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50662008 No.50662008 [Reply] [Original]

Bunch of nobodies inherit gargantuan amounts of wealth by doing nothing; families of bankers from literal 16th century Europe still hold "generational" wealth of trillions when they're only the 4th nephews of the original money maker; it's the cancer of the system itself and the main cause of meritocracy being basically dead.

I propose Capitalism V2; all inheritance is banned and upon death all wealth is distributed to all private citizens; that way income inequality is solved in an organic manner because whoever is rich would be actually self-made and the cunts who inherited from daddy and poison economy's efficiency would be gone.

>> No.50662030

Silence, Jew.

>> No.50662034

>>50662030
wat. bankers inheriting trillions is the most "jew" thing there is.
are you trying to use 4chan's racism preemptively?

>> No.50662113

There’s already inheritance tax after $10,000,000 or so in most western countries

What you’re talking about billions are inheriting shares of ownership in companies….that would hurt smaller shareholders if the billionaire son was forced to liquidate a fuck ton of shares it makes no sense.

>> No.50662126

>>50662008
foh nobody owes you a damn thing

>> No.50662136

>>50662113
Problem is with gigantic amounts of wealth, it may take multiple generations to even see a big difference; take the big banking families of europe for example; they literally still have useless 10th generation descendants holding trillions of wealth without earning any of it.

Small family fortunes of a few millions should remain untouched but after a point it's just a cancer to society because you literally hand over immense political power to people that did nothing to earn it.

>> No.50662143

>>50662126
nobody owes you shit either inheritance baby, work for your wealth, otherwise you are a vermin that should be eradicated from the financial landscape.

>> No.50662144

>>50662008
>The biggest flaw of capitalism is inheritance.
Reddit is waiting for you.

>> No.50662147

>>50662136
They aren’t holding billions or trillions in bank accounts that you can just tax and spread out

The billions and trillions are held in investments which would crash those investments if they were forced to liquidate

>> No.50662154

>>50662147
That's bullshit. Transfer of wealth does not mean ruin of wealth.

If anything it's an improvement to not hand it over to a useless inheritance baby.

>> No.50662157

>>50662008
Found the fag who isn't getting anything from his parents kek

>> No.50662159

>>50662144
> I'm a useless inheritance baby
> therefore you're reddit
you're the most "reddit" there is you useless lazy unproductive piece of shit.

>> No.50662175

>>50662034
>start a charity that only pays out to my family and leave all my wealth in that when i die

>> No.50662177

>>50662113
>after $10,000,000
In the UK it's 35% after £325,000

>> No.50662181

>>50662008
Kys

>> No.50662184

>>50662181
> I have no argument
> therefore I should only personally attack them
I'm right signal.

>> No.50662189

>>50662154
Ok I’ll give a simple example to you


Satoshi dies and his son inherits his dads 1,000,000 bitcoin.

Satoshis son must liquidate 500,000 bitcoin to pay his inheritance tax, or he has to transfer 500,000 to the government, who will then distribute the 500,000 bitcoin.

Either way, this is 500,000 bitcoin going onto the market and it would crash the value of Bitcoin.

So now everyone else who holds bitcoin is pissed off and the total amount of money the government made is nowhere near what the original value was, so there’s very little to actually distribute because the forced liquidation of 500k bitcoin caused the price to crash to $1k or less

>> No.50662194

>>50662008
Nah that's bullshit. You wouldn't want your kid to have your money? I mean that's like most of the reason to make it so your kids can have it. Tax sounds better.

>> No.50662195

>>50662175
it's easy to legislate against tricks of that sort

>> No.50662196

>>50662184
the only way to 'fix' capitalism is remove 'them' from it
anything else is just cope

>> No.50662202

>>50662195
go on then, propose your legislation to prevent charities maderchod

>> No.50662203

>>50662008
What would be the incentive to work and acquire wealth if you couldn't pass it onto your children, so that some random dude or the government can put their dirty hands on it after you die?

>> No.50662214

>>50662196
"the jews"(or whatever /pol/acks think as jews), ARE EXACTLY THAT. families that hold trillions just because their great-great-great-great-granddaddy managed to be a self-made genius or too lucky.

