/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.54344163]

>Chainlink advocates: noooo stop asking the team to clean up their payment model and force link payments to ensure value is flowing into the token you have to believe in the tech stop talking about the token

>team: starts cleaning up their payment model and will soon shed some light on their link conversion system for payments

This is why biz based critical linkies are better than these twitter advocates fags. When something is wrong they say it. Advocates are completely retarded and xrp level of stupid. They still think that whatever the team does they should just say it's great and shut down any criticism

[Anonymous No.54344266]

>>54344163
Chainlink twitter killed this board, I'll give you that

[Anonymous No.54344286]

>>54344266
imagine if we hadn't gatekept the first 2 years, how much worse it would've been

[Anonymous No.54344325]

>>54344286
I mean, there's a thread currently where they say chainlink "flipped the switch". How worse can it get?

[Anonymous No.54344336]

>>54344286
What were you doing the last three years other than losing out to literal post office tokens?

[Anonymous No.54344341]

>>54344325
check Twitter and find out

[Anonymous No.54344351]

>>54344336
exactly, LINK is a brutal scam
highly recommend pivoting into stamps

[Anonymous No.54344369]

>>54344351
Eth is still beating eggs, oil, and real estate, even down by 50%.
Link bled out straight through the entire bullrun, and now you've gotten your dick bitten off by the mailman.

[Anonymous No.54344380]

>>54344369
exactly man. I hope you're shorting LINK with everything you got, otherwise you're pretty much a stinker yourself

[Anonymous No.54344399]

This thread >>54341553 is a good example of it. Fucking cultists should fuck off back to twitter. Look how much improvement we’re getting due to the people who actually have financial interest calling out Sergey for shit that needs change.

[Anonymous No.54344409]

>>54344380
It's gotta be close to the bottom. It'll probably see its ath next run. Not worth the shekels though, when throwing a dart can net you a zero thought 10x.

[Anonymous No.54344425]

>>54344409
ew, you sound like a stinker
your token is not going anywhere bucko, let alone ATH

[Anonymous No.54344508]

>>54344425
I don't care what I sound like.
I'm in it for capital gains bro.

I wonder what next run will look like. Defi is dead and not coming back. Probably just retarded collectibles shit and games. Idk, we'll see.

[Anonymous No.54344518]

>>54344399
So first off, yes, criticism is good because it helps see if the project is going the right way and also reminds the team we're funding them so they should not forget about the token. But even more than that I FUCKING HATE THESE FUCKING REDDIT ANTIFUD POLICE THEY'RE SO DUMB MUH UH YOU SAID SOMETHING SLIGHTLY CRITICAL GUESS YOU'RE A FUDDER UH SO MUCH FUD IT MUST BE THE BOTTOM YOU MUST BE A TOP BUYER HAHA. While most of us hold since 2018 and were always critical like that and don't mind doomposting during the bear

[Anonymous No.54344526]

>>54344336
What’s up with the weird crop?

[Anonymous No.54344563]

glad SORA uses band protocol and not chainfaglink

[Anonymous No.54344597]

>hey bro just invest in this backend piece of crypto infrastructure and once you've bought in join us in fudding the fuck out of it so that no normies can buy it and honestly even if we didn't fud it it would be extremely difficult to explain as it requires quite a broad baseline understanding of decentralized systems but even so we will just constantly shit on it through every media avenue possible and that way we can stop anyone from ever figuring it out and the price will just languish in single figures for years because it's like a secret club bro and there won't be any normies in our club bro and we'll just fud all the time and make no money and keep it a secret what are you waiting for

[Anonymous No.54344614]

>>54344518
Ngl i made that thread in your screenshot kek. I shitpost sometimes, but honestly thats my thread i linked too. The cultists who cant take any criticism should go hold xrp, or play bagholder bingo on something else. They strike me as lucky faggots who would be doing that on something else if they were not spoonfed and found link at right place right time.
Meanwhile people like myself who almost gave up on crypto when I couldn’t think of a solution to the “weakest chain issue” back in 2017(my own term for oracle problem I conceptualised in my head) till i found LINK and have been spoonfeeding ever since. The past year or so some clear issues have cropped up that need some critical analysis and criticism, so i have been doing it. These fucking cultists dont get it.

