/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.53824976]

i dont understand this "taxes" thing.

im 39 and i never voluntarily paid any taxes my entire life, sure when i had a normal job back in the day it used to be deducted automatically, but when i rana business, i just asked people to pay me in cash or bank transfer, if they asked for a receipt id just make one in microsoft paint. never got any letters about taxes.

now i work for a crypto exchange and get paid in usdt, just cash out and not pay any tax. who are these retards that voluntarily pay taxes?

ive got a friend who makes like 100k a year from remote work in america and he toddles down to the tax office after filling out all these stupid forms that are mental torture and volunteers to hand over 20 thousand buckeroos to them.

wtf.

[Anonymous No.53825035]

>>53824976
and how are you paying for shit like a car and home?

[Anonymous No.53825131]

>>53825035
i dont need a car where i live. its a very compact asian country, and i pay rent in cash to our landlord who i assume is also not declaring it.

I'm from a european country originally and i had 15 years of my working life there never had any notifications about tax or nuffin.

ive lived in current country for nearly 5 years the whole time working illegally (no work permit just tourist visa) for crypto and cashing out my crypto regularly to pay for my daily expenses. probably going to another asian country this year, just go around permanently as a visa free illegal worker and accumulating large bags of crypto. by the time anyone realises ill have moved on.

[Anonymous No.53825165]

Based schizo thread, especially liked the blatant "I make receipts with Microsoft paint". I look forward to 50 shitskins arguing with you

[Anonymous No.53825296]

>>53824976
IDK I'm 37 and I stopped paying taxes ten years ago. You can tell whoever you work for that you stop automatic deduction and that you will do it yourself. If they complain you can legally compel them easily and quickly with a simple letter from your lawyer. State deduction is way easier, usually there is an actual form for you to put in to tell your employer you will do your state taxes yourself.

I mean its really simple, I won't pay taxes to zog. No pussy no taxes figures into it also, but the zog aspect is most important. I'm just not going to pay, its easy.

>>53825035
wdym? tax status has no bearing on credit score
I pay for everything in cash on the spot, and if people don't take cash I make their lives a living hell (its illegal to refuse cash payment in my state)

taxes are theft, and you never consented to be taxed at any point in your life

[Anonymous No.53825367]

>>53825296
i think they get you when you actually go and fill out one of their "forms" and then "file taxes" basically after that you've snitched on yourself and they come after you after you dont send another form the next year. if you just ignore the whole thing it just never affects you. all that "software that tracks every transaction and eventually catches people who dont pay taxes" is just a psyop like the TV detection vans to get people to pay their TV loicenses that was found to be total boolsheet.

[Anonymous No.53825543]

>>53825367
>if you just ignore the whole thing it just never affects you. all that "software that tracks every transaction and eventually catches people who dont pay taxes" is just a psyop like the TV detection vans to get people to pay their TV loicenses that was found to be total boolsheet.

basically this
they sent me a letter once but I just ignored it, in fact I burned it on my porch in my bbq
it's like some sort of normie shittest where you can just say no and they realize you're not worth the trouble

[Anonymous No.53825586]

>>53824976
reminder that income tax is voluntary and the wording used in the legislation is "voluntary compliance" intentionally. Though the IRS would still rather you pay the interest on the national debt, and most people keep eachother in check by reminding their friends and family to pay "or else the IRS will come after you", thereby keeping them complying out of fear for free on behalf of the IRS.

Have a free read from Peter Schiff's father who died imprisoned in the United States for writing books like this:
https://archive.org/details/irwinschiffshowa00schi/page/n11/mode/2up

[Anonymous No.53825588]

>phone rings: is this so and so?
no
>phone person: uhhh....does he live there?
no
>phone person: uhhh ummmm do you know him?
no, can you stop bothering me now?
>phone person: uuhh ummmmm (normie brain clanking and shutting down) could you umm...if he comes by...tell him...
*click*

what are they going to do? send an agent out over my chump change? they wouldn't dare, I live down a 1/2mile road in a totally isolated area
big no-no for zogbots, they only go after soft targets

[Anonymous No.53825611]

>>53825543
what did the letter say? im curious because ive never received any such letter, then again i never filled out any forms like you did. i-im just not very good with admin your honor im dyslexic and beaureucracy gives me back pain, glaucoma, anxiety, dyspraxia, PTSD, ME and the gypsy shivvers

[Anonymous No.53825626]

>>53825611
IDK, I just saw the internal revenue service header, rolled my eyes and tossed it in the charcoal
it may have been something benign for all I know

[Anonymous No.53825652]

>>53825626
they can't even prove you read it, if it was that important they would have worried it got lost in the mail and sent another one.

