/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.55890989]

How do I short Argentina

[Anonymous No.55891005]

Based let's all become Jewish.

[Anonymous No.55891013]

>>55890989
he's using cheatcodes , not fair

[Anonymous No.55891040]

another Zelensky in the making

[Anonymous No.55891115]

Argentina is on the ropes and rather than fix the problem he wants to use their political weakness to cash the last few drops of value out and siphon them into the dollar. The American empire really is ruthless to anyone who isn't paranoid about security and intelligence

[Anonymous No.55891222]

>>55891115
Nah, he is based. Argentina had enough socialist politicians

[Anonymous No.55891233]

>>55891222
So what do you call someone who wants to get rid of his own country's currency and switch to another's which is controlled by a central bank? Other than retarded?

[Anonymous No.55891242]

>>55891233
Won't someone please think of the argentine central bank!

[Anonymous No.55891259]

>>55891233
Their currency is perpetually depreciating against the dollar. Using dollars will make it much easier for their people to build wealth and grow a productive industry.

[Anonymous No.55891261]

>>55891233
I don't see the problem. Dollarization ties the hands of the government, so they can't just inflate the local currency and stuff their pockets.

Certainly better that having to illegally exchange your pesos for dollar on a black market just so that your money doesn't devalue 100% per year.

[Anonymous No.55891279]

>>55891233
>MUHHHH LOCAL CURRENCY
>(down another 90%)

[Anonymous No.55891463]

im gonna buy some old argentia currency as a collectors item and lesson that wealth distribution and leftiodism destroys nations

[Anonymous No.55891464]

Of course he does.

[Anonymous No.55891475]

>>55891005
I mean technically: wouldn't that sort of solve the whole issue?

[Anonymous No.55891493]

Argentina is at least 80%.
the whitest country in the Americas definitely deserves no more socialism

[Anonymous No.55891788]

>>55891475
I know, right. Subvert the subverters.

[Anonymous No.55891797]

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[Anonymous No.55891865]

>>55891493
N

[Anonymous No.55891923]

>>55891233
Based.

[Anonymous No.55891943]

>>55890989
>guy points out that socialism is bad and destroyed the country
>far right

[Anonymous No.55891957]

>>55891233
The entire world should use the USD.

[Anonymous No.55891994]

>>55891005
>>55891788
Not a bad idea

[Anonymous No.55891997]

>>55891994
Fool, that's what the Jews want, a one-world religion.

[Anonymous No.55892071]

>>55890989
It’s all so tiresome. How is it that goyim keep falling for the most obvious controlled opposition….

[Anonymous No.55892079]

>>55890989
When are we going to get some fucking good news for once?

[Anonymous No.55892180]

>>55891788
>>55891994
Though it would also make everyone into a "subverter", and I don't think we're all going to walk around, all calling ourselves "the subverters".

[Anonymous No.55892187]

>>55891957
It already is, that's why it's imploding (the USD, I mean).

[Anonymous No.55892197]

>>55891997
Judaism historically didn't seek converts, that's why it's a minority religion, unlike Christianity, which is a major world religion.

[Anonymous No.55892223]

>>55892197
It wouldn't make sense of Jews to convert other people regardless.
>OK so what's your religion about
We're God's chosen people and have to follow His laws that He designed specifically only for us or else he gets mad
>Uh, ok, what's in it for me then
You'll be subject to those laws if you convert and that's about it, we don't even really have a description of an afterlife so it's not like you get to go to heaven or anything if you convert, we don't even know what happens after we die

[Anonymous No.55892258]

>>55890989
i think you should long, and hard

[Anonymous No.55892302]

>>55891233
LMAO

[Anonymous No.55892408]

>>55892223
>we don't even know what happens after we die
I mean, in fairness: how they fuck would they have that knowledge? That's a completely unreasonable request to make.

[Anonymous No.55892581]

>>55890989
>libertarian
>far right
Getting really sick of these media pilpul tactics

[Anonymous No.55892602]

>>55891222
"Based" just means signals the right thing. So he is selling out Argentina to prop up USD but can act "based"
>Captcha: 8SWAG

[Anonymous No.55892615]

>>55892581
Political "spectrums" in general are pretty gay and retarded

[Anonymous No.55892651]

>>55891259
It is depreciating because of odious debt it mathematically can't repay that it took out in the 80s. Dollarization will just lead to shrinkage and collapse

[Anonymous No.55892665]

>>55892180
If we're all J, there are no goyim to subvert. Without a host a parasite cannot live. It would be the end. Good.

