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previous thread >>53204952

Buy XRP on Uphold/CoinMetro/Bitrue/Kucoin[NY]
[for Bitrue send USDT or XLM and use XLM/XRP]
or on the XRP ledger https://xrptoolkit.com/trade
or on XUMM app (with USD IOUs from Bitstamp)

>Newfag Tutorial:
https://youtu.be/23Yn5GdYpJc
>XRP $2,000+ EOY:
https://youtu.be/sFX1d7Si3mA
>SEC Lawsuit Latest:
https://youtube.com/c/LegalBriefs/videos

>Flare Networks (FLR) Overview:
https://youtu.be/ChMGCtuibsA
>Bitrue vs Poloniex FLR:
https://youtu.be/epEAgS3EV5Y
>Flare vs Ethereum:
https://youtu.be/rNwNRBbsEtw
>Flare Finance (YFLR) Intro:
https://youtu.be/_mto6QcUqZU
>Flare Finance FAQ:
https://youtu.be/U9Rs_DyuAq8
>Flare Finance Wiki:
https://everipedia.org/wiki/lang_en/flare-finance

>XRPL’s CMC:
https://xrptrader.net
>XRP Ledger:
https://dex.xrplapps.com
>XRP Charts:
https://xrpcharts.ripple.com
>XSG Frenlist:
https://rich-list.info/

>Insiders/UHNWI/Mellon/Lore:
https://pastebin.com/Z39w20qf

>Memesmiths:
https://pastebin.com/2hdYtXVY

>Twitter:
https://twitter.com/JoelKatz
https://twitter.com/PolySignInc
https://twitter.com/FlareNetworks
https://twitter.com/FlareFinance
https://twitter.com/CommunityFlare
https://twitter.com/bearableguy123

>The Myth of Market Cap:
http://galgitron.net/Post/The-Myth-of-Market-Cap---Version-2
>XRP FUD BINGO:
https://fudbingo.com
>ANTI-FUD:
https://pastebin.com/ZESsmqB8

>Past /XSG/ Threads:
https://pastebin.com/pZdQbREq
https://pastebin.com/1wC2gBpW

>What wallet do I use?
Hot storage - XUMM, Exodus or TrustWallet
Cold storage - Paper/Metal or Ledger/D’CENT
Paper Wallet - https://pastebin.com/zFL8nJXd
DO NOT use Droplet wallet, it's a scam! and will steal your XRP.

>> No.53218183

>>53218160
When will this bloody case end and I miss Hogan's Legal Brief videos

>> No.53218216
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Blessed be the baker

>> No.53218222

What's with the poompa boys?

>> No.53218267

>>53218222
Gensler sex tape dropped

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>>53218160
The golden XRP shower has began

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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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53218423

>>53218160
>>53218183
>>53218216
>>53218222
>>53218267
>>53218313
>>53218321

GUYS GUYS GUYS

>> No.53218424

>>53218222
Botcar man said Aqua is best girl

>> No.53218461
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53218461

HOLY SHIT GUYS

THE PRICE


LOOK AT THE FUCKING CHART


WE WENT FROM $0.35 TO $0.37 BACK TO $0.35 AGAIN

WAGMI XRP BROS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck98XGXzkrY

I LITERALLY FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR ON PURPOSE

>> No.53218477

Ripple XRP I AM LITERALLY ABOUT TO EXPLODE A TSUNAMI OF WISDOM!

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icvkcVcc9yU

Again something is incoming

This week is gonna be huge

right? Butfirstbeforewqejumpintothisthisisnotfinancialadviceonlyjust mypersonalopinion now this just in from watcher guru


Woooow

The world basicly, people in America. Start to love. Hmmmm. The dominos guys are about the fall. This is what we have talked about. You can't make this stuff up right guys? Of course not financial advice. I'm so super excited we literally talked about this you can't make any of this stuff up.

Wooow. This world is heading towards where guys? Mr Pool just tweeted. Baba Cugs tweeted a picture of a sky. Hmmmmm. Very interested.

If you look at the time he posted, it's a 3. And 3 reverse is an E. XRP maybe? Who knows. Why? Because the people. We the people. The new world. Hmmmm. Elon Musk was also making a poll. Very interesting.

>> No.53218605

christ, songbird has to be the gayest investment I have ever made

>> No.53218633

>>53218605
just wait for 2 more weeks my guy

>> No.53218691

Ripple XRP TETHER USDT IMPLOSION COMING RIGHT UP THIS IS NOT A DRILL BEWARE!!!

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBMqA3NlJew


HERE

WE

GO

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53218714

TETHER USDT IS DONE FOR

THIS IS NOT A DRILL

SELL ALL YOUR USDT NOWWWWW

>> No.53218742

>>53218714
>delisted in canada
Holyfuck thats big.

>> No.53218758

>>53218742
Canada always frontruns shit. Remember all the covid laws that couldn't happen because "it isn't china here"? It's the globohomo pilot country.

>> No.53218817

>>53218477
hmmmmmmmmmm..

>> No.53218848

>>53218817
Uh Oh!

>> No.53218863

anyone else not touching flare till things progress with xrp? I have been bamboozled with sgb and I think one -99% in my portfolio is enough

>> No.53218879

>>53218863
just hodl to zero

>> No.53218900
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53218900

When is the case ending?
I'm still waiting for a $10k check and i need to pack more of that XRP
I get paid on March 10th at least...

Im so euphoric

>> No.53218903

>>53218900
>When is the case ending?

