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Token needed edition.

Community call today:

https://talk.brave.com/WELCOME--TO--THE--WEEKLY_BAT-COMMUNITY_CALL

Also, Brave made HN today. Faggots in the comments as you would expect.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32740396

>> No.51297607

THOTPOSTER where are you?????

>> No.51297697
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51297697

Any of you guys traveled to UAE? I'm thinking about it later this year. Specifically, Fujairah or other smaller cities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPUe9n1_2AM

>> No.51297771

>>51296909
Transparency page still not updated, what the fuck. I can't imagine that's a good thing.

>> No.51297788

>>51297771
They will get to it tonight or tomorrow. Long weekend vibes.

>> No.51298577

>>51297771
They probably lost users again. I can't believe they are growing so slowly.

>> No.51298947

>>51296909
Let the market keep crashing. We already moved up a Mcap spot. BAT is a bear market gainer.

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>>51296909
>Prompt: East Indian man making two dollars a month watching advertisements on the Brave browser

>> No.51299581

It's over.

>> No.51299628

Trans page is updated.

>> No.51299653

>>51299628
Did it even change? Seems like the numbers didn't move.

>> No.51299676

>>51299653
Oh shit, it's down another 2 million. LOL

>> No.51299695

Well that's it, Brave is officially a search engine company now.

>> No.51299809

Rumor is Brendan is leaving Brave to explore a career in virology.

Now we know why the numbers are down. The only number Brendan cares about is the number of respiratory particles that masks block.

>> No.51299831

>>51299695
Yup, this is my takeaway too. I'm okay with this as long as Brave has plans to monetize Search.

>> No.51299905

>>51299831
That’s why I asked about Brave search ads progress on the community call today.

>> No.51299962

>>51299831
>>51299695

Damn, I was hoping they would open their own streaming/video sharing platform since it has the size to support it now.

>> No.51299968

>>51299905
I didn't attend. What did they say? Any updates?

>> No.51300139

>>51299676
It’s over. We’re fucked. I’m sorry batbros I tried

>> No.51300391

>>51300139
It’s not over. They have a fuck ton of users and can raise more VC money if cash is a problem.

>> No.51300450

>>51299452
That's like a year's income for the average Indian tho. He could probably buy 12 sex slaves or a truck with 2 bucks a month over there.

>> No.51300634

>>51300391
Nah dude, they’ve scrap projects every time something gets hard, only to make shit even more complicated with each new endeavor that remains incomplete. They were in better shape before Gemini, before solana, before swap, and even before the wallet. They change like the weather and are never honest about their fuck ups. I’m so sick of it all

>> No.51300870

>>51300634
Every startup changes priorities as they get more information and opportunities. That’s basically my career.

But then we all get to read little bitches on Glassdoor complain that a startup abandoned some project to do something else. Well, duh. Chasing revenue and better opportunities.

Brave search took off and they can deliver way more ads. Self serve was going to require a lot of hand holding and isn’t scalable yet. It’s logical but you dumb faggots are talking about “promises.”

This is a business. We are trying to get a return.

>> No.51301103

>>51299676
>>51300634
Yeah I’m starting to think this is a bust. Held 250k since 2019 and I just don’t see this shit ever doing anything. Doesn’t help morale when threads are a wasteland. At least we had thots and memes before when threads were slow

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>>51301103

Man I wasn't saving my coins from ads to help pay for some Warhammer models when the next spike in price came. Don't think it will ever happen again?

>> No.51301178

>>51301151
Probably nothing major until the next bull run. Hoping we can touch $2 at least so I can dump my bags. I see some Q4 release hopium being posted but being realistic I wouldn’t expect any spike until the next bull.

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Genuinely out of hopium at this point. I could neglect the somewhat dubious tokenomics at play with BAT provided Brave kept snowballing to eclipse Firefox but this just seems fucked. I realize summer is slower, but that's no reason to actively hemorrhage users.

