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CEO of ADA CuckANUS on suicide watch and damage control after Saylor spits facts and logic

>> No.50396593

>>50396577
Charles is right

>> No.50396604

oh look, yet another attack of the rent free disease

many such cases

>> No.50396606

Everything else is a security but my coin isnt!!!

>> No.50396610

If Cardano is a security then Chainlink is a super security

>> No.50396650

>>50396593
>>50396593
he's a big fat scammer KEK

>> No.50396654

I hate the human onions as much as the next guy but he’s been on a streak being based recently and nobody is more ass torn than Saylor right now, his opinions are absolutely worthless.

>> No.50396699

>>50396577
cardano had an ico though right? definitely a security

>> No.50396703

>>50396577
Saylor was in the wrong here. He should have called Cardano worthless trash. Calling it a security was too kind.

>> No.50396720

Bitcoin maxi's are scared of the other coins. Its a game of king of the hill.

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>>50396703
savagely based

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>>50396577
Charles Hoskinson is a security threat

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>>50396727
He’s a threat alright. To economic injustice.

>> No.50396771

>>50396752
Bitcoin maxi's worry about "just us"

>> No.50396829

I mean Saylor is absolutely a fucking retard. I doubt he's even looked into any other crypto than bitcoin. Would definitely not take any investment advice from him when it comes to cryptos

>> No.50396856

>>50396829
On the other hand, imagine the video length of Charles' rant when their ICO classifies Cardano as a security, it's going to be hilarious

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50396871

saylor will off himself in 2023 when bitcoin hits 3k

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>>50396871
It's over.

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>>50396871
The margin call will be epic

>> No.50397013

>>50396871
Btc isn't hitting 4 digits you're delusional

>> No.50397029

>>50397013
>mathematically impossibru!

>> No.50397038

>>50396699
ico != security

>> No.50397039
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>>50396577
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Cardano. The tech is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of blockchain science most of the tech will go over a typical investor’s head. There's also Charles’ optimistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from reddit literature, for instance. The investors understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of the tech, to realize that they're not just innovative - they say something deep about the blockchain. As a consequence people who dislike Charles Hoskinson truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Charles’ existencial catchphrase “smart contracts EOY” which itself is a cryptic reference to Sergey Nazarov’s Russian Scam Chainlink. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Charles Hoskinson’s genius unfolds itself on their screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Cardano and Charles tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand

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>>50396577
>cryptofags destroy themselves by throwing regulators mafia at each other

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>>50397013
>BTC will never drop below 50k
>You will never see 40k again
>30k is the absolute bottom
>20k is super impenetrable diamond adamantium and can never be broken
?????
>Btc isn't hitting 4 digits you're delusional

>> No.50397140

>>50397090
Not the same delusional Bobo

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>>50397140
>this time is different

>> No.50397180

>>50397163
We've already hit the bottom you have maybe a couple years

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>>50397090
my longer range target is 3.5

>> No.50397229

>>50397222
Trips confirm Saylor will be btfo and Charles will have the last laugh

>> No.50397236

>>50397140
>>50397180
>after all the hype and advertising he thinks the jew world odor isn't going to nuke bitcoin to zero

>> No.50397251

>>50397222
My long term target is zero. Bitcoin is over 10 years old. It won’t be the technology going forward.

>> No.50397265

>>50397251
>google is over 10 years old
>it wont be the technology going foward

>> No.50397281

>>50397251
>tcp is over 10 years old
>it wont be the technology going foward

>> No.50397284

>>50397251
it will always have some novelty value, just because it once had a high price. same way pogs still have some value.

>> No.50397285

>>50397265
>false equivalency

>> No.50397294

>>50397265
google also took over before/when it was 10 years old

>> No.50397295

>>50397251
>intel x86 is over 10 years old
>it wont be the technology going forward

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>>50397295
>Water and food are over 10 years old. It’s the technology going forward.

>> No.50397343

>>50397285
>bridges are over 10 years old
>it wont be the technology going forward

>> No.50397348

>>50397343
we got a genius over here
now do jackie chan

>> No.50397366

>>50397343
>3g technology is over 10 years old
>it won't be the technology going forward

>> No.50397465

Every other coin is a security because bitcoin is the only one that is truly decentralised and it's been running on its own for 10 years. The rest of them have dev teams with their own adgenda some with closed secret code. Some with the ability to mint as many tokens as they fancy. And there is about 20,000 of these shitcoins. Personally I think the US should call all of them securities bar btc

>> No.50397483

>>50396610
I have news for you.

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>>50397236
What are they going do ban the internet? What power does any single person have over BTC. At this point one bitcoin is fundamental as a barrel of oil or a killo watt hour.

>> No.50397638

>>50397038
not by itself but it is a huge part

>> No.50397657

>>50397602
>What power
you realize people aren't allowed to collect rainwater in some places right? just to name one small thing
and the bigger things are the easier they are to stop, for the powers that be

>> No.50397688

>>50397284
>fifty year old and coping with the fact you had 10 years

>> No.50397718

>>50396577
Yep, when an actual MIT rocket scientist and longest standing Ceo in the world calls your pseudo crypto a security you can rest assured it is a security. /thread

>> No.50397734

>>50397718
>said ceo's company was also the reason for the dot com bubble bursting

>> No.50397788

>>50397657
The fact of the mater is that bitcoin benefits our over lords just as much as it benefits us

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>>50396577
KEK charles imitating saylor's faggy voice. Cardano confirmed as the CHAD chain once again.

>> No.50397874

>>50396577

sounds all like new faggots Cardano is a Security.
IOHK and Cardano started out as a japanese ICO scam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_FzZenA6PI

They were lucky that there was a bull run in 2017.