[Anonymous No.54344654]

>>54344526
What are you, the fucking screen shot police?
>3/10 would not save to fud folder

[Anonymous No.54344669]

>>54344163
Spoiler: the token is NOT needed

[Anonymous No.54344717]

CHAINNIGGERS TONGUE MY ANUS

CHAINNIGGERS TONGUE MY ANUS

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CHAINNIGGERS TONGUE MY ANUS

[Anonymous No.54344722]

>>54344669
I sincerely hope it doesn't happen to them, because they don't deserve it, but there's a rumor payment is switching over to all cash, and Link is being re-rolled as a governance token for regulatory compliance purposes. I argue with these guys all day for sport, but I wouldn't wish that shit on anyone.

[Anonymous No.54344756]

>>54344163
There were always faggots trying to get the majority of us to stop fudding. Remember /stealth mode/? And the one or two queers that begged the majority to shill to Reddit in 2018/19

[Anonymous No.54344793]

>>54344614
Thanks anon, you actually have no idea how soothing your post is to me. Lately I thought I was going crazy, since the team felt so disconnected from reality, not realising the discrepancy between token value and the value of the network. And cherry on top Sergey's fucking one liner btw guis we won't require link for payments anymore. And then here it was either full stupid fud or dull stupid shilling, it's like all the old linkies disappeared. Actually, I was the one who saw first the Arbitrum betrayal because I followed their git and it was clear gas would be eth. But nobody here would believe me and they were all screaming and calling me a fudder. These were the early signs. I fucking hate this, I hate that community advocates are now on this board vomiting their xrp tier sentiment prop up shit I'd rather just read fud this is truly disgusting and also counter productive. I wonder if the team didn't do this deliberately to not be annoyed by the community anymore.

[Anonymous No.54344797]

>>54344722
Have you heard CLGs latest interview with Sergey?

He sounds like a complete midwit, I can't believe /biz/tards hyped Sergey as some sort of high IQ autistic genius. He says the most basic shit ever while also seeming completely disinterested with a hint of narcisism. He made more than $500 million without even delivering a product, why would he care about some retards holding his bags on 4channel? He already made it

[Anonymous No.54344824]

>>54344756
Yeah but now it's like they're the majority

[Anonymous No.54344828]

>>54344797
>makes sense
t.nastyslob

[Anonymous No.54344838]

>>54344163
That was my favorite picture until the -95% which destroyed my sanity.
I will never again be able to be all in in this. Too much betrayal for me to stake everything on them.

Also it's easy to fix their conversion system.
Just create a 5 or 10% tax on transactions by burning the equivalent amount of LINK so that value flows into the network.

A part of this burned LINK supply can be generated like for ETH to use for the community pool for example or to pay for development costs.

[Anonymous No.54344847]

>>54344756
>stealth mode
>10 threads in catalog with pics of fat dump that used the word REDACTED
>also 20 regular link threads
I remember distinctly. That was just a way to keep shilling and bypass the people using filters. The shilling also metastasized to /x/ and /pol/ around that point.

Everyone back then knew how to read a chart in sats. How the fuck are there still some of you who didn't sell? Guess the <90 >140 meme was real...

[Anonymous No.54344857]

>>54344838
>just burn the supply and buyback the token sir
lmao based village feeder jeet with his groundbreaking never seen before tokenomics

[Anonymous No.54344862]

>>54344793
I knew arbitrum had betrayed mid 2021 when they revealed their funding round and that they had taken that big VC cock.
From that point it was obvious to me they were not going use Chainlink -anymore-. I do believe they planned to before they took the VC cock. Its clear they wanted to continue to harvest the free marketing though.
Plenty of us left. Some seem to be more bitter than me and cant help call sergey a fat fuck(including myself sometimes) and a lot of cultists take this to immediate dismissal of the critisism. Its ok to call everyone a poor nigger when shiling but if you meme even once and call money belly a fat fuck instead you are a degenerate low value fudder(which also exist).
There are definitely enough of us to have caused a difference and the Chainlink team are changing shit so ignore the cultists and carry on.

[Anonymous No.54344872]

>>54344793
>>54344862
someone didn't get the ARB airdrop lmao. better luck next time

[Anonymous No.54344899]

>>54344872
i got over $18k worth of arb and sold it all for nazi silver coins cause fuck pedokikes
and fuck that fatass sirgay too

[Anonymous No.54344905]

>>54344899
>b-but muh based SirGay will make us rich!

[Anonymous No.54344919]

>>54344872
looks like someone got stuck holding useless bags lmao
>m-m-muh arbitroon free moneyz

[Anonymous No.54344926]

>>54344872
Why do you think i didn’t get an airdrop if i knew the moment they took VC cock they were going to eventually launch a token and not use LINK?

Fucking retard. Consider yourself GRACED with my fucking reply and spoonfeeding over the years, and not my valid criticism which has caused changes for the better.

