/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.55407269]

are Honda's only for millionaires now? kek

[Anonymous No.55407297]

>>55407269
A stock EG Civic hatch is actually very rare and would probably sell for a reasonable price. It's a good project car.

[Anonymous No.55407317]

Yeah, they and Toyotas. Its sad really. Civics and Camrys are the most reliable models out there, and they're meant to be more of a budget car. But because they're so reliable compared to others, prices have skyrocketed because everyone wants them. Low inventory doesn't help. So now, ironically, poor people can now only afford shittier brands, which don't even make sedans anymore, which further inflates prices, and older luxury cars, which quickly depreciated due to the need to constantly replace parts. Now, since poor people can no longer afford reliable cars, they are losing more money in needing to make repairs more often. This market is completely fucked.

Oh yeah, and Florida just banned car sales directly from Manufacturers, so now you are forced to go to a dealer and pay massive market adjustments and their other bullshit.

If you're poor, I'd say your best bet is a Nissan versa or similar model. If you can find one. Basically great value Toyota.

[Anonymous No.55407344]

>>55407317
precovid people were going crazy buying $50k to $90k SUVs and trucks, likely from refinancing their $10 million dollar homes

[Anonymous No.55407345]

>>55407297

[Anonymous No.55407355]

>>55407269
>mfw I drive a 2013 Honda Accord
Lower your tone when speaking to me

[Anonymous No.55407371]

2004 WRX checking in (the one without the headgasket issues). Subaru are unironically only for the wealthy class because of how often their engines fail (except EJ205).

[Anonymous No.55407377]

>>55407355
sorry sir your lawnmower is exquisite.

[Anonymous No.55407410]

>>55407355
if it's not a v6 then you're a gigantic faggot

[Anonymous No.55407464]

>>55407371
Can confirm I had an 04 wrx and the engine blew at like 94k miles. I was a kid and abused it but still

[Anonymous No.55407477]

>>55407371
>>55407464
Why are Subaru owning faggots posting in a thread about far superior Hondas?

[Anonymous No.55407524]

>>55407477
honda is a soulless appliance on wheels

[Anonymous No.55407634]

>>55407524
>implying subarus have soul
lmao

[Anonymous No.55407681]

>>55407269
I got picrel for 56 - far superior in every way to a fuckin’ HONDA. German Engineered 8-Speed Auto with the 6.4L HEMI. Last of its kind. Pure kino.

[Anonymous No.55407703]

>>55407355
>Mfw I do all the work on my 2010 Corolla
Suspension is being redone this summer.

[Anonymous No.55407707]

10th gen Civics are absolute sedan perfection. Fucking ruined it with the new design

[Anonymous No.55408756]

>>55407707
Ugly
11th looks million times better

[Anonymous No.55408799]

>>55407269
American cars and korean cars are getting more reliable. Honda and toyota will soon get replaced in the market if they dont get their shit together soon

[Anonymous No.55408897]

>>55407707
>4 doors
cringe

[Anonymous No.55409482]

>>55408897
4 doors more whores

[Anonymous No.55409759]

>>55407269
Why would anyone willingly buy japshit at that price? Their only value was "le reliability" and relatively low price. At that price point it’s better to just buy a German car and, you know, alien concept, change oil once every 7k miles or so, japchasers are very against this but yeah

[Anonymous No.55409812]

>>55407707
I got the SI and absolutely love it

[Anonymous No.55409829]

>>55407317
>car sales directly from Manufacturers,
how did this work before? did honda have an outlet or did they just mail you the car?

[Anonymous No.55409833]

>>55407371
just stop getting the turbo ones retard. the standard non turbo impreza engine lasts forever

[Anonymous No.55409838]

>>55409759
lol

[Anonymous No.55409840]

thank u glorious nippon for making the best middleclass suburbanite vehicles

[Anonymous No.55409912]

>>55407269
Jesus fucking christ, Civic Type R are that expensive now?
I paid 39.5k for my brand new 2015 Civic Type R GT back in 2016.

Still as much in love with it as I was 8 years ago, car I bought new and intend to drive for 15-20 years.

[Anonymous No.55410254]

>>55407681
>6.4 litre, 8-cylinder engine
>Not even 500 HP
It actually takes skill to achieve that, well done Chrysler.

[Anonymous No.55410273]

how about a new eclipse?

[Anonymous No.55410392]

>>55409829
It prevents manufactures with no existing direct-to-sales system from doing so. It's not as bad as they make it out to be. Florida has no manufacturers to placate apart from Tesla.

[Anonymous No.55410456]

I drive an electric car that I bought with cash and have driven for 5+ years at this point

[Anonymous No.55410490]

>>55407297
Just don't get in an accident. You will die when your tin can is hit by a 5,000 lb modern car.

