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Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

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PREVIOUS THREAD: >>57622331

>> No.57666749
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START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

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*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

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Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/services

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Monero-only bullion shop
https://monerometals.com/

>Win XMR!
https://monero.win/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Alias Market #
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Calypso #
>Candy Haven #
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Cypher Market
>Dark Matter
>DrugHub #
>Drugula #
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Gramazon #
>Hectate Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Smackers
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
>SuperMarket #
>Tribe Seuss
>Wizard's Palace #
>World Trade Center #
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/yjn3DPmn


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/75mVpfED


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

>> No.57666785
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>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

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>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

>> No.57666877
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First for Monero-chan.

>> No.57667588

>>57666796
how much is the monero miners break even price?

>> No.57667596
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Is there any physical crypto card that can be fed with Monero? Virtual cards are cool but I can't buy eggs with them.

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so did we survive binance delisting?

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>>57667588
>how much is the monero miners break even price?

Depends on power cost. Mining Monero hasn't been profitable for a while now, many XMR miners these days mine at an acceptable loss for purely ideological reasons, basically making a monthly donation to their favorite charity.

>> No.57667923

>>57667804
i guess monero is just different then

>> No.57667953

>>57667588
>>57667804
If you have a few capable systems with a decent Ryzen processor you can basically solve the house heating question by firing up miners on those systems and place them on several different spots around the house. You get free Monero for the same electricity that you pay for heaters.

>> No.57667955

>>57667804
It isn't a charity, you profit in XMR, not fiat. It is buying XMR with your electricity bill without anyone knowing.

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Reporting in
##################################
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

>> No.57668323

>>57667788
Wait why Monero is delisted from Binance?
How to withdraw XMR from Binance now?
Damn, I wasn't reading crypto news only for 2 months

>> No.57668337

>>57667788
Evidently. Hopefully we'll see more delistings in the near future.
Fuck cexs

>> No.57668364

>>57668323
In a usual way. You'll be able to withdraw until May.

>> No.57668383

>>57667804
Its not charity you gaywad. There's enough bot farms with a mining cost of zero. Even I used to mine on free Azure servers.

>> No.57668399

>>57668323
>How to withdraw XMR from Binance now?
Kek, thanks for playing
>>57667588
They are mostly botnets. If you want to contribute you can create your own botnet. Forget about the mining rig in your home, think big.

>> No.57668422

>>57668364
Yeah, I noticed the recovery time for withdrawals is tomorrow DAAAMN

>> No.57668462
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It's over guys. XMR will never go above $300 again. Zog won

>> No.57668503

>>57668462
Wrong. Please consider trt.

>> No.57668732

>>57668503
What's trt?

>> No.57668740

>>57668732
taint replacement theory

>> No.57668823

>>57668337
This. Every cex should delist it at once. Fuck this slow hanging

>> No.57668838

>>57668740
I'm sorry, I don't quite follow. What has this to do with Monero

>> No.57668847

>>57668732
Testosterone Replacement Therapy. The good news is you can use Monero to buy testosterone! You clearly need it.

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>>57668847
It's usually called hrt.
You are stuck at the first stage of grief.

>> No.57669100

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57669338
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I am once again asking for your vote on this suggestion: https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/accept_monero_xmr

Thank you.

>> No.57669463

>>57669100
1 xmr = 1 satoshi

>> No.57669906

XMRbros I love you so much. While everyone else is making another shitfart mooncoin and BTC maxis are wasting their time on ancient tech and easily traceable secondary layers, we are worlds apart in terms of tech. It feels so good it's euphoric.

>> No.57669988

https://monerodocs.org/ is down. Is that normal?

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Feels good being free from Binance shackles.

>> No.57670127

Why is it going up I was supposed to buy at $90...

>> No.57670209

>>57669906
BASED

>> No.57670312
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>57667955
moonbois don’t understand this concept. btc has been unprofitable many times - momo traders don’t even know there’s a superior long game.

>> No.57670333

>>57667788
had you any doubt
>>57669906
buy memecoin to take profits in memecoin to buy freedom in xmr

>> No.57670789

Can someone explain bisq to me how to do I get crypto into their first and sending people cash by mail?

>> No.57670810

>>57670789
Just use LocalMonero and wait for Haveno. Last time I tried Bisq it was the laggiest most convoluted piece of shit software I've used in a while, and that's extremely telling.

>> No.57671072

>>57670810
>wait for Haveno
When is it going to get ready

>> No.57671079

>>57671072
2 more weeks

>> No.57671212
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Monero is healing.

>> No.57671385

>>57670810
I thought the latest cope was serai since haveno turned out to be vaporware.
>Haveno, more like have no product.

>> No.57671443

This is exciting, just 45% left to break even

>> No.57672546
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There needs to be some sort of quality control amongst the anti-moonfaggots. I've seen people arguing in different threads that price action doesn't matter at all as you should be purchasing Monero and immediately buying things. How is this conducive to a circular economy? Merchants shouldn't need to exit at all. They should be able to hold their Monero. In a healthy monetary system it would be entirely your prerogative what you do with your money and you should never have to face the threat of HAVING to spend it immediately. Obviously price volatility is inevitable right now but just because it is the norm doesn't mean that you have to formulate gaslighty arguments for it. And Monero has to go up in value to combat inflation. But I don't care about the price beyond that.
Btw I hold my entire networth in Monero and I buy and sell in Monero as well.

>> No.57672667

>>57672546
They still haven't answered what you're supposed to save in, if not Monero.

>> No.57672783

>>57672546
>>57672667
it's just redditors trying too hard

>> No.57672852

What's the comfiest way to type in the terminal and get current conversion rates/prices?