[Anonymous No.54344931]

>>54344862
You know that Chainlink have VCs as well retard, literally had a Coinfund VC listed as an advisor originally

[Anonymous No.54344948]

>>54344919
how does it feel to know every single detail about Arbitrum and what Ed Felten said and see others get 5 figures from it while you get nothing? lmao
all that after buying the top of LINK as well, lmao x2

[Anonymous No.54344956]

>>54344931

They had some angel investors, but they seem to have almost no actual control if you look close enough. They did not do a typical VC round upon round they did one tiny seed round.

[Anonymous No.54344973]

>>54344163
GREAT post MARINE!!!!! SURELY this will be the big thing that moves price

>-2% per usual.

WOW!!!! Do you have anymore TVL, ahem…TVE INFOGRAPHICS!?!? Id just love to shove one up my ASS!

Looking forward to seeing you at the GAY yacht party. We can slip below deck and get to know each o—ACKKKKKKK

[Anonymous No.54344982]

>>54344926
look at this over emotional crybaby phoneposter. received so much ARB that he's crying on a Monday on /biz/ lmao

[Anonymous No.54344987]

>>54344857
The key is to burn more than what is generated to create deflationary pressure just like ETH.
https://ultrasound.money/

They can even use a similar principle of burning more the more the network is used or defined a percentage that can be generated.
They should use every existing idea to improve their own system.

[Anonymous No.54345011]

>>54344163
the twitterfags have been posting daily "CCIP is going live tonight" for 2 years straight and they post 4chan quotes that have any positive shit about chainlink lmao

[Anonymous No.54345067]

>>54344163
We need to keep up the pressure. I for one make sure I do two things:

1) post really hateful obnoxious replies on Twitter
2) send sensible suggestions via email and sometimes discord in a kind tone

[Anonymous No.54345076]

>>54345011
Twitter has always been a cesspool. Its now a cesspool of low effort fudfags who cant even articulate what needs to improve just like it was full of normies who can’t articulate fuck all about why Chainlink matters before ofher than check in on chainchinkgod.
I was looking at the official twitter and some people started posting screencaps of my criticism in the comments so thats good at least

[Anonymous No.54345108]

There's constructive criticism which is good, and then there's people like this who is probably in this thread right now

[Anonymous No.54345205]

>>54344987
It is absolutely mind boggling to me that link and their have forbidden the community from talking economics this whole time when it is pretty clear something is wrong with it.

[Anonymous No.54345226]

>>54345205
tokenomics

[Anonymous No.54345239]

>>54344163
Funny how the fudders have done more for Link’s success than people like chainlinkgod

[Anonymous No.54345295]

>>54345067
I think this is a good approach. Twitter is their investor shopping window so they will want to keep it clean. Constructive criticism via email and discord so that they get a clearer idea of where the disappointment comes from

[Anonymous No.54345314]

>>54345239
That useless fuck cannot even dispel the most basic incorrect fud. A few weeks ago someone posted a screencap of him arguing with long winded replies about when Chainlink was rank 11 with a tiny amount of network revenue on some website. He went on long mid wit tangents explaining why xyz mean its fine for it to have such low revenue….

Guess what? The fucking website was just plain wrong. Way, way WRONG. He couldn’t even fucking tell. He’s literally paid to be an advocate and thinks himself some huge brain. Absolute fucking retard. He wasted so much time posting long midwit responses when he could have simply said “its wrong”. What a clown. It is a bad fucking look for Chainlink brand.
Hopefully axing him is also on the agenda as many have been calling for for a long tome for Chainlink to stop associating these those twitter faggots

[Anonymous No.54345315]

>>54345239
Imagine how many good ideas have been gatekept by these "community advocates" because they're more worried about their Twitter clout than passing actual feedback onto the team.

[Anonymous No.54345354]

>>54345315
And that failure Adelyn effectively outsourced CMO to him for 2 years…

[Anonymous No.54345377]

>>54345315
wait, you legitimately think these twitter tards have any say in what will Chainlink do next? lmao
they aren't even given any valuable information which isn't already public in the first place, their entire job is to basically just sum up already released public information and make it digestible for the masses, that's it.

[Anonymous No.54345390]

>>54345354
don't talk shit about adelyn, incel.

[Anonymous No.54345418]

>>54345377
They evidently fail at that even. They have damaged the brand more than helped it.
Not to say a person doing such a job isnt good. Chainlinkgod and the oracle just suck very bad at it. Also, they have definitely taken bribe money from other projects to shill them which resulted in harm to followers. Thats not good at all for tue Chainlink Brand.

[Anonymous No.54345451]

iit: OP patting himself on the back with like a dozen IPs.

