Redditor loses all of his BTC and ETH in ledger hack

[Anonymous No.54295122]

kek let's laugh at his misfortune

https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/11ypwa8/why_is_my_ledger_empty/

[Anonymous No.54295165]

>>54295122
how much did he lose? too lazy to open link

[Anonymous No.54295172]

>>54295122
dont laugh at other peoples misfortunes its negative karma. the main reason its unrealistic to think crypto will take off with normal people is stuff like this

[Anonymous No.54295175]

>>54295122
Being robbed on the internet with no legal recourse is a FEATURE of crypto, not a flaw.
Hopefully the Jeet, Chink or Nork responsible will use the funds to educate his children to be smarter than this poor sap or the OP.

[Anonymous No.54295213]

>>54295172
kek maybe this is why half this board is broke lol

[Anonymous No.54295232]

>>54295122
Why tell reddit? I understand he's pissed and confused but what can anybody do?

[Anonymous No.54295239]

>Redditor
Stopped reading there

[Anonymous No.54295258]

>>54295165
Few hundred bucks

[Anonymous No.54295259]

>>54295213
I'm a penniless monk, I do it mostly because I refuse to contribute to the system.
I purposefully make posts so others laugh at my misfortune because it reminds them to humble themselves when they reach my level again.
Most probably just kill themselves but it's fine they weren't suppose to make it anyway.

[Anonymous No.54295271]

>>54295232
Call the FBI and the SEC and get this response?

[Anonymous No.54295283]

So what happened? Everyone with a brain realizes each hack like this on Reddit's frontpage is another $5 million some banker won't invest because it's too risky in his eyes.

[Anonymous No.54295319]

>>54295239
>Redditor loses
Kept reading

[Anonymous No.54295322]

>>54295122
This has me worried.

So I just checked my ledger to make sure my funds are Safu.

My funds are in fact, safu.

[Anonymous No.54295330]

>>54295232
buttcoin fudder

[Anonymous No.54295339]

>>54295283
>is another $5 million some banker won't invest because it's too risky in his eyes.
That door slammed shut with FTX. now the SEC is serving Coinbase notice.

All that's left now is for the connected whales to get you rubes to hold their bags while they cash out and try to vanish.

[Anonymous No.54295341]

The future of finance

[Anonymous No.54295342]

>>54295330
Potentially a Trezor Salesman.

[Anonymous No.54295356]

>>54295122
first of all, go back.
and secondly, larping is low T

[Anonymous No.54295416]

>>54295322
I actually hate self custodying. The risk is too real. I don’t have tens of millions of dollars I’m investing in security every year like an exchange does. Why the fuck do I even do this?

[Anonymous No.54295419]

>>54295172
>dont laugh at other peoples misfortunes its negative karma.
This is my sole source of pleasure in life. Maybe karma is real.

[Anonymous No.54295422]

Why is it always a retarded redditor?

[Anonymous No.54295462]

>>54295416
>I don’t have tens of millions of dollars I’m investing in security every year like an exchange does.
Is that what they are buying with all the money? Are you certain?

[Anonymous No.54295466]

>>54295283
I read the thread.
His crypto stayed untouched for a long time.
He then got his Google Account hacked at the end of January.
Starting February all his funds were drained
The idiot probably had his key stored in the cloud either as a picture or text file. But He won't admit it.
Case closed

[Anonymous No.54295486]

Check the Txid. Bro is posting paragraph after paragraph over losing $300

Should've bridged onto Arbitrum and got the airdrop

[Anonymous No.54295496]

> buys hardware wallet
> doesnt read the fucking manual that is like 1 page long

[Anonymous No.54295507]

So does anybody in this thread have an answer for how that could happen to him or are you all chinks and disgusting, smelly, ugly, horrible, filth Indians?

[Anonymous No.54295514]

>>54295122

[Anonymous No.54295516]

>>54295122
These are always so tiresome

>i heckin did everything right!

no you, let your seed out, somewhere, sometime.

[Anonymous No.54295526]

>>54295122
This reminds me of the time my bank got hacked and I lost all my money.
Just kidding. That shit only happens to cryptocucks.
>FUTURE OF FINANCE
>lmao

[Anonymous No.54295532]

>>54295122
I have zero sympathy for r*dditors. You guys though, I might feel bad if it happened to one of you, but only maybe.

[Anonymous No.54295537]

>>54295507
hes a retard and posted his seed online on his computer. he doesnt remember because he is a midwit redditor.

[Anonymous No.54295548]

>>54295507
he put his seed in a file or picture, making the hardware wallet useless

[Anonymous No.54295569]

>>54295507
It is always user error when ledger funds are lost. They always find some new dipshit way to compromise their wallet seed.

[Anonymous No.54295590]

>>54295507
theres nothing to answer to you fucking retard, see >>54295466

[Anonymous No.54295599]

>>54295122
Could be nonce issue: https://research.kudelskisecurity.com/2023/03/06/polynonce-a-tale-of-a-novel-ecdsa-attack-and-bitcoin-tears/

[Anonymous No.54295610]

>>54295569
it's also possbile a webcam or camera recorded the seed without him realizing

[Anonymous No.54295614]

Why tf would anyone use a ledger? Trezor is better in everyway

[Anonymous No.54295618]

>>54295122
its a psyop to make people feel unsafe in crypto.

