/XMR/ Monero General

[Anonymous No.50663419]

Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptos. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier of entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward will gradually approach 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://youtu.be/wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Binance
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Kucoin
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
My Monero
Exodus
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

[Anonymous No.50663437]

I love my monero
Trading time
I love my monero
I love my monero

[Anonymous No.50663438]

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>50620666

[Anonymous No.50663450]

STOP MINING IN MINEXMR
>START MINING IN P2POOL
STOP MINING IN MINEXMR
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shutdown/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't; It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. When P2Pool reaches 51% of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.


YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET!

If you have a PC or laptop:

1. Download Monero GUI
https://i.imgur.com/ZGefPef.png

2. Pick 'Advanced' mode
https://i.imgur.com/4c0uSE4.png

3. Set up your wallet
https://i.imgur.com/4lMKh00.png

4. Keep the default Daemon settings "Start a node automatically in the background"
https://i.imgur.com/maACmmT.png

5. Once sync'd, go to Advanced->Mining and pick 'P2Pool'. If you have a laptop or low-end PC (~50 kH/s) pick "Mini" pool, else pick "Main"
https://i.imgur.com/E60JeMG.png

P2Pool-compatible remote nodes if you do not have your own local copy of the blockchain:

>p2pmd.xmrvsbeast.com - (Western Europe) (rpc-port 18081, zmq-port 18083)
>myxmr.net - (Northern Europe) (rpc-port 18081, zmq-port 18083)

OTHERWISE SWITCH TO A SMALLER POOL, IT TAKES YOU 30 SECONDS AND YOU CAN JUST SOURCE A DIFFERENT CONFIG FILE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FUCK UP YOUR EXISTING ONE.

Many inexperienced miners think that big pools give better profits which is not the case. Your profits in the long run depend only on your hashrate, not on the pool's hashrate.

https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

[Anonymous No.50663465]

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

[Anonymous No.50663468]

[Anonymous No.50663475]

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.


>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://monero.com/marketplace
https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/
https://acceptedhere.io/catalog/currency/xmr/

>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors

>AlphaBay
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market (recently launched, exercise caution)
>Cloud Market (recently launched, exercise caution)
>Darkmoon (recently launched, exercise caution)
>FilthyFellas
>Mellow Market (recently launched, exercise caution)
>Retro Market (recently launched, exercise caution)
Onion links: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/2jbqd


>Poker Club: play no-limit Texas Hold'em in real time with 2-8 players over the safety of Tor with the privacy of Monero! No user account required.
http://pokerggxmrvzecuo6afhucjwdljuve5eoavxdxdr6zedyejd6mvz5wad.onion

>XMR Poker
http://xmrpoker3icphjr7c6dgct3by44ph4xvxrds4jzwjkjh7h2owdf6icyd.onion


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://magicgrants.org/funds/monero/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

[Anonymous No.50663486]

>>50663475
>Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

[Anonymous No.50663491]

>The irrational exuberance of cryptocurrency investors

Irrational exuberance is characterized as a hype-fueled mania that causes investors to massively overestimate an asset's real-world value. In this delusional state, investors tend to become so smitten with expectations of greater profits that they disregard the assets’ potentially weak fundamentals and drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.

This then leads to them recklessly and repeatedly buying into whatever asset is currently rising in the charts, thereby triggering and/or sustaining an asset bubble. This bubble is kept inflated solely by the mass delusion that the market price is justified and will only keep going up in future, effectively becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Note that bubbles can last for years, especially in an age of easy investor on-boarding. However, when history inevitably repeats and the bubble bursts that optimism invariably turns into panic as the asset crashes back down to its real-world value.

In finance, the "greater fool theory" suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets—items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value—if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.

In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, hoping that he can sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit. This only works as long as there are enough new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value, which in some cases could be zero.

This effect is often further exacerbated by herd mentality, whereby people hear stories of others who bought in early and made big profits, causing those who did not buy to feel a fear of missing out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g

[Anonymous No.50663496]

>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

[Anonymous No.50663549]

>Trusted technology, growing adoption

Zcash was launched by one of the most respected technical teams in the world.

Zcash is the 'https of blockchains,' protecting your freedom to save and spend as you like.

Zcash was the first project to implement zk-SNARKs, a novel form of zero-knowledge cryptography that gives its users the strongest privacy available in any digital currency.

Multiple, independent organizations are funded to innovate on Zcash.

Zcash is already available on top exchanges, digital wallets and a growing number of applications.

[Anonymous No.50663651]

Are there anything I need to watch our for when I buy Monero like this?
> Fiat -> BTC on KYC exchange
> Send BTC directly from KYC exchange to Sideshift.ai
> Receive Monero from Sideshift.ai

[Anonymous No.50663722]

>>50663651
Never heard of sideshift.ai but it seems you can trade anything for monero so why not use something cheaper than BTC?

[Anonymous No.50663753]

>>50663496
I'm willing to bet the share of the hashrate used by inefficient miners in China and private small miners will be replaced by companies operating with specialized chipsets and using a good amount of cheaper renewable energy over time. Probably why this is a decent time to buy, not sell.

[Anonymous No.50663826]

>>50663496
Would BTC mining be healthier if it was still CPU-mineable?

Is ASIC not needed?

[Anonymous No.50664197]

>>50663826
>Would BTC mining be healthier if it was still CPU-mineable?
Only CPU mined coins are decentralized. If its not its not a crypto at all. You could skip mining BTC altogether and make a webpage with a leader-board in this point.
BTC used to be CPU-GPU minable before asics were invented. Monero solves this by making the code asic resistant artificially.
BTC corporations that do the mining have no interest in giving up power and committing financial suicide for the investment to do so.
So its no longer By and For the people + corporations answer to governments and special interest groups.
Just make a BTC leader bard webpage server and skip mining at this point.
XM is the only coin, not controlled by anyone and any miner CPU miner can vote if 'A' team coses to do an OPEN SOURCE update. or do a roll back

[Anonymous No.50664230]

>>50663651
LTC is cheaper than BTC and with less fees.
See https://orangefren.com/ for the best offer available. Have a personal wallet ready to receive your XMR.

>>50663826
>Would BTC mining be healthier if it was still CPU-mineable?
Yes, albeit the supply cap still is a major problem.
>Is ASIC not needed?
Also yes, not needed as they reduce decentralization due to the specific machines needing governmental approval. CPUs are everywhere, you cannot ban them.

[Anonymous No.50664399]

Don't reply to the shills. Just report and move on.

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.50664652]

Reporting in

tor irc- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/tzm4s
Aliases- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/bjbx3
Extras- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/daxte
Nodes- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/ke2k8
Mining- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/c7na4

[Anonymous No.50664671]

>>50663419
where i can get free monero?

[Anonymous No.50664753]

Dropping in and announcing again:

Introducing piconeroj.eu - An XMR/WOW P2P marketplace.

Following the philosophy of Agorism the site tries to fill the gap of an easy to access P2P market on the clear web. This does not require an account or registration. The site, in principle, is a glorified image board with Advertisements instead of Threads with a spirit of Craig's list.

The site does not require cookies or JS to use and is accessible via VPN or TOR. We are currently in alpha state and is in need to people to test out their buy/sell ads.

In order to prevent abuse and maintain a high quality Adverts will be manually screened by the moderators. Therefore expect a delay of a few hours for your adverts to show up.

Have fun, post ads and try to break things - The site is in alpha stage and requires bugs to be caught and crushed.

[Anonymous No.50664758]

>>50664671
I do have the same question

[Anonymous No.50664767]

>>50664753
Please post this in every thread.

[Anonymous No.50664772]

>>50664767
Will do :)

[Anonymous No.50664909]

>>50664753
An image board marketplace operating on trust? It sounds like you're going to get a lot of scams as both buyers and sellers, I would really consider implementing escrow or even some sort of reputation system. Also why specifically ban furry art? That seems oddly arbitrary.

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.50664918]

>ATTENTION ALL MONERO USERS
ATTENTION ALL MONERO USERS

THE NETWORK NEEDS YOU.

IT IS POSSIBLE THAT MANY OF MINEXMRS MINERS WILL NOT GET THE MESSAGE IN TIME FOR THE SHUTDOWN. DO YOUR PART TO HELP TEMPORARILY BOLSTER HASHRATE DURING THIS TRANSITION.

https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/h44oo
https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/h44oo
https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/h44oo

[Anonymous No.50665112]

This is what Monero chuds don't want you to know.

Buy Zcash if you actually want to make it.

[Anonymous No.50665259]

>>50665112
I don't want to make it per se, I want a state of society where the existence of the State is made impossible through technology. A society where a true, border-less free market economy is enabled on a large scale to all. You would know that this general is about this if you would have read the fucking OP bellow which you are posting >>50663475.
So again, we kindly as you to fuck off and make your own general. Or lurk moar to have even the basic sense of what we are doing in here.