I bet when CCIP launches you'll claim fuddies made that happen too lol

[Anonymous No.54345541]

>>54345418
>Also, they have definitely taken bribe money from other projects to shill the
I'll give you actual reality: they are just stupid and actually believed those third parties are safe and sound which is why they used them and got royally fucked as well.
you imagine these twitter tards as some rich in-control puppet masters when in reality each of them have less LINK and money in general than any regular OG /biz/tard. they didn't get money, they LOST money in the process of it all, both in USD terms and their LINK stacks as well, which weren't even that big in the first place

[Anonymous No.54345617]

>>54345541
No. Im not one of those schwab spamming le ilumonati faggits.
I know they(chainlinkgod etc) are just stupid as i said above. It is still not good for the brand.

[Anonymous No.54345690]

>>54345205
They are afraid of the SEC and being labelled a security and can't talk of the economics...
Fuck the US mafia government.

Our best hope is getting a resolution to all the attacks from the SEC soon because of their abuse of power through the justice system, or waiting for Trump to come back and murder them all.

[Anonymous No.54345710]

>>54345690
>abuse of power
afaik they haven't actually sued a single crypto based on anything other than the Howey test (which is 80 years old).

Gensler talking crap doesn't count, actual legal action does.

[Anonymous No.54345737]

>>54345710
The SEC should be disbanded and the power hungry parasites in it should be sent to a prison.

[Anonymous No.54345822]

>>54344793
wait what the fuck? link isn't used to pay nodes? isn't that the whole point of the token? what will it be used for then? god i thought i would make it

[Anonymous No.54345884]

>>54345377
They're also supposed to be distilling feedback from the community and passing it onto the team. Except they haven't been doing that, and instead just telling the team that the community loves them. Now that the dissenting voices have got too loud the team is finding out that the community doesn't think everything is all rosy. Why do you think the community advocates were scrambling telling everyone to just sell and leave if they didn't like what was happening? Because they realised they were about to get found out for lying about the state of the community for years, and tried to cover up by getting the dissenters to go away.

[Anonymous No.54346160]

>>54345884
you're forming imaginary headcanons every time you post giving these twitter tards far too much credit, they have 1% of control you think they do.
no, they are not analysts or CMOs relaying data back to heads of Chainlink, they are quite literally just glorified blog posters with close to zero say when it comes to changing anything about the Chainlink business

they are just dumb and naive, it's not that complicated. go listen to any of their "community" podcasts and you'll understand, the only thing they do is regurgitate information which is already public

[Anonymous No.54347108]

>>54346160
WTF, have you ever worked a job before? I'm not giving them any kind of credit, I'm saying that collating and passing feedback is a basic tier task, the kind of stuff you can get interns or 1st year grads to do. It's not difficult at all, and they wouldn't be passing it directly to the CMO or anything. It would go to their boss first (Rory) who would then prepare a report to take to monthly meetings to then pass on to higher ups.
Why are you trying to defend the community advocates from even doing the simplest tasks that their roles should entail? Have some standards man.

[Anonymous No.54347337]

>>54344163
>thinks Chainlink turning on the money printers was biz fudsters doing
Jesus how naive are you? You think Chainlink were just going to provide services free forever? The plan was ALWAYS to bootstrap the network by providing free services and get everyone hooked. You're seriously a complete retard if you think your endless screeching was a driving force in anything kek

[Anonymous No.54347386]

>>54347337
Announcing an intial lockup up to 24 months only to backtrack after community backlash and reducing the lockup to 12 months was also part of their plan I suppose, right?
shut the fuck up cultist

[Anonymous No.54347449]

>>54347386
Thats the worst part about being a modern spoonfeeder. These faggot cultists will dumning kruger through when things turn around and think “heh, i defeated those fuddies, it was all fine”. In reality, the people criticising causing some changes. Adelyn got fired. They chnahed the lockup. They did the quarterly report. They acknowledged the ccip lie and even said they want to hear the bad too on the latest podcast for feedback. This is all a direct result of what we are doing.
The stupid cultists belong in XRP or vechain or some other bagholder community. They would be ordinarily but somehow they stumbled into LINK

[Anonymous No.54347599]

>>54344163
They wil ALL pay. And it'll be glorious.

[Anonymous No.54350387]

>>54347599
checked. wow that was completely organic and not a staged marketing event. buy another fucking ad

[Anonymous No.54350509]

>>54347386
Yeah bro, it was twatter and their
>constructive criticism
Not NodeOps or people that build with link.

