Room Temperature Superconductor Investments

[Anonymous No.55665835]

It seems that Koreans have made the biggest scientific discovery of the past 100 years:
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.12008

Comments at HN:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36864624


What should we invest in?

[Anonymous No.55665850]

>>55665835
copper

[Anonymous No.55665853]

>>55665835
copper
but its too late

[Anonymous No.55665875]

>>55665835
Explain this like I have a room temperature IQ

[Anonymous No.55665897]

>>55665875
robot cat waifus with quantum computer brains

[Anonymous No.55665916]

>>55665875
electricity mo betta

[Anonymous No.55665919]

>This means you can't actually push big current through this thing (yet). You can't make a powerful magnet, and you can't make viable power lines, both applications that were the hallmark of "room temperature superconductor revolution".

another fake scientific 'breakthrough' that will never amount to anything

[Anonymous No.55665931]

>>55665916
So this will make electricity transmission more efficient, meaning less and smaller cables? How the hell would that make copper a good investment then? That means less copper being used to produce less cables. Am I missing something?

[Anonymous No.55665945]

>>55665919

Big spike in GE stock... billionaires know

[Anonymous No.55665957]

maybe potash, bismuth, strontium
maybe lead will come roaring back into consumer electronics
but probably not

[Anonymous No.55665970]

>>55665931
Copper is used to produce the superconductor.

https://sciencecast.org/casts/suc384jly50n

[Anonymous No.55665986]

copper futures aren't showing anything

[Anonymous No.55665997]

>>55665970
Interesting, I still don't really understand this fully. I'm just a smooth brained programmer. I'll have to read more into this.
>>55665986
These kind of things usually take a long time to be priced in. Assuming this is a real breakthrough, it will take several years or even a decade to make it's way through the research, industrial application, productization, and production pipelines. And there's a lot of uncertainty in the meantime that could hamper a long term investment like this.

[Anonymous No.55666025]

>>55665997
>it will take several years or even a decade to make it's way through the research
this is such a revolutionary discovery that it will be extremely well funded area of research. even the current discovery could already used in some places and it's also a very simple to reproduce apparently. I don't think the adoption of this tech, if real, will take that long.

[Anonymous No.55666047]

>>55666025
Even so, it takes time to bring something like this to market. If highly expedited maybe we could see it in 3-5 years imo. Not saying I disagree, it's just that the global markets are always inherently inefficient and take time to do there things.

[Anonymous No.55666067]

>>55666047
well, it's not like Tesla is valued at what it's right now either. I think we can see moves in some sector fairly early if it hits the news media cycle, but we'll see. I'm definitely following this with extra interest

[Anonymous No.55666079]

>>55665897
That is a man

[Anonymous No.55666762]

>>55665853
ffs why am I always late?

[Anonymous No.55666839]

>>55665931
>So this will make electricity transmission more efficient, meaning less and smaller cables? How the hell would that make copper a good investment then? That means less copper being used to produce less cables. Am I missing something?
No, the recycling of old copper wires and equipment will be used in less quantities to make new superconductive shit, just see >>55665916
but it would take time

[Anonymous No.55666954]

>>55666025
substitution of single atoms is extremely complicated and expensive, also to scale this up to industrial levels I guarantee it will take many more years and machinery inventions
what's more, for powerlines and grids it also matters how affected this new kind of copper is to the elements, degredation through use over time, etc
t. nanoscientist

[Anonymous No.55666962]

>>55666954
You can read their methodology in the paper it amounts to little more than mixing powders in the correct ratio and heating while under vacuum.
sure i can see some engineering required to produce at scale but it does appear to be some crazy complex process.

[Anonymous No.55666970]

>>55666962
this, is aparently really easy to manufacture, not as much as a copper wire, but nothing that cannot be scaled industrially with current methods

[Anonymous No.55666984]

one thing this might be able to do however is be used in circuit boards and bring the cost of electricity for pow way down

you might get like superconducting Asics

even then tho, I'm not sure how well it substitutes in Opamp and memory components. Will take at least a decade for something like that and the cut in the end may be simply 50% max or so

[Anonymous No.55666994]

>>55666962
so how are you going to manufacture long lines without breaking vacuum? Any interruption in the powerline that needs to be welded together or something is going to cost you energy by disrupting the crystal purity

[Anonymous No.55667007]

>>55666994
Build it in space.

[Anonymous No.55667012]

>>55667007
lmao, no I'm sure any facility developed on earth would still be way less expensive than that

[Anonymous No.55667024]

>>55666994
really big vacuum chambers
but seriously i don't deny engineering problems exist but the production of the material itself does not appear to be complex
even if you are limited to small scale applications and can't use it for power lines I am sure you could use it in something like an MRI.