[Anonymous No.54295648]

>>54295322
>>54295122
every time this happened it's a family member stealing the seedphrase.

[Anonymous No.54295650]

>>54295569
he fucking mentions his ex gf knew he had a ledger. then he thinks its impossible she took it because they broke up 6 months ago.

people are so retarded it pains me.

[Anonymous No.54295666]

>>54295618
Good.

[Anonymous No.54295673]

>connecting anything to a computer and expecting it to remain secure
seems a bit of a shit way of doing things, who knows what malware usb drivers targetting ledgers might be out there.

[Anonymous No.54295694]

>>54295666
>Good.

nice try Satan

[Anonymous No.54295707]

>>54295319
My kike accounting professor bragged about bitching to his broker about enron and got his money back. Dirty old man.

[Anonymous No.54295711]

>>54295422
It's not but they are the only ones with a platform to cry to that will ever see the light of day.

[Anonymous No.54295769]

>>54295610
He probably took a photo of it on his phone, then deleted it after transferring to an air gapped drive. Since his google account was compromised, the hacker could have recovered the deleted photo.

[Anonymous No.54295804]

His ex gf probably had a copy of the seed. Men are stupid about women and women are sneaky.

[Anonymous No.54295825]

>>54295673
wouldn't matter, the chipset holding the PK is write-only. The entire device could be compromised and the PK wouldn't leak without physical access

[Anonymous No.54295852]

>>54295825
Whoever store his funds, had a copy of his seed. There's no other way. He probably told his gf about his new ledger and how it works too impress her and she copied his seed.

[Anonymous No.54295856]

"Money" you either have to bury 50' deep in your yard or trust to Sam the 20yr old Jewboy and his goblina to "hang onto".

Truly the future of finance and transactions.

[Anonymous No.54295891]

>>54295213
I'm broke because I work in the non-profit industry
I accept my place
I just come here to laugh at people losing money

[Anonymous No.54296429]

Should have kept his crypto in the TrustWallet

[Anonymous No.54296456]

almost every time this shit happens its because some retard got phished at some point and was too dumb to even realize they got phished

[Anonymous No.54296515]

>>54295590
So it's FUD.
We can't really speculate on the correct answer based off of what he didn't tell us.
Did anyone press him in the thread?
It seems like a likely answer but if he's a faggot who won't say (even if he did have it on his computer) then this just serves to scare people away from Bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.54296633]

>>54295172
This. You can spin it however you want. Muh decentralization. Muh take responsibility for your own keys. The reality is if you’re one small accident away from losing your entire life savings with absolutely no recourse then crypto
will never, ever become mainstream.

[Anonymous No.54296792]

>>54296633
It's not that hard, at least not for me but I suppose some people will never get it.

[Anonymous No.54296797]

kek

[Anonymous No.54297077]

>>54296797
lmao no wonder this guy lost all his crypto

[Anonymous No.54297124]

>>54295852
Right, that would be the only way to get the PK. Seed phrase or physical access to the device itself + PIN. Anon I was replying to was suggesting that a hacker could get access to the seed/PK through an infected USB driver (or OS, or BIOS). That would be true if PK was stored on conventional flash memory, like a flash drive. But the chipset used in Ledger/Trezor to store the PK is specifically designed to be write-only (it can only write using the PK for signatures), so no matter what you plug it into, regardless of how terribly filled with malware - nothing is going to get to the PK. This is the chief advantage of having a hardware wallet vs just using an encrypted archive on a generic flash drive.

[Anonymous No.54297139]

[Anonymous No.54297176]

All right you fuckin retards. Price is irrelevant to this jewcoin. Marketcap is what matters due to the rebase. If you don't understand, fuckin buy then. Pic related. It looks like every other piece of shit coin that everyone forgot about.

[Anonymous No.54297228]

>>54295650
>his ex gf knew he had a ledger.

lmao, an inside job. Never let your girl know the location of the seedphrase or the ledger pin.

[Anonymous No.54297261]

>>54295804
Women are also really stupid. So if she wanted to get a copy of the seed she would sneak over to the seed phrase and take a photo of it herself. Then when her phone gets compromised the crypto is gone.

[Anonymous No.54297267]

>>54295172
This, we are all just trying to make it.

[Anonymous No.54297275]

>>54296633
>reality is if you’re one small accident away
Yeah, I mean people are able to get into this stuff without any a priori knowledge of, well... even the most rudimentary knowledge of cryptography. Never having even heard the terms "public key" or "private key" before. For someone with cybersecurity experience/education, it comes second nature. For someone who has spent a reasonable amount of time reading up on the subject and conceptualizing the process of encryption, it won't be second nature but they will know enough to not fuck up. Ever. It boils down to a binary understanding: public = PUBLIC, private = PRIVATE.