January 25th

>> No.53218917

>>53218714
>remaining balances converted to USDC
>USDC gets pumped briefly on conversion
>managing company has to mint more to match the dollar
>people withdraw because they dont want usdc, they want tether and begin conversion
>price dips below dollar and so the reserve fund gets used to buy back
>reserve is only $43.4bn with 1/4 of it managed by BlackRock
>simultaneously, the same thing happens for tether but in reverse (dip causing reserve to get burnt)
>people get spooked and start moving their money out
>collapse as both stablecoins burn their reserves at record pace
>Luna took 3 days ($44bn)
Its literally a controlled demolition. Luna was the practice run.

>USDC managed by Circle
>logo looks surprisingly similar to the time magazine phoenix logo
Im sure its a cohencidence.

>> No.53218918

>>53218183
Thread #2022

>> No.53218938

>>53218917
That does make sense yes

>> No.53218960

In previous thread someone commented about delegating FLR on the Ledger. Why would anyone chose ledger + metamask over Bifrost wallet? I get that Ledger is more secure, however constantly interacting with MM is not.

>> No.53218983

>>53218960
why make a new wallet for this? You already should have had all your shit set up for self custody to begin with. Thenx if fip1 doesnt pass, the rewards will go to your original wallet. There is no reason to play around with having to store another seed key. Trying to tell these midwits to create multiple wallets is a recipe for disaster and could cause a loss of funds.

>> No.53218986

>>53218917
>people withdraw because they dont want usdc, they want tether and begin conversion
elaborate

>> No.53218990

Am I dumb or FLR token not needed? Since there will be Federated Sidechains, Hooks or whatever the fuck on the XRPL

>> No.53219021

>>53218990
you're joking right?

>> No.53219044
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53219044

any way to wrap flare on XUMM? ot atleast transfer it to bifrost or something

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53219048

XRP BROS WTFWT


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo

>> No.53219050

>>53218986
>USDT pairs on practically every exchange for most crypto
>USDC pairs on a smaller number of exchanges
>USDT almost always accepted on DEXs
Its simply more versatile.

>> No.53219072

>>53219044
XUMM is exclusively XRPL, youll need an eth style wallet to do anything. If you were holding your XRP on XUMM during the snapshot you should have entered an eth style address into the XRPL via a signed txn to designate where your flare goes to. Once its in that wallet, you can connect it to an FTSO providers UI and delegate there.

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53219089

>XRThots
This is how the XRP ARG dies.

>> No.53219094

>>53218903
>January 25th
isn't In March or before end of Q1 (end of february or March)?
I mean..I'm out of the loop then..
source ?

>> No.53219095

>>53219089
kys coomer

>> No.53219107

>>53219094
>source ?

just look how many days/weeks it is from now

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>>53219107
Ohhh fuck
i must trust the plan then..
P..Patriots still in control i guess

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>>53219072
I bought it off of gatehub trough xumm yesterday when it released, so I don't know if it's possible even to send it on eth wallet

>> No.53219133

>>53219050
I now can see how this could cause a two impulse mint-burn shock on both sides. But isn't the majority of users simply going to do an on-chain transfer of their Tether IOUs to a different exchange?

>> No.53219142
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53219142

*Please let this be a pre-settelement insider pump*

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>>53219142
>Price was $0.35
>Price went to $0.37
>Price went back to $0.35
>Price went back to $0.36

>"pump"

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53219157

>>53219095
I didn't coom though and even blanked out the thots Instasham, I saw it scrolling through the XRP tag. I was meerly stating that these XRThots are a tragedy and a blight on the culture.

>> No.53219160

HOLY SHIT WE WENT TO $0.35 AGAIN

WAGMI XRP BROS

>> No.53219213

>>53219119
have they opened withdrawals yet? I got a bunch extra on MEXC and they just opened theirs tonight at 8PST, first epoch starts in like 30 hours, better get on it so you dont miss the first set of rewards.

>> No.53219227

>>53219213
exchange specific
some have, but i don't have a complete list

>> No.53219239

>>53219133
>tether IOUs
They don't get these, it all occurs on crypto.com its an automatic switch and your account is credited with USDC. So at least one shock is going to occur, the second is harder to predict because it relies on people not wanting to have USDC. This can come in many forms such as:
>well crypto is dead, I'll withdraw my funds
>I had tether reee, im getting my tether back
>my arbitrage bots used tether, I'll switch to a new exchange
>etc
Thats if everything is working above board, but lets say you're a malicious government with a canadian account. If you transferred a couple of billion over you could really threaten the markets. Even if you lost those billions you'd make up for it on a short sell somewhere else. And if everything in these threads is to come true, then what better way to collapse tether for the black swan than a seemingly legitimate delisting of a major stablecoin. Especially if you combine that with:
>Canada's presence as a member of the G7
>their willingness to do whatever the USA says (the convoys spoke a lot about how much power the USA actually has over Canada's internal politics
>their prime minister that is basically on the way out and easily scapegoatable
>how little impact on themselves, geopolitically and global financially if they were to be found out to have manufactured the crash
Because if this is truly the globohomo coin then I'm willing the bet that all members of the G7 and WEF wouldn't be too aversed to blowing $100bn to end crypto and planting it firmly in their pockets with CBDCs and XRP

>> No.53219265

>>53219227
I was talking directly to an anon, retard.
>>53219119
as you can see he asked if it was possible to withdraw from gatehub and then giving him an example that I know of and when their withdraws opened. Please pay attention before posting.