[Anonymous No.50665371]

>>50663450
>STOP MINING IN MINEXMR
Soon to be irrelevant.
What a comfy coin

[Anonymous No.50665469]

>>50665112
>With many "privacy" coins (and cryptos in general), there is an attitude of "f*ck the government and regulators, they can't stop us!". But let's be honest, if a coin is to see mainstream adoption from institutions, government, and retail, it has to fit in and be compliant with the traditional system of laws and regulation. Zcash has stamps of approval from FATF, FinCEN, and NYDFS. Given that Bitcoin ETFs are right around the corner, it is not a stretch of the imagination that we could see Zcash ETFs at some point as well.

>Now let's look at Monero, for example. It has a market cap over double the size of Zcash- yet do you really think the (small) Monero team is engaging with regulators and has regulatory compliance? Of course not. This is the same with many coins that are higher in market cap than Zcash. Hardly any engage with regulators and governments, and even less have approval from major regulatory bodies like FATF, FinCEN, NYDFS, etc. We are likely never going to see any kind of ETFs or significant investments from institutions in these kinds of coins. Zcash institutional investment will continue to grow over time (which will hugely increase the price) because Zcash has the regulatory and governmental stamp of approval.

This Is What Z-Niggers Actually Believe

[Anonymous No.50665623]

>>50665259

Yeah, keep daydreaming about a Utopian society that will never happen.

Meanwhile, I'll be over on my yacht getting blown by Ukranian teens.

[Anonymous No.50665630]

>>50664918
Based and checked.

[Anonymous No.50665671]

>>50665469

Non-compliance = no institutional investment = no moon mission, dimwit.

Guess y'all just gotta learn the hard way.

[Anonymous No.50665767]

[Hodlin Caulfield No.50665819]

checking in

[Anonymous No.50665831]

>>50663549
>please...please buy Zcash

[Anonymous No.50665866]

monero is where devs just print thousands of coins for themselves because no one can notice. (they then dump it on the market.) this is why the price action is so bad

[Hodlin Caulfield No.50665896]

>>50665866
if nobody can notice, how do you know theyre doing it?

[Anonymous No.50665916]

>>50665896
you see suspicious sell orders. moneros circulating supply is more close to 24 million due to this

[Anonymous No.50665933]

>>50665671
>no institutional investment

Governments enforcing CBDC exclusivity amounts to the same thing, fuckhead. That is what you dipshits fail to appreciate. Your bull case depends on the government allowing Zcash to be used alongside their Fedcoin, which is hilarious to contemplate.

Meanwhile, Monero's bull case depends on transnational organized crime continuing to stockpile it, which obviously doesn't require the gubmint's permission.

Now continue blowing Uncle Sam & Friends.

[Anonymous No.50665951]

>>50665866
>>50665916

We're back to this FUD again?

>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug

[Anonymous No.50665954]

>>50665623
>Stealing the thumbnail

[Anonymous No.50665971]

>>50663549
>Zcash was launched by one of the most respected technical teams in the world.
nobody will ever trust zcash just give it a fuckin rest retard

[Anonymous No.50666111]

>>50664909
>An image board marketplace operating on trust?
Based on tripcode based reputation.
Just like how it used to work in medivial times.
The site is meant for small transactions only - hence the name piconeroj
> It sounds like you're going to get a lot of scams as both buyers and sellers,
Escrow will be available for large value transactions.

[Anonymous No.50666133]

>>50663419
>>50664753
https://moneromarket.io/
also just launched

[Anonymous No.50666198]

>>50666133
>https://moneromarket.io/
based

[Anonymous No.50666210]

cup game soon

[Anonymous No.50666438]

>50665112
What is the matter with Zhitters and their insistence on maximum cringe in all of their promotion efforts. Did they follow standard corporate procedures and arrive at this strategy through market research with focus groups?
All of that is VC scam hopium so generic that kindergarteners should be able to recognize it by now. How can you read this and not feel embarrassed by the retard-friendly use of cursive?

[Anonymous No.50666560]

>>50666133
selling my CDs
https://moneromarket.io/listing/5a9b1d81-1a85-4929-a005-2ab0172fd656

[Anonymous No.50666810]

>>50666560

Larger images need to be enabled, can't even read the CD titles.

The listing isn't showing up in the Music category and fails to show for a "CD" search as well.

[Anonymous No.50666812]

>>50663419
the thumbnail looked like Monerochan with cat ears

[Anonymous No.50666843]

>>50666810

Nevermind, seems to be working now, guess it's a caching thing.

[Anonymous No.50666979]

>>50666810
yep i couldnt upload default images from my phone and had to scale them down

[Anonymous No.50667742]

Someone should make something like Saltybet, but with Monero.

[Anonymous No.50668211]

Just got the logoff commission screen back for monero.place and it looks fantastic. Now just waiting on a few menu screens.
Also, any donations will go to commissioning more art & development of new mods.

[White Spiritual Boy Trust No.50668272]

>>50664918
Oopsies, pedos on the web1.0? WHAT A FUCKY WUCKY

[Anonymous No.50668600]

>>50668211
wttr.in has a JSON API you can use for weather

[Anonymous No.50668803]

I'm making a quick Monero-chan in Koikatsu

[Anonymous No.50668877]

I'm making a quick Monero-chan in Koikatsu

[Anonymous No.50668899]

>>50668877
What about AA2?

[Anonymous No.50669477]

>>50668899
Sorry

[Anonymous No.50669527]

>>50663651
>Are there anything I need to watch our for when I buy Monero like this?
1. If you're a US citizen, you need to be keeping track of your trades if you're starting out with BTC. That is a taxable event and when IRS-chan decides to audit you she's going to be able to see exactly where that BTC went. Even if you're using a stablecoin like Tether or USDC and there's no capital gain/loss when trading it, it's against the law to not report it.
2. If, for any reason, sideshift or any other of those crypto swap websites gets on the shitlist of your KYC exchange, your account may get frozen. People have had their Coinbase accounts frozen just for using wasabi wallet after withdrawing their bitcoin.
3. As a couple other users have pointed out, litecoin is a preferable alternative to bitcoin not just because it's cheaper but also much faster block confirmations.

[Anonymous No.50669890]

>>50664753
You need to clean up the rules page, right now it reads like

>you will not post buy/sell ads that:
>a. break the law
>b. aids in breaking the law
>c. is against the law
>d. is illegal
>e. would put you in jail
>f. is criminal
>g. violates criminal statute
>h. are not legal
>i. is unlawful
>j. is outlawed
>k. is illicit
>l. is banned in the US, EU, and/or your local jurisdiction

[Anonymous No.50670694]

>>50665916
>circulating supply is more close to 24 million
pXMR is the real problem

[Anonymous No.50670905]

>>50665896
>>50665916
>>50670694
>>50665866
The price action is not a conspiracy, it's not an inflation bug, it's just a consequence of actually being used. It's actually used rather than hoarded, which makes the price stable, a consequence of high velocity. The basic price model being something like:

USD Price = Total value of services purchased / [(Total Supply - Withheld supply) * Velocity]

It's actually used, so supply withheld by speculators is fairly low and velocity is high. But all the same mcap #30 is good progress.

[Anonymous No.50671176]

>>50670905
>>It's actually used, so supply withheld by speculators is fairly low and velocity is high.
It also helps that any chump with a phone and a few bucks can buy it in-app from fiat via BTC or LTC in Cake Wallet so the barrier to entry is low.

[Anonymous No.50671625]

>>50668877
>that thigh gap
wew

[Anonymous No.50672194]

[Anonymous No.50672391]

>>50665954
Thanks for providing the actual image.

[Anonymous No.50672500]

>>50671176
I get that whenever normies use something, they ruin it. But still, I'm glad Monero is user-friendly and meant to be used. I'm not above using shitcoins to accumulate more XMR in the meantime.

[Anonymous No.50672587]

>>50672500
Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. It takes less than two BTC block times to go from fiat in my checking account to XMR in my petty-cash wallet if I use LTC as the intermediary. It comes in handy if I need to buy something or send someone money without touching my main stash. Faster and easier than ACH.

[Anonymous No.50673012]

hi friends, just bought my first xmr, but im still a complete retard when it comes to privacy besides monero. do you guys have any guides or indications for going full privacy mode on the web or something? ty

[Anonymous No.50673143]

>>50673012
Check out techlore on youtube, specifically the "go incognito" playlist (there's also a 4.5-hour video on their channel that combines the entire playlist).

