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57646903 No.57646903 [Reply] [Original]

Realistically once oil runs up will all the good money start investing into china? Seems like they are decoupling from the western systems.

>> No.57646906

>>57646903
Oil is a renewable resource. You don’t actually buy the “fossil fuel” narrative do you?

>> No.57646911

>>57646906
This. Oil is Earth's blood or bile or somesuch.

>> No.57646957

>>57646903
Solar on that scale is a real problem lol, they will find out soon enough.

>> No.57646980

>>57646957
That too. Do these people have no long term thinking skills? Just taking 5 minutes to think about and the problems should be evident

>> No.57646994
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>>57646903
Extremely bullish for silver.

>> No.57646995

>>57646906
>>57646911
Even if biogenesis is fake how do you justify calling it renewable? There's so much of it that we can't run out within a reasonable timeframe, or the earth regenerates it somehow?

>> No.57647000

>>57646906
>>57646911
you are telling me we don't burn old dinosaurs??

>> No.57647004

>>57646980
What problems? The amount of space it takes, the lack of output when it's dark, maintenance, ...?

>> No.57647006

>>57646994
Your image is retarded. That's not how money works.

>> No.57647042

>>57647004
try loosing control of your grid, overloading & stressing equipment not designed for it, having to spool your turbines down to idle, ect ect.

>> No.57647050
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>>57647006
>how money works.
In reality...

>> No.57647054
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>>57646957
>>57646980
Nah, they're doing just fine. They won't rely entirely on solar, it'll be more like a secondary source of cheap/free energy for them.

>> No.57647074

>>57647054
...thats even worse you know.
Nuclear doesn't spool down, you have to spool up load or load banks. Nuclear and solar do not fucking mix.

>> No.57647161

>>57646906
>Oil is a renewable resource.
Ancient Greek level thinking. Might as well say, that iron is renewable, since it is what all matter will eventually fuse into

>> No.57647163

>>57646903
chinas pollution a few years back was so bad they had to do something. they refused coal even though trump said they had a big coal partnership, even during the smog crisis in china.

>> No.57647213

>>57646903
>Will all the good money start investing into China?
Already did and already stopped, how do you think they financed the solar and nuclear in the first place? Its all dried up now thoughever, most of the Western world has soft sanctions in place that are driving corporations to invest in places like India and Mexico instead now that we (properly) recognize China as the only other geopolitical threat to the West after Russia finishes circling the drain.

Mostly, China is just trying to continue pumping the hype for their economy by way of construction. Its already been revealed to the wider investment audience that a third of their economy is just them lying about the numbers and another third is stolen technology. What might have been a multi-polar argument 20 years ago in the aughts is now solidly in the US camp as the only polar power on the planet, and it will remain so.

>> No.57647308

>>57646903
Didn't the US recently do a successful fusion thing a few months ago?

>> No.57647399

Nah nigga. This is bullshit, there are shit ton of news that China is building green energy bs but they are still operating and investing into coal and nothing about a switch to the myriad of panels, windmills and nuclear power.
It could just be western news hyping their future plans or pure bullshit

>> No.57647437

People always talk about oil running out or being outdated but then you see shit like Norway and Saudi Arabia relying heavily on it then shit like Venezuela threatening to invade Guyana for oil reserves.

>> No.57647448

>>57647437
It's still the best portable source of energy, nothing can compete with it

>> No.57647454

>>57647437
It’s just a tactic to grift with green energy

>> No.57647556

>>57647213
This poster is delusional.

>> No.57647598

>>57647213
This poster is right.

>> No.57647703

>>57647074
True, nuclear doesnt just “cycle down” during off peak usage. It slowly ramps to provide stable usage.
This is where btc mining comes into play. It can use off peak power to meet demand to keep energy loading requirements consistent across the 24hr time scale.
Meaning, using excess power and keeping a nuke reactor steady, by mining btc, is incredibly smart, and our govt is retarded for not doing it.

>> No.57647865

>>57647703
>mw/gw scale mining
lol
lmao! This is your brain on shitcoins.

>> No.57648247

>>57646906
How do you explain oil wells running dry?

>> No.57648306

>>57647865
Btc mining uses 300 GW daily.
Faggot.

>> No.57648373

>>57648306
>doesnt understand gwh vs gw
lol dilate harder retard, you know fuck all about utility scale production and clearly have the mind of a child.

>> No.57648394

>>57648247
how do you explain them filling back up?

>> No.57648406

>>57647000
Correct. Abiotic hydrocarbons form fucking lakes on Saturn's moon Titan.

>> No.57648431

>>57648247

They don't "run dry". We don't have the technology to pump enough water deep underground to create enough pressure to push up more oil.

>> No.57648504

>>57647213
This poster is half right and half delusional.

>> No.57648573

>>57646980
>le 5 minutes to problem solved

This is how retards think... at least its an honest statement.

>> No.57649426

>>57647074
They will complement nuclear and solar with hydroelectric that has the advantage of conserving very well the energy that is not used and even accumulate the energy that is extra produced

>> No.57649440
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>>57646903
>once oil runs up

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>>57646903
>China added
No they didnt. They fake the numbers and make literal fake solar panel fields so they can look good to other countries. Its all about face

>> No.57649847

>>57649440
>>>/pol/

>> No.57649954

>>57649471
>China planted more trees than anyone!
Reality: They planted trees in the desert and have to constantly irrigate them or they instantly die.

>> No.57650046

>>57646957
I think those chinamen are better at doing the maths than you anon

>> No.57650088

>>57647054
China is building so many reactors meanwhile cucked Europe USA and Canada dismantle theirs for some (((green))) cult

>> No.57650107

>>57648247
By that logic paper isn't renewable because you cut down the trees. Oil is created by microorganisms in the earth's crust, it gets replenished over time.

>> No.57650160

>>57646903
Funny decision for a country with a permanent covering of smog.

>> No.57650207

>>57647213
This is western cope. The Chinese economy is growing faster than the US and it's actually built on production. While the West deindustrialized and bought in the globalisation trap, China took all the manufacturing jobs and is eating the EU's lunch. Neoliberalism is killing the western economies and the only thing they have left are propped up stock markets and silicone valley vaporware.

>> No.57650277

>>57648431
>they don't run dry they just run out of oil at the depth you're drilling

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>>57648394
>>57648431
>>57650107
>1pbtid bad argument retards

>> No.57650345

>>57648247
Oil replenish in ~70 years in the USA, braindead vaxxed filth.
Middle-east oil bassin is probably inexhaustible, lucky bastards.

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>> No.57650415

>>57650345
maybe stay in the middle east with your shitty esl