not the CPU part of it that's bottlenecking? What is it then?
Verification of the PoWs is not the problem, verification in general by the CPU is the bottleneck (ring sigs, proofs, key images, signatures, all that kind of stuff) ofc a better CPU will likely increase the speed, but if you have decent hardware unless you buy some sort of ECC ASIC (https://rbrunner7.github.io/monero_3.html for a fun story about this) I don't think speeds will increase significantly. Maybe the --prep-blocks-threads and --max-concurrency options on monerod can help. Otherwise, have patience, running a Monero full node is more of service to humanity in general than what most humans will do in their lifetimes.

>> No.50331114

>>50330850
>verification in general by the CPU is the bottleneck
>>50330000
>I don't think [the CPU]'s the bottleneck.

are you alright anon

>> No.50331296
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50331296

>always buying the local top

>> No.50331410
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50331410

idk about you guys imop having to dedicate 2 days to a week to fully sync the blockchain only acts as a filter for moonboys.
anybody who cares enough to actually sync a node will stick with monero (unless some indisputably more cypherpunk crypto comes along, which is nearly impossible at this point)

>> No.50331441

>>50330020
Sell your bags and buy shitcoin #39267

>> No.50331893

can I ask a question to someone knowledgeable here?

>> No.50331983

>>50331893
ask wirey boi, he's the most knowledgeable person here>>50313508

>> No.50332055
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https://odysee.com/@cryptoanarchy:2/monero-road-to-success:1?lid=298e23142552677cba73337927c90b80453e21f5

>> No.50332079

>>50321327
I have shitcoins I stake, swap rewards for xmr on bitfinex since it doesn't require kyc.

>> No.50332167

>>50313508
>>50331983
when’re we getting rich lads?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/vy8udk/anyone_down_for_a_spontaneous_moneromeetup_in/

cologne bors, lets eat a pizza, have a socially akward chat and place stickers.

>> No.50332207

>>50331410
>unless some indisputably more cypherpunk crypto comes along, which is nearly impossible at this point
This is also because of Monero's willingness to hardfork to adopt better tech. BTC spawned a bunch of competitors because they wouldn't.

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50332222

>>50330539
I found one guy that will make me an ANSI Monero-chan, so once that gets done I'll put it online. Bought the monero.place domain for it. Gonna use this as the login matrix.

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>>50332222
checked

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50332298

>>50330539
Otherwise, I've got a fair number of other screens I've found that I'll put together into one theme, wizards, computers, lain, etc.

>> No.50332324

>>50332189
>reddit
>tripfagging
Go back.

>> No.50332459

>>50332324
>didn't recognize
lurk moar

>> No.50332597
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50332597

>>50332324
good reaction, id agree if it wasnt me

>>50332459
damn am i really that ancient

>> No.50332777

>>50332222
checked

>> No.50333461

>>50332167
If you work intelligently and don't trade time for dollars in a wagie cagie your whole life, likely some time between your 40's and 60's.

>> No.50333500

>>50332777
very nice, checked.

>> No.50333581

>>50309782
I swear to god I am stupid
>today I will buy and use XMR
>buy from exchange and send to wallet
>okay lets use this thing
>buy a domain using $10 worth of XMR
>a few days go by
>start getting calls by pajeets
>"Hello sirs!! My services are available for {Domain i just bought} I am js expert"
>multiple calls a day from numbers spoofed around the US
>multiple emails from jeets daily

WHY DID I USE MY REAL EMAIL AND NUMBER

>> No.50333608

>>50333500
back at you

>> No.50333621

>>50333581
did you seriously buy a domain and put your real info in the database? holy shit anon you really are dumb
even normie as fuck registrars offer whois privacy nowadays

>> No.50333687

>>50333621
>even normie as fuck registrars offer whois privacy nowadays
ya ones that take xmr apparently do not

>> No.50334594

>>50312216
Even without that giving that up, there is a way you can be fucked if you don't shield your wallets from the start

>> No.50334623
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50334623

>>50312499
I'd go for Railgun ahead of both anyway. Privacy system stained with any bit of centralization should be questioned big time

>> No.50334649

>>50313888
>but still be careful.
Best time to be extra careful. It's crazy out there

>> No.50334672

I am seeing more Monero exchanges in person nowadays

Any reason why?