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>>51297607
he left.

>> No.51301987

>>51296909
Big, big news out soon. Honestly anons, I wish I could tell you. A few things over the past few months mentioned here are coming to fruition.

>> No.51301989

>>51300870
>Brave search took off and they can deliver way more ads.
I highly doubt there’s a significant amount of non Brave browser users that are only using Brave search. And why would they? The results aren’t any better than Google or DDG. If anything they’re worse. I’m so annoyed with the constant flip flopping. And if their primary focus is now search, they might as well scrap the wallet, dex, vpn etc. because search users won’t be using any of it.

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>>51301987
Give us some hope
>700k holding 5 years about to abandon ship.

>> No.51303043

>>51301989
Just to put this into context for you, if brave were to launch search ads today theres a strong possibility that the revenue earned in one year would be higher than all previous years combined. The search engine is barely a year old product.

The search engine grew by over 17% last month during a slow month. If they can do an average of 12% a month for the next year they will be half the size of DDG with a complimentary browser. I wont be surprised to see major brave search ads in the coming months. People aren't even getting paid to use the search engine yet kek. Go for the low hanging fruit.

>> No.51303085

the hardest thing for me to hear was that Brave was actually, unironically considering ditching BAT for a new crypto. Can you imagine what a fucking slap in the face that would be? Sounds like it was a legitimate consideration too, so it's probably not even entirely off the table yet

imagine the lawsuits

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>>51303085
Wait when did they say that? Oh there would be a big problem. More than a lawsuit. They would have to have a buy back at ATH price. Only way

>> No.51303170

>>51303085
Yeah I dont think that idea was ever said or even floated.

>>51303137 this and then some.

>> No.51303176

>>51296909
I want to make BATlings with her.

>> No.51303191

>got lods of batt from brave browser
>needs KYC to withdraw
Fuck this.

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>>51301987
What? No way

>> No.51303398

>>51301989
They need more ads. Search will allow them to do that.

Why would they scrap other products that are making them money?

>> No.51303586

>>51303035
>700k
Dear heavens you believe in BAT that much?

>> No.51303645

>>51303586
Some of us here aren’t poors.

>> No.51303709

>>51303645
*sniffle*

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>>51303191
stay true

I'm pretty much out of the crypto game because every exchange demands biometric confirmation of some sort. the glowies are REALLY pushing the bio-identity thing and trying to normalize it as a method of verification.

not me! what should I do with my handful of Ethereum since I'm not going to cash them out on some ZOG'd exchange? money isn't everything, I think I'm just going to abandon the wallet, it only brings temptation. Jesus is enough.

>> No.51305746

luke and the rest of the fat at the company needs to get fired. brendan is not good at business and these incompetent fucks drag the whole thing down they literally have a golden business plan but continuously fail to execute

>> No.51306741

>>51305746
They are only failing because Brendan thinks he’s CCS (Chief Covid Scientist).

>> No.51306772

I occasionally open BAT threads for the qt anime girls.
Will never buy it though, tnn.

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>>51306772
How about this cutie, hun?

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>>51300634
Remember when it was just a browser. Now it's 100 things done poorly. And they cucked when Apple made them stop rewards. Didn't even fight. Or pretend to fight. The strategy was to "wait and see what happens in some other court cases" >fight the big boys!
>"Oh y..yes sir we won't give bat rewards to Apple users. You have every right to do that"
Then they demonetize almost every country preemptively where bat rewards could actually be a thing to help people
>we don't want to get in trouble with any (insert backwards corrupt government)

Cucks. Thought crypto was supposed to push against the soul destroying machine. At least a little. Brave should go rogue. Disband the team. Reform as anonymous team. Allow self-service. Rewards for anyone anywhere. Hooked to your own wallet. Rename to Brave coin The end. We moon and make the news

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>>51296909
> Brave announces they reached over 1 million monthly active users in January 2018 - BAT price $0.85
> https://brave.com/update-brave-browser-and-bat-achievements-in-2017-and-goals-for-2018/
> https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20180108/
> Brave Passes 50 Million Monthly Active Users, Growing 2x for the Fifth Year in a Row - BAT price $0.35
> https://brave.com/2021-recap/

BATTies OFICIALLY got scammed. Brave downloads and usage have no bearing on the token. Glorified Ad Blocker. Token used for money grab gimmick. A small fraction of the users actually turn on ads - people will pay NOT to view ads.