>> No.57672884

>>57672783
You wish. It actually is the jews railing against "Anonymity Enhancing Cryptocurrencies" to try to stop their adoption, which would be the only counterplay against CBDC and the mark of the beast. Some britbong jew sycophant a couple of months ago was posting slides from some BIS deck showing how bad goy XMR is, but because he wanted his dick sucked just for stating the obvious I chased him away. If you think I'm fucking with you just look up BIS AECs and I pray the scales fall from your eyes, friend, for the time is near.

>> No.57672923

>>57672783
>>57672884
https://www.bis.org/fsi/publ/insights31.pdf
Read it and get mad.

>> No.57672937
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Realistically are there as many monero users post 2021 as there were btc users 2011-2013? In terms of exchange usage is it about the same today with all these crackdens like tradeogre and kucoin monero volume as btc had with mt gox? Same as darknet usage pre x arr pee btc as xmr darknet usage? Shit meme websites like moneromarket arguably is more "clearnet" volume then btc with 10k btc pizza guy.

>> No.57673121

>>57669906
>easily traceable secondary layers
dude... you have no idea what's coming.

>> No.57673264
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why is xmr not dumping?
I was told I would be able to buy this coin today very cheap, like sub 20usd maybe as low as 10 bucks
I demand an explanation

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>>57672546
No cap. The ironic part is that anti-moonfags are just former moonfags who got rekt by the price and are doing the whole sour grapes thing. Monero's not going anywhere and the delisting/less liquidity is a double edged sword. At some point, people are inevitably going to want Monero because it is just too good to ignore and less global liquidity is exactly how you get massive price swings that you can sell into.

I've never been so bullish on XMR as I am now. If you are not too, then maybe you should have done a better job of slurping. Maybe then, your average price would be less than $300 per coin.

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>>57673374
>I've never been so bullish
>>57672546
>And Monero has to go up in value
>>57670333
>profits
>>57670127
>I was supposed to
>>57668462
>XMR will never go above $300 again
>>57667955
>profit
>>57667588
>price

>> No.57673523

>>57673507
Price matters.

>> No.57673580
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>>57673523
>Price matters.

And fixating on it won't magically make it go up. So quit moonfagging and focus instead on growing the Monero economy and thus consumer demand for XMR, its the only way to achieve *sustainable* NGU.

>> No.57673606

>>57673580
What the fuck does NGU even stand for?

>> No.57673612

>>57673606
Never give up :)

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>>57673606

>> No.57673846
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>>57672546
>Btw I hold my entire networth in Monero

>> No.57673951

>>57673612
>>57673662
I legit thought it was "no good usecase" until for the first time ever I witnessed it prefaced by a positive adjective. Here I thought my hate for moonfags and maxipads enough.

>> No.57673976

>>57673951
Numbers good usecase !

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>>57673951

Laser-eyed moonfags use NGU positively while cypherpunk extremists tend to use it mockingly, its an old /biz/ meme at this point.

>> No.57674015

>>57672546
MOONFAGGOT
GIANT MOONFAGGOT

>> No.57674033

>>57674013
NGU is a positive thing. The US dollar is constantly going down in value. Number should go up for anything retaining its value just because of inflation.

>> No.57674080

How do I properly compartmentalize my mining shit? I have read that a separate mining user is advised, would a VM also work?
Any place to find the relevant spoons for a newfag?

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>>57674033
>NGU is a positive thing.

Organic NGU achieved by providing value and expanding economic activity is a positive thing. Sustainable and ever-growing.

Speculative NGU achieved by price manipulation and mindless FOMO, not so much. Mathematically unsustainable and doomed to failure.

>> No.57674177

>>57670789
>>57670810

How do I get fiat into xmr? All this shit says send money by mail, seems like a recipe to lose my cash.

>> No.57674454

>>57674177
it's too late for you man

>> No.57674656

>>57674177

Buy BTC anywhere and exchange it for XMR on tradeogre.com

>> No.57675293

So, I guess we officially survived the Binance delisting? I'm annoyed I didn't buy at $100, but $120 is fine, I guess.

>>57674177
You can buy a low-transaction fee coin like LTC with fiat and trade LTC for XMR on one of the kycnot.me exchanges.

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>>57669338
>https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/accept_monero_xmr
picrel is one of the most retarded reasons I've ever heard someone being against Monero. That ᚠᛁᚨᛏᚠᚨᚷ doesn't understand what PoW is solving, he is apparently an LTV believer, he accuses the least speculative crypto for speculation, he thinks the dev fund theft is an issue with the currency itself, and all the "problems" he mentions will not be affecting GOG if they start accepting it.

>> No.57675600
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>>57675496
bet you he's stacking btc
NPCs don't understand the true premise of POW, their brain stops working after ETH went POS

>> No.57676119

>>57675600
>ETH went POS
It did? Holy crap it did in 2022. Well, Vitalik keept saying ETH isn't a currency so whatever. I still think they shot themselves on the foot though. POS is really a nothing-tech.

>> No.57676299

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57676647

>>57673374
>The ironic part is that anti-moonfags are just former moonfags who got rekt by the price and are doing the whole sour grapes thing
No we aren't.

>> No.57676673

EYES ON THE PRIZE

> SERAPHIS
> JAMTIS
> FULL MEMBERSHIP PROOFS

MONERO IS THE FINAL SOLUTION TO THE TAXMAN QUESTION.

>> No.57676815

>>57676647
>its not about money its about sending a message to the hedgies

While XMR is great tech, bleeding down to $10 would be unacceptable. Who cares if you can transact annonymously if your annonymous wealth gets cut by 99%. Wanting the price to go up and wanting real life adoption are not diametrically opposed to eachother.

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>>57676815
>Wanting the price to go up and wanting real life adoption are not diametrically opposed to eachother.

Yes, we've already established this. You can be pro-NGU without being an impatient moonfag, I doubt anybody here would mind XMR eventually hitting 4,5 figures as the economy expands and consumer demand grows over time.