>> No.50334684

>>50314374
You'll wasting your time, faggot. It's unlikely for XMR to see less than $100

>> No.50334725

>>50322167
The only plus I see in its support of NFT but I have reservations over its security since there are bridges and custodial risks. But it's true that smart contract protocols have the advantage to work across multiple chains.

>> No.50334878

>>50334594
>>50334623
>>50334649
>>50334684
>>50334725
holy fucking shit shut up about shitcoins and stop burning through the limited number of posts a thread can have.

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>> No.50335130
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50335130

>>50335048
booba

>> No.50335374

>>50334878
A sign of retardation is when everything appears to be a shitcoin. You should go check yourself

>> No.50335940
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50335940

Whats up you faggot simp niggers

Any XMR news?

>> No.50336358
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50336358

>>50335940
I am neither. But ICYMI, the biggest news around the corner are fluoride fermi (august hardfork) and a new DEX called Serai, respectfully:

getmonero.org/2022/04/20/network-upgrade-july-2022.html
AND
teddit.net/r/Monero/comments/vudljh/announcing_serai_a_new_dex_for_monero_bitcoin_and/

>> No.50336461

>>50334878
Another sign of retardation is when you believe general space is limited. Spamming is annoying but not because it "uses up posts".

>> No.50336829

Lads whadya think bout dis monerochan?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crPSZg8nCyQ

>> No.50337148
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50337148

>>50336829
as the creator i might be biased but i think the kaguya dance sony entertainment took down was better.

anyways, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKjoSxjRNjI is also pretty good. if you arent mentioned, get in the /xmr/ matrix and make yourself known. maybe even join our anime night.

>> No.50337257
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50337257

>>50334672
huge majority of dnm activity has recently become exclusively monero

>> No.50337281

>>50337148
Is the /xmr/ matrix pozzed? Can I use the gamer word there? Can I post waffen ss monerochans there? Am I missing much by hanging out only in /xmr general/?

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50337398

>>50336829
I want to put her in one of these and dance non-stop for me.
https://www.gatebox.ai/en

>> No.50337417

>>50337148
>if you arent mentioned, get in the /xmr/ matrix and make yourself known. maybe even join our anime night.
Oh thats not from me.
The channel belongs to monerobull (nagatoro profile pic) on reddit.
He lurks here sometimes me thinks.


Monerobull wo bist du monerochansohn?

>> No.50337453

>>50337398
Man I was thinking the same! All of us are weebs on this general isnt it?

>> No.50337660

>>50337417
well i bought a reddit nft for some reason and now my profile picture isnt nagatoro anymore.

>> No.50337723

>>50337660
You are monerobull?
Thats awesome man.. I saw your post on reddit, about meeting up in Cologne.. is that still on?

>> No.50337751
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50337751

>>50332222
>>50332777
>>50333500

>> No.50338032
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50338032

>>50337723
yeah that is on. meetup this weekend, if you buy me a beer with xmr ill give you a couple hundreds of stickers and then well plaster the city together.

>> No.50338128

>>50338032
>if you buy me a beer with xmr ill give you a couple hundreds of stickers and then well plaster the city together.
Sounds good..
If you also tell me you are NOT vaccinated I will buy you a large pizza with that beer.
Is the location within the city finalized?

>> No.50338186

>>50338128
ill be there friday, saturday, sunday. not even the day is finalized. try getting in contact via matrix.

i have to admit, i have been vaxxed a year ago to shut up my mum but not since.

>> No.50338843

>>50338186
I see two monerobulls, one with eyes covered and one without.. Which one is you?