[Anonymous No.50673189]

>>50664909
Kangaroo Kourt and Stake curate

[Anonymous No.50673245]

>>50673012
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Anonymizing_yourself
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Security
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Fucko (namely the part about the Dale Gribble effect. You need to be ok with the fact that you're on a list)

[Anonymous No.50673595]

>>50668877
Looking good, nice job anon

[Anonymous No.50673901]

>>50669890
>id is literally ICE

I think piconeroj is trying to attract the simpler mexican selling churros, not the ones selling coke that you're used to.

[Anonymous No.50673982]

>>50673012
Good thing you got into privacy, you may also check with RAIL as it isnt token gated, meaning you dont have to hold the token to have access to privacy on its platform.

[Anonymous No.50674004]

>>50668877
Wtf fuck is that hip to shoulder ratio, and dear god can you pick a worse shadow setting. Let me guess you were setting up Koikatsu by mashing you dick over the keyboard. Go back to /h/ you filthy weeb.

[Anonymous No.50674038]

>>50664909
>>50673189
someone needs to make this happen

[Anonymous No.50675234]

Finally got the main menu worked out for monero place, will upload it tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.50676724]

[Anonymous No.50677194]

>>50675234
Nice.

[Anonymous No.50677738]

>>50675234
gorgeous

[Anonymous No.50678033]

>>50669527
Cheers mate, 2nd point is definitely something I haven't thought of.

[Anonymous No.50678618]

[Hodlin Caulfield No.50678708]

bump

[Anonymous No.50679024]

When do you think xmr is going to hit one mil transactions per month?
July was close.

[Hodlin Caulfield No.50679339]

>>50679024
i really did think it was going to surpass 1mill this month
maybe august if the trend keeps up

[Anonymous No.50679874]

>>50668877
you're gonna share the card when you're done? ....right anon?

[Anonymous No.50681030]

>>50679874
Sure, just send me some xmr, and I'll send the card to you. It's gonna take a while, though, I'm too lazy...

[Anonymous No.50681162]

>>50679024
Probably August. If not August, then September. It's only a matter of time.

[Anonymous No.50681234]

Dropping in and announcing again (01. Aug. 22):

Introducing piconeroj.eu - An XMR/WOW P2P marketplace.

Following the philosophy of Agorism the site tries to fill the gap of an easy to access P2P market on the clear web. This does not require an account or registration. The site, in principle, is a glorified image board with Advertisements instead of Threads with a spirit of Craig's list.

The site does not require cookies or JS to use and is accessible via VPN or TOR. We are currently in alpha state and is in need to people to test out their buy/sell ads.

In order to prevent abuse and maintain a high quality Adverts will be manually screened by the moderators. Therefore expect a delay of a few hours for your adverts to show up.

Have fun, post ads and try to break things - The site is in alpha stage and requires bugs to be caught and crushed.

[Merkato Anon No.50681253]

Do you have any suggestions on how to prevent gore and CP posts without
1. captcha
2. blocking VPN/Tor usage
3. User accounts
Short of using a Neural Net to filter out posts not apt to this marketplace?

[Anonymous No.50681275]

MINEXMR BROS, DID WE GET TOO COCKY??

[Anonymous No.50681389]

>>50681275
Lots of respect if they're doing that to protect the network.

[Anonymous No.50681428]

>>50681275
maxifag, that is a good thing. do you even

[Anonymous No.50681620]

>>50681253
what's wrong with captcha? 4chan's current captcha works pretty well.

[Merkato Anon No.50681655]

>>50681620
I wanted to say gcaptcha.
Simple captchas cannot prevent spam posts or ban the user for gore/cp posts.

[Merkato Anon No.50681678]

>>50681253
>1. captcha
I wanted to say gcaptcha here
Normal captchas cannot trace IP and hence cannot IP ban CP posters on VPN or Tor

[Anonymous No.50681680]

>>50681655
The only way to prevent gore/cp is active moderation. But that doesn't mean every post has to be pre-approved. The site is slow enough that jannies can act quickly.

[Anonymous No.50681704]

>>50681655
Hcaptcha is better.
You could also limit images to three per IP on a rolling timer.

[Merkato Anon No.50681779]

>>50681680
>The site is slow enough that jannies can act quickly.
There are no jannies. Yet.
>>50681704
> You could also limit images to three per IP on a rolling timer.
This would not serve the purpose because even the first image could be CP.

Even 30 seconds are enough for a glowie to post a CP before mods take it down and in the meanwhile crawl the site really quick so that the eternity will know that there once was a CP on piconeroj.eu!

That is something that should not happen at any costs!

[Anonymous No.50681830]

>>50681779
Then host the site on tor or zeronet. Glowies will always glow.

[Merkato Anon No.50681872]

>>50681830
>Then host the site on tor or zeronet.
The aim of this site is to encourage normies to get used to monero Tor and Zeronet already have a steeper curve.

[Anonymous No.50681882]

>>50681253
doesn't 4chon do this by filtering out images by hash?

[Anonymous No.50681901]

A compromise would be to only require pre-approval for posts that contain images. Text-only posts can hardly break the law... right?

[Merkato Anon No.50681908]

>>50681882
>doesn't 4chon do this by filtering out images by hash?
We do not have the resources or manpower of 4chan..

Think of piconeroj.eu as a mom-and-pop store instead of Walmart.

[Merkato Anon No.50681935]

>>50681901
>Text-only posts can hardly break the law... right?
Yea I tried that.
Some nigger posted death to jannies 500 times.
Moreover, Text only posts can link CP too.

[Anonymous No.50682011]

>>50681935
You're overthinking it my nigga. Just add a fucking disclaimer that user text and images aren't your responsibility.
Otherwise you're just gonna have to approve/filter everything manually. A quick and easy trick is to make users use an external image host so that none of this shit is your mess.

[Anonymous No.50682012]

>>50681935
Moderating every single post seems like way more work than only moderating posts that get reported.

[Merkato Anon No.50682069]

>>50682011
>You're overthinking it my nigga. Just add a fucking disclaimer that user text and images aren't your responsibility.
That is not for EU laws work.
What is on YOUR site is YOUR responsibility - unless you are tracking the IPs of the posters.

> Otherwise you're just gonna have to approve/filter everything manually
That is the plan and I have made peace with it.
When the site hits a critical mass I would ask around (amon people I know on Matrix) if someone can help me moderate it.

> A quick and easy trick is to make users use an external image host so that none of this shit is your mess.
That is a privacy nightmare. I do not want a SINGLE bit of data linking the site and the user let alone a third party.

> You're overthinking it my nigga.
Then so be it. Better safe than sorry. 'Ppreciate your suggestions though.

[Merkato Anon No.50682095]

>>50682012
>moderating posts that get reported.
What do betwee the time a CP gets posted and it gets reported? some glownigger can crawl it and use it as evidence if it comes to that.
The manually approving part will most likely not be changed.

[Anonymous No.50682103]

>>50682069
I respect that you are trying to run a legitimate clearnet business, but understand the EU is going to come for your asshole regardless.
>You are already v&

[Anonymous No.50682113]

>>50682069
You'll never make it if you keep complying with unreasonable laws. Get a domain outside the eu and host the site in a third world country.

[Anonymous No.50682155]

>>50682113
>You'll never make it if you keep complying with unreasonable laws.

A CHALLENGER APPEARS

[Merkato Anon No.50682165]

>>50682113
>You'll never make it if you keep complying with unreasonable laws
I will not go against the law.
It is wise for one to debate the unreasonability with the masses who obey than a single one who has tweaked an image board into a craig's list.
The 'manually approving adverts'f part of the policy will not be debated. But I ppreciate the suggestions.

[Anonymous No.50682176]

>>50682155
z-cash is literally a fed xmr competitor, obviously he gets gloved treatment.

[Merkato Anon No.50682179]

>>50682155
Kektimus prime

[Anonymous No.50682354]

>MineXMR announces they're closing pool several days ago
>pools hashrate has not moved, in fact it's gone up slightly
We are going to belly flop fucking HARD if we can't get word to these retards.

[Anonymous No.50682390]

>>50682165
>It is wise for one to debate the unreasonability with the masses who obey
Have the past two years taught you nothing?
The masses that willingly obey will only complain, but not resist, unreasonable laws.
Your project will never get off the ground with this mentality.
I know you want to be squeaky clean, but this is not possible if the definition of squeaky clean is pushed further and further into impossibility, like asking for one to be bathed in the milk of virgin cows.
I still wish you luck.

[Anonymous No.50682404]

>>50673012
DNM bible

[Anonymous No.50682443]

>>50681908
i thought that style of filtering was simple to do since /gif/ters do it to filter certain posters

>>50682011
>A quick and easy trick is to make users use an external image host so that none of this shit is your mess.
assuming that the image host is also on tor/some other network this could work.