>> No.57677173

>>57676815
>Bleeding to $10 would be unacceptable
Hyperbole followed by pajeet logic
>Who cares if you can transact annonymously if your annonymous wealth gets cut by 99%.
More hyperbole and shades of degenerate gambling.
>Wanting the price to go up and wanting real life adoption are not diametrically opposed to eachother.
Of course you retard. The difference is price discussion should always be second fiddle to idealism and usage. And people like you are often only looking at the number going up.
The post I was responding too is implying that I don't want the price to increase at all and that I must have massive losses. It's lashing out instead of looking at crypto as a utility. And it's cringe and inaccurate. I do not invest my entire paycheck into cryptocurrency and most people don't do that with Monero. If you want to do that, that's absolutely fine. But I look at Monero as a utility and if it goes up in price that's great and if it doesn't that's great, because digital cash will always be something that I need.
We just saw Monero delisted from the largest crypto exchange and its still being used at the same level as it was before if we look at daily transactions. That's a huge win and shows the idealism we have is working.

>> No.57677857

>>57676815
>bleeding down to $10
God I wish. I'm already up 50% for the month. I don't think a 90% loss of funds in transit is that crazy for traditional money laundering either.

>> No.57677974
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>>57676119
>It did? Holy crap it did in 2022. Well, Vitalik keept saying ETH isn't a currency so whatever. I still think they shot themselves on the foot though. POS is really a nothing-tech.

Zcash is slated to go POS.

>> No.57678117

>>57677173
If Monero only went up, would you invest your entire paycheck then? You think maybe there are people out there that would like to exclusively use Monero if it could at least keep up with dollar inflation? Price stagnation hinders adoption.

>> No.57678192
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>>57678117
>Price stagnation hinders adoption.

lol BTC is over $50K yepn8ntt actual use of it keeps diminishing.

>> No.57678205

I have some XMR left on Binance for some fucking reason. Should I keep waiting for a withdrawal to my wallet, or just wait until they inevitably redeem it for USDT and cash that out with less of a headache?

>> No.57678276

>>57678117
>If it only went up
Lol. Moon boys are retarded.

>> No.57678778

>>57674157
I suppose that's why Monero tanked so hard. Since it's propped up by speculators.

>> No.57678881

>>57674080
You can run the miner as root it doesn't matter. A VM will likely reduce performance. What are you paranoid about?

>> No.57678928

>>57678192
>pn8nt
How did you accidentally type all these extra letters?

>>57677974
Cause it wasn't bad enough already? They've been paying themselves out of every block reward and now they won't have to since they'll be generating all the block rewards themselves.

>> No.57678952
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I solded moneroes for cash by mail.

>> No.57678982

>>57678952
Yeah that's illegal if you don't declare it to the IRS

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>>57678778
>tanked so hard.

Did it though?

>Since it's propped up by speculators.

lol 100% of speculators could disappear tomorrow and there would still be growing demand for XMR purely as a utility due to it being the only accepted form of payment in an ever-growing online shadow economy. This is why nobody with a clue was ever worried about the Binance delisting.

>> No.57679009

>>57678881
Not as much paranoid as not wanting to install all the p2pool, mining and whatever else shit when I might want to move all of it to a different machine when I upscale.
In other words, tism. Also the recommendation gave me the corresponding brain bug.

>> No.57679071

>>57679009
In that case look into containers, maybe a docker image for monero mining exists that you can use, or set up a chroot with what you need that can be moved around.

>> No.57679094

>>57679071
>chroot
I am retarded for not thinking of that, thanks

>> No.57679279

>>57674080
Use qubesOS

>> No.57679354

>>57679279
To be honest, it was more a question, anyone tried it?

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>>57679354
Haven't used it much but as far as I can tell it works as advertised which means it's a bit of a hassle but generally usable with some caveats. Not for me, but cool.

>> No.57679798

>>57673606
It's a common last name in South vietnam

>> No.57679940

>>57679354
mining in a VM is going to be a waste of time, laughably inefficient. What do you mean compartmentalize? Typically a mining rig is gonna be a whole standalone machine, but if you intend to background mine on your PC then just keep your xmrig.log files organized because you have to run it as root anyways. Mine in a pool so you don't have to store the chain if you don't want to.

Literally whatever setup you concoct is going to be just fine.

>> No.57679953

>>57679940
im retard, wrong mention
>>57674080

>> No.57679957

>>57679953
Appreciated with or without, I'll swallow the tism

>> No.57679979

>Sync data returned a new top block candidate: 3089084 -> 3942405 [Your node is 853321 blocks (3.2 years) behind]
>Sync data returned a new top block candidate: 3089123 -> 3943863 [Your node is 854740 blocks (3.3 years) behind]
>Sync data returned a new top block candidate: 3089175 -> 3089175 [Your node is 0 blocks (0 seconds) behind]
what's up with these asshats from the future? was there some fork?

>> No.57680013

>>57679979
>2030
>UN kills privacy the Internet
>to combat this, cypherpunks send their messages through time machine proxy to get unnoticed by FAGMAN eyes

>> No.57680057

>>57680013
>UN
>passing cyber legislation
>passing any legislation
Least realistic part of this

>> No.57680102

>>57680057
technically un is able to sanction countries that don't follow their goydelines

>> No.57680126

>>57680102
That would require them to be able to pass any in the first place. And then to also pass sanctions in the security council with russia and china laughing in the background.
Though by then we will have ~1000 MANFAG shell companies sitting in there or some bullshit so we're back on track..

>> No.57680240

>>57679940
>you have to run it as root anyways
If that is just to disable prefetching you don't actually need to run as root according to https://xmrig.com/docs/miner/randomx-optimization-guide/msr
Doesn't matter on a mining rig, but on a desktop this might be better.