I would say the vast majority of people are capable of understanding the fundamentals of cryptography. It's just that they choose not to because it doesn't interest them. Then they come into crypto to speculate and don't really give a shit about how any of it actually works. Even after being told again and again that they should educate themselves, they will willfully ignore it "I don't care how it works, I just want to gamble". And then things like OP happens. That's just human nature at it's core - willful ignorance being exploited, again and again. Crypto is but a small subset of that, one that we can all verify and see plain as day on a public ledger. So it's the most obvious and egregious... and yet, the most honest, the most evident.

If people were somehow forced to educate themselves how any of this shit works before getting involved in it, the probability they would get scammed would go down somewhat. But not a lot. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.

[Anonymous No.54297278]

>>54296633
Crypto was never going to go mainstream anyway.

If something doesn't pass the mainstream test then it will never be a thing: Find a group of 15-25 year old girls. If you don't hear them mention a topic or if you ask them about the topic and they don't have a bunch of talking points about the topic, then said topic/thing is not in the overton window of normies. Society is built to cater to women, who are the primary consumers on the planet.

Until you see random stacies walking around with hardware wallets, your LE CRYPTO SECRET CLUB will never make you truly rich.

[Anonymous No.54297342]

>>54297278
>Crypto was never going to go mainstream anyway
Maybe so. But I think the point you are really making is that *self custody* will never go mainstream. Which has always been the case throughout history regardless of financial medium. The vast majority of people are incapable of self custody, for various reasons. Hence if BTC ever went "mainstream", it would be via custodians much like banks. In the end, nothing much would change for the average person. If anything it would just affect the collateralization on the settlement layer happening between custodians in the background. The primary difference between that and what we have now, is that you *could* be your own custodian, of settlement layer collateral, if you wished. And unlike gold, you could store a lot of it very securely, for very cheap. And move it cheaply as needed.

[Anonymous No.54297374]

And hard wallets are supposed to be safu.....

I'm telling all of you right now, you still need to download software to fuck around with this shit. As soon as you download the wrong software from the wrong site, your throat is about to get slit (financially). It's game over for you at that point.

[Anonymous No.54297424]

>>54297374
>>54297124

[Anonymous No.54297455]

>>54295172
It already took off.

[Anonymous No.54297460]

>Redditor loses sleep over $280
Oh wow thanks for posting this

[Anonymous No.54297465]

>>54297278
>If something doesn't pass the mainstream test then it will never be a thing: Find a group of 15-25 year old girls.

>do test in 1990
>ask if any girls use internet. nope
>do test in 1995. still no
>do test in 2000. still no
>do test in 2005. still no

your test is only valuable to see what's currently mainstream, not what's possible in the future once the network is big enough

[Anonymous No.54297511]

>>54297275
There’s wilful ignorance and then there’s genuine accidents. If you sincerely believe that you deserve to lose everything because you made an accident then you’re a retard. Accidents and genuine mistakes will always happen, doesn’t matter who you are. Think about it in the most basic terms of a system and how it functions. If we propose that cryptocurrencies will provide a system where the expected outcome of a user making an accident is for them to lose everything with no recourse, then that’s simply a garbage design and it will never see mainstream adoption. Social recovery does feel a a good middle ground solution.

[Anonymous No.54297581]

>>54295175
probably some fat honkey like yourself

[Anonymous No.54297666]

>make one wrong click
>lose life savings
>muh crypto

[Anonymous No.54297685]

>>54297666
It's the future of finance. Dontcha know?

[Anonymous No.54297692]

>>54297666
It's not that easy to fuck up. There are basic rules everyone should know and it's not that complicated.

[Anonymous No.54297693]

>>54295526
Sorry you havent made any money in this market and are salty about it. Many such cases. Bet you fell for the ta meme huh?

[Anonymous No.54297712]

>>54295419
karma is real. life is heaven or hell depending on what you deserve. I must have been a real cunt in a past life or some shit

[Anonymous No.54297720]

>>54295122
>hello this is Microsoft calling for your Microsoft ledger support.
>sir calm down sir I can't access your email sir, there are hackers in it.
>I see you are using gmail sir very nice sir, impressive I must say. you will need the google play card so we can secure your email.

[Anonymous No.54297740]

>Imagine paying all that money for an exploitable thumbdrive when a paper wallet exists

[Anonymous No.54297758]

>>54297740
you have to expose the private key to spend a paper wallet

[Anonymous No.54297835]

>>54297511
>deserve to lose everything because you made an accident
That's your presupposition, not mine.
> Accidents and genuine mistakes will always happen
Yep. Humans gonna human.
>Social recovery does feel a a good middle ground solution.
And now we're right back to the source of the problem laid out in the bitcoin genesis block. Socialized losses. Who's going to pay them? All the responsible people who took the time to understand how to self custody in a secure manner? Why would someone risk making an honest mistake to "lose everything" in the first place? Why do people self custody at all, if its such a stupid risk? Security, of course is one reason, if they are going to hold funds in any custody at all, better their own than a counterparty. But also, to escape a system predicated on socialized losses. If they simply wanted to speculate, they could do so through regulated futures contracts and avoid custody issue altogether. But then they are taking on the same risk of socialized losses and rule changing that comes with being in that system. Or having their funds frozen because... the government said so. The bank said so. The FED said so. Bailouts for me, not for thee... etc. Government sponsored systems can become quite fickle in times of chaos. A decentralized network built on cryptographic algorithms, on the other hand, won't change the rules when times get tough.

