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Anons I'm tired of the echo chambers! We pretty much all have our preferred coins, but what I would like to do in this thread is to point out specifically why I like HBAR and hear from holders of other coins as to why they agree or disagree with my points. So holders of ETH, AVAX, ICP, ALGO, FTM, SOL, BNB, and any other layer ones I've missed please chime in this thread. Also please mention what your main holdings are.

To start, my biggest reason for liking HBAR is they have a real live use case. Avery Dennison has atma.io running on the Hedera network. This use case has generated roughly 200 million transactions in the past 4 days, and has placed Hedera at the top of the TPS metrics compared to every network.
>inb4 how does this translate to token price going up
The value of the token is most aligned with the security of the network. If atma.io provides $100 million dollars worth of value to Avery Dennison then, for safety reasons, the Hedera network must be worth at least $300 million dollars. This is because if 33% of the network are bad actors they can corrupt the network.

If you're a holder and believer in another token, what use cases are you most excited about on your network? If no big active ones, what prospective ones?

>> No.53313075

>>53313070
Now to get into the niddy gritty technical aspects (warning I'm not a compsci technical nigger, I have a bachelors in physics). Hedera has high throughput, throttled to 10k tps but is capable of +100k tps. To go higher Leemon Baird and team will work on sharding.

The current time to finality for a transaction is around 5 seconds. Worth noting as well that Hedera actually achieves finality whereas many blockchains don't, instead they achieve probabilistic finality. The set of nodes scales logarithmically which means as you add more nodes the time to finality increases but it still remains in terms of seconds even if you add a lot. If time to finality were to become a problem the easy work around is sharding.

I'll end here and if this thread picks up traction I'll add more.

>> No.53313149

>>53313070
Can HBAR run 4chan on-chain (Frontend and backend)? ICP can. ICP = the future of the internet.

>> No.53313189

>>53313149
ICP is literally the only other coin I'm holding as I do really think it has made innovations in the space. That being said I'm still more bullish on HBAR because of enterprise adoption and large scale use cases that I haven't seen on other chains. I think there is definitely room for more than one DLT in the future, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if ICP and HBAR were both big winners.

>> No.53313437

>>53313149
Yes. Search hedera consensus service, smart contracts are already obsolete.

>> No.53313531
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Ill add that in the future youll need 100k hbar and a current 1337 level PC with 50TB or some shit. So in 10 years anyone of us holding over 100k will be able to host a community node as said PC will become a normal or low spec PC.

:)

Also Saucerswap is the most useable, fastest and cheapest DEX in all of crypto. It has its own native staking which compounds itself with hederas native staking, currently at 15-20% APY. Hedera native is 6.5% APY and will become the ROTH IRA or wtv boomer bs meme ppl tell you to invest in early for "retirement" LOL.

Lucky is the best shitcoin play for degenerates as it has only 7mil tokens that are burned...

10k, 100k. Disregard pajeets, XRP niggers, /pol/ chuds and any other faggot that will enter with 0 added information.

Here is CEO of DecimalPointAnalytics explaining how the future of Fintech will change and how a DLT (of which hbar is king) wil lbe the nucleus bringing to other EVERY sector. (Picrel)

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxqR-Bk50Jqox8oOujbJXhNiQkwQx_S1pO

God bless everyone

>> No.53313802

>>53313070
Shut up. My bags are not filled yet.
We know hbar is the best and why, you can’t force the blinds to see.

>> No.53314070

>>53313531
Didn't Leemon (pbuh) say you could run a Hedera node on a raspberry pi?

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>>53313070
Gm ser, you will redeem a ruppee for your service

>> No.53314285

>>53313802
Kek sorry anon I won't make any more posts

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53314300

No one cares about your foot fetish network and creepy ass fucking founder. bitdao buys hundreds of eth on the daily.

>> No.53314555

>>53313437
You have 0 idea what you are talking about. That doesn't facilitate full stack applications entirely on-chain.

>> No.53314658

>>53313070
>fake tps
>fake users
>fake transactions
>no DeFi
>not permissionless
>cant run your own validator
>cant scale
>centralized
>team full of jewish scammers

what could go wrong?

>> No.53314675

>>53314555
>You have 0 idea what you are talking about
thats how it is with the Hbar retards, the ICP mongoloids or the Poolygon jeets and even the Ethereum faggots.
they are completely clueless.