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>>57674080
Separate hardware on a separate VLAN or physical switch. Mining on a system you're actively using isn't worth the electricity.

>> No.57680587

>>57680568
Free electricity, expensive hardware

>> No.57680892

>>57680568
I feel like it should be the opposite. I'd say it's not worth powering another mothrboard, RAM, and disk if there's one already up and running.

>> No.57683062

How will you baggies handle LN becoming the preferred privacy solution for the masses?

>> No.57683611

>>57683062
The same way I handled DuckDuckGo and Brave.

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>>57683062
>LN becoming the preferred privacy solution

lol

>> No.57684579

what if i forked monero and made it use zk

>> No.57686042

>>57684579
monero already uses zk proofs

>> No.57686113

>>57683062
>for the masses?
NordVPN is also a preferred privacy solution for them, kek.

>> No.57686772

>>57686042
>monero already uses zk proofs

And will soon be using even more with membership proofs.

>> No.57687171

>>57686768
Makes me think. What's the mitigation for a similar type of attack on Monero? Seems impossible because Monero is inherently built on the idea of rejecting their control, but it's still interesting to think how they could try to subvert it.

>> No.57687286

MoneroNodo project looks cool. The node hardware on that is a killer: https://yewtu.be/WplCWzY9Dd4?t=5870

>>57687171
Monero repels the statists that try to control it by its full encryption/obfuscation of the transaction data. Bitcoin's transparency and its blocksize war legacy has made it easy to become subverted and serve the goals of the statists/governments.

>> No.57687290

>>57687286
>https://yewtu.be/WplCWzY9Dd4?t=5870
try this link: https://youtu.be/WplCWzY9Dd4?t=5870

>> No.57687344

FixedFloat not available. Please recommend another exchange which doesn't involve KYC niggershit.

>> No.57687416

is btc<->xmr atomic swap dex still not a thing?

>> No.57687441

>>57687416
https://basicswapdex.com/

>> No.57687471

>>57687344
what's wrong with trocador?

>> No.57687495

>>57687471
>trocador
Never heard of it. Thanks.

>> No.57687563

>>57687495
i just saw, the OP is STILL recommending morphtoken of all things and not even mentioning anything remotely useful

>> No.57687568

>>57687563
Just saw this https://trocador.app/en/prepaidcards/

Have you ever tried it?

>> No.57687615

>>57687568
personally haven't, but there are other anons here that use prepaid cards, they can probably vouch for it
or else you can just try it with a small amount

>> No.57687801
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I hate my job. I wan VR and monero. simple as

>> No.57688739

>>57687441
this is awesome. is there enough liquidity?

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>>57675496
I think the most underrated aspect of Proof of Work besides its superior ability to secure the network is the fact that you can transfer energy an order of magnitude faster than before from anywhere on the globe with internet access. Remote locations with rivers and volcanoes are able to be harvested for economic energy on the opposite side of the planet in near real time. The usual suspects are the ones who spin the narrative against PoW because it threatens their control of humanity.

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>>57687171
>Makes me think. What's the mitigation for a similar type of attack on Monero? Seems impossible because Monero is inherently built on the idea of rejecting their control, but it's still interesting to think how they could try to subvert it.

Bitcoin got co-opted after it was overrun by moonfags and compliance bros. Unlike actual cypherpunks, these assholes prioritize getting their bags pumped more than establishing a functional counter-economy and enraging glowies, so when Wall Street came calling they welcomed the suits in with open arms, just look at how disgustingly excited they were about the can't-actually-spend-it ETF approval. Muh Trojan Horse.

So how do we prevent Monero from suffering the same fate? By keeping the culture extreme and uncompromising, fixated on the goal and perpetually hostile to regulators, bankers, moonfags and anybody else that seeks to water down the core ethos or subvert the mission. They all get the rope, no exceptions, the moment we yield is the moment we start losing.

>> No.57690187

PoW = Aryan
PoS = Usurious/Jewish
It's that simple.

>> No.57690321
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>>57689150
I enjoy the ability to get into mining as a normal person with a CPU. With PoS you need to have an insane amount of coins to even be able to participate without (((centralization))) like (((lending))) your coins to some other party.
>>57690187
Does PoS have a non-centralized way of initializing the blockchain? How do you stake when there are no coins?

>> No.57690326

>>57690187
It really is.
>Monero for private cash
>PoW contract chains for public proof of asset ownership (securities, NFTs, land, etc.)
Everything else is crap.

>> No.57690339

>>57690326
>PoW contract chains
DarkFi merge mining with Monero when.

>> No.57690948

>>57687568
>Have you ever tried it?
yes, the visa usa only thing
it works
as other anon said, if you have never used their prepaid cards, try with a small amount card and check how it works

>> No.57691418

>Binance blocking withdrawals for 3 days already
>"Withdrawals of these token(s) from Binance will not be supported after 2024-05-20 03:00 (UTC)."
Just let me withdraw my stack already you filthy chink.

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>> No.57691897
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coomer coin

>> No.57692111

>-18% in 1 month

What other singular digit billion cap coin has had a delisting on the largest crypto exchange and has gotten away this scot-free?

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>>57691418
>trusting someone else with your money
rest in peace lil nigga

>> No.57693380

>>57691418
lmao

>> No.57693974

>>57667976
You deliver every single therad without fail. Respect!

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57694331

>>57691418
>Just let me withdraw my stack already you filthy chink.

>> No.57694664

>>57667588
Dont know I put a bunch of miners under the houses of my rental properties so my rentoids pay for it.
They think its great I manage their internet as well even though its passed on as rent!

>> No.57695637

Remember that monero dies without bitcoin swaps.