[Anonymous No.55892672]

>>55892665
Lol it's true. When natsuccs complain about how evil Jews are they are just jealous/projecting their own plans

[Anonymous No.55892685]

>>55891222
You motherfuckers falling for psyop after psyop. That or youre a mother fucking glowni. RESEARCH THE JESUIT OATHS AND ROTHSCHILDS YOU SMOOTH BRAIN SACKS OF SHIT THE JEWS ARE A SMALL PEDOCULT DISTRACTION FROM THE MAIN ENEMY WAKE THE FUCK UP.

[Anonymous No.55892702]

>>55892665
Thought it would also logically mean everyone would be Jewish. In this hypothetical example, I mean; while I can see the merit in Judaism, I'm not sure they'd want the entire world to join. But still, "in spirit", you know.

[Anonymous No.55892726]

>>55892685
You will understand that nobody will "wake up" if the first thing they read you write contains the words "Jesuit oaths", "pedocult", and "wake the fuck up". No matter how convinced you are of whoever this "enemy" is: if you think about, you couldn't possibly seriously expect the guy who's screaming at others to "wake the fuck up" in all-caps to be believed. Even if I were maximally sympathetic: you didn't explain about these "oats" and what they are supposed to say/do, or how any of this relates to the Rothschilds, so I don't even know what I'm supposed to "wake the fuck up" to.

[Anonymous No.55892740]

>>55892726
>"oats"
Nowhere. Not once, have I mentioned the word "oats".
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LQCU36pkH7c&pp=ygUxZXZlcnlvbmUgaXMgbm93IGR1bWJlciBmb3IgaGF2aW5nIGxpc3RlbmVkIHRvIGl0IA%3D%3D

[Anonymous No.55892757]

>>55892740
Indeed you didn't, but would I have made a completely sensible argument in your eyes if I hadn't mistyped the word "oaths"?

[Anonymous No.55892788]

>>55892757
Sensible? Depends on a number of factors. One it wasn't the first thing I stated. Two, upon researching very shallowly you can find ample evidence of Rothschild / Jesuit / Masonic ties and global manipulation, so therefore there would in fact be something for an unintiate to "wake up" to.

[Anonymous No.55892808]

>>55891040
There's jews (Zelensky, Israel) and then there are those who kneel to jews (Putin).

[Anonymous No.55892860]

>>55892180
why not?

[Anonymous No.55892865]

>>55892808
Putin is controlled opposition and a part of the club. How is it you can't see this I find myself interally monologue and imagine slapping people whilst saying "No one. Not one has the right to be that stupid." Why is it the general public are willingly blind and walk into the slaughter house?

[Anonymous No.55892917]

>>55892860
Would you casually refer to yourself and everyone you knew as a "subverter"? If so, then so, but that'd be the consequence.
>>55892788
>One it wasn't the first thing I stated.
It was in the context of you having made one post in this thread. >>55892685 as a whole is "the very first thing they read you write".
>so therefore there would in fact be something for an unintiate to "wake up" to
I won't judge that, but presumably, not all of the claims made online can possibly be true, unless what you're saying is "literally everything that you can read online about the Rothschilds or the Jesuits is true". People can make up all sorts of things, why would Jesuits/Rothschilds be an exception, about which only 100% correct information circulates online? If they're as subversive and secretive as you say, I'd think that there'd be at least some unsubstantiated and false rumors as well disinformation going around.
If not everything one can read online about is true: then you'd have to say what exactly is true and what isn't, otherwise how will anybody know what you're even claiming to be true?

[Anonymous No.55892930]

>>55892865
>How is it you can't see this I find myself interally monologue and imagine slapping people whilst saying "No one. Not one has the right to be that stupid."
You were "that stupid" at one time, unless you came out of the womb with this knowledge. We do actually "slap ourselves" for our own ignorance. Treat others as a past version of yourself that didn't know what you know (I won't rule on its validity of any claims, as said): surely, you'd want any knowledge explained calmly and kindly to you; you wouldn't want to be screamed at or insulted about "how stupid you are for not getting this".