>>50682069
>That is a privacy nightmare. I do not want a SINGLE bit of data linking the site and the user let alone a third party.
this isn't possible if you're trying to onboard normies. best you can do is give the anons who can protect their data the tools to do so

[Merkato Anon No.50682445]

>>50682390
>Your project will never get off the ground with this mentality.
Then so be it.
> I know you want to be squeaky clean, but this is not possible if the definition of squeaky clean is pushed further and further into impossibility, like asking for one to be bathed in the milk of virgin cows.
Then so be it. I skirt in real life, but not with the online one.
> I still wish you luck.
Thank you so much :)

[Merkato Anon No.50682474]

>>50682443
>to filter certain posters
No IP is tracked by Piconeroj.eu
So hydra effect will be at play with any filtering.

If the project flies then well and good, if not it is well and good.

No IP tracking, No captcha, Tor/VPN posting and manual approval of adverts is the soul of piconeroj.eu

As I said, If the project flies then well and good, if not it is well and good.

[Anonymous No.50682538]

>>50682474
by certain posters i meant BBC posters. they just do it user side through 4chanX; i figured there was a way to do it client side just as simply but i guess not

[Anonymous No.50682560]

>>50682538
>client side
*server side

[Anonymous No.50682612]

>>50682069
>That is not for EU laws work.
>What is on YOUR site is YOUR responsibility - unless you are tracking the IPs of the posters.
Maybe try looking into the Electronic Commerce Directive 2000
>Under this article, the hosting provider is not liable for the information stored at the request of a recipient of the service
And you would have to remove illegal content upon seeing it and do not engage in illegal conduct, etc...

[Merkato Anon No.50682695]

>>50682612
>Maybe try looking into the Electronic Commerce Directive 2000
>And you would have to remove illegal content upon seeing it and do not engage in illegal conduct, etc...
Thank you for your input. Laws are not meant to protect the individual from the collective/authority but the other way round.
The policy of 'manual approval' will be kept as a core of piconeroj.eu

[Merkato Anon No.50682820]

>>50673901
>I think piconeroj is trying to attract the simpler mexican selling churros, not the ones selling coke that you're used to.

FOOKIN KEK.. YES THAT IS SPOT ON.

[Merkato Anon No.50682844]

>>50669890
Thanks for the feedback, rules are a WIP as of yet.

[Anonymous No.50683280]

>>50682354
It's botnet pool.
You have to get access to those devices again to change it.

[Anonymous No.50683393]

>>50683280
>You have to get access to those devices again to change it.
That depends on the way it way deployed, some of it might have been deployed through a malicious batch with a static config, some of it might have been deployed as a module of a persistent malware. This kind of stuff really depends. But don't be surprised if Monero's hashrate will dip by 15-35% instead start mining on the 12th of August both strengthening the network and making a quick buck.

[Anonymous No.50683674]

>>50683393
I'm already mining in p2pool.

[Anonymous No.50684789]

>>50683280
>>50683393
it does depend on deployment, but given the fact that raising fees barely did anything to deter hashers, a staticly-coded pool in some malware is certainly possible.
it will be interesting to see what happens after the shut down. either way, I think it's a net-gain for monero.

[Anonymous No.50685018]

Reminder that only Zcash can keep you safe, Monero runs on obsolete tech. Google zero knowledge proofs.

[Anonymous No.50685168]

>>50685018

Monero also uses ZKPs, imbecile. And not the ones running on incomprehensible moon math either.

Say hi to the FBI for me.

[Anonymous No.50685241]

>>50684789
>it will be interesting to see what happens after the shut down. either way, I think it's a net-gain for monero.
It also changes the market dynamics for malware authors. Imagine malware that mines to p2pool.

[DM !SMw768gQ3k No.50685314]

>>50663419
Other than buying a few hundred dollars in Bitcoin back in 2021 during the Bitcoin craze, (probably only worth like $50 now because I haven't touched it since), I really don't know jack shit about cryptocurrency, especially monero. Why should I use monero instead of Bitcoin or USDC? How is this one more private than the others? If I sell commissions online and my customer wants to pay me in cryptocurrency, why should he use monero over bitcoin? Why should I accept monero over bitcoin? I know Bitcoin is less private than monero because all of your shit can be looked up if they know your wallet address but aren't people able to make multiple addresses? Why not just make two and keep one for my daily leisurely shit and the other for my service so it's not linked directly to me personally? If my understanding is lacking please correct me

[Anonymous No.50685796]

>>50685241
>It also changes the market dynamics for malware authors. Imagine malware that mines to p2pool
This.
There is a risk if ever 51% of the hasrate were p2p bots. We would be unable to update xmr any more like btc, without a hard fork. Which could be a good thing for a while anyway

[Anonymous No.50685914]

>>50685314
Lurk more.
Just look at the transaction cost of xmr and btc and see which you prefer for #1.
Its super hard to get btc without kyc anyway and how will you transfer funds from wallets, all of them will get tainted anyway as time goes on.
3# you can be given dirty bitcoin/duct attacked and could be linkes to crime, thats why money neesa to be private in general.
4# you dont control the network, the btc mining cirpos could at any moment do anything, like add a dev rax or whatever. With xmr any miner gets to vote and you mime with a regular cpu.

[Anonymous No.50686049]

>>50665954
nakadashi

[Anonymous No.50686200]

>>50685314
>Why should I use monero instead of Bitcoin or USDC? How is this one more private than the others?
every other currency either can be traced, or uses cryptography that can't guarantee to a reasonably high extent that it can't be traced

>If I sell commissions online and my customer wants to pay me in cryptocurrency, why should he use monero over bitcoin? Why should I accept monero over bitcoin?
because sellers/buyers can see your balance, along with who you've done business with when using just about any other cryptocurrency. with monero this isn't an issue

>I know Bitcoin is less private than monero because all of your shit can be looked up if they know your wallet address but aren't people able to make multiple addresses? Why not just make two and keep one for my daily leisurely shit and the other for my service so it's not linked directly to me personally?
because even if you have seperate wallets you leak enough metadata that it can be traced back to you. example

>sell 400 GB stash of cheese pizza for 1 BTC and place in wallet A
>sell 2 actual cheese pizzas at your day job for 0.0001 BTC and place in wallet B

if you only use wallet B for spending you might be alright, but the second you try to spend funds in wallet A, it will be known that you were selling cheese pizza while you were selling cheese pizza to anyone monitoring the blockchain. furthermore, if you fuck up your opsec while accepting funds to wallet A, or the person you sold to gets caught and rats you out, you'll get found out anyway.

[DM !SMw768gQ3k No.50686552]

>>50686200
Interesting. How do these guys even look up transactions in the first place? If there's some website or server after connect to in order to view and index that type of stuff? I don't believe services like coinbase, gemini, kraken, etc, have any blockchain search functions like this but I could be wrong

[Anonymous No.50686699]

>>50685314
See this playlist, it explains all of what you're asking:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjcdqeczGS7qt5h_pmQNFVgD62bVPLfVA

[Anonymous No.50687106]

>>50686552
https://www.blockchain.com/explorer

and that's just free stuff. imagine what corporations and govs have

[Anonymous No.50687160]

>>50686552
there are many companies with the sole business model of tracing coins and deciding whos coins are "dirty".

see picrel

[Anonymous No.50688365]

>>50681779
Posts that contain an image get moderated on picomoneroj before they get published.
So it will get hard to post CP for the trolls.
To release mine took them almost 10 hours.

[Anonymous No.50688654]

>>50663549
The fact that this is backed by corporate startup types means it is a fucking scam, and goes against the cypherpunk spirit.

[Anonymous No.50688714]

>>50683393
Mining P2Pool Mini Monero GUI
I just passed 1 Euro worth of XMR after 30 days from the first payout. The first week i startet mining, i had no payout at all.
Would be nice to have a little more though. But at a hashrate of 1150 H/s it is as it is.

I'm not doing it for profits but regarding to the electricity cost that is going wild here, it would be nice with a little more and often payouts to at least get something back of what i burned.

But i at least support the network. And this will be well needed seen to the currently risen hashrate of MineXMR.
Time will tell how things play out on august 13th.

[Anonymous No.50688738]

>>50665671
>Will survive regulation because it puts in the back door for Uncle Sam thereby defeating our entire purpose in the beginning

Illegalmax or bust. Fuck institutions btw, and (((investors))).

[Anonymous No.50688761]

>>50685796
Oooof. Anon, i never thought this way. Sounds spooky.

[Anonymous No.50688970]

>>50685796
I'm confused. I thought hard forks to update was already the case. I'm not too familiar with bots but don't they keep their software updated with cronjobs or something?

[Anonymous No.50689206]

>>50685241
>>50685796
Very interesting point, can p2pool be changed in any way to mitigate this ahead of time?