>> No.50662221

>>50662143
i have wealth, clearly you don't. you will never, ever get your grubby mitts on my wealth; it's going to my son and there's nothing you can do about it. seethe, cope and dial 8

>> No.50662229

>>50662221
I don't give a shit if you have wealth, if you are self-made.

Don't come over and gloat if you're inherited from your mommy though you useless piece of shit and a vermin to society.

>> No.50662237

>>50662214
some of them no doubt but they look out for each other because it's part of their religion, like islamfags
so you'd just get them donating money to charities for their fellows and there is literally nothing you can do about it except ask moomy government to tax every single transaction

>> No.50662253 [DELETED] 

>>50662237
> some of them
all conspiracy theories against the jews have as a CORE of their theory that it's the big banking families that hold immense and unfair political power.

in reality it's not just the jews but they're in right in terms of political power being held by useless inheritance baby who happened to have a successful great-great-granddaddy banker.

>> No.50662260

>>50662008
>One of the oldest rules that even cavemen practiced is capitalism
Capitalism is the natural state of the world, and so the most suited for humans, as the most basic types of capital owns is his time and body.
Just like hereditary monarchy is the most suited political system

>> No.50662262

>>50662237
> some of them
all conspiracy theories against the jews have as a CORE of their theory that it's the big banking families that hold immense and unfair political power.

in reality it's not just the jews but they're right in terms of political power being held by useless inheritance babies who happened to have a successful great-great-granddaddy banker.

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50662275

>>50662214
Reminder National Socialism fixes this problem.

>> No.50662276

>>50662237
also it's easy to legislate against tricks like charity law being abused

>>50662202
again: it's easy to legislate against charity law being abused

>> No.50662280

Give to the oldest son. Find a flaw

>> No.50662281

>>50662177
You dont have taxes on liquid? Here in belgium it also depends on your relation to the dead person. Unless youre the first degree family, it goes up over 50% really fast, and if you have no relation, its avout 70-80% on liquid assets and thank god less for houses etc, but still

>> No.50662284

>>50662008
fuck off kike

>> No.50662286

>>50662262
>still no legislation proposed to prevent this
Seems like you need to admit defeat.

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>>50662280
my eldest son is a cunt

>> No.50662290

>>50662177
And ofc it starts way before 325k kek

>> No.50662300

>>50662291
Sounds like a personal problem

>> No.50662301

>>50662284
> kike
> all conspiracy theories against the jews warn exactly against big banker families transferring their wealth to useless descendants
pick one

>> No.50662302

You're a loser OP, and not just that but every man in your family (your dad, your grandpa, etc) was a loser too. I know this because none of them could rub two pennies together and contribute an inheritance toward you. Or maybe you don't even know your dad. We don't need advice from generational failures.

>> No.50662312 [DELETED] 

>>50662302
> my great-great-great-great-great-grandaddy who had a bank in 16th century europe, definitely defines my personal quality today.

you're stupid; let alone: all of use descent from the same ancestors; so you literally propose "WE WUZ KINGZ".

>> No.50662316

>>50662189
>let me give you an example that obviously works in my favor. No, if you give me one that works in your favor it's not correct! It just isn't okay?!?!

>> No.50662318

>>50662302
> my great-great-great-great-great-grandaddy who had a bank in 16th century europe, definitely defines my personal quality today.

you're stupid; let alone: all of us descent from the same ancestors; so you literally propose "WE WUZ KINGZ".

>> No.50662326

>>50662143
>you are a vermin
>>50662229
>and a vermin to society
you sound like a nutter and you're starting to repeat yourself. do better

>> No.50662327

>>50662008
>I was born into a shit family and couldn't make one myself and it's your fault, let's make this a single player game guys
Inheritance is natural, there's shitloads on inequality based on where you are born, which religion, family, etc. That's good though

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>>50662189
This is retarded because it wouldn't sell on the market but would act as an OTC deal to the rest of crypto in your example. I actually agree with OP here. Its mostly Jews that have this generational wealth anyway and they have had so much power and are destroying everyone else's lives. I'm sick of it desu

>> No.50662370

The reason people make money is to improve the life of themselves and their descendants. If you try to take that away there is less reason to be productive and improve the world. Furthermore, the state is an incredibly wasteful entity and giving away capital to people less deserving of it is not going to make the world better. What is going to happen actually, is that the capacity of the state to tax is only going to plummet, and the returns of trying to coerce people into paying tax is going to be lower than the return, eventually defaulting the state through deficit or hyperinflation. And all the resentful losers like yourself are going to find out that you have been living at the expense of useful people all along

>> No.50662419

>>50662008
Fuck you. I'm working my ass off for 50 years so my children can live in the comfort I never enjoyed and you want to take it away and give it to worthless niggers who never worked a day in their lifes? For what? Because you're jealous?