[Anonymous No.55893034]

>>55891259
Somalia hasn't had a stable government for 10 years, a failed state without any central bank or the likes.
Their currency literally flatlines, the Somalian dollar is the most stable currency in Africa.

It's so obvious that it is government decision to increase the monetary supply that leads to a depreciation of the purchasing power and it's associated wild swings. Yet this is somehow lost on a libertarian candidate? that calls out "shit statists"?
His solution to the magical bad money problem, find a new untainted money and hope the "statist" in a foreign country doesn't get to greedy at the printing press.

[Anonymous No.55893397]

>>55890989
It's Argentina, there's nothing left to short.

[Anonymous No.55893570]

>>55893034
Shit statist. Legal tender should be a free market itself. Even if you lived in a state that requires you to pay taxes, you should have multiple ways of giving a cut of your earnings without being forced to used a government mandated paper shitcoin of their choosing. For instance, if the tax rate is 20%, index it toward how many barrels of oil (energy, just an example) your yearly earnings was worth that year. Same for paying employees. Ik le rotschild saying if "care not who makes the laws", but it's the forcing of using someone to use a specific currency that fucks everything, not its existence itself.

[Anonymous No.55893576]

>>55893570
>Uhhhhhhh I have an idea in my brain about how society SHOULD be
Nobody cares bitch politics is about dealing with reality not daydreaming about utopic conditions

[Anonymous No.55893642]

>>55892930
I've literally known since i was like ten years old, git gud fag.

[Anonymous No.55893698]

>>55890989
>jewish libertarian
holy shit he might actually turn argentina around if he gets the right connections, based and jewing the jewpilled

[Anonymous No.55893738]

>>55893642
Would you have liked it to be called "stupid" as a 10-year-old child?

[Anonymous No.55893796]

>>55893397
A genius strategy, in a sense.
People buy their bonds because they're "an EM market with a good economy", which they are, but then they also just keep defaulting every, say, 20 years instead of every 30 to get the discount on their interest payments they think they deserve. Them wanting this "discount" is a consequence of buyers of Argentinian bonds still expecting rates that are too high, risk-adjustment or not. Argentina cannot possibly pay 17% sustainably, THUS it defaults. The creditors themselves are causing periodic defaults, so the real interest paid moves to the equilibrium point of the 'nominal interest - the part defaulted upon in a cycle + black market premium". The "black market premium" is the price of the defaulting-kerfuffle.
Creditors engage in a sub-optimal portfolio allocation strategy collectively because their goal-function
>maximize yield
Is not rational (maximally efficient, causing the black market premium to increase). The a more effective goal-function is
>min{maximize yield, minimize default-risk due to [our]my own actions}
"[our]my" means that one exerts the actions as a class, collectively ("lenders"), but one controls one's actions individually ("individual creditor"). As long as goal-function in aggregate tends more towards the former, market-pricing will be inefficient, causing instability. An incorrect goal to optimize.

As for what they should do: they should be forced to hold those fucking bonds to maturity and they themselves should determine the yield to offer: a reverse auction. They would, with the latter goal-function, be incentivized to offer the best terms. The investment is also economically rational, since one's self-interest and the counterparty's interest (Argentina's) are aligned. Even if Argentina cannot offer "market-rates", which, even given the attempt to minimize the risk of its periodic defaults, the investment would be be strategically and globally beneficial, as it's a major supplier of commodities.

[Anonymous No.55893813]

>>55891005
I won't turn my back on Christ no matter what angle you try

[Anonymous No.55893850]

>>55893813
Just become a Jewish Christian. You know, libe Yeshua.

[Anonymous No.55893981]

>>55891997
Jews just want the whole world to be monotheistic, but not necessarily Jewish, and to also abolish all idols. Jews consider the Christian concept of the Trinity to be idol worship and that Christians aren’t monotheistic. This leads to much of the contention today, and why Jews have historically been on better terms with Muslims who merely consider Jesus to be a prophet rather than God himself with no trinity involved.

[Anonymous No.55894223]

>>55890989
>wants to become a jew
he alredy fucking is, look at hid schnoose

[Anonymous No.55894658]

>>55891493
You are all scum, therefore not white. It is enough to see how you filth play soccer, cheating and theatrics every minute.

[Anonymous No.55895261]

>>55891233
this, dont come cry to me argentina