There are ways to perform self custody which are more user friendly. Achieving maximum security in a cryptographic system is always going to be marginally technical. That's a tradeoff in any security system: security vs efficiency. Current self custody systems are primitive, but they do what they were designed to do well, if you know how to use them correctly. They can take the PK from you physically, if you store the entire phrase in one location... but if you scatter it like a good pirate's treasure, they won't even be able to do that. There's no form of wealth which could be stored as securely

[Anonymous No.54297845]

>>54295122
go back, trannie

[Anonymous No.54297900]

His ex gf literally took a picture of his seed phrase sheet while she was planning to monkey branch to a guy with a bigger truck and smaller dick. Every time.

[Anonymous No.54297935]

Your sole counterparty is the network and the algorithm it uses based on SHA-256. And I guess, yourself, and your ability to properly secure your PK in a resilient fashion.

In 2^256 I trust.

[Anonymous No.54297956]

>>54295466
I searched both the tx ID and the address or ether scan and got “Search not found
Oops! The search string you entered was: Oxa93866b69a0fd57b11f5e7058c32bec8007a8ddee939d352a1659f8b9b9fc
Sorry! This is an invalid search string.”

Same message for the address. The idiot sent his eth to the ether kek

[Anonymous No.54297970]

>>54297278
Men world != woman world

Half of this thread doesn't know what Brandy Melville is despite it being popular and mainstream for 15-25 year old teenage girls. While my GenX family members (men) were picking my brain about crypto earlier.

[Anonymous No.54298015]

>>54295122
I fell victim to scams in my early days on this board years ago. Happens to everyone. For me I was lucky enough to be a poorfag but it burned me on crypto for quite some time.

[Anonymous No.54298026]

>>54295707
only based kike

[Anonymous No.54298042]

Lmao the address contains shibdoge . He’s a CCP scammer

[Anonymous No.54298064]

>>54297835
You're going to get shit on because this is nu/biz/ and full of normalfags and shitskins, but you're absolutely right. Unfortunately we won't have our lolbert utopia because the majority are too stupid to save themselves, but those that understand will remain sovereign while the rest become cattle.

[Anonymous No.54298113]

>>54295283
>what happened?
OP lied. His seed phrases/private keys were stored somewhere on his google cloud server (which got hacked) which the OP won’t admit.

[Anonymous No.54298226]

>>54298113
I store my seed in a passworded zip file in my google drive. Is that safe?

[Anonymous No.54298285]

>>54298226
It's over.

[Anonymous No.54298372]

>>54298285
oh I forgot to mention, it's been sitting there since 2017

[Anonymous No.54298392]

wasn't there a 'zero day' hack of some BTC atm things a few days ago?

[Anonymous No.54298491]

>>54295172
You're 100% right and that's why I laugh every time I hear someone rambling on about 'the technology' - we're here to make money, if you've convinced yourself otherwise you've already lost. Cryptocurrency is literally garbage with zero real world functionality other than sales tax evasion.

[Anonymous No.54298518]

>if you are "support" please reply
Fucks sake do redditers seriously not understand bots spam anyone on any board (or whatever the fuck reddit calls them) that target people any time keywords are said?

[Anonymous No.54298574]

>>54295172
karma isn't real, indianbro

[Anonymous No.54298595]

>>54295416
>Why the fuck do I even do this?
fiatcels have lost their entire savings
if you're worried about hacks, you can always divide your holdings /EOAs
also, stop using windows

[Anonymous No.54299250]

>>54298226
So thats what that zip file is.
Brb just made a copy, gonna brute force it.

t. google emplyeeshtmnw

[Anonymous No.54299273]

>>54298595
>also, stop using windows
over the past week I've wasted ~10 hours trying to install gentoo onto my computer; it hasn't worked
I'm sticking with windows

[Anonymous No.54299278]

>>54295650
>he fucking mentions his ex gf knew he had a ledger. then he thinks its impossible she took it because they broke up 6 months ago.
audibly kek'd

[Anonymous No.54299284]

>>54297278
>I base my financial decisions on the opinions of teenage girls
nigger you're actually retarded

[Anonymous No.54299368]

>>54299284
Nigger, he is not actually retarded. He is saying that normal-faggot females are a good measure of whether something is mainstream.

[Anonymous No.54299379]

>>54298491
midwit

[Anonymous No.54299391]

>>54299284
It's fine if you just do the opposite. You know once braindead stacies start pushing around the idea it's time to drop that stuff like a bag of flaming shit.

[Anonymous No.54299428]

>>54297758
>you have to open a notebook or pull a piece of paper from your filing cabinet, this means exposing it
you're a retard.