[Anonymous No.53825707]

>>53825652
one time somebody tried to deliver certified mail to me but I just told him to fuck off and get off my property

[Anonymous No.53825826]

>>53825707
oh right you own property. probably not a great idea to be a sitting duck. channel your in er jew like me and become an itinerant rootless cosmopolitan. if the heat catches up with you you can just flee in the night

[Anonymous No.53826018]

>>53825131
taxes used to ensure our roads and other public sectors were functional. now only big cities get any significant benefit from taxes, and rural areas have crumbling infrastructure. Personally I don't pay taxes since I work under the table but it is pretty stupid how niggers and people who don't pay taxes reap the benefits in big cities, with nice roads and nice bridges. Too bad cities and their nice exterior are usually covered in trash and smell like piss in America

[Anonymous No.53826095]

>>53825611
>gypsy shivvers
checked and kek'd

[Anonymous No.53826294]

>>53825296
It's called a W-4 ya larper. If you're exempt ya just write "Exempt" on your W-4 and turn it into your employer. Poof, no more income tax.

[Anonymous No.53826382]

>>53825586
>Have a free read from Peter Schiff's father who died imprisoned in the United States for writing books like this:

>anyone can avoid income tax! book
>*dies in prison for avoiding income tax*

[Anonymous No.53826398]

>>53824976
>>53825131
>taxes
>non american
>asian country
kys kys op

[Anonymous No.53826414]

>>53826398
>2023
>still being an American cuck cattle

Anon, I'm sorry.

[Anonymous No.53826429]

>>53826414
no one wants to live in Asia, go fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.53826465]

>>53825131
yeah if you live in a third world shithole im sure you can get away with it, if you even owe taxes in the first place. everywhere but usa is very easy to dodge taxes

[Anonymous No.53826551]

>>53825367
they let you run up a massive tax bill and then send IRS revenue agents to conduct a field audit. they know how much you owe because your employer likely has you personal information on file (social security number, name, DOB, etc.) and files this every year with state and federal government tax authorities when they withhold their employer portion of state unemployment insurance, federal payroll taxes, and so on. while they might not withhold your portion of taxes, they sure as shit are doing their part of withholding their portion of employee taxes, because the owner isn't risking federal prison time for your retarded ass.

if you don't make yourself available when the IRS makes inquiries, they make a determination in absentia and garnish the shit out of your wages or social security, directly from your employer. if it's bad enough they could arrest you.

t. accountant who interviewed for an IRS revenue agent role

[Anonymous No.53826562]

>>53826382
Wrong. Died in prison for writing a book about how to avoid income tax

[Anonymous No.53826587]

>>53826551
IRS garnishments only apply to the Federal trust in your name stylized in all caps (eg JOHN DOE). The individual has no obligation to pay.

[Anonymous No.53826620]

>>53826429
urbanite faggot lol

[Anonymous No.53826646]

>>53826587
okay be sure to take that up with the judge who orders your employer to garnish your wages

[Anonymous No.53826674]

>>53826429
There's more people in Asia than North America combined, you flyover state retard.

[Anonymous No.53828113]

>>53826646
>garnishment
Simply petition in Federal court for a Non-Negotiable Declaration in the Form for Trust Affidavit in Commerce.

[Anonymous No.53828159]

>>53828113
>simply
The real joke here is you're too poor to be bothered with

[Anonymous No.53828204]

>>53825035
see, this right there is the problem.

credit card debts, mortgage, car payment, kitchen furniture loan, FUCKING TV LOAN, IPHONE LOAN

stop spending money that is not yours fucking useless shits

[Anonymous No.53828228]

>>53828159
If a Federal court won't enforce the law, file a Notice of International Commercial Claim Within The Admiralty ab initio Administrative
Remedy.

[Anonymous No.53828252]

>>53824976
based beyond belief

[Anonymous No.53828349]

Taxes are mainly an honor system that people adhere to because of fear of the state surely coming for them.
Realistically the system won't be able to do shit in most cases because it can't monitor you well enough.
I don't pay shit either. I just send money from paypal to my own account and have done this for some years now. No one asks a single question and my official income is 0.
I just don't earn enough to raise any questions.
You could also do business through online payment system and just have a foreign bank account and do your business through that and still live on welfare in your own country without the system ever learning a thing.
I knew a guy who had a fortune of +100 mil and lived on welfare because he thought it was funny he could pull it off.
There are so many ways to evade the system that it's not even funny. People just don't do it out of fear or laziness.
This is why central banks want digital currencies. That's absolute control right there that you can't evade.

And I assume you live in Thailand or Philippines.
Those nations wouldn't even give you tax information even if you officially requested it.
Dealing with foreigners making money outside the country is too big of a legal pain to them so they just tell you to fuck off and do your thing.

[Anonymous No.53828762]

>>53824976
>>53824976
>now i work for a crypto exchange and get paid in usdt, just cash out and not pay any tax. who are these retards that voluntarily pay taxes?

You are answering yourself. They are imbeciles, only imbeciles would pay taxes for something that clearly does not serve you. In the precept of the constitution it is presupposed that taxes serve the common denominator of the people because the state has to take care of basic services. For us, those of us who made real money investing, it is unnecessary, therefore paying taxes is absurd.

As an example, my little brother (23 y/o) started to invest in $HAMI (a currency based on rewards in arbitrum) and he doesn't have to do anything but keep buying little by little to increase the amounts of the same currency and others (because they also reward you in other currencies like MAGIC) that he has, effectively making free money. He no longer pays taxes. KEK