[Anonymous No.50689607]

>>50685241
>Imagine malware that mines to p2pool.
>>50685796
>There is a risk if ever 51% of the hasrate were p2p bots. We would be unable to update xmr any more like btc, without a hard fork.
Can you point out the problem I'm missing here? Monero already hardforks, just not as consistently as it used too. 51% on p2pool is the best possible decentralization and security against attacks. Malware doesn't seem that much of an issue if it's on p2pool.

[Anonymous No.50690360]

[Anonymous No.50691252]

[Anonymous No.50691620]

>>50691252
Monero needs same precautions: you can't withdraw from an exchange and then immediately transfer to somebody due to AEA attacks.

[Anonymous No.50692497]

You guys think most of the "wealth" will be stored on monero blockchain instead of bitcoin's 10-20 years from now? Hot take but I see bitcoin a bigger threat to the top .001 percent or whatever the hell groups of people with deepest portfolios with wealth too big to break down in some simple charts for us to comprehend. Rough guess but banks are above wall street, monarchies are above banks, and above monarchies are old old money with offshore accounts think city of london and untouchable places like jersey. Bitcoin's public ledger is a very real threat if you want to do things with your power, an analysis company could blackmail you or attempt to spread negative press about you if we put everything on some public ledger. Ironically I see monero as a gentlemens agreement between plebs and the top of the pyramid rich. Status quo stays the same kind of and everyone gets a bit of a power to themselves. Rest of blockchain technologies/coins might as well be investment junk toys and distractions.

[Anonymous No.50692518]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YgFDZNXPyg&t=2809s

real interesting watch. Spooky a bit.

[Anonymous No.50693234]

>>50692497
Most blockchains are public ledgers and almost all of them are better than BTC. BTC is a joke.
Use litecoin, btc cash, eth or any other smart contract one. BTC LMAO.
Also they will make CBDS and have fiat now. Its super sus that they pumped BTC at all.

fuck you, kys. its from the heart

[Anonymous No.50693396]

>>50681872
Normies would be less inclined to use an imageboard site to buy and sell stuff.

[Anonymous No.50693550]

>>50681253
>Do you have any suggestions on how to prevent gore and CP posts
You could block VPN/Tor users from posting images, that solves the problem of you hosting CP/Gore.
You should also consider making a service wherein:
Someone donate the equivalent of the price of a coffee to you in XMR, you let me post images, and if that person posts CP/Gore, then you revoke that user's ability to post on your website.
Can this be circumvented?
Yes, but it would be rather expensive to keep paying some site owner XMR everytime you intend to post illicit content.
it's like what some paid games do where they ban you for cheating, and you have to pay to play again, this disincentivizes cheating, by filtering those too poor to continue to cheat, and those who are rich enough to continue can be dealt with by a smaller team than what you would need if you just let VPN/Tor users do as they please.
TL;DR
>Let me pay you XMR to post images in Tor

[Anonymous No.50693571]

>>50693550
>Someone donate the equivalent of the price of a coffee to you in XMR, you let me post images
I meant the person who pays you*

[Anonymous No.50693879]

why do retards keep using BTC when monero exists? serious question. do normies not care about being tracked and taxed? who the fuck are the retards who keep buying BTC as investment??? did literally nobody see what happened to the candian truckers?????????

[Nikocado No.50693893]

>>50693879
Crypto markets aren't exactly run on logic

[Anonymous No.50693945]

>>50693893
it just seems like anyone who does 5 minutes of research on google will immediately realize BTC is not what they thought it was, and actually monero is what they thought BTC was (an actual cryptocurrency)

[Anonymous No.50693966]

>>50693879
>do normies not care about being tracked and taxed?
buddy please, tell me, if you walk out of your house right now, what will you be carrying in your pocket?

[Anonymous No.50693969]

>>50693945
>anyone who does 5 minutes of research on google will immediately realize BTC is not what they thought it was
Look at this guy using common sense.
Crypto is not for people like you.
You have to buy the latest animal coin or smart contract coin. Only then you are going to make to the MOOOOOOON.

[Nikocado No.50693972]

>>50693945
If you look at all places BTC has it's roots in (DNMs) they're moving to monero at a high rate. When organized crime picks up on private money that's easily moved in vast amounts shit's going to happen. Or some better privacy coin comes along but for now it seems monero is gaining momentum and has a very healthy legal and illegal community, much like real money.

[Anonymous No.50694011]

>>50693966
a s&w 38 and my wallet, because im not a zoomer faggot. sometimes a roll of lifesavers, and a few kleenexes if its spring or winter.

[Anonymous No.50694041]

>>50693972
>DNM
im not familiar with that acronym but im going to guess from your post dark network market? the only use case for BTC beating monero would be if some technology comes out that enables it to be privatized somehow. im talking not coinjoin but something that legitimately turns it private. but i dont understand how that would be possible given its open and public ledger. so unless BTC has a protocol update to turn private and encrypted (which is possible i guess) there doesnt seem to be a use case for it. as middle class gets squeezed tighter for taxation (theft) people will start to quickly realize the value of keeping the kikes out of your wallet

[Anonymous No.50694094]

>>50694041
>as middle class gets squeezed tighter for taxation (theft) people will start to quickly realize the value of keeping the kikes out of your wallet
We are heading for the future where you will own nothing(they will) and be happy. If you own nothing, there is nothing to hide.
Why would I care if people know how much Netflix costs me?
How much tesla charges me monthly?
How much apartment costs me monthly?
I hate it but this is the current trend, zoomers have literally no money and kikes with billions are not giving cent away.
I don't see society culling these thieves but oh no you both weed you are criminal

[Anonymous No.50694150]

>>50694094
In order to make a great reset possible, they have to crash the economy through inflation. Most people that own their houses, will not own them in like 5 years from now. No matter if it is paid off or not.
They will raise taxes and living cost to an extent you aren't able to pay the fees and taxes anymore and that's where they will come for your property.

If that's the moment NPC wakes up, i don't know, but this is what they have planned for us.
Vaxxing us to death is obviously not enough for them.

[Anonymous No.50694152]

>>50694094
they are the ones pushing weed. they want people drugged up and lazy and mellow. imagine trying to explain to a pothead how the kleptocracy technocratic kikestate works

[Nikocado No.50694161]

>>50694041
BTC is reliant on exchanges and thus government approval which is why I very much doubt the BTC community would ever accept Monero like features in their codebase.
I case of shit economy and tax squeeze southern Europe is a great example as tax fraud is basically required for some businesses to operate, that's what I've heard from a greek dude at least. In the future we need tax fraud and we need something to give farmers in exchange for contraband meat products, this is why I like Monero as it seems like a natural usecase.

[Anonymous No.50694170]

>>50694152
You either won't make a boomer understand this that never touched weed.
They are so stupid.

[Anonymous No.50694204]

>>50694161
exactly my thinking and why most of my crypto is in monero probably, if i owned any. but im always looking at competitors because diversification is good too. i looked hard at RAIL but i dont know how it will scale. even monero seems questionable at scale, we havent really seen huge demand in transactions on it yet. it takes longer than BTC to clear sometimes and the network is way less congested

[Anonymous No.50694249]

>>50694204
Monero seems to have much better scalability from it's variable block size, we're at 13% of BTC's monthly transactions and our fees are basically zero. L2 solutions might become necessary at some point but who knows what will happen.

[Anonymous No.50694675]

is this a good time to accumulate more xmr or should i wait a month to see if we dip down to $100ish again

[Anonymous No.50695771]

>>50694675
nobody knows lmao
dca slowly and buy big if/when we dip

[Merkato Anon No.50695860]

Dropping in and announcing again: (Aug 2nd)

Introducing piconeroj.eu - An XMR/WOW P2P marketplace.

Following the philosophy of Agorism the site tries to fill the gap of an easy to access P2P market on the clear web. This does not require an account or registration. The site, in principle, is a glorified image board with Advertisements instead of Threads with a spirit of Craig's list.

The site does not require cookies or JS to use and is accessible via VPN or TOR. We are currently in alpha state and is in need to people to test out their buy/sell ads.

In order to prevent abuse and maintain a high quality Adverts will be manually screened by the moderators. Therefore expect a delay of a few hours for your adverts to show up.

Have fun, post ads and try to break things - The site is in alpha stage and requires bugs to be caught and crushed.

[Anonymous No.50697504]

[Anonymous No.50697670]

>>50691620
this is why i wont buy XMR. if i cant be immediately private as soon as it hits my wallet all the way to cash then i see no point for it.
>just dont buy it on a kyc exchange
yeah i wont buy it.

[Anonymous No.50698203]

>>50697670
so you don't buy any crypto?