>> No.53315228

>>53314658
>makes absurd claims with no evidence or argument
Thanks for engaging in the discussion anon, we all really value your input!

>> No.53315286

>>53315228
try shilling your centralized trash jew scam somewhere else dumb jeet

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>>53313075
Thanks for adding this anon, I thought this was the case with Hbar, but you explained it way better than I.
Hbar actually achieves finality while the majority of the others do not.
I think only Algo and Xrp actually achieve finality and not probabilistic finality which is hugely important.
Anyway much appreciated for your take and throwing FUD like a monkey at the zoo.
Great thread and post.

>> No.53315923

>>53315333
based and checked.

I can't tell if I'm surprised that no other maxis have honestly engaged with this post so far. Obviously everyone sticks to their own threads for the most part, but I thought if I wrote a nice post someone from AVAX, ALGO, or some other layer one would pop in and explain themselves/what they like or dislike about HBAR.

>> No.53316784

>>53315923
There’s nothing. Perhaps supply fud, but that is quelled easily w native staking, and if you’re bullish, then buying Hbar at these prices. Nothing else compares and fundamentally they know this.

>> No.53316918

>>53314070
I do remember him saying something that running xyz on network isnt labour or energy demanding but i think from interviews runnind nodes he specified TBytes etc. I cant remember which vid, as Ive watched hundreds of vids with Leemon

>> No.53317476

>>53314555
That allows you to run the frontend locally.

>> No.53318624

>>53313070
>my biggest reason for liking HBAR is they have a real live use case
What use case? You mention something called atma.io but don't explain in any way what it does except generate transaction volume. You fail to explain how HBAR is practically different from any of the hundreds of other non fungible high throughput PoS chains out there

>> No.53318769

>>53318624
Stop being a nigger and go on YouTube for information

>> No.53318848

>>53318769
So this is the quality of Hedera's shill team? You haven't even rehearsed the most basic of questions that people might ask and instead call them niggers?

>> No.53319062

>>53318848

Nah faggot theres 4 other threads, your question is literally answered ad nauseum on hederas youtube... the 5min it took you to be a fag here, you couldve found that info on youtube FOR FREE.

>> No.53319079

>>53318624
>>53318848
Are there actually people that rely fully on /biz/ for answers? OP pointed you in the right direction, if you can't do the bare minimum amount of research to form your own opinions and actually engage in discussion then that's on you. Hedera threads have been full of deranged fudders for years now demanding to be persuaded to a standard that's impossible to meet because they don't bother to learn about the network in the first place or are just plain disingenuous. Watch Leemon's early lectures and interviews, Mance's discussions on the trilemma, etc. But you won't because you're here to shit up the thread. You are indeed a faggot and no one owes you anything.

>> No.53319127

>>53319062
>>53319079
Slap your boss and give him some skin whitening cream from me

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>>53319127
My boss is as white as they come.

>> No.53319516

Obsserving Raiblocks/Nano since 2017 had shown me that people don't care about cool tech, fast and cheap transactions, etc. And Stellar is a good example of adoption not translating to price action. Same shit with hedera - I got a small bag just in case, but I don't have high hopes for it.

>> No.53320371

>>53318624
As another anons have pointed out you’re probably not worth responding to, but this is a great video to understand atma.io. So I’ll link it for the lurkers.

>https://youtu.be/Fw5RyrJLvJw

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>>53313070
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53321542

LeemonSwap NFT pre-sale round 7 is imminent. How many HBAR do you have sidelined??

>>53319079
>>53319062
>>53315333
>>53314300
>>53313437
>>53313070

>> No.53322762

>>53321542
coffee openly talked about ways to scam users before he was fired
if you think anything has changed then you're a fucking moron and deserve to lose your money
leemonswap is a scam and juice will go to zero

>> No.53322830

I like HBAR but the supply is just soooo massive, like how can it pump with a supply this big

>> No.53322911

>>53322830
Look into derivatives
SAUCE & LUCKY

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53323064

>>53321542
oh my god fuck off with this nonsense no one cares

>> No.53323475

>>53323064
Then why are the NFTs selling like hotcakes every round? You can only cope when the facts are in front of you

>> No.53323589

>>53323475
because people are idiots and easily influenced
even if leemonswap does launch no one will use it