BRAVE users != BAT shitcoin holders

Brave fans:
Love privacy
Hate big tech
Hate ad industry
Hate government
Probably use Linux, free software

BAT fans:
Don't care much about privacy (use public ledger crypto, rationalize KYC)
Love nu-big tech (web3)
Love ad industry (it'll cause BAT to moon)
Love government (regulation and institutional adoption will make BAT moon)
Probably less tendency to use Linux and free software

>> No.51308432

>>51307742
Source?

>> No.51308433
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>>51308412
Low IQ BATTies really believed PEOPLE WHO DOWNLOAD AN AD-BLOCK BROWSER WILL SUDDENLY CHOOSE TO VIEW ADS TO EARN A SHITCOIN THEY HAVE TO JUMP HOOPS THROUGH INCLUDING KYC TO EARN PENNIES. Brave users have zero interest in BAT or crypto.

https://np.reddit.com/r/brave_browser/comments/st71oy/raise_your_hand_if_you_dont_give_a_shit_about/

> Yep, here, at least in the way that I don't care about the BAT rewards. I just think Brave is a good browser and I like to use it.

> do care about crypto, but not the Brave rewards. I have turned off ads. I don't want to make $30 a year by having to see 6 ads an hour.

> Time is my most precious commodity, attention is a close second. As I get older I'm more aware of this, and don't care to pollute my consciousness with ads if I can avoid it.

> I have been using Brave for around three years, never turned on BAT. Not interested in cryptocurrency of any kind.

> I don't give a shit about earning bat.. I give a lot of shit about crypto

> I'll raise TWO hands. Life is too short to spend it closing ads popups for pennies.

> If I could I would disable/strip off any crypto feature from Brave, desu.

> I do care about crypto, just not BAT.

> Yeah, I really wish this sub had forced flairs so I could filter out all the "were my bat??1" posts. Mods, please?

> Don't give a shit about crypto baked into a browser.

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>>51298947
> 5 years of pure, unbridled cope
> muh give it 5 more year, BAT is a 10 year long term investment

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>>51299831
>>51299905
>>51299695
>>51300870
>>51301989
>>51303043
>>51303398
> muh Brave Search
BATTies last dose of hopium. A trillion dollar mega-corp with an unlimited budget, Microsoft which could force itself as the default search engine on retail normies, failed miserably is where a token with basically zero budget is going to succeed. BATTies will continue to get scammed

>> No.51309331

>>51307742
>Thought crypto was supposed to push against the soul destroying machine
They wanna be part of the machine. Apparently they blocked kiwifarms.net because of some hate speech. Never been on the site, but it was brought to my attention today that Brave blocked them.

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>>51309331
Brave didn't block them you fucking moron. It was Cloudflare.

I'm not sure if you're a complete idiot or a liar. Please confirm.

>> No.51309508

I don't get ads anymore even though I have them on

>> No.51311095

>>51296909
I'm pretty sure the hip and leg proportions are wrong in that pic

>> No.51311837

>>51301103
We told you. Over and over we told you. But it was always "nooooooo John Fagoot! gorillions of users! Muh utility!" when the coin is a closed ecosystem and can't be used for shit.

>> No.51312345

>>51311837
Told us what? Company isn't out of business. Eat shit faggot.

>> No.51312694

>>51312345
You really think Brave, a privately held corporation, is ever going to cut you in on their profits, just because you hold a browser token they made for free? Go work for them if you want to get on their hustle. You holding BAT does nothing for them.