[Anonymous No.55410518]

>>55410392
seems like a good one for once. manufacturers only sell direct for full mrsp. no dealers no leverage

[Anonymous No.55410550]

Any of ya'll ever drive the Ridgeline? I've been eyeing these

[Anonymous No.55410799]

>>55407317
Anything made after 2004 is pure shit. Including the Civic and Camry. In fact, the Camry started going down the toilet right after the 4th gen. Mythical Toyota, Honda and Nissan reliability is exactly that: a myth. Don't believe me? Go to carcomplaints com and do your own research.

inb4
>my 2017 Camry has 900 billion miles on it and runs perfect.
It's a piece of shit and you know it by your repair bills.

[Anonymous No.55410993]

>>55410799
I had a third gen camry that would start in -40° weather everything worked like new except the fucking radio antenna mast motor/cable

[Anonymous No.55411108]

>>55407371
>just drive a beat to shit wrx that some punkass redlined for fun
Gtfo

[Anonymous No.55411320]

>>55410799
Dumb take

[Anonymous No.55411336]

>>55410550
lesbian car

[Anonymous No.55411372]

>>55410799

Lmao you’re a fucking retarded faggot whom probably doesnt have a drivers license. 8th gen civics and accords are reliable as fuck. 8th gen civics and rsx’s have k-series engines which is arguably the best engine build Honda has ever engineered. Fucking dumb usdm faggot

[Anonymous No.55411373]

>>55407317
I have been researching a car purchase for the past 18 months and will share with you the absolute best value, although it is still not "cheap"

Buy a 7 year old Lexus ES 350 or Toyota Avalon.

They are the absolute best made cars with an expected lifespan of 250,000 to 300,000 miles (or more)

Both were considered a high end car, so a 2015 avalon has all the features of a 2019 camry, but is bigger and better seats and brakes. Same with the ES 350.

they are considered "old people cars" so there are many available mid-early 2010s cars with under 50,000 miles on them becauuse old people don't drive much anyhow and then they didn't drive hardly at all during covid.

roughly, a 2017 avalon or es350 with 40,000 miles shoudl run about $25,000 and prices drop about $1000 for each year older or 10000 miles more on it, so you can find a 2012 with 70k miles for under $20,000 and still get 150,000 - 200,000 miles of use out of it.

[Anonymous No.55411385]

>>55407269
Cruising on Honda Accord here and have booked Honda Pilot via CryptMi app for my vacation in UAE next week. It's a Honda world.

[Anonymous No.55411407]

>>55409759

It’s a fucking type-r you stupid faggot. Japanese cars are superior than nazi cars in every concievable way. Your favorite song is beemer boy by lil peep isnt it? Rofl fucking end yourself nig

[Anonymous No.55411476]

>>55409838
> manual transmission
ahh the ultimate roastoid and zoomer repellent

[Anonymous No.55411483]

>>55407269
That's a pretty crude shoop.

[Anonymous No.55411504]

i have a 2022 subaru wrx. worth every penny

[Anonymous No.55411527]

>>55410550
>body on frame
>AWD
It's fine for hauling your dragon dildos around on weekends but if you're actually going to do truck things it'll be shit at it. Which is fine because 80% of truck owners never use their vehicles as trucks. At least it's better and cheaper than a Maverick but has less soul than a Baja.

[Anonymous No.55411541]

>>55407297
>A stock EG Civic hatch is actually very rare and would probably sell for a reasonable price.
Would you want to tell that to Kathy Underwood, single mother and waitress at the local diner, who's selling this car for $900 on Facebook Marketplace so she can finally pay off her student debt from community college and have enough for a bike to go back and forth to work (her mom can drive her farther, usually back from the bar or some guy's house).

[Anonymous No.55411656]

>>55411527
Basically I just want a truck I can easily put a bike or surfboard in and convert into a camper when the fancy strikes me. But your picrel is much sexier.

[Anonymous No.55411710]

>>55411656
Put a roof rack for the surfboard and a bike hitch on a Toyota Matrix then. Mine fits an 8 foot surfboard inside because the front passenger seat folds down. And I can sleep comfortably in the back with the rear passenger seats folded down.

[Anonymous No.55411794]

>>55410254
It goes over 500 when you look at the performance pages. But 485 is - I suppose - the sustained baseline if you will. Don’t care. That engine will last between 300-500k. And I get compliments everywhere I go. A lot of people think I look a glowie with it all blacked out…Kek but it really is an all-business looking car. Gorgeous.

[Anonymous No.55411835]

>>55407707
Slanty headlights. We need to return to round.

[Anonymous No.55411846]

50k is cheap for the new type r its 75k in the eu

[Anonymous No.55411847]

>>55411794
Chrysler interiors are so ugly. I could never buy one. Shame though

[Anonymous No.55411872]

>>55411847

[Anonymous No.55411879]

>>55411847
Comfy

[Anonymous No.55411883]

just bought a brand new 2023 brz being shipped straight from nippon what am i in for

[Anonymous No.55411889]

>>55407269
>looks better
>no market adjustment
>low sales so they'll do anything to get it out the door
>90% as good as toyota in reliability and parts are similarly priced
>ok pricing
Mazda is the new toyota

[Anonymous No.55411890]

>>55411872
>>55411879
Not for me personally. Good car still

[Anonymous No.55411917]

>>55411373
also this. boaty sedans are out of style too, so if you want toyota, this is an alright move. if you want to be even cheaper, find crown vic and other panther body cars in good condition. they're the only ford you should buy.