>> No.50662450

>>50662419
Answer this man, piece of shit entitled OP!

>> No.50662458

>>50662008
i know cases where the (rich by inheritance) father just does not give a cent to his children. its a phenomena of our time and pretty evil and destructive. its just natural instinct to offer a good life for your own blood. every born rich guy i know coming from a functioning family is basically a workaholic. The ones having it hard living paycheck to paycheck just waste it on stupid things like traveling around, cars and things with no value at all while beeing lazy with no will to work because its hopeless to get where they want with normal work.

>> No.50662465

most children of rich parents lose their inheritance and spend it on dumb shit because they didnt work for it

>> No.50662468

>>50662419
>>50662450
>>50662458
I'm not talking about small time fortunes. The legislation will be for the immensely rich.

The bunch of cunt families that hold trillions after several generations with little work.

>> No.50662480

now start with the prerequisites for your plan
a white ethnostate

>> No.50662487

>>50662468
the trillion dollar families you are talking about are untouchable. dont waste a second to think about it.

>> No.50662523

>>50662465
clogs to clogs in three generations, as the saying goes

>> No.50662532

>>50662465
in my experience its the opposite and just the case if left out for to long.

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50662536

>>50662008
>globohomo earth model
All opinions discarded. Next you decide to regurgitate propaganda via memes, think twice.

>> No.50662578

you have no numbers behind your claims so it just comes off as schizo nonsense

>> No.50662592

>>50662008
>Bunch of nobodies inherit gargantuan amounts of wealth by doing nothing
Who?
>families of bankers from literal 16th century Europe still hold "generational" wealth of trillions when they're only the 4th nephews of the original money maker
Who?
it's the cancer of the system itself and the main cause of meritocracy being basically dead.
A system designed by who?

>> No.50662605

>>50662008
inheritance is meritocratic because intelligence is very heritable. dynasties go to shit and one spoiled kid ruins all the wealth yes, but thats how the world works.

>> No.50662717

>>50662008
cool it with the antisemitism, anon

>> No.50662738

>>50662605
there cant be meritocracy if some people have a head start, connections, etc

>> No.50662761

>>50662008
South Korea is the only capitalist country that deals with inheritance the right way, they tax the shit out of it.

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50662781

>>50662008

okay lets do it

also pic related for the cabal

powered by chainlink

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>>50662781

>>50559468

here's the thread discussing it

have a nice day

>> No.50663207

>>50662008
Incorrect. It is a feature of capitalism. You just don't realize that the top families will never have dysfunctional families like the middleclasslings and lower castes.

>> No.50663248

>>50662008
Then you'd just secretly kill old people in get money

What the fuck that's brilliant, a built in brutality mechanic!

>> No.50663291

>>50662008
You would have to be a pants shitting, speech impediment, angrily confused little retard to think that families holding on to wealth for generations is any of your business or concern. People with that kind of money should be your focus client base, not the target of your broke obsession and jealousy. You are a businessman right? You know wagies belong in a dick sucking slave cage right?

>> No.50663314

>>50662008
The inheretance tax causes a lot of economic damage.

1. Property rights include the right to pass on or give away your property. An inheritance tax violates that right.
2. The inheritance tax forces many small businesses into a forced sale after the original owner passes away, since the whole value of the business is taxed even though that wealth is illiquid. Big firms like Berkshire Hathaway or other holding companies love this since they get an opportunity to buy them at lower prices. The large publicly traded companies don't get affected by this as much since they can sell shares on the market. This further pushes us towards a system of mega corporations owning everything.
3. It disincentivizes entrepreneurs from investing into longer time horizons. You can't do as much if you know you can't pass your work onto your offspring.
4. It incentivizes the wealthy to spend frivelously and squander wealth before they die rather than investing into productive resources.
5. The tax doesn't even raise much money because of #4.