>> No.51313126

>>51301987
>Big, big news out soon. Honestly anons, I wish I could tell you. A few things over the past few months mentioned here are coming to fruition.
I don’t think it matters at this point. There’s literally nothing that could pump BAT right now.

>> No.51315684

>>51309331
They pulled UGP grants from them so promotional grants that brave paid for wouldnt be given out to them. If you wanted to send your own money you could.

>> No.51317673

>>51297607
This. Where are the thots? Did we lose one of the few good things we have left in these threads? If TP is gone it’s over.

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>>51317673
Who cares? Brave is hemorrhaging users by the millions and you wanna look at porn nigger?

>> No.51317852

>>51317820
Yes. Yes I do.

>> No.51318127

>>51317852
You sound like your average Brave employee

>> No.51318152

>>51318127
Might explain why nothing ever gets done there.

>> No.51318309

>>51318152
Luke does have a coomer phenotype about him. Super dysgenic. Jennie on the other hand, prime breeding material.

>> No.51318316

>>51317820
its only been two down months after doubling for 5 years and the search is up 27% in those two down months. No reason to be worried yet.

>> No.51319670

>>51318309
Luke has coomed to some of the thots posted in here before, I’d guarantee it.
>>51318316
>le things stay growing and trending forever
Bleeding users and you can no longer use the summer excuse. They ban half the world from getting rewards, Eich is a clueless senile boomer who does nothing but sabotage his own product and tweet about COVID, while FireFox and Edge are taking all their users back.
Let’s see what September looks like.

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>>51313126
Being privacy focused may pump it. There is a major highlight falling on anonymous tools lately, especially when finance is involved.

>> No.51320142

>>51308412
>Don't care much about privacy (use public ledger crypto, rationalize KYC)
Well, there are a good number of privacy enabling protocols that is being explored while trading. Basically, you can shield your on-chain transactions if you know the right tools to use

>> No.51320703

>>51309508
You cookies needs to be cleared or something

>> No.51320714

>>51308412
>Love privacy
Uses Railgun, Monero, Aztec or any other ways to work around the public blockchain ledger.

>> No.51321414

Well at least someone is buying BAT
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x501f9604d4da95aeaa5ef201a38542b74bfc78d1ec65acb07332e7937741dfbc

>> No.51323358

>>51319670
July and August are the worst two months of the year. We have been in September for 7 days so far. If the numbers are down for September then maybe I will be concerned. Search is up fucking bigtime though.

>> No.51323820

BATbros... im starting to think its over

>> No.51327098

>>51323820
its been over for a long time, they had a great idea but eich despite having 200 IQ is not respected in the business at all. no one in the valley like him and hes terrible at business. google, facebook, their founders all had someone else actually strategize and run the business for them. we are stuck with luke, an idealistic boomer s oy normie legacy hire. where is the killer instinct?

the fact that they pivoted to NFTs and AfroDAOs and partnered with solana (lol) instead of doubling down on self-serve or allowing users rewards in the browser without kyc are obvious red flags and massive signs of incompetence

>> No.51327182

>>51321414
literally coinbase moving wallets are u dumb

>> No.51328195

>>51327098
>allowing users rewards in the browser without kyc

How is Brave going to change the law and the SEC?

> the fact that they pivoted to NFTs and AfroDAOs and partnered with solana (lol)

They didn't pivot to that shit. They are doing these things in PARALLEL to the sales process and development of Brave search and the platform. These things take time. Developing an ad tech business without trackers has a lot of challenges.

>> No.51328575

>>51328195
you are unironically one of the biggest retard johnny come latelys please shut the fuck up

>> No.51330658

>>51328575
You have no experience in tech. Your opinion is meaningless.

>> No.51331044

>>51320142
Maintaining a private wallet and balance is entirely underrated. It's only a matter of time before the vast majority of crypto users shield their transaction histories, esp. with on-chain privacy now possible on mobile app through Railway privacy system.