[Anonymous No.55411925]

>>55411890
>>55411917
I wish FORD still made these. Bunch of dumb fucks for axing it if not only .gov was to blame alone…

[Anonymous No.55411931]

>>55411925

[Anonymous No.55411946]

>>55411931
>>55411925
cool as fuck. i don't know what the fuck ford is doing anymore.

[Anonymous No.55411957]

>>55411946
Everyone on the road just instinctually moves out of your way

[Anonymous No.55411959]

>>55407317
The msrp on the base Corolla is still pretty reasonable (relative terms). Base Mazda3 as well. Honda went too high now especially with the exclusion of the Fit.

[Anonymous No.55411981]

>>55411656
buy a minivan you retard
instead buy a gayass "truck" and then put an even faggier tent on the back so you can have a pointless divide between cab and bed

[Anonymous No.55412115]

>>55411925
>>55411931
>>55411957
Marauders are cool as shit definitely buying one if I make it

[Anonymous No.55412129]

>>55411407
Lol

[Anonymous No.55412139]

Not only will you compete with the entire planet for jobs, houses, but cars will also be in inflated. You will live in your car and you will be paying 1000 a month in financing and you will be happy

[Anonymous No.55412161]

>>55412139
Part of the reason cars initially got so expensive was the stimmies. When the stimmies ended the price of cars should have collapsed as everyone ran out of free money - nothing a few million illegal immigrants can’t cure! The bubble must keep inflating at all costs.

[Anonymous No.55412175]

>>55410799
Bills? I repair almost everything myself because I'm not retarded.
>He pays another man to change his oil
Kek

[Anonymous No.55412185]

>>55407269
>the top of the range sport model is expensive
yes

[Anonymous No.55412192]

>>55412161
Yeah anon, people were totally buying cars with $600 checks, yup, that makes sense. It had nothing to do with a chip shortage and heavily impacted supply chain.

[Anonymous No.55412194]

>>55412139

[Anonymous No.55412214]

>>55412192
Many were getting unemployment checks that were more than the minimum wage they were getting + a 1200 dollar stimulus + 600 dollar checks you moron. Yes, believe it or not giving people an extra few thousand dollars they wouldn’t normally have might lead to them purchasing cars you dumb ass redditor

[Anonymous No.55412227]

>>55412192
My 19 brother got a 6000 dollar check from unemployment as well as the 1800 dollars in stimulus. You don’t think this leads to car purchases? Are you high?

[Anonymous No.55412238]

>>55407269
I mean its not that bad when you really look at the numbers. A four year CS degree will net you AT LEAST a MINIMUM TC of about 240k STARTING. You literally go 4 year CS --> 240k STARTING and then a little later you get managment roles or senior roles and you are at an AVERAGE of 350k-400k, so people getting to 550k. EVERYONE goes from school to a samsara, google, snapchat, ect. This literally what people are doing but then posts like this get made I don't get it. Everyone right now is on the CS train getting their average TC at 240k - which is 20k a month and more than enough to pay for houses at 7% interest rates. Average houses are less than 3k the average starting minimum for most all CS degree holders at 240k so it kind of balances out. Ditto with most car prices. The numbers make A LOT of sense and you don't need millionary TCs to do it.

[Anonymous No.55412250]

>>55407269
I'm always surprised how many BMWs people are trying to get rid of for under 10k

[Anonymous No.55412256]

>>55412250
That’s because they’re shit cars

[Anonymous No.55412268]

>>55412250
That’s because at 10k miles the onboard computer deletes the cars ability to not burn oil

[Anonymous No.55412346]

>>55412214
Wow great argument, I'm sure you have some sort of proof to corroborate your claim, right?
>Unemployed people were being given loans
Lmao

[Anonymous No.55412363]

>>55412238
Lmao you can literally do a basic Google search to see how many people are making that kind of money. You're fucking retarded, ignorant, or possibly even disingenuous if you honestly think EVERYONE is a cs major working for a fortune 500 company making several hundred thousand dollars a year.

[Anonymous No.55412396]

>>55412346
Low wage unemployed people were given a supplemented 600 dollars on top of their wage idiot.

There were plenty of 400 dollar a week mcjobbers that got on unemployment during lockdowns who were getting the 600 on top of the 400 they were already making. What do you think they did with the money dumb ass? They bought a bunch of shit. If you were unemployment long enough you made out with thousands of dollars they otherwise wouldn’t have had if you factor in the stimmy checks.

[Anonymous No.55412437]

>>55409838
>looking to trade for an LC500
who does this guy think he is

[Anonymous No.55412444]

>>55412346
And also add to the fact that if they were already saving for a car, the extra stimulus and supplemented unemployment pushed them over the edge. There wasn’t just shortage of chips, there was massive demand increase for vehicles as everyone was flush with free money.

[Anonymous No.55413364]

>>55411656
Bro just set up the tent on the ground, wtf