>> No.50664173

>>50662008
Yes! There should be a 100% inheritance tax! Why would you want your loves ones to get your hard earned dollars... when that money could pay for a nice drone strike of a village you never herd of?

>> No.50664224

>>50662008
The problem with your V2 is that it's missing the Capitalism.
>fpbp

>> No.50664244

>Capitalism, but remove the last vestigial remains of all incentive for anybody to give a shit about the future beyond themselves
Things have been getting more dysfunctional specifically because people decided they cared less and less about the future you absolute brainlet nigger monkey. You’re proposing making the core problem worse on purpose.

>> No.50664275

>>50662008
“Only the man who does not need it is fit to inherit wealth- the man who would make his own fortune no matter where he started. If an heir is equal to his money, it serves him. If not, it destroys him. But you look on and cry that his money corrupted him. Did it? Or did he corrupt his money? Do not envy a worthless heir; his wealth is not yours and you would have done no better with it. Do not think that it should have been distributed among you; loading the world with fifty parasites instead of one, would not bring back the dead virtue which was the fortune.” -Ayn Rand, Altas Shrugged

>> No.50664318

>>50662034
You are doing Jewish pilpul you want inheritance banned for goyim but through loop holes jews will still find ways around it and also since they are in charge of government they will be the collectors of all our inheritances

>> No.50664448

>>50664318
This. The law is only for suckers and the poor.

>> No.50664459

>>50662008
Most billionaires alive today made their money during their own lifetime, so that doesn't check out. It's also obvious that you have no children of your own and hate kids, because any loving parent would want to pass on what they've made to their children to help them improve their lives.

That being said, I'm still in favor of inheritance being a major flaw in our version of capitalism, but I'm not sure how to get around it. The only thing that should realistically pass on is material goods and real estate, which would incentivize those holding assets to divest them into either material goods or real estate, but over the long run that would just cause exactly the problem we have now, except instead of wealth hoarding it would be material goods and real estate that was hoarded.

Unfortunate, if you extend the Arrow Theorem out to capitalism, you'll see that every model that supports accumulation of anything has a limit structure where most of what is accumulated is owned by a few, whether that be voting power creating dictatorships or an economic system creating outrageous wealth inequality (inb4 some idiot suggest le communism is the solution, you end up accumulating everything to the state instead of the people).

The only actual solution I can think of is living by Thomas Jefferson's suggesting that every generation have a new revolution - that every generation radically redefine power, the government, and the economy by taking it from the last. The digital revolution is almost entirely what caused the creation of so many new billionaires. China's economic revolution (by creating a capitalist class, lmao) is what created almost all of the rest. Revolutions don't necessarily need to be violent changes of entire systems of government or economy. But it would appear they need to be happening regularly.

>> No.50664949

>>50662008
>flaw of capitalism
fuck off back to hell Klaus
sagefaggot piece of jewish shit

>> No.50665011

>>50662030
>>50662113
>>50662126
>>50662143
>>50662144
>>50662157
>>50662181
>>50662284
>>50662450
>>50662717
These guys would never make it without mommy and daddy babysitting them their entire life. SAD

>> No.50665063

lmao the arguments against are retarded. My grandpa worked his ass off precisely so we didnt have to. He was a very selfless person and cared about family. Why should his wealth be taken and given to some randoms and not family? fuck off, OP

>> No.50665089

Kill yourself

Generational wealth is good thing.

Whites should be allowed to give money to their children.

>> No.50665106

>>50662154
Handing it over to the government is the most destructive thinking you can do with it.
It's far better simply sitting in an account not pushing up prices.

>> No.50665143

>>50662008
Keep your fucking hands of my stuff or I will kill you. Oh right, you’ll just send a bunch of 70 IQ cops to do your job pussy

>> No.50665175

>>50662318
Subhuman

>> No.50665192

>>50662189
>Either way, this is 500,000 bitcoin going onto the market and it would crash the value of Bitcoin.
1 bitcoin = 1 bitcoin and it is the thing to value things in. "the value of bitcoin will drop" is a bullshit statement in the future. its not proof of stake.

>> No.50665201

>>50662143
>nobody owes you shit
>reee gimme free shit because you ruin society
Obvious troll but come on, step up your game.