>> No.57696109

>>57666726
monerochan is not like that
she doesn't take that stuff
jannies delete op pic
it's insulting

>> No.57696639

>>57695637
>Remember that bitcoin dies without tether.
ftfy

>> No.57697911
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57697911

Someone needs to redpill him on Monero.
https://youtu.be/YjoYEhmexmU?si=W8i4p8L0MPJAx2Wx

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57697958

>>57695637
You die without monero threads

>> No.57698452

>>57697911
>Someone needs to redpill him on Monero.
Definitely. Sam has, on multiple occasions, told his audience that whatever money he makes "goes into bitcoin."

Now, we all know that Sam got cancelled back in 2015-somethings due to his "Jews rock!" skit. Since then, he was on the "fringe" side of the mainstream media/politics. Therefore, Monero would suit his "threat model" and his audience much much better than bitcoin.

When his fisthank season 2 has started, the first thought I had was, "hey, they can do the TTS message payments, chat interactions, and premium purchases for the show in Monero!". That would be a great showcase of Monero's use as a payment method.

>> No.57698516

>>57666726
are these new ETH privacy chains going to replace monero?

>> No.57698610
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>>57698516
>ETH
>privacy
Also, even if they had the same privacy as monero, it's still worse because of ETH centralization and it being PoS.

>> No.57699088

>>57698610
im just getting nervous seeing some good tech come online. debating if i should pick up some privacy projects from ETH chain as a side bet in case it gets mass adoption before monero

>> No.57699246

>>57699088
>>57676673

>> No.57699330
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57699330

Kinda related, is there any kind of independent token/dongle/etc which performs the same/similar functions as a phone with Google wallet/Apple pay/Samsung pay? I've rooted my main phone and getting Google wallet to play nice and not bitch about it is annoying since it'll just stop working. I'd rather not buy a burner to have to carry around if possible.

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>>57698516
>are these new ETH privacy chains going to replace monero?

lol no. Unlike them shits, Monero has default privacy at the protocol layer, which puts it miles ahead in terms of reliability.

And then there's also the matter of ETH being PoS.

>> No.57699954
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57699954

Another one for the Tired of Winning Dept: XMR has now officially overtaken BTC as the currency of choice on silent.link, an anonymous eSIM seller that accepts only BTC, LN and XMR.

>December 2022
BTC: 56% | XMR: 32%

>January 2024
BTC: 34% | XMR: 51%

This comes hot on the heels of Monero also overtaking BTC as the currency of choice on CoinCards and ShopInBit (both BTC-oriented storefronts), not to mention Monero steamrolling over BTC in the darknet and ransomware sectors as well.

Starting to notice a pattern yet?

>> No.57700482

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57700611

>>57700482
move your coins you got from mining the genesis block nigger

>> No.57700980

oni anonify bot now support xmr
Its a telegram bot that allows anonymous swapping. Very promising project

>> No.57701289

>>57700482
I'm Piconero

>> No.57701363

>>57700482
I'm Saberhagen

>> No.57703230
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>> No.57704581

>>57700482
I'm CIA

>> No.57704587
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>> No.57704805

>>57700482
I'm Craig Wright

>> No.57704853

>>57704805
How can you type while getting dicked?

>> No.57705771
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Volatility will continue as we regain strength and spike to 1,000,000$ =1 monero.

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>>57705771

I couldn't agree more! Let's do this! Victory will be ours!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt86LvuH_Z8

>> No.57707148

If you're not holding btc you will regret it very soon.

>> No.57707169

>>57707148
https://youtu.be/In4NUeK2tzg

>> No.57707558

>>57679979
>what's up with these asshats from the future? was there some fork?
I believe it's some sort of attack

>> No.57707738
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57707738

WE ARE UNDER ATTACK

>> No.57707903

>>57707738

I checked, it's not an attack, it's only his PC. It's business as usual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YzJTleWMjQ

>> No.57708496

>>57707738
always has been

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>>57667596
>Virtual cards are cool but I can't buy eggs with them.
Seconding this. We need monero cards to buy eggs with when the bug-only CBDCs drop.

>> No.57709460

>>57699954
whats an esim seller and is it like a burner phone?

>> No.57710282
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>>57708681
I don't think there is anything like that, sadly. The closest it gets is with a kycuck CEX physical crypto card that is filled up with freshly exchanged non-monero shitcoins. I currently use the panda card. Not sure this is better than cash though. It certainly normalizes traceable digital transactions, but on the other hand I prefer being short fiat.

>> No.57710305
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>actually, ASIC resistance empowers large corporations that are able to create ASICS for your algorithm
https://youtu.be/SANFAxu9mqg?si=TaClIAl92aq98nlq

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>> No.57710582

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57710633
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57710633

/xmr/ is so comfy bros, how do we do it?

>> No.57711524
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57711524

Monerochan has flipped BTC in sales on Silent Link.

>> No.57711584

>>57667788
Holders survived and dip buyers thrived

>> No.57712124

>>57711524
Elaborate

>> No.57712126

I want to go back doing street sales, what should i sell, i want to give pamphlets or whatever or just talk to people, thr last time i tried i was selling something that was really shitty like funeral services, whats a better product

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57712201

>>57712126
Monero-chan and other fumos.

>> No.57712396

>>57710305
He said anything can be ASICed. OK, fine, true. But he also said it can be arbitrarily expensive to do so. But why invest in ASICing RandomX if Monero can change to another algo again if that's detected? Or have Monero devs said that RandomX is the last attempt and won't bother doing another one if it's ASICed?

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>>57712396
In his view Monero is relevant only if the number goes up very high to where companies would want to constantly create ASICS for it, and then ASIC resistance would be irrelevant since they'll just throw money at it for some reason even though the Monero community/devs would fight it. There are weird assumptions in his logic.
He doesn't even address RandomX in that video iirc. There's also RandomX v2 in development which would require a hard fork, so it's not the last one for sure and there's no reason for it to be if something better is found in the future.
Also watch the "Satoshi's secret weapon" video where he twists Satoshi's preparations to defend the network with GPUs into an acceptance of ASICS, kek. There was no good way to resists ASICS yet so Satoshi surely wanted massive Chinese ASIC farms, "one cpu one vote" notwithstanding. Also, no developed ring signature/zk tech yet so transparency must be a desirable feature for all eternity.