>> No.50338918
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50338918

>>50327600

>> No.50339781

Just sent my XMR from exchange to mymonero wallet, its been 30min Ive got 11 rings but it seems to still be stuck and has 1/3 confirmations. Is it just a waiting game or is something clogged?

>> No.50339957

>>50339781
I am mining as fast as I can, fren.

>> No.50340063

>>50309960
>Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K
>>50313680
i love monero but this figure is simply wrong
many publicly traded mining companies have sold btc at a 4-figure production/opex cost this year

>> No.50340084

>>50332222
Quadriceps aside, you should definitely run an XMR denominated marketplace inside monero.place. I'm pretty sure you can put an address+amount QR code inside 80x25 too.

>> No.50340095

>>50313888
>guys make a copy of your wallet file.
alternatively, memorize your seed phrase like a chad and never worry
if you get alzheimers you don't need money anyways!

>> No.50340137

why use monero if you're just a normal person bying groceries and shit? all the fees and extra effort make it a pain in the ass when i can just use cash for basically the same privacy

>> No.50340185

>>50339781
My exchange says shits been confirmed, but mymonero says still pending, help

>> No.50340206

>>50340185
nvm it JUST confirmed on mymonero, shits slower than btc

>> No.50340304

>>50340137
I don't know about you but I do about 90% of my shopping over the Internet and Monero is way the fuck better than digital fiat for that. For paying in person, if the merchant has a HotShop point-of-sale system and you have a phone wallet it's on par with a chip-and-pin card for ease of use. Yeah cash is always going to be simpler, but it's also always going to be physically present. If you get mugged, all it takes is recovering your seed phrase and moving your Moneros to a new wallet to cuck the mugger out of anything more than the value of your phone.

>> No.50340438

>>50314401
It's 9.1% and price is still over 120$ whyyyyyyyyyyyy

>> No.50341097

>>50340084
It would be nice to operate a XMR<>WOW swap, most swap services are closed source though. I'll have to look more into it. Otherwise, merch I guess

>> No.50341144

>>50341097
You could add a frontend for Serai once that's ready.
https://github.com/serai-dex/serai

Unlike the Haveno UXfags this guy is a hardcore Rust-writing weeb so he's more likely to finish the project (his plebbit username is a Sword Art Online reference lel).

>> No.50341734

>>50340206
No, you are just retarded.

>> No.50342088
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50342088

>>50325401
>Zcash
fails howey in all ways.
>coin
no. it is a token due to it being a security.

>> No.50343592
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>> No.50343692

>>50309782
when are we getting zero knowledge proofs in xmr? it's time

>> No.50344556

>>50343692
>bulletproofs

>> No.50344859
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50344859

true

>> No.50344925

>>50338843
with covered eyes, homeserver is matrix bcs monerosocial was randomly wiped one day and i didnt want to bother with that anymore

>> No.50345323

>>50312066
nice try FBI

>> No.50345522

>>50312066
The picture is so cringe.
It's a cheap copy of xmr memes but without any soul or tact.
It's just some picture and some keywords.
This is not what zooko payed for sir.
0 rupies for you.

>> No.50345836

>>50315897
Put a ring on his finger anon you've found the one.

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50346144

>>50343692
>when are we getting zero knowledge proofs in xmr? it's time

Monero already uses ZKPs in RingCT, specifically Pedersen commitments & Bulletproofs+.

Or did you mean zk-SNARKs? Because that shit is still experimental and requires further beta-testing to mitigate the risks that come with using it.

>> No.50346446

https://www.amazon.com/Tracers-Dark-Global-Crime-Cryptocurrency/dp/0385548095/
uh maxipad bros?!?!

>> No.50346586
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50346586

THE MONERO MOON (ISSUE 50) IS OUT NOW!

Grab a coffee or a beer and kick back for a read.

Like, share, subscribe, and spread the word of Monero as it continues to grow and offer unmatched financial privacy.

https://www.themoneromoon.com/p/the-monero-moon-issue-50

>> No.50347108

>>50341734
How? I sent BTC and XMR at the same time, BTC took half the time XMR did.