>> No.50665202

>they don't deserve that wealth
Then over time, they will squander it. Sometimes it might take several generations, but it will happen. Money is actually being redistributed over time by people who can persuade them to part with it. When you just tax people it's not quite the same. You say 'oh but they would've squandered that money anyway, I know better'. If you did, you'd already be incredibly wealthy.

The actual problem isn't free enterprise. It's that we have a monetary system that's insane. Certain people can literally create money out of the ether and give it to their friends. They even do insider trading (and say buy stocks with their own money before they use the Fed's money). Nobody goes to jail.

So before you go off on a rant about how 'capitalism' has failed, consider that the banking sector you complain about hoarding wealth unfairly is not just 'highly regulated' but it's also decoupled from reality. You complain about trillions but it wouldn't even be possible to have trillions of dollars in circulation in the first place if there was a sane monetary policy and bankers were put in jail for their crimes or at least were allowed to fail.

>> No.50665765

>>50662008
Kike spotted

>> No.50665808

>>50662008
kys or go to sweden where this is already implemented

>> No.50665984

>>50662008
>meritocracy
LMAO

>> No.50666014

>>50662008
fucking commies get the rope

>> No.50666135

>>50662008
loopholes already exist for the rich, and nowadays it'll be outright impossible to enforce due to Bitcoin

>> No.50666156

>biggest flaw of capitalism
>families of bankers from literal 16th century Europe
You mean from the pre-capitalist renaissance eta?
Hmmmm

>> No.50666301

>>50662008
>t. believes in redistributionism gibs to randos instead of your own children
The government gets nothing. Random niggers get nothing. Abolish the inheritance tax.

>> No.50666344

>>50662008
High quality genes generate wealth
Giving wealth to low quality genes is cruel and stupid

>> No.50666359

>>50662221
This guy gets it.
I grew up picking roaches out of cereal and now I have a nice life. My money is going to my kids because the generational poverty that my family has endured ends with me. I dont work for myself, i work for my family. If i couldn't pass my wealth down i would just sit back and watch this shit burn. Production requires the ability to accumulate wealth and to pass it down, otherwise intelligent productive people do nothing and the world is just left with unproductive retards that just want free shit.

>> No.50666366

look op, we get it, your dad is a broke retard and you are mad jelly. its ok. the solution is YOU break the cycle. take control of your own life. old money familys all have a potrait of some great great grandfather who started it all. Be that grandfather

>> No.50666396

>>50666359

Well said. Couldn’t say it any better.

We need to kill libs and communists soon who are absolute drags on society.

Of course society doesn’t matter because Jews have infiltrated the psyche to make our society be anyone’s society and all of these low IQ browns and immigrants have no love for white America or respect for the people that built the world we live in.

>> No.50666407

>>50662008
Great idea. Too bad many rich people will die with nothing left on their bank account.

>> No.50666433

>>50662008
Inheritance is a fundamental part of the system and can't be stopped without doing something retarded like bombing all cities into rubble ever 30 years.
The young naturally inherit the infrastructure, technical and social labors of their elders. If these are good, the young will have it easier and can push further if they try. If these are bad, the young has a more difficult time just regaining ground. The boomers inherited much and mostly squandered it. It seems like millennials and zoomers might make the same mistakes, too.

>> No.50666461

>>50662281
Flat 35% tax on the entire estate over £325,000. £500,000 if it is a house being passed on to the direct decendents

>> No.50666484

>>50662008
>implying generational memory isn't real
retard

>> No.50666488

>work your ass off getting educated
>provide a comfortable life for your family
>pass on all your stuff to your children when you inevitably perish
>fat retards on the internet purposely don't understand love and want to steal everything you earned
Jews.