>> No.53219268

Flare about to break through 0.05?

>> No.53219277

>>53219268
lmao thats one way to look at a huge red rug candle

>> No.53219288

>>53219277
kek

>> No.53219294

>>53219268
damn hope we crash down again, waiting for an airdrop on another chain, going to be a good bit of cash from it, throwing it all into flare, was hoping to seriously inflate my stack.

>> No.53219427

POOMPA

>> No.53219442

>>53219427
HOLY SHIT WE ARE BACK AT $0.36 AGAIN JUST WHERE WE WERE A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO

WAGMI XRP BROS

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>>53219442
A couple OF YEARS AGO you mean

>> No.53219562

>>53219456
KEK

>> No.53219609

>create account
>3 months later they ask you to confirm information you've already given
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

>> No.53219835
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53219835

Flare Pool's Open on Pangolin, nibbas.

>> No.53219901

>>53219050
Now do usds......

>> No.53219945
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>FLARE

>> No.53219998

Who we delegating with?

>> No.53220011
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>>53219945
>FLARE

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>>53220011
>FLARE

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53220099

>>53219945
>>53220011
>>53220084
>FLARE

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53220139

Wow! The proof is...what guys? In. The. Pudding. It's all right in front of our faces, not financial advice. Now for the fun part in crypto news: babacucks tweeted, "2 more weeks" and in gematria that equals 311. Reversed is 113 guys, like my mind is totally blown right now. Possible moon date this January 13th. Summer, 589, Winter. At this point in time, guys, anything can happen. But David Schwartz tweeted out, "yes I'm Jewish, here is a picture of my dradel." Is he saying the case is spiraling to an end? And as we know, the entire economy is collapsing, which has to happen, so the Phoenix can rise out of the ashes. It's all about the timeline guys! CryptoSlut tweeted out, "XRP good, SEC bad" and as we know, the powers that be, they want you out, and that's gonna happen when? Exactly. During the financial collapse. So get your crypto off the exchanges. Not. Financial. Advice. ButAnywaysGuysIHopeYouEnjoyedToday'sVideo, haveAnAmazingDay- see ya

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bros...

>> No.53220184

>>53220139
isn't that quite interesting?

>> No.53220284
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53220284

Are (((they))) starting the cyber pandemic?

>> No.53220288

>>53220284
UH OH

This is what we have talked about guys


You cant make any of this up

HMMMMMMMMM

>> No.53220463

>>53218863
I'll probably wait until March/April summary judgement and ISO20022 launch. If years posters end up being right I'll diversify before the lawsuit ends

>> No.53220526

>>53218960
>connecting your ledger to a smart contract and compromising it
Move all of your FLR to a different wallet with no XRP in it if you are going to stake it.

>> No.53220730

XRP BROS WTFT

WE WENT FROM $0.362 to $0.364

OOOOOOOOOOOOHHH WAGMI

>> No.53220793

$0.3650

I REPEAT

WE ARE AT $0.3650!!!!!

>> No.53220893

>>53220793
The euphoria in #xsg right now feels like XRP is at 2k already. It's going to be like this at 0.37 and 0.38 and 0.39, and 0.39.5 and 0.38 all the way until $0.50 and beyond. I'm so excited for you schizos.

>> No.53220903

>>53220893


WE ARE GONNA BREAK OUT BRO

CHECK THE CHART

OOOOOOOOOO

Get some hype in here guys

LETS GOOOOOO

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53220928

WAGMI XRP BROS

THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT

CAUSE WE KNOOOOW PUMP IT UP WE GOOTTA PUMP IT UPPPPp

>> No.53220993

>>53220893
One fag spamming isn’t euphoria.

>> No.53220998

>>53220993
>2023
>homophobia

big yikes for me

>> No.53221082

>>53220998
you need to be 18 to post here

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>>53221082
>you need to be 18 to post here

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My lil flare stock doin sum

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>>53221128
>My lil flare stock doin sum


OOOOOH WAGMI FLARE BROS

>> No.53221154

is it happening
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/11/faa-orders-airlines-to-pause-departures-until-9-am-et-after-system-outage.html

skyking nerds on pol said there's a bunch of military air traffic up right now especially above europe, and there's this
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-728218
>System failure grounds US planes, flights to, from Israel unaffected

>> No.53221163

>>53221154
>flights to, from Israel unaffected

Hi /pol/ !

>> No.53221174

>>53220893
>>53220903
>>53220928
>>53220793
>>53220730
after all the demoralization posting the last 9 months the sudden switch is inorganic as fuck, you guys stick out like a sore thumb

>> No.53221189

>>53221174
take your meds you're seeing things again

>> No.53221223

>>53218714
1/11/23

it's a sequence...1, 1, 1, 2, 3

>> No.53221237

>>53221223
Holy fuck I didnt notice that

>> No.53221241

>>53220526
I have bifrost since I was using it for SGB already, i'm not touching metamask and other bullshit with Ledger where 70% of my xrp stack resides.

>> No.53221268

>>53221163
actually i'm just an avid Jerusalem Post reader, they've got some real mensches on staff and their investigative reporting is a mitzvah

>>53221189
you know, from summer 2020 until earlier this year i was really troubled by persistent delusions of grandeur and persecution, many of which were related to this thread and XRP in general (i thought i was involved in some kind of plot to crash the world economy and rebuild it, covid, nanobots, quantum AI, ham sandwiches)
but then i finally went and talked to some qualified medical professionals who got me put on mood stabilizers, antipsychotics, SSRIs and benzos and I've gotta say- they really help. now i've been able to get back to normal life, i've gotten really into fantasy football. much more peaceful than reading all those crazy conspiracy theories.