[Anonymous No.54299506]

Ok so it was just some retard who lost some pocket change. Either way these threads scare the shit out of me

[Anonymous No.54299517]

>>54299368
>>54299391
You incels do realize that just because you are bitter and sexless doesn’t mean you have some profound knowledge pertaining finance right?

[Anonymous No.54299580]

>>54295172
Im not laughing at this. The risk is all too real, and like everyone using a ledger I'm never 100% sure my funds are still there until I logon, and everytime I do I feel I'm creating a vulnerability. Very difficult to think entirety of world system of money can operate this way.

[Anonymous No.54299777]

This is why the safest approach is just to keep your crypto in the Coinbase vault for long-term. Most of us are too stupid or reckless or barely understand what this shit even does to safely store if for 5-10 years on some gayass USB stick.

I'll take my chances with the .1% odds that an exchange too big to fail goes down vs. me fucking up and getting hacked or losing my shit and then being pissed at myself forever.

[Anonymous No.54299807]

>>54299777
You're being irrational anon.

[Anonymous No.54299811]

>>54299517
You roastie realize you will never be a virgin again and you will never attract a high value male to have children with?

[Anonymous No.54299821]

>>54299811
>you're not as valuable as you think
>why don't you settle for me?
this trick doesn't actually work on women, anon

[Anonymous No.54299848]

>>54296633
Normalfaggots are NOT the target of crypto.
The target is either:
1) rich smart people who desire absolute sovereignty over a significant part of their funds and an hedge in case banking/the state fails/goes after them (read about Lebanon or Cyprus)
2) absolute destitute thirdies who only have a phone and an internet access in shitholes with no real financial infrastructures for them.
Crypto is a sigmoid.

[Anonymous No.54299885]

>>54299777
Something like this

Crypto will only go mainstream with the use of centralised platforms, 99% of crypto activity will take place on Coinbase etc.

The only people using self custody will be bitcoiners and eth heads who actually have a significant amount of money to protect.

Retards who are just gambling $500 on shitcoins have no need to even bother with self custody

[Anonymous No.54299888]

>>54297278
>Society is built to cater to women, who are the primary consumers on the planet.
Paris Hilton's gone all-in on crypto and NFTs, for whatever that's worth

[Anonymous No.54299925]

>>54298574
Karma is real. Try it out, make an experiment.

[Anonymous No.54299939]

>>54296633
Rothschilds were always one step away from losing everything playing their game and the bet paid off. Just think what you’re doing.

[Anonymous No.54300144]

>>54295599
>redditor
Nonce issue confirmed

[Anonymous No.54300265]

>>54295122
nice
>>54295172
>>54297712
>negative karma
kek
no such thing

[Anonymous No.54300286]

>>54295172
>the main reason the internet will never take off is cus normies dont understand it

[Anonymous No.54300292]

>>54300265
>clearly I'm not well versed enough
>posts on reddit

Well yeah that's a safe bet.

[Anonymous No.54300334]

>>54299811
dude just think rationally

who do you think is smarter, a dipshit like you who cant even get laid. Or a turbochad shitposter like myself who can't even imagine life without frequent sex? Do the math, kid.

[Anonymous No.54300363]

>>54295172
the concept of karma is satanic, repent

[Anonymous No.54300408]

>>54295122
Friendly reminder that this can happen to anyone

[Anonymous No.54300417]

>>54300408

[Anonymous No.54300444]

>>54300363
if you believe that satan exists you must believe some form of karma also does. dont you believe that to get to heaven you are judged by the way you conducted yourself in life? what is that if not karma?

[Anonymous No.54300457]

why the fuck isn't there a ledger with two factor auth

[Anonymous No.54300463]

>>54300408
>>54300417
All the people who say
>dude had to be stupid enough to give his info to a scammer lul
prevent work on legitimate security issues.

[Anonymous No.54300508]

>>54300417
>quantifianble diexlclusivisoion moduiles
>swith your nodal threshold
lol

[Anonymous No.54300563]

>>54295122
There exist compromised ledgers on the market.
So you have to be very careful from where you get them.

[Anonymous No.54300579]

So someone got hold of his seed phrase...nothing to do with a "ledger hack" then.

[Anonymous No.54300685]

>>54295172
Karma doesn't exist, budbud dingding. There is only Allah's justice.

[Anonymous No.54301149]

>>54297139

[Anonymous No.54301302]

>>54299777
Jackpot checked

[Anonymous No.54301334]

>>54300265
>y’all

Kek, and lecturing the world too

[Anonymous No.54301403]

>>54296633
>The reality is if you’re one small accident away from losing your entire life savings with absolutely no recourse then crypto will never, ever become mainstream
this was the near-norm in finance for thousands of years, you really expect that level of development to be solved in less than 2 decades with maybe 1% of the world holding the asset?

get real

[Anonymous No.54301467]

>>54298226
If it's encrypted in zipcrypto, pull it as soon as possible. It needs AES-256 encryption, and even then, the password needs to be long enough etc.