[Anonymous No.55667357]

>>55667012
use starship

[Anonymous No.55668015]

>>55667357
That's still really expensive, especially if you want to return it to Earth. Of course, with room temperature superconductors it would be much easier to build a Lofstrom loop, which isn't that hard anyway, but space isn't vacuum, and vacuum is not that hard to produce on Earth even in large volumes.

[Anonymous No.55668066]

wait so this means i can now make bitcoin miners that don't produce a lot of waste heat by replacing most of my wires with room temperature superconducting wires? sold.

jokes aside, i am watching the developments for this with extreme interest. IF this is real and other laboratories confirm their findings, superconductor research will get HUGE funding and the race to mass produce room temperature superconductors will begin.
i've skimmed through the methodology of the paper, and with my engineering degree i can say that the process is piss simple. so far the bottlenecks i see are the vacuum furnace parts which will prove a problem in trying to scale up.
still, just like how ignition was achieved at NIF, having an actual room temperature superconductor that actually exists will alleviate concerns if room temp superconductors are achievable.
anyways, next step is optimization and scale-up if this shit is confirmed for real.
TL;DR: invest in research, electrical and electronics, fusion, transportation, and military industries to name a few.

[Anonymous No.55668121]

>>55665897
that's a cat

[Anonymous No.55669201]

>>55665919
Why do you need this garbage if you can just increase the voltage and make anything conductive.

[Anonymous No.55669222]

>>55666994
In space.

[Anonymous No.55670324]

bump

[Anonymous No.55671530]

I've enjoyed learning about this topic which I would otherwise never have heard of, thank you. I am now researching biotech companies, particularly any company trying to build non-invasive body scanning and diagnostic technology but i havent found one yet.

[Anonymous No.55671580]

>>55665970
Oh great more lead spread around.

[Anonymous No.55671642]

>>55665919
>>55665970
What happens if it isn't replicated within a week elsewhere? There was a similar thing that happened not too long ago from worst Korea. I'm not sure if I can trust this brehs

[Anonymous No.55671669]

>>55669222
lmao it would still be cheaper to just build a long vacuum chamber on earth

[Anonymous No.55671741]

>>55671530
Interesting anon, good luck.

[Anonymous No.55672291]

>>55665853
This isn't because of that.

[Anonymous No.55672375]

>>55666994
>Any interruption in the powerline that needs to be welded together or something is going to cost you energy by disrupting the crystal purity
I mean they figured out how to do it with fiber optic lines.

[Anonymous No.55672713]

>>55669222
based

[Anonymous No.55672724]

>>55668121

[Anonymous No.55672774]

>>55665875
floaty gaming chairs

[Anonymous No.55673061]

>>55666994
I read the paper earlier. IIRC a predecessor process required vacuum, but the final process bringing together predecessors is in air. I could be misremembering though.

[Anonymous No.55673078]

>>55673061
Oh and the predecessor process creates a solid that they then pulverize to mix with another pulverized chemical which makes it way easier

[Anonymous No.55673131]

I have an account with 5000 karma on hackernews. I have gotten it all through comments about Open Source software and Steam being such a based Gaben

[Anonymous No.55673180]

>>55673131
that's peanuts
there are people who got Nobel prizes for literally nothing

[Anonymous No.55673295]

>>55667024
Doesn't need to be big, just long. You could build miles-long steel pipe on a spool that could hold a vacuum. See operation Pluto.

[Anonymous No.55673305]

>>55672774
fat niggas will be like baron harkonnen soon

[Anonymous No.55675450]

ITT: non-engineers pretending
>t. senior engineer

[Anonymous No.55675461]

>>55671580
lead poisoning is a spook

[Anonymous No.55675532]

>>55665835
>Hackernews

[Anonymous No.55675952]

>>55665875
>magnetic bearings
Fidget Spinners that spin for hours on a single tap
>heat-free coils -> smaller, more effcient and more powerful electric engines
Your Tesla will get a bigger frunk and more miles and TGV tickets will get cheaper
>zero-loss, zero-heat wires
do you know how your charger heats up sometimes? It won't anymore. Also, you won't need to worry about cooling the GPU either.
>magnetic levitation
unironically hoverboards (and maglevs becoming cheaper than regular trains)
those are only from the top of my head, Room temperature superconduction is up there with "Fusion power" and "FTL drive" on the category of "Technologies that can change the whole ball game if ever found out"

[Anonymous No.55675960]

>>55675450
senior engineer is a fancy job title for a mid-level manager, you have no real knowledge or skills that would qualify as expertise outside of the extreme niche that you have been working on for the past 4+ years

[Anonymous No.55677437]

>>55665835
Bump

[Anonymous No.55678821]

>>55675960
that’s a nice cope
I don’t manage people at all
>nooo you can’t develop a competency in any particular field! you have to be a master of nothing like me!