>> No.57712943

>>57712124
>anonymous sim card provider
>only takes btc, ln, and xmr
>xmr is 51% of their revenue

>> No.57712981

>>57712943
does this work in america? i thiought anonymous sims were impossible in the USA when they updated the networks

>> No.57713024

question, can monero have defi?
shitcoins, amm's and stuff like eth?

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57713038

>>57710305

RandomX requires ALL the functionality of a modern general-purpose CPU, so anybody trying to produce a RandomX ASIC is essentially trying to produce a modern general-purpose CPU, which puts them into direct competition with AMD, ARM and Intel. And it turns out bringing high performance CPUs to market is so insanely complex and expensive that basically nobody else even dares to try, the odds of failure are *very* high.

And even if you could somehow, against all the odds, produce mining hardware that was competitive you'd still struggle to find customers due to the near-100% certainty that RandomX would quickly be tweaked just enough to cripple your shiny new ASIC. Rinse & repeat.

TL;DR: trying to produce a viable RandomX ASIC = shoveling money into a furnace.

>> No.57713054

>>57713024
no because monero has no competent or dedicated developer team its just stoner trannies who come and go from the project as they please never innovating never maintaining just randomly adding updates here and there that make no real difference ever 7 months or so

>> No.57713076

>>57712981
>does this work in america?
It says so on the web site. Never used it.
>i thiought anonymous sims were impossible in the USA when they updated the networks
Infowars is for entertainment only.

>> No.57713109

>>57713054
I'd call you a glowie but it's also very likely that you are simply retarded, so either way you don't glow.

>> No.57713156

>>57713054
if so it's a shame
i did get almost 100xmr at $107
got a feather wallet, researched and theres lots of material here in the threads
it's just sitting there, I know I can buy stuff but it's weird kek

>> No.57713444

>>57713038
Why is the address blurred out?

>> No.57714277

>>57713444
The whole poster is probably fake but beyond that it's never a good idea to paste an address/QR code onto an image like that because it's incredibly easy for scammers to photoshop their own monero address on it and post it elsewhere. For donations it's best to post the address somewhere it can't be tampered with, like your own hosted website/domain or in a twitter bio.

>> No.57714619
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>>57714277
>The whole poster is probably fake

Its legit.

https://www.memri.org/cjlab/islamic-state-isis-posters-solicit-monero-cryptocurrency-donations-fund-jihad

>> No.57715137

>>57714619
So what's the address?

>> No.57715318

No way this shit survives now that ISIS is using it. The CIA will take out the devs and that will be that.

>> No.57715880
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>>57715318
>He doesn't know

>> No.57716160

My house party when $1000/XMR:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy5Gnv1QM68

>> No.57716165

>>57716160

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK-ymA_4mVc

>> No.57716332

>>57715318
The CIA has been funding terrorist attacks all over the world for decades now. Monero is just their new favorite way to do so now.

>> No.57716406

>>57715318
Why do you think the Tor devs are still walking and anyone who tries to make an open source paper printer has a heart attack?

>> No.57717016
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57717016

Visiting /XMR/ again just to contribute another wonderful Monero-chan art.

Still holding my xmr. I'll be back to contribute another one.

>> No.57717025

>>57717016
Extremely comfy Monerochan.

>> No.57717050
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>>57717016
So based and comfy, anon.

>> No.57717056

>>57716406
Are Tor devs CIA assets?

>> No.57717149
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>>57717016

Woops, sorry about that. There are two ver: Mouth closed and open.

This is the mouth closed

>> No.57717157
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>>57717016

This is the mouth open.

Thanks for the warm responses again anons.

I hope you'll like again the next one.

>> No.57717352

>>57717056
Tor was literally developed by the US navy. Draw your own conclusions.

>> No.57717418

>>57716160
>>57716165
disgusting whores, put your clothes on or get out of my damn house

>> No.57718091
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>>57712201
>Monerochan fumo
There are only 10 left :3

>> No.57718121

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57718242

>>57717016
I thought monero wasn't for holding?

>> No.57718360
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57718360

moneromarket.io

>> No.57718443
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57718443

moneromarket.io
>2 sold, 16 left

>> No.57718564

>>57718091
Should I FOMO into FUMO?

>> No.57718581
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>>57718443
Have you started shipping internationally yet?

>> No.57718640

>>57718581
I'll have to edit the listing to add a shipping price for international but yeah.

>> No.57718671

>>57717157
>>57717149
>>57717016
Cute! So much better than ai slop.

>> No.57718678
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>>57718581
>>57718640
OK added. Domestic shipping is still free by default.

>> No.57718744
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>>57718678
Well, I wish you luck. If no one bites, sorry to have wasted your time.

>> No.57718862
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>>57718678
>>57718744
Fuck it, I actually boughted a bag.

>> No.57718959
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57718959

>https://youtu.be/w5rtd3md11g?si=G4L2KKHX4rHkq18Y
>https://youtu.be/4IT0sLfFfGg?si=kvUleE4PCbuYIk-i
Anyone know the lore behind this? Why did a (((chainalysis))) company talk with a Monero dev when it's all basically a scam and they didn't develop anything new, kek. It's kind of hilarious to watch.

>> No.57719029
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>>57718862
I saw, thank you. Post offices are closed here on Sunday so I'll get that out to you tomorrow!

>> No.57719037
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>>57718862
>>57719029
Based circular-economy chads.