[Anonymous No.54301774]

>>54295507
The only way this is possible, besides him leaking his seed, is he purchased the ledger from a 3rd party, who before sending to OP, opened the device to reveal the seed, repackaged it and sent to OP. Waited until funds were loaded and bridged out. But I thought you needed the physical ledger connected via USB to your computer to confirm transfers, unless they duped the hardware signature to another ledger.

It's unlikely. The real reason is 1) he's fud larping. 2) his seed was leaked by being a dumbass

[Anonymous No.54301842]

>>54297465
kek!

[Anonymous No.54301902]

ITT: autistic nerds over-analyzing shit that doesn't matter at all

[Anonymous No.54302188]

>>54301403
It’s still easier than the past even in its current state. Memorising 12-24 words is infinitely easier than protecting a bag of gold coins at all times.

[Anonymous No.54302332]

>>54299273
>Gentoo
FFS, never listen to /g/. They know less about tech than /biz/ knows about finance.

[Anonymous No.54302424]

>>54297139
Unironically had this conversation with my father-in-law and he had been investing his own pension funds for 10 years. He literally thought there was some kind of a void pool of stocks that he was buying from and selling into, he never once considered that there actually had to be another person/corp on the other side of each trade.

[Anonymous No.54302492]

>>54301902
Welcome to 4channel

[Anonymous No.54302529]

>>54297139
We do be like that

[Anonymous No.54302618]

>>54299250
I thought I was supposed to use that to zip up my crypto...

[Anonymous No.54302713]

>>54295165
>lost $280
>I haven't slept properly last night
what a colossal faggot.
who loses sleep over less then $300.

[Anonymous No.54302762]

>>54295507
He probably got a good deal on his hardware wallet from a retailer selling backdoored hardware.

[Anonymous No.54302855]

>>54295122

Trusting some random 3rd party with your crypto keys? idiot

[Anonymous No.54303475]

>>54301149
kek'd

[Anonymous No.54303531]

>>54303475
>haha guys we're so stupid.

[Anonymous No.54304617]

>>54297278
Cuck faggot

[Anonymous No.54304721]

>>54299848
This smells like the cope of a former buttcorn maxxi

[Anonymous No.54304834]

>>54295239
yeah this guy is absolutely tech/crypto illiterate, people like that shouldn't do self custody

[Anonymous No.54305978]

>>54295175
Schloppy is that you?

[Anonymous No.54306256]

>>54300417
>its not ok to stay ignorant
Thats a glowie phrase tho why did you use it?

[Anonymous No.54306440]

He didnt secure the ledger

[Anonymous No.54307372]

>>54300457
It's called "passphrase"

[Anonymous No.54308634]

>>54301467
yes, it's encrypted with winrar's aes-256 and the pass was generated by keepass. is that safe?

[Anonymous No.54310136]

>>54296633
With a car, you are one small accident away from losing your entire life, period. Yet cars took off.

[Anonymous No.54310635]

>>54306440
Looks like that to me. Normies have no clue how crypto works with the quantum threats the wallets will become more vulnerable. Best to migrate to a quantum proof L1 for better security.

[Anonymous No.54310643]

>>54295172
Fuck you faggot

[Anonymous No.54310647]

>>54297139
lmoa

[Anonymous No.54310791]

>walls upon walls of text from OP and other redditors trying to figure out how $280 went missing

what a waste of time on everyone's part

[Anonymous No.54310845]

>>54295507
user error.
But just in case, never generate a seedphrase in ledger itself. Just in case they salt the seeds or the generation algo has a vulnerability.
You have to generate a seedphrase yourself on an offline pc or even better using physical casino dices and a paper.
Then import it to your hardware wallet.

[Anonymous No.54310875]

>>54297455
>A crypto just flew over my house!

[Anonymous No.54310877]

>>54296633
there are going to be banks for crypto, it will be streamlined for normies living paycheck to paycheck.
The true value of crypto is that you CAN take self custody and control how much you give to a bank. s well as the fact that it is inflation proof.

[Anonymous No.54310906]

>>54310845
Are you retarded

[Anonymous No.54310919]

>>54310643
That anon is just a moron fuck him. This year with crypto wagmi. I have been consistently building my profile with Large caps and low caps like ETH, AVAX, QRDO and QANX. I hope these will moon once the bull run begins.

[Anonymous No.54310988]

>>54310906
search up the vanity address generator called profanity. Not a hardware wallet, but the same principle, a vulnerability or intentional error in the generation of addresses lead to only a small possible pool of possible addresses being generated. This was then reverse engineered and lots of eth addresses got cleared out.
This can happen to or be discovered with hardware wallets as well, which is why you should generate your own wallet and import it.

[Anonymous No.54311048]

[Anonymous No.54311406]

>>54310877
Interesting but I can manage my own funds. With crypto I can buy anything or hire any service at ease. All i need is a fast, cheap and simple crypto payment processor and I have my go to which is Utrust.

[Anonymous No.54311519]

thanks for reminding me to check my ledger /biz/ bros
and always make sure to never buy them from a 3rd party

[Anonymous No.54311768]

What's the point of a hardware wallet? Just write down your seed phrase on a paper or something.