>> No.53221270

>>53221174
It’s a retarded bitfuck

>> No.53221285

>>53220182
you are not my bro you autistic retard.

>> No.53221298

>>53221285
You are all my brothers

We are in this together


Also

DID YOU GUYS SEE TH ECHART?!?!?!?

>> No.53221332

>>53221298
Nice fud, it's hitting the spot, almost making me sell

>> No.53221347

>>53221298
33pbtid
My trust in you is by far the lowest.

>> No.53221359

>>53221332
Im not fudding we are almost breaking out bro

>>53221347
I dont get what point you are trying to make

>> No.53221369

So which FTSO should we delegate for maximum gains

>> No.53221372

>>53221369
Yes

>> No.53221645

aaaaand breakout

>> No.53221668

>>53220284
>https://apnews.com/article/flight-delays-us-faa-updates-5805d15f520de8eadf52abb7b170487f

>The FAA ordered all departing flights grounded early Wednesday morning, but lifted that order just before 9 a.m. Eastern after several hours.

>However, delays and cancellations continue to snowball.

Nothingburger,, just some delays

>> No.53221736

>>53221147
Non-retards bought in big between 0.03 - 0.04 so we're up decently already.

>> No.53221744

>>53221736

Haha amazing bait or holy mother of cope

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OOOOoooOOOOooooOOOOoOOoOOoooooOOOOoooO

>> No.53222169

>>53218863
Most people should sell FRL so I can vote for their other 85%. Why do you hate democracy? Fuck you commie!

>> No.53222213

>>53219239
You're making some pretty good points there. The Tether icon is a mushroom cloud.

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>>53221744
Keep seething faggot. I'm already up 33%.

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>>53219239
>their prime minister that is basically on the way out and easily scapegoatable
Anon, please stop, I can only get so hard

>> No.53222822

>it was just XRP pumping before bitcoin dumping so XRP price wouldn't crash that hard

Fuck bros.... I knew it was too good to be true

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>What I do know though is just what I do no in fact is if you just simply love God everything else will just become a bonus in itself
>Not Financial advice
Kek, extravod gave me a hearty chuckle

>> No.53223178

OoooooOooooooOOooooo XRP bros wtfwt we are back

>> No.53223186

Where tf are my FLR?

>> No.53223297

>>53223186
It's coming (in about 2 weeks or so)

>> No.53223312

>>53223186
We all have our flare
Goybase cucks really need to shut the fuck up

>> No.53223358

>>53222822
It did this last 3 BTC dumps, I hope it's not tho

>> No.53223433

>>53223358
>this time its different

>> No.53223564

>>53223433
Checked and hopefully. If we call this time all of 2023.

>> No.53223638

What is the reason for pump?

>> No.53223723

>Hold like 3.5k flare on my mememask and snapshotted 25k back in 2020
wtf do I do with this stuff? I dont wanna sell. Do I have to do something to get the other 85% or will it just show up later over time?

>> No.53223728

Just sold the bag I bought at $.30
Left an order to buy back in $.33

This is the way

>> No.53223731

actual copium itt. why are people celebrating over a pump like not even a 12th the size of the rise in september.

>> No.53223740

>>53218267
>>53218423
the proof is what guys? in gary's pudding, yes

>> No.53223771

>>53223186
Should have kept your xrp off an exchange.
You were warned. Repeatedly. For years.

>> No.53223791

>>53223740
kek

>> No.53223878

>>53223723
You have to read the threads.

>> No.53223991

I’m reading FIP.01 right now. It says this initial airdrop to users is 4 billion, and this proposal would reallocate the remaining 24 billion that needs to be distributed. Does that mean if it passes, every FLR we buy right now is essentially buy one get six free over the next 24-36 months?

>> No.53223992

>>53223878
nobody ever reads threads on this website

you just type shit and click Post

>> No.53224051

>>53223991
Bingo.

>> No.53224067

>>53223991
Yep

>>53223186
Where did you hold it at the date of the snapshot?

>> No.53224107

>>53223992
>43 posts
You are a faggot

>> No.53224115

>>53221128
>>53221147
That's because I bought

>> No.53224134

>>53224107
44 now

>> No.53224167

>>53224051
>>53224067
I guess my next question is when will the vote be? It says once 66% of the FLR is with users and eligible, the voting will start. I imagine we must be pretty close to that threshold.

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I work for my family, we’re like 180k in debt and they won’t be able to pay me for the next 2 months
I won’t be able to buy FLR, I got my airdrop but I could easily buy 3x the amount with $600
I feel so left out, but I guess this is part of running a business during a recession while your programmer father doesn’t know how to handle debt and money

>> No.53224226

>>53224167
It should be pretty soon. I don't know the exact date, but I don't think it really matters since everyone who sold gave up their vote, and it is directly in the interest of the people that still hold FLR to vote for the proposal because it will be a huge increase of their value, so it will most likely 99% go through

>> No.53224227

>>53224181
Hope you at least got some xrps before this. Good luck with that shit; a ton of people have it rough and we still are waiting for the end of this shitty trial.