>> No.50398125

Cardona is the biggest, longest, running joke in the crypto space. Till it dies along with doge and shib, we are not a real investment medium.

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50398149

>>50396577
I don't know how should I treat Charles. I agree with everything he say but almost nothing is happening in Cardano space since 7 years now. The chain is still unusable for anything practical for many reasons.
Also I've never seen Charles write a single line of code in any language.

>> No.50398162

>>50398149
nigga talk is cheap and crypto is filled with an ocean of cheapies.

>> No.50398541

>>50398149
there's a lot happening in cardano lately, even stuff happening this month. And Charles isn't a programmer, if you want to see who actually writes the code for cardano, you look at the github: https://github.com/input-output-hk/cardano-node
the real star of cardano is Aggelos Kiayias

>> No.50398683

>>50397039
why is he wearing sunglasses indoors?

>> No.50398687

>>50398541
Cardano will win and /biz/ will rope

>> No.50398799

Charles is literally right about everything aside from Cardano not being a piece of shit.

>> No.50398816

>>50398687
using a dead programing language too! it's like you need a 5th grade mentality to invest in crypto.

>> No.50399049

>>50398541
>there's a lot happening in cardano lately, even stuff happening this month.
Yeah you still can't create a simple swap contract in Cardano. You have to make complex algorithmic acrobatics and systems of incentives for the most simple things. 2 TPS is still the maximum.
I can't emphasize this enough: It's been 7 years!!! 200 engineer is working on Cardano according to Charles!!! It's still tech from the 80's.
Cardano will be usable when they create the EVM sidechain. What is cheating in my opinion. They bragged about their EVM sidechain video and nothing in that video was made by Cardano developers. Everything was made by the Ethereum community. Cardano has no tools like those for their main chain. It's a shame.

>> No.50399079

>>50396871
Literally not possible anymore.

>> No.50399185

>>50397638
No it’s not.
“Investment of money” is one of the core requirements of the Howey test, but it applies to literally anything you buy, like potatoes.
The key to being a security or not is “did the sellers tell the buyers that they would make sure the price goes up”.

>> No.50399234

>>50396610
I'm glad you're beginning to understand.

>> No.50399238

>>50399049
no point in talking about what directions things are going with someone uninterested in steering the boat

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>>50397343
Raphtalia is over 10 years old. She won't be the waifu going forwards.

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>>50398541
145+ iq eyes

>> No.50399354

>>50397039
>Sergey nazarov's scam chainlink

Holy fucking KEK

>> No.50399358

>>50398816
what is so bad about haskall?

>> No.50400071

>>50399358
It triggers pajeet

>> No.50400411

Why is calling something a security and bad thing? What is a security

>> No.50400559

Where did Saylor say that

>> No.50400821

The judge in the Ripple case just ordered the SEC to turn over e-mails regarding how they determined ETH and BTC were NOT securities. The judge also said the SEC are hypocrites and are serving a goal which is not allegiance to the law. Within the next 2 weeks we are going to see exactly how the SEC determines what securities are and maybe even if they already discussed XRP and ADA and others. This is all to say, SEC is fugged

>> No.50400919

>>50400821
Or it just means that Eth is *also* a security, which it is, just like xrp and ada and pretty much all other premined coin

>> No.50400947

>>50400919
Okay, I bought ETH because the SEC explicitly gave market guidance that it is not a security. I get all my money back from tax payers now, right?

>> No.50401228

>>50396699
Where geographically was the ICO?

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>>50399185
>The key to being a security or not is “did the sellers tell the buyers that they would make sure the price goes up”.
says who?

>> No.50401687

They're both right

>> No.50401897

>>50400919
Premined has nothing to do with it

>> No.50402068

>>50397874
Vitalik is very thoughtful to not completely trash Charles in his Lex Friedman interview.

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>>50397013
It will bottom out around $5500

>> No.50403300

>>50396593
The fact that almost anyone would answer "Charles Hoskinson" to the question "Who currently leads and makes decisions for Cardano and its future?" In essence to me is enough to deem it a security.

Whether it will legally be enforced as such is a coin toss, but it's clearly a security in structure to me. Other coins like LINK are just more blatant.

>> No.50404192

>>50399238
What did you develop to Cardano? Or by "steering the boat" you mean you have 100 ADA and that's your contribution.

>> No.50404533

>>50401382
The SEC, using their howey definition

>> No.50404614

>>50397657
>people aren't allowed to collect rainwater in some places
Very few places and even fewer are actually trying to enforce such a stupid and unenforcable law.
People like you like to pretend the cunts who decide things are all super smarties who follow a secret and infallible plan because they can't cope with the fact that they are dumbfucks getting fucked by a bunch of degenerate schizophrenic drug addicts who couldn't organize a fuck party never mind a fucking country.
>tl;dr Go fuck yourself.

>> No.50404698

>>50397251
bitcoin likely won't advance much further over the years but it's not going anywhere. it'll still be THE cryptocurrency and whales will continue to push the narrative of "bitcoin will replace the dollar" and normies will continue to fall for it.

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>>50401897
https://twitter.com/i/status/1529238069378965506

They raised money to build a product and the investors expect a ROI from it. Pre-mine most certainly matters.

There's a reason Satoshi didn't pre-mine Bitcoin. He knew securities law.

>> No.50405059

>>50398149
>Thinks nothings happened on Cardano in the last 7 years
>Thinks the boss does all the work that he employs people for
Wew lad, careful with that double-digit IQ there!

>> No.50405106

>>50397251
>he still thinks bitcoin is a technology

maybe soon you'll realize why everyone else is rich and you're still desperately trying

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>>50396577

>> No.50405132

>>50396577
latinx