[Anonymous No.54311843]

>>54311768
>seed phrase just on paper
>computer is compromised
>wallet is drained because no hardware needed to approve transactions

[Anonymous No.54311898]

>>54311843
>computer is compromised
Skill issue.

[Anonymous No.54311900]

>>54295466
this is probably the answer, fucking idiot deserves it.

[Anonymous No.54312233]

>>54300444
Christcucks are autistic about what you call things even if they're the same things. God's powers aren't magic.

[Anonymous No.54312313]

>>54295172
Fuck off, nigger
I hope you lose every penny, you weren't going to share your winnings anyway, dumb motherfucker

[Anonymous No.54312318]

>>54295172
rare blessed post

[Anonymous No.54312391]

>>54302713
Kek seriously? Why are rebbit finance fags so fucking embarrassingly poor? You'd think a lot of them would at least have beta bux.
I remember during 2021 I saw some rebbit post of some guy celebrating that he invested another $18.00. Something like
>it may not be much, but it's a start :)
>added another 5000 Doge to my portfolio
>to the moon guys!!!

[Anonymous No.54312591]

>>54295496
>It’s all so tiresome.

[Anonymous No.54312640]

>>54299821
he thinks high value men are interested primarily in virginity and not finding a woman within their same social status

[Anonymous No.54312727]

>>54297692
The number one rule is lose your seed phrases, you lose your money. Ideally your seed phrase is worth the value of your money in the blockchain, the ledger is just a conduit to deposit or withdraw the funds, that’s it.

[Anonymous No.54312878]

>>54295319
Only if you're a bank durr

[Anonymous No.54312980]

>>54302713
>>54312391
Give him a break, he's italian, it's a fortune down there.

[Anonymous No.54313021]

>>54310877
>>54310136
>next level shitcoin baggies' copium

[Anonymous No.54314619]

>>54308634
Safe as you can make it while trusting google. You're better off finding a service with "zero-knowledge" encryption. I remember spideroak has some freemium service.

[Anonymous No.54315278]

>>54297465
Based

[Anonymous No.54315484]

>>54297176
why did you post ampl?

[Anonymous No.54315513]

>>54295172
based and empathypilled
God bless you anon

[Anonymous No.54315533]

>>54295122
>>54295172
punishment for being a midwit. learn to airgap or get bent.

[Anonymous No.54315687]

>>54295122
To all of you losers using citrix for logging into their wfh systems, your computer won’t pick up the ledger. Uninstall citrix when accessing ledger live.

[Anonymous No.54315690]

>>54297342
This.

[Anonymous No.54315974]

>>54311898
Can literally do transactions on the most virus addled computers securely with a hw wallet
it's more useful than paper

[Anonymous No.54317178]

>>54295122
aint clicking that

[Anonymous No.54317213]

>>54295650
I thought women can't operate anything

[Anonymous No.54317251]

>>54295239
Lol cyber reindeers?? does he even have to ask

[Anonymous No.54317385]

>>54300286
normals aren't responsible for keeping the internet secure tho, or even their own accounts
which is half of the reason most stuff has moved to 2FA, accounts and services rather than self-hosted
we need account abstraction for the retard majority

[Anonymous No.54317405]

>>54295122
I have half a bitcoin in my ledger, i sure hope those niggers didnt steal my life savings.

[Anonymous No.54317422]

>tfw read this entire thread then the plebbit wall of text before the conclusion this is all for a whole $280

[Anonymous No.54317458]

I just make new wallets every 6-12 months because I'm crazy paranoid.

[Anonymous No.54317464]

So wait keeping your seed phrase on your Google account is bad?

[Anonymous No.54318194]

>>54317458
I just bought 3 new ledgers after reading this thread lol

[Anonymous No.54318473]

>>54295614
Because it has a secure element and you don't have to type your 25th word on a computer like you do with Trezor

[Anonyɱous No.54319153]

>>54311768
>seed phrase on a paper or something.

[Anonymous No.54319269]

>>54296633
The shitcoiners crying at this are hilarious. Your ponzi scheme will never be a success. None of you niggers will ever make it off of crypto.

[Anonymous No.54319308]

>>54313021
>>54311406
how is this flawed? transaction cost is a real problem for smaller transactions. 99% of people would be better off with crypto being their main currency, even if it were all in Banks. In a sense we would return to the days where currency was tied to gold, just better.

[Anonymous No.54319340]

>>54302713
>less then
>then
do the world a favor and kill yourself now
in the future we will need people with an IQ over 80

[Anonymous No.54319352]

>>54295507
He took a picture of his seed an uploaded to his Google account.
His Google account got hacked.

[Anonymous No.54319422]

>>54295172
>karma

[Anonymous No.54319429]

Bros how do I protect my seedphrase. I have it written on paper and nowhere else. Should I get a security box at a bank?

[Anonymous No.54319434]

>>54297261
Nice story, did this happen to someone on incelforums?