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>>50662008
>commie posting
>on /biz/

Get the fuck off my board tranny newfag

>> No.50666547

Holy shit the amount of kike/pajeet/cuckbertarian seething in this thread. I don’t know if any one you temporarily-embarrassed-millionaire hick retards understand this: but the one percent of the entire west are all a bunch of kikes, pajeets and gooks. It’s not YOUR money that op is thinking about redistributing because none of you have any money

>> No.50666634

>>50666547

have you actually ran the numbers retard? how much everyone would receive if we only took the top 1%? in usa if we kill every 1%er with no slippage at all each 99% gets 120k. that isn't a life changing amount of money. steal from the rich is a meme, really they mean steal from everyone

>> No.50666697

>>50666634
You’re defending a bunch of pajeet/ kike/ and gook trust fund babies ruling over the entire west while you redneck white niggers work paycheck to paycheck. Stop being such a cuck, anon. You will never be rich

>> No.50666712

>>50666697

im not defending anyone, im attacking retards with terrible ideas i.e. you

>> No.50666757

>>50662008
retard this isn't a problem at all. 80% of millionaires are self made. this is because children of successful people are retarded and quickly squander the money. only leftist retards believe wealth is inherited because they're genetic losers who can't fathom becoming successful, like OP here

>> No.50666819

>>50666488
Checked and based
A Man's priority is to provide for their family and generational wealth can easily be created within 2 generations.
Inheritance tax is a way to steal family businesses, as the heirs won't be able to pay the tax on the business value.

>> No.50666874

>>50666757
>this is because children of successful people are retarded and quickly squander the money.

This.
Think about how many millionaires (by todays standards) got caught up in tulip mania, the south seas bubble, or just pissed it all away betting on jousting tournaments. The 20 or so families are the only ones that made it, and they only made it because grandpa would quite literally sell his grandkids to pedophiles if you didn't tow the line

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>>50662189
>bitcoin
Meme example.

You should have been honest and talked about oil shares etc. In either case, the prices only crash if the person who died had an enormous amount of shares to liquidate. Their ability to crash the market isn't actually the fault of the inheritance tax, it's because they had a monopoly in the first place, which is exactly the problem the tax is addresses. You sieve out the kikes with a tax and borderline militarize the IRS so they can enforce it (no reason not to, based on the stakes) and after 1 generation of economicaust you never have that problem again.

The real issue is that everyone is too comfy being a wagie to deal with the giga recession it would take to do full kike removal, but at this point it's looking like most people are facing a recession the span of their entire lives anyway so why not do it for the sake of future generations? Which inheritance would you rather pass to your children, your money and things, or a world free of jewish control? They're banking on you choosing the former.

>> No.50667111

>>50666874
This is all flat out wrong. The "American dream" was predicated on economic mobility. Having the freedom and fairness in the markets to move outside of the class you were born in if you work hard.

Kids born into bottom 5th percentile income 90% of the time are going to grow up to be bottom 5th percentile income.

Middle percentile income parents produce middle percentile income children. With small percentages ending up poor and small percentages ending up rich.

It's 10/80/10 split for the middle class. Like that 80/20 chad sex incel theory.

The fact that you even can move from the class you were born into is a new concept in a world history lens. But this "90% of millionaires are self made" when it's really as boring as wealthy upbringing -> nice college -> dad making phone calls

>> No.50667113

>>50662008
The founding fathers anticipated this— in reality most familial wealth (apart from absurd wealth) dissipates due to inheritance laws in about three generations. The problem is corporations and institutions which accumulate capital and never die. You can seen this with the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages.

>> No.50667462

>>50662008
People like you are beyond evil. Your jealous narcissism will be punished by God, but I will pray for you. I do believe he changes hearts and minds. I also believe that people like you have to work at it, which is something you likely don't want to do.

Having come from a lower middle class family that moved their way up through hard work, and who personally attended an elite school, I can tell you flat out your motivations are lazy+jealousy. The elite are that way because of hard work and genetics. You see a tv fantasy or trope geared to poor people and think you understand. These are pedigreed families, educated from birth to see the bigger picture, to think out of the box. The lazy are shamed, ignored... They value discipline and hard work. They organize themselves carefully over many generations to protect their interests.


Why should you be treated like them? You are not the same. You don't really want to be.

>> No.50667521

>>50667113
You are an idiot. Please consider some sort of surgical castration to prevent your genetics from populating the earth.

The Catholic Church was the repository for knowledge in Europe after several thousand years of civilization building destroyed the food webs. The same thing happened in India. Cambridge Economic Histories are a good place to start.

>> No.50667528

>>50662300
That doesn't mean giving it to the eldest is flawed

>> No.50667625

>>50666874
>>50666757
No. They arent. None of you have been around wealthy families.