>> No.53224229

>>53224181
i'm on the same position friend, made some bad decisions may have to wait a bit before jumping in

but we have some time, i think flare is overvalued right now for investors looking to accumulate, the supply will dilute fast and sgb will get its time in the sun first for testing s-assets and smart contracts before flare does

>> No.53224382

Take a second job flipping burgers or something. $600 should be doable within a few weeks

>> No.53224508

>>53224181
ebay some of your dildos
consider this financial advise

>> No.53224644
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53224644

Shiranui Flare my beloved

>> No.53224762

>>53224181
>they won’t be able to pay me for the next 2 months
this is why credit cards exist

>> No.53225732

Anon, get a new job. We have heard stories of your family screwing you over and taking you for granted before. Your family sounds like losers.

>> No.53226100

Hey guys i'm almost going to bed. I wil speak to y'all tomorrow, aight?

>> No.53226183

why does my family not listen when i give them investment advice?

>> No.53226187

Question for bitrue users:
I don't have an account but I want one to buy more flare before fip01 passes (it will pass)
Bitrue doesn't need a KYC to withdraw so is it better to make a fake account just to buy and send or does it matter because (((they))) already have my info or can get it via my flare address i send it to?

>> No.53226277

I came across a Twitter space yesterday with 2000+ people discussing XRP and the buy back theory
For 2 hours, these retards entertained the idea of needing an independent board of "XRP experts" to assign a fair market price for XRP once the government cracks down and tries to steal XRP from US holders
These people are worse than Qanon, and has to be the most powerful FUD I've seen

>> No.53226346

>>53226183
They don't want your advice. They just want you to have children so they can pretend to be good relatives to them. Then push all their bullshit on them and makes them little family clones that make all the same mistakes for generations in a sort of purgatory.

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>>53226187
FLR will be listed on a couple more exchanges soon, I think its better to buy it now while its this cheap
>>53226277
Was it Valhil Capital? They're the ones pushing the $37500 narrative, a buyback will never happen

>> No.53226417

>>53226277
Those are nigger cattle, and will be harvested either way. Aptitude tests will be given en masse. Pass or die.
>>53226346
Sins and Traumas of the father and mother, do not consent to their offloading attempts. Be your own being.

>> No.53226432

>>53226394
not buying your bags

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>>53226432
go to bed faggot

>> No.53226491

>>53226183
Because you're not rich already
And once you are they will still refuse
They'll just expect you to give them money

>> No.53226492

>>53226457
I will soon but i'm addicted to you guys you are the only real friends I have

>> No.53226562

>>53226394
>Was it Valhil Capital?
Not sure
It was funny at first, but became quite sad as I went through the list of speakers to see mostly tattooed single mothers, niggers, boomers and semi-homeless people discussing theories completely removed from reality

>> No.53226566

>>53226492
>~50 posts in thread at 151
Lol wtf

>> No.53226590

>>53226566
So? Who cares? You autistic or something?

Even if I would have all 300 posts by myself i'd still fuck more chicks than you

Go out and touch grass or get laid

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>>53226277
>These people are worse than Qanon
Most of them are qanon followers, I follow xrp on twitter daily, so I saw plenty of those profiles and at least half of them are patriots, wwgawg1, nesaragesara, maga crowd.

>> No.53226649

>>53226590
Chadbro....... I..

>> No.53226788

>>53226566
He's Indian, and an autistic gay retard. The antithesis of XSG schizo.

>> No.53226872

>>53226788
SIR

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>>53218714
>in your jurisdiction
>north-west of caribou island, north alaskan territory, population - 7 faggot niggers
oy vey

>> No.53227040

Is NORTSO good? High rewards.

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>>53220182

>> No.53227113

>>53226562
I get the sense that the buyback thing was simply a joke taken way too seriously
Kind of like $589+ EOY 2018

Or just another master stroke from the Ripple marketing team

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>>53223740

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>>53223178

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>>53219089

>> No.53227324

Who we delegating to flare bros, also sorry to ftschizo anon I moved my delegation to your oracle down to 2% because I crave rewards but I hope my stack helps still

>> No.53227334

Any FTSO that exceeds the 2.5% voting power cap has rewards diluted? So don't necessarily choose the provider with just the highest rewards but the one with the highest rewards and under 2.5% voting power?

>> No.53227376

>>53226277
The government doesn't need to do a buyback, they just need to control the off/on ramps via exchanges and banks and force KYC. Oh, everywhere else will be doing the same stuff. Its why these people should have discussed and shared how to burn their tokens on chain.

>> No.53227410

>>53218477
hmmmmmmm......

>> No.53227489

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjCygGWmZp8

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>>53227489
>vid uploaded in 2021
rope rope rope your throat, gently down the stream

>> No.53228414

>>53218918
>thread 202twomoreweeks

>> No.53228428

>49 posts by this ID

>> No.53228438

>>53218714
CB has had a pop up every time I log in asking me to convert USDT to USDC for free for about a month now.
I already know it's just two weeks from happening so this didn't surprise me but it means we are JUST TWO WEEKS or less away.

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>>53228438

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https://twitter.com/ColdWarPatriot/status/1613199856239091713

of fuck, it's really over for the cunts

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Haven't been here in years. I'm a bagholder of xrp. It's sitting in corn-based wallet. Wen lawsuit over

>> No.53228720

>>53228700
Or coinbase

>> No.53228754

>>53228700
They shut down XRP wallets and burned the contents fren.

>> No.53228909

>>53228672
kek
That video. Actually laughed out loud.
Let's be serious. We're all just going to raise chickens and stack ammo and watch the cities burn and that will really be all that happens.