[Anonymous No.50698487]

>>50697670
Other man will be fucking your wife as well if a little effort is so taxing on you

[Anonymous No.50699025]

>>50697670
There is no such thing as perfect privacy you retard lol

[Anonymous No.50699087]

>>50697670
>yeah i wont buy it.

Promise?

[Anonymous No.50699960]

>>50697670
The exchange wallet is not "your" wallet. Withdraw first then spend. Kills 90% of the already very slim attack surface

[Anonymous No.50700271]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzDtmMXJ1B4

[Anonymous No.50700703]

>>50663419
does someone have the "poompa poompa bang bang" image?
thanks in advance, frens

[Anonymous No.50700754]

>>50697670
just buy it from someone else who doesnt care about super super privacy and does KYC for their own stack then sells for a slight premium to retards like you.

[Anonymous No.50700817]

>>50700703
The original or this one?

[Anonymous No.50700920]

>>50700703
Either way, here you go

[Anonymous No.50701082]

>>50700920
thanks so much, fren

[Anonymous No.50701302]

based thread

[Anonymous No.50701435]

Looking forward to the Phase 2 of the NEVM where Syscon will introduce zkrollups to the platform. And this will not only bring NEVM speeds up to over 200,000 transactions per second; far beyond what is theorized for ethereum 2.0, but will also allow projects built atop the syscon platform to institute zero fees within their applications.

[Anonymous No.50702397]

>>50693966
>buddy please, tell me, if you walk out of your house right now, what will you be carrying in your pocket?
my phone inside of a faraday cage bag
and you?

[Anonymous No.50703365]

[Anonymous No.50703875]

bomp

[Anonymous No.50704003]

I was mining on suportxmr. Now that I got over the minimum threshold I can get my xmr out of there.
I found out that I can mine on p2pool using the monero gui, but when I try to install I get a error, and it asks to run as administrator.
So when I run monero-gui as root the daemon starts to sync from the beginning. Is that suppose to happen?

[Anonymous No.50704344]

>>50702397
Just turn on airplane mode

[Anonymous No.50705371]

>>50704344
just pull the battery

[Anonymous No.50705577]

>>50681935
>Some nigger posted death to jannies 500 times.
Based

[Anonymous No.50705876]

>>50694675
>Dca softer above 0.0065 sats
>Dca harder below 0.0055 sats

Simple as

[Anonymous No.50705894]

REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL MINI
>REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL MINI
REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL MINI
>REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL MINI

Here is a tutorial to mine on P2Pool Mini with windows -> https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/4mnm3

Everything should be explained from the beggining. Everyone should be able to mine after reading this. Appart from blockchain synching it takes 5 minutes max to set it up. I've included a very simple batch script to make it easier to launch once everything is set up (1-click).
If you think of any way to make it better please tell me. And you can share it or post it on reddit etc...

>>50704003
not supposed to happen. Make sure the blockchain is already in you Monero GUI folder (C:\ProgramData\bitmonero\lmdb)
You can also use the tutorial just above

[Anonymous No.50706382]

>>50691620
it's not like wallets let you spend it before you have a good enough anonymity set.

[Anonymous No.50706749]

>p2pool can secure the chain against 51% attacks
Is that actually true? Let's say p2pool has 51% hashrate. And we have an attacker that controls some 51% of the network. What enforces p2pool correctness? Can't an attacker perform a 51% attack on p2pool? Is it possible to mine on "malicious" p2pool software where, if the pool finds a block, it's going to be a malicious one crafted by you?

I'm not sure how p2pool works but it seems extremely counter-intuitive to me that you could have byzantine consensus that's resistant to 51% attacks. If some entity A controls 51% of the hashrate and some entity B controls 49%, what mechanism could you possibly use to decide "no, A is malicious and B's chain is the correct one" despite A having more hashpower?

[Anonymous No.50707407]

>>50706749
>I'm not sure how p2pool works
We can see that.

[Anonymous No.50707674]

>>50705371
oh right, you can't.

[Anonymous No.50707692]

>>50702397
Are there some good guides to creating a discreet faraday cage pouch? I don't want to look like a total whacko wrapping my phone in aluminium foil whenever I'm not using my phone.

[Anonymous No.50707960]

>>50707407
then explain pls

[Hodlin Caulfield No.50708102]

>>50707960
>https://www.getmonero.org/2021/10/05/p2pool-released.html
original implementation for bitcoin from 2011
>https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool
github
>https://github.com/SChernykh/p2pool/releases

[Anonymous No.50708524]

>>50707692
Literally just turn on airplane mode when you're not using it, my guy. It prevents your phone from connecting to any wireless signal all the same.
The only reason to have a faraday cage is if you're afraid it's been physically compromised and airplane mode has been disabled, but at that point, whoever is surveiling you has got you anyways.

[Anonymous No.50709556]

>>50708524
new yorker detected

[Anonymous No.50710275]

gm yurop

[Anonymous No.50710773]

>>50663419
I'm making a videogame that isn't politically correct. how do I accept Monero payments for it?

[Anonymous No.50710908]

>>50710773

I think there are some payment solutions out there I think, but in general you'd just want to generate a bunch of addresses and serve up an unused address via email. If that address receives sufficient funds, email them back a key to play the game. Can't be too hard to automate, but you could even do it manually at first since I assume it'd be a pretty niche release to get started.

I've been thinking about this a lot lately, not just "free speech" games but LOTS of indie projects go completely overlooked. I'd love to see a Monero "Humble Bundle" site put together where we could reach out to underserved devs with cool games and help them take Monero for their art.

If anyone is interested in discussing this further, reach me at: [e-mail]

[Anonymous No.50710938]

>>50694011
Based choice of pistol sir

[Anonymous No.50711876]

FBI released official list of based symbols

[Anonymous No.50711887]

>>50711876

[Anonymous No.50711996]

>>50711876
>>50711887
My own government hates me and the people who believe as I do and the founders of this country did.

We are being run by a hostile power

[Anonymous No.50712060]

>>50711876
>electrical resistance symbol
lmao schematics are now hate collages

[Anonymous No.50712677]

>>50710908
This sounds like a cool idea.

[Anonymous No.50713313]

[Anonymous No.50713463]

>>50707960
P2pool can protect against 51% attacks made by pool operators as there is none. You trust the code instead of the pool admin. It does not eliminate the risk of a 51% attack by a single miner.

[Anonymous No.50713475]

>>50707692
>>50708524
Faraday cage has to be grounded to work properly. A simple metal covering isn't enough.

[Anonymous No.50713581]

>>50713463
Right, that makes a lot of sense than something like >>50644053

[Anonymous No.50713792]

>>50708524
air plane mode is a honeypot, it tracks usage even more, the phone can even heat up occasionally lmao.

you either have to skip using smart devices all-together or use something like a pine-phone. where you can physically disconnect you mic, camera, modem etc.

[Anonymous No.50713804]

>>50711876
>violent

[Anonymous No.50713844]

>>50713792
A degoogled phone would be your best bet.

[Anonymous No.50713869]

>>50713844
Calyx OS on Google pixel if you want civil privacy.

but either no smart phone at all or pine phone if minecraft level privacy is needed

[Anonymous No.50714012]

>>50713869
>on Google pixel
lmao

[Anonymous No.50714129]

>>50714012
lmao what. Will the carbon atoms in the google logo on the case transmit your furry folder to the NSA?
all phones have a hidden chip probably anyway.

If you want the advantages of a smart phone, with high levels of privacy calyx OS is the only option, without being ass raped by a pine phone.

The only other option is to use nothing. So your point is what exactly Tyrone?

[Anonymous No.50714137]

>>50710773
Try ghostnet.id
Though sometimes they don't accept some stuff

[Anonymous No.50715306]

[Anonymous No.50715891]

Anyone know any monero marketplaces for actually innocuous stuff? I'm wondering if I can list a shitbox anywhere and ask for XMR. I remember Openbazaar was apparently going to do XMR stuff but it's pretty dead last I checked it, and I don't know how to program hardly at all, definitely not enough to make XMRBazaar

[Anonymous No.50715948]

>>50699025
That's probably because you are yet to see how Railgun works.

[Anonymous No.50715984]

>>50694675
You, in the next month

[Anonymous No.50716034]

>>50694249
>L2 solutions might become necessary at some point but who knows what will happen.
There is a reason why decentralised L1 privacy solutions are preferred compared to L2 centralised ones of which of one of the key elements is security.

[Anonymous No.50716601]

>>50715891
>Anyone know any monero marketplaces for actually innocuous stuff?

https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://moneromarket.io/

[Anonymous No.50716810]

>>50716601
Thanks Anon

[Anonymous No.50717131]

>>50693550
Monteith's
>no homo

[Anonymous No.50718608]

>>50716034
Railgun > Aztec

[Anonymous No.50719480]

>>50718608
>>50715948

https://youtu.be/afkN9H9aLow

[Anonymous No.50719864]

[Anonymous No.50720037]

>>50719864
so fvcking zased...