They have superior genetics and culture. Simple as. Your mistake is thinking that hollywood and tv are anything like reality. You would find the lives of most elite rather boring, aside from rare vacation. It's a tv trope that they just sort of veg on the beach. I've known the children of several billionaires. Hard hard workers. They worked hard in school and knew the responsibility they were taking on.

Nothing is stopping you from doing this, except you either dont have genetics or motivation... Culture. You are entitled though, lol.

>> No.50667654

>>50662318
No. There are genetic differences. This is a sad cope.

>> No.50667693

>>50662008
What's the point of getting uber wealthy if I can't pass it on? I'd imagine a lot of people would stop trying without inheritance.

>> No.50667759

>>50662008
That would reduce efficiency. Some men reach their peak of skill and potential late in life after years of work and study. Coincidentally that is also the stage of life where they’d rather just relax and retire to private life. The only thing that stops them from doing that is the promise of generational wealth. It is every mans right to pass his inheritance down to his children, it’s not my fault you were raised my a single mother. Additionally, we already have a mechanism for removing the wealth of an entrenched and dysfunctional aristocracy. Google Robespierre.

>> No.50667891

>>50667521
Wrong, the Catholic Church became an unofficial governing body for Western Europe because of their economic power. This economic power came from 600 years of tithings, and the inheritance of property from those without offspring to pass it down to. The church doesn’t die, the church doesn’t pay taxes, therefore the church snowballed eventually snowballed into a monolithic power.

You are a fucking retard who is probably 16 years old. I hope your daddy throat fucked you so you at least earned your inheritance.

>> No.50668078

>>50667891
>Jewish revisionist history

Ngmi

>> No.50668242

>>50667891
LOL. The seething cope of a loser. I never said it wasn't a governing body.

I could talk about my stem and humanities degrees, and I've lectured at the college level on the impact of the Catholic Church. The worst thing I can do, though, is simply point out that the shrill tone in your postings comes from insecurity and narcissism on your part. You know why you are angry. It isn't because your opinion is valuable.

>> No.50668278

>>50667891
People like you are mouthy because of common core, grade inflation, welfare, etc.

>> No.50668309

>>50662008
Based and redpilled

>> No.50668332

>>50667891
I get it. A lifetime of mediocre education, special snowflake classes, and pbs specials with woke degrasse tyson convinced you the opinions of people in your intelligence range mattered. This was marketing and paternalism... You were never going to matter to the system in the way you were educated — except as a reliably disgruntled demographic. That is your only feature ... Being disgruntled.

>> No.50668351

>>50667891
Think about it... The only thing you contribute is entitlement.

>> No.50668377

>>50668309
Nothing based about being so helpless and entitled you steal things from people that are actually based. It's only based if you have ghetto mentality.

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every anti-capitalism thread boils down to people being upset that their parents didn't set them up for life while others had parent who didn't blow their money on carnival cruises and financed vehicles

>> No.50668442

>>50662008
Would be far easier to ban being jewish rather than attempt to cheat people out of money that belongs to their families. Giving away other people's money amounts to most people getting pennies or a couple bucks when some rich guy dies.

The ideal situation is to cultivate a culture and set of values that prizes financial responsibility and modesty (so no wasting your money on 6 figure gucci dildos or diamond encrusted lambos) while also severely reducing taxes and other financial systems that claim to be for the greater good. People should be expected and encouraged to be able to look after their own finances and plan for their own futures. Social security and various other safety net programs have proven to be severely unhelpful and actually damaging to the people who expected to rely on them, thanks to inflation caused by government involvement.

In short, let people have as much of their own money as possible and train them to take care of it and use it wisely.

>> No.50668469

>>50662008
People aren't all the same OP, which is the flaw of every socialist doctrine.
While you could have a point saying that inherited wealth disrupt an even playing field, that same wealth could be dissipated by the newest generations if they're just lazy or financially inept or just unlucky.
And if you were to forcefully remove that wealth, you'd still have smarter people which would find a way to gain an advantage on less talented folks.
On the other hand, if you hand out cash or assign properties and goods to the least affluent, there would certainly be abuse and widespread corruption.
Realistically we can only hope for the people in charge to be benevolent towards the society.
Free market + enterprise isn't perfect but so far have been the best option to create opportunity for creating wealth.
TL;DR: we live under the illusion to play in the same league but we don't, never did and never will.