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>>53228672
Also Charlie Kirk, who I've never had a good look at before, is the absolute definition of a sweating chud.
Needs a black and white meme drawing of pic related.
Or a JUST'd meme. He's a mix I guess.

>> No.53229032

>>53228754
What? Holy shit are you serious? I haven't logged in innover a year but I had like 3000 coins I had moved from somewhere. I've had those coins for like 6 years or more

>> No.53229180

>>53229032
Well, not to panic you, but you should panic and immediately log on to coinbase and move your XRP because at some point recently they announced they would no long support wallets that have low usage.
Of course since they suspended XRP trading this included XRP.
Better go check.
There was nothing about burning contents though kek.
However you need to get that shit off coinbase pronto.

Now, their WALLETS could be different that a regular account?
idk, but if I were you I'd scoot over there real quick like immediately.

>> No.53229248

Blackcockwhale back on twitter and shilling Harmony. Solobros did we get jeeted? Haven’t seen any hopium lately, might gamble on Flare instead

>> No.53229547

>>53229180
Ok but help me understand something pls. I just logged in it's still there. A long time ago I got in crypto. Then got out, then forgot, then didn't give 2 fucks. About 2 years ago or 1 year I gave a relative all my shiba inu in a transfer and they sent me their xrp. Anyway. Im so confused is it even legal in US? Is it legal to use a non us based wallet? I just don't want to transfer it out and then get accussed of breaking a law. I don't understand how all the sudden Feds just swoop in and start making up rules as they go.

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>>53229248
flare is literally solo v3.0
solo is literally songbird v0.1b alpha

>> No.53229853

>>53218160
Been out of XRP news for a bit. When the fuck did Exodus cuck out on Flare?

>> No.53229903

>>53229853
Same shit as with songbird. I just used metamask, then sent it to a bifrost wallet.

>> No.53229931

>>53228909
I'd like to also get a cute wife to have a ton of kids with as it all burns, but yes.

>> No.53229987

>>53229248
>>53229801
Is worth investing in SOLO at this point?
Let's suppose the larper was right...
What's the price target in the next bull run?

>> No.53230065

>>53229987
Think his target was $130 or something. He deleted all his tweets from last year. He also called for .09 cent and $28 XRP which obviously didn’t pan out. Also his pajeet way of typing is a massive redflag

>> No.53230150

>>53230065
The soloshilling on here was extremely inorganic. That faggot and the extravod spammer acted very similarly. I don't see how people thought it was a good idea seeing how gay it was in these threads because of them. Extravod fag still is a pain, purposely ruining threads and making shill threads with 37500 OPs that just make the /xsg/ regulars, the ones that are left, look retarded.
Fuck that faggot and fuck the solospammers.

>> No.53230227

>>53229987
>>53230065
>>53230150
The ingestor was full of shit. If solo ever gets the license it will probably be after the case settles, meaning holding solo now likely won't help with stacking more zerps.

>> No.53230288

>>53226277
This is what is making me bearish as fuck about this project. The amount of retards and trailertrash and "valhillcapital" larpers talking like they have BoA on the other line and here to give us le insider scoop

>> No.53230348

>>53230288
I think we will do alright once the SEC bullshit ends, I just don't see us hitting $37500 or other insane numbers like those larpers push.

>> No.53230357

How are Americans buying FLR? USDT to bitrue and then trading the pair?

>> No.53230375

>>53230357
I just signed up to bitrue and sent some XRP then traded for FLR. Took me like 20 minutes and no KYC

>> No.53230386

>>53230357
Kraken.

>> No.53230391

>>53230375
I saw that pair but wont give up a single zerp.

>> No.53230412

>>53230357
Uphold has everything. You can stake flr @ 7%

>> No.53230429

>>53230391
I feel you fren. It wasn’t from my stack but just a few hundred I traded for solo. Just easier than going into usdt

>> No.53230709

>>53229547
I'm not explaining all that.
Just move your XRP to a Xumm wallet or a ledger as fast as possible.

>> No.53230725

>>53229931
I've got that covered. Good luck friend. Women want men with chickens. I'm dead serious.

>> No.53230746

How do I delegate my FLR and what do I profit doing this?

>> No.53230751

>>53230357
xumm

>> No.53230767

>>53218160
can any bros help me out? I just connected my ledger to metamask and wrapped all my flare on app.flare.flareoracle.io/. I went to delegate but mm said insufficient funds. went to unwrap some to pay and insufficient funds. pls help a midwit

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>>53230767
>he wrapped all his FLR

>> No.53230785

>>53229853
you can get your tokens from what you had in exodus but cant actually use exodus to access them, have to use another wallet
https://www.exodus.com/support/article/1524-flare-network-faqs-learn-more-about-spark-token#desktop-claim

>> No.53230798

FLR buying opportunity under 0.04 might be coming again bros.

>> No.53230847

>>53230767
You had to leave a bit for expenses. There were guides that said that. You can try buying some, transfering to that wallet, then using them to move/wrap/delegate etc.

>> No.53230853

>>53230412
Do not do this. From what I can tell, Uphold is wrapping and delegating the flare, which will probably get them more than 7% apy if Songbird is anything to go by. Wrap and delegate yourself

>> No.53230973

>>53230847
thanks anon

>> No.53230978

>>53230853
I thought there was enough issues with scummy exchanges for people to have learned to not do this.

>> No.53231127

>>53226277
>>53230288
Perspective. You can see it as an opportunity to actually contribute to the XRPL ecosystem and get XRP while you're at it. It's you vs those type of people.