>> No.50347171

>>50346586
Thanks John

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50347687

>>50346586
>THE MONERO MOON (ISSUE 50) IS OUT NOW!
>
>Grab a coffee or a beer and kick back for a read.

>> No.50347839

Anons, I need the best privacy moonshots out there, they don’t even have to be the best coins just good marketing good jeet shills etc. for next bullrun, I want a 30x pls sers.

>> No.50347880

>privacy coin
>can't even build properly on OpenBSD
why lads...

>> No.50347999

>>50312066
based undercover MoneroChad.

>> No.50348087

>>50347839
just buy random secret network tokens then

>> No.50349246

>>50309782
XMR is the pedo crypto. check NAV instead

>> No.50349295

>>50349246
in other words, monero is based

>> No.50349317
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50349317

>>50349246
and, how do you know this?

>> No.50349333

>>50347839
Wownero is a Doge inspired fork of Monero. Low marketcap and lots of meme potential, plus it actually supports the Monero community as they serve as a testnet for Monero tech.

If you're going to throw money into gambling moonshots, might as well be something actually beneficial to Monero.

>> No.50349502

>>50349246
Hustle never stops.
https://piped.kavin.rocks/watch?v=MskT_5DhOu4

>> No.50349890

>>50349333
>If you're going to throw money into gambling moonshots
The thing is for gambling moonshots, you need to either a) find whatever is going to be considered funny on twitter soon, or b) diversify beyond reason and hold like dozens of them, hoping for one x100 moon, VC-style.
So throwing it into wownero alone isn't going to satisfy the latter, and because wownero is so tied to monero my personal opinion is that if it were to ever get popular on twitter, it'd be after monero itself, or at best at the same time as. I just don't see a scenario where WOW moon pumps alone out of nowhere, doge-style.

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50350070

With 1,500 to 2,000 hash rate, what's the better better pool to be mining in, mini or main?

>> No.50350116

>>50315897
>tl;dr she pegs you
Got it.

>> No.50350174

>>50350070
I had similar hashrate numbers on my own setup.
I would say mini.

>> No.50350214

>>50350070
I get around 0-3 payouts per day on mini with 2.5kH/s. I don't think it matters too much either way, but if you wanna pick one then mini makes the most sense; I think main has like an order of magnitude higher difficulty so you're gonna be getting shares on the order of once a week or two.

>> No.50350270

>>50346144
>>50346144
>Monero already uses ZKPs in RingCT, specifically Pedersen commitments & Bulletproofs+.
same cope I've been hearing since forever. Someone post the monero-chan hentai mega collection, at least that gets updates.

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50350591

>>50350270

BP+ is the update

>> No.50350644

>>50350270
>muh cope
ztrannys down the hallway

>> No.50350655

>>50350174
>>50350214
I gotcha. Do I need to leave my machine running 24/7 to get a payout? I've been mining sporadically for the past few months, never leaving it on for more than 24 hours and I've never received anything.

>> No.50350739

>>50350655
You need to have your machine ON in order to find shares.
Your pool needs to find a block in XMR blockchain, in order for the pool members to get paid.
So, you gotta coincide your machine's ON hours with your "found shares" and the pool's "found block" hours.

>> No.50350802

>>50350739
I see. I guess I've just been unlucky for the past year.

>> No.50351014
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50351014

>>50350644

Zooko will never allow you niggers to use Halo.

Now feel free to seethe about it.

>> No.50351089

>>50351014
We got Seraphis upgrade coming.
Halo my ass.

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>>50351014

Uh, the exclusivity clause expires after a year. The MRL guys have already said they're going to rip out the guts and rewrite the code to customize it for XMR.

Thanks for financing all the R&D tho.