>> No.50668478

>>50662738
Gaining all that is meritocracy. Socially intelligent people understand how to navigate networks and relationships.

>> No.50668616

>>50662738
The race started thousands of years before you were born. Expecting all newborn people to start on a truly even playing ground is a deeply flawed and ridiculous desire that can't even begin to be addressed through giving the government more power to pick on specific people based on how their lives turned out.

>> No.50669275

>>50666634
> it's only 120,000 dollars bro
> 120,000 dollars for each of all your children and your wife and you bro
> literally nothing bro

>> No.50669300

>>50669275

imagine being this poor

>> No.50669324

>>50669300
imagine being this delusional about the upcoming revolution

>> No.50669342

>>50669324
LOL

keep telling yourself that while your fellow poors sell you out

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So the regular hick family of 7 children, will get 120k each including the parents and grandparents for a total sum of 1 million 320 thousand dollars.

and /pol/acks have the delusion they are looking for their own self-interest when the support the banking families.

>> No.50669388

>>50662143
>should be eradicated from the financial landscape
They will be if they deserve to be. Simple as.

>> No.50669409

>>50662221
As the son of a great dad like this, based

>> No.50669422

Trying to deprive people of the right to build wealth to pass onto their children? Fuck no. Find something else

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>>50666359
>Production requires the ability to accumulate wealth and to pass it down, otherwise intelligent productive people do nothing and the world is just left with unproductive retards that just want free shit
That's what is happening. Don't care too comfy.

>> No.50669500

>>50667462
>You don't really want to be.
What does this part mean?

>> No.50669504

>>50662008
Inequality isn't a problem, and banning monetary inheritance won't solve anything as people would still pass their genes to the next generations, high iq and high conscientiousness genes will serve a child better than 1 million in inheritance.

What you stupid leftists refuse to see is that the true inequalities are invisible and escape politics. Some people are happy by nature, some are depressed. Some are tall and some are short. Some beautiful, some ugly.

Money is actually an equalizer. With money, an ugly man can have a pretty wife. And everyone can have money just by being lucky at any point in their lives in a capitalist society, while in a commie one if you're born ugly you're just fucked for good without hope of ever making it.

But you'll never understand that OP, because like every leftycuck you're a superficial midwit.

>> No.50669545

>>50669504
> my genes are superior
> but I'm useless without inheriting from my mommy

you are stupid

the problem is not that you are "right wing" and you're supposedly oppressed by the "left wing"; your problem is that you are a stupid cunt; left or right in the political spectrum has nothing to do with it (it's what they use to pit the sheep like you against one another).

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imagine being that stupid, to admit your children are too useless to be self-made, and at the same sentence say that your family is supposedly superior.

>> No.50669581

>>50662136
>you literally hand over immense political power to people that did nothing to earn it.
That's the only part that matter and that's a problem with democracy not capitalism. Have a political system that harshly punish corruption and that won't be a problem.
Right now billionaires have power because they're able to by medias and pay the marketing campaigns of politicians.

Do you think even the richest merchant of Europe could have pressured Charlemagne into doing anything?

>> No.50669589

I am the physical manifestation of my ancestors and deserve their wealth. They live through me. Keep seething.

>> No.50669631

>>50662143
Why would you work if not for your legacy? If you forbid me to pass my inheritance to my children I just leave the country with everything I own, and so will do any capable persons.
If you implement your utopia internationally, leaving me no escape, I'll do the bare minimum.
Schemers will be able to game the system, and the good citizens will be fucked over.

>> No.50669756

Threads full of lineage parasites that couldn't be self sufficient if they tried.

>> No.50670419

>>50662468
I've met some children's of old rich families in university, I found most of them dislikable but they definitely weren't lazy, they worked harder than me or most normies I ever met.

>> No.50670427

>>50662008
Isn't this what Plato's Republic is all about?

>> No.50670463

>>50662008
>all inheritance is banned and upon death
how can you ban the desire to privately store value? it's as inherent in every one of us as a squirrel's desire to store nuts for the winter

>> No.50670610

>>50669545
Who are you replying to? I didn't said or implied anything you quoted and I don't consider myself right wing. Don't (You) me if you're going to misrepresent what I said

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>>50662008
>my ism is better than your ism