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>graphic designer
>$36,400

>> No.55509751

Developer 18000€

>> No.55509753

I thought you "creatives" made a ton of money.

Do you at least get to pick your hours and work remote?

>> No.55509759
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>>55509751
?
Developing what? A low level software dev in the UK can expect at min 27k or so.

>> No.55509777
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>>55509745
Im a graphic designer and I make $47k.

>> No.55509788

>>55509753
ha, no. this is a field with a low barrier to entry, it doesn't make a lot of money unless you get some lucky gig. I don't work remotely because in my job I have to do "production" which means making physical signage.... hours are 7 - 3 or 9 - 5.

>> No.55509797

>>55509777
that's a fair wage for the field I'd say top of the range is $60k for managers, then your rage to my range is mid... and then $28k and under low.

>> No.55509826
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55509826

>Web developer
>60K

>> No.55509831

>>55509751
seriously? I thought devs made a lot of money, are you a front end web developer or something?

>> No.55509854

>>55509788
not to mention all the stuff the you do can just be done by an overzealous boomer boss using open ai. also the fact that you are competing with pajeets on fiver never goes away

>> No.55509892

>>55509745
>>55509777
where are your og memes then faggots, make something

>> No.55509991

>>55509759
>>55509831
Backend logic private sector

>> No.55510042

>>55509854
>>55509788
Wow, I feel for you. I would honestly switch to a new industry.

>> No.55510055
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>>55509777
Same but I get to wfh and it's very chill job. If you haven't learnt yet, get an in house role.
>>55509892
I delet most my memes after I posted a couple times and let anons decide if they're worth reposting.

>> No.55510076

Chad accountant here. Starting my first job out of school, 1 internship in REPE and now doing valuation. 80k starting next Monday. Feels good.

>> No.55510080

Graphic design is one of the greatest grifts of modern times. If you are some art fag who thinks you will get to be creative, good for me. You are a retard. The goal is simple, manipulate normies with pictures. It's childs play really. Red makes them angry. Blue calms them down. Once you stop trying to be an artfag and understand what you are hired to do, you can shit out half assed work in 10 minutes and tell your boss who doesn't know what a .png file is it took 8 hours.

>> No.55510085

>>55509797
I make 70k as a graphic designer and I feel I’m underpaid. Will be asking for raise ina. Month or two. Know I’ll get one, the only question is will it be what I ask
Graphic design is a field with a very wide potential income range. It’s such a generic term. I hate calling myself a graphic designer because everyone thinks it’s a field exclusively for 22 year old art degree stoners

>> No.55510136

>>55509777
>>55509745
how did you find a job? I'm doing freelance graphic design for 6+ years now. have never been able to land a job tho. do you have education or something? I'm also eurofag, so maybe that's the reason. there's maybe 10 design-related vacancies total in my whole country and 9 of them are web design

>> No.55510147

>>55510136
>make a website portfolio
>apply for 200 jobs
>find the 1 a roastie or jeet was just too retarded to justify rejecting you over

>> No.55510165

>>55510136
Do you make ok money freelancing or is it a slog? When I worked in design studios they'd charge crazy amounts. 1-day project would have me set for a month if I had the clients. I wouldn't recommend leaving if you're comfy.

>> No.55510205

>>55510165
it's not stable and I'm getting tired of constant stress of searching for new clients. I always thought it would be a lot easier to just work at some agency but they all turn me around.

>> No.55510247

>>55510205
Agency work sucks. I struggled hard to get into a few to try make it into a cool creative workspace when I had more motivation. They work you like a dog, expect you to always be doing over time and each place has a weird creative dynamic that drips down from the senior designer. I would go for some in house roles at some small-mid sized corporate shithole.
Bonus is you have energy to do creative shit outside of work which is what I enjoyed doing before realizing graphic design is gay.

>> No.55510294

>>55510247
>realizing graphic design is gay.
same. trying to switch professions. want to make something with my hands like leatherworking, especially since AI shit is going

>> No.55510346

>>55510294
I learnt to code kek, never used it. I'm just sticking it out til I make it off crypto desu

>> No.55510417

>>55509745
If you have some kind of creative job like this you should do side gigs where you agree to make the logo or paint the office of a startup for a small equity piece. Only chance you’ll make it.

>>55509751
Same thing as above but doing some work on their product.

>>55510076
Same thing but you help them cook their books for investors.

If you’re trying to make it on salary alone you need to be a doctor or lawyer or some other type of professional where you can google “average salary” and see a number above 450k.

>> No.55510437

>>55510055
based i like ur style

>> No.55510568

>>55509745
>>55509751
>>55509777
>>55509797
>>55509826
>>55510076
>>55510085
>be me
>work in cyber security
>200k total comp
>working 1 hour a day
I made it, didn’t I?

>> No.55510585
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>>55509745
Damn, anon. I make double that as a trash guy. You don’t break your back at least.

>> No.55510596

>>55510585
What's the most fucked up thing you've seen people throw out

>> No.55510659

>>55510585
Dis nigga washing down American spirits with a vanilla caramel iced latte

>> No.55510935

at least your getting paid for a skill you can continue to build on that's really cool unlike me a 24/yrold fag that works at a gourmet popcorn shop

>> No.55510990

>>55510417
>paint office for startup
Okay
>for equity
Lmao delusional

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>backend
>$130,000/yr
feel free to post your yuropoor healthcare cope below, mine is 100% covered by my employer and I don't have to wait 6 months for an x-ray

>> No.55511199

>>55511120
how long have you had your job for?

>> No.55511213

>>55510568
Pretty much, and it's something everyone needs. Do you have to know how to program to be a cybersecurity guy? I can't code for shit and I've gotten mixed results about if actual programming knowledge is required.