>> No.57719072
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>>57718959
>Anyone know the lore behind this? Why did a (((chainalysis))) company talk with a Monero dev when it's all basically a scam and they didn't develop anything new, kek. It's kind of hilarious to watch.

Publicity stunt to drive up the stock price before the MasterCard acquisition.

https://www.mastercard.com/news/press/2021/september/mastercard-acquires-ciphertrace-to-enhance-crypto-capabilities/

>> No.57719078

>>57718443
Haven't seen that website till now. I was sketched out by the gold and silver. I guess if you get fake shit you just dispute it and get the money back from escrow. Monero is still a great crypto to actually use as currency despite the drop after delistings. I could see sites like ebay being replaced by stuff like this. Too bad the web3 Ethereum fags set us back so many years on this front

>> No.57719082
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>>57719072
Kek, so they essentially scammed the glowies and MasterCard.

>> No.57719086

>>57718959
Nice tracking parameters

>> No.57719094

>>57718443
is that real coffee or something else?
because I quit coffee this year

>> No.57719107

>>57719094
>I quit coffee this year
Anonymous and private tea on moneromarket when?

>> No.57719109
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57719109

So is advertising here OK? Because I also got some cool wares to sell. Exlusive deal for my /xmr/chad bros: Buy three, you get one for free.

>> No.57719117

>>57713054
Why would monero want all that garbage and how would that perform with the monero algorithm when it already performs like shit on every popular chain implementation

>> No.57719291
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57719291

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6JRU6Gs1q8

>> No.57719381

>>57719094
Real coffee with lion's mane mushroom.

>>57719107
I can sell teas too if there's demand.

>> No.57719421

>>57713024
Allowing complex smart contracts makes privacy extremely difficult because not all transactions are the same size or have the same number of parties. There are DEXes that support Monero and ETH<=>XMR atomic swaps are in the works but privacy and smart contract performance are basically contradictory.

>> No.57719573
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>>57719381
What's the taste like?

>> No.57719873

>>57718091
Excellent Im buying another one!

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>>57719573
>What's the taste like?

>> No.57719944
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>>57719896
It's not that kind if mushroom anon.

>> No.57719960

>>57719573
Nothing underneath cocoa or coffee

>>57719944
Surprised to see them here at all. Genuinely great stuff, and all over moneromarket too

>> No.57720060
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itt

>> No.57720201

>>57719109
How much?

>> No.57720236
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>>57720201
Right now $22/coin, or $66/4 coins (limited offer), plus $10 tip.

>> No.57720459

>>57720236
>$22
It's a price of one whole troy OZ of silver, you fucking nazi degenerate.

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>>57720459
I wish those prices were a ripoff. It's not my fault they're pricey. I'm pretty much giving them away at cost with the deal.

>> No.57720639
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>>57719573
It just tastes like coffee.

>>57672852
tickrs gets you a full TUI in a terminal.

>> No.57720850
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>>57720060
buy my beans

>> No.57720947

>>57673507
>historically unprecedented fiat money printing and debasement of the currency
>xmr stays stagnant at best and dumps at worst
>this is somehow a good thing
I'm sorry but this is just pathetic coping at this point. It's sad Monero devs didn't implement Number Go Up technology into this coin. BTC has no top because fiat has no bottom. When bitcoin goes up it's because fiat money in relation to it is being debased and is worth less. Same for real estate. Same for S&P stocks. The fact that Monero is stalling this hard during this unprecedented debasement of fiat makes you question it's reason of existence. Just use cash at that point, gets debased the same way and it's even more anonymous.
>DUDE JUST LET CENTRAL BANKER JEWS DILUTE FIAT AND BY EXTENSION MONERO LMAO
>Why do you want to protect yourself against the debasement of your wealth are you a moonfaggot?
Some of you niggers are genuinely mid-bell curve thinking you're on the right end. That being said I bought the dip. But you're stupid if you hold your net worth in this coin.

>> No.57721096
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>>57720850
But I already did buy them...

>> No.57721182
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>>57720459
I actually bumped the price slightly because according to my calculations I'd be taking a loss otherwise (with the deal).

>> No.57721272

>>57714619
that's the first crypto meme in a long time that makes me laugh

>> No.57721320

>>57710305
I hate this dumb fart sniffer so much.
>>57712508
>weird assumptions in his logic
of course those are. he's a dumb and sniffs his farts after all.

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>>57666726
>current XMR price---> $126.57

Anti-moonfags seething rn on god. XMR will moon and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

>> No.57721385
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57721385

HOW MANY FUMO FUMOS LEFT

>> No.57721599

>>57720850
I would if there wasn't an ocean in between. Are you reselling them or what's the deal w them

>> No.57721617

>>57720947
How does that hold up when the f' of the monero supply goes down over time (although not stopping like btc) while it's been skyrocketing with fiat. A slight inflation rate isn't a problem by design, and an arithmetically fixed one isn't a bad deal

>> No.57721620
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>>57720947
>BTC has no top because fiat has no bottom. When bitcoin goes up it's because fiat money in relation to it is being debased and is worth less.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.57721649
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57721649

>>57721617

Don't make the mistake of taking these laser-eyed retards seriously. MUH PRICE ACTION suddenly stops meaning much once you realize just how fake and gay everything in this clown market is.

>> No.57721726

>>57720947
>When bitcoin goes up it's because fiat money in relation to it is being debased and is worth less.
kek, please tell me you don't actually believe inflation drove bitcoin to its current price.
>real estate
>stocks
neither real estate nor stocks are currencies.
>bitcoin
bitcoin is a failed currency, existing in a market that values doge and shib at a combined $18 billion - i.e., irrationality abounds and treating crypto as an """investment""" will only result in poverty and seethe.
>muh preservation of wealth
you don't hoard a functional currency to maintain or expand wealth. sell your monero and put the proceeds in an index fund, faggot.