[Anonymous No.50720776]

>>50698203
nigger
>>50698487
nigger
>>50699025
nigger
>>50699087
nigger
>>50699960
nigger
>>50700754
nigger

[Anonymous No.50720827]

>>50720776
>i-im not a bot i swear

[Anonymous No.50722001]

[Anonymous No.50722117]

So, I thought about it a bit. XMR is the majority of my crypto because I believe in it's utility and sometimes I use it. But is the possibility of it mooning is pretty slim - the average normie is not into DNM, drugs or privacy. They simply don't give a shit. The even feel those things are bad, so if they learn about XMR and it's true utility they might even be reluctant to invest. Does this make any kind of sense?

[Anonymous No.50722240]

>>50722117
Doesn't matter what normies think or do.
They don't have money.
Only few people in the world have almost all of the money. These people are not pump and dump moonboys(OK Elon is).
So the question is, will they want to hide some of their money in crypto? If yes then xmr is set.

[Anonymous No.50722631]

>>50719864
I love her so much

[Anonymous No.50722864]

>>50722117
>But is the possibility of it mooning is pretty slim - the average normie is not into DNM, drugs or privacy. They simply don't give a shit.


The likelihood of XMR mooning is unfortunately pretty high for several reasons:

1. Demand from transnational organized crime is only going to increase over time as crime syndicates continue moving into crypto. This equates to *many* billions in USD consistently flowing into XMR, substantial stockpiles need to be built up to provide the liquidity necessary for the big-money transatlantic cocaine deals that are already happening. Pic related.

Then also factor in offshore wealth storage, ransomware piracy and kidnapping-for-crypto into the equation and you got some serious and constant buying pressure.

2. Once this buying pressure organically pushes up the price high enough (likely around $1000), a tipping point is reached where greedy speculators finally realize what's happening and FOMO in like crazy to get in early on what appears to be the Next Big Thing, thereby triggering the long awaited privacy bubble and sending XMR to Mars.

The important thing to realize here is that it is speculation and NOT organic supply and demand that drives up the price in a market as highly irrational as this one, ergo an utterly useless piece of shit like Shiba Inu yielding 45 million % gains, its all just hype and overly-optimistic exuberance becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.

TL;DR: most cryptofags missed out on Bitcoin and are thus chomping at the bit to get in early on the next Bitcoin, they will absolutely FOMO in like rabid apes at the slightest hint of a repeat of the BTC price trajectory. And what other coin fits the "next Bitcoin" bill better than the only coin that is actually replacing Bitcoin in real-world markets?

So just sit back and let real-world market dynamics and human nature take their course

[Anonymous No.50722996]

Ty to the anon who recommended Oracle Cloud Compute free trial. 32GB memory 8 EPYC cores, 300GB storage. Monero 18 compiled / new node up and running.

[Anonymous No.50723298]

>>50722117

Sadly normies only learn through pain and suffering. Some of them will get the message when 'transaction cancelled. monthly carbon credit limit reached; have you considered bugs?' flashes on the screen at the self checkout. Others will get it when they no longer get tax refunds because they made too much money from their dropshipping store, along with a fine for not paying yourself a Living Wage™ after said taxes. Some may never get it and will just be good lemmings to whomever promises them security.

[Anonymous No.50723372]

What is the most anonymous way to buy loads of XMR?

[Anonymous No.50723409]

>>50723372
nice try IRS

[Anonymous No.50723679]

>>50719864
xmr-chan!

[Anonymous No.50723796]

>>50719864
Cute!

[LebAnon No.50724159]

death to fiat bros

[Anonymous No.50725218]

[Anonymous No.50725292]

I’m stacking Monero and hodling it so it can moon and the irs can’t tax me and there is NOTHING you seething pedophiles can do to stop me. I will not spend my Monero, I will not sell my Monero.

[Anonymous No.50725299]

>>50663419
monero has the cutest girls

[Anonymous No.50725530]

>>50693879
Normies don't care and don't know the extent to which they are tracked, bought, and sold.

XMR gaining strength against BTC and the crypto market is hopefully a sign that others are beginning to wake up.

[Anonymous No.50725659]

>>50725530
Monero won't gain widespread adoption just because of privacy. It will gain widespread adoption because of its low fees. The privacy is simply how we are gaining ground in usage because we actual crypto economies (dark net markets, ransomware) dependent on us. This has lead to growth in non illicit markets (eg from people using Monero) and this will continue to happen as more people use Monero and get exposed to it.

[Anonymous No.50725683]

>>50725659
And make me rich (:

[Anonymous No.50725710]

>>50725683
Don't be a moonboy or dream of being one. That's what killed Bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.50725743]

>>50725683
>And make me rich (:

[Anonymous No.50725753]

>>50725710
Kiss my ass nigger
I get in early I get rich when Sicilian mafiosos convince normalfags they’re just like the sopranos if they buy dark net coin (ticker:xmr)
I don’t care about your need to privately consume child pornography or datura
When fascism comes you subhuman lolspergs will be lined up against the wall thankfully anyway

[Anonymous No.50725768]

>>50725753
See >>50725743
you can’t stop me from stacking XMR
You won’t even be able to see when I do it (:

[Anonymous No.50725778]

>>50725753
shows his colors the second he is called out. What a pathetic faggot.

[Anonymous No.50725844]

>>50725778
Check the IDs
My very first post in the thread was that I’m stacking and hodling and never ever spending or selling
You didn’t break some elusive front pedophile
You and I both know for a fact XMR is going to moon like a fucking rocket, and it would be retarded to not buy and stack when you know this is going to happen

[Anonymous No.50725963]

>>50725844
If you don't use Monero you are just another diamond hands faggot that we want nowhere near Monero. We want people to actually learn about p2p cryptocurrency and to create a parallel economy to break away from the neverending fiat scam. The last thing we want is another vehicle for fiat gainz.
I'm not saying stacking Monero is wrong, but your entire attitude is disingenuous and complete faggotry. It's why Bitcoin sucks and is completely cucked by second layer globohomo aspirations. Saying we are a bunch of porn or drug addicts is exactly proving my point. You are demeaning anons who seek freedom from (((them))), and using retarded boomer scare tactics when called out on it. You are either a retarded faggot or a glowie, but unfortunately likely the former.
You have no virtue, spine, or anything worth living for other than making a profit.

[Anonymous No.50725995]

>>50725963
Dc what you want
I’m stacking XMR

[Anonymous No.50726018]

>>50725292
Store of value is a valid use case for monero, but if you're going into it 'for le gains to the moooon!' You're going to get wrecked and more than likely sell before the price rise, or never sell and be stuck in a valuation channel forever.
See: retards that didn't sell their gold/silver in 2012 or retards that didn't sell their bitcoin this past november
>>50725844

[Anonymous No.50726019]

>>50725963
>>50725995
Also stacking XMR. I'm not spending shit bitch I'm saving in literally the only asset that nobody controls but me. Nobody can touch my Monero. Not governments, not courts. Nobody. Nobody even knows I have it. For the first time in my life I truly own something. If that makes me a moonboy then fuck it

[Anonymous No.50726084]

>>50726019
You are misunderstanding. You actually have reasons for stacking XMR and aren't saying "lol we are going to the moon" and "lol drug addicts". I would say your reasons for stacking Monero are sound and not faggotry at all.

[Anonymous No.50726098]

>>50726084
Though that said I do think you should at least get into the habit of using Monero.

[Anonymous No.50726162]

>>50726084
>lol we are going to the moon
We are going to the moon
>lol drug addicts
These are the people that seethe. Junkies afraid hodlchads will disrupt their liquidity and stop the flow of meth into their veins

[Anonymous No.50726368]

can mimblewimble coins like Grin be used for ransoms and other privacy-requiring applications?

everything I read seems to suggest that the privacy is a bit weaker than monero but that mimblewimble still hides addresses and amounts but someone could track input/output links, but I don't know whether that means that someone could track down how a ransom later gets spent and track the ransomer down in practice

[Anonymous No.50726413]

>>50726368
Did you steal some richfag’s dog or something?

[Anonymous No.50726594]

>>50719864
finally, a fucking good post.
(You)

[Anonymous No.50726611]

>>50726368
>an mimblewimble coins like Grin be used for ransoms and other privacy-requiring applications?
Depends on what you mean by "can". The privacy is weaker with no real positive tradeoffs and your personal risk for getting traced is roughly on the same level as using multiple Bitcoin mixers.

So you definitely could, but I don't see any reason why you would want to. Especially if you're going out of your way using an obscure, dying shitcoin.