>> No.53231174

>>53230853
https://support.bifrostwallet.com/en/articles/6545558-wrap-and-delegate-flare
This site has a bit more information on it though related to bifrost but the basic info applies with Flare in general.
Note:
>IMPORTANT: Do not wrap all of your Flare (FLR), you need to save some FLR to pay for network fees.

>> No.53231176

Bought about 3000 FLR and delegating 50/50 to Atlas TSO and NORTSO. So if I’m understanding this FIP1 vote correctly, if it passes I’m entitled to the other 85% of that 3000 I just bought? So basically an extra 17,000 for free

>> No.53231207

>>53231176
Something like that, it seems.
I'm waiting for another dip down to buy more; I got a bit in the .04s but might get another small stack potentially in the .03s or who knows how low

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>>53230798
Limit order set sub $.03 cents. Should probably set for $.02 with the way things are going. When MATIC at -60% is my best performing position, who really gives a flying fuck at a rolling donut anyways. Might as well pay some wino to punch my lights out and then shit in my bed. Be a less damaging use of my investment capital than crypto the last few years. Went from $7k a month income to driving a fucking forklift to keep the bills paid. Haha jokes on me…and you.

>> No.53231247

Can any Flare bros confirm this for me >>53227334
I heard it in some other thread.

>> No.53231264

Looks like the pump is over. That will be another 1 year of crabbing

thanks for playing schizos

>> No.53231341

>>53231264
It's either $2k or it's not $2k. These single digit "pumps" mean nothing to me.

>> No.53231401

>>53231341
do you really think we hit 2k per zerp

>> No.53231429

Bros, Bitrue enabled withdraws but what I don’t get is how the fuck did they give me the entire airdrop and not just 15%? My Bitrue FLR is worth about 1/4 of my FLR yet more than 80% of my holdings were in my ledger. If I held everything on Bitrue I would’ve gotten my whole airdrop

>> No.53231460

>>53227410
>>53218817
>watched every video daily for the past 2 years
the hmmmmmmm cracks me up every time

>> No.53231541

>>53231460
I just can't do it.. watched a few but it's to cringe

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WAGMI

>> No.53231717

I got 11 flare from the airdrop
LMAO
apparently my december 2020 balance was not very much

How much FLR is the suicide stack?

>> No.53231830

>>53231717
It's all up in the air at the moment.
But I'd guess it's more than 11.

>> No.53231846

>>53231429
You sir are a moron
Do your own research and you'll understand why everyone only received 15%

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>>53231541
you are missing out on one of the lifes greatest pleasures, some say his vids are better than sex and drugs at this point, right guys? and now for the nextwitfoibjpojerwgpjrgpejgerhgerFOJAKthoughbabacugs

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Failre goys,,,,,, not like this

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Do not buy it's a scam

>> No.53232320

>>53226277
this is why Ripple explicitly instructs projects it is affiliated with not to use the #XRParmy hashtag.

it's a pretty interesting phenomenon- there are facebook and telegram groups with thousands of members discussing these theories, very closely linked with the Qanon/quantum financial system/nesara gesara subculture. Stellar as well, with its Lobstr wallet tokens and whatnot

Who's behind all this? Who's pushing it? Who spends the hours to coordinate all this stuff?

These massive social media presences (complete with memes, influencers, regularly updated pages, moderators, content creators) are clearly another wing of the ARG and in my opinion are the clearest indicator of its reach and scope.

>> No.53232373

>>53231401
when the entire global economy runs through XRPL it's plausible but desu i think the transformations we're going to go through economically and societally kinda renders that number meaningless

if you mean, will 100 XRP in 2030-2040 have the same purchasing power that 200k does today, i.e. will 100xrp be able to buy me a house in a poor neighborhood, i think it's plausible. but there are a loooooot of hurdles between here and there before we get to that point.

>> No.53232857

Is the only difference between ledger nano x and ledger nano s plus the bluetooth compatibility ?

>> No.53233067

>>53218691
>That link

>> No.53233072

>>53232857
Not really, you can use nano x with your phone via Bluetooth, so it helpful if you don’t have computer around. I have both, but X only as a backup one and not activated.

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>>53232050
is he ok ?

>> No.53233183

>>53231717
Sui is 12, make it is 24. You are almost there.

>> No.53233491

youtube.com/watch?v=gcC98UkkMVk

BCB at it again, and now rambling on about tomorrow being MASSIVE

>> No.53233690

>>53233080
He's fine, I'm sure he just had the wind knocked out of him for a few seconds

>> No.53233762

4 more days anon. RIP JB.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Beck

>> No.53233786

GOOD MORNING SIRS

>> No.53233797

>>53231460
>watched every video daily for the past 2 years

Extremely based

I same for me and when he says he fell out of his chair on purpose I also throw myself and my markus on the ground and scream "UH OH"

>> No.53233808

>>53233491
>Doing TA on XRP chart

wow what a retard

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>> No.53233940

>>53218160
HammerToe btfoing the XRP community.
I can't believe you retards fell for the buyback meme. Kek
https://twitter.com/HammerToe/status/1613332112010280962?

>> No.53234106

>>53233940
>XRP community
XRP community and QANON retards are different people

>> No.53234117

First epoch starts soon bros. Just over 11hrs.

>> No.53234119

NEW BAKE

>>53233828
>>53233828
>>53233828

>> No.53234171

>>53234117
Aren't they burning the first two epochs?
>>53234119
fucking LOL 35 posts in that atrocious new bread, 30 of them are yours.