[Anonymous No.54319446]

>>54308634
Just boot up a linux live stick and create a seed in there, offline
Write down the seed on a paper and hide it/split it up/whatever

What is so hard doing that?

[Anonymous No.54319448]

>>54319429
punch it into steel and/or laminate it

[Anonymous No.54319465]

>>54308634
>Proprietary software for password generation and storage
Now say goodnight

[Anonymous No.54319534]

>>54319446
Based, I did that with an old cold wallet I've had since 2017. Six years strong. People are too dumb when it comes to opsec.

[Anonymous No.54319721]

I found $90 of some old shitcoin in Metamask last night and I swapped it for MATIC and then sent it to an ETH addresses on my cold storage wallet.
Bummer.

[Anonymous No.54319977]

>>54295122
Chad must have let out his seedphrase to his girlfriend who is cheating with another guy. You can't fud selfcusody fucktard.

[Anonymous No.54320032]

>>54297278
Kek, this is dumb.

Assuming females are the primary consumers, crypto is not for consumption but rather will be popular around the primary providers(men). Adoption will definitely be enhanced with these failing bank spree and as there is more privacy in DeFi.

[Anonymous No.54320048]

>>54299888
NFTs are still a thing? It always sounded like a joke to me till I saw some privacy in NFTs and the potential use cases.

[Anonymous No.54320057]

>>54319429
Figure out how to create passphrase accounts and store funds in those, then store your entire seed on steel plates in multiple secure locations. If someone finds the seed, they still won't be able to get into your accounts without the passphrase. If they get the passphrase, they won't be able to get in without the seed. Keep the passphrase and seed stored in separate locations (maybe store the passphrase on an AES-256 encrypted archive on a flash drive + uploaded to cloud or some shit). Leave a bit of funds on the main, non-passphrase account as a bait to alert you if the seed has been compromised. If compromised, move funds out of the passphrase accounts into a new seed and repeat the process. boom gg

[Anonymous No.54320227]

>>54299777
Based.

[Anonymous No.54320231]

>ledger
al i needed to know

[Anonymous No.54320350]

>>54299777
The ledgers are retarded anyway since it’s a flimsy non durable usb stick. It’s going to degrade fast. You prob need to buy new ones and every 5 years. Fucking blows.

[Anonymous No.54320367]

>>54300265
>interwebs
Instantly removes all negative karma.

[Anonymous No.54320379]

>>54295172
It will not take off because it will get banned, once exchanges are banned cryptoautists will have nowhere to sell, and nothing to buy with, since anything relevant bought with crypto will also be banned. inb4 tards trading 0's and 1's in black markets.

[Anonymous No.54320437]

>>54312391
I invested 15$ into doge and it topped out at 1.8k

[Anonymous No.54320532]

>>54299777
so you can get hacked... but exchanges cannot?

[Anonymous No.54320601]

>>54297139
Makes me laugh everytime

[Anonymous No.54321191]

>>54295416
>[crypto exchange investing] tens of millions of dollars in security every year
pic related is the security system they really bought

[Anonymous No.54321369]

>>54295599
>omg new vuln
most of nonce attacks were made in 2013, unironically 10y ago, because of SecureRandom vuln in some Java versions on some Android phones, nothing new under the sun

[Anonymous No.54321391]

>>54296633
safer than the money in uour bank account lmao
you get rugged by inflation, banks blowing up, kike banks rugging you, gov and central banks rugging you

[Anonymous No.54321607]

>>54295707
cap
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.54322010]

>>54295122
>ledger
>approved by french nsa
Nuff said. Use trezor.

[Anonymous No.54322031]

>>54295416
Ok, CZ.

[Anonymous No.54322543]

>>54297374
The space is not space but projects should invest more in security. Utilizing QVM features on platforms like QANplatform can go a long way in keeping these fuckers away from our data.

[Anonymous No.54323608]

its catgirl season bois alts gon get send but micro gems are gon 1000x

[. No.54324045]

>>54320048
Saw that features on secret network and railgun.

[. No.54324076]

>>54323608
ORE, HBAR, TSUKA

[Anonymous No.54324197]

>>54320532
Most of of your btc on exchanges isn't on the Blockchain. Its inhouse paper

Infact 50% of btc volume is off chain

[Anonymous No.54324426]

>>54310877
There is fake liquidity in Bitcoin ie stablecoins. The Bitcoin market is as propped up on thin air as the central banking system. It’s mainstream now in the fact that you can ask anybody if they know what it is and chances are they do. Accept the fact that you’re late to the party and move on to the next thing that Stacie’s will laugh at you for being into but the nerds are up to

[Anonymous No.54324970]

>>54298491
>pbtid
fuck off kike pawn
verification not required

[Anonymous No.54325612]

>>54295122
he's probably lying about it to get out of paying taxes

[Anonymous No.54326338]

>>54317213
They can pretty well operate men though. Probably her new bf did this.

[Anonymous No.54326372]

>>54297511
How do you lose all your wealth by accident other than being retarded and destroying the only copy of your private key that you stored on some cheap SD card?