>> No.55511223
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55511223

> IT Technician
>$19.50 an hour
I’m in fucking hell. At least they’re paying for my cybersecurity degree, I can’t even live like this imagine plugging in keyboards and running cable for 1.5 years

>> No.55511447

>>55511223
Maybe instead of spending 4 years getting a “cybersecurity” degree you pick up routing/switching or a Microsoft certs because you’re going to need that intermediate experience to get into “cybersecurity” meme anyways. It’s weird to me how many people are trying to become security experts but don’t even understand the basics of tcp/ip

>> No.55511469

>>55511120
Whats your rent/mortage mutt

>> No.55511476

>>55511469
Probably cheaper than yours lol

>> No.55511499
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55511499

>Dishwasher
>$12.35 an hour

>> No.55511507

>>55511499
>year 1: $12
>year 2: $12:15
>year 3: $12.35

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>warehouse manager
>$150,000/yr, after taxes

>> No.55511676

>>55509745
42000 as a Tier2 Level1 helpdesk agent

>> No.55511692

>>55509745
I gamble online for a living and make than that. kek

>> No.55511717

Engineer

>160 a year, plus perdiem, plus travel, plus pto.

How long until they find out im grossly incompetent

>> No.55512062

>>55511213
You don't, Cybersecurity jobs exist were people literally just tell people to change their password, it's even less technical than IT.

>> No.55512075

>>55510568
Fuck you nigger

>> No.55512762

>>55509745
>Junior Python developer
>180,000 ILS

>> No.55512858
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>>55511447
Won’t take 4 years + I get lots of giac/sans certs as part of the degree program
Also been grinding htb/tryhackme/etc pretty hard

>> No.55513287

>>55509854
a lot of the overzealous boomer types now use "Canva" so it's basically like using templates and for many of them it's good enough.

>>55510042
>I would honestly switch to a new industry.
pretty much, would have to go back to school

>>55510085
>Graphic design is a field with a very wide potential income range.
it depends alot on where you live, I've seen jobs for what is basically a graphic designer, paying $80k to $120k but in expensive cities.

>>55510136
I just have a nice portfolio on a suarespace website and a well done resume, applied for every job I see pretty much and added in a customized ChatGPT cover letter and I got responses. Usually I'll get interviews but get ghosted, I did freelance for 10 years so I know how it is.

>> No.55513300

>>55510585
If I could get a job working in sanitation for a city with a fat pension I'd take it in an instant.

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>>55512858
>Also been grinding htb/tryhackme/etc pretty hard
Anon any tips?
I started recently with tryhackme, first year cybersec degree
Btw is it only me or the amount of active users on those platforms is extremely low (barely 20k people on old easy boxes on thm)?

>> No.55514870

>>55509745
software engineer with 3 years experience that makes $60k in the US

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55514953

430 euro p/m
NEET

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55514962

I designed this graphic.

>> No.55514976

International consultant, specialized in public relations, for fortune 500’s.
>117k

>> No.55515068

construction sales
70k
company truck and gas card

>> No.55515073

>>55514976
so you make powerpoints for companies in which you tell people to a:reduce costs, b:increase profits?

>> No.55515097

>>55510990
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/07/how-facebook-graffiti-artist-david-choe-earned-200-million.html

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>>55514870
I make like 60k as a plumber's helper of 3.5 years experience, you still recommend an it/ CS job ?

>> No.55515183

>>55509892
>post memes here for years
>get reposted all the time on here and on twitter
>people don't even realize people are actually making these images

>> No.55515229

>>55509751
good morning sir

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>>55509745
That's not bad in some parts of the world. You can literally do it anywhere with a computer and internet connection too.

Anyways, look up a project called Blackswan. Its a revolutionary ChatGPT powered trading tool to analyze news in real time and instantaneously execute trades to profit from all eventualities.

>> No.55515266

>>55509745
data analyst (in financial services)
3 yoe
120k tc

>> No.55515272

>>55509751
Why are europoors like this?

>> No.55515285

>>55510568
Location and industry nigger. I make ~150k tc and get worked like a dog in fintech

>> No.55515290

>>55515272
Commies and americans robbed Europe empty

>> No.55515550

>>55514870
bro not to gaslight you or anything but i make more than that in the fucking UK of all places, with the same job and same exp.

>> No.55515783

>>55511223
Configuration technician.

>$38,400.00
>Image laptops all day
>Have certs and cannot get better job
>Going to uni
>been at this about 1.5 years too

Doing a little bit of supervisory stuff which is nice but it is pretty life denying.

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55515799

>Fiber Network Planer
>36000€

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>>55509745
>frontend developer
>42k

>> No.55515873

>highschool dropout
>commercial pest control technician 3yrs exp.
Went from 45k-48k-53k a year

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>>55515260
Blackswan is something special. I am looking forward to the next bullrun with it. Hell even phase 4 pump will be something else.

>> No.55515958

>>55509831
>seriously? I thought devs made a lot of money, are you a front end web developer or something?
Some do. I'm at $250,000/year
Think about all the software you know. Some of it is shit and makes little to no money. Some of it is a daily utility that always works and is ubiquitous life infrastructure for almost everyone.

Depending on which type of project you are on, it will pay massively different. It isn't surgery where we are helping a handufl of people per day each day, with a massively valuable event for each customer.

Software pays well if you have a shit ton of users paying a bit each. Europe produces very little software with massive userbases.

>> No.55515961

>>55515285
>fintech
what did you expect? that's the worst type of company to work cyber. no processes, tight deadlines and constantly getting pushed around by the product teams. if you want a cozy cyber job then go work in the government, bank or a boomer company like Microsoft.