>> No.50351394

>>50350270
How is using ZKP cope?
>why do you not use it
>we do
>lol cope
Even for troll/shill this is bad quality post
Let me speak to your supervisor, no more rupies for you

>> No.50351578
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50351578

>>50351253

Too late, Zcash will already be the #1 privacy coin by then.

>> No.50351746
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50351746

>>50351578

lol on the basis of what, your non-existant darknet adoption?

You compliance-obsessed faggots fail to realize just how toxic your corporate spycoin is to OPSEC-minded users, ergo the conspicuous cold shoulder from the darknet & ransomware sectors, which is pretty much the kiss of death as far as privacy coins are concerned.

>> No.50351934
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50351934

>>50351746

Zcash doesn't need the darknet to be top dog, retard, institutional adoption is where the big bucks are.

So cope as best as you can when Wall Street jumps onto our bandwagon and pump ZEC to Pluto.

>> No.50352006

>>50351934
Bitcoin > Zcash
It even has as much privacy as like 90% of zcash transactions!

>> No.50352044

>>50352006
lmao

>> No.50352082

What a terrible job at fudding, I need this coin under 100$ DO YOUR JOB BETTER

>> No.50352219
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50352219

>>50351934

lol see, here's the thing:

CBDCs are coming and will be enforced as standard across the board for all compliant entities. This means that:

a) Wall St simply won't be allowed to play with crypto in general and privacy coins in particular.
b) Monero will remain largely unaffected since it's "institutional adoption" stems from transnational organized crime.

TL;DR: Z-fags are pinning all their hopes on something that will never happen.

Make sure you dilate after coping and seething.

>> No.50352287

>>50352219
>ze contributed
Is he German or something?

>> No.50352301

>>50352287
EAT.
ZE.
BUGS.

>> No.50352375

>>50352287
No it's because its pronouns are Ze/Zer
See vid related for pronunciation
https://youtu.be/YBdekGSC68A?t=27

>> No.50352471

My friends your wallet is in extremes danger you must purchase new and improved high upgradeable Zcash coin for your online crypto purchases

>> No.50352479
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50352479

>>50351934

lol cope Zooko has already made inroads with central bankers. The revolution begins soon.

https://www.snb.ch/en/ifor/research/id/researchtv-event?event=wc_627cb949655918275d72e3d2

>> No.50352542

>>50352301
Friend you must stop shilling this coin your life is danger. Please purchase Zcash and upgrade your telephone

>> No.50352557
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50352557

>>50352287
>Is he German or something?

SHE is stunning and brave, just like HER gorgeous wife.

>> No.50352602

>>50352542
GOOD MORNING SER

>> No.50352645
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50352645

>>50352479
>lol cope Zooko has already made inroads with central bankers.

Now kindly explain why this is a GOOD thing.

>> No.50352728

>>50352645

Its good for Zcash :)

>> No.50352791

>>50352728
:^)

>> No.50352833
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50352833

>>50352557
I thought this was a meme not based on reality

>> No.50352878

>>50352833
Upgrade wardribe. You can purchase gift card safe bad secretly with Zcash

>> No.50352924
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50352924

>>50352833
>I thought this was a meme not based on reality

>> No.50353497

>>50351934
>institutional adoption is where the big bucks are.
>retards abusing leverage and fucking over investors with exit scams is where the big bucks are
>richfags opening a goybase account to buy a few coins where they will sit until they have to sell during a time of crisis is where the big bucks are

>> No.50353504

>>50352791

Sneed.

>> No.50353542

NEW THREAD: >>50353528
>NEW THREAD: >>50353528
NEW THREAD: >>50353528
>NEW THREAD: >>50353528
NEW THREAD: >>50353528
>NEW THREAD: >>50353528

>> No.50354514

>>50350591
I read that name as "goofyjanny" at first

>> No.50354541

>>50352219
>>50352375
Literally zcash pronouns. My pronouns are My/Me (for monero)

>> No.50355255

>>50325051
I already have my wallet information anonymous and do not hold any damn token to have that done. XMR and SCRT cant give me that, put your ball gag back in.