[Anonymous No.50726614]

>>50722117
I don't care about Monero 'mooooooooooooning'
All I care is about transfering and storing my wealth anonymously...
that's it, there's nothing more, nothing less.

[Anonymous No.50726646]

>>50726413
no, I'm just trying to gauge how likely it is that mimblewimble coins will gain in marketshare and increase in price.

I figure if they can be used for illegal activity but with only a somewhat higher statistical probability of being traced then they might gain some of monero's marketshare.

but if the input/output links make them totally unviable for illegal activity then they probably won't.

[Anonymous No.50726660]

>>50726646
LTC will almost certainly have a nice pump when they have a halvening event right before Bitcoin has one

[Anonymous No.50726680]

>>50719864
Beautiful and based, the hibiscus is a nice touch.
Hanging out at the beach with Monero-chan must be so comfy.

[Anonymous No.50726694]

>>50726611
I assume using bitcoin for ransoms has more steps and drawbacks like >>50691252 alludes to like using mixers making your bitcoin blacklisted

is grin dying? I thought it had 30 active developers. maybe it's just young and early.

[Anonymous No.50726710]

>>50723372
P2P Cash-only Meet-up with your local kingpin drug dealer
-Make sure you aren't being followed
-Absolutely no cellular devices
-Wear non-identifying clothing
-Arrive and wait outside designated meet-up location for exactly 15 minutes
-Before going inside, make sure you check your surroundings again to make sure no one is watching/paying attention to you
-Once you're inside, strip down naked and pat down for recording devices
-Only unmarked bills will be accepted
-Once the transfer is complete, you both shake hands and never see each other ever again.
-Get in your car and drive to an unknown location to park it before walking home.

[Anonymous No.50726724]

>>50726646
I'd argue the long term growth is pretty unlikely. At this point, it is clear that Monero only markets will exist in the future, so what would jumpstart a movement to Mimblewimble only markets? And if there are no mimblewimble only markets (and therefore, no herd of anonymity to hide in) then why would ransomware attackers use mimblewimble?
I don't really have much against the idea of mimblewimble, but it is objectively worse privacy than Monero, and nobody uses it, so I really can't imagine how this would ever shift. It has taken years for Monero to gain favor on the dark net. Maybe a rogue dark net market operator will create a mimble wimble market? I really doubt it though. would be hard to get people to use it.

[Anonymous No.50726769]

>>50726611
>>50726724
thanks, that makes sense.

[Anonymous No.50726812]

>>50726724
Possible that shit which is legal but relatively embarrassing could find a use case for mimblewimble

[Anonymous No.50728274]

>>50723372
Glowies are not allowed here.

[Anonymous No.50728330]

>>50726614
This. I want an amount of my money in Monero because it's anonymous.

[Anonymous No.50728892]

Daniel Kim is great at making the case for Monero, has he given any more talks since the one on behavioral finance that dispels maxi fud?
https://youtu.be/REC5V7d3pqM

[Anonymous No.50730276]

>>50726614
Have a lot of wealth stored in monero before you marry. Stack alot of wealth into monero. If your wife goes full hoe and divorces you cuz she’s bored. She can’t find your monero stack lol.

[Anonymous No.50731345]

>>50719864
Cute new OC, love it

[Anonymous No.50731524]

>>50664652
Holdan, an sumtimz spending in the space.

[Anonymous No.50731537]

THE MONERO MOON (ISSUE 53) IS OUT NOW!

Grab a coffee or a beer and kick back for a read.

Like, share, subscribe, and spread the word of Monero as it continues to grow and offer unmatched financial privacy.

https://www.themoneromoon.com/p/the-monero-moon-issue-53

[Anonymous No.50731567]

>>50731537
oh good, I'm up early.

[Anonymous No.50731801]

>>50731537
>THE MONERO MOON (ISSUE 53) IS OUT NOW!

[Anonymous No.50732413]

>>50722864
based and blackpilled
>>50722996
Mega based

[Anonymous No.50732503]

Hey guys, been a while! Anything new going on lately?

[Anonymous No.50732681]

>>50663419
>>Non KYC:
>LocalMonero
>Morphtoken
>Bisq
>Kucoin
what am i missing here

[Anonymous No.50732771]

>>50732503
Hydra has been closed down and now Monero seems to be the majority of all Darknet transactions. Also the pool minexmr is closing which is good for decentralization but will likely obliterate hashrate short-term as apparently a lot of people don't have the memo.

[Anonymous No.50732822]

>>50732771
>people
probably a fair bit of botnets as well

[Anonymous No.50733844]

>>50731537
There seems to be a lot of damage control going on regarding haveno's pause in development.
>it's just the ui! backend is still being worked on!
I wonder how long it will be before people finally admit the haveno devs walked off with 750 XMR.

[Anonymous No.50733955]

>>50733844
>haveno devs walked off with 750 XMR
They literally got 0 XMR. Why do people still repeat this FUD?
Do you not know how CCS works?
They completed 0 milestones therefore got 0 XMR.
Once the UI is released and is still shit then you can spew this bullshit.

[Anonymous No.50733960]

>>50668877
is that game good? last time it was looking like dolls with clunky animations during scenes

[Anonymous No.50733988]

https://is2.4chan.org/wsg/1659621494025739.webm

[Anonymous No.50733997]

>>50733960
Dunno, I only use the character poser to make renders, and animations, never played the actual game.

[Anonymous No.50734145]

>>50733955
Apparently you don't know how the CCS works either.
They've been paid out 302 XMR so far.

[Anonymous No.50734972]

>>50734145
Wtf why?
They have 0 milestones done so why are there payouts?

[Anonymous No.50735216]

>>50734972
Reading the proposal it's because they set up some monthly payout scheme.

[Anonymous No.50735734]

If I buy USDT on KuCoin with my debit card on an unverified account, then buy Monero, then send it to my wallet, can that be traced back to me? I’m trying to stack as much of my wealth as possible before the obvious normie fomo that is going to come.

[Anonymous No.50735912]

>>50735734

Your purchase and IP address will be recorded but once you enter the Monero ecosystem and providing you remain there, you're safe.

[Anonymous No.50735939]

>>50735734
Your debit card company could presumably just ask Kucoin what the account associated with that card bought. So you would be traceable as far as
>they know anon has bought Monero
but beyond that they have no way of knowing what you ever did with the money beyond that.

If you want absolute privacy where they can't even know you own Monero, the main methods are cash-by-mail deals on LocalMonero or just mining it.

[Anonymous No.50737077]

[Anonymous No.50737500]

>>50735939
what about if you buy bitcoin on a KYC exchange then exchange some of that bitcoin for monero by atomic swap? Then as far as anyone can see you simply bought some bitcoin then sent some bitcoin to some address, right?

[Anonymous No.50737515]

Reminder that Zcash will bury this relic soon.

ZKP or bust

[Anonymous No.50737709]

>>50737500
>Then as far as anyone can see you simply bought some bitcoin then sent some bitcoin to some address, right?
As far as I'm aware, yes. Not an expert on atomic swaps but any Bitcoin holder with Taproot activated that you atomic swap with will not leave any distinguishing marks on the BTC-side of the exchange (i.e. taproot will make it look like a regular wallet-to-wallet transfer with no trace of an atomic swap occuring).

To my understanding some of the first implementations of atomic swaps managed to jury-rig the swaps for non-taproot nodes, but I haven't kept up to date at all on what everyone's using or what the current status is for them.

[Anonymous No.50737799]

>>50737077
Underappreciated cookie-nero.

[Anonymous No.50737801]

>>50737500

Consider using one of the exchange services on the darknet. Dread has a list.

[Anonymous No.50737952]

when’re we getting rich lads?

[Anonymous No.50738077]

>>50737515
>Reminder that Zcash will bury this relic soon.

Number of Monero-only markets: 8
Number of Zcash-only markets: 0

>ZKP or bust

Are you trannies incapable of understanding that there are more than just one ZKP variant?

[Anonymous No.50738115]

>>50737952
>when’re we getting rich lads?

Next Thursday.

[Anonymous No.50738333]

LN makes this shitcoin obsolete

[Anonymous No.50738374]

>>50738333

Be sure to let us know when the darknet actually starts giving a shit about LN.

[Anonymous No.50738396]

>>50738374

Stay tuned then

[Anonymous No.50738416]

>>50738396

Can't wait!

[Anonymous No.50738455]

NEW THREAD: >>50738446
>NEW THREAD: >>50738446
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[Anonymous No.50738667]

>>50737077
>>50737799
Mom-nero chan

[Anonymous No.50738720]

>>50732681
Use a text app with kucoin. You can withdraw 1 btc a week

[Anonymous No.50739720]

>>50675234
haven't been here in a while
whats this awesome looking project anon?

[Anonymous No.50740618]

>>50738333
How