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>>51308412
>Love Privacy
>Hate government
Actually appreciating privacy is not about hating the government. As a matter of fact, I have a high regard for privacy systems that gives user the exclusive option to be transparent if the legitimacy of actions is questioned by the government or regulators.

>> No.51332635

>>51331044
That's an easy audit target for the IRS. Using privacy coins will not go undetected. They will know you are doing it when you cash out at Coinbase or whatever exchange.

>> No.51333658

>>51332635
Not sure you know its system works. There are no validators, no nodes. There is no multisig or admin key. There's nobody who can affect it on their own. I guess that's the point of being absolutely and completely decentralised. The only option for audit is exclusive to the user i.e. only user can have access to a ViewKey that can be used to generate a verifiable history of txns if there is a need for proof of legitimacy if the need for it arises. Again, it emphasises that demanding for privacy doesn't always mean an illegal act or activity is involved

>> No.51336194

>>51327098
Luke is the one behind the NFTs I'm pretty certain, solana NFTs of all things. Still can't buy merch or Brave's premium services with BAT, but hey, I can swap it for SOL to buy monkey pictures. Complete trainwreck.

>> No.51336634

>>51336194
>solana NFTs of all things
Ya I feel like there was a definitive moment where Brave could’ve gotten serious about marketing, implementing pay with BAT, adding more creator sites ie Rumble, self serve, improving tipping and that shitty dex etc. but instead they dropped the ball and decided to get into NFT’s and more wallet partnerships. Of all directions they could’ve gone. 2022 has been god awful on so many levels. I’m still hopeful they make up for it in Q4, but if not I’m gonna have to start unloading my position.

>> No.51337504

>>51336194
>>51336634
galapagos cunt coming to suck them off again and defend these objectively bad moves in 3..2..

>> No.51337643

>>51337504
You tried to get rich quick and failed. Sucks. Sorry!

Building a business is hard.

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>Building a business is hard.

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>>51337643
>>51337752
>Building a business is hard.

>> No.51337920

Faggot anger has arrived.

>> No.51338894

Did anyone else get way more rewards in August than was estimated? It showed like 1.5 BAT for desktop and mobile at the beginning of the month, but then just let me claim like 7.75 BAT on each.

>> No.51338918

>>51323358
It's not a surprise. Disproportionate number of their users are pooskins. They cut off said poos cause bat farms & their ad views are worthless. Poos go back to using Chrome or shitting in streets. MAU drops.

>> No.51339043

>>51338894
17 on desktop lol wtf.

>> No.51339100

>>51338918
They should’ve opened up the swag store and enabled pay with BAT before cutting off the jeets cold turkey.

>> No.51339359

https://twitter.com/BraveBatInfo/status/1567996366257029122

Where are the haters saying tokenomics suck now?

>> No.51339392

>>51339359
hahahahahha what the fuck

>> No.51339401

>>51339359
Th-th-that’s a small self serve ad buy r-r-right?

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I found an old picture. The Brave waifu pegging the chrome waifu.

>> No.51339738

>>51339401
>>51339359
The BAT Brigade discord server ran ads recently. Did they use the self serve dashboard?

>> No.51339857

Are they ever going to get their payout system fixed? It was saying that I was supposed to get 5.8 BAT for August and I got over 24. Don't get me wrong, it's based as fuck knowing that I'm going to get way more than what I'm told every month, but it's just weird. For July I think I got around 27 when it said I earned like 9 I think.

>> No.51339879

>>51339738
Yea maybe they’ve opened the self serve dashboard up to select users and this was the first regional ad buy.

>> No.51340368

>>51339359
TEN WHOLE DORRA
AHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAAA

>> No.51342112

>>51340368
Honestly it’s the best sign we gotten in over a year. It shows they’re testing small transactions for advertisers

>> No.51342788

>>51342112
>>51340368
>>51339879
Literally no evidence it’s from self serve.