[Anonymous No.54350921]

Bump

[Anonymous No.54351147]

>>54345108
This was all within the span of 24 hours kek Even deranged bag holders wouldn't be this obsessed.

Plus he uses the term "cuck" which is being used by organized FUD groups.

[Anonymous No.54351513]

>>54347449
its amazing how much power we hold with the weapon of spreading an average day on /biz/ over to twitter
especially since these are information channels the team cant censor so they have to play ball with us or their search for devs and investors to build is going to be a lot harder
i for one dont intend to relent, the team showed some improvements but the twitter advocates will receive the full dose of fudding at everything they do
and then i will collate these pictures and send them over email to the team to encourage them to remove the advocates

[Anonymous No.54351544]

>>54344163
I wont buy chainshit until CLG and the oracle fags capitulate

[Anonymous No.54351560]

>>54350387
>everything is an ad but also there are no ads so buy another another ad ad infinitum
>i am very intelligent

[Anonymous No.54351714]

>>54344838
As long as my link is not burned I’m OK with this

[Anonymous No.54351858]

>>54344163
fantasizing again? you've never even run the chainlink software. no one cares what you think, you delusional monkey. these threads of yours always make me laugh

[Anonymous No.54351991]

>>54347599
dangerously based

[Anonymous No.54352992]

>>54347599
Checked, keked.
Token needed.

[Anonymous No.54353243]

>>54347108
>pass on to higher ups
Kek good one

[Anonymous No.54353709]

>>54347108
>Why are you trying to defend the community advocates from even doing the simplest tasks that their roles should entail?
Advocates are a volunteer position, not an actual job, it's not paid. They do it for free.

[Anonymous No.54353782]

>>54347386
Community feedback didn't reduce the lockup, the first messaging was way too conservative on purpose. They team acknowledged the wording was confusing so they updated the blog with the v0.2 iteration plans. You didn't change the execution plans, although you (anons) definitely shape how things are communicated

[Anonymous No.54354461]

>>54345314
Yep. I still can’t comprehend why they decided to put a guy called “ChainlinkGod” on their payroll. If they were really that insistent on hiring Zach they should have at least demanded he change his stupid Twitter handle as part of the condition of his employment. Sadly his username is the least of our concerns. Guy has an enormous ego (remember “I’m the frog version of Sergey”?) and is a big part of why a good chunk of the crypto community rolls their eyes at Chainlink. Don’t forget that shady bullshit that happened with that Don_Chainlink faggot who lost his LINK and by some miracle a mysterious donor gave back all his LINK. But don’t worry, ChainlinkGod privately confirmed nothing funny was going on.

I’m glad that Chainlink has seemingly taken notice that people are not happy. The fact that they organized a bullshit podcast to try address some of the concerns people have would have been unthinkable a few years ago. Chainlink historically (and they still do) have had an attitude where they’re too good to answer to anyone. But now that not even their most religious followers is falling for their bullshit anymore they’re being forced to change some things. Chainlink has done some good work, but there’s also a ton of things they could be doing much better.

[Anonymous No.54354489]

>>54344351
The smart money is moving into Arabic gum

[Anonymous No.54354526]

>>54351513
Insanely based. Got a good feeling lads, some optimism I hadn't felt for years, it's like biz link is back

[Anonymous No.54354532]

>>54344163

[Anonymous No.54354744]

>>54351714
The node operator has to convert what he receives for his payment into LINK.
Then he will burn 5-10% of this payment and only keep the remaining 90-95% for his own income which he will dump on the market for $.

The current network subsidizes node operators too heavily at the expense of the network itself.
They should not receive 100% of the income generated by the network even with staking.
The network has to receive some of the income produced because node operators rely on it to make money.

With the current economics node operators are parasites profiting from the system without providing anything directly to the network outside of "implicit staking".
The token economics should not rely exclusively on staking by node operators.

[Anonymous No.54354811]

>>54345314
I couldn't tell either for his defense and can't make a correct estimation of the network state because of this.
I find it difficult to estimate the income of the Chainlink network because of all the different features and fragmentation across different chains.
It would be a good idea if Sergey paid someone from his company to update such a website.
He should do something like this to show network activity in real time and other stats:
https://ultrasound.money/

Do you have a current estimation of their network income?

[Anonymous No.54355209]

>>54354461
The funniest part is they think all the worlds banks are gonna use their shitcoin. Could you imagine a room of execs looking at frog tweets from a guy calling himself god. So cringe

[Anonymous No.54355836]

>>54355209
Well it could make sense if they pay in fiat and link conversion is done in the background

[Anonymous No.54356998]

>>54355836
Ok sweaty