>> No.53234187

>>53234171
just trying to get some hype in there and do the needful by sharing all the infographs I have about XRP

>> No.53234254

>>53233762
Aww shit
He was a monster guitarist
He also wrote the best song to listen to when the market dumps
https://youtu.be/Zmzv5xJ4wE4
RIP

>> No.53234318

>>53233762
Aww fuk bye. RIP King.
>>53234254
>He also wrote the best song to listen to when the market dumps
kek

>> No.53234423

>>53234187
trying to be likeable makes you totally repulsive

>> No.53234439

>>53234423
Respectfully disagree and I know 99% of the anons here would disagree too

>> No.53234509

>>53219213
90 days to claim

>> No.53234548

>https://twitter.com/JoelKatz/status/1613402126784548864
>/ourjew/ bashing on Flare
yeah good thing I solded

>> No.53234574

>>53234548
check this post: >>53233880

>> No.53234595

>>53234574
>plz buy my rugged scamcoin nobody is interested in

how about no

>> No.53234615

Ripple XRP YOU WERE WARNED YEARS AGO ITS FINALLY COMING INTO FRUITION WHAT!

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0KsCm4MTds


HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>> No.53234858

>>53234439
>>53234808
most people completely reject you

>> No.53234915

>>53234858
>linking your own post

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He will continue to spam and bake early so it's best to ignore his posts and his threads.

>> No.53235012

According to this thread the metric's "suggested delegators" will take into account if those with 2.5% voting power or more will still get you the most rewards or not:
https://twitter.com/flareoracle_io/status/1613301664001458195

>> No.53235254

I walk with Christ and God always wins.

>> No.53235257

>>53235254
never stop posting this

>> No.53236177

Hmmmmmm

>> No.53237871

Extrafag loves making threads, I wonder what he gets from it?

>> No.53237957

>>53237871
He just loves to annoy people, ruin how comfy /xsg/ was.

>> No.53238122

>>53237957
I just block his ID every thread.

>> No.53238166

You guys are looking for problems that aren't there yet. Stop it. It's unhealthy.

Just be friendly, this is your test. Do you want good karma or do you want bad karma?

>> No.53238191

Just bought some FLR. What am I in for?

>> No.53238250

>>53238191
how does -99% sound?

>> No.53238369

>>53238166
62 post in one thread isn't healthy either.

>> No.53238428

>>53238369
nobody cares about this except autists though

Does it keep you up at night how many posts an individual has made in a certain thread on a certain website regarding a certain subject? That's kindof pathetic or even creepy if you ask me lol

>> No.53238490

>>53238428
You a faget

>> No.53238579

>>53238490
>racism
>homophobia
>constant insults and fighting
>keeping track of how many posts someone has made

yeah man the people in this thread really have their shit together and are much better obviously..... what a toxic community

>> No.53238714

>>53238579
>toxic community
Go back to redddit or whatever hell you spawned from.

>> No.53238770

>>53238714
no

>> No.53239457

>>53234439
Idk about 99% but your shenanigans are pretty funny hahahaha and yet you are an obnoxious fuck so it balances out who the fuck really cares anyway lol

>> No.53239483

>>53239457
tripfags are obnoxious as fuck 100% of the time though

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>>53239457
I agree. It's entertaining but gets boring pretty fast. Like a child telling you the same joke over and over.

>> No.53239788

>>53239457
You’re a faggot too.

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>>53239788
Who's the other one?

>> No.53239848

>>53239788
this

>>53239831
nobody

>> No.53239921

>>53239831
Extravod faggot.

>> No.53239931

>>53239921
no

>> No.53240000

>>53239725
Yeah lol look at these accidentally hilarious mfers hahahahaha
>>53239788
>>53239831
>>53239848
>>53239921
>>53239931

>> No.53240059

>LOOK AT ME I HAVE A NAME SO YOU CAN RECOGNIZE ME JUST LIKE ON REDDIT :D

>> No.53240090

Sooo
Anyway
Who we all delegating too?

>> No.53240117

>>53240090
Flare oracle
Defi oracle

>> No.53240141

>>53240090
delegate this

*unzips dick*

>> No.53240260

People bring up the 60+ posts count because it is a sign of mental disorders. Even on 4chan when the majority of people shitpost you are a standout. You bring nothing or value, you are not funny and I know you live a sad life, probably in a small apartment. I hope your life improves and you should really consider trying to find some hobbies. Backpacking, fishing, hunting, camping, get a motorcycle. You can do anything to enjoy life.

>> No.53240318

>>53240090
IDK where is FTSO anon?

>> No.53240339

>>53240090
I think i fucked up and delegates to alpha

>> No.53240343

>>53240260
this

and remove the fucking tripcode please

>> No.53240358

>>53240260
Its scary to leave the house there are niggers out there

>> No.53240373

>>53240358
+1

>> No.53240389

Anyway... almost 300 posts

time to migrate to the new thread guys guys guys

>>53236272

>> No.53240390

>>53240343
Kek. You are funny sometimes.

>> No.53240691

>>53240141
never stop posting this

>> No.53240874

>>53240691
ok

>> No.53240900

>>53240390
thanks

>> No.53240936

new bake lads: >>53236272

>> No.53241408

>>53239483
They don't understand why tripfagging is cancer. They think they're the good kind of cancer. There's no reasoning with them. We can only pray for a bus to flatten them.

>> No.53242103

>>53241408
yeah exactly. Some people are just unlikeble by default or something