>> No.57721952
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57721952

>>57720639
Domo

>> No.57721989

>>57721620
>29 posts by this ID
Tether midwits are no different to buttcoiners, genetic failures, trivially filtered from the billions in free money being handed out to everyone that didn't fall for it.

>> No.57722000

>>57721989
That guy also posted 15 posts worth of OP material. Make fun of my 14 instead

>> No.57722031

>>57721620
>>57721649

>recycling past cycle fud

>> No.57722114
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>> No.57722126

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57722157
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>>57721989
>free money being handed out to everyone

hahaha if you're stupid enough to actually believe this you deserve to get rekt.

Now do go on, I find you wetbrains endlessly entertaining. Tell me more about how and why BTC is going parabolic this cycle!

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>>57722031
>>recycling past cycle fud

Yes.

>> No.57722186
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>>57721599
I turned on international shipping today! Yes I'm reselling them. I buy them from the roaster in Seattle.

>>57721096
sorry, friendly fire

>> No.57722194
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57722194

calm down this is a comfy neighborhood.

>> No.57722469

>>57718360
>moneromarket.io
how does this site work? is there an escrow service? are you just supposed to trust the random dude selling 1oz gold bars from france to deliver?

>> No.57722557

>>57721324
You will never be in profit. You are not a real invester. Morono only goes down.

>> No.57722561
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>>57722469
>is there an escrow service?

Of course.

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57722590

>>57722557
>Morono only goes down.

Yes, coins that are actually useful to an ever-growing number of real-world consumers can only go down while coins that are actually useful to an ever-diminishing/non-existant number of real-world consumers can only go up.

>> No.57722613
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>>57722469
Yes, there's an escrow service. The seller gets paid when the buyer receives the goods and releases payment. I've used it from both sides and it works well.

>> No.57722692

>>57722613
Isn't that a lot of risk for the seller?

>> No.57722744

>>57722692
In principle yeah but it turns out most people aren't dicks.

>> No.57722775

>>57722744
Most people who are early adopters of arcane technology*. The model would definitely not work once the floodgates are open to the scum that plagues fiat marketplaces.

>> No.57722782

but when are we getting rich?

>> No.57722790

>>57722782
You got the wrong door, this one's for people who already have wealth or the means to acquire it. The lottery is right across the hallway.

>> No.57722807

>>57666726

https://twitter.com/ETH/status/1760809776546496713

>> No.57722812

>>57722775
BTCPayServer (for running your own site, not what MoneroMarket uses, yes it supports XMR) has pay up front options more like traditional fiat ecommerce.

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>>57722775
>The model would definitely not work once the floodgates are open to the scum that plagues fiat marketplaces.

The entire darknet economy runs on escrow. Works fine for the most part because most buyers are repeat buyers who keep coming back for more and thus value a dependable supplier. This goes for both drugs and bullion.

>> No.57722885

>>57722590
>words words words words.

Next time try posting some booba or vagene. Maybe then, I would be compelled to listen to your midwittery. Just a friendly tip.

>> No.57722896

>>57722863
Which continues the theme of being very eclectic. Imagine a deluge of new pajeet accounts flooding every seller. I too enjoy when good things are good but giving the buyer that much more power doesn't scale indefinitely.
Then again I have zero experience and mostly want to tickle some out. If it works for now it works for now and I wont complain.
As >>57722812 points out there are already different models anyway, and fiat is kindly beta testing plenty anyway.

>> No.57722955

>>57722613
whats stopping the buyer from being the scammer then? and lying about receiving a fake gold bar?

>> No.57722962

>>57722955
Not wanting sellers to tell them to fuck off and press the "cancel transaction" button.

>> No.57722968

>>57668462
This. I hate to say it. I bet on privacy but realized nobody gives a shit about privacy. I lost.

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>>57722885
>I would be compelled to listen to your midwittery.

lol you're the one that insists on coming here. Maybe take the hint that nobody is buying your delusional horseshit and fuck off back to your luxury yacht while we all continue having fun staying poor.

>> No.57723041

>>57722977
Its my board. I come and go as I please. The only time I insist on coming is when I am with your woman.

>> No.57723046
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>>57722896
>. Imagine a deluge of new pajeet accounts flooding every seller. I too enjoy when good things are good but giving the buyer that much more power doesn't scale indefinitely.
>Then again I have zero experience and mostly want to tickle some out. If it works for now it works for now and I wont complain.

You've failed to take feedback into account. An honest seller with an established track record for timely delivery will enjoy more credibility than a freshly-created buyer account with minimal or zero feedback, so they're likely to win any such disputes while jeets will lose them.

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57723059

>>57722469
>>57722692
if their on-board escrow is too risky for you, you can use a cli multi-cig wallet if you know how.
Speaking of, I'm going to start a blacksmithing business on monermarket. Will start will selling small things, but will ramp up to bigger things once the business gets going. I go under the same username as pic related on Kuno

>> No.57723482

NEW THREAD: >>57723477
>NEW THREAD: >>57723477
NEW THREAD: >>57723477
>NEW THREAD: >>57723477
NEW THREAD: >>57723477
>NEW THREAD: >>57723477

>> No.57724062

>>57722962
thanks didnt know sellers had an option to cancel too. can i sign up to sell stuff then anonymously or do you have to register with the site? i want to sell my sidehustle thrift store antiques collectibles type stuff there so i can avoid paying illegal uonconstituitonal sales and income taxes

>> No.57725664

>>57722692
It's the same if you sell on ebay. Buyers can initiate a chargeback and then good luck fighting it.

>> No.57726185

>>57724062
You can cancel orders but if you already shipped you're out of luck because you don't get the money. Better to just deal with the dispute process in that case. Yes, you need to register, but it's just with an email address, no kyc. I highly recommend going for it. Monero